Dateline Port Charles: The Honeymoon Life of Sonny and Nina

Budding gayling Danny has adorable hair.

Thanks for the new thread, OP.

Did Frank run out of money and couldn't afford a Rocco for Halloween?

There were certainly plenty of kids running around.

Some of those kids I've never seen before.

And we've already seen Rocco before. albeit only a few times back in the summer.

Eden's mother died.

Poor Eden. This show is really cursed lately.

I hate the younger cast!

Y&R doesn't have anyone under 20 in its cast these days.

GH has so many youngsters, they need to open a on-set day care center.

Between the two shows, its from one extreme to another

Charlotte's death could've shifted the dynamics of a number of relationships on the show, and been fodder for a lot of story (and performances). I guess Disney won't let them kill a kid.

If they're going to kill off Charlotte. Lulu really needs to be on the canvas.

R4 Very unfortunate. Even though some of us rag on Eden that's terrible. R.I.P. to her mother, sorry that happened.

R5 I'm trying not to think that, however it just seems like tragedy after tragedy for their cast. Evan Ellingson who guest-starred on GH as a teen in early 2000's) died on November 5th of a possible drug overdose (which was how his brother Austin died years ago)

R8, haven’t plenty of child characters died over the years? It just seems like Charlotte is more valuable to the show alive than dead.

Finola gave an interview where she expressed how disheartening it was to lose Anna's home. Although she was impressed with how they did it (she said it was taped late on a Friday night) she said that she had become accustomed to Anna having her own home and that she appreciated having her own set. While watching it burn, a production worker commented to her how he shared her sentiments about losing the set. Finola requested to keep a Captain Jack photograph that they were planning to burn as well; she placed it in her dressing room.

Maurice and Joshua did a live together where Joshua asked Maurice who did he prefer out of Sonny & Brenda vs. Sonny and Carly. Maurice responded, "That's a loaded question, I'll have to tell you once we're off of here." Joshua admitted that Sonny & Brenda were his favorite; Vanessa Marcil joined their live, commenting that she preferred Sonny & Carly. Vanessa has been pretty vocal lately about "never" wanting to return to GH and that they should just go ahead and recast Brenda.

Jon Lindstrom is showing a lot of love and support for John J. York on twitter. They must be very close. I hope all goes well for John, he found a match and sounds like he's having the procedure this week.

John is alive but still another sad situation going on at GH.

Attention Whore Maurice decided to repackage his Tyler Christopher interview. And of course Mo shares how it affects HIM. Scumbag.

R8 R9 Frank loves Scarlett Fernandez so much that it's interesting he even signed off on her tormenting Anna and being shot. He's not going to get rid of her; he only recasted because she didn't want to be vaccinated, so she returned when Disney lifted their mandate.

This has MOs fingerprints all over the writers room. SONNY comes to Annas rescue? Seriously? I have said for a year that it was just a matter of time until Sonny screws Anna and here we are. Look out Laura. You're next.

Someone mentioned Katherine Bell in the previous thread, in reference to Cody Bell, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't he raised by the Bell's, Katherine's family?

Katherine, who originally came to town under the name Katherine Crawford, was born Katie Bell; her mother was the cook for Dominique's family, the wealthy Stanton's. Katherine was a con-artist who was trying to bilk Scott out of Dominique's fortune; she also revealed that she was Dominique's half-sister (Dominique's father cheated on her mother with the cook, Ms. Bell) so Cody is more like his Aunt Katherine than mommy Dominique/daddy Mac.

Also on Port Charles, they gave her another half-sister, Danielle Ashley (Renee Allman) via her father, Avery Stanton, along with their evil uncle Rex Stanton (portrayed by Wayne Northrop). Danielle was originally involved with hot doctor Jake Marshak (Rib Hillis)

R14 They are extremely close, with a friendship spanning over 30 years now.

Here's some tidbits from fans at an event hosted by Becky Herbst, Lisa LoCicero and Maura West if any of you are interested:

Becky admitted that the big Elizabeth anniversary storyline went off in a completely different direction than it was supposed to, confirming suspicions that the Finn/Reiko angle was a last minute decision.

Becky also said that Hudson has to get his haircut everytime he comes on set, which he despises, because he's prefer to grow it out.

Maura was initially offered the role of a recast Kate Howard, which she turned down (apparently, they were going to fire Kelly Sullivan and hand the role over to Maura) while also admitting that Ava was only scheduled to be a 5-episode role. Lisa reiterated how she was initially cast as Kate before the role was originally given to Megan Ward. Becky originally auditioned for Sarah Webber (who was initially named Nia Webber)

Becky said that she would prefer Greg Vaughan back as Lucky.

Lisa and Maura both stated how some of their male co-stars are better kissers than others, while some have different oral hygiene than others (Becky didn't touch that one). Maura said that Richard Burgi (Paul Hornsby) would playfully eat onions before having kissing scenes. Maura also admitted that she would purposely flirt with Wil de Vry in their Ava/Julian scenes together.

Maura adores both Trina actresses. Lisa loves the Ned/Eddie storyline. Lisa also shared how she loved the Johnny/Olivia love story, although she loves Ned/Olivia too. She has some upcoming scenes that were uncomfortable to film, causing her lose to two toenails in the process.

Becky stated how sometimes you can get emotional in supporting scenes that you have to reel it in and realize that it isn't about you, it's their moment; Maura mentioned how not everyone would do that 😆

R17 Supposedly, the producers/temp writers were planning to have Anna turn to Sonny sexually once she found out about Valentin's secrecy, in regards to Charlotte. Sonny was supposed to find out about Nina's role in the SEC tip, leading the two of them to commiserate by sleeping together. Seems the writer's striking being resolved might have changed that, for if they were to go that angle, they would no longer be at the helm to write the fallout, since the original writers material is slated to began airing soon

YES to Greg back as Lucky. Would love some Sam and Lucky!!!

Is Bobbie going to die in Amsterdam?

[quote]Is Bobbie going to die in Amsterdam?[/quote]

I guess it would make sense for one of the vets like Jane who worked with the JZ the longest to deliver the news. Or Genie or Kin. I wonder if they will delay the storyline now that Eden's mother has died.

Steve and Bradford have a new podcast, Daily Drama.

LW's real laugh is the same as her Carly laugh and so fake and annoying sounding.

Steve hasn't invited Mo to be on his podcast because he himself is dodging being on State of Mind. I didn't realize SB had never been on Mo's show.

^LW says "Kelly Thiebaud said WHAT HAPPENED?" when they broke up Jason/Britt for Jason/Carly. Yeah, I bet she did.

We all said that! Britt and Jason really worked! Jarly didn’t work like that anymore for me. Had it been SJB or TB Carly? Yes!!!

Ned’s underwater scenes certainly weren’t as titillating as Christopher Atkins in The Blue Lagoon.

Maybe Anna can get pregnant by Sonny's magic penis.

His sperm can revitalize her dried up uterus and, cause new eggs to be created so she can carry another child.

Would be great if Anna and Nina both ended up pregnant by Sonny at the same time.

According to this video, Tyler who died on 10/31 had a fan event at the beginning of October where he told fans he was six weeks sober at that point. He also said at the event he hadn't seen his kids in eight months and had plans to see them on 10/15. It is unclear if he did get to see his kids on 10/15. It's all so sad.

Anna wouldn’t fall for Sonny. It’s a strange pairing but it’s fresh and at least entertaining. The actors work well together!

Horrible episode today. The show has ruined its two most popular couples, Sprina and Vanna.

I dunno. First time I’ve ever been interested in Anna and Valentin today.

I loved Anna and Valentin’s scenes today.

Spencer will never be successful in any relationship because he’s such a narcissist. I think his “not without my baby” stance is so ridiculous and yet so him.

Charlotte's a fickle little missy, isn't she? Anna (and Jason) rescued her from Cassandra, and THIS is how Charlotte repays her?

Spencer is too much of an inherent asshole to really be a romantic lead. He needs to lean in to his nature and be Port Charles’s greatest supervillain. Surely he has $25 million stashed away in a jockstrap to buy Wyndemere.

Speaking of which, it’s gotta be Nikolas behind the LLC that’s making an offer on Wyndemere, right?

I figured it was Nikolas or maybe Cyrus.

Rumors have Steve Burton returning pretty soon, although it's being kept under wraps to "surprise" the audience, forming a big Jason/Carly/Drew triangle. Since the mandate that Disney issued on the vaccine was lifted in May, he's supposedly wanted to return, once he wrapped up at DOOL.

Hopefully Frank will not give in and hopefully Mo won't interfere again.

Oh goody. Just what we need. Jason back and inserted into every storyline and every scene so he can meet his episode guarantees. Can't stand him and his face has aged like milk. Milk left out in the hot August sun.

Sorry Disney dropped their mandate policy last November, not May at R40

R41 😆 we'll see

R42 You don't mince words 😁

Michael's ass is on full display (well in nice slacks without him wearing a jacket covering it) in today's episode.

Have you guys enjoyed what was written under scabs/producers or are you anticipating CVE/DOC's returning material?

Nathan Varni tweeted that something big is happening this Friday, apparently something that "no one will see coming."

I think the scabs have done very well. But Frank has also been tightly controlling the story. I don't think they've veered too far from the Chris and Dan's vision for the show.

I like the scabs better.

What won't we see coming? Cyrus kills Austin? Austin kills Cyrus? Austin and Cyrus kill each other? I have no problem with any of these scenarios. RoHo the cat has exhausted his nine lives on this show and I'm over Reverend Cyrus. They can both go.

I would like for the surprise to be Victor is alive and well and back from the dead. Maybe it was his twin that was killed?

R48 True except Frank seemed to approve a lot of their ideas. Also since they're producers that he has known for years instead of incoming writers, it made the transition somewhat easier for everyone involved. Frank is actually the main head writer regardless of who's writing under him 😁 so Chris and Dan's stories were still under his approval. Not everything that's happened since July 25th were what Chris, Dan and Korte wanted- the producers have altered some things, with Frank's permission of course.

R49 A lot of viewers have stated they prefer the scabs as well, citing storyline movement as one key detail that they felt the original writers have problems with. Some are speculating that Jason or Lorenzo will be the surprise.

As for Austin, if they get rid of him, it's more than likely that Roger will return as another character, unless he decides to quit the show altogether. Victor, on the other hand, probably isn't even actually gone. The Cassadine's always return lol

You know, I absolutely love Nina’s styling. Her clothes, hair, and makeup are all just perfect consistently.

Don't recall where I read it but didn't talks fall through with Ted King?

Is it too soon for Jason? When did SB wrap up DOOL? I'd be happy to never see him again.

Another wish list return: Kelly Thiebaud as Britt's twin since twins runs in the family (Nina and her devil twins Nelle and Snarly suck up Willow). But again, wishful thinking, KT is rightfully pissed off at FV and will probably end up on of the other soaps.

R53 Correct they did fall through initially, supposedly over compensation, then they were rumored to be talking again.

Since Days films at least six months ahead, he could have wrapped Days already while recently secretly filming at GH.

R52 Did you feel the same about Michelle's Nina? When she was there, Nina's wardrobe was more expensive than any of the other characters.

R55, I’ve only been watching since last year so I’ve got nothing to compare to, except some of her frumpy costars.

Another rumor is that Robin Christopher is possibly returning as Skye. Some fans think that Blaze is her daughter, Lila Rae.

R56 😆 😆 ok understood. Well there's a strict wardrobe budget at GH, a lot of their clothes are actually from TJ Maxx, among other stores similar to those, so that's probably why frumpy seems to be the norm.

Wally Kurth also spoiled that there's a "special guest" this Christmas.

Laura looks more like a therapist than a mayor, bless her heart.

Wally & Lisa Lo Cicero mentioned a "special guest" this Christmas in an interview, some think it's probably just Wally & Rena's daughter.

R60 🤣 🤣

More fan speculation has Jason being held hostage by Lorenzo and Cyrus as Austin's father, although that's been brewing for awhile.

r57

Isn't Blaze the name that Luke called Skye?

R64 I believe it was

Enough with the resurrecting old characters—they need to focus on telling compelling stories with the ones they have.

Presumably when Jane Elliot returns from her vacation, Tracey will return to Port Charles and announce Bobbie has died.

I hope Skye and Lilia Rae are back. Skye with Luke was my favorite Luke pairing.

Today marks the 42nd wedding anniversary of Luke & Laura, a two-day event (November 16th-17th) that brought in 30 million viewers, the highest ratings ever for a daytime serial. Somewhere, TG is ignoring any references to this 😁 😁

Steve and Bradford'a podcast had Kate Mansi as a guest. She spoiled that it's full steam ahead on Kristina and Blaze (Kraze) along with her being Molly and TJ's new surrogate (which of course was the original plan all along). Kate also praised Frank for being accommodating, which Steve sort of brushed off; either he's playing off his return (he's claiming that he's not done at DOOL) or talks between him and ABC fell through.

Was Dex wearing a wig today? Also, Maura West was on fire. Love that gal.

Ingo is crying on social media about how being fired from GH has caused him depression, weight gain and his children having to be torn from all that they loved and move to Florida. Obviously, he's prepping the appeal of his case against ABC which he lost and laying the groundwork on social media.

I watched Kate Mansi on Steve and Bradford's rebranded podcast. Steve seemed kind of bored with her, lol. She was rather long winded about her childhood with tons of minutiae. Is Frank going to scold her for the spoilers or is she a new protected favorite of his?

[quote] Ingo is crying on social media

You move to a shithole like Florida and, yeah, your kids might hate you.

And if he'd gotten vaxxed, he'd probably blame the depression and weight gain on that.

R71 Maura definitely brought it, as usual when she's given the right material. She was incredible on ATWT and still is to this day.

R73 Lol Kate's one of Frank's protected favorites, so she most likely won't have to deal with any reprimands from him, combined with the fact that she's still fairly new there. She might not exactly be aware of his stance on spoilers; Steve kept saying "Spoiler Alert, Spoiler Alert" iirc. Yes he did seem fairly bored lol Bradford was more engaged than Steve.

Boo hoo for Ingo.

Not understanding how refusing to get the vax means Ingo and family had to move to Florida. Why move?

Ingo had been working as a lifeguard for LA County. Couldn't he get other work somewhere in Southern California. Why was he forced to move to Florida? So, he would be protected by Ron DeSantis?

Who shot Austin?!?!

And who will Roger Howarth return as next? Temp Spencer?

Oh, that was Austin? I thought I was shooting Anna. My bad!

Well, this interstitial bumper billboard thing on Hulu changed photos from roger howarth to Laura wright yesterday…

Note they did not change the image when he changed fro Franco to Austin…

He may be gone for real.

Drew/Mathison next, please.

R45 I noticed that. White boy got a NOICE ass.

supposedly it's confirmed on the twit that RH is out but I can't find it

What a waste of a great actor! Why couldn’t they take the time and create a character who had lasting power or even left an impact on the canvas? Love Roger sorry to see this come to an end possibly for real this time…

I caught the video on X of RoHo talking in his car but I can't find it again now. It's unusual as he never had a social media presence until very recently. He goes on about his gratitude for the Liz and Franco story and how sweet and well thought out it was and how important it is to be grateful for the good things in life. He doesn't touch upon current situation at all, just gratitude and focusing on gratitude. I guess that says it all.

I want Todd to return!!

Long Lost Q has Roger's video on twitter.

Roger may be out but that doesn't mean he's gone for good.

In 2015, we said sayonara to Dr. Silas Clay, played by Micheal Easton.

Less than a year later, we were saying hello to Dr. Hamilton Finn, played by Michael Easton.

I want a real wild card to be the shooter, like Aunt Stella.

I can't believe I'm saying this because JK is a good actor but I'm over Cyrus and he can go now too.

[quote]I'm over Cyrus and he can go now too.

So far, Cyrus hasn't really done anything. He's making veiled threats to Austin and Mason and Trina; trying to be nice to his sister Laura.

Being a menace only goes so far. He needs to do something to show he's a bad ass and a real threat to Sonny's empire and establish there's going to be a power struggle in Port Charles.

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I don't understand how these small fan events make money. Just saw X photos of JPS and FH's fan event this weekend at Uncle Vinnie's on the East Coast. Looks like there is maybe 12 fans there tops. How much did these people pay for tickets? $100? That's only $1,200. How does that cover the celebrity's fee, air fare, etc? Am I underestimating how much the fans are paying for tickets? Are they paying $500? Still doesn't seem like enough to cover costs. All the fans look like average blue collar folks.

Same thing last week. Photos of Maura and Lisa Lo Cicero's dinner with fans. Maybe a dozen fans at the dinner. How is this feasible? Or are there more fans in attendance who are camera shy not being shown?

R92, these things usually draw around 100 people. You’re not seeing all of the attendees in the shots.

RH should have stayed as Todd. If not Todd then they should have crafted a long running connected to the canvas character. Wish they used RH’s ability to play a great complex villian. Like a scheming Q or an evil Cassadine. Franco with those highlights made no sense and Austin was never a realized character.

ME should have been John Mcbain. Hated Silas and could take or leave Finn. He works so well as a villain. Caleb. Wish he had been Valentine Cassadine or a darker character. The heroic doctor trope doesn’t suit him.

[quote]Was Dex wearing a wig today?

I wondered the same thing. Hair certainly looked puffier than the last time we saw Dex.

Could have been a wig. Or it could have just been Evan let his hair grow out some and these were the first scenes filmed after a break.

Not sure which style I like better.

Apparently, Roger told his fans privately in a Zoom call that he didn't think he would re-sign his contract when it became up this year. You guys are right about his sudden social media presence, making statements about storylines he enjoyed, etc. Rumors are that he decided to walk because he was never invested in Austin, which was a last minute decision since ABC decided against bringing Todd back, which was what Frank and the writers were initially planning to do.

Allegedly (if Austin's really gone, which he seems to be) Nathan Varni (who originally leaked that there would be a "big surprise") has been working out a way to get Todd back on GH, as a way to keep Roger from completely walking away from the show. Pairing Austin with Ava was a last ditch effort to make Austin stick, for Nathan loves Ava and Roger, so having them together was primarily his idea. Roger has also told fans at an event that he "misses Ron Carlivati' and his writing," so DOOL would definitely jump on the chance to obtain him if they're unsuccessful in bringing back Todd.

How can they bring Todd back if ABC has a "no rapists" rule? Isn't that why Franco was killed off?

ME needs to go too. These guys are making big bucks for little return on investment.

R97 Correct, they did apply a "no rapists" rule, which facilitated Franco's exit and banned a return from Todd. However, Nathan Varni is apparently trying to figure out a way to sign off on Todd returning, combined with Disney in the process of selling off ABC for the right price, things are slightly different.

R97 Another thing that should be mentioned is that Nathan Varni wasn't in charge of GH when they originally wrote Franco off and tried to bring Todd back into the fold. Nathan was away from GH for the 2019-2020 and 2020-2021 seasons (Franco was killed off in March of 2021) returning in Autumn 2021, so he wasn't there when they were initially in negotiations with Disney to revive Todd.

Another key difference is Bob Iger wasn't the CEO of Disney when they got rid of Franco as well; he had stepped down in December 2020 and was replaced by Bob Chapek from 2020-2022, with Bob Iger resuming his position ironically on this day, November 20th, 2022 (which was also around the time Disney removed their vaccine mandate) after Bob Chapek was dismissed by Disney. With Bob Iger back at the helm along with Nathan Varni back as well, the chances of Todd returning are more likely, only if Roger wants to stay, of course.

*Nathan Varni returned to GH during the 2021-2022 season I should say, not necessarily at the start of Autumn, however during that season. Ironically, that's the same exact season that GH went off the rails, imo, which was also around the time they imposed the vaccine mandate/Steve Burton's exit (around November 2021)

Rebecca Budig keeps in touch with the little Violet actress.

What's the deal with Rebecca? Why the lack of follow up with her Hayden character? Is Rebecca too expensive for GH or what?

R101 Frank just isn't interested in bringing her back. Rebecca also keeps in touch with Michael Easton, he's like one of her good friends (so much so that there were rumors of them cheating on their spouses with each other, because they were really close at work).

There was a pay discrepancy where she was deemed "too expensive" around the time of her exit, however she has also stated that she's willing to return. Ironically, she also said that there wasn't really a conclusion to Hayden's story.

When she was on Mo's show, Rebecca said she was having postpartum issues and ME noticed she was struggling and offered her support. Of course, that could just be a cover story for an affair, lol.

Weren't there rumors of ME and KellyM. on that GH spin off? If so, ME gets around. I'm not a fan of his but I hadn't watched OLTL since the late 80s and I never watched the GH spin off.

R103 Right she has mentioned him helping her with her postpartum depression, however they were just a little too close to one another for others' comfort. 😁

There were rumors of Michael and Kelly messing around on Port Charles lol even though he had his wife while she had her then long-term boyfriend (who left her after practically 20 years of being together). Remember Frank has always had the biggest crush on him as well, "allegedly."

Cameron Mathison is going all in on the Great American Homophobia Channel. Can we get rid of Drew now?

R105 Would you rather trade Drew in for Jason?

I would prefer neither, R106.

Roger H. and Alicia Minshew (Kendall, AMC) enthusiastically congratulating Cameron on his deal with homophobic network...

Maybe he can help religiously persecuted, fat, depressed, Floridian Ingo get a job there.

Roger's goodbye.

Nice exit interview with Soap Opera Digest

Howarth’s exit is freeing up the budget to bring back Steve Burton. This show is seriously stuck.

Not a fan of Jason at this point and don't especially want to see him return.

That said, Jason's character has more of a purpose on the show that Austin Gatlin-Holt ever did.

Steve and Ingo were both let go when they refused to get vaccinated.

Rehiring Steve at this point would give greater credence to Ingo's lawsuit about the vax mandate.

Could end up costing ABC and Disney a lot of money to rehire Steve.

r113

Maybe Steve changed his stance?

R107 Others share your sentiment 😆 😆

R113 You think so, even though they lifted the mandate? If anything, I was thinking they could use Ingo's behavior on set, in particularly his comments that offended Cassandra James (Terry) which sort of ostracized him even more in the workplace.

R114 No he's still an anti-vaxxer. The Disney vaccine mandate was lifted last November when they were in the process of rehiring Bob Iger as CEO and firing Bob Chapek.

R109 R110 You guys don't think that he'll return as Todd? Pretty sure that's the only way to lure him back, instead of another new character from scratch.

R111 There's a rumor about that. There's another one that Frank fired him, which is in line with Frank firing actors around the holidays. However, Roger apparently told his fans on a Zoom call two years ago (right around the time Austin first popped onscreen) that he didn't think he'd re-sign when his contract was up. He's always loved working with Maura, so putting them together was a way to make Austin click. Although Maura loves working with him too, she apparently came to the realization that Ava/Austin weren't working (and so did Roger).

Ava/Nik fans are also enjoying this because they feel that their couple was sacrificed for Ava/Austin.

What is it going to take to get wooden cartoon actor Cameron fired?

R121 Steve coming back for Laura Wright 😁

Ingo's appeal has not been filed at this point, let alone approved. So its moot at this point.

But he seems to be angling that being fired left him depressed which caused him to gain weight and that the family had to move to Florida, presumably for cheaper living expenses. That will be the basis of his appeal.

Ingo's behavior on set has been fine. He's spouted all sorts of conservative and/or MAGA ideas on Twitter. He also went off on transgenders, insulting castmate Cassandra James in the process. That may have made things uncomfortable among his castmates.

[quote] Rehiring Steve at this point would give greater credence to Ingo's lawsuit about the vax mandate.

Ingo's lawsuit has already been argued in court with a decision rendered. He lost. It would simply be up to an appellate court to look at that case -- as already presented -- in order to find a reason to overturn the decision. New evidence isn't a factor.

Roger Howarth as Peter Blake?

R123 Well his on set behavior wasn't exactly "fine" however there have been worse cases, including that whole group he was in which included Maurice, Steve, Johnny Wactor and Marcus Coloma, so if he were to go down, then it wouldn't exactly be fair if they didn't to (one such incident consisted of them making fun of an actress, not Cassandra James though). I'm not saying ingo is a horrible person, I'm just saying that he's not exactly a saint either.

Laura Wright "allegedly" having Robert Palmer Watkins fired because he wouldn't have sex with her is still one of the most egregious cases of bad behavior on set, yet she still has her job to this day. If she were a man, known as "Laurence Wright," it probably would've came to light and "Carl Lee" would be portrayed by someone else entirely.

R125 Some have already suggested Wil de Vry for that role, yet Roger fits too. Roger has already admitted to his fans (at a fan event) that he misses Ron and his writing.

Actually R123 I'm assuming you're R124 as well, even though it is a moot point as you say, what do you think the chances are of him winning his appeal? He's definitely making it clear that ever since he was let go from GH, he's experiencing an extreme hardship. B&B even chose to bring back Winsor Harmon as Thorne, who granted is more recognizable in the part than Ingo, however Ingo was the most recent actor to portray him. Also Ingo was working as a lifeguard in LA, did he indicate why that's no longer the case?

Now I'm curious who IR, SB, MB, Wactor and Coloma were making fun of. So glad Wactor and Coloma got fired. MW tweeted a lovely goodbye to Roger. Don't recall her doing the same for creepy Level 7 Scientologist Coloma.

That fact that Kin is such good buddies with Coloma makes me dislike Kin. JPS and FH being besties with Stafford also gives me pause about them.

R128 I'm not R123.

R129 It was an unnamed actress in mentions of their behavior. I doubt it was Nancy, for they were more vocal about her. Maurice laughed once when Ingo lamented to him that he had to work with her; Ingo wasn't looking forward to it at all.

R130 Oh sorry 😁

Has MO come out yet to talk about RH leaving? Surely he must share with the world how this effects him...

Roger Howarth would make a decent recast of Nick Marone on BB.

Maxie and Liz are Kryptonite. Both losers and every guy they get paired with ends up on the chopping block. Finn is probably the next pink slip.

[quote] B&B even chose to bring back Winsor Harmon as Thorne, who granted is more recognizable in the part than Ingo, however Ingo was the most recent actor to portray him.

Ingo was on contract as Thorne for a year 2017-18 . However, B&B brought Winsor back for a day in 2022 for the 35th anniversary. Winsor and Jack Wagner both returned in a show featuring many of Brooke's lovers, including Ridge and Bill Spencer.

For the bored------->>LINK----> GH 30th anniversary. This was Pre-Sonny so GH still had a hopeful optimistic feel. Molly Shannon!! Cute Scott..Hot Jagger..Handsome Mac...A behind the scenes walk thru.

R136 Right, I've forgotten all about that B&B anniversary episode

Roger seems blindsided by Frank's decision in his exit interview, however since he was already debating whether or not to re-sign his contract for at least two years, Frank must've somehow caught wind of that and made the decision for him. I still wouldn't be surprised if this is all part of a plan to bring him back as Todd. If not, then definitely one of the other soaps will take him, if he's willing to go.

Roger has a new grandson who's in NY if I'm not mistaken; he used to commute back and forth from NY to LA for years until he finally got an apartment in LA. Being away from soaps for a moment can give him extra time to spend with his family (at one point, his son was estranged from him and even wanted to change his last name from his father's)

“Let’s not write anything good for that doctor guy because that Adam kid is way better”

JPS is expected to be out for at least six months, according to him, so he can film a project. NAC is still scheduled to leave for the Ryan Murphy project and isn't exactly slated to return, if the length of his time away coincides with the conclusion of his contract (rumors are Frank will recast). Then there's CM who will be off filming those movies- so there will possibly be a shortage of men in town with Val, Spencer and Drew all away, unless Frank has them tape scenes that he'll spread out while they're gone

R140 Why is his name Wright, hopefully he's not named after Laura Wright 😁

Cameron Mathison also needs to be given his walking papers. I'm sure he also commands a high salary and he brings nothing to the table, nothing.

I hope the shortage of men doesn't give LW the opportunity to campaign for her boyfriend to return to fill in the gap.

GH will air a brand new episode this Thanksgiving, which isn't what they usually do (2015 was the last time they did, if I'm not mistaken) yet they are slightly behind this year (because of preemptions) so this is a way to catch up.

R103 Do you also remember the rumors about Roger and Becky Herbst possibly messing around some years ago as well? Becky's fans were pissed and tried to shut those rumors down.

R143 Please don't put that out there 😁 she's supposedly already salty about others getting to come back as other characters while her boytoy hasn't been invited back for a do over.

According to SOD, Mathison’s Great American Family deal somehow won’t affect his GH duties.

What’s JPS’s conflict? Another season of Villains Of Valley View? Six months seems too long for a 10-episode multicam.

NAC is allegedly set to film from mid-Dec. thru February, which explains why he’s gone pretty dark on social media since Netflix likely has him embargoed to hell.

Roger really manages to say very little in this Soap Digest exit interview.

He informs us that Frank chose not renew his contract, but otherwise doesn't reveal anything. It definitely reads like he's holding back. Holding a lot back.

I wouldn't be surprised if his next move isn't already in the works. Maybe a trip to Salem where he'll show up as Tommy Horton, Jr., great-grandson of Tom and Alice. Or maybe a return trip to Port Charles as Todd.

Last time JPS was doing Villains of Valley, he stayed at MEK's house which is located mid-way between the two studios so he could do both shows and not have a long commute. Saw an interview of MEK's on youtube and JPS was in the background doing laundry and preparing caprese salad for their lunch. It was adorable. lol.

That’s very cute, R149.

Link to the video of MEK?

Here you go.

Thanks r152. That was cute.

JPS may have just been staying overnight, but they sure came across as a couple.

Was that Mitzi yipping in the background?

R148 Really think he's returning as Todd. Frank likes Roger almost as much as he likes Michael Easton, so it would've taken Roger to say or do something for Frank to let him go like he did. Apparently, Frank told Roger it was for storyline reasons. Roger had suggested that he wasn't sure if he wanted to re-sign, however that was when Austin was languishing with Maxie. He's considered leaving a few times, yet Frank would accommodate him so he could stay.

R147 Supposedly it's for Villains of the Valley. They're apparently behind schedule because of the writers/actors striking. Remember he's also on recurring (always, by his own choice) so he could also be using that time off for his own personal time, however only the Disney show is his only known main outside project.

It makes me feel old when I see "Tad the Cad" looking like someone's grandpa. Aging is a bitch.

Rumor has a man from the past on his way back to GH

David Hamilton?

Damian Smith?

R159 R160 Good guesses. No clue, they're keeping it too secret. You know how much Frank likes to surprise the audience. He likes the old school way soaps would try to not give too much away.

*The old school way when soaps would try not to give too much away

Is there any way to resurrect Duke? Stranger things have happened on soaps and I like Ian Buchanan.

*Keeping it top secret.

R163 It's possible. Griffin was supposed to be Anna and Duke's baby that she miscarried, so they could always revisit that too. However, Ian didn't seem too happy, nor did Finola, with how their reunion was written (although that was under RC)

The Anna and Duke reunion went nowhere. Once they were together, Ron just ignored the story entirely. It was such a letdown after the excitement of the real Duke coming back.

When Robin returned and interrupted Patrick and Sabrina's wedding, Ron didn't do much with Robin and Patrick either. Again, a huge letdown after the excitement of interrupted wedding.

Ron didn't know how to write the little romantic moments that fans love. And for a reunion like that of Anna and Duke or Patrick and Robin, it was those little romantic moments that meant so much to the fans.

When fans called him out on not writing those little romantic moments, Ron said something about it being "boring."

Since he's been at Days, Ron has gotten better about writing in those romantic moments. But he's also got a staff of very experienced script writers who are skilled at handling those moments.

Alcazar feels like the return. Especially with “Blaze” as potentially Lila Rae. Sonny needs a viable rival.

R168 Not a really big fan of Ron's? 😁

Lol R166 I meant to address that to you at R168

R167 Yeah he's been rumored back for awhile now. Initially talks fell through, supposedly due to what was being offered, however they were also possibly back on. Especially now with Roger out (even if it's only for the time being) that frees up the budget.

Actually r166, I am a HUGE fan of Ron.

I think he's doing great things at Days and did good things at GH too. He's grown as a writer in the past 15 years and look forward to see more of his work.

However, I also recognize that Ron has his shortcomings, one of which was not being able to write romance, especially romantic reunions -- Anna and Duke and then Patrick and Robin being the prime examples on GH.

He also has a huge ego and did not take criticism well. He should stay off social media entirely. His behavior on social media helped alienate him from the viewers while he was at GH.

There was more to that Duke return story. The entire story was changed then scrapped. There was a major behind the scenes issue. Then a quick wrap up.

r172

what was the original plan?

Yes, what was the original plan for Duke's return?

Why was there so much network interference with GH back in 2012-13.

AJ's return during that same time also had lots of network interference.

For a show full of mob characters, show didn't do much with Duke's mob history when they brought him back a decade ago.

Charlotte is such a fucking stupid cunt. How can she be the only person in Port Charles to not know Grandpa Victor was a terrible person not to be trusted? Fuck some sense into her, Jake.

How long until Austin’s body is discovered?

Sorry but Jake can't pull off straight.

Maybe in comparison to Aiden…

Or Danny, who is apparently a football fan. I guess I could see him as a cheerleader.

Emma was a nice surprise!

I couldn't make out half of what Emma said. No I wasn't drinking on Thanksgiving. She mumbles.

Emma should've gone over and whooped Charlotte's ass.

Why didn't Laura bring Spencer along to tell Charlotte not to believe a word Victor said because he too fell for Victor lies and Victor was a lying liar who lied.

Spencer might have bitchslapped her.

Sean Kanan is on twitter selling his weight loss coaching service. $100 for initial Zoom consultation. Serious inquiries only.

^^^ What is that? A referral to someone who can prescribe Ozempic?

R159 love your choice

Cyrus should have been David’s relative

Kanan HAS dropped a ton of weight

I’m surprised Michael Sutton (stone) never got in on the play-a-new-character game.

I cannot believe GH is trying to make Mo Jr a thing. Do we really need a Soap Nepo baby taking up airtime?

When were Sam and Patrick a thing? Was it before Sabrina or after?

Always surprised they never brought MS back as another character maybe just too iconic as Stone.

Will we ever see SJB back as a third character? Why does that only apply to the men? Loved her Carly and Claudia!

I’d take Tamara back as Carly in a heartbeat let LW be Courtney. Always felt like that would have been a better fit!

I don't think we will see TB back - ever. Her Emmy acceptance speech said it all. She said "I want to thank the kind ones at GH". No mention of Frank. No fawning or over thanking or even excitement, nothing

I think she had a really miserable time at GH. Probably too soon to speak negatively, but the truth is I think BM made her job really difficult with his refusal to engage. It was reported here that she was originally brought back to be Carly as LW was planning to jump ship to Y&R to be with JFP and SB but then they both got canned and she stayed at GH. Must have been very awkward for TB plus she didn't get what she signed up for. Supposedly LW doesn't make it easy for actresses not slated to take over her role, so I can't imagine what she's like with someone who was in fact slated to take over her role.

Laura Wright doesn't have a good reputation among some fans, but she learned how to survive at GH and I can't fault her for that. General Hospital has one of the most dysfunctional sets in daytime. Yes, I know that Days got all the press about Albert Alaar, but GH is way more dysfunctional than that. They've got to navigate producer drama, actor drama, and network drama. Wright just plays the game.

If playing the game means getting the Dillon actor sacked and inflicting her miscast boyfriend on the viewers for five years then her game is more than just survival in a cutthroat workplace.

Also, there's a kerfuffle circulating on twitter about a promo photo of her with Chad and Steve where her pose is less motherly and more girlfriend with Chad. The photo is from 2017 which would have been around the time of her divorce. Was she going after all the younger guys trying to find one to make her ex-husband jealous? Then she found a younger guy and punished us with him.

TB's problem was with Mo and Steve Burton. They were awful to her.

R199 They were also terrible to Kimberly M...(Robin)....And she was a lot younger.

MB/SB were awful to TB this last time or during her original stint? Or both?

Laura Wright is a gullible beard. Wes Ramsey is into men. He had a few boyfriends back in NYC in the 90s

R194 I loved Claudia too. She rocked. LINK...PROMO.....Claudia/Sonny...

Taj Bellow (TJ) and Josh Kelly (Cody BELL) at some Thanksgiving parade.

MB should have kissed TB’s ass since she was the only pairing he’s been in that had any heat! Even when Brenda came back it was never the same.

When Lois took the appetizer out of her mother’s hand it looks like she set it down on the bench they were sitting on. Have these people not heard of plates or napkins?

What kind of whore wears a midriff-baring outfit to a family Thanksgiving?

Another Sarah Brown = Claudia Promo with backstage soundbites. Claudia was kick ass from day one. MB doesn't exactly sound sincere. Hot Brandon Barash seems glad she was there. I still cannot believe GH let him get away.

Why put Spencer in those baggy, formless shorts after he gets out of bed with Trina? Briefs or trunks next time, pls.

R171 Ron really has grown as a writer and as a person somewhat lol he's not as petty as he used to be, although he still has some traits of pettiness.

Admittedly, he's not really too keen on romance in the sense that he prefers messiness and drama instead of writing "sappy" love stories, a prime example is his habit of having couples jump from bed to bed on DOOL. However, he has seemed to have grown somewhat in that aspect as well.

Those social media interactions were interesting, to say the least lol he definitely alienated plenty of viewers with his responses to their criticism of his writing; a lot of those interactions even turned "threatening" (Ron allegedly "threatened" people, including a student) according to some, although he could've just been speaking out of turn in the midst of their argument.

R174 Brian Frons exit in December 2011 is what led to more network interference in 2012-2013 from executives Vicki Dummer and Lisa Hackner, who would critique Ron's writing, along with certain actors (Maurice, for example) who would contact them in an effort to have Ron alter storylines that they didn't agree with.

One such story was Michael alienating Sonny in favor of AJ; Maurice went ballistic (he's admitted to disliking that story with a passion) and Frank/the executives ran interference on his behalf, infuriating Ron. Then Sean Kanan had a falling out with Ron over the way AJ was being written, resulting in Ron making AJ look even more pathetic (Ron had a habit of passive-aggressively taking out his frustrations with actors who critiqued him in his writing of their characters) including taking jabs at Sean's weight gain. Sean stated that he liked Frank, yet he couldn't deal with Ron, which is similar to what Maurice says.

R192 Sam and Patrick were together post-Sabrina. It was after Sam being involved with Silas and the Nina fiasco; Jason Thompson left GH because he felt that Patrick was being wasted and he knew that the plan was for Sam to have a reunion with Billy's Jason, so Jill Farren Phelps brought him over to Y&R (and supposedly paid him more than what GH was paying him)

I remember the jabs at Sean's weight. Was Ron to thank for the ridiculous Pickle-Lila storyline? Poor Jane Elliot.

I loathe Maurice and his "acting" has been awful for quite a few years now. Sputtering, stilted, choppy acting while blatantly reading cue cards.

R193 That's most likely the reason. Michael Sutton is now a top selling real estate agent in LA (which a lot of former soap stars have become successful at) and he's still close friends with his "mentor" Maurice.

Interesting enough, idk if you remember, Antonio Sabato Jr. was campaigning, practically begging for Frank and Ron to rehire him at GH. The rumor is that Maurice was against it, for he "allegedly" didn't want Jagger to overshadow Sonny.

R213 😆 Ron was definitely responsible for Pickle-Lila. It was his homage to Lila having to sell pickles after Edward lost their fortune iirc

R194 Anything's possible, however she's known to be a handful (in her defense, she has experienced a lot of trauma in her life) which Frank probably isn't willing to deal with.

She quit as Carly (in 2001) because she wanted to try her luck in prime-time and film. Incoming producer Jill Farren Phelps tried to convince her to stay, however Sarah had already made up her mind that it was time to go (she initially planned to leave a year earlier, for the same reasons, along with a desire to get away from then Executive Producer Wendy Riche, who Sarah couldn't stand) however the network talked her into staying for at least one more year).

Jill wanted to bring in either Gina Tognoni or Robin Christopher from OLTL in as Carly; both actresses were interested, however the network (primarily Felicia Minei-Behr, who had issues with Jill) refused, citing their OLTL roles as being too recognizable to all of a sudden jump ship to GH as Carly. That's when Jill was forced to recast, where she chose Tamara Braun. Incoming head writer Megan McTavish detested the character of Carly; since Jill couldn't land one of her faves as Carly, she signed off on Megan's decision to kill Carly off (this was within six months of Tamara's hiring). Maurice caught wind of this, so he went over their heads to the network (primarily Felicia) and talked her into stopping them from killing Carly off, thus saving Tamara's job (even though he and Tamara eventually fell out).

When Tamara quit, Jill (and the network) tried to convince her to stay, yet she refused (Tamara and Jill had a screaming match one day on set, which played into her decision to quit) so they contacted Sarah, asking her to reprise Carly for at least six months (after asking Tamara to stay an additional six months) yet she turned them down as well (Sarah was fresh off a short stint as Julia Larrabee on As The World Turns). The reason behind the "six months" was because Jill already had Laura Wright in mind as Carly; however, she still had six months left on her contract as Cassie on Guiding Light, so Jill and Brian Frons had to wait. Jennifer Bransford was hired as a "placeholder" for Laura Wright; it came down to Jennifer Bransford, Sarah Buxton (Annie, Sunset Beach) and Jamie Luner (Peyton, Savannah; Liza, All My Children) as Carly; Jill and Brian chose the "worst one" in an effort to make the recast so unlikeable that the audience would end up screaming for anyone other than Jennifer as a recast, (which ended up happening). Another option was to have Cynthia Preston (Faith Roscoe) pull double duty as Faith and Carly (with plastic surgery after an explosion) yet Carly's other storylines (her children being kidnapped, Michael killing AJ- which the network changed, infuriating hw Bob Guza, Reese revealed as Charlotte, Carly's subsequential mental breakdown) were too big at the time to add in that storyline angle.

Jill asked Sarah to return to GH (never as Carly, according to Sarah) in 2007; they had a chance run-in if I'm not mistaken. Guza and Sarah went over Claudia's development together, which she approved of; however, the writers ended up striking, so temp head writer Garin Wolf ultimately chose a different path for Claudia, including having her sleep with Sonny practically immediately after meeting, which Sarah stated wasn't Guza's plan at all. She didn't like Garin's writing for Claudia, yet she also eventually grew to dislike Guza's writing as well, which is why she quit (her last straw was Claudia going after Sonny's children, which Sarah thought was beyond sick, for a grown woman to target children. Tony Geary criticized her for taking herself too seriously and not contributing to the craft, which is primarily why he volunteered for Luke to be the one who killed Jake)

R195 They should've did that with LW back in 2005 😆 however she was practically promised Carly while she was still at GL.

Ironically, they were planning to recast Courtney in 2005/2006; Alicia Leigh Willis, like her BFF on set Tamara, was also asked to stay by Jill and Brian, yet she was ready to leave. The main frontrunner for a recast Courtney was Jennifer Morris (Jennifer Rappaport, OLTL) and they were going to turn Courtney into a villainess, after being brainwashed by Helena. The storyline ended up being dropped.

R196 Right Tamara and Frank ended on bad terms (he didn't renew her contract, even though she wanted to stay, which is a standard practice of his) so if she were to ever return, there would either have to be some kissing and making up on their ends, or Frank would have to be fired.

Yes she was absolutely initially intended to be brought back as Carly; when Tamara and Frank were friends, she expressed interest in returning to GH in 2016- and since he knew Laura was planning to leave in the Fall of 2017 when her contract was up, to join Jill and Steve at Y&R, Frank didn't want her to return as anyone other than Carly. Jill and Steve getting canned in 2016 by CBS three a wrinkle in Laura's plans, so she ultimately stayed. That's when Frank brought in Tamara as Kim, right after Laura re-signed her contract. The network welcomed Tamara's return, touting it as a "return to narrative" with Maurice, Steve and Tamara as their big three (in a nostalgic feel to how big they all were 15 years prior). Reportedly, Laura Wright threw slight fits and felt insecure about Tamara's return, "allegedly" feeling left out, so in turn, Frank hired her boyfriend Wes to appease her, shoehorning him in the role of Peter when it was initially meant for Josh Swickard.

R197 GH definitely has the most dysfunctional set in daytime. At one time they were apparently neck and neck with Y&R, however the Y&R cast overall is a more cohesive unit than the cast of GH.

R198 😆 Laura likes them young. There's old rumors of her chasing after some of the younger guys on the set of GL, including Tom Pelphrey (Jonathan Randall). Some say she slept with him, although when it comes to him, he apparently got around on set, including a dalliance with Gina Tognoni and possibly his main co-star, Stephanie Gatschet (Tammy Winslow). Stephanie, btw, played Laura's character Cassie's daughter, for anyone here that wasn't a fan of GL, or it was before your time.

Tom Pelphrey almost came to GH; he was offered the role of Dante (with the runner ups being David Lago (Raul Guittierez, Y&R) and Dominic Zamprogna) and was seemingly interested, however he eventually turned them down after considering everything (possibly wondering if he really wanted to work with Laura Wright again lol jkjk) so that's when they went with Dominic.

R201 During her first stint. They got along with her better during her second stint.

R202 Really? Can't say I'm too surprised, because he has always sort of seemed like "family" to me. Care to elaborate further? Lol

Laura Wright was also accused of fucking Donnell Turner, when he went to her house once and picked her up for an awards show, if iirc. Laura was quick to shut down any rumors, stating that her and Donnell were "just friends."

This wasn't too long after her marriage dissolved (her husband ended up leaving her and filing for divorce, which reportedly blindsided her) and there were rumors of her husband being jealous of certain male costars, which some say we're because her husband wasn't exactly a "looker" himself. There were also rumors of him being uncomfortable with Carly being paired with Shawn, which Laura did ask to be let out of.

Sometimes I wonder which is better; the days of revolving EPs and HWs versus the now times when one producer and one HW(s) just remain in place because no one wants to make any sudden moves that may shift what little audience these shows have left.

GH is a broken set and that starts at the top. Frank sounds like a douche. Y&R is #1, but it looks no better than Days of our Lives in production quality or storytelling. And Bold is wash, rinse, repeat because the foreign fans who keep that show afloat demand it.

All 4 are on hospice care now. There is nothing innovative or provocative. How sad is the state of soaps when the biggest buzz of the last couple of weeks was a guest stint by a 70 year old actress from a cancelled soap.

[quote]There were also rumors of him being uncomfortable with Carly being paired with Shawn, which Laura did ask to be let out of.

I have to wonder how in the hell that conversation happens.

Should also mention that some rumors had claimed that Donnell Turner is bisexual and had a domestic partnership with a man, which the cast was aware of, yet he kept a low profile to appeal to his female fan base. Not sure of the validity of those rumors, he is very private though.

There were also more instances of Donnell and Laura Wright being spotted together in between her being caught off guard by the dissolution of her marriage and ending up with Wes, which had fans wondering if there really was something going on.

I’m always amazed by the level of gossip on this thread. Folks in the know, what’s going on currently:

1.) Is the cast pissed at/happy with the scab writing? 2.) Are Eden and Evan really fucking or just showmancing? 3.) Was RoHo’s exit as amicable as his interviews made it seem? 4.) Is Becky H frustrated by this terrible, endless Finn romance that everybody hates? 5.) Did NAC stop doing press for the show of his own volition or is he under Netflix media blackout? 6.) WHO is forcing Carly and Drew down our throats, and why? Is Cam M actually happy on the show and with LW?

R224 I miss the days of the revolving HW's and EP's; in my opinion, they knew something wasn't working, so they made changes in an effort to fix it. Granted it didn't always work out, however they would usually keep trying until they got it right. Now, mostly everything remains stagnant; usually it takes something detrimental to the set overall (like the Albert Alarr situation) to get rid of someone at the top.

GH is definitely disjointed and Frank has been known to be a douche on several occasions lol while Y&R is slightly head and shoulders above Days production wise, although not by that much (seeing how they're both produced by Sony, the budget cuts are obvious. B&B, as you mentioned, is backed by a big international following, which gives them more advantages than their Sony counterparts. However, although visually appealing, their international audience isn't interested in seeing them deviate from their same tried and true formula, which sadly includes dissuading them from homosexual stories, which should be the norm seeing how they're based in LA and centered around the fashion industry).

Colleen Zenk has definitely sparked a buzz hasn't she 😆 yeah that has seemed to dominate the soap headlines. Susan Lucci being honored with an Outstanding Achievement Emmy at the ceremony on December 15th will probably generate similar buzz as well.

R225 Lol she asked if they could end Carly and Shawn in favor of Carly/Patrick or Carly/Johnny, which is how the latter came into fruition. That is interesting to wonder exactly how she worded it in that conversation though lol

If it's true, the whole no-rapists mandate at ABC definitely hits Roger harder than any other actor. Two of his three roles had associations with rape.

I think somehow if Lady Geary wanted to come back for a visit as a very alive Luke he'd be allowed to do so.

[quote] Frank sounds like a douche.

A hot douche, but a douche nonetheless.

Seems like the set has become a lot of little cliques - and he's let a few actors become tyrannical.

He may have been great at budget control but managing talent.....not so much.

Maybe LW just wanted the rumor out there that she and DT were together regardless of accuracy to make her ex-husband jealous? I just don't think DT is straight, zero chemistry with women. Jordan #2 (Brianna) said when she auditioned for the role the actresses were told not to kiss DT because he's a germaphobe. Is "germaphobe" a convenient cover for "I don't want to kiss a bunch of women"?

LOL'ed at the rumor that Laura "Snaggletooth" Wright demanded that Robert Palmer Watkins fuck her......that can't be true, can it?

R227 Lol I can't speak for the other droppers, so idk where they stand, however I can give you my take:

1. Some are, others aren't (the consensus seems to be that although the scabs, which actually are the producers, are actually providing movement within the storylines, instead of them remaining stagnant and dragging out, there's certain things happening that wouldn't be the case if the original writers would have still been there, IE: Anna and Valentin breaking up, Carly and Joss being on the back burner, Ava being victimized and played for a fool, Esme being cast aside in favor of Spencer and Trina, etc.)

2. They are really fucking, although Evan is rumored to be bisexual. Eden had a boyfriend, Jose San Martin, that she "allegedly" cheated on Evan with (in a case of life imitating art, with the whole Cameron/Joss/Evan entanglement)

3. No. Roger is trying to save face because he was essentially blindsided by Frank not renewing his contract. Apparently, the show is interested in bringing back three males (according to rumors) so Frank was advised to make room in the budget, therefore he chose to let Roger go (even though Frank likes Roger, he adores both Michael Easton and Trevor St. John over him, primarily because Roger left him high and dry when he jumped ship CBS as Paul Ryan on ATWT, vacating his role as Todd on OLTL). Now even though Roger was considering leaving, which he let his fans in on two years prior, after realizing Austin wasn't clicking, he still wasn't completely sure about leaving. Frank made the decision for him, however he could always come back as Todd (or yet another character, though his preference is allegedly Todd).

4. Becky is more of the get along to go along type, yet at a recent fan appearance, she allegedly didn't seem as enthusiastic about being with Finn and admitted that she would love to have Greg Vaughan back, preferably as Lucky. This could also stem from an earlier fan appearance where Michael Easton hinted at his displeasure of the Elizabeth/Finn romance as well. The producers aka scabs seem to be more invested in making them work as a couple; they moved slowly with them at first, though now it seems to be picking up. If Michael really wants out of the pairing, Frank will do just that, because Michael is one of his faves.

5. Supposedly it's because of his team; they were the ones who "allegedly" advised him to dissociate himself from GH, which was something he's also ok with. Besides a select few, he's not too close with the majority of the cast. Not sure of a Netflix blackout, but allegedly it's him and his team. He also plans on leaving when his contract is up soon, there's already rumors of a recast or Spencer being presumed dead/missing or being carted off to prison. If it weren't for the dual striking, he would've been off canvas this year, only to return shortly before his contract is up for renewal.

6. Laura Wright and Elizabeth Korte. Carly needed a love interest, for Maurice has made it clear that he refuses to do CarSon with Laura Wright. He wants Sonny with Nina permanently, unless there were a situation where he ended up with Brenda, of course (however Vanessa Marcil has indicated that she has no interest in ever returning, while also informing the show that they should recast Brenda) or even Laura and Anna (which he has hinted at) although he enjoys working with Cynthia to the point that he doesn't want them to break up for good, even if they do separate. Cam Mathison is just happy to have a job; after being let go by Entertainment Tonight, he contacted Frank and asked him if there was space for him on GH. Apparently both him and LW know that the "Crew" isn't working, yet there aren't really any other options for them on canvas. He's also aware that his Drew isn't exactly catching on with fans, along with the possibility of Steve Burton returning for a Jason/Carly redux, which is another reason why he's seeking outside projects.

What happened that motivated FV to finally get rid of CoIoma and the Brando actor? FV tolerated MC's subpar acting and backstage recruiting for the borg for four years when he could have let him go at any of the 24 (or is it 26) week cycles in his contract. Was the Brando actor an asshole behind the scenes as rumored?

FV digging in his heels and refusing to make changes when things aren't working is so counterproductive and incredibly stubborn. Is he a Taurus?

R230 Supposedly the "no rapists" mandate is being lifted by Bob Iger. That was set in place by his predecessor, Bob Chapek, along with the vaccine mandate during Iger's two year absence (Dec. 2020-Nov.2022)

R232 Laura Wright wouldn't be petty enough to present herself in that manner, making her ex-husband jealous with rumors running rampant of her cavorting with a co-star 😆 bite your tongue 😏

Donnell has been the subject of gay/bi rumors. I remember that as well, about him being a germaphobe and refusing to kiss Brianna Nicole Henry during her audition process.

At R234, #2 Eden had a boyfriend named Jose San Martin that she allegedly cheated on with Evan, leading to her breakup with Jose.

R233 Supposedly it's really true.

The scabs aka producers material should be wrapping up during the month of December, with the original writers' material back just in time for the holidays. Carly will be back front and center under Korte instead of the supporting role she's in now.

[quote]At [R234], #2 Eden had a boyfriend named Jose San Martin that she allegedly cheated on with Evan, leading to her breakup with Jose.

Well, you can't blame her for that. Look at him.

Thanks, R234.

R235 Getting rid of Brando and Nikolas were mutual decisions between the network and Frank, moreso on Disney, who's had somewhat of a spat with Scientology for years. Johnny Wactor was let go while Bob Chapek was still CEO, while Marcus Coloma got his walking papers about a month after Bob Iger resumed his position as CEO.

Remember the rumors are that Marcus was so upset, he refused to film his final scenes, resulting in Adam Huss filling in for him again. Veteran contracts typically have a cycle of 26 weeks while rookie contracts usually have the 13 week cycle, although that's not always the case; someone like Kate Mansi, for example, might have the vet contract since she isn't new to soaps.

There were rumors of Johnny being an asshole on set, he was part of a group with Maurice, Steve, Ingo and Marcus.

Marcus, btw, has mentioned that he's been offered a role on another soap, yet he turned them down.

That definitely describes Frank to perfection; he was exactly the same way at OLTL. He's actually not a Taurus though, he's a Scorpio.

R241 Are you saying that Jose isn't cute enough, or Evan is too hot to resist? 😁

Refusing to shoot his final scenes is such a scientology power play much like Will Smith's slap. Issuing a statement afterwards that he had COVID and that's why he couldn't film his scenes with blatant PR damage control, he obviously realized he'd never work for ABC again and GH probably just wanted the story to go away so they didn't contradict him. I doubt any other soap offered him a job, he's just trying to save face. But on the other hand, he does have fellow Scientologist Stafford over on Y&R and is that other scientologist, Nadia, still at DOOL?

R242 You're welcome.

R245 Wow no holding back huh 😆 yeah he did claim that he couldn't film because of COVID. As a matter of fact, when he initially refused to get vaccinated, along with Johnny, Donnell, Ingo and Steve, they held auditions to recast Brando, Nikolas and Curtis, with three replacements chosen and ready to go (Adam Huss was the rumored Nikolas recast). That drove Donnell, Marcus and Johnny to get vaxxed. Is Will Smith still heavily involved in Scientology? I had no idea that Nadia was lol however yes, she's still at Days.

Yes, Marcus is far too busy doing a low budget, shot with an iphone series on youtube with bozo Kin Shriner called Three Dumb Dicks are something like that to accept something so trivial as a network soap job, LOL.

Thanks for all the insider info. Great dirt!

But what was the dirt behind the failure of Duke's return. Ian Buchanan clearly wanted that to work, as did Finola Hughes. Why was Duke's return ultimately so lackluster and yawn inducing?

R248 😆 😆

Adam Huss is fine as Nikolas, certainly better than Coloma.

[quote] Why was Duke's return ultimately so lackluster and yawn inducing?

Quite frankly, I don't think Ian was as capable of butching it up and having Duke read as straight as he used to be in the 80s.

Nice that the show ran the tribute card for Tyler Christopher at the end of Monday's episode.

When was the last time Leslie Charleson was on? Not just her voice, but her body. Was it Luke's funeral in January 2022?

R249 Ron was the one who initially wanted Duke back, he grew up watching GH- he loved the action/adventure stories of the 80's. Frank admittedly wasn't much of a GH fan, he preferred OLTL, AMC and Y&R, although he did watch some of 90's GH more than the other decades. Ron didn't like how they brought in a recast Duke with plastic surgery in the 80's, so bringing Duke back was his way of rectifying the situation.

Honestly, there were stories planned for Anna and Duke- originally, Sabrina was either going to be Anna and Duke's miscarried child, or Sonny and Lily's, with Britt initially slated to be Tracy's daughter (this was during the time Britt and Sabrina were both interested in Patrick, around the time Anna was with Luke, while Tracy was still in love with him). After Britt was named Cesar Faison and Liesl's child, Sabrina was reconsidered as Sonny and Lily's baby that died in the limousine explosion, until that was changed as well.

The plan was for Duke to be ensconced in the mob, heavily, resulting in conflict between him and Anna. Anna was supposed to have sex with Julian, particularly immediately after Duke died, which Finola refused to do; Finola had issues with Ron's writing and Frank's rewrites quite often, prior to Duke's death, to the point that Duke was allegedly written out as a way to slight Finola (for she loved the fact that he was back on the show, and wanted to play Anna and Duke, without her sleeping with Julian or any other stories that she felt were nonsense). Griffin was then supposed to be the child of Anna and Duke, which is still a possibility, while there's always the possibility of Duke returning from the dead once again, if Ian is willing to return.

R254 May 5th, 2022 was her last time onscreen.

[quote][R254] May 5th, 2022 was her last time onscreen.

Is that the last on-screen appearance of Leslie Charleson? Or of Monica Q?

There's a difference.

There was a substitute actress playing Monica for a episode or two around that time. As far as I recall, the last time Monica was onscreen was when the sub actress was playing her.

What I want to know is when was the last time Leslie Charleson was onscreen as Monica.

R257 Leslie's last episode was May 5th, 2022. The substitute you're referring to, Holly Kaplan, was on March 15th, 2022. Patty McCormack, the other substitute, was on in 2018.

Ahh, thanks for the clarification there.

R257 My mistake, Leslie Charleson last aired as Monica on February 25th, 2022. Holly Kaplan was playing Monica the last time she was seen onscreen, March 15th, 2022.

didn't Leslie do a call in episode? Or am I thinking of another actress?

No you're right, Leslie did a call-in episode to Olivia on August 21st, 2022 then to Elizabeth on March 29th, 2023

Did you also happen to catch Leslie's State Of Mind episode, R261 in February 2022?

Rumor is Amanda Setton is pregnant again, which will be written into her storyline for a Brook-Lynn/Chase pregnancy.

So back to the blazers for BLQ. She only recently stopped wearing the blazers. Maybe they should have the character start her own clothing line, Blazers by BLQ.

R265 😆 😆

I absolutely adore Maura West but found her scene with Dante a little odd. Ava is not a dummy. Why would she come across so guilty to a police detective, especially since she had advance warning from Sonny?

I think she was hoping that Dante could tell she was telling the truth. Something tells me that Nick is the shooter and wants to frame her.

MW has admitted that she wanted Ava to have sex with Dante, so if she also came off flirty in those scenes, that's why. She likes to flirt in her scenes with certain male actors

I’d like to see Ava and Dante have a ons…or anything interesting to happen ever.

Only thing at the moment that I’m looking forward to is Tracy’s return and bobbies tribute.

I wonder if actress availability has anything to do with limiting stories about a resurrection of Emily or aj or a dex connection…

Can we see those stories with no Monica?

Be hard to bring Emily Q back to life if Monica wasn't there.

Alan is dead, AJ is dead, Jason is dead (for now). So, to bring Emily back, there needs to be at least one family member there.

The only Qs on the show now who were also there during Emily's storylines are Ned and Tracey.

There was so much more story potential with aj… wouldn’t make sense for the dex/aj connection that was rumored if there’s no Monica either…

Why hasn't FV hired VI for GH? VI looks much better now than he did on Mo's show a year or so ago.

An actor hit VI when he was playing Lujack on GL. He won't say who. Guesses? Young Marissa Tomei had a crush on him when she was on ATWT and he was on GL.

He's doing a Soap Cruise with Jacob Young, Sean Kanan, William DeVry... Talks about it at the end.

VI would be great on GH - I wish they’d bring him on. Could be paired with Anna. Maybe as Dr.David or even a Ric recast? A Cassadine? A new character?

Would have loved for Emily to have resurfaced or better let it be revealed that Rebecca (the twin) was always Emily…would be hard to see her back without Jason, Monica, or even TC Nikolas on the canvas!

What was the point of doing an outdoor scene showing Sonny walking to his car near the end of Tuesday's episode?

Was it to show that Sonny drives himself and doesn't have a driver?

Or was it some advertising tie-in with car manufacturer to show off their brand (whatever brand it was)?

I can't figure why they'd take the time to go outside (even if it was just outside the studio) to film him walking to his car. They went to the extra time and expense to go outside, but the shot didn't do anything to advance to plot.

I think they were establishing it as a familiar venue and we may see it again for a pivotal scene

R277 They shoot a ton of scenes outside of Prospect Studios. It’s one of Frank’s cost cutting measures. They even shoot in the offices at Prospect.

Yes, R279, my favorite is when they go to the “hospital” rooftop, and you can see Griffith Observatory in the background.

Night Shift was a better GH. Would anyone watch that if they did another spin off or would the show be better with a tighter cast?

Show would be better with a tighter cast and an EP who isn't consumed with petty grievances, playing favorites and wasting money on barnyard animals.

Who was the guy in Kelly's talking to Snarly? Pikeman? Nice looking guy. And why does LW clomp when she walks. Also, I can't stand her annoying fake laugh.

R283 That fake laugh has to go. She uses it multiple times per episode. A strong director would put a stop to it.

I loved that they acknowledged that Molly had never once stepped foot in Kristina’s apartment. Which is much nicer than Molly’s and T.J.’s, and they’re a lawyer and a doctor.

This show is a disaster! A shell of its former self. Don’t know why they don’t use the popular Rebecca Herbst or Kelly Monaco … hate the Carly show.

Egomaniac Mo has pulled some strings or greased some palms to get his son named #3 of the ten best teen soap actors on some site called soap opera news. I'm not linking and giving his delusions more clicks. #1 is Scarlett Fernandez (Charlotte Cassadine). It must be a publicist paid puff piece because NuDanny is on the list and he's done what, two scenes?

Holy shit has this show been boring during the last week.

This Pikeman storyline is now just ridiculous for the viewers. You can't blame the strike anymore. Rumor Mill now says it's Jerry Jax. Yawn. No thank you.

I’d like to nominate today’s show as most boring episode of 2023.

But we had lesbians kissing?!!

Mumbles Junior on Wednesday. ugh.

Would they actually bring back RH for a THIRD time? Christ.

Surprised Tamara is on Steve's show. Wasn't he one of her tormetors?

She looks good and much healthier than when she was last on GH.

Steve looks like his wearing foundation and bronzer, lol

*tormentors

Are they really going to film in Monument Valley or will this be another Cliffs of Jacksonville situation?

Jake should dump Charlotte and start dating Adam.

Tamara and Steve play a couple (Ava and Harris) on DAYS.

Is Jeff Kober on Ozempic?

Cyrus looks thinner. He's almost at the point where he looks like he's sick.

It might be that he shaved his beard.

R281 Night Shift was pretty good. Frank ironically has pitched at least three GH spinoffs (online/streaming) in the twelve years he's been at GH, yet they were all nixed by the network. One was specifically catered to the teens/young adult set.

Frank's twelve year anniversary was Dec.1st btw (when he first reported to work at GH- shows produced by him first aired in Feb 2012)

R288 Looks like we're in the transition period between the producers/scabs and the permanent writers material. Usually there's a shift in the writing that becomes noticeable onscreen before the writers names are actually shown in the credits, where they're editing scripts and rearranging things. More Carly inserted into scenes seems to be an indication that Korte was busy adjusting scripts, for she has a habit of including Carly in stories that aren't exactly hers just for the sake of having her on

R294 They've long since made up, so has Tamara and Maurice. Back then, Tamara grew to dislike Guza and Phelps as well. Charles Pratt got along with her well, which is why it was easy for her to accept the role of Reese on AMC while he was their headwriter. Guza and Phelps were, obviously, aligned with Maurice and Steve while Tamara grew close to both Alicia Leigh Willis and Ted King (ironically, Alicia's Courtney was named after Jill's real life daughter Courtney)

The BLQ actress is getting dragged on twitter for refusing to do loves scenes for religious reasons. Supposedly Chase actor is in agreement because they respect their spouses. But it was pointed out he had no problem doing love scenes with Willow and is probably just trying to support her.

If she's claiming religious reasons, she's making it hard for them to fire her and if she is pregnant again as mentioned upthread, then even harder to get rid of her. She's working on a soap, not the Great American Channel, what did she expect? I laughed when Chase and BLQ had their first sex scene and they just cut away to the morning after and she was wearing grandma pajamas. I guess it's back to the blazers for her. They are calling her Blazer Lynn Ingalls on twitter. I liked TempBLQ better than this one, she dressed better and was more interesting.

The Violet kid is also getting dragged for having the power to dictate the song she wrote be incorporated into the show when veteran actors have no say so in storyline.

Can we keep the Brennan guy? I like him.

Now that strikes are over, the Daytime Emmys are being held on Friday on CBS

GH nominees include Finola Hughes and Maurice Benard in Lead Actress and Lead Actor.

Sonya Eddy, Brook Kerr and Kelly Thiebaud in Supporting Actress.

Nicholas Chavez, Jon Lindstrom, Robert Gossart and Chad Duell in Supporting Actor.

Eden McCoy in Younger Actor.

Ally Mills in Guest Performer.

I hope Kelly T. wins and doesn't thank Frank by name. A general "I'd like to thank everyone at GH" will suffice. And nothing will ever be as brilliant as Tamara Braun's "I'd like to thank the kind ones at GH" after she got royally screwed last time around.

FV should be forever punished for breaking up Britt/Jason in favor of Snarly and then adding insult to injury with the Britt/Cody BELL nonsense.