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All the people at these pro-Palestine rallies keep threatening they won't vote for Biden

I wish a reporter would counter with so you will vote for Trump?

Not voting for Biden seems like kind of a hollow threat.

by Anonymousreply 138February 9, 2024 9:45 PM

It’s called the Susan Sarandon Cunt Complex where you’d rather ‘bring on the revolution’ and see a far right leader than vote for a competent moderate.

by Anonymousreply 1November 6, 2023 9:26 PM

ABC Radio White House correspondent said Biden is losing favor because of Inflation. The Middle Class feels he's done nothing to lower Gas and Grocery store prices, their biggest concern.

by Anonymousreply 2November 6, 2023 9:30 PM

These are the same people who voted for Ralph Nader. We all know what happened there...

by Anonymousreply 3November 6, 2023 9:35 PM

I saw an article where a protestor said people would vote for third party or Trump as a protest.

by Anonymousreply 4November 6, 2023 9:43 PM

The GOP & Kyrstyn Synymya [sic] killed Joe’s most ambitious middle class perks. The squad stonewalled on something idiotic too. Asshole showboaters.

by Anonymousreply 5November 6, 2023 9:46 PM

The “Palestinians” might vote for Trumplthinskin. Then he’ll deport them.

by Anonymousreply 6November 6, 2023 9:54 PM

^^^God willing.

by Anonymousreply 7November 6, 2023 9:59 PM

They're morons.

by Anonymousreply 8November 6, 2023 10:05 PM

Are all the far lefties down with the 72 virgins-in-paradise incentive of being a terrorist? A bit regressive to be so slut shamey.

by Anonymousreply 9November 6, 2023 10:29 PM

[quote]Not voting for Biden seems like kind of a hollow threat.

No, they're stupid enough not to vote at all thinking that they're making a statement.

by Anonymousreply 10November 6, 2023 10:42 PM

R2, middle class educated people know that the president doesn't control gas prices, which are going down anyway.

Educated people know that the president doesn't set grocery prices, either

Those are uneducated, low information voters

by Anonymousreply 11November 6, 2023 10:53 PM

R11 Those "Low Information Voters" will go the polls in greater numbers than you think.

by Anonymousreply 12November 6, 2023 11:17 PM

In totally unrelated news Hamas is carpet-bombing the internet with nonsense and horseshit.

A coincidence I'm sure.

by Anonymousreply 13November 6, 2023 11:19 PM

I'm really beginning to think we've taken the two party system about as far as we can. Literally every other Western country has at least 4 (doesn't France usually have 10+ at any given point?) and it usually still results in someone fairly moderate winning (USUALLY). I think if in addition to a Democrat and Republican Party, we were to give the far left a Progressive Party and a Socialist Party, and the far right a Nationalist Party and Christian Party, all the crazies could feel represented and wouldn't cast protest votes or sit out elections entirely. Plus, it would prevent a Populist on either side from getting too many votes during general elections from single issue voters. Both the left and the right have just become far too fractured at this point to feel recognized politically, and it contributes to so much social unrest.

by Anonymousreply 14November 6, 2023 11:27 PM

Some of those people at the rallies will (stupidly) vote for RFK Jr or Cornel West.

by Anonymousreply 15November 6, 2023 11:47 PM

[quote]I'm really beginning to think we've taken the two party system about as far as we can. Literally every other Western country has at least 4

Well, it certainly would be nice if the rethugs split into two parties - the maga people and the not brain dead ones.

The dems could also split into the so-called "Squad" and their supporters and the non-unhinged people.

In the ideal world, it would take a coalition of any three of those groups to get a majority with any three groups able to override any bullshit pulled by the fourth.

by Anonymousreply 16November 6, 2023 11:50 PM

Okay… Trump will put the Muslim ban back in place.

by Anonymousreply 17November 6, 2023 11:52 PM

Glad they are willing to sacrifice our freedom in the US for a #FreePalestine. They are really showing everyone!

Very smart.

by Anonymousreply 18November 6, 2023 11:55 PM

Yeah the pro Palestinians will at least have their heads served on a platter.

by Anonymousreply 19November 6, 2023 11:55 PM

Yes, OP, let’s focus on the narrow subset of voters at the pro-Palestinian rallies saying this, and omit the glaring fact that Biden is unpopular across the board — even more unpopular than TRUMP in most key/swing states (in which the average voter likely doesn’t give a shit about Israel or Palestine) as I type this. I’m sure the motivation behind your post has nothing to do with Islamophobia or related.

🙄

by Anonymousreply 20November 6, 2023 11:57 PM

You should see the new scary CBS poll

Trump is being favored over Biden by Americans

Hate it but it’s true

by Anonymousreply 21November 6, 2023 11:58 PM

^ and to add: even in key states that went Biden in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 22November 6, 2023 11:58 PM

I’m sure OP has a lot to say about the zealously pro-Israel right-wingers that were, are and have been staunchly pro-Trump.

by Anonymousreply 23November 6, 2023 11:59 PM

OP finds it surprising and shocking that many Muslim Americans might feel disenchanted by Biden and his pathetic ass-licking of Netanyahu, but I’m sure OP understands and empathizes with the lower class White man with no higher education that votes trump because of “the economy” (…and the stuff that we can’t mention).

by Anonymousreply 24November 7, 2023 12:06 AM

Well played, Putin.

by Anonymousreply 25November 7, 2023 12:13 AM

r21 Biden brought it on to himself. He'll graciously bow out and let someone else run. BTW, I AM a Democrat.

by Anonymousreply 26November 7, 2023 12:21 AM

The cognitive dissonance is astounding. Then if they ever come to their senses, they'll run and hash out their emotional bullshit online like everyone is supposed to care.

by Anonymousreply 27November 7, 2023 12:29 AM

Too many of the pro-Palestinian are unwilling to acknowledge that Hamas and Hezbollah are basically terrorist groups who have no intention to ever agree to a two-state solution or a peace treaty, and are primarily responsible for the current situation.

Israel is also a bad actor in all this for their policy of taking Palestinian territory and building Israeli settlements on it.

by Anonymousreply 28November 7, 2023 1:16 AM

There was also a NYT poll earlier today – before his belligerent trial appearance – that suggested Trump is polling well-ahead of Biden in five of six battleground states. Uh, yeah, Trump's been mostly out of sight unless you've been paying close attention, and Americans are – predictably, but stupidly – blaming Biden for global macroeconomic issues over which he has zero control.

Reality check, bitches: Trump will be tried for NINETY-ONE COUNTS – at both the state & federal level – by this time next year. Even if, by some miracle, he gets off, the American public will get endless very strong reality checks about his unhinged fuckery throughout the election cycle. He already had to course-correct once recently over his latent antisemitism – after he congratulated Hamas for a "brilliant" attack – but all the white nationalists he refuses to disavow could very well be his Waterloo, in this instance. (That said, even *I* don't get why KKK types are more pissy about Jews than Muslims. Is it just because they're mostly white?)

by Anonymousreply 29November 7, 2023 1:31 AM

[quote]Too many of the pro-Palestinian are unwilling to acknowledge that Hamas and Hezbollah are basically terrorist groups who have no intention to ever agree to a two-state solution or a peace treaty, and are primarily responsible for the current situation.

The fuck?? Hezbollah is in Lebanon, you idiot. It's the Palestinian Authority that runs Palestine outside of the Gaza Strip, and they DO support a two-state solution.

Also, guess who first rejected the two-state-solution idea? Hint: it wasn't Hamas, and his nickname rhymes with Gigi.

by Anonymousreply 30November 7, 2023 1:34 AM

Only voted for Biden to not have Trump. Knew he was a war person. Like Hillary. Had no choice. We can do better. No excuse for killing 1400 Jews in Israel. No excuse for killing 10,000 Palestinians. The world deserves better than what we have for leaders now. It shouldn’t be an either or situation. Why the hell the DNC anointed Biden with the crown is beyond me.

by Anonymousreply 31November 7, 2023 1:51 AM

R31: Biden was seen as the only way to head off Bloomberg, so the party establishment coalesced around him.

by Anonymousreply 32November 7, 2023 1:55 AM

That recent "Poll" was a mockery. 3,600 respondents interviewed that FIRST had to be contacted via LANDLINE??? LMFAO!

The only people that continue to have "Landlines" in this Country, are curmudgeonly old farts who refuse to give up the past. Now what party is chock-full of such "Respondents"?

by Anonymousreply 33November 7, 2023 1:56 AM

Why are so many here putting down the left wing, when the left wing supports gay rights and human rights? The centrists never had the gay communities back. Especially same sex marriage. Sorry if I went off topic…

by Anonymousreply 34November 7, 2023 2:03 AM

[quote] That recent "Poll" was a mockery. 3,600 respondents interviewed that FIRST had to be contacted via LANDLINE??? LMFAO? The only people that continue to have "Landlines" in this Country, are curmudgeonly old farts who refuse to give up the past. Now what party is chock-full of such "Respondents"?

I take it that you didn’t read that the poll results were broken down by age group, including the group of voters under 30.

by Anonymousreply 35November 7, 2023 2:21 AM

R31, what the actual fuck does that have to do with Biden? You don't seriously think Hamas would've *avoided* attacking Israel if Trump was still president, do you? (Or any other Democrat, for that matter. Like 9/11, this plan was years in the making and involved thousands of people.)

R35, I'd legitimately trust a twentysomething with a landline (!!) FAR less than anyone over 50 with one. I literally know no one under 40 who still has one. Even my PARENTS got rid of theirs, and my dad turns 80 next year! (But seriously, Zoomers with landlines are probably still living with their parents, which also probably means they aren't all that bright or following current events.)

by Anonymousreply 36November 7, 2023 2:26 AM

[quote]Why are so many here putting down the left wing, when the left wing supports gay rights and human rights?

Not sure if you're new here, but DL has long had conservative fuckwads coming out of the woodwork on various occasions, plus it's reasonable to assume a lot of those posts are pure trolling. Also, considering geriatrics trend center-right; millennials trend center-left; and Zoomers trend far-left; that alone should explain the cognitive dissonance between here & the outside world, given DL's median age of 97.

by Anonymousreply 37November 7, 2023 2:29 AM

[quote] Those are uneducated, low information voters

That's 60% of the electorate.

by Anonymousreply 38November 7, 2023 4:19 AM

Before criticising "the uneducated" can we acknowledge the ignorance of staff and students at elite universities?

by Anonymousreply 39November 7, 2023 8:03 AM

They’ve dubbed him Genocide Joe.

by Anonymousreply 40November 7, 2023 8:19 AM

And R35- what kind of Under30's have land-lines? It's not an unrealistic extrapolation that they would belong to a similar Conservative background.

by Anonymousreply 41November 7, 2023 6:27 PM

Tough choices had to be made during the pandemic (remember that?) so that the country wouldn’t descend into an economic death spiral. We’re now living with the consequences of that, which have been ameliorated to some degree by Biden’s economic policies. Maybe Biden could give more context to where we are and why—tell a succinct, compelling story that better sells Bidenomics. And never stop talking about how shitty things were under the former guy.

by Anonymousreply 42November 7, 2023 6:37 PM

Rashida Tlaib is an obnoxious nutcase, not a team player. I've thought that since she said Fuck Hillary.

The far left loonies ALWAYS shoot themselves in the foot. Your protest vote against Biden will only result in Trump 2.0. (See also Ralph Nader and Jill Stein. How did either of their Presidential Administrations work out?)

by Anonymousreply 43November 7, 2023 6:46 PM

Jewish man in California dies after confrontation during Israel-Hamas War protests

Readers added context they thought people might want to know:

Time is neglecting to state the facts. "Jewish man killed in altercation at dueling protests over Israel-Hamas war in California, sheriff and local organizations say The medical examiner ruled Paul Kessler's death a homicide."

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by Anonymousreply 44November 7, 2023 6:53 PM

These people are assholes and morons, and if they refuse to vote for Biden, and Biden loses, they'll deserve everything they get (Muslim Bans, deporting Muslims, violent suppression of any sort of dissent or protest).

The REST of us won't deserve it. But they will.

by Anonymousreply 45November 7, 2023 7:14 PM

They support Palestine because they make their women dress like beekeepers and throw gay men off the roof.

by Anonymousreply 46November 7, 2023 7:23 PM

I'm surprised that even well known progressives like Rashida Tlaib are so vocal in calling out the Biden admin and accusing Biden if genocide. As Bernie said even on his worst day, Biden is 100x better than Trump

by Anonymousreply 47November 7, 2023 7:30 PM

Rashida Tlaib would support Muslim's right to do whatever they want to gays. It's in the Koran!

by Anonymousreply 48November 7, 2023 7:38 PM

What r37 said. Similar to what happened after 9/11, all the cockroaches come out and expose their vile bigotry. Not surprised that a site full of bitter, old, ugly fuckable losers who have been fed a steady diet of pro-Israel propaganda since the 70s/80s (they are old / basically on their death beds after all) would become a racist and Islamophobic cesspool at this time.

by Anonymousreply 49November 7, 2023 9:44 PM

R49, you didn’t state how long you have been willingly fed and have embraced a diet of anti-Israel, anti-Jew propaganda.

by Anonymousreply 50November 7, 2023 9:53 PM

Victoria Ruiz, Manhattan public defender who was captured on camera tearing down posters of hostages kidnapped during Hamas' October 7 terror attack in southern Israel, has resigned.

by Anonymousreply 51November 7, 2023 11:22 PM

[quote]Similar to what happened after 9/11, all the cockroaches come out and expose their vile bigotry.

And with that comment irony drops dead.

by Anonymousreply 52November 8, 2023 12:00 AM

They just wont vote at all

by Anonymousreply 53November 8, 2023 12:08 AM

Although I don’t advocate putting one’s head in the sand, I wouldn’t get too worked up about this segment of liberal voters right now. The election is still a year away. So much can happen between now and then.

by Anonymousreply 54November 8, 2023 12:49 AM

Oh god, Cynthia Nixon is on Joy Reid right now. Whatever she's for, I'm the opposing opinion. There is no one on earth more annoying and exhausting (except maybe Roxane Gay).

by Anonymousreply 55November 8, 2023 12:57 AM

R50, contrary to your schizoid delusions, no one in AMERICA has been fed any steady “diet of anti-Israel, anti-Jew propaganda”. Nearly every institution of power (including the mainstream media) in the USA has been biased toward supporting or at best not being overtly critical of Israel. It has been that way since at least the 70s, and is still obviously case in 2023 with the onslaught of employment “cancellations” in the past month for overly critical comments by candidates or current employees re: Israel (and no, not all of them were supporting terrorism), but nothing re the converse (ie anti Palestinian commentary). That many of those cancellation targets are also part of otherwise relatively untouchable minority groups (eg non-binary, black and lesbian) in 2023, tells you that even the most prominent “progressive” and “liberal” orgs, etc in 2023 know that if there is one topic that is truly a no-go despite the moral stakes or consequences, it’s Israel.

by Anonymousreply 56November 8, 2023 5:58 AM

[quote] Nearly every institution of power (including the mainstream media) in the USA has been biased toward supporting or at best not being overtly critical of Israel.

And this goes back to your belief that the Jews control all institutions of power, right?

by Anonymousreply 57November 8, 2023 7:55 AM

R51, I live near where that took place. I walked through that square the other afternoon. I'm happy to report that a short block away there was a light pole covered with unmarred kidnapped posters. Some of us still have compassion, especially for the victims of the brutal pogrom on October 7th and compassion & empathy for our Jewish neighbors.

by Anonymousreply 58November 8, 2023 10:41 AM

I suppose it's ultimately a threat - ie they hope Biden will change tack and then they'll vote for him.

But if he doesn't, they either won't vote, will spoil their ballot or will vote independent.

Both sides do this kind of thing all the time, though. A common one in the UK at the moment is TERFs angrily saying they won't vote Labour (despite being left wing) because of their stance on trans people.

by Anonymousreply 59November 8, 2023 11:30 AM

Muslim protesters organised yesterday outside Wes Streeting’s office, the gay Labour MP who is currently shadow health secretary. They are calling for him to stand down as an MP because he hasn’t called for a ceasefire.

His majority over the Tories is ‘only’ 5000 votes and Palestinian protesters want him to lose his seat.

by Anonymousreply 60November 8, 2023 11:39 AM

If those protestors followed through and didn't vote for Biden, then they'd be scumbags. But protesting and threatening to vote one way or another is the whole point. That's one way ordinary people persuade elected officials to enact a policy.

by Anonymousreply 61November 8, 2023 11:44 AM

R61 Thing is, individual MPs can't really call for a ceasefire. It has to come from the top and Starmer almost certainly won't do that because of the controversy over Corbyn (and the Labour party back when Corbyn was leader) being anti semitic.

It's a tricky one though, because - despite Labour and Conservative backing Israel continuing the war - much of the public doesn't seem to agree with that, because they see the images coming out of Gaza on social media and think a ceasefire is much needed. If Labour think that feeling is shared by more than 50% of people, they'd be more likely call for a ceasefire, but that's almost certainly not going to happen because they'll get called hateful, anti semitic, Hamas supporters, etc.

It's one of those issues where you'll piss off a large section of the population who will sling mud and names regardless of what side you take. Can't win it really.

by Anonymousreply 62November 8, 2023 11:50 AM

Why aren't they calling for Hamas to lay down their weapons? Why aren't they demanding Hamas release the hostages? Why aren't they screaming for Hamas to turn themselves into The Hauge?

Hamas started this all.

They should take it up with the manager, like true Karens.

by Anonymousreply 63November 8, 2023 11:55 AM

R58 Thank you for using the term pogrom. All of the knee-jerk young people should look at the long history of the slaughter of Jewish people to understand Israel’s reaction in defending itself. Hamas should have surrendered.

by Anonymousreply 64November 8, 2023 12:34 PM

In related news.

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by Anonymousreply 65November 8, 2023 1:19 PM

You're welcome, R64. I've been fascinated by history my entire life and have studied Jewish history, WWII, and the Holocaust extensively. As soon as I started seeing those horrific videos, I understood exactly what it was. I began studying islam and islamic history after 9/11 (which happened in my city and people I knew died, including firemen), so I completely understand what the Israelis, Jews and all of the non-muslim world is facing. It is not a pretty picture. Few see or comprehend the battle that is actually going on, at our peril, but people are starting to tell the truth, more people are starting to see the truth, despite all the shocking anti-semitism we are seeing. Israel is taking the brunt of it at the moment and deserves the support of every person who believes in the values of the west, many of which stem from Judaism.

R58

by Anonymousreply 66November 8, 2023 3:42 PM

R65 I'm 28 but that finding is actually shocking to me....and disturbing

by Anonymousreply 67November 8, 2023 4:00 PM

All emotions at r63 and zero logic or objectivity. “They started this wahhhh!!!!”

by Anonymousreply 68November 8, 2023 4:03 PM

R65 I believe that. There's lots of ignorant people hollering and writing nonsense online who should STFU and read the truth. It's frustrating for us who don't deal in their subjective reality and know the facts.

by Anonymousreply 69November 8, 2023 4:07 PM

R68? Have a seat. R63 is absolutely correct.

by Anonymousreply 70November 9, 2023 1:04 AM

R70? Go get pushed off a roof by Hamas. You’re a moron just like r63.

by Anonymousreply 71November 9, 2023 6:05 AM

R71, I get the feeling you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Why are you defending Hamas and then apparently attacking them?

Maybe your reading comprehension level is zero. But I think you're deeply confused.

I'm not a moron. Neither is R63. Hamas it the problem. You seem to recognize that in the first part of your reply, but then you go on to attack those pointing out Hamas is the problem, so you make ZERO sense.

by Anonymousreply 72November 9, 2023 7:09 PM

R72, wtf are you on about with your useless word salad, you low IQ dipshit? “Well, X shouldn’t have started it!” isn’t how any rational, logical and fully sane person would assess what is currently going on in Gaza. And thankfully neither the criminal laws / penal codes of any civilized society nor international law generally follow that juvenile and inane “logic”.

by Anonymousreply 73November 10, 2023 6:29 AM

"Civilians with white flags trying evacuate from northern Gaza but are immediately fired upon by Hamas terrorists.

These are the people that are defended by those protesters out marching every Saturday in London, Berlin and Washington D.C."

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by Anonymousreply 74November 10, 2023 1:40 PM

"Palestinian civilians fleeing from northern Gaza tell journalists that the Hamas leadership which sits in safety in Qatar “have destroyed Gaza” and that “they are traitors”.

These people lost their homes due to Hamas"

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by Anonymousreply 75November 10, 2023 1:42 PM

The Hanas leaders wear expensive suits and live far from danger.

by Anonymousreply 76November 10, 2023 1:44 PM

The Palestinian people should give Israel the locations of every Hamas terrorist. Get rid of that scum once and for all.

by Anonymousreply 77November 10, 2023 2:23 PM

My, R73 (et al) is a fucking moron.

Go sit down, child.

by Anonymousreply 78November 10, 2023 2:44 PM

"Horrific pictures coming out of Gaza right now.

Civilians are trying to leave the northern zone and go south.

However, Hamas opened fire on them to stop their attempt. They want human shields to protect them."

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by Anonymousreply 79November 10, 2023 3:31 PM

I'm so confused.

The Jihadi Brocialists been quite insistent that the term "human shield" is false and has no relation to Hamas' relationship with Palestinians.

Surely R79's video must be doctored.

by Anonymousreply 80November 10, 2023 3:54 PM

One or another tax and bomb president. That’s all we get to choose from. The two party system is owned by the corporations might as well vote for Chevron or Apple.

by Anonymousreply 81November 10, 2023 3:56 PM

You seem lost, R81. Were you attempting to make a point about Gaza?

by Anonymousreply 82November 10, 2023 4:01 PM

R81 is a fucking moron who has no clue what is going on or how anything works.

by Anonymousreply 83November 10, 2023 6:42 PM

"Check out this Hamas footage. How many of the combatants are in uniform while fighting the IDF? None. When they'll meet their maker, how do you think the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry will describe them? You're right: "civilians". Another reason to question everything they say."

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by Anonymousreply 84November 11, 2023 1:12 AM

They’re got their precious grifter Jill Stein to vote for again.

by Anonymousreply 85November 11, 2023 1:15 AM

Exactly, that's the genius of the American two party system. Your vote doesn't matter, the result is completely the same in a fake one party state. Don't vote, vote, doesn't matter in the least when it comes to American foreign policy. It's all the same policy.

by Anonymousreply 86November 11, 2023 1:15 AM

"Compilation video of the people from Gaza saying that they have had enough of Hamas rule.

These were recorded before the war but the sentiment has only strengthen since."

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by Anonymousreply 87November 11, 2023 1:20 AM

The people that were in this video protesting against Hamas were probably already thrown off rooftops.

by Anonymousreply 88November 11, 2023 1:22 AM

"Excited but mostly peaceful protesters enthusiastically knock on the doors of Grand Central Station in NYC in order to hold a debate about the history of Israel with the police officers who have sheltered inside to avoid discussing this difficult topic."

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by Anonymousreply 89November 11, 2023 10:11 AM

This English lady wouldn't vote for Biden if she lived in the US

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by Anonymousreply 90November 11, 2023 10:17 AM

^^^that ain't no lady.

Where the terrorist wannabes at R89 trying to invade Grand Central? Shouldn't they be arrested? It pisses me the fuck off watching them kick those wooden, retro doors. They are actually very attractive.

by Anonymousreply 91November 11, 2023 11:13 AM

R89 "protesters enthusiastically knock on the doors of Grand Central Station in NYC in order to hold a debate "

Sounds like the warped explanation of what happened on January 6 2021.

by Anonymousreply 92November 11, 2023 2:29 PM

[quote][R89] "protesters enthusiastically knock on the doors of Grand Central Station in NYC in order to hold a debate " Sounds like the warped explanation of what happened on January 6 2021.

The correct response to the January 6th insurrection means the law enforcement agencies have to get the response to the current "protests" spot on.

That the January 6th protests were done by "patriots" and the current protests are by supporters of a foreign country means the grievance will fester and get stronger.

by Anonymousreply 93November 11, 2023 2:57 PM

Are you beginning to understand why no-one, not a single Muslim country wants to deal with these people?

by Anonymousreply 94November 11, 2023 3:04 PM

But they do want to use the Israel-Palestinian conflict as an ongoing cudgel.

by Anonymousreply 95November 11, 2023 3:08 PM

R86 is a fucking moron who has no clue how anything works or why and absolutely nobody should listen to anything they have to say, ever.

by Anonymousreply 96November 11, 2023 4:02 PM

At the London protest today.

If it wasn't for the green and red letters I'd think she was a nazi.

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by Anonymousreply 97November 11, 2023 4:45 PM

Eva Braun here

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by Anonymousreply 98November 11, 2023 4:46 PM

Portraying two British Asian politicians as coconuts because they're brown on the outside, white on the inside, or race traitors

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by Anonymousreply 99November 11, 2023 4:47 PM

Holy shit! That sign at R98 is really fucked up. That dumb White bitch is all ideology and no brain; smug and proud of her profound stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 100November 12, 2023 5:37 PM

From the roof to the street! Palestine will be gay free!

by Anonymousreply 101November 12, 2023 5:38 PM

I just saw on X that the London Metropolitan Police are asking people to provide the name of the woman in the photo at R98.

I don't understand UK speech laws but I guess being offensive is verboten.

by Anonymousreply 102November 12, 2023 9:33 PM

The woman with the Swastika/Star of David poster has been identified and was a member of the Labour Party but kicked out because of antisemitism.

The UK has had an "incitement to racial hatred" law for nearly 50 years and includes:

- deliberately provoking hatred of a racial group

- distributing racist material to the public

- making inflammatory public speeches

- creating racist websites on the Internet

- inciting inflammatory rumours about an individual or an ethnic group, for the purpose of spreading racial discontent.

It's not a controversial law.

by Anonymousreply 103November 12, 2023 9:41 PM

R102 Frankly, I wish the US would follow suit. It may have helped prevent some of our darkest moments in history.

by Anonymousreply 104November 12, 2023 9:45 PM

This is an example of hate speech laws being used to prosecute.

A lot of people would just say "freedom of speech" but this was incitement.

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by Anonymousreply 105November 12, 2023 10:05 PM

And another one

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by Anonymousreply 106November 12, 2023 10:07 PM

R105, that is clearly incitement. He would be arrested in the US, and rightfully so.

by Anonymousreply 107November 14, 2023 2:40 AM

R107 Amateurs!

by Anonymousreply 108November 14, 2023 2:57 AM

R104, I’m sure you’d be saying the same thing when those same laws are used to prosecute your fellow anti-trans agitators, correct?

UK’s hate speech laws are complete garbage and antithetical to democracy. The US has many flaws but this is one area where the UK cannot claim any moral superiority. Thank goodness for the First Amendment.

by Anonymousreply 109November 14, 2023 2:28 PM

Another screening by Israeli authorities for foreign journalists. Here’s what we saw and heard:

1: Two dead women lying on the grass at musical festival - both with no pants on. One has her panties taken half off. The other doesn’t appear to have any on at all.

2: Eyewitness describing how she saw a woman being raped by several Hamas terrorists, pulling her hair as they raped her and took turns. One of them cut her breasts off - the others played with them like a toy. The last terrorist to rape her shot her in the head and continued to rape her until her finished. Eyewitness also says some terrorists were carrying heads in their hands (beheaded) as trophies, saying there wasn’t a thing the didn’t do to the heads. She also saw a Hamas terrorist carrying a naked girl over his shoulder.

3: Police say they are still gathering evidence (DNA etc) from rape victims in addition to eyewitnesses to build the strongest case possible.

4: 18 people from the music festival are in psychiatric hospitals, according to police.

5: And for those wondering why police aren’t releasing graphic video and photo documentation to the entire world; out of respect for the victims. It’s an ongoing investigation. Releasing evidence in cases like this to the public is not custom anyhow.

by Anonymousreply 110November 14, 2023 4:00 PM

JFC r110. Absolute savages.

by Anonymousreply 111November 14, 2023 4:17 PM

I just saw a video on Twitter of the aftermath of the Nova music festival attack.

The young people hid in a bomb shelter and grenades were thrown in. Hamas pulled out those who were still alive with limbs blown off and put them on a truck to take as hostages.

This was of course filmed and shared by Hamas who want the world to know what they did to Jews.

by Anonymousreply 112November 14, 2023 4:25 PM

People are saying this to put pressure on the administration to pursue a moral course on Israel (for a change).

Unfortunately there are a million issues of interest to Americans and Israeli apartheid is just one of them. (And this fact is heavily exploited by Zionists.) But we also have gun control, climate change, women’s reproductive rights, gay rights, freedom from religious dominance, and workers/consumer rights to worry about.

And the elephant in the room: the war on representative government and small-d democracy being carried out by an increasingly thuggish Republican Party and wannabe rightwing strongman Donald Trump.

So anyone who doesn’t vote, or votes for Stein or Kennedy, is actually voting — for Trump. If people don’t vote FOR Biden, then frankly they deserve what they get.

by Anonymousreply 113November 14, 2023 4:33 PM

And at the end of the video they bring out a young girl, seemingly uninjured.

A man says: “No, no, this is ‘sabiyya’ [captive sex slave]… leave her.”

by Anonymousreply 114November 14, 2023 4:38 PM

Israel is not an apartheid state.

There is no genocide going on in Gaza.

Stop using histrionic and inflammatory rhetoric. It's not helping. Words have meanings and definitions. You debase and dishonor the REAL apartheids and genocides going on in the world, just to feed your gross anti-Semitism.

by Anonymousreply 115November 14, 2023 6:54 PM

"That said, even *I* don't get why KKK types are more pissy about Jews than Muslims. Is it just because they're mostly white?"

Yep. Just for the same reason that "progressives" are pro Palestine, because they perceive them as POC and Jews as white.

Both racist, just in opposite direction, one detest the darker skin, the other hate pale, but it is just nuances, otherwise they are the same.

by Anonymousreply 116November 14, 2023 9:28 PM

The KKK and Nation Of Islam are very similar in their theocracy.

Both KK and Nation of Islam favour racial segregation, for example.

They hate each other but they bond over their hatred of Jews.

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by Anonymousreply 117November 14, 2023 9:38 PM

"geriatrics trend center-right; millennials trend center-left; and Zoomers trend far-left"

Not true, only upper middle class Zoomers trend "far-left" or rather neoliberal identitarian left, but it will only last until they finish school and become bankers.

Otherwise, young males are becoming more conservative.

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by Anonymousreply 118November 14, 2023 9:42 PM

R117 Just like the Hamastikas and the Black Hebrew Israelites. A couple of weeks ago in Chicago they were both standing on opposite sides of the street throwing bottles at each other and raging out. It's like they were duking it out over who the most legitimate Jew-haters were. I was just praying some Neo-Nazis would roll up so they could all fight to the death.

by Anonymousreply 119November 14, 2023 9:46 PM

"Not surprised that a site full of bitter, old, ugly fuckable losers who have been fed a steady diet of pro-Israel propaganda since the 70s/80s (they are old / basically on their death beds after all) would become a racist and Islamophobic cesspool at this time."

R49 So much hatred and anger for the ones that are on their death beds. What happened, was daddy bad in bed so that he made you hate oldies so much?

by Anonymousreply 120November 14, 2023 9:54 PM

"Portraying two British Asian politicians as coconuts because they're brown on the outside, white on the inside, or race traitors"

Are white liberals race traitors, too?

by Anonymousreply 121November 14, 2023 10:09 PM

[quote]Not surprised that a site full of bitter, old, ugly fuckable losers who have been fed a steady diet of pro-Israel propaganda since the 70s/80s

Thanks doll! Turns out us boomers are quite fuckable.

Oh, you meant unfuckable.

Oh well it's just like "genocide", it means whatever you want it to mean right?

Hoping you idiot children at some point pull your heads out of your precious butts and start reading material on the middle east not found on troll farm posts on Instagram. Perhaps then you'll find out that words like "genocide" and "apartheid" and "colonialism" aren't shorthand for "things I don't like" - those words actually have real meaning in the real world.

by Anonymousreply 122November 14, 2023 11:50 PM

R122 fuckable is Freudian sleep.

Being so hateful and use such heavy slurs against people who, by pure case, have been born a few decades before him (imagine if instead of old age it stood black race).

It must be daddy issues. Whether daddy was bad or to good in bed I don't know.

by Anonymousreply 123November 15, 2023 12:03 AM

R122, “children”? lol sorry, “doll” - I’m actually in my late 30s with a professional career. I live in the middle of Manhattan and make good money. I’m the product of immigrants who came to America with truly next to nothing, and I’ve worked since I was 15 years old. Put myself through undergrad and law school, and had to prove myself 5x over than the spoon-fed entitled asshats I was surrounded by in every academic or professional setting post-HS. Far from a child, and probably much more accomplished and have assumed far more real-world responsibilities than yourself at your elderly age. Maybe I struck a nerve 😐

And contrary to your delusions, age in and of itself does not bring wisdom. Far from it. Your average American boomer (including the boomer fags like yourself) is a fucking moron when it comes to anything related to the Middle East.

So please tell us, Oh Wise ElderGay, what makes you so much more qualified to speak about this particular topic than the “children” (read: anyone younger than me, especially anyone that I cannot fuck) you deride? Could you please tell us your relevant academic / scholarly qualifications? Studying Laura Ingraham’s rotten asshole doesn’t count, FYI.

R123? Why are you so obsessed with daddy-son sex? Ever heard of something called “projection”? Suggest you bring it up at your next (and very much needed) psychotherapy sesh.

by Anonymousreply 124November 15, 2023 5:37 AM

R120 is more outraged over a comment about boomers on this site than the 57 million comments in the last month explicitly advocating outright death / genocide / displacement of Palestinians.

by Anonymousreply 125November 15, 2023 5:43 AM

R124 you can't say that I am obsessed over something that I mentioned only in your case. If you know about projection than you could think why all this hateful anger towards old people, what emotions are you projecting on them. Must be something connected to older members of your family, you don't have to be Freud to realize it has something to do with daddy.

by Anonymousreply 126November 15, 2023 6:40 AM

[quote], “children”? lol sorry, “doll” - I’m actually in my late 30s with a professional career. I live in the middle of Manhattan and make good money

And I'll flip fuck you all night.

by Anonymousreply 127November 15, 2023 7:02 AM

R127 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 128November 15, 2023 1:04 PM

R127 you'll never be as good as daddy

by Anonymousreply 129November 15, 2023 1:06 PM

I will never understand why gay men would advocate for Palestinians, who would kill them and toss them off a building without a thought, over Israel, the oasis of LGBT rights in the region. It's mind-boggling.

by Anonymousreply 130November 15, 2023 2:22 PM

I agree r130. Palestinians would hang all of us on a tree if they could. They are no friend to gays.

There are cultures and societies in this world that are absolutely brutal and Medieval but we're not supposed to call them out for being savages because that would be "racist."

by Anonymousreply 131November 15, 2023 6:30 PM

[quote]And contrary to your delusions, age in and of itself does not bring wisdom.

Neither does being a raging cunt, but you do you.

by Anonymousreply 132November 16, 2023 12:24 AM

The United States should never have recognized the so-called "state" of Israel.

by Anonymousreply 133February 9, 2024 6:45 PM

You've posted that in at least three threads now. Don't be tedious, dear.

by Anonymousreply 134February 9, 2024 6:49 PM

F&F that antisemitic troll at R133 and every thread he spams with his bullshit

by Anonymousreply 135February 9, 2024 6:51 PM

R37 you are completelly ignorant, only small subset of zoomers trend "far left", upper and upper middle class and middle class girls. Male zoomers from working and middle class trend very conservative and right. Boys from gen alpha even more.

Boys think left is cringey and non masculine.

by Anonymousreply 136February 9, 2024 7:16 PM

This is to excuse, however, the shameful and inexcusable way in which the U.S. neglected to take in Jews during the war.

by Anonymousreply 137February 9, 2024 9:41 PM

NOT to excuse

by Anonymousreply 138February 9, 2024 9:45 PM
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