Rome is very dirty

Huge African hornets? Is that a metaphor or something

Not a metaphor.

I guess they'll have to make screened-in terraces.

[quote]“This year we have seen more Queen oriental hornets, who are mating with males perhaps from other colonies.

God, the queens are whores too. Awful species.

There are lots of insects from that continent flooding there

One more reason Europe is now a shithole

They're called oriental hornets, OP. And yes, they can be frightful.

I thought city services in Rome, eg. garbage removal, have been chronically underfunded.

Rome is a very dirty city. Sad.

I've heard that Naples and Palermo are even worse. And I will be going to all these places over the holidays...

Italians in general have a trash problem, I'm from the neighbouring country and it's a shock to the system when you cross the border and see all the garbage everywhere on their highways. Filthy people.

She’s a dirty, dirty girl.

This it ever was.

They won’t even wash their bits!

Isn't trash collection in Southern Italy (don't know about Rome) basically all mobbed up?

Yes, R15.

Italian bottoms are filthy

According to the Encyclopedia of DL: Eyetalians’ holes are clean as a whistle, due to their Mediterranean diet.

Don't Italians use bidets?

Rome has always been filthy and vandalized with graffiti.

[quote]God, the queens are whores too.

Just like on DL.

[quote]Rome has always been filthy and vandalized with graffiti.

I lived there for six months in 1980, and returned for the first time in 2017. The graffiti was FAR worse then.

Rome is not very amusing right now…you understand?

R23, Italians love to etch their romances, grievances, and opinions in public places. Graffiti (more commonly associated with urban cities) is the result.

Piles and mounds of trash everywhere

R10, I hope you report back.

R26, and that's just Donatella Versace!

[quote] more commonly associated with urban cities

🤡

R25 so Rome is not an urban city? Get me the copy desk for a re-write. WTF

Is it cleaner in the countryside?

I was just in Rome and Palermo last month and neither seemed particularly dirty to me.

It seems that the parts of Rome popular with tourists are reasonably clean.

Rome, Italy. Rome nasty...

I loved Palermo. It wasn't dirty.

OP prefers the soulless sterility of his native Flyoverstan.

I was in Turin last year, it was lovely.

Stealth “I was in _________ only last spring” thread.

R2 “the pain was tremendous.”

[quote] Rome is very dirty

Good thing that right-wing WHORE they elected to lead their country is more worried about the "dirty" gays, rather than the dirty streets.

Italians deserve her and they deserve their filth.

Fucking dumb cunts.

“Graffiti” is an Italian word. They invented it.

My company keeps on hiring these hornets from god knows where. Their English is suspect and they don’t understand sarcasm.

That's nice, R41. Buildings covered in graffiti are still an eyesore.

Sylvia Poggioli… Rome!

Every major city in Europe has a certain smell. Athens was worse than Rome. Paris was a little better and London was too. This was 20 years ago so I'm sure it's worse everywhere. Even in my city there has been a horrific sewer scent, maybe homeless leaving their poopies outside.

R42 “Why you say the words and laugh? In Old Country, we keep sad look!”

I hear pussy is vile over there too

Italian cinema really fell off in the last couple of decades.

[quote]‘Excruciating’ hornet sting leaves Rome dinner party guest on crutches as plague spreads.

OMG, if only Stephen Sondheim had lived to see that headline as inspiration for his unfinished dinner-party musical.

The main thing I remember about my only visit to Naples was that plethora of graffiti. I've never seen such coverage. It made the city look disgusting. Have they still not gotten control over that situation?

I think Rome and Naples have had a problem with graffiti for a long time and it's not going away anytime soon. I imagine things are better in wealthier cities like Milan.

R51 and you’d be wrong about that. It’s all over Milan. There’s graffiti in every city and town in Italy. They invented it!

Well then, they really don't care about it. If they did, they'd crack down on graffiti "artists".

Graffiti is art.

Most beautiful art I've ever seen 🙄.

Graffiti is crap.

So is a your cunt, OP!

A dirty Rome is more bellissima than a spotless anywhere else.

and that's the way we like it.

Eh, VAFFANCULO Giuseppe/R57!

Rome is chaotic. Rome can be dirty. Italians aren’t as friendly as you think. Romana can be racist. And being gay here feels like 1995 USA.

But

It’s Rome.

It’s beautiful.

And the men are gorgeous. Especially any policeman. The uniforms alone. Jesus fuck.

Time for me to tap in. I lived in Rome for two and half years and I JUST moved to Florence about four months ago. The garbage in Rome can be out of control. It's one of the most annoying things about living there (besides the hills). It's annoying because it just makes NO sense. I do believe there is someone (the mob) benefiting from it being that way. In Italy in general the garbage cans are communal, not individual per building and separated - general, glass, plastic/metal, and bio. At first I wasn't used to it, but I grew to like it because it meant there was no garage in individual buildings piling up. The problem in Rome is that they don't always pick up the garbage on schedule from these spots and restaurants AND residents use them. So one day skipped can look like a war zone. As well Rome doesn't have enough trash cans in general. As a responsible citizen, I would want to throw something in the trash but I would have to walk two or three blocks to find a garbage can - and they aren't big enough to accommodate. So one person would give up and put their gelato cup on a ledge, and before you know it there are 20 gelato cups there.

The crazy thing is given how garbage piles up and how ancient and cavernous the city under the city is, there are very few if any rats. NOTHING compared to NYC where you see rats everywhere, in colonies. To be honest, I would put up with garbage everywhere over fear of rat infestations. When I lived in NYC I saw rats every single day. I can count on both hands the number of times I saw rats in two years in Rome. Oddly enough the seagulls feed on them, eat them whole. As aggressive and annoying as the seagulls can be I thanked them for their service.

It's a general consensus amongst Italians that Rome is the beginning of the breakdown of the country to the south. Further north, garbage isn't an issue. Further north the mob has less a a stranglehold over city services I would imagine. People tend to forget how far north Italy actually goes with parts basically German speaking. And that begins in Florence. Florence isn't filty in Centro or the outskirts. It is a well managed city. The garbage bins in the center part of town are underground, so they aren't an eyesore. They look like post office boxes that you open up and drop your garbage into. Florence is a very well run city AND the mayor is super cool, look him up, Dario Nardella. Actually I really love Florence.

The graffiti never bothered me. It is actually an Italian word that means "Scratches" and it's an ancient tradition that dates back thousands of years to Ancient Rome. And it can be everywhere in Rome. Although there is a respect that Italians are raised with where you won't see graffiti on ancient walls or buildings. I think it actually looks cool and adds a textured look juxtaposed next to something ancient - especially in parts like Trastevere. I think the only people who REALLY have a problem with it are people from small towns traveling here who are used to pristine IHOPs and Walmarts - who equate graffiti with urban decay. That's not the case here. And most people from large cities can appreciate it.

And I don't mind it because even Rome and Florence, Italy in general, are very much on top of the building upkeep, private and public. If you step back and take look, each city has a distinct color palette for the buildings that they strictly maintain. You might think things are lax, but when you look at it, there is a harmony to the overall beauty that is strictly guarded. You will not see a Red building or a Blue building really ever in Rome, or green, no vibrant colors. It's this color palette of buttery yellows, salmon colors, beige and white. When you realize this and how hard they work to maintain it, the graffiti isn't a thing - you understand it's not a loss of control but a part of the overall plan, look and feel.

Was DL fave Olivia de Havilland in Rome to warn the school children about the oncoming swarm of bees?

Don't worry, OP. I'm on my way to Rome right now!

And going back to the graffiti, the difference here is that it's not menacing. People may find it dirty, but the city is not dangerous. I'd trade "dirty" for dangerous any day. I can walk from one end of the city to another and never feel unsafe, no matter the time of day. I've never been accosted or threatened or felt unsafe - and that's even walking home through what look like sketchy areas at 1am in the morning. And you don't see it happening to other people. You get used to it and it's something that I continually have to remind myself of when I come back to America - you are not as safe as you think you are. I have to put my armour up as soon as I land.

Agree with R62 and R65. Rome has a problem with trash, at times worse than others. It has lots of graffiti. And it remains a stunningly beautiful and amazing city. Trash and all, no city is so beautiful, can surprise so much, none other feels so much the center of the universe and that a lifetime there could only begin to scratch the surface.

I like my cities a bit gritty and a little chaotic (just a little...not like India-level chaos). Zurich, Pyongyang, and Minsk are clean (from what I hear), but would I want to spend much time in those places? Certainly not.

R10 WAHHH Over the holidays, I'm going to dirty Rome. WAHHH

She's a little confused:

Froy / Zane 3 Froy froy froy

Froy / Zane 3 Friesland fucked Renfro

Rome is very dirty Dirty assed city. Urban trash galore. Huge African hornets taking up residence killing people as a result.

Rome is very dirty They won’t even wash their bits!

Rome is very dirty Piles and mounds of trash everywhere

Rome is very dirty I hear pussy is vile over there too

How to sound old in five words or less. Op in your case words aren’t necessary

Are some women really into anal? Open your eyes

Sex with guys at work/in their professional capacity Why did you rape me??

Four Los Angeles sheriff's officials found dead in apparent suicides R8 only in your brain dead mind

Four Los Angeles sheriff's officials found dead in apparent suicides R84 NOT FUNNY ASSHOLE!

Gays, REJOICE! An All-Black version of “The Golden Girls” is happening! Fuck em

How does it make you feel when you start a thread and no one responds? I really don’t give a shit because I forget about it after I post a thread most of the time.

Op are you the troll who starts Three’s Company (and the actors from the show) threads and replies to himself almost exclusively??

How does it make you feel when you start a thread and no one responds? R13 I am unpleasant at times but my question wasn’t.

How does it make you feel when you start a thread and no one responds? Bitch on outside

Nice on inside

How does it make you feel when you start a thread and no one responds? Dorothy, how do you feel?

Like a fool. Like a damned fool.

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When it comes to Rome you have to consider it’s been a major city for over 2500 years. At its height 2000 years ago it had a population of over 1 million people - so larger than most American cities today. It has been a major city ever since with a dip through the dark ages. So there is a sense that no matter what the world is going through, Rome will always be there. They are not too concerned with keeping up with the latest. They let other places figure that out and adopt what works. It may take a generation. But the one thing you do sense there is there is always time.

[quote] This year we have seen more Queen oriental hornets, who are mating with males perhaps from other colonies

Careful, MAGATS may use this as an argument against mixed marriages…😏😏

[quote]People may find it dirty, but the city is not dangerous. I'd trade "dirty" for dangerous any day. I can walk from one end of the city to another and never feel unsafe, no matter the time of day.

What about Tor Bella Monaca at 3 am, R65?

I couldn’t tell you R72. I never went there.

R72 I pretty much walked everywhere I need to go when I lived in Rome. And that covered a huge portion of the city all around - from Pigneto to Prati, from Garbetella up to the Maxi. Tor Bella Monaca is about 10 miles outside the city. I never went there.

Lol, R74. Just having a bit of fun being a contrarian. I'm sure Rome is very safe.

What R62 says. Veritas.

[quote]So there is a sense that no matter what the world is going through, Rome will always be there. They are not too concerned with keeping up with the latest. They let other places figure that out and adopt what works. It may take a generation. But the one thing you do sense there is there is always time.

Rome's nickname is "the eternal city".

This is a 5 hour walking tour of Rome.

It covers miles of the city. As you can see, Rome is cleaner and more orderly than US cities.

I have to laugh at Americans...you've got homeless everywhere, tents, druggies. Have you been to S.F. lately? Philadelphia? Have you seen the miles of tents in L.A.? And you are talking about Rome? Rome is glorious.

A walking tour of Rome at night.

Splendid.

[quote]Florence is a very well run city AND the mayor is super cool, look him up, Dario Nardella. Actually I really love Florence.

Nardella has been very good. I'd vote for him.

But man, some of the others before him in the Partito Democratico....Leonardo Domenici especially...ran the city into the ground. Florence was a mess. It is a completely different place now.

Unfortunately the center long ago lost that intellectual/aristocrat/working class vibe the city once had. BUT at least things have been restored, cleaned. Quaint traditional shops have been replaced with hundreds of luxury boutiques but the city does look good. Way too many tourists but that's the price you pay today with cheap airfares and social media. Florence is so "Instagram worthy".

Philadelphia is a Rust Belt city, R78.

Should read: "working class"

R81 Oh, OK then let's compare Capitals.

Washington DC had 203 homicides in 2022.

203 Homicides in a city of a little over 700,000 people.

I don't have the figures for Rome, but in all of Italy in 2022 there were 319 homicides. In a country of 60 million.

You figure it out.

Americans love their guns, R83. And in Washington D.C., there are a lot of very poor minorities in certain parts of the city --- gang members fighting, drug deals gone bad, people with big drug debts are executed, ie. the usual.

I'm assuming it's very hard for the average Italian to get a hand gun.

Georgetown in Washington D.C. is safe and very nice. Just sayin'

R62 - The reason you don't see any rats in Rome is because of the cats. There's a lot of stray cats in Rome. We saw a many back in 2001. I was only there for a night on my way back this year and I don't recall seeing any. I spent two weeks on the Amalfi Coast this summer. Garbage wasn't an issue.

You want to see graffiti? Go to Athens.

^ My town in Italy has authorized cat colonies, registered and protected. The cat ladies care for them with food.

A cat in my town is a local star. Lives at a book shop but walks around town. Everyone knows her.

About Italy and cats.

Thanks R87 - I meant to link to an article. I copied the link and then forgot.

[quote] Nardella has been very good. I'd vote for him.

Here Nardella, mid-interview, stops a climate activist spray painting the side of the Palazzo Vecchio. He is in the brown leather jacket screaming “Che cazzo fai?!?” What the fuck are you doing?!?

Nardella just banned all new airbnbs in Florence as a first step to address residents cries for affordable housing. He might roleback current ones with regulations on short term stays.

My favorite is that he invited the Principle from Florida who got fired over the David Statue controversy to Florence and gave her a special recognition from the city.

“Mistaking art for pornography is simply ridiculous", Nardella wrote on Twitter, adding: "I will personally invite the teacher to Florence to give her a recognition on behalf of the city. Art is civilisation and whoever teaches it deserves respect."

[quote]“Mistaking art for pornography is simply ridiculous", Nardella wrote on Twitter, adding: "I will personally invite the teacher to Florence to give her a recognition on behalf of the city. Art is civilisation and whoever teaches it deserves respect."

Good for Nardella.

But this is what idiot Matteo Renzi did when the Iranian president visited Rome. Typical of the Italian left.

Renzi BTW was the mayor of Florence before Nardella.

Even governments are woke?

Jesus. This world.

They are statues of the human body. They are not racist. They are not anti religious. They are ancient beautiful sculptures of who we are.

The fact they were covered?

MARY!

Agreed, R90. How fucking idiotic -- and self-hating. As some reasonable (and yet more than generous) measure of deference, they might have scheduled any photo ops for a more architectural, less figural backdrop. There are a few spaces and blank or simply columned walls in Rome that would do.

[quote] Italians love to etch their romances, grievances, and opinions in public places. Graffiti (more commonly associated with urban cities) is the result.

It seems to be an ancient tradition - even emperors and their entourage left graffiti, such as on the Colossi of Memnon in Egypt when Hadrian visited way back in AD 130.

[quote]Every major city in Europe has a certain smell. Athens was worse than Rome. Paris was a little better and London was too. This was 20 years ago so I'm sure it's worse everywhere. Even in my city there has been a horrific sewer scent, maybe homeless leaving their poopies outside.

Don't go to third world countries. For example, I stayed in Taroudant in Morocco for about a week and it smelt like an open sewer every time I went outside. Meanwhile I don't notice any kind of smell in European countries so I'm surprised to hear this (admittedly, I may be used to it).

Shanghai smells like sweet sulfurous shit.

R10 Palermo is fine, she sends her love. But no, really. I've been going there for 40 years and it's much cleaner than it used to be. That doesn't mean all is well though. The most heartbreaking loss, for me, is that the sea has changed. It's pretty lifeless now.

The old parts of Rome are beautiful even with graffiti but I didn’t like Naples as much. From my observation the tiny garbage trucks they use in the city can’t possibly keep up with all of the mess daily.

[quote] I stayed in Taroudant in Morocco for about a week and it smelt like an open sewer every time I went outside. Meanwhile I don't notice any kind of smell in European countries so I'm surprised to hear this

That's because you're a racist, colonial cunt who LITERALLY thinks his shit doesn't stink.

[quote]I've heard that Naples and Palermo are even worse.

Oh yeah, Palermo is just horrible! Mounds of garbage everywhere!

(Some of the comments here are so dumb. Do you ever leave your trailer park?)

Don't worry. No matter how dirty Rome gets there are a ton of boys just like this to help clean up the place. They are all over.

“Dirty assed city”?

Dirty assed city NASTY!

I'd love to know where R100 lives.

[quote]I'd love to know where R100 lives.

Camden, New Jersey