‘Bad and dangerous’: Argentina’s Trump on track to become president
A face only an anarcho-capitalist mother could love.
[quote]A foul-mouthed, far-right populist who has been described as a cross between Boris Johnson and the killer doll Chucky is in pole position to become president of South America’s second-largest economy. If elected on Sunday, populist Javier Milei vows to abolish central bank, loosen gun laws, legalise sale of human organs.
And how on earth is that perpetually failed country South America's second-largest economy? Christ, what an utter failure of a continent.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 20, 2023 8:46 PM
Didn't Ecuador just elect a right-of-center president? And he's very young, too.
South America be politiically bipolar.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||October 23, 2023 2:27 PM
People with views different than Milei’s have failed miserably in Argentina. It’s not surprising that voters would want to change course.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||October 23, 2023 2:54 PM
r2 Centre-right is one thing, but this Milei guy is something else. It sucks that it's either him or another Peronist to choose from, Argentinians seemingly can't stop fucking themselves over.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||October 23, 2023 2:55 PM
Yep. Argentina has never recovered since the Perons destroyed it seventy years ago.
The musical EVITA is a cautionary tale, not a love letter to the woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||October 23, 2023 3:15 PM
In the early 20th century, Argentina was super rich and on its way to becoming a superpower... but then Juan and Evita Peron came along.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||October 23, 2023 3:16 PM
Screw the middle classes!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||October 23, 2023 3:20 PM
You get the government you deserve.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||October 23, 2023 3:24 PM
It's not as simple as that, although they got the ball rolling. Overall, state hyperinterference in the economy has characterized Argentina since the 1950s, with a few excursions into military dictatorship. Currency mismanagement and crises in the last forty years piled in. 40% of the people live in poverty. Inflation is around 100%. It's a massive exporter of grain, crippled by drought the last few years. The political will doesn't exist to break the back of the problem. It is probably the most fucked up country, economically, on the planet, despite being the 2nd biggest economy in South America. It has spent more time in recession since the 1950s than any other country with an advanced economy. It's quite sad, really.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||October 23, 2023 3:25 PM
First round winner was Economic Minister Sergio Massa.
Looks like they'll still go to a runoff in November. Sucks that Argentina has had so many corrupt governments that they'd consider such a psycho pig.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||October 23, 2023 3:25 PM
Argentina has always had a penchant for Nazis.
They all flocked there after WW2.
I never did understand why, until now.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||October 23, 2023 3:27 PM
His teeth are frightening.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||October 23, 2023 3:29 PM
R12 Looks like he chews on gravel with those worn to a point chompers. Disgusting and ill-kempt.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||October 23, 2023 3:36 PM
The sure sign that he’s crazy, as has been his predecessors, is that he believes the Falkland Islands belong to Argentina. That’s a good test to know whether or not Argentina has matured enough to want to live in the real world, by showing they acknowledge that they don’t own the Falklands and they are not going to.
He’s suggested a different approach toward the Falklands, but he still claims Argentina has sovereignty.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||October 23, 2023 3:37 PM
My first encounter with people from Uruguay and Argentina was anything but positive. Snotty and annoyingly eccentric. My shipmate was married to a woman from Uruguay. She and her sisters were obnoxious especially after they had a few drinks. They had a gay friend from Argentina who would brag about his surgery to repair his anus after some rough sex with a trick…my friend and his wife eventually got divorced after he tried to kill her after she called him the N word. She married a black man and called him that. He was an asshole though and very much a bully. But what a crew. One of the sisters was dating a guy in the Saudi Arabian Navy and she beat him with her shoes whenever she was drunk, which was often. The other sister was married to a hot older man who was nice. She bragged about their house in Los Angeles (he was attached to the entertainment industry somehow) and their cars and trips and was extremely materialistic. They’d fight amongst themselves and end up crying and hugging each other and promised they’d never fight again…until the next time.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||October 23, 2023 3:53 PM
Argentinians are arrogant people, with no reason to be arrogant.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||October 23, 2023 3:57 PM
r6 Erm, no, Argentina's residence in the shitter started after WWI when foreign investment dried up, twenty years before Perón came to power. He simply continued the tradition of corruption the Argentinian politics was famous for long before him.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||October 23, 2023 3:58 PM
Is there a comb shortage in Argentina?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||October 23, 2023 4:30 PM
R16 sounds like a band of daddy fucking incest survivors. There is no redemption for cunts like that, worthless.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||October 23, 2023 4:47 PM
R20 it crossed my mind that there was some incest in the family. Whenever they called home they would only speak to the mother. The oldest one, married to my shipmate, always said that their father was “difficult”.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||October 23, 2023 4:53 PM
Democracy is great until it isn’t.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||October 23, 2023 5:04 PM
[QUOTE] And how on earth is that perpetually failed country South America's second-largest economy?
Aren't Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay somewhat stable and liveable?
But yeah, many basket cases on that continent. No doubt.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||October 23, 2023 5:20 PM
R24, Chile is the model of stability in South America.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||October 23, 2023 6:14 PM
I'd like to think enough people in Argentina remember what happened with their last authoritarian government.
(when the military took over after the Peronist government collapsed.)
|by Anonymous||reply 26||October 23, 2023 8:14 PM
R26 I think the problem is that Argentinians can't move on from what happened in the 70's. The military caused a lot of emotional damage to the country but the Peronist movement has used that to ensconce themselves into power and they are among the most corrupt regimes in the world, a bunch of thieves and thugs.
They have an annual inflation of 100%, 40 percent poverty and the winning presidential candidate is the current Economy minister, Peronist candidate Sergio Massa! It's unbelievable.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||October 23, 2023 8:52 PM
Tell that to the fault line it lies on r25…
|by Anonymous||reply 29||October 24, 2023 12:35 AM
R25 Chile had mass riots, at least in Santiago, when the government attempted to raise ticket prices for the Metro in 2019. It included burning down Catholic churches and metro stations. The country has a huge underclass which has become more obvious because the upper middle class has also grown a lot since the mid-2000s.
Argentina's middle class is becoming extinct - due to the economy and emigration with many leaving for Italy, Spain, and the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||October 24, 2023 12:47 AM
R5 why do you think people are desperate for Massa (peronist) to not win?
As an argentinean, the caricature the international media created for Milei is almost laughably ott. He's an unlikeable asshole, typical rigt wing libertarian, but dangerous? Unless you mean privatizing college and healthcare, idk how he would be.
To clarify I didn't vote for him, but he's the only candidate who presented an actual economic plan and presented a new option from the same fucking dumpster fire political parties we've had for decades. Plus, it's a vote against Massa who is 100% responsible for the 100% + inflation (he has been the head of Ministry of Economy for almost 2 years) yet will still likely be president for 4 more years.
R26 look at you thinking our government isnt already authoritarian.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||October 24, 2023 1:09 AM
Milei looks like a raging alcoholic having a dry drunk.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||October 24, 2023 1:28 AM
Brazil had it's OWN Trump
|by Anonymous||reply 35||October 24, 2023 1:31 AM
Is that the right number of teeth for an adult man?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||October 24, 2023 1:34 AM
Pretty much every country in South America has a right wing leader.
Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Chile.
Something is seriously wrong with them down there.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||October 24, 2023 1:36 AM
Uruguay and Chile are more economically stable, they also arent nearly as rich as Argentina or Brazil....which are richer but less stable.
R38 omg you do know that there are actual people from S.A here and are going to call you out on ypur ignorance....Lula right wing? Boric? Shut the fuck up, please.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||October 24, 2023 1:40 AM
Venezuela right wing? Literally living a left wing dictatorship....again, please shut up.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||October 24, 2023 1:41 AM
On that list R38 only Paraguay, Uruguay, and Peru have center-right leaders. All the others are leftists of varying degrees.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||October 24, 2023 1:48 AM
He brandishes a chain saw, what could possibly go wrong?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||October 24, 2023 2:38 AM
Argentina is so very European. A lot of Italian influence. Isn't pastaboi from there?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||October 24, 2023 2:40 AM
It was a mistake for Argentina to join Mercosur. Brazil has used it as a weapon to deindustrialize Argentina.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||October 24, 2023 3:47 AM
That would explain pastaboi's arrogant attitude, R44.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||October 24, 2023 12:03 PM
[quote] The Argentine population is heavily mobilized and very politically engaged
I don’t understand why then, Argentinians think the solution to their economic problems is someone who will create chaos. The article says that even his allies recognize he will bring that. What is the advantage? Is it because he is going to cut social programs?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||October 24, 2023 3:30 PM
[quote] I don’t understand why then, Argentinians think the solution to their economic problems is someone who will create chaos.
Because they're dumb cunts.
Just like American MAGATS.
I have come to the conclusion that the majority of the world's population are ignorant cave people who haven't evolved into fully formed humans.
They're still dumb animals.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||October 24, 2023 3:42 PM
R47 CREATE chaos??!!!! What the fuck do you think we're living in now? 120% inflation IS chaos....40% people living in poverty IS CHAOS?
Please shut the fuck up when you clearly know fuck all about the situation in my country.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||October 24, 2023 5:33 PM
[quote] Is it because he is going to cut social programs?
Argentina has more social programs (that, incidentally, don't work or barely work) than it could ever need as a way to employ people who might be unemployable under normal market circumstances.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||October 24, 2023 7:43 PM
[quote]R47] CREATE chaos??!!!! What the fuck do you think we're living in now? 120% inflation IS chaos....40% people living in poverty IS CHAOS? Please shut the fuck up when you clearly know fuck all about the situation in my country.
That’s from the article you dumb fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||October 25, 2023 2:16 AM
|by Anonymous||reply 52||October 25, 2023 3:24 AM
Getting rid of "central bank" sounds like a good start.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 20, 2023 12:43 PM
Does it? Do we have any idea what a country without a central bank even looks like?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 20, 2023 12:55 PM
Glad to see the Guardian get their nose out of the ass of Hamas for a moment to opine on a country they know nothing about
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 20, 2023 1:58 PM
The Guardian really is worthless.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 20, 2023 1:59 PM
What The Guardian says Milei said is not what Milei is setting out to do but what his detractors tried to use to scare voters away from him.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 20, 2023 8:46 PM