Suzanne Somers is DEAD to me

RIP Chrissy Snow

Aww.

She went to that big trump rally in the sky

......

Wow, OP beat Wikipedia.

She had a thigh master but she couldn’t live forever

Trumper? No sympathy.

Now whose door will I throw bags of shit at?

OP: R. Couri Hay, glad to finally be rid of her

Joyce is now the only main character from Three's Company, who is still alive.

MAGA, Suzanne!

So that makes Alan Hamel available.

…..

I guess God “came and knocked on her door”…

Her publicist R. Couri Hay is a major MAGA douche as well. Carol Burnett won her Enquirer lawsuit against him.

“And now my career is over,”said Suzanne.

Honey, sit down, let me explain something to you ….

[QUOTE] Joyce is now the only main character from Three's Company, who is still alive.

Wrong. Larry is still alive.

R10, Excuse me?

Yes, Richard Kline. Also Priscilla Barnes is still alive (link to rent her AirBNB below) and Jenilee. All three were in the title sequence of the show.

Tomorrow would have been her 77th birthday.

I guess she made other plans.

Snake Oil Saleswoman Succumbs

With that face - how could they tell?

This is unexpected to me. I had no idea she was battling cancer.

Was it the jab?

Lies. She made a video yesterday.

Awww, whack job but I still kind of liked her

Right after Piper Laurie.

Too soon! Too soon!

No she was a good MAGA, Dee. I think it was hunter’s laptop that got her!!!

R25 Her weirdo daughter-in-law keeps shilling all Suzanne's stuff like a leech.

There will be a post memorial service collation held at the Regal Beagle.

Was she in Serial Mom?

I loved Serial Mom!

I heard about this from Liza Minnelli Outlives

Come and knock on our door....

Which one of you bitches did this

This hasn't made the mainstream news yet.

Are you sure, op?

Or maybe she isn't a big enough star to warrant "Breaking News?"

R23, Seriously? She’s written books about it and promoted them on every talk show in America.

She did irreparable damage to Scandinavian / Norwegian women of the Midwest because of those fucking bangs.

She was a rerun and infomercial mainstay throughout the 90s.

R34 . . .

It’s creepy she uploaded to YouTube just yesterday.

I had no idea about the cancer shit either, R35. I work for a living, I don’t have time for fucking talk shows. Whatever spare time I have is devoted to Datalounge, laundry, movies, cooking and porn (in that order).

People has it too.

Aw, RIP

SUZANNE SOMERS THIS IS MY BAD SIDE!!!!

r39 " Whatever spare time I have is devoted to Datalounge"

And her cancer has been mentioned about 100 times on here

Come and knock on my door....

I can't answer it because I just fucking DIED.

Come and dance on my floor....

I can't dance with you because I just fucking DIED.

Admit it, R39, porn is #1 on your list.

Now it's listed

I can hardly wait to see her again.

It's MY TIME TO SHINE!

Two down, one to go.

Has Richard Simmons commented?

Again, there’s something going on this week with so many old actors passing away.

Will Broadway dim for Suzanne?

2023 strikes again.

Rest in Peace.

How's Joyce reacting?

The reunion . . .

Well, another DL icawn has departid for Heaven!

God blesse Suzan!

Heaven needed another Muppet.

Can I have her stuff?

This bitch was something. Thought she was the star of the show, then left, then never had success again, and then went a little crazy, and a little MAGA!

Who did this bitch think she was....me?

Joyce is busy texting her agent to get spots on national tv so that she can talk about her dear departed friend.

If only she had been able to take her ivermectin and supplement regimen in peace, she would still be alive. But, no! Daily harassment from BIG PHARMA got to her! I seen it memes in Facebook and they talked about her being stalked in TikTok. Pharma shills kill again!

First Loretta Lynn drops dead & then Naomi Judd offs herself & now this.

Will anyone famous be alive to vote for me in 2024?

Will there be tears shed on “The View” tomorrow?

GoFundMyCorpse.

She really was a Trumper? What an asshole. Good riddance,

Will David Muir offer a heartfelt tribute from Israel?

Dog had to choose between Suzanne and Mary Lou Retton.

Goodbye MAGA Queen!!!

Hopping to the Farrah curse!

Someone more famous needs to die by the end of the day,

Don't look at me R68.

One less Trumper? Fine by me.

Suzanne is trapped in purgatory and has to spend eternity by herself and talking to her loved ones on the phone.

Republican legend!

Join her, Roseanne!

Can I steal her stuff?

5 finger discount.

Will she be buried with her beloved Thighmaster?

Heaven needed another cunt!

[quote] Suzanne Somers: Supporting Trump is a career killer

Apparently, not JUST a career killer...

She'll skip leg day tomorrow.

R73. Oooohh. Roseanne yeah.

John Ritter is not accepting her calls.

If you own a thigh master, maybe it’ll be worth something now.

RIP, Chrissy.

I recall ‘She’s the Sheriff’ far more readily than ‘Step by Step’. I do hope that she’ll be given the send off she has earned and can bookend life as “the blond in the gold hearse”.

Didn’t Hay have a celebrity gossip column in one of the tabloids at one point?

You can't sit with us!

I don't know her.

Wasnt she big on hormones? Your older body stops producing them for a reason.

Well, RIP Susie

I guess her herbal + lipo treatments didn't work this time.

Will her cute son inherit her multi-million dollar fortune?

Or will he receive nothing, "for reasons that are well known to him?"

Susan Dey did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

R76 No but guess what her casket will be shaped like?

To be honest I never cared for her.

Dead as a mackerel. They call it aggressive cancer but to took 23 years to kill her.

[quote] Will her cute son inherit her multi-million dollar fortune?

I'm betting Suzanne's husband inherits 100% of her estate. He always seemed like he was using her for money. JMO.

I guess investing my life savings in a Broadway revival of "The Blonde in the Thunderbird" wasn't a wise move.

Come on, guys, she was almost a human being.

R83 They should just repeat the TC episode where Jack & Janet think Chrissy is going to die in the hospital...

...but doesn't.

That "reunion" was quite awkward.

That's what she gets for listening to Dr. Prescott.

I guess all those hocus-pocus vegetable smoothies can't cure cancer, after all.

Dumbass.

Shuzshanne Shomers.

This interview was quite interesting - I think her version leaves out a lot of detail...

At 3pm PST the American Infomercial Shoppers will squeeze their Thighmasters in unison - they won’t use the intro as its tempo is too fast.

I bet Jeffrey wasn't much help to her either -

Shoozshanne Shummers, resht in peashe.

They probably offered her if she acted like this =

Honestly I lost respect for her way before MAGA and her weird husband. Shoplifting while you are a high paid movie star is just not cool when you have that kind of money. It just says greedy little bitch. Which is why she was fired originally from Three's Company.

I thought this was a cute video with the big 3 =

Mistletoe

Suzanne Mahoney

Please make Jenna Elfman portray her in a Netflix biopic.

Only Janet and Larry are with us now.

Wasn't she broke?

We'll all slow things down today in honor of Chrissy's death...

Will she be buried by any of her Three's Company cast members?

R115. Her tacky Palms Springs house was constantly up for sale.

R117 I don't think they're THAT hard up for work to be in charge of burying former coworkers.

She’ll make it better the second time around.

The NY Post reports on the death of the TV Icon

Along with Cindy Williams, Richard Dreyfuss, Harrison Ford and Mackenzie Phillips American Graffiti helped launch her career.

But for real - has Joyce DeWitt commented?

RIP.

It's shocking how plain and nondescript she was before Threes Company

r125 She was quite cute in that commercial

She showed her titties in a Dirty Harry movie.

Who knew they'd be the death of her?

I'm assuming the role came after she was busted for "hanging paper."

I'm crying into my 3 Way Poncho as I type.

Her Broadway show was bizarre, laughable, and embarrassing beyond description. And she was a Trump supporter.

r129 I've looked for video

Thunderbird began its run at the Brooks Atkinson Theatre July 8 and officially opened July 17. Closed July 23.

You lived. You breathed. You juiced.

[quote]But for real - has Joyce DeWitt commented?

She's checking with Susan Dey for how to handle this situation.

She was one of the first lifestyle celebrities. She walked so the Kardashians could run.

[quote]...“All her doctors said if she didn’t lead a chemical-free, organic life supported by bioidentical hormones, she wouldn’t be with us.”

Uhm, all that crap she pumped into her body for decades was ALL CHEMICALS! Unregulated, non-scientific crap. Lord knows what's in all that shit. Plus, "organic" produce means almost nothing, they can still use pesticides like horseshit and petroleum, and any other one your lobbyist can get approved. I hate people spreading misinformation.

My doctor told me, "Don't smoke, and don't get cancer. That's all it is."

Liza turned 77 last March, and she wasn't exactly living without CHEMICALS! GO, LIZA!

I imagine Joyce and Richard will be commenting before long. Are they even on social media? Priscilla and Jenilee maybe also, even though they never worked with Suzanne. I remember watching TC when I was a teen. New episodes and repeats. I felt the show was so hip and in the know about adult things, even though today it’s tame compared to what’s on. SS wasn’t a great talent, and I hated she was MAGA, but she could be funny as hell, and the chemistry between the three was amazing. Rest in peace Suzanne.

[quote] Along with Cindy Williams, Richard Dreyfuss, Harrison Ford and Mackenzie Phillips American Graffiti helped launch her career.

According to an Old Hollywood Reader Blind Item put up by Entertainment Lawyer, Keenan Wynn, also helped "launch" her career.

She died of cancer. Interesting.

Kristen Wiig reads the early poetry of Suzanne Somers:

I'm as anti-Trump as you can be, but I don't understand being indifferent or happy someone died because they were sorely misguided.

I seem to recall her saying at some point words to the effect that she'd reversed the aging process, and would live, if not forever, a very long time. I think Joe Rogan thinks that too.

She was a kook, but she was funny on Three's Company. Rest in Peace, Christmas Snow.

[quote]I'm as anti-Trump as you can be, but I don't understand being indifferent or happy someone died because they were sorely misguided.

People can slam for her idiotic, selfish, ignorant support of Trump without being "happy" that she died.

She was cradling a hot mug of thistle milk, but she couldn't live forever.

Who's the thigh master now, bitch?

[quote]But for real - has Joyce DeWitt commented?

Y'all can just use that Davis quote about Crawford's death. "Good!"

Will she be buried in her wig?

[Quote] People can slam for her idiotic, selfish, ignorant support of Trump without being "happy" that she died.

TDS is real R142 People have allowed Trump to live rent free in their heads for far too long!

"hatred of Trump so intense that it impairs people's judgement"

Could someone please post the text from the article at r139? Geoblocked. Thanks

Her website is just one snake oil product after another. The front page is just the tip of the iceberg. Five other tabs of crap. Even Thighmaster is still there.

What a fraud!

Celebrities pay their tributes to SS

Viola Davis: "RIP Suzanne Somers. I grew up watching Three's Company. You were a joy and forever young. Rest well."

Suzanne Somers died - Tell a friend.

150 replies and not one Tell a Friend joke?

That cunt Viola Davis needs to shut the fuck up.

R151 Now you had tvs in your fkin home? I thought you grew up in shotgun shack without indoor plumbing.

Who is on her thigh donor card?

I see gay face on her son Bruce.

Noted actress, beloved cunt

Alan Hamel has two children from his first marriage and most likely grandchildren.

Was Suzanne close to them?

Alan is 87 and will probably die within the next year, as often happens.

[quote] Alan is 87 and will probably die within the next year, as often happens.

Finally the rent boys at Ruth Hardy Park will be safe!

R151, we all feel better knowing that Khloe Kardashian, Caitlyn Jenner, Bethenny Frankel and Deborah Roberts have weighed in. And that Olivia Munn contributed an emoji.

Powerful testimony to the loss we’ve suffered.

May we find strength in the Lord to push through the coming hours and minutes.

What did she do to her skin? It was horrible, all pitted and weathered.

R161 It's called aging Rose.

Has Susan Dey commented yet?

That Susan Dey shit has never been funny.

So young...

R163 10 people before you did that one already.

I used to watch her for hours on HSN. I love those shopping channels, but her segments were especially fun.

[quote] That Susan Dey shit has never been funny.

Neither is "DEAD to me" so it's fitting for this thread.

I think it’s better than,

“Knock, Knock! Who’s There? Not Suzanne Somers!”

Fran Drescher, Kathy Griffin, Barry Manilow, K. Jenner, etc., weigh in.

From Kathy:

[quote] “I am shocked and saddened,” wrote comedian and actor Kathy Griffin on Threads. “Suzanne was a real pal and ‘connector.’ She loved connecting people with one another. Also a real pioneer regarding equal pay for actresses in situations where the man got substantially more salary than the woman.”

From Barry:

[quote] “Suzanne and I were friends for decades. She was the sister I never had and my close confidant forever,” singer-songwriter Barry Manilow wrote on Instagram. “We shared triumphs and heartaches. Her fame in so many fields overshadowed her real talent as one of our greatest comedic actors, a loving mother, an amazing homemaker, and one of the world’s best cooks. I will miss her dearly and hope that she is now out of pain and at peace.”

She was no better than Mike Lindell, selling a bunch of overpriced garbage-y crap made in South Asian sweatshops. That said, she provided a lot of comedy fodder here at DL for years, so RIP you cuckoo MAGA.

Can the Three-Way Poncho turn into a Four-Way so she can be buried in the Poncho-Shroud?

Does she have a star on the Palm Springs Walk of Fame? I do!

[quote] I'm as anti-Trump as you can be, but I don't understand being indifferent or happy someone died because they were sorely misguided.

She was a multi-millionaire and had access to all the information that was out there. Misguided? She and her husband are snake oil salesmen.

[quote] Rest in Peace, Christmas Snow.

MARY.

Please, for the love of all that is holy...

WHERE IS THE LARRY KING THREAD?!

I’m just inconsolable right now!

No big loss.

IT'S SUSIE!

R177 Did Julie Brown not like her?

She seemed fine in the video. How exactly did she die? Must have been a heart attack.

Or maybe it was like when Debbie Reynolds followed Carrie a day later and she willed herself to die after an epiphany moment realizing how meaningless schilling make up products were.

Why oh WHY didn't I go to Palm Springs and get her to autograph my VHS box set of She's the Sheriff???

[quote]She seemed fine in the video. How exactly did she die? Must have been a heart attack.

Cancer and its treatment can get you fast, especially at that age. She was one day from 77.

She could have thrown a clot and had a pulmonary embolism in her sleep. Or, yes, a heart attack or her heart just stopped.

She essentially reached her life expectancy, which for a woman born in 1946 is 78.4 years. Considering she had breast cancer for 23 years, that's quite a feat.

So her very first real break Three's Company she was paid 30,000 per episode. The star John Rutter was making 150,000. She demanded the same and refused to show up unless she got what she wanted. They subsequently fired her for not showing up for two episodes. About 2 weeks. She was not the star, he was.

In today's money that would be: $30,000 in 1977 = $152,988 in 2023 Per week.

Bitch really? You could not live off that? Your first big roll in a series? What part of establishing yourself did not cross your mind before that little stunt?

I'm sure she made up for it with Step by Step and whatever else she did

She went on a 5 finger discount shopping spree right after that and got caught I think. Stealing furs from some Beverly Hills retail store.

......

Why was she making so much less than John Ritter? Even if he was the star, she is a major character on the show. And it sucked after she left. Although, I think it started going downhill after the Ropers left.

r185 never heard that before

The 150k was a total lie from Somers. It's what she asked for but even if she got that, Ritter still would have been paid more because he was the star of the show, in spite of what she and Hamel thought.

Yep, how would she have known what John Ritter got, salaries in Hollywood are negotiated by actors agents and highly secretive just like in the regular world.

Suzanne discusses the beginning of the internal conflicts

She had enough of her aerobics!

Busted for writing bad checks. 😂😂😂

Someone knocked on her door....and it was the police.

[quote] Your first big roll in a series?

I loved my first roll, and my second, and my third....

^Role

r193 That was before Three's Company

Might be right. Did she do any rolling to get cast in the series?

Yes R196, no one said that pic was afterwards. It establishes her crime pattern and willingness to break the law for personal gain. Her shoplifting addiction came after the show.

The fountains at the bellagio will be shut off in honor of Suzanne’s memory and to commemorate the time she was finger banged behind them.

I suspect it was assisted suicide of some sort. Odd that it would be the night before her birthday after she had posted a video the prior day seeming healthy.

If she waited until her actual birthday, they would reported her true age as one year older. Vanity never dies.

She showed titties and muff in Playboy.

Will her thighs live on?

SUZANNE Sizzles

Quite big tits.

R25 I think the video you posted was not made recently. Here is a video on her website from June 30. The family has gathered to celebrate Alan Hamel's birthday. Suzanne appears about 3 minutes into the video. She is wearing a baseball hat over what appears to be wig. She looks gaunt and is not very lively. Suzanne says very little.

Based on that video, I suspect Suzanne and her family have known for months that she was in bad shape and likely would not live. The woman in the video I've posted is nothing likely the bubbly, spry person who appears in your video.

She sho’ is ugleee!

Nashty woman.

#200, someone upthread said her daughter-in-law has been reposting older videos. I don't think she has been filming new ones for some time.

She is the classic case of 'when a door closes a window opens'. If she had stayed on TC til she was 40 she may have just faded into obscurity like so many sitcom stars. But the embarrassment and rejection spurred her on to achieve other things. She conquered TV again; did movies, Vegas, cruises and Broadway; wrote books; made a zillion dollars off her products...

Hers is an amazing success story.

Here's the DL "Suzanne Somers Seems Frail" thread, started in April, 2023. Some sharp-eyed DLer noticed something wrong.

[quote] Based on that video, I suspect Suzanne and her family have known for months that she was in bad shape and likely would not live.

R206 You're probably right. Entertainment Lawyer had a blind item back in May:

[quote] This alliterate back in the day A- list mostly television actress has been on multiple hit shows, but is losing her battle against cancer. - May 10, 2023

Who will I fuck tomorrow morning now that she’s gone? Anybody got Jennilee’s or Priscilla’s number?

And tell that dyke Joyce that I ain’t into chicks who strap on dicks. She can call Barry for that shit.

[quote]Didn’t Hay have a celebrity gossip column in one of the tabloids at one point?

I don't know but I'm sure I remember Spy mag snarking on him occasionally.

I love that mug shot of her. She kind of resembles Liv Ullman. Regarding the pay rate she demanded, I read that was the salary of Carol O’Conner who she thought she was the equivalent of. John’s salary was way lower though slightly higher than the girls.

R25, She wonders on the video if Don Rickles’ wife Barbara might be watching.

Barbara Rickles died in 2021.

R. Couri Hay was the obnoxious host at Joan Crawford’s last public appearance at the Rainbow Room in 1974.

Hopefully she remembers to stay on Satan's good side

It's been explained that the TC contracts were John Ritter (the star & central focus) made the most. The 2 actress roommates made half of his salary (but the same amount level) & the Ropers made half of the female roommates (but the same amount level).

Ropers = $20,000 each episode.

Girl roommates = $40,000 each episode.

Jack = $80,000 each episode.

The contracts had clauses in them that John would be paid double what anyone else made in the cast. Somers wanted $200,000 each episode (so they'd have to pay Joyce the exact same amount) & John would end up with $400,000 an episode. The Ropers would've been entitled to $100,000 each as a result. ABC & TPTB at TC spun the Ropers off into their own show to save money (& they had a good excuse as the UK Ropers were given their own show prior to the US show).

They brought in Mr. Furley (sex starved to be a different take on Mr. Roper & Lana as the hard to get person for a different take on Mrs. Roper. The Lana actress has said in interviews that her brief opening credits stay was due to both Somers & DeWitt pushing her out behind the scenes. It then became obvious to fans that Somers thought she could get more $ with Lana gone but DeWitt's reason is still a mystery other than the $ angle. They hired Don Knotts who was desperate to get back on tv after his film career went down the tubes. Larry was give more lines & scripts when Lana & later Somers had departed. He has never said that TPTB & ABC bumped up his pay before he joined the opening credits later on.

The bottom line is Somers thought she could get everyone in the cast bigger paychecks with her chain reaction demands but the rest of the cast were nervous that the show would be cancelled & told her not to rock the boat. Somers & hubby didn't listen & pulled their come-in-late or not-show-up-at-all stunts plus badmouthing others on shows like Donahue. They were never going to give her the salary demands because it'd set off CBS & NBC paying their top stars more money as well.

The Archie Bunker actor had it put in his contract that he'd be the top paid actor on tv so he'd have to be paid more as well. I think Gary Coleman was NBC's top star at the time of Somers demands. ABC was afraid CBS/NBC would blacklist them when they needed soap actors (who left for other networks) to return to their daytime shows for big rating events like weddings/ funerals. Suzanne & hubby were never going to be allowed to wreck so much damage across all of tv (at the time) no matter how popular she was in the press.

^ So the 5 member cast cost $200,000 per episode which is wanted she wanted for herself each episode.

If ABC gave into her demands the cast cost per episode would've went up five times to $1,000,000 per episode without adding up guest stars, writers & the remaining wardrobe & crew paychecks.

22 episodes would've been well over $33 million a season when you added up everything including the print ads & commercials for publicity.

RIP, our Sacred Lady of Palm Springs.

We loved you, & always will. ❤️

[quote]—What was she thinking?

That's what I though too when they told me I would be the star and not that skinny guy in the bucket hat Gilligan.

Has Joyce DeWitt commented yet?

[quote]r209 She is the classic case of 'when a door closes a window opens'. Hers is an amazing success story.

Suzanne was one of the most talented comediennes ever. She also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout her life. Despite that, she had a good heart, which is hard to encounter in Hollywood. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they identified with her struggles and she theirs

[quote]Suzanne Somers: Supporting Trump is a career killer

Everything that Trump touches dies.

[quote]Didn’t Hay have a celebrity gossip column in one of the tabloids at one point?

He was the weekly gossip columnist for the National Enquirer years ago.

[quote]TDS is real R142 People have allowed Trump to live rent free in their heads for far too long! "hatred of Trump so intense that it impairs people's judgement"

Only a MAGAt would think this was clever or funny.

from the ET crypt

Wasn't she a bed wetter?

R209/223: Playing cartoonish blonds doesn't make you a great comedienne. I'd forgotten that she passed bad checks and also was the proto-Winona Ryder with five finger discounts.

In all seriousness, she was a minor figure who knew how to promote herself. Who knows what she really did with her cancer. It couldn't be "aggressive" and enable her to live for 23 years of quack cures. It simply doesn't work that way.

She was funny in Step by Step

Hamel was responsible for her astronomical salary demands on TC. She fired her manager Jay Bernstein, who also represented Farrah, and went with her husband. NEVER a good idea to have a spouse or relative represent you. Without Hamel, she probably would’ve given in and stayed for the modest raise they offered her. I do give her a lot of credit with reinventing herself post TC. She died an extremely rich woman.

[quote] She died an extremely rich woman.

I didn't think she was all that rich in recent years. They've been trying to sell their PS home for quite some time. I think some of her investments took a hit.

Her sex symbol status was always mystifying to me. Big horsey teeth, ugly legs and a flat behind. That blonde hair hid a multitude of sins.

In retrospect, what did Joyce really have to be so pissed about?

Somers was fighting for her to get a raise just as much as herself.

The show was still a hit even after Harrison/Barnes came on.

I don't get DeWitt's vendetta. Obviously it was one-sided cause Somers really never badmouthed her or John afterwards.

Misplaced lesbian crush gone bad???

R204

Suzanne Expires

Heaven is Back!

Suzanne was dead to me a long time ago.

Everyone makes mistakes.

Will she be buried in Palm Springs?

It amazes me how so many celebrities (and non-celebs) are expressing such affection for and grief over the death of this woman who first of all was a huge Trump supporter and also was infamous as a snake-oil salesperson. Aren't those two things alone reasons enough to write someone off? I'm not saying I expected people to make negative statements about her after her death, but did they need to go out of their way to express love for her and praise for her?

R239 I know. Even Kathy Griffin sent out a heartfelt message. She's all over my instagram feed too.

[quote]NEVER a good idea to have a spouse or relative represent you.

I totally disagree!

So it’s three deaths now…Rudolph Isley of the Isley brothers, Piper Laurie and now Suzanne Somers.

Has Alan remarried yet?

and Mark Goddard of Lost in Space fame R247

Why does Alan Hamel have a Milk Dud attached to his forehead in R25’s video?

I'll always remember her groundbreaking Lifetime movie-- Devil's Food-- where she bravely donned a fatsuit to play an overweight news reporter who sells her soul to Satan to get thin.

R244 du hast recut, MEIN liebchen.

R232 If you're talking about the Palm Springs compound that Hamel-Somers had on the market for years, it sold in 2021 for $8.5 million. (The article at link doesn't mention it, but the Desert Sun reported that they'd bought the place in 1977 for $420,000.) There was also an adjacent parcel of land that appears to have been sold separately for $500,000.

This link regarding the sale also mentions two lots she sold in Malibu for $12.3 million in 2016.

Patrick Duffy Has Spoken

She lives on!

She stood up for women's rights, as long as the man knows how to grab em by the pooossy.

Remeber when 50 year old Suzanne played her teenage self in Keeping Secrets?

The irony of the pic at R251 is that the Donald would never let his 77 y/o shriveled dick anywhere near her 76 year old mummified twat.

Donnie boy only likes that young stuff.

I geeve Suzanne advice. Man want fresh poosey and big titty, but not too big. Man not like titty hanging down at waist. And always get moneys.

^^^ And have you seen some of the ghouls with their shirts that say “Trump can grab my pussy anytime!”.

As if…

I think some of the DL scamps have gotten into Varist Letty's wikipedia page--notice how it now says "and former Slovenian model"? Too bad "Slovenian whore" didn't make the cut.

R234 if you can track down the TC E True Hollywood Story online somewhere it’s really good and gives you the lowdown. It all started when Suzanne started not showing up or calling in for episode rehearsals and tapings in late 1980. And she was filming a movie which overlapped with the start of the season. Plus she was trying to do this negotiation right at the beginning of a season, not while they were on hiatus, which is totally unprofessional and affects EVERYONE involved with the show. Suzanne claims she was fighting not only for herself, but Joyce and John ie she gets a raise they get a raise. Joyce claims she lied, and didn’t care about her and John, only herself. Plus it wasn’t discussed in the E True Hollywood Story, but I think everyone, especially John and Joyce, wondered how it would affect the stability of the show with Suzanne pulling these antics. You probably already know they relegated Suzanne to a brief tag at the end of some of the episodes which finished her contract in 1981. She found out very few are indispensable to a show, like Farrah did when she left CA. Both shows carried on and were still hits with replacements.

^ That just shows her stupidity and greed. ME, ME, ME--it's why she was a Trumpista Deplorable. Birds of a feather....

R257, I don't think Farrah's issues with CA were at all the same as SS with TC. Farrah just didn't want to be on the show, she wasn't holding out for more money.

Vagisize....

R259 I’m aware. I only meant in terms of Farrah’s ego. As in I’m a huge part of CA (and she was probably surprised as hell when people were just as happy with Ladd). She was bigger than Suzanne, and then left a hit show. Lee Majors didn’t want her doing the show, but she wanted a movie career too. Ironically Suzanne discussed this in the ETHS. I want to be as big or even bigger than Farrah. And they shared the same manager for a time.

She lived life to the fullest and appreciated each second.

RIP special one...

Plus R257 She went to the press & blamed the cast for not supporting her more which ticked them off behind the scenes. I'd have to see if her Donahue appearance is still on YT but I watched it (about a decade ago) & she was asked how her cast mates felt about her actions by him.

Somers wanted them to respect her wishes but she didn't respect theirs to continue the show with their contracts that they signed.

It's never been said publicly but I'd guess Ritter would 've had to sign off on ripping up the old contracts (or some of the clauses in them to make her happy) & he probably liked being the top dog on the show. John probably thought she'd take any future big checks away from him & put them in hers.

It's telling that she wasn't asked back for the TC final in any capacity (no brief scene for Janet's wedded bliss & phone tag LOL). Ritter & Somers didn't speak for ages & I'd guess it was over the $ more than her blaming him for not defending her positions.

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She had a hot ass but couldn't live in the Bellagio pool and have threesomes with Alan forever...

I couldn't find the Phil interview so Tom will have to do...

No mention of Suze's powerhouse performance in She's the Sheriff R264. Who wrote that crap?

Any of you bitches ever used a Thighmaster?

Anyone here dressing up as Zombie Suzanne for Halloween?

R268 yep. That shit pinched your fat thighs.

By Suzanne missing those shows on TC, the company was simply out of that money as the insurance didn't cover her absence (remember she said she had broken ribs but still made her Vegas shows) and the crew wasn't paid. That was when everyone turned against her.

Joyce starred in a 2023 country music video several months ago =

One's Company.

Considering what she looked like and where she came from, she could've had Marilyn Chambers's career.

Remember when Playboy published her nude photos and she went on the Barbara Walters hour saying how hurt she was, she was a desperate mother, etc. After getting fired from TC, she posed again saying she's a perfectionist and wanted to have beautiful photos.

^ LOL! good one.

[quote]joyce-dewitt-speaks-out-after- - learning-about-suzanne-somers- - death

Very carefully worded. She focused on Suzanne's family, sending them her condolences, and said absolutely nothing about the experience of having worked with Somers, or about what she brought to the show. Apparently Joyce is a great believer in "if you can't say something nice . . ."

r272 Wow, that was horrible.

^ Leave it alone Suzanne.

You're dead remember?

Richard Kline simply put up a candid photo of him and Suzanne with the note "RIP."

R280 awww, that's so sweet. What a great pic. He aged well...

I knew a stupid woman who was on a sitcom. She’s dead now.

^That was my original post!

I wonder if her death was hastened by following the crackpot advice she doled out in her books?

r284 She was 76, not like she was 35.

Yes, Joyce DeWitt has posted a statement.

The first set of playboy photos were from a 1970 Playmate test she did. She was accepted as a Playmate and Playboy arranged for her to fly out to shoot her layout and centerfold but she ghosted them at the last minute.

The 1984 layout was to try and regenerate interest in her after the Threes Company fiasco.

[quote]R284 She was 76, not like she was 35.

And only a day away from turning 77.

Now Joyce has the Santa Monica Apartment all to herself! Ahhhhh! Life is good. Rent is not cheap here you know.

How n tge hell did this happen???

R287, Hefner did the same thing to Marilyn, publishing the calendar photos in 1953 after she became known.

Back in the day before Joyce and Suzanne "made up."

Joyce is SO bitter in that clip r292.

R293 I'd be bitter too if someone said I didn't support them wrecking my job & future plans back in the day.

Joyce was right when she said Somers stopped them from doing the show by her antics.

Somers is as phony as ever in that one.

[quote]R234 In retrospect, what did Joyce really have to be so pissed about? Somers was fighting for her to get a raise just as much as herself.

Joyce was a perfectly fine but unexceptional performer who knew she’d lucked into a steady, well paying job. She didn’t need Suzanne rocking that boat.

I don't think it was unreasonable for her to want a bigger paycheck. Like her or not, she was a huge reason people were tuning in every week. The network and producers were making a fortune off the show so why shouldn't she be compensated accordingly? Her mistake was letting her husband be her manager and do the negotiating.

Will her death affect her brand? Will people still buy her health supplements? They still hawk Joan Rivers costume jewelry crap on home shopping years after her death.

[quote]Joyce was a perfectly fine but unexceptional performer who knew she’d lucked into a steady, well paying job. She didn’t need Suzanne rocking that boat.

Except that the woman rocking the boat was even more unexceptional in her acting skills. Tits with blond hair thought her shit didn't stink.

This feels really wrong. I loved Suzanne as Chris's. I've a huge regret where my hubby was in palm springs and u didn't go. And he casually tells me 'some famous actress was at the next table...Suzanne something...He'd no idea; but me and my younger sister watched 3's company reruns as kids and adored it; I'd have really been made up to meet her. RIP

R33 that account belongs to a fat straight incel homophobe.

Suzanne was the breakout star from 3C. She was like Farrah or Jimmy Walker. Charlie's Angels continued for several seasons, post-Farrah. 3C continued for several season, post SS.

I think she could have negotiated more pay. Just not as much as she and her husband were asking for. Hamel reminds me of Joan Rivers' husband, Edgar. People just got turned off, trying to negotiate with a spouse. It's UNPROFESSIONAL.

IIRC, SS was also comparing her salary to Alan Alda on MASH.

Yes, I do think sexism played a role in the pay disparity.

In the end, she made more money on her books, inventions (Thigh Master), etc., than she would have if she had stuck to acting.

R247 Bless your heart!

“Hamel reminds me of Joan Rivers' husband, Edgar. People just got turned off, trying to negotiate with a spouse. It's UNPROFESSIONAL.“

And Valerie Harper’s husband Tony.

And yet R304, Hollywood is built on nepotism so, people also get turned off when Daddy runs the studio and puts his daughter in the prime acting spot.

R297 I think they all deserved more money, down to Norman and Audra, but the producers and ABC were never going to pay her the amount she wanted. Not only did she want an astronomical sum for not being the star of the show, the Hamels wanted a piece of ownership of the show. There in fact was no negotiation, or a meeting in the middle so to speak. Alan and Suzanne were fixated on the 150,000 per episode salary. This, plus the tactics they used with Suzanne not showing up to the set, didn’t exactly endear ABC and the producers to their side of things. Years later Alan and Suzanne stated they would’ve done it differently. Joyce has a right to be bitter. The entire show was affected by these antics. When you’re negotiating for more money, you do it on hiatus, where it’s not affecting cast and crew. I honestly don’t know what was going through Suzanne’s mind trying to do this early in the season.

Her son is definitively hot.

[quote]In the end, she made more money on her books, inventions (Thigh Master), etc., than she would have if she had stuck to acting.

Acting was never her strong suit.

r307 "Definitively hot" is a stretch in my opinion, but cute for sure

I loved that he called her grandma.

I recall articles from years ago of her being extremely demanding of charities asking her to make an appearance, i.e. private jet, exorbitant appearance fee, perks for hubby, hair/makeup to travel with her. And didn't she get an HSN host fired or removed from her shows for not fawning enough over her or her products?

Not speaking ill of the dead only applies to non-MAGATs in my book.

I suspect Alan Hamel will be milking this endlessly. Incessant articles, social media posts, morning show appearances, talk show appearances, he will probably write a book.

Will he continue taking his testosterone that Suzanne claimed made him still want sex twice a day? Will he need to find someone to fulfill his twice a day need as soon as possible? What is his net worth now? There's a woman in Montecito looking to upgrade to someone with a higher net worth and Kevin Costner recently ignored her so maybe this old guy with one leg in the grave himself would fit the bill.

r311 No, I don't think she did.

Alan . . . Call me.

R312, He’s 87.

Alan has a sleazy Hugh Hefner look to him.

R312, Who could resist?

I remember an interview with Somers on television after her ouster from the show. Her husband was with her and he didn’t let her get a word in edgewise. Constantly interrupted her. My mom hated that, though she was no fan of Suzanne’s.

Frederick Brisson was Rosalind Russell’s husband and manager.

He did all her “dirty work” and became known as “The Lizard of Roz”.

[quote] I suspect Alan Hamel will be milking this endlessly. Incessant articles, social media posts, morning show appearances, talk show appearances, he will probably write a book.

Nobody's interested in Alan without Suzanne.

R320, Alan Hamel and Zsa Zsa Gabor’s fake Prince Freddie are two of a kind.

I remember Alan when he was the host of a local game show in San Francisco in the '60s -- well before anyone had ever heard of Suzanne Somers.

IIRC that's how Alan and Suzanne met-she auditioned to be a game show hostess. She didn't get the job but snagged Alan who was married at the time.

R322, I may be misremembering, but I remember Alan Hamel briefly hosting a national show.

[quote]Suzanne met-she auditioned to be a game show hostess

Which is really the only talent she had.

OH MY GOD! Does this mean that I won't ever get to see a live performance as insanely, deliriously, tackily good as this? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! 😭😭😭

I'm ashamed to admit it, but I probably would've paid cash money to see that kind of cheeze at R326. Suzanne probably didn't get how campy and cheezy that was, though.

And it was total Vegas cheese.

Wait till she finds out John Ritter makes more in the afterlife that she does! I'd love to be a fly on the wall to see the expression on that dead and Botoxed face.

The Thighmaster takes another innocent life.

[quote]In the end, she made more money on her books, inventions (Thigh Master), etc., than she would have if she had stuck to acting.

She was wealthier than a lot of A Listers.

For chrissakes, she didn't *invent* the thigh master.

r332 Only one person here said she did. She received millions in licensing fees, however.

R333, When the product was first brought to Suzanne’s attention, it was called the V-Toner. She found that name unsexy and renamed it the Thighmaster.

R334 Yes, we understand that. Are you able to read other posts? Perhaps they are not showing for you.

[quote] it was called the V-Toner.

V for Vagina. .. How could that be unsexy?

r329 "John Ritter makes more in the afterlife"

I doubt that

Life Savers commercial with Suzanne and her dad.

[quote]There's a woman in Montecito looking to upgrade to someone with a higher net worth and Kevin Costner recently ignored her so maybe this old guy with one leg in the grave himself would fit the bill.

By Montecito do you mean YOUR HEAD?

The woman you're talking about definitely lives rent free in your head.

Have they decided what golf course she'll be buried in?

r336...

Her planned long-term engagement at the Westgate in Vegas was an epic fail.

[quote]Suzanne Somers explains her departure from her Las Vegas cabaret show

Don't bother to explain, Suzanne. We know...

In late 80s, she and Sinatra were named entertainers of the year in Vegas.

She’s going to be buried in a bedazzled 3 way poncho.

They should bury her three ways.

On The Tonight Show before TC also with Rex Reed and Michael Landon.

R206 that video made me cry. Poor dear. Rest well.

Did Joyce's comments seem cunty to anyone else? She talked about wishing the family well, but nothing about Suzanne, and their relationship, or memories of her.

r348 Agreed on all counts

She and Joyce were not friends. It's not a big deal. Joyce was being honest and wishing well to the family. What the hell was she supposed to say?

Go to 31:40 to see Suzanne perform “Take Back Your Mink” from Guys and Dolls.

r351 Quite fun, actually

[quote]R342 Somers in linked article: “I am an entertainer. I have a stack of the greatest reviews of my career.”

Lowest bar ever?

[quote]R348 Did Joyce's comments seem cunty to anyone else? She talked about wishing the family well, but nothing about Suzanne, and their relationship, or memories of her.

You don’t want to hear Joyce’s memories of Suzanne, trust me.

Take back your mink, indeed...

I saw a production of The Blonde in the Thunderbird at a high school in Carmel Indiana. The 14 year old lead was terrific and sang the hell out of Take Back your Mink.

Schools all over the nation are doing THE BLONDE IN THE THUNDERBIRD. It’s become a Feel Good classic. And more productions will spring up now, in tribute.

[quote]You don’t want to hear Joyce’s memories of Suzanne, trust me.

So then the "reconciliation" that happened when Joyce went on Suzanne's TV show was complete bullshit?

R358, Suzanne needed ratings, Joyce needed exposure.

I saw Somers' Broadway show, live and in person, but I guess I had blocked out how incredibly, embarrassingly awful it was. That clip at R355 is a shocking reminder.

R350 I assume there must've been a time when they were friends, and she must have some positive memories. I don't know, it really didn't bother me or anything. It just struck me as rather cold.

I wonder if Suzanne left anything to Joyce in her will...

You can tell that Suzanne was such full of lies during that denial video about not showing up to work and holding up the cast and crew that she was on the road to MAGA world long before it was created.

Basically a selfish, lying cunt from the start, MAGA just gave her wings. Unfortunately, those floppy boobs kept her from getting off the ground.

[quote]I wonder if Suzanne left anything to Joyce in her will...

A case full of factory second Three-Way Ponchos and some expired hormones.

In memoriam: The classic "I fingered Suzanne Somers in the Bellagio Fountain" post:

[quote]I fingered Suzanne Somers in the waterfall of the Bellagio. Her husband liked my dress and dared me to go in. It was a pretty orange silk and I had only a thong underneath. I held up my heels and went in and Suzanne came laughing right in after. With no more prompting she started kissing me, her tongue was all over my lips and neck and a bit forcefully in my mouth. I was excited by her hunger and even more by her husband and the security men watching. Alan had his phone out and I held out my hand to say no. By then I was fingering up inside her wrap dress. (we had met earlier that evening after her show - we played baccarat) Suzanne was free with me, she is quite wrinkled but had beautiful breasts for a 75 year old? Not sure - this was 4 years ago. She was wet and warm, her nipples were hard, I was wet from the fountain with warmer juice starting to flow. Anyway it lead back to their room - I got a bit freaked out though they were a lot of fun and we only drank champagne. Alan has a very large cock and a tiny tan line. Soft he must be 8 inches. He only penetrated his wife that night, but I could have had more. So, later Alan flew me to Palm Springs and I guess they had a more prepared plan. We had a beautiful 3 days and nights. Alan did join in but Suzanne and I spent a lot of time alone together. She is a brilliant woman. Very pretty without makeup and so sensual. She sang a song with my name in it to me. Her body is not wonderful for 55 but she was so tanned, smooth and responsive. They did ask me to sign a non disclosure, but they was not forceful. I can't say more. Suzanne is a beautiful woman and loves the gays. A lot of them work for her. There is more to the story, but I must leave you in suspense.

R365, And a set of twelve.

R366, where is that from?

Joyce was trying to be polite without being dishonest. Difficult to do. I think she did okay.

R369, Like the Queen’s address after Diana died.

Team Joyce.

All three parts of Hollywood Wives are on YouTube

r368 It's from a little website called Datalounge. You may have heard of it.

One of you theatre queens help me out with this, but in the late 1980s, I swear our Broadway touring house had ads for a production of Annie Get Your Gun starring Suzanne in the newspaper as part of their season. The production never happened, but it at least got as far as being advertised. It would have been around the time Debbie Reynolds was touring Molly Brown, Chita was touring Can-Can, John Davidson was touring Oklahoma, and Goulet was touring South Pacific for the first time.

This is not the Bernadette version of the late 1990s, this was well before that.

Alan Hamel's SF syndicated game show, "The Anniversary Game." As mentioned upthread, Suzy was a Carol Merrill/Vanna White on the show.

R369 yeah, I hear you. But, throwing in something like "what she, John and I created together made people laugh, which is vital to the soul" would've made it less obvious that that eas what she was doing.

R292 clip:

[italic]SUZANNE: Joyce said I was the cruelest, most manipulative person she’d ever know in her life.[/italic]

And?

The character of Janet really changed in the later part of the series. In the earlier episodes she's very grounded and down to earth. Sensible.

Later, particularly after Suzanne leaves, her performance changes. Higher pitched voice. She would do this wide eyed stare- "Oh JACK!" Frankly I think she started acting more like Suzanne as Chrissy.

Dinner theater, yes. Kenley Players or other straw hat circuit, yes. Broadway touring company, no. Davidson was someone who normally did the dinner theater/straw hat circuit. Unlike Somers, he could actually sing.

“The story is obviously courageous, but its telling is remorseless--with stridently sung Broadway show tunes inserted inside the upbeat, relentlessly perky monologue. I found the show smug, but she has guts, and I'm sure if you really, truly love Suzanne Somers, you'll like her show. But if you just like Suzanne Somers, maybe you should think about not going. Billy Crystal she's not."

Ouch!

R381, I never saw Suzanne in The Blonde in the T-Bird, however I did see 16 year old high-school sophomore Kelsey Hogan perform it in Glenbard High School West's production of the show in 2017 and she was hilarious! She had brilliant comedic timing and could really belt!

dubious r382

I seriously doubt that "The Blonde in the Thunderbird" is even available for licensing, not that anyone would want to do it anyway.

She's at her prettiest in the clip @R377

R385, She was only 31 years old.

Suzanne Somers IS No Laughing Matter

Why wasn't Suzanne successful in films? I know she was limited but plenty of bad actors have successful film careers.

If she cant show up for a weekly sitcom, no way is someone going to gamble a 2 year long project around her.

[quote]R388 Why wasn't Suzanne successful in films? I know she was limited but plenty of bad actors have successful film careers.

Who was she going to play? When you took the cartoony TV ditz persona away, she didn’t have much of a personality to sell.

If Meg Ryan had a movie career, why not Suzanne?

Maybe another reason to not have your spouse be your manager.

Charles Isherwood’s review of “The Blonde in the Thunderbird,” which I originally discovered on DL, was an instant classic.

[quote]r391 If Meg Ryan had a movie career, why not Suzanne?

Meg Ryan never got reviews like this:

[italic]NOTHING PERSONAL (1980) Washington Post

On the big screen, Somers resembles a homely, platinum-haired Barbra Streisand. The miniature television image must flatter her, because Somers' face appears gargantuan and unappealing in "Nothing Personal." She confronts you with a huge nose, jaw and teeth, and the lighting doesn't soften or streamline these oversized irregularities. It simply bathes them in gauzy whiteness. Behold the abominable snowbunny!

NY TIMES

[italic]Miss Somers is very game but, to be quick about it, she's terrible. She's not a manufactured star but an assembled one. The teeth seem borrowed from Farah Fawcett, and the torso has the shape of one of those rubber dolls you order through the mail and inflate with a tire pump. The hair looks suspiciously like high-grade nylon. Of her gestures, her smile is the most elaborate. However, because it communicates no amusement, warmth, intelligence or interest, we watch the smile as we would watch the opening of a garage door equipped with an electric eye. It's a minor mechanical feat.

r393 Paywalled article

It's not nice to fool mother nature

[quote]If Meg Ryan had a movie career, why not Suzanne?

Suzanne is difficult. Yes, I said IS.

She was hardly a beauty.

I think she could have been a good Roxie in the revival of Chicago.

R394- By 1980 Suzanne Somers looks were gone but when Three’s Company premiered in March 1977 she was really pretty. What the hell happened to her looks in such a short time.

Canby's description of Somers' "nylon" hair is so accurate. It was so white and floss like it didn't look real.

Suzanne's teeth were pretty bad in the early seasons but they were natural and she had them replaced with those chicklets, it ruined her mouth and smile. As for the hair, that was the producers of TC who felt the blonder the better. She maintained it.

[quote]Miss Somers is very game but, to be quick about it, she's terrible. She's not a manufactured star but an assembled one. The teeth seem borrowed from Farah Fawcett, and the torso has the shape of one of those rubber dolls you order through the mail and inflate with a tire pump. The hair looks suspiciously like high-grade nylon. Of her gestures, her smile is the most elaborate. However, because it communicates no amusement, warmth, intelligence or interest, we watch the smile as we would watch the opening of a garage door equipped with an electric eye. It's a minor mechanical feat.

I don't necessarily disagree with a word of this, but it's kind of amazing. I don't remember anyone other than John Simon reviewing a performer's looks so harshly, and anyone who wrote a review like that today would almost certainly lose their job immediately.

She could light up a room with her smile!

That rough texture to her skin in her later years was not old age but I think it was those hormones that she was getting injected with.

George Bloomfield director of Nothing Personal made his feature film debit with the dreadful Jenny (1970) which demonstrates why Marlo Thomas never had a career in film.

Here's Canby's entire review of Nothing Personal R396

Her camel toe was the most amazing thing in Blonde Thunderbird. Was it mentioned in the reviews? That there was a whole Broadway sized staff working on that show, people at the dress rehearsal, and no one said fix it.

Or maybe they did and Suzanne just went out there.

I'm sure her flashing cameltoe was NO accident, she knew what the audience wanted...

She was an astute businesswoman I’ll give her that.

R407, There was much ado in the media when “Jenny” was released because “That Girl” bared a breast.

the breast is seen only in close-up while 'Jenny' breastfeeds her baby. Not likely Marlo's tit

R412 see for yourself and decide @2:30

[quote]r401 when Three’s Company premiered in March 1977 she was really pretty.

I wouldn’t say “really pretty.” I remember always being kind of disoriented and repulsed by her as a child. Not that there aren’t buffoonish, unconventional looking people who are talented and charming - but they’re not usually sold as sex symbols.

Her face was just so *big*… with a big, ungraceful nose, etc. There are certainly a couple of pics early on where she looks good, though.

r415 "disoriented and repulsed by her" made my night. I'm going to start using that all the time.

If Katharine Hepburn had a movie career, why not Suzanne?

[quote]R416 “disoriented and repulsed by her" made my night. I'm going to start using that all the time.

She always looked like the best looking woman you might find at a moldy, suburban swingers party!

Just [italic]compromised[/italic] in some way…

What many of you don't seem to understand is that straight men don't give a rat's ass about "taste" or "ungraceful" facial features. The bottom line is, Suzanne was pulling in as many-- or more-- viewers as John was, and she and other TV actresses were getting royally screwed. No, she didn't "win", but she (along with Penny and Cindy) got the conversation started, and things were never the same after that.

They deserved to be paid as much as the men, period.

If Troy Donahue can be a movie star, I can be a movie star.

R419, that's such bullshit. John was the star. Period. Suzanne always overstated her own importance and Q scores. John always had higher Q scores than she did. She was really expecting to be paid like Carroll O'Connor or Alan Alda? Farrah Fawcett was only paid 5K an episode, half of what Kate Jackson got. That 30K an episode on TC looks pretty good next to that.

R421 I never cared for John Ritter and don't remember people talking about John as much as they did Suzanne. She was Three's Company Farrah.

America had a fucking meltdown when John Ritter died.

He was bland and I don't remember a meltdown but mild surprise. His death brought aortic dissection into the conversation.

I always hated Chrissy Snow's stupid puppy dog hair ponytails flipped over the crown with a deep side part. Looked so dumb. In the first few episodes she looked more normal and wasn't a buffoonishly stupid.

Oh puh-leeze. She wasn't some feminist icon trying to get equal pay. She was a greedy twat who thought she could shut down TC with her demands and gave zero consideration for anyone else working on that show. In that way, she's exactly like today's MAGAt Trumpanzees that want to shut the government down if they don't get their way.

[quote]R419 What many of you don't seem to understand is that straight men don't give a rat's ass about "taste" or "ungraceful" facial features.

I don’t think anyone’s argued otherwise.

[quote]she and other TV actresses were getting royally screwed. They deserved to be paid as much as the men, period.

Equal pay for equal work and star power. I think Ritter was a limited, goofy ham but when the show started he was an established nepo baby and had much more acting experience than either Somers or DeWitt. His role was more central than the two girls’. You can imagine an episode without either of them, but an episode would be much more off kilter without him. The show went into more detail about his dates, his jobs, his friend Larry (did Janet or Chrissy have any friends?)

It’s really such a stupid show to even be discussing. Uggh. And yes, actresses were/are always paid (and treated) worse in Hollywood than actors… but that doesn’t mean Somers made the same contribution to the show as its male lead.

You never know who is going to be the breakout star or the dud. She could've been a dud, but would she like it if they lowered her pay because of that? No. Ritter was the more established star when the show was cast.

Yes, I think she contributed greatly to the popularity of the show, but she and her husband just went scorched earth in the negotiations.

Ritter was an established star BEFORE Three's Company! WTF!

If you look at his credits, he was far more experienced than DimWitt or Stunners.

NIGHTLINE remembers Suzanne

[quote] dead at 76

That’s the spirit!

[quote] Joyce was being honest and wishing well to the family. What the hell was she supposed to say?

She was SUPPOSED to shriek her hatred of Suzanne to the rafters, rant about how Suzanne almost took down TC, wave her arms wildly, then reveal the Suzanne Barbie and beat it viciously, rip its head off, and stomp on it.

[quote]Ritter was an established star BEFORE Three's Company! WTF!

"Established star" is going a bit overboard. His most visible credit before "Three's Company" was a recurring role as a young preacher on "The Waltons."

John was not an established star. Almost all of us were there, and remember that viewers didn't even know the guy's name before THREE'S COMPANY. He got more money than Suzanne and Joyce because that was simply how things were done back then; the male got more money. Whether Suzanne was being "selfish" or not is irrelevant. She and her equally obnoxious husband changed the game. But as I said in a previous post, this was at the same time as Penny and Cindy were negotiating, and their role in this was very important, too. It's not like I'm arguing that Suzanne single-handedly liberated the female sex from thousand of years of oppression.

R430 More experience yes but Ritter was not an 'established star' before Three's Company. He had a lot of guest appearances on V series and an uncredited bit in 1975a The Prisoner of Second Avenue. Arguably Somers small part as the girl in the white T-bird garnered more attention that Ritter ever did.

R436, that's so ridiculous. I doubt anyone even knew who the girl in the white T-Bird was when she appeared on TC.

The big problem with the debacle of her wanting a raise for 3’s Company is that she fired her VERY BIG agent Jay B. and had her husband go in to negotiate for her. He was an IDIOT and had NO IDEA how to negotiate. But they were both VERY GREEDY and so she did not want to pay her big agent anymore - wanted to keep the money in the family with her husband who no longer had a career. Even in the interviews with him after her death he was pushing their products saying her last words were about keeping their company going and people buying their crap. When he went in to negotiate a raise for her he said what they wanted and then walked out when they said it was too much - next, she pretended to be sick and did not show up for the first day of the new season. So they basically fired her for sending in her nitwit husband instead of a real agent who knew how to play the game. This happened over and over with them. She was on every shopping channel in existence but at some point they’d all stop working with her. She went from place to place her whole career when she and hubby were a pain in the ass. But, she made TONS of money, so it did work out for them financially in a big way.

[Quote] that's so ridiculous. I doubt anyone even knew who the girl in the white T-Bird was when she appeared on TC.

R437 It's not ridiculous. Here she is on the Tonight Show in 1974 where her appearance in AM is brought up. Did Ritter ever do a talk show appearance before Three's Company?

R439, big whoop. Carson had on any "actress" with big tits. Carol Wayne and Teresa Ganzel were also regulars.

R440 to be a guest on the Tonight Show was a big whoop in 1974. Many including Joan Rivers said that show took her career to another level.

R441, She was the very last guest on that night, the couch is filled with the previous guests, including Rex Reed.

By that point, most viewers had turned off the television and gone to bed.

In high school R442 was voted most likely to die alone🥱🥱🥱

Story is that Carson saw her in the commissary and invited her to be on the show without even knowing she was in American Graffiti.

Getting back to her contract, losing Jay Bernstein was the biggest failure because he understood the value of her being on TV. All the contracts were renegotiated in the middle of the season because the producers tore up their originals and gave them big increases after they saw the ratings. Joyce also had the same problem and there's an episode where she doesn't appear because she was not under contract. It was resolved by her management team.

The funniest thing about it was that when the call came out to cast Jack Tripper's new wife, Suzanne and Alan tried to get her an audition.

R443, Actually, I have outlived the majority of my high school graduating class.

So there!

Letterman makes a joke at Joyce DeWitt's expense

Howard remembers Somers

R445 didn't say you were voted to outlive your fellow students. Did they teach reading comprehension in your school? btw How many threads are there on DL about John Ritter?

R417 Hepburn had way more talent than Suzanne. And if not conventionally beautiful by the standards of the time, you could not take your eyes off of Kate, love her or not.

There was a TV critic for a Philadelphia newspaper who was also mystified by Suzanne’s sex symbol status. He hated her legs, called them the ugliest set of gams in television. I wanna say Stu Bykofsky but I can’t be sure.

[Quote] Actually, I have outlived the majority of my high school graduating class.

How old are you R445 if the majority of you graduating class is dead?

She was a remarkably fit 69 year-old on DWTS

R448, I, and everyone on here, comprehend that you’re a fucking cunt.

[quote] It's not like I'm arguing that Suzanne single-handedly liberated the female sex from thousand of years of oppression

But y'are, Blanche, y'are.

[Quote] I, and everyone on here, comprehend that you’re a fucking cunt.

says a dried-up old asshole who hasn't made a cogent point and who seems to speak for some imagined majority. Could it be his dead classmates?

Could R454 be any more pathetic?

Unfortunately for her, no.

Fuck her right-wing dry-ass wrinkled cunt.

[Quote] America had a fucking meltdown when John Ritter died.

R423 you ought to start a thread on John Ritter to the best of my knowledge there's never been one about him on DL

This babygay liked John Ritter's tight pants with VPL!

R437 Johnny Carson had an entire show devoted to it.

Ritter was actually a terrible actor.

John’s dad was popular back in the day…

r461 Yes, which is the only reason John ever got a job.

[quote] Ritter was actually a terrible actor.

Is that why he won an Emmy for the role?

r463 His dad is why

They should sell t-shirts in the DL gift shop with: "I finger fucked Suzanne Somers in the Bellagio fountains and all I got was this stupid Thighmaster"

John Ritter's father is best remembered today for singing the theme to "High Noon" over the opening credits.

r466 How embarrassing

I have this vague memory of reading something bizarre in her autobiography when my grandmother had it out of the library. Something like, she got pregnant without having lost her virginity, through sperm somehow getting up in there without proper penetration.

R486. It’s happened to me several times…

r468 You've embarrassed yourself.

Well, it is a classic film, R267. Otherwise he might not be remembered at all, except as John Ritter's father.

John Ritter -- Nepo baby!

John Ritter, closeted homosexual.

[quote]Well, it is a classic film, R267. Otherwise he might not be remembered at all, except as John Ritter's father.

Sorry about the typo. I was responding to R467.

John was perfect for Three's Company. His lack of any sex appeal made the roommates strictly platonic relationship believable.

Except for the bitter DeWitt everyone has fond memories of Suzanne

So has anyone on Step By Step reacted to her passing or just Mr. Duffy?

I like that after the case went to arbitration and Somers lost, she rushed up to the Three’s Company producer and said “I want to go back to work, I want to do the show!”

I vaguely remember that she seemed to be a pretty decent cook on her talk show.

R478 interesting. I always thought Alan and Suzanne started their negotiations at the beginning of the season, not a month before. It was doomed to fail anyway because ABC wasn’t going to give her any where near what she wanted. Penny and Cindy got a hefty raise for L&S just before all this. One of the lawyers reportedly told Hamels lawyer, who did the L&S negotiations, you got me once, you’re not gonna get me again.

She was shunned

No one could cover Patti Labelle quite like she could.

Does Joyce sing? Maybe she could do this at the memorial.

Or an interpretive dance.

Too bad she didn't get a new attitude in 1980.

Too bad Joyce didn't do anything notable after 1984.

A interview with Suzanne in 1978. She seemed down to earth and fun.

Joyce’s boyfriend at the time, Ray Butkenika (sp?) allegedly abused her. I remember reading that somewhere. He was on HOUSE CALLS.

Are you serious, R487? I'm stunned, Joyce and Ray Buktenica were THE IT couple in Hollywood in the late 1970s, the Brangelina before Brangelina! They were referred to by the press as "Joykenicta". They invented the Hollywood power couple, I can't believe there was a darkness behind the veneer of perfection!

[quote]Joyce’s boyfriend at the time, Ray Butkenika (sp?) allegedly abused her. I remember reading that somewhere. He was on HOUSE CALLS.

He was also on "Rhoda."

Speaking of which, John Ritter appeared on the Mary Tyler Moore show, Rhoda, and Phyllis.

No wonder Joyce is so bitter

Ray and Joyce on The Love Boat

^^^ Here's the pic

Suzanne claimed in her autobiography that she was fooling around with her boyfriend and he came on her pussy. There was no actual penetration but somehow she became pregnant. The gynocologist broke her hymen during an exam. Suzanne also had an abortion while dating Alan Hamel which nearly killed her.

Joyce had that elusive, Old Hollywood glamour. Why Jaclyn Smith became Queen of the Miniseries over her is a mystery.

R494 seems like Suzanne really liked to control the narrative

[quote]Except for the bitter DeWitt everyone has fond memories of Suzanne

I'm not sure that John Ritter had such happy memories of her. Of course, he's been dead for 20 years.

(^.^) though they reconciled before his death

Suzanne would have been so good in any of those Merchant-Ivory film that were big in the 80s and 90s.

Perhaps [italic]The Bostonians.

R499, With those fake choppers?

Didn’t John Ritter inadvertently expose a testicle on an episode?

I suppose that was my fault, too, R501.

R501 . . .

R457, You won’t see ABC doing this for Suzanne.

Ritter was a bit broad in his comic acting (perhaps that's why the unsubtle Lucille Ball liked him) but his timing was good and his style fit the unsubtle writing of the show. He was better on the show he had shortly before his death.

Ray Buktenica guested on just about everything during the late 70s through the 80s. He was a featured player, not a star. He and Somers wouldn't have registered very much with anyone.

r488 "They were referred to by the press as "Joykenicta"."

Doubtful

Am I the only person who feels that John Ritter always came across as very gay in his performance in THREE'S COMPANY and in his other performances -- I mean, even when he was NOT pretending to be gay on THREE'S COMPANY?

r507 yes

[quote] There was a TV critic for a Philadelphia newspaper who was also mystified by Suzanne’s sex symbol status.

Case closed then! She was HIDEOUS.

[R507]Not at all. I always found him very gay, especially on "Three's Company." I was shocked when I found out he was (apparently) straight. He even seemed gay as the young preacher on "The Waltons."

1975 continental airlines commercial she did. She looked better with her original teeth.

Thanks, R510. I didn't think it was only me. I thought Ritter's voice and mannerisms always seemed kinda gay -- especially his voice. And I too was surprised when I found out he was (apparently, supposedly) straight, but I wonder, is there now any doubt about that?

She looks like a blonde Meghan Markle in that Continental commercial.

How old was Joyce de halfwit's character suppose to be? She looks like she's the mother!

Pilot intro

I had no idea there was a pilot of THREE'S COMPANY with a different cast. What a coincidence that there was ANOTHER actress named Suzanne playing (presumably) the same role in that version.

R516, John Ritter as “David”.

John Ritter always read as gay, but by all accounts he was 100% straight and a total pussyhound.

Yes, 518. Guys it's fascinating to me the way we associate certain mannerisms, body language, and speech with "gay," and it's very often true but apparently not always.

Wow, I guess I had a fan!

Thank you, homosexual!

Wow, I guess I had a fan!

Thank you, homosexual!

Wow, I guess I had a fan!

Thank you, homosexual!

Wow, I guess I had a fan!

Thank you, homosexual!

Wow, I guess I had a fan!

Thank you, homosexual!

Wow, I guess I had a fan!

Thank you, homosexual!

(stroke in progress)

Can we get Zuzann's take on things?

Zzzzzzzuzannnnn!!!!!!

Look at all those empty seats.

Suzanne on Larry King

Suzanne was the only cast member who visited Norman Fell when he was dying. John and Joyce didn't give two shits.

R531, How would you know that?

OMG… re: r530 clip:

She’s just not a very interesting person to listen to! She’s one of those people like Cybill Shepherd, who’s not as intelligent as they think they are : (

Suzanne said she saw Norman in the hospital so I took her word for it.

R534, THAT was your first mistake!

That reminds me: Donna Douglas was the only surviving "Beverly Hillbillies" cast member who visited Nancy Kulp when she was dying of cancer. Certainly not right-winger Buddy Ebsen, who endorsed Nancy's political opponent when she ran for Congress, saying that Nancy was "too liberal" (and probably too lesbionic).

Obits

Zuzanne

Can I have her Ozempic meds? I’m running low.

R536 Donna Douglas was a right wing Pat Robertson loving 700 Club member herself. On many of his fundraising telethons , Donna would be answering the phones & ol' Pat would tell the cameraman to show Donna & other celebs manning the lines.

When Buddy did that to Nancy, I didn't hear one word of support for her from the other surviving cast members nor did they say Buddy was out of line to do her that way. They acted like none of that even went down. I doubt either Donna nor Jethro even campaigned for her in any way or spoke of her character when Buddy slandered her in public. Donna said that she was a close friend of Buddy for over 30 years & that he was a "wonderful man".

Still it's been said that Nancy & Ebsen made up before she passed away so it's possible he couldn't make it to her bedside before she passed. He was about 83 himself when she passed away at age 69..

Donna just wanted Nancy to repent her sinful gay lifestyle and accept the Lord before it was too late.

Or, perhaps, they discussed scissoring tips.

Or, perhaps, Alan’s alleged monster cock.

r543 Gross

Underground yet?

Bout time

Where is Suzanne buried? This guy shows you.....

^Dude sounds exactly like Kip, Napoleon Dynamite's brother.

Sumers will never be the same again!