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Teens charged with rape of two males in South Dakota.

Members of the baseball team. What possesses idiots like these to do this and not think they would get caught?

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by Anonymousreply 424February 26, 2024 6:13 PM

They wanted it

by Anonymousreply 1October 7, 2023 3:40 AM

The article doesn't tell us if this was one of those baseball bat incidents, rape rape or something out of porn.

by Anonymousreply 2October 7, 2023 3:50 AM

Don't you just hate it when that happens!!!

by Anonymousreply 3October 7, 2023 3:50 AM

R2, no report has stated the exact incidents, but the " forcible assault" makes it seem more like the bat .

by Anonymousreply 4October 7, 2023 4:00 AM

I'm sure their dicks found themselves inside of sophomore twink-hole by accident!!!!!

That shit happens, ya know?

by Anonymousreply 5October 7, 2023 4:04 AM

I don't think there's a homoerotic element here - rape as a form of humiliation and emasculation, particularly in wartime, has a long history. This is purely macho sadism.

by Anonymousreply 6October 7, 2023 4:06 AM

I refuse to believe this. There isn't a trans, Hollywood elite, or obviously effete gay among them so it must be lamestream media lies! Or a PSYOP!

I demand this thread be removed!

by Anonymousreply 7October 7, 2023 4:07 AM

Sounds like a day that ends in Y at Bryan Singer's pool!

by Anonymousreply 8October 7, 2023 4:14 AM

My mussy remains unmoistened.

by Anonymousreply 9October 7, 2023 4:17 AM

But putting your mayonnaise cannon inside of your buddy's hole is the newest trend on TikTok!

by Anonymousreply 10October 7, 2023 4:25 AM

Suspect it’s a scene straight out of porn where they forced the kids to blow them as humiliation. What fucking assholes. And the coaches knew about it according to the story?

by Anonymousreply 11October 7, 2023 4:28 AM

FFS, look at their names:

Carter Miller, 18; Landon Waddell, 19; Hudson Haley, 18; and Lincoln Bates, 18, are among the six current and former high school baseball players charged with rape in South Dakota.

by Anonymousreply 12October 7, 2023 4:31 AM

All adults now.

by Anonymousreply 13October 7, 2023 4:33 AM

Queens.

Matt.D.

by Anonymousreply 14October 7, 2023 4:34 AM

EDIT: here are all six suspects. My point is strengthened.

Landon Waddell, 19, faces one count of second-degree rape and two counts of aiding and abetting second-degree rape. His charges involve two victims. Hudson Haley, 18, faces two counts of second-degree rape and one count of aiding and abetting second-degree rape. His charges involve two victims. Peyton Mandel, 17, faces one count of second-degree rape and one count of aiding and abetting second-degree rape. Lincoln Bates, 18, faces one count of second-degree rape and one count of aiding and abetting second-degree rape. Carter Miller, 18, faces one count of second-degree rape and one count of aiding and abetting second-degree rape. Karter Sibson, 17, faces one count of second-degree rape and one count of aiding and abetting second-degree rape.

by Anonymousreply 15October 7, 2023 4:34 AM

Verificatia of batsize?

by Anonymousreply 16October 7, 2023 4:34 AM

I could smell the whiskey on their breath! And I liked it! I liked it!!

by Anonymousreply 17October 7, 2023 4:38 AM

Boys will be boys!

by Anonymousreply 18October 7, 2023 5:01 AM

Was Gym Jordan involved?

by Anonymousreply 19October 7, 2023 5:04 AM

R15, what is your point?

Something tells me that you weren't on the high school debate team.

by Anonymousreply 20October 7, 2023 5:04 AM

R20, but they were just debating who could reach their friend's prostate first!!

by Anonymousreply 21October 7, 2023 5:08 AM

Fags.

by Anonymousreply 22October 7, 2023 5:09 AM

#RedStateProblems!

You dumb fucks: this is what happens when you refuse to say GAY!!!!

by Anonymousreply 23October 7, 2023 5:14 AM

Did they watch each other cum, I bet it was hot mmmmmmm!!!

by Anonymousreply 24October 7, 2023 5:19 AM

Did they at least have the common decency to fuck in front of Mt. Rushmore?

by Anonymousreply 25October 7, 2023 5:22 AM

They tried to alert Governor Kristi Noem but she had a mouth full of Corey Lewandowski's cock.

by Anonymousreply 26October 7, 2023 5:26 AM

There’s no surprise anal in baseball!

by Anonymousreply 27October 7, 2023 5:29 AM

I guess South Dakota parents need to realize that male homosexuality and gay male sexual desire is more common than they're comfortable with!

Oh, well! What a terrible rude awakening for them.

by Anonymousreply 28October 7, 2023 5:30 AM

<- Kristi could blow him and still have room to chew gum.

by Anonymousreply 29October 7, 2023 5:32 AM

You just KNOW that all of their straight fathers are disappointed as fuck. :( :(

by Anonymousreply 30October 7, 2023 5:32 AM

Let's be the South Dakota dads of male-raping teen boys!!!😂😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 31October 7, 2023 5:40 AM

I vote for clemency

by Anonymousreply 32October 7, 2023 5:42 AM

R31 I’m the yelling of “I didn’t raise no faggot!”, as they’re socked to the ground and a cheap beer can is crushed against their skull.

by Anonymousreply 33October 7, 2023 5:43 AM

South Dakota, the family values state!

by Anonymousreply 34October 7, 2023 5:43 AM

The prosecutor said there was forced penetration, but didn’t say with what. I’m guessing a finger. That’s what would be used for a hazing ritual or team bonding activity, not a bat. They don’t want to physically injure the recipient.

by Anonymousreply 35October 7, 2023 5:44 AM

It’s more like “I can’t wait-rape”.

by Anonymousreply 36October 7, 2023 5:44 AM

Some start a poll…

1, 2, 3, or 4?

by Anonymousreply 37October 7, 2023 5:51 AM

The parents would never blame their boys. They'd blame Grooming and enticement. Schools and books. Media and Biden.

by Anonymousreply 38October 7, 2023 5:53 AM

"So you're a faggot!!!"

by Anonymousreply 39October 7, 2023 5:57 AM

[quote] The parents would never blame their boys.

If the dads played sports then they already experienced it themselves. The moms might be shocked to learn what happens.

by Anonymousreply 40October 7, 2023 5:59 AM

I thought Gen Z was so enlightened about gay sex?

by Anonymousreply 41October 7, 2023 6:00 AM

Ahh, sportsball.

by Anonymousreply 42October 7, 2023 6:00 AM

I would have presented hole to any or all of them.

by Anonymousreply 43October 7, 2023 6:02 AM

Their punishment is that they should obviously bottom for the entire Sioux Nation!

by Anonymousreply 44October 7, 2023 6:03 AM

[Quote]Something tells me that you weren't on the high school debate team.

Actually, R15 was a mass debater.

by Anonymousreply 45October 7, 2023 6:04 AM

"My son is NOT gay!!"

by Anonymousreply 46October 7, 2023 6:06 AM

If they were fingered by their teammates unwillingly, that's rape in my book.

by Anonymousreply 47October 7, 2023 6:08 AM

The one on the left looks like he's headed towards a sordid life of gay XXX.

by Anonymousreply 48October 7, 2023 6:09 AM

#LittleMaleWhores

by Anonymousreply 49October 7, 2023 6:36 AM

Far right looks like a future Meth’r

by Anonymousreply 50October 7, 2023 6:38 AM

Was it male-rape-male-rape?

by Anonymousreply 51October 7, 2023 6:40 AM

[quote] Carter Miller, 18; Landon Waddell, 19; Hudson Haley, 18; and Lincoln Bates, 18

I hope their girlfriends know that Carter, Landon, Hudson, and Lincoln LOVE sucking men's dicks!

by Anonymousreply 52October 7, 2023 6:44 AM

#SouthDakotaMaleRape!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 53October 7, 2023 7:04 AM

Second degree sounds more bat than schlong, but I love the idea of victims turning the tails, so to speak, drugging and raping their tormentors, and turning them out into the Sean Cody trash they secretly dream of being..

by Anonymousreply 54October 7, 2023 7:12 AM

These fucking names: Landon, Peyton, Hudson, Lincoln…and Carter & Karter.

by Anonymousreply 55October 7, 2023 7:13 AM

It's called cornholing in South Dakota. The victims will survive. I'd rather be raped in the ass than hit over the head with a baseball bat.

by Anonymousreply 56October 7, 2023 8:09 AM

NEXTSIES!

by Anonymousreply 57October 7, 2023 8:18 AM

Although the case is being tried in Pennington County, Roetzel said she has good reason to believe this is not an isolated incident with this ball club and has occurred for as long as five years.

“I do have reason to believe this is a culture, a continuing pattern of behavior, with that organization,"

I hope they get off ... again.

by Anonymousreply 58October 7, 2023 8:23 AM

[quote]The one on the left looks like he's headed towards a sordid life of gay XXX.

It wouldn't be the first time. We've seen on previous threads that numerous redneck guys end up doing gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 59October 7, 2023 8:28 AM

Where is the Matt Damon troll? I would think he would be all over this thread.

by Anonymousreply 60October 7, 2023 8:31 AM

I remember when team horseplay grew out of hand on an episode of “The White Knight” back on CBS in the 1970s. It wasn’t even a “special episode” with “viewer discretion advised”. It was just more titillation in the beefcake annex of jiggle television.

by Anonymousreply 61October 7, 2023 9:05 AM

There are actually nine:

[quote] Three more suspects also faced charges in juvenile court, but their cases were not being made public.

by Anonymousreply 62October 7, 2023 9:22 AM

All of the suspects are on the cute side.

by Anonymousreply 63October 7, 2023 9:29 AM

Maybe you're just into teens? Ignoring their Helix porn names, maybe number 2 has something, but the overriding element is that they all have the look of someone whose father is married to their cousin.

by Anonymousreply 64October 7, 2023 9:56 AM

R12 The names sound as if their parents had a future for them as bestselling authors in mind.

by Anonymousreply 65October 7, 2023 9:56 AM

I think it's the lead in the water.

This seems to be a complete non-story in Mitchell according to the local news, must be a frequent occurrence.

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by Anonymousreply 66October 7, 2023 10:18 AM

“Sore South Dakota Twink” made me LOL

by Anonymousreply 67October 7, 2023 12:02 PM

But this happens all the time!!!!

by Anonymousreply 68October 7, 2023 12:13 PM

Meanwhile Peyton discusses fisting techniques with his brother.

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by Anonymousreply 69October 7, 2023 12:20 PM

I hope South Dakota is having a Very Special Discussion about this tonight. Because, Hi Bitches, your boys are butt-raping each other. 😂 😂

by Anonymousreply 70October 7, 2023 12:24 PM

...and Landon looks longingly at his "special friend".

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by Anonymousreply 71October 7, 2023 12:25 PM

R71, why is Landon touching his dick?

by Anonymousreply 72October 7, 2023 12:28 PM

He must be fantasizing about butt-rape!

by Anonymousreply 73October 7, 2023 12:30 PM

R63/r64, better haircuts would make them hotter rapists.

by Anonymousreply 74October 7, 2023 12:44 PM

I, too, would like to press charges.

by Anonymousreply 75October 7, 2023 12:45 PM

[quote]Where is the Matt Damon troll? I would think he would be all over this thread.

Try looking at R22.

by Anonymousreply 76October 7, 2023 1:11 PM

R61 The White Shadow!

by Anonymousreply 77October 7, 2023 1:23 PM

George McGovern’s hometown, where he became a champion high school debater.

by Anonymousreply 78October 7, 2023 1:24 PM

R78 - was he a… master debater?

by Anonymousreply 79October 7, 2023 1:39 PM

Apparently this was not a one off. A pattern over years with that team. The coach(es) cupped the. oops dropped the ball, letting this go on. Those naughty boys deserve an ass licking. 😜

by Anonymousreply 80October 7, 2023 1:39 PM

I'm guessing the parents think it's no big deal, that there's nothing gay about it, and that it's just boys being boys.

With that many being charged, and all having parents, I think it's the culture they grew up in.

The accusers will be shunned and treated as pariahs.

by Anonymousreply 81October 7, 2023 1:40 PM

You’re probably right, R81. And if they get an old, white male judge, they’ll get slaps on the wrist. I’m guessing this was some hazing thing where a couple younger guys got something shoved up their asses, so no one will see this as being egregious. And yes, the victims will be treated like shit for ruining the lives of a bunch of good boys. No doubt a bunch of churchies too.

by Anonymousreply 82October 7, 2023 1:48 PM

Those white boy "rapists" will be fine. They have futures ahead of them, don't you know!

by Anonymousreply 83October 7, 2023 1:57 PM

Gang rape is wrong, but studies have shown that 9 out of 10 people do enjoy it.

by Anonymousreply 84October 7, 2023 1:59 PM

any hole is a goal. ..

by Anonymousreply 85October 7, 2023 2:10 PM

It’s not “gang rape.” It’s “team rape.”

We have values.

by Anonymousreply 86October 7, 2023 2:20 PM

R54–First degree means the victim was younger than 13. Second degree means “sexual penetration” by force or threat of force. Sexual penetration is not defined in the statute. The people of South Dakota don’t want yucky things in their statutes.

by Anonymousreply 87October 7, 2023 2:35 PM

I blame the gay books in the kids libraries and Drag Queens reading to them. They taught them to crave the male butthole! GOD WILL FORGIVE THEM!

by Anonymousreply 88October 7, 2023 2:37 PM

If the school had posted the Ten Commandments in the hall, this would not have happened!

by Anonymousreply 89October 7, 2023 2:39 PM

But I just wanted to pet his ass-hairs!

by Anonymousreply 90October 7, 2023 2:41 PM

But I just wanted to pet his ass-hairs!

by Anonymousreply 91October 7, 2023 2:42 PM

[quote] But putting your mayonnaise cannon inside of your buddy's hole is the newest trend on TikTok!

We ain’t got yer tikkytokky in South Dekotee.

by Anonymousreply 92October 7, 2023 2:43 PM

Landon loves licking hairy guy hole!

by Anonymousreply 93October 7, 2023 2:45 PM

And, I'd also research the background of the ring leader. He's gay.

This is how he gets his rocks off with plausible deniability.

by Anonymousreply 94October 7, 2023 2:55 PM

R61 Was Salami involved?

by Anonymousreply 95October 7, 2023 3:34 PM

Sounds more like a power trip than teen boys getting off sexually.

by Anonymousreply 96October 7, 2023 3:48 PM

And they didn't even make it past second base.

by Anonymousreply 97October 7, 2023 3:53 PM

Disgusting no matter the circumstances. Hazing rituals make boys want to buy assault rifles and become mass shooters.

by Anonymousreply 98October 7, 2023 4:03 PM

They all look the same

by Anonymousreply 99October 7, 2023 4:05 PM

This is a pattern. Call me naive, but years ago the kids and the parents would have been the ones shamed. Nowadays, the behavior is excused (if not celebrated as 'boys will be boys') and there are no repercussions for these types of anti-social actions. The victims are the bad guys.

These are the types of boys - most but not all - that will grow up to be males with guns and lifted trucks and the privileges that come with being males with no conscience. I know it sounds like a gross generalization, but I look at the landscape of how we live today and can't ignore the obvious changes and connections.

Even 'minor' escapades such as this don't occur in a vacuum.

by Anonymousreply 100October 7, 2023 4:18 PM

[quote]Call me naive, but years ago the kids and the parents would have been the ones shamed

Can't agree on that one. Anyone exposing these secret little traditions, like hazing, have always been the ones blamed.

by Anonymousreply 101October 7, 2023 4:21 PM

[quote] This is a pattern. Call me naive, but years ago the kids and the parents would have been the ones shamed. Nowadays, the behavior is excused (if not celebrated as 'boys will be boys') and there are no repercussions for these types of anti-social actions. The victims are the bad guys.

What part of “arrested for rape” do you not understand?

by Anonymousreply 102October 7, 2023 4:24 PM

Buck would NEVER rape a younger boy!

by Anonymousreply 103October 7, 2023 4:25 PM

R102

Good point. Let's see how it all resolves.

Might depend on how much money they have, or whether the judge or jury thinks they have promising futures and shouldn't be punished for just some normal fun that maybe got out of hand.

by Anonymousreply 104October 7, 2023 4:30 PM

[quote]Sounds more like a power trip than teen boys getting off sexually.

What the hell do you mean by that? How can you possibly make such a judgment? The truth is it's very possible there was a strong sexual element in the assault for some, or all, of the attackers, but neither you nor I nor anyone else can know that -- unless one of more of these sick bullies confess to that, which is EXTREMELY unlikely.

by Anonymousreply 105October 7, 2023 4:50 PM

R105 Just a hunch, doll. Just a hunch.

by Anonymousreply 106October 7, 2023 5:02 PM

That's even better than getting to third base.

by Anonymousreply 107October 7, 2023 5:05 PM

R105 Same way they rape the new guy in prison so he respects the gang that holds the power. Men dominating other men is the basis for sports like wrestling and boxing. That is what hazing is. I don't think this happened because all of these boy for all these years so just so horny for each other that they fingered each other in groups.

by Anonymousreply 108October 7, 2023 5:05 PM

Wow. Possible rapists are allowed to attend school and travel on holidays.

by Anonymousreply 109October 7, 2023 5:06 PM

[quote] Men dominating other men is the basis for sports like wrestling and boxing.

There's nothing going on here.

by Anonymousreply 110October 7, 2023 5:59 PM

None of them are fugly.

by Anonymousreply 111October 7, 2023 6:10 PM

I like the one who resembles Harry Styles and also the blond with the squinty eyes. He looks ashamed and scared.

by Anonymousreply 112October 7, 2023 6:13 PM

OP- You only started this thread because you think these RIFF RAFF are HOT.

by Anonymousreply 113October 7, 2023 6:18 PM

R113, apparently, you missed this:

[quote] What possesses idiots like these to do this and not think they would get caught?

But then, you were probably too busy beating off to the photos.

by Anonymousreply 114October 7, 2023 6:25 PM

The 18 and 19-year olds could have made some money, if they'd simply contacted Sketchy Sex, FraternityX, or FaceDownAssUp.

by Anonymousreply 115October 7, 2023 9:37 PM

Actually R112, I think he prefers playing with smaller balls.

(The local newspaper certainly photograph these people a lot)

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by Anonymousreply 116October 8, 2023 11:24 AM

That's a sexy picture!

by Anonymousreply 117October 8, 2023 2:04 PM

And if you're really lucky, he'll assault you, too!

by Anonymousreply 118October 8, 2023 2:10 PM

Powerful yet sensual swing?

by Anonymousreply 119October 8, 2023 2:11 PM

Bury Your Dick In My Wounded Ass

by Anonymousreply 120October 8, 2023 2:12 PM

They should be sprayed with gasoline and then 🔥

by Anonymousreply 121October 8, 2023 2:31 PM

There have been similar type incidents reported in the past and the culprits looked MUCH worse than these guys.

by Anonymousreply 122October 8, 2023 2:41 PM

: I should've killed myself when he put it in me. After the first time, before we were married, Landon promised never again. He promised, and I believed him. But sin never dies.

by Anonymousreply 123October 8, 2023 2:48 PM

If I had been gang banged by the baseball team in high school, as their punishment, I would have insisted that they do it again monthly. A coach or two would have to join in to refine their technique. I would cherish those bonding memories for years.

by Anonymousreply 124October 8, 2023 3:14 PM

Once a MONTH?

Prude.

by Anonymousreply 125October 8, 2023 3:50 PM

So you like others forcing a baseball bat in your ass, R124? You're too sick, even for DL.

by Anonymousreply 126October 8, 2023 3:53 PM

Apparently, R126 has never been to Cuba.

by Anonymousreply 127October 8, 2023 4:00 PM

To R112, I thought the same thing about the Harry Styles look-a-like, he really has some of Miss Styles's facial features (and of course the hideous hair) They all need haircuts too.

by Anonymousreply 128October 8, 2023 4:07 PM

[quote] I don't think this happened because all of these boy for all these years so just so horny for each other that they fingered each other in groups.

You may be surprised!

by Anonymousreply 129October 8, 2023 6:07 PM

R61 I love that we both knew you meant The White Shadow

by Anonymousreply 130October 9, 2023 4:34 AM

Your mayonnaise cannon? That's a new one.

by Anonymousreply 131October 9, 2023 5:11 AM

They’re hot. They’ll be very popular in jail.

by Anonymousreply 132October 9, 2023 5:29 AM

I know a good judge they can call.

by Anonymousreply 133October 9, 2023 5:30 AM

I posted in another thread about something like this happening to me in college.

It’s not hot for many reasons. You think when they’re done they’re going to kill you to keep it from coming out.

Those poor victims had to face their rapists as they were allowed to return to school.

I’m guessing other students picked on them for tattling

God help those victims

by Anonymousreply 134October 9, 2023 6:10 AM

Nothing to see, here.

by Anonymousreply 135October 9, 2023 6:13 AM

Does anybody know why the cop who shot his sergeant thread was closed? He shot him because he thought he was going to get raped.

by Anonymousreply 136October 9, 2023 12:41 PM

Sentence them to be mares at a Fickstutenmarkt . They will be ridden hard.

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by Anonymousreply 137October 9, 2023 2:49 PM

Any updates?

by Anonymousreply 138October 20, 2023 9:08 AM

"Landon Waddell, 19; Hudson Haley, 18; Karter Sibson, 17; Carter Miller, 17; Lincoln Bates, 18; and Peyton Mandel, 17, each pleaded not guilty to the second-degree rape charges they were indicted on in early August. Tuesday's hearing marked the first court appearance for the defendants since they were charged in an alleged rape that occurred while the team was in Rapid City in June.

After pleading not guilty to the charges, the defendants are scheduled to appear in court Feb. 6 for a status hearing."

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by Anonymousreply 139October 20, 2023 5:08 PM

Gets worse.

"Two Mitchell baseball officials are facing newly filed charges in connection to rape allegations with the city’s Legion baseball team.

Legion coach Luke Norden, 43, and Mitchell Baseball Association board member Jeremy Borgan, 48, were each charged with various misdemeanors on Tuesday, Oct. 10."

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by Anonymousreply 140October 20, 2023 5:11 PM

And it wasn't just an isolated incident, It's always the teachers, priests, scout masters, right wing politicians - something something Christian's all of them no doubt.

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by Anonymousreply 141October 20, 2023 5:14 PM

“this is something that was probably going on for up to five years.”

So, no real updates R138

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by Anonymousreply 142October 20, 2023 5:16 PM

If you go to the Corn Palace, you better keep an eye on your kids! And whatever you do, don’t take them to the park!

by Anonymousreply 143October 20, 2023 5:17 PM

R126 types fat pussy.

by Anonymousreply 144October 20, 2023 5:19 PM

I guarantee there are students going up to the victims in this at school saying ‘why do you have to make such a big deal about this?’

by Anonymousreply 145October 20, 2023 5:22 PM

R145 - I guarantee the victims aren’t even able to go to school.

by Anonymousreply 146October 20, 2023 6:15 PM

R146 OP's article says six accused were allowed to attend school:

[quote] All six defendants were free on bond and a judge ruled they were allowed to attend school.

And the article in the NY Post implies a victim is also in school, because it describes what would be considered a restraining order:

[quote] The judge ruled Mandel can attend school but has to stay 30 feet away from a victim at all times. Mandel was also allowed to participate in activities and events as long as he keeps 100 feet away from the victim.

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by Anonymousreply 147October 20, 2023 7:09 PM

alleged victim

by Anonymousreply 148October 20, 2023 7:58 PM

R147, Carter looks ashamed!

by Anonymousreply 149October 20, 2023 8:01 PM

[quote]I guarantee the victims aren’t even able to go to school.

They should be able sit by now.

by Anonymousreply 150October 20, 2023 9:18 PM

Uh, we haven't even heard what allegedly constitutes rape here.

The whole thing is nonsense. It's hazing. The DA admitted that and then changed it from hazing to "rape". There's implied consent by the fools who now claim it was rape. When you join a fraternity you basically agree to the hazing. And that's all this was.

by Anonymousreply 151October 21, 2023 8:19 AM

Barron Trump released two thumbs in solidarity!

by Anonymousreply 152October 21, 2023 8:20 AM

Jesus, R152, are you retarded?

by Anonymousreply 153October 21, 2023 9:30 AM

The new Mt. Rushmore is four twinks fingering each other up the butt!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 154October 21, 2023 10:07 AM

That'll put some hair on their chest!

by Anonymousreply 155October 21, 2023 10:16 AM

Hello Karter @ r152!

by Anonymousreply 156October 21, 2023 10:20 AM

[quote]When you join a fraternity you basically agree to the hazing. And that's all this was.

Obviously, you didn't bother to read the article, so your opinion is worthless. Next time, you should get familiar with the situation before you make an imbecile of yourself.

by Anonymousreply 157October 21, 2023 11:54 AM

[quote]Uh, we haven't even heard what allegedly constitutes rape here. The whole thing is nonsense. It's hazing. The DA admitted that and then changed it from hazing to "rape". There's implied consent by the fools who now claim it was rape. When you join a fraternity you basically agree to the hazing. And that's all this was.

Thanks for revealing yourself as a sociopath -- and, no doubt, a former frat member. In my opinion, these hazings are disgusting, criminal activity by toxic males REGARDLESS of whether or not "consent" is involved. The fact that such sick, immature, depraved nonsense exists in the 21st century is mind-boggling.

by Anonymousreply 158October 21, 2023 12:39 PM

they can haze me

by Anonymousreply 159October 21, 2023 1:14 PM

That arguments against hazing have been going on for eons. Many people have died, sexually assaulted, traumatized, etc. The argument has been going on so long that the subject is now very politicized, and for those who support it it is now a matter of pride.

by Anonymousreply 160October 21, 2023 3:24 PM

I need photos.

by Anonymousreply 161October 21, 2023 3:27 PM

Barbara Kruger (1981)

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by Anonymousreply 162October 21, 2023 3:29 PM

[quote]Arguments against hazing have been going on for eons. Many people have died, sexually assaulted, traumatized, etc. The argument has been going on so long that the subject is now very politicized, and for those who support it it is now a matter of pride.

But how can SO many people be so sick, sadistic, and emotionally retarded to condone (or participate in) hazing for ANY reason? Even when nobody winds up dying, those rituals are bizarre, disgusting, and utterly humiliating.

by Anonymousreply 163October 21, 2023 5:45 PM

[quote] Obviously, you didn't bother to read the article, so your opinion is worthless. Next time, you should get familiar with the situation before you make an imbecile of yourself.

r157 Excuse me? I read the article. Which sex act was performed? What, they slapped some kid on the butt?

Until I know what actually happened, the jury is still out. But I guess you're psychic. What happened which constitutes rape?

by Anonymousreply 164October 21, 2023 6:02 PM

[quote] Thanks for revealing yourself as a sociopath -- and, no doubt, a former frat member. In my opinion, these hazings are disgusting, criminal activity by toxic males REGARDLESS of whether or not "consent" is involved. The fact that such sick, immature, depraved nonsense exists in the 21st century is mind-boggling.

r158 Okay, so you're the Virgin Mary and you don't like rough sex. (And we don't even what they did at this point.)

It doesn't matter if you approve of a sex act or not. It's not rape if there's consent.

by Anonymousreply 165October 21, 2023 6:08 PM

[quote] What possesses idiots like these to do this and not think they would get caught?

What possesses idiots like these to do this?

Fixed it for you.

by Anonymousreply 166October 21, 2023 6:12 PM

They are practice the homosex.

by Anonymousreply 167October 21, 2023 6:21 PM

More...

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by Anonymousreply 168October 21, 2023 6:23 PM

Oh dear R164, are you related to the accused? The prosecutor (watch the interview I posted) clarifies that they are talking about forcible penetration without consent. Now if you think that's perfectly normal then R158 has read you as clear as crystal.

by Anonymousreply 169October 21, 2023 6:45 PM

[quote]But how can SO many people be so sick, sadistic, and emotionally retarded to condone (or participate in) hazing for ANY reason? Even when nobody winds up dying, those rituals are bizarre, disgusting, and utterly humiliating.

Because it's fun, Rose!

by Anonymousreply 170October 21, 2023 7:15 PM

So no lube, I gather?

by Anonymousreply 171October 21, 2023 7:16 PM

[quote] Oh dear [R164], are you related to the accused? The prosecutor (watch the interview I posted) clarifies that they are talking about forcible penetration without consent. Now if you think that's perfectly normal then [R158] has read you as clear as crystal.

From the article:

[quote] At first, the incident was characterized as a team hazing ritual, according to South Dakota Public Broadcasting. However, Pennington County State Attorney Lara Roetzel reportedly rejected this notion, and described it as a “forcible assault.”

r169 Oh good god you must be one of those "elder gays" I've been warned about. Sorry, but the story keeps evolving i.e. the cops are changing their story. The defense will seize on that.

We'll see at the trial. It sounds like the "victims" had second thoughts afterwards. Oh well, consent for the hazing is all part of the ritual.

Like having something shoved up your butt is the worse thing which could happen? It's hazing. Fuck the two whiny bitches who complained.

So you want to ruin those four boys' lives over a hazing prank? FUCK YOU.

by Anonymousreply 172October 21, 2023 7:41 PM

I am assuming no dicks were involved in this sodomy rape, just object(s)?

by Anonymousreply 173October 21, 2023 7:41 PM

r173 Just tongues.

by Anonymousreply 174October 21, 2023 7:42 PM

[quote][R157] Excuse me? I read the article. Which sex act was performed? What, they slapped some kid on the butt? Until I know what actually happened, the jury is still out. But I guess you're psychic. What happened which constitutes rape?

Reading comprehension must be foreign to you.

[quote]The players allegedly took part in sexually assaulting two 16-year-old males during a team trip to a baseball tournament in early June, Knewz.com has learned.

A baseball team, not a fraternity initiation. And, there was no consent, as there would be with pledging a frat. Your opinion is still irrelevant.

by Anonymousreply 175October 21, 2023 7:46 PM

According to the South Dakota law, consent doesn't really matter if the sex act occurred.

[quote] "through the use of force, coercion, or threats of immediate and great bodily harm against the victim or other persons within the victim's presence, accompanied by apparent power of execution;"

So I would guess that the D.A. feels that hazing falls under "coercion."

by Anonymousreply 176October 21, 2023 8:25 PM

r175 It's hazing whether it's a fraternity or a sports teams. Again, the prosecutor initially described this as hazing, not me, not the boys' lawyers. The prosecutor is changing the charges because he knows he would lose.

There is consent in hazing.

What this amounts to is a homophobic witch hunt because teenage boys had gay sex.

by Anonymousreply 177October 21, 2023 8:26 PM

The victims were 16. I doubt they consented to being “hazed” by having stuff shoved up their asses.

by Anonymousreply 178October 21, 2023 8:27 PM

Piss-fuck all of them.

by Anonymousreply 179October 21, 2023 8:30 PM

r178 Self hating gay much?

Since when is an act of homosexual intercourse "having stuff shoved up their asses"?

by Anonymousreply 180October 21, 2023 8:31 PM

I'm surprised there is not more of this sodomy hazing among teens. They are digital natives and many have consumed hard core porn as casually as we watched Brady Brunch and Happy Days.

by Anonymousreply 181October 21, 2023 8:53 PM

r181 I'm in favor of more sodomy, not less.

by Anonymousreply 182October 21, 2023 10:27 PM

[quote]I'm surprised there is not more of this sodomy hazing among teens.

There is more, even on this team since it was said it has been going on for years. Most people are not going to rat on the teammates though so it's not going to be discussed out in the open for public consumption.

by Anonymousreply 183October 21, 2023 10:33 PM

R180 - you’re a mental case.

by Anonymousreply 184October 21, 2023 10:48 PM

The really odd case (still ongoing?) is the one earlier this year in Iowa where one frat house guy was allegedly trying to force another guy in the house to peg HIM. .. Apparently, a third guy was chartered with keeping lookout while a fourth was supposed to film it. .. An air gun was also said to be involved.

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by Anonymousreply 185October 21, 2023 11:00 PM

Another Iowa case. Forcible fondling is now illegal??

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by Anonymousreply 186October 21, 2023 11:09 PM

At Iowa State Daily, reporters not only cover sexual crimes, they participate.

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by Anonymousreply 187October 21, 2023 11:10 PM

Young men are transgressing all over Flyoverstan.

by Anonymousreply 188October 22, 2023 12:45 AM

[quote] Forcible fondling is now illegal??

Why wouldn’t it be? Any kind of unwanted assault on someone else should be illegal.

by Anonymousreply 189October 22, 2023 1:10 AM

Forcible fondling is now considered assault??

by Anonymousreply 190October 22, 2023 1:20 AM

Forcible fondling?

Is that what's known as "the laying on of hands" in Utah?

by Anonymousreply 191October 22, 2023 1:21 AM

In South Dakota, it’s at least 2nd base.

by Anonymousreply 192October 22, 2023 1:36 AM

In NYC, they would have murdered the victims, so there would be no crime reported.

by Anonymousreply 193October 22, 2023 1:42 AM

[quote] you’re a mental case.

r184 One more time, dummy. "Forcible fondling"? Nowhere in that article do they describe what really happened.

by Anonymousreply 194October 22, 2023 2:38 AM

[quote] In NYC, they would have murdered the victims, so there would be no crime reported.

r193 Uh, no, after initiation or hazing, the "victims" are on the team. Next year they'll be hazing some new twink.

Murder!!! The hysteria here is lolworthy.🤣

by Anonymousreply 195October 22, 2023 2:43 AM

Seen at a South Dakota skatepark:

[italic] Anal-fingering! All the cool boys are doing it! [/italic]

by Anonymousreply 196October 22, 2023 5:35 AM

#WhiteBoyFingeringProblems

by Anonymousreply 197October 22, 2023 5:52 AM

[quote]trying to force another guy in the house to peg HIM

To FUCK him? It's only pegging when the top is not male and has to wear a prosthesis to do it. But whatever that guy has to do to make it seem less gay I guess.

by Anonymousreply 198October 22, 2023 1:48 PM

Landon Waddell should be remanded to DL custody effective immediately.

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by Anonymousreply 199October 22, 2023 2:02 PM

It's ALSO pegging when a man uses a strap on instead of his own dick

by Anonymousreply 200October 22, 2023 2:02 PM

Landon is a pervert! Landon is a pervert!

by Anonymousreply 201October 22, 2023 2:07 PM

R194 is a troll.

by Anonymousreply 202October 22, 2023 3:07 PM

Forcible fondling is what we used to refer to as "helping a young man advance his station in life."

by Anonymousreply 203October 22, 2023 6:04 PM

[quote]It's ALSO pegging when a man uses a strap on instead of his own dick

Must not measure up then.

by Anonymousreply 204October 22, 2023 6:06 PM

So, the pegging one is weird.

When I read the headline of course I pictured a guy on a bed in a doggy position, nude, and a guy behind him holding a strap-on and a guy by the door with an air gun pointing it at him relentlessly demanding he put the strap-on on and peg the guy on the bed or else and it’s dark and weird.

But the article describes the scenario in such vague terms it sounds like this all could have been verbal joking around when they all had their clothes on. “You’re gonna put a strap-on on and peg Dan and I’m gonna stand here and guard the door I have an air gun, do it or I’ll shoot! Do it!” And everyone’s laughing ha ha. But somebody got mad and decided to press charges.

by Anonymousreply 205October 22, 2023 6:23 PM

More likely, it was shoving a dildo up the ass, rather than a strap-on.

by Anonymousreply 206October 22, 2023 8:29 PM

[quote]But the article describes the scenario in such vague terms it sounds like this all could have been verbal joking around when they all had their clothes on.

So, there's the matter of prejudicing a jury and consideration of the victims. Then there's the fact it's a newspaper and not Nifty. But even ignore that, do you really think two adults would act in a way they now face charges for failure to report if this was just verbal joking around?

Back to the drawing board, Jessica Fletcher.

by Anonymousreply 207October 22, 2023 8:33 PM

R205 Probably a little of both. Who knows what the circumstances were. I’d wager the actual moments these things take place are quite dull and lame.

by Anonymousreply 208October 22, 2023 9:31 PM

R205 - I agree with your assessment without more concrete evidence or details.

There's a whole generation that is overly offended - even by some words or jokes.

A woman at work (27F) had to quit because she jokingly slapped the ass of a younger co-worker (M23) at a team bowling outing. He went to HR, she got written up, he moved his desk away from her and her desk was moved to another side of the room. She wasn't allowed to even talk with him anymore.

One week later, she just up and quit. Who wouldn't? Oh and she's married (to another co-worker who was there) and has a young child. Pretty sure she wasn't about to do anything sexual with her HUSBAND right there and in front of the entire department.

by Anonymousreply 209October 22, 2023 9:49 PM

R209: Gen Z are a bunch of buzzkills. The Silent Generation might still be more fun than they are.

by Anonymousreply 210October 22, 2023 9:54 PM

[quote]I’d wager the actual moments these things take place are quite dull and lame.

Maybe you'd wager differently if you were on the receiving end of the "these things."

by Anonymousreply 211October 22, 2023 10:03 PM

[quote] But the article describes the scenario in such vague terms it sounds like this all could have been verbal joking around when they all had their clothes on. “You’re gonna put a strap-on on and peg Dan and I’m gonna stand here and guard the door I have an air gun, do it or I’ll shoot! Do it!” And everyone’s laughing ha ha. But somebody got mad and decided to press charges.

This is likely the case. In my fraternity, we told pledges repeatedly for months that they needed to be prepared to perform a certain illegal act as part of initiation. It was all a joke, but I can see how in today’s world, some nervous freshmen could run to the law claiming we did such things and we were forcing him to engage in it.

by Anonymousreply 212October 22, 2023 10:03 PM

R209, I completely agree with you that the reaction to what that woman did was ridiculously out of proportion. I have heard that a star tenor at the Met was removed from the roster for a similar "offense."

That said, the charges in the case we're discussing here are a LOT more serious than someone playfully slapping the butt of a fully-clothed person in a public situation.

by Anonymousreply 213October 22, 2023 10:06 PM

Wow, all of the rapist apologists here. " What if?" "What if?" They are charged and are going to trial.

by Anonymousreply 214October 22, 2023 10:08 PM

[quote] In my fraternity,

Stopped reading.

by Anonymousreply 215October 22, 2023 10:11 PM

[quote] Wow, all of the rapist apologists here. " What if?" "What if?" They are charged and are going to trial.

Yes, “going to trial”, so until that is concluded, we have people accused of rape, not rapists.

by Anonymousreply 216October 22, 2023 10:11 PM

At the end of the local newspaper article in the Mitchell Republic it says:

[quote] If defendants opt to reach a plea agreement with Pennington County State’s Attorney’s Office instead of taking their case to trial, it would eliminate a jury trial.

by Anonymousreply 217October 22, 2023 10:16 PM

[quote] But the article describes the scenario in such vague terms it sounds like this all could have been verbal joking around when they all had their clothes on. “You’re gonna put a strap-on on and peg Dan and I’m gonna stand here and guard the door I have an air gun, do it or I’ll shoot! Do it!” And everyone’s laughing ha ha. But somebody got mad and decided to press charges.

Do you really think the police and the judicial system would waste their time bringing these guys to trial for that?

by Anonymousreply 218October 23, 2023 4:50 AM

[quote]Do you really think the police and the judicial system would waste their time bringing these guys to trial for that?

Gay men have been arrested for less than that when the police and judicial system are on a moral crusade. It happens.

by Anonymousreply 219October 23, 2023 9:01 AM

Whatever happened to the old hazings? Like making the young men strip, coating their bodies with baby oil and then locking them packed together in a snack closet - opening the door only after they had all cum one way or another, That was male bonding.

by Anonymousreply 220October 23, 2023 12:08 PM

If the bat doesn't fit, you must acquit!

by Anonymousreply 221October 23, 2023 12:23 PM

Of course the Iowa authorities will find a way to blame Biden, because they traced the computer activity and good old Frank Biden was the real cause with his swinging sizemeat! That selfie from Frank was the reason!

by Anonymousreply 222October 23, 2023 12:49 PM

R221 = DL's very own Johnny Cockring.

by Anonymousreply 223October 23, 2023 3:33 PM

R221 black comedy quip of the week, and it's only Monday. 👏😱

by Anonymousreply 224October 23, 2023 3:55 PM

Just the two?

by Anonymousreply 225October 23, 2023 6:11 PM

Here's pics of all six boys charged.

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by Anonymousreply 226October 24, 2023 3:00 AM

It’s scary when you (a victim) are around a group of people in the future and you think you’re safe with them and then, someone, a girl usually, will say, ‘why’d you have to make such a big deal out of it?’ Or ‘You probably liked it’ or ‘you know, he lost a scholarship because you tattled on him.’

And then it starts all over again

by Anonymousreply 227October 24, 2023 3:09 AM

This article links the warrants and indictments. It’s described as forcible penetration. Under State law, that could mean with any object.

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by Anonymousreply 228October 24, 2023 11:17 AM

A baseball bat.

by Anonymousreply 229October 24, 2023 1:36 PM

I've seen the picture of the Harry Styles looking boy so many times now, clicking on this thread. I'm getting feelings for him.

by Anonymousreply 230October 24, 2023 2:05 PM

[quote] A baseball bat.

It was almost for sure a finger, but it’s always interesting to see what DLers’ fantasies are.

by Anonymousreply 231October 24, 2023 6:24 PM

They aren't fingering each other. It was objects.

by Anonymousreply 232October 24, 2023 7:12 PM

I'm guessing beer bottles. HS boys are really kinky though so possibly they went full dildo in recent years.

by Anonymousreply 233October 24, 2023 7:13 PM

No straight teen boy is going to stick his finger up another guy's ass.

by Anonymousreply 234October 24, 2023 7:17 PM

I’m not even straight and usually sounds gross.

by Anonymousreply 235October 24, 2023 7:31 PM

Another matter mentioned involved a broom handle. I can see it being something like that before a bat or finger.

by Anonymousreply 236October 24, 2023 8:11 PM

It was the Washington Monument.

by Anonymousreply 237October 24, 2023 8:14 PM

I would have blown them both and every one of on the team as well!

by Anonymousreply 238October 24, 2023 8:24 PM

Ah, thanks, boomer R238 but we're good.

- Carter / Landon / Hudson Haley / Lincoln

by Anonymousreply 239October 24, 2023 8:30 PM

No 18yo is going to turn down a blowie.

by Anonymousreply 240October 25, 2023 1:09 AM

In your deluded fantasy. No young guy straight or gay wants some gross old uncle bottom slobbering on his knob. EVEN if he's getting paid and lets it happen, he'd find you disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 241October 25, 2023 1:15 AM

R241 Um, these aren’t hot models, they’re rapists.

by Anonymousreply 242October 25, 2023 4:35 AM

Tomato, Tomato

by Anonymousreply 243October 25, 2023 4:38 AM

[quote] they’re rapists

If it goes to trial and they are found not guilty, then they're not. .

by Anonymousreply 244October 25, 2023 4:39 AM

R244 And then what are you going to do?

by Anonymousreply 245October 25, 2023 4:41 AM

r245, continue their education?

by Anonymousreply 246October 25, 2023 4:46 AM

Sorry, I thought you asked what are they going to do.

by Anonymousreply 247October 25, 2023 4:47 AM

I do not agree with the hate on this thread for these young men engaging in a bit of homoeroticism disguised as hazing.

This is not rape and these boys are not criminals. Consent is implied in any hazing or initiation.

I also suspect that some of these boys are closeted gay men.

by Anonymousreply 248October 25, 2023 5:02 AM

R248 So when people die during hazing because they’re made to drink alcohol to the point of getting poisoned, nobody’s guilty because consent is implied?

by Anonymousreply 249October 25, 2023 5:07 AM

r249 You're comparing some harmless sexual hazing ritual to manslaughter? No one's consenting to die.

by Anonymousreply 250October 25, 2023 5:26 AM

Oh gosh, weird things happen in Gregland...

by Anonymousreply 251October 25, 2023 7:05 AM

Who the fuck thinks consent in hazing is implied? I’m sure a lot of people don’t consent to it. Or maybe consent to drinking games, but not to sodomy. Because I consent to going out on a date with you doesn’t imply that I consent to you putting your dick in me. Jesus, some of you are bound and determined to live out some Nifty fantasy through this story.

by Anonymousreply 252October 25, 2023 12:23 PM

[quote][R245], continue their education?

"Education"

by Anonymousreply 253October 25, 2023 1:50 PM

Sportsication

by Anonymousreply 254October 25, 2023 3:46 PM

They had planned on Only Fans to pay for Doktor Skool. Now they'll just have Only Fans. I hope a few of them have huge cocks or they won't make hay on the meat market with those milquetoast faces.

by Anonymousreply 255October 25, 2023 4:40 PM

Hungry holes!

by Anonymousreply 256October 25, 2023 4:53 PM

[quote] Because I consent to going out on a date with you doesn’t imply that I consent to you putting your dick in me.

It’s important that people familiarize themselves with what the implications are given specific dating situations so that there aren’t those misunderstandings. It’s not fair to the guy to let him believe you will follow generally accepted dating practices if you won’t.

by Anonymousreply 257October 25, 2023 6:03 PM

[quote] Who the fuck thinks consent in hazing is implied?

People trying to come to terms with their own past abuse.

by Anonymousreply 258October 25, 2023 9:40 PM

R16 Good Lord, is that Nelly Oleson?

by Anonymousreply 259October 25, 2023 9:50 PM

Oops. I meant R116

by Anonymousreply 260October 25, 2023 9:50 PM

R258, I think you're right --but I'm sure it also applies to people who were the abusers, not only those who were abused.

by Anonymousreply 261October 25, 2023 9:51 PM

R258 - that would be pretty twisted thinking if that was the case, and I’d feel sorry for victims who think that way.

by Anonymousreply 262October 25, 2023 10:02 PM

Just some high-spirited boys engaged in a little rough and tumble horseplay. Boys will be boys, after. Nothing to see here. Now back to class, all of you.

- Mr. Weatherbee

by Anonymousreply 263October 25, 2023 10:05 PM

Open your hole!

by Anonymousreply 264October 25, 2023 11:41 PM

[quote] You're comparing some harmless sexual hazing ritual to manslaughter? No one's consenting to die.

Hazing isn't supposed to be sexual, and if it is, it's not harmless. I think you're trolling. Good job.

by Anonymousreply 265October 26, 2023 12:52 AM

r265 No. Not trolling. I do not want to see those 6 boys lives ruined over what sounds like a hazing prank gone awry.

Yes, something inappropriate probably happened and some punishment probably needs to be meted out.

I do not believe for a second that all 6 boys had anal intercourse with the victims.

Sticking some object up a guy's butt as part of a prank is not sexual rape. Charge them with some type of misdemeanor assault. But don't ruin their lives over a prank.

It's the HOMOSEXUAL element here which really has these South Dakota rednecks upset.

by Anonymousreply 266October 26, 2023 1:17 AM

[quote] Sticking some object up a guy's butt as part of a prank is not sexual rape.

You don't know what you're talking about, R266. If you aren't trolling, stop embarrassing yourself. "As part of a prank" is irrelevant. A victim feels is not less assaulted because someone calls it a prank.

For its Uniform Crime Reports, the FBI defines rape as “penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” Most states define it in a similar fashion.

by Anonymousreply 267October 26, 2023 1:24 AM

[quote]But don't ruin their lives over a prank.

A prank is putting Saran Wrap over a toilet bowl or throwing rolls of toilet paper on someone's tree. Sexual assault is NOT a prank.

by Anonymousreply 268October 26, 2023 1:33 AM

r267 Sad to see gay men play into this homophobic hysteria.

Yes, I know the DA will try to send these boys to prison using homosexual rape as a pretext. And it can technically be seen as rape.

I'm telling you that justice is better served and 6 lives will not be ruined if this is reduced to a misdemeanor assault.

So tell us what you want? To ruin these boys lives over this? CREEP.

by Anonymousreply 269October 26, 2023 1:38 AM

R269 How would you feel about it if they'd assaulted a women? You're seeing this through some kind of gay derangement syndrome. If they did this to a girl, or if women did this to a guy, my reaction would be the same. Nobody has a right to do this to anyone else. Period. The end.

by Anonymousreply 270October 26, 2023 1:43 AM

Settle down everyone. Watch any college or wrestling video. Grappling hands grabbing at anything. Hands on balls, fingers on and even pushed into a butt. Is it rape? Nope it is a sport. Thankfully, they are more careful about the wrestling butt drag move in the last few years. But it existed for ages. Ever seen a men's water polo match? That is crazy grabbing and pulling underwater? Point is, men have animalistic, aggressive tendancies just like our animal counterparts. Testosterone. Ever heard of it? You can't change that. And these boy will not get the book thrown at them. They will be fine. They will learn a lesson and will never do it again. Isn't that the point of punishment? Now run along, and let the grown ups visit.

by Anonymousreply 271October 26, 2023 3:22 AM

r270 If a man raped a woman, or a man raped a teenage boy, send him to prison for 50 years.

But like r271 says, you have to put this into context of hazing and initiation among teenage boys. In fraternity hazing, the "victim" turns around and does the same thing to some new recruit next year.

This was all done in a spirit of fun. And we still don't know what actually happened. I think some kid stuck a cucumber up another guy's butt as a prank or something. Sorry, but I'm not a feminist and I'm not woke so as a gay man I say BIG DEAL.

Don't let the punishment ruin 6 young men's lives.

by Anonymousreply 272October 26, 2023 4:13 AM

[quote]This was all done in a spirit of fun.

Psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 273October 26, 2023 4:15 AM

r273 No, you actually. You're a paranoid with social issues. Leave your bedroom once in awhile and walk outside. I was in a frat, was hazed, and laugh about it now.

by Anonymousreply 274October 26, 2023 5:02 AM

I hope they are forced to register as sex offenders and are unemployable.

by Anonymousreply 275October 26, 2023 5:19 AM

Nah, R274, I agree with R273 - you’re a psychopath. Normalizing this type of behavior negates the fact that most will find it unwelcome. It's not normal to shove objects up a person’s ass if they don’t want it. There’s no point to hazing, particularly if it involves this type of activity. There’s nothing normal about it - it’s not boys just being boys. Just because you have some perverted fantasy about it doesn’t mean everyone does. Thinking so actually makes you the creep.

by Anonymousreply 276October 26, 2023 5:40 AM

r276 No, sticking anything but my dick up an ass has never been my fantasy.

Lol. Assholes are not sacred. The victims were not initiated against their will. They wanted on the team and consented. If you think I'm a psychopath I just think you need to get laid. The CREEPS here are the ones who want these 6 young mens' lives ruined over a prank.

by Anonymousreply 277October 26, 2023 5:50 AM

Treating a young man's hole as a sanctum sanctorum is what enables gay panic defense.

by Anonymousreply 278October 26, 2023 5:50 AM

R276 You are being trolled. People are cosplaying outrageous out of touch old codgers. To troll the gullible. And for shits and giggles. I know, I know, it's exhausting to keep up with what is sincere and what isn't.

by Anonymousreply 279October 26, 2023 5:52 AM

[quote] . I was in a frat, was hazed, and laugh about it now.

In case anyone was wondering who I was talking about at r258. My advice is to stop engaging with it.

by Anonymousreply 280October 26, 2023 5:57 AM

Absolutely no one on this thread knows exactly what happened, but everyone is drawing conclusions ( including me). How about we wait for the results before making fools of ourselves?

by Anonymousreply 281October 26, 2023 6:06 AM

Exactly r281 We have no clue what really happened and these young men are innocent until proven guilty.

And no r279 I am not trolling. Read through the thread. Most here believe this whole case is more hilarious than criminal.

The psychopaths are the self-righteous little pussies who want these 6 young men's lives ruined over an initiation prank.

by Anonymousreply 282October 26, 2023 8:09 AM

"Presumed innocent," R282, not " innocent." You agreed that DLers should wait until the facts have been revealed, yet, in the next few sentences, you have stated your conclusions, based only on your presumption of the facts.

by Anonymousreply 283October 26, 2023 1:10 PM

Who’s saying they want their lives ruined? Fifty years per count might be a bit much, but everyone knows they’ll plea bargain down. Plus we’re talking about 18-19 year olds who most definitely know the law. Shoving something up someone’s ass when they don’t consent isn’t a “prank”, it crosses the line into assault and breaks the law. Maybe you get off on that, but I’m sure the kids it happened to didn’t. You’re completely ignoring the victims here, and the fact that what occurred is obviously being considered a crime worthy of some punishment. You can initiate and haze without sodomizing someone. If you’re not a troll, then you most definitely are a psychopath for not recognizing this.

by Anonymousreply 284October 26, 2023 1:12 PM

How delightful! Truly the next DL superstars

by Anonymousreply 285October 26, 2023 4:04 PM

[quote] Plus we’re talking about 18-19 year olds who most definitely know the law.

This is more likely what they know.

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by Anonymousreply 286October 26, 2023 5:22 PM

r283 Huh? Yeah, my conclusion is that sticking a cucumber up some idiot's ass as a prank is not rape - especially when consent for the initiation was clearly given.

You trivialize real victims of rape when you try and assert that.

by Anonymousreply 287October 26, 2023 6:15 PM

[quote] If you’re not a troll, then you most definitely are a psychopath for not recognizing this.

r284 Psychopath. Lol. Yeah, so anyone who disagrees with your self righteous bullshit is a "psychopath"?

You just make yourself look idiotic.

by Anonymousreply 288October 26, 2023 6:19 PM

[quote][R283] Huh? Yeah, my conclusion is that sticking a cucumber up some idiot's ass as a prank is not rape - especially when consent for the initiation was clearly given. You trivialize real victims of rape when you try and assert that.

No, " huh?" involved. Where is it said that a cucumber was used and that it was consensual? Nowhere. It's just you and your desperate attempt to justify something that the prosecutor characterized as " forcible assault":

[quote]“To me, a hazing or initiation, that’s like a frivolous joke or something funny that’s done to become part of a fraternity or a team. I knew all along the serious nature of this. So, I really hope with today’s indictments people understand this is not hazing, this is not an initiation. This was a very serious assault and a forcible assault,” Roetzel said.

But then as you originally admitted, no one on DL really knows what happened.

by Anonymousreply 289October 26, 2023 6:29 PM

R287 - you’re such an asshole. And BTW, where was consent “clearly given”? Just admit you’re a psychotic pedo freak who gets off on shit like this and let’s all move on.

by Anonymousreply 290October 26, 2023 7:18 PM

It is sexual assault if genitalia was not used in the attack. Right? Rape is genitalia!

by Anonymousreply 291October 26, 2023 7:27 PM

^^^^^

It is if you FORCE the victim to do something erotic.

by Anonymousreply 292October 26, 2023 7:45 PM

r289 The cucumber was a joke, like this whole thread. They really used a banana.

by Anonymousreply 293October 26, 2023 7:49 PM

R291 Definitions of rape are based on what each state's code says it is. Don't assume there is uniformity in this.

In South Dakota, its code starts out by equating rape to "sexual penetration," then it defines the term "sexual penetration" as the following:

[quote] Sexual penetration defined--Acts constituting sodomy--Medical practitioners excepted:

[quote] Sexual penetration means an act, however slight, of sexual intercourse, cunnilingus, fellatio, anal intercourse, or any intrusion, however slight, of any part of the body or of any object into the genital or anal openings of another person's body. All of the foregoing acts of sexual penetration, except sexual intercourse, are also defined as sodomy. Practitioners of the healing arts lawfully practicing within the scope of their practice, which determination shall be conclusive as against the state and shall be made by the court prior to trial, are not included within the provisions of this section. In any pretrial proceeding under this section, the prosecution has the burden of establishing probable cause.

So any part of someone's body or an object can be used to rape ... fingers, tongues, baseball bats, that oversized zucchini from grandma's vegetable garden, etc. etc.

by Anonymousreply 294October 26, 2023 8:07 PM

r294 And if there is any justice in the world it will be reduced to assault. And I doubt all 6 boys took turns. Lol. One guy will probably be charged with assault and the others some misdemeanor abetting.

by Anonymousreply 295October 26, 2023 8:39 PM

There's some really stupid people on this board. Fuck me.

by Anonymousreply 296October 26, 2023 8:46 PM

Ben over and spread 'em.

by Anonymousreply 297October 26, 2023 10:12 PM

[quote] Sexual penetration means an act, however slight, of sexual intercourse, cunnilingus, fellatio, anal intercourse, or any intrusion, however slight, of any part of the body or of any object into the genital or anal openings of another person's body.

This is a bad law for stating that all penetration (other than for medical or healing reasons) is “sexual”, which is clearly not true. Anal penetration could be just part of an initiation routine or rite or used for male bonding.

by Anonymousreply 298October 27, 2023 12:23 AM

I’m guessing at least a couple of these guys came in their pants while doing this.

by Anonymousreply 299October 27, 2023 12:34 AM

[quote]I’m guessing at least a couple of these guys came in their pants while doing this.

Well, we can be sure that R287 did after seeing the pictures and dreaming of cucumbers in his ass.

by Anonymousreply 300October 27, 2023 12:52 AM

PlatonicTrollman is fingering himself pretending any of these guys would want to fuck his shit encrusted asshole.

by Anonymousreply 301October 27, 2023 1:10 AM

r301 I'm a top. And I don't fuck little boys.

I also see no need for these young men to go to prison for an initiation prank with a banana, you weak little whiner.

by Anonymousreply 302October 27, 2023 6:40 AM

"prank" - What kind of cunt labels forcible sexual penetration as a prank?!

I have no words to express the extreme level of contempt I have for you and the views that you hold, I just hold the hope that they remain only common amongst the depraved.

by Anonymousreply 303October 27, 2023 6:14 PM

r303 Yeah, I expect as much from the caftan-wearing weak who have destroyed the gay movement by turning it into and endless search for victimhood.

Yes, it was a hazing initiation prank gone awry. I said charge the one guy with assault and give him community service. You actually believe 6 guys gangraped these punks? This whole story is bullshit.

I can't tell you how much contempt I have for crying nellies like you.

by Anonymousreply 304October 27, 2023 7:00 PM

^Someone shut the door, there's a damp breeze passing by.

by Anonymousreply 305October 27, 2023 7:04 PM

Concession noted. The strong are taking back the movement.

by Anonymousreply 306October 27, 2023 7:25 PM

PlatonicCaveman is WHY they hate us.

It thinks it's OK to insert objects in other people's assholes without their consent.

by Anonymousreply 307October 27, 2023 7:40 PM

r307 Uh, no, they hate us because they're bigots.

Again, initiation is consent and you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

And one or more of the six is "us". This has closeted homosexuality written allover it.

by Anonymousreply 308October 27, 2023 8:09 PM

[quote]Like [R271] says, you have to put this into context of hazing and initiation among teenage boys. In fraternity hazing, the "victim" turns around and does the same thing to some new recruit next year.

So that makes it okay in your view, you sick, psychotic asshole?

I'm guessing that you were anally violated during a hazing ritual and then turned around and did it to someone else later. But maybe the reason you feel the way you do is that, in your case, you LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT.

by Anonymousreply 309October 27, 2023 8:10 PM

[quote]This has closeted homosexuality written allover it.

Yes, the criminals certainly seem closeted.

by Anonymousreply 310October 27, 2023 8:13 PM

You are one sick individual, Caveman.

by Anonymousreply 311October 27, 2023 8:14 PM

r309 Lol. No, unfortunately there was no sex in my frat hazing. Just a bunch straight bastards.

Here you go again. Anyone who disagrees with you has psychosis. Methinks you protest too much.

Weirdo, you need to get laid.

by Anonymousreply 312October 27, 2023 8:49 PM

[quote][R309] Lol. No, unfortunately there was no sex in my frat hazing. Just a bunch straight bastards.

Oh, unfortunately? Well, that explains a lot!

BTW, there's nothing wrong with (consensual) sex!

by Anonymousreply 313October 27, 2023 8:53 PM

r313 What, you think sex is unfortunate? But I wouldn't describe what these guys did as "sex". I was responding to that jackass.

by Anonymousreply 314October 27, 2023 9:10 PM

[quote][R313] What, you think sex is unfortunate?

No, dear. You said sex unfortunately didn't happen at your frat hazing, so, it seems like your're a little jealous of these guys who were anally penetrated without their consent.

by Anonymousreply 315October 27, 2023 9:36 PM

[quote]Here you go again. Anyone who disagrees with you has psychosis. Methinks you protest too much. Weirdo, you need to get laid.

No, you are psychotic not because you disagree with me, but because you wrote that the sexual assault in question "was all done in a spirit of fun." I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only one who called you out on this, but I guess you think we're all "weirdos" who "need to get laid."

Here's hoping you get anally fucked or otherwise penetrated without your consent VERY soon.

by Anonymousreply 316October 27, 2023 9:45 PM

Hazing is NOT consent. And again, even if they agreed or willingly participated it DIDN’T mean they agreed to certain acts. Seriously, you have to be psychotic to think otherwise, or to even suggest sexual assault is a feature of gay culture.

by Anonymousreply 317October 27, 2023 9:51 PM

Do we know yet if the guys claiming to be victims said "no" at the time?

by Anonymousreply 318October 27, 2023 10:03 PM

[quote]Seriously, you have to be psychotic to think otherwise, or to even suggest sexual assault is a feature of gay culture.

Notwithstanding the odd statutory definition, people who have stated that it's not sexual assault then are not suggesting anything about sexual assault.

by Anonymousreply 319October 27, 2023 10:06 PM

What the fuck are you rambling about, R319

by Anonymousreply 320October 27, 2023 10:20 PM

[quote] I'm a top. And I don't fuck little boys.

No, you just gently haze them before the opening ceremonies of your “Backyard Badmitton Invitational”. A little teasing will stiffen their wrists and make for better play.

by Anonymousreply 321October 27, 2023 10:31 PM

No we don’t, R318, but lemme see… they were accused by the victims, even if the families later dropped the charges, and the DA went ahead with charges anyway. AND charged them with rape. I’m no legal expert, but that seems like a pretty good indication that something non-consensual occurred. They wouldn’t say penetration with an object occurred if it didn’t. So while nothing may come of this, for now we know they’re charged with a crime that’s apparently been investigated enough to result in charges. Not too difficult to figure out.

by Anonymousreply 322October 27, 2023 10:37 PM

Why am I not surprised that Caveman posted this on the thread about the NBA star sexual assault allegations?

[quote][R17] Sounds like rough sex to me. Some of you need to leave your bedrooms some time.

You need to have sex ASAP, Caveman. You sound horny.

by Anonymousreply 323October 27, 2023 10:57 PM

I guess it's time to stop reading this thread and give it over to the people arguing with each other......oh well.

We can't have anything nice

by Anonymousreply 324October 27, 2023 10:58 PM

You need to close your hole some time, PacificCaveman.

by Anonymousreply 325October 27, 2023 10:59 PM

This is a message board, r324, people will have different opinions and argue.

by Anonymousreply 326October 27, 2023 11:01 PM

[quote] I’m no legal expert, but that seems like a pretty good indication that something non-consensual occurred.

There are countless instances of people claiming something was non-consensual only after the fact, when regret came later. The burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove their case to a jury and prove that anything happened.

by Anonymousreply 327October 27, 2023 11:09 PM

Seems we have several posters who were in a frat and regularly subjected pledges to all forms of humiliation. Now, they assume it's all harmless fun because that's what they thought when did what they did.

by Anonymousreply 328October 28, 2023 12:27 AM

Oh well, lol at the Elder Anti-Sex League on this thread. These guys haven't even been to trial yet. And they're all free to go back to school.

Really? Rapists are allowed to go back to school with the "victims"?

I say one gets an assault charge and community and the other 5 walk. Then you frantic self-righteous old ladies will have to find something else to fantasize about.

by Anonymousreply 329October 28, 2023 3:17 AM

^ ChaoticRapeman

by Anonymousreply 330October 28, 2023 3:27 AM

[quote] Really? Rapists are allowed to go back to school with the "victims"?

But isn't that how "innocent before proven guilty" should work? .. And one or more articles mentioned restraining orders are in place.

by Anonymousreply 331October 28, 2023 3:30 AM

r331 Bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 332October 28, 2023 5:21 AM

[quote]Then you frantic self-righteous old ladies will have to find something else to fantasize about.

You are the only one fantasizing here. Hey, there's still time, maybe you will get ass raped, Mr. Top.

by Anonymousreply 333October 28, 2023 11:09 AM

r333 Lol. No, these boys are too young for me. I'm standing up for these young men because I hate to see their lives ruined over a drunken prank.

Seriously, one kid shoved a banana or something up the victim's asses. It was all part of some initiation with obvious homoerotic undertones, but it was not sexual rape.

Do you elder gays seriously think all 6 boys gangraped them? 🤪 Much ado about nothing.

Say some guy sticks a cucumber up your ass? What, are you gonna go in mourning for the rest of your life over it? I just don't think it's that serious and definitely not reason to send these young men to prison.

by Anonymousreply 334October 28, 2023 4:45 PM

PatheticRapeman.

by Anonymousreply 335October 28, 2023 5:00 PM

Did they have that "innocent teenaged boy smell" after practice in the locker room, were their asses high, tight and jiggly?

The more you know!!

by Anonymousreply 336October 28, 2023 5:04 PM

Bananas, cucumbers, drunken boys… you sure have fantasized a lot about this Caveman.

by Anonymousreply 337October 28, 2023 5:27 PM

You should see what young males in some African peoples have to experience as part of their transition to men. Not anal penetration, but still, it’s older males helping young males cross into manhood. It’s supposed to be something to be endured. Our society has gotten soft.

by Anonymousreply 338October 28, 2023 5:34 PM

R338, that sounds like Papua New Guinea, although certainly other tribes in Africa may have similar rites of passage.

by Anonymousreply 339October 28, 2023 8:32 PM

r337 If they'd just tell us what actually happened I wouldn't have to pull out my banana. I really think this is a homophobic over reaction and these boys lives should not be ruined over it.

by Anonymousreply 340October 28, 2023 8:34 PM

Sounds like Mormonboyz Inspection or Examination pron.

by Anonymousreply 341October 28, 2023 8:44 PM

Give it up, Caveman. No one buys anything you say. You're just wasting space.

by Anonymousreply 342October 28, 2023 9:47 PM

[quote]You should see what young males in some African peoples have to experience as part of their transition to men. Not anal penetration, but still, it’s older males helping young males cross into manhood. It’s supposed to be something to be endured.

And why exactly are these rituals necessary? Do you honestly think young males would have more difficulty "crossing into manhood" without enduring these sick "rites of passage?"

by Anonymousreply 343October 28, 2023 10:33 PM

r343, it's what humans do, and they persist because humans find them to be beneficial and so carry on the tradition.

by Anonymousreply 344October 28, 2023 11:05 PM

r342 Pfffft. Over half the thread is either horny or thinks it's funny. Most agree with me, you hysterical twit. Don't trip over your caftan, sweetie.🤣

by Anonymousreply 345October 29, 2023 2:19 AM

This isn't even taking into account those teen boys raping boys in NORTH dakota!

by Anonymousreply 346October 29, 2023 3:27 AM

[quote][R342] Pfffft. Over half the thread is either horny or thinks it's funny. Most agree with me, you hysterical twit. Don't trip over your caftan, sweetie.🤣

BWAAAAH. Your posts are merely repeats of what you said before. Nothing new or interesting. Give it up; we get it. You're a teeny dicked nerd living out a fantasy about having somebody in a frat initiation insert various produce into your orifices. And then, make assumptions as to what happened here, even though nothing has been revealed. Take it to Nifty; they might be interested.

by Anonymousreply 347October 29, 2023 3:50 AM

[quote]It's what humans do, and they persist because humans find them to be beneficial and so carry on the tradition.

Not ALL humans do it, but I'm sure you are one of those who do, you sick fuck.

by Anonymousreply 348October 29, 2023 3:53 AM

Oh, please.

This is what boys do.

They stick fingers inside of each other's holes!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 349October 29, 2023 4:46 AM

r349 Lol. What makes you think they stuck their fingers up their assholes? Why? I think it was a cucumber.

by Anonymousreply 350October 29, 2023 5:12 AM

R350, cause I was a teenage boy once, and I know what it's like to stick fingers inside of boy-holes 😂😂

by Anonymousreply 351October 29, 2023 8:45 AM

Probably made them line up and make the tiny one clean the floor with a toothbrush. Naked.

by Anonymousreply 352October 29, 2023 9:32 AM

Will the baseball bat be entered into evidence?

by Anonymousreply 353October 29, 2023 9:37 AM

Caveman proved how sick he is on that other thread where he said men can't be raped (except in prison), and that he was raped once and during the rape he realized he was enjoying it.

Seek professional help, Sir.

by Anonymousreply 354October 29, 2023 12:49 PM

r354 A cucumber is not rape. Seek help at your local produce market. 🤣

by Anonymousreply 355October 29, 2023 4:36 PM

R298 Except it doesn't say that.

by Anonymousreply 356October 30, 2023 7:30 PM

Okay.

It's an initiation.

And when those punks go to jail for raping helpless impressionable classmates, they're going to get initiated in prison by Bubba and his buddies.

It's an initiation.

by Anonymousreply 357November 5, 2023 4:14 AM

^^Don't forget they consented to it, because everyone who goes to jail consents to it.

by Anonymousreply 358November 5, 2023 11:16 AM

More incidents of teammates who ( apparently) "consented" to being sexually harassed. Must be one of those "initiations" that the rapist defenders cite so often. I guess it's all harmless fun. Right, rationalizers?

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by Anonymousreply 359November 7, 2023 3:12 PM

Thanks, R359. I wonder how many of the pieces of human excrement who have been defending these assaults as harmless hazing would have the nerve to do so if they weren't able to post here under the cloak of anonymity. Actually, I'm pretty sure I have the answer to my own question, and the number is zero.

by Anonymousreply 360November 7, 2023 3:34 PM

[quote] Don't forget they consented to it, because everyone who goes to jail consents to it.

r358 Uh, newsflash. No one begs the cops to arrest them. But these "victims" desperately wanted to be on the team!!!

by Anonymousreply 361November 7, 2023 3:53 PM

So where's the video?

by Anonymousreply 362November 7, 2023 4:05 PM

r361 You get stupider-sounding by the day, PromotingRapeman.

by Anonymousreply 363November 7, 2023 5:53 PM

Those two poor guys. How can I help them?

by Anonymousreply 364November 7, 2023 6:02 PM

r361 No u. Rape by definition is nonconsensual. They volunteered for initiation. It's hardly comparable to being arrested. Nobody held a gun to their heads.

I support the South Dakota 6!!!

by Anonymousreply 365November 7, 2023 6:17 PM

r365 You're the biggest asshole ever to rise from these Datalounge streets.

by Anonymousreply 366November 7, 2023 6:43 PM

r366 Uh, I'm not the one who wants to ruin 6 young men's lives over an initiation prank.

by Anonymousreply 367November 7, 2023 8:13 PM

[quote] I wonder how many of the pieces of human excrement who have been defending these assaults as harmless hazing would have the nerve to do so if they weren't able to post here under the cloak of anonymity. Actually, I'm pretty sure I have the answer to my own question, and the number is zero.

You are being misleading. You know that there are many things in many societies across time that have been true but could not be stated publicly without repercussion. It’s like saying, gee, if there were people in Salem who thought the Salem witch trials were wrong and a hoax, why didn’t they all speak out about it publicly?

by Anonymousreply 368November 7, 2023 9:36 PM

I probably shouldn't ask, but what do you all make of the handle "PlatonicCaveman?"

by Anonymousreply 369November 7, 2023 10:01 PM

[quote]You know that there are many things in many societies across time that have been true but could not be stated publicly without repercussion. It’s like saying, gee, if there were people in Salem who thought the Salem witch trials were wrong and a hoax, why didn’t they all speak out about it publicly?

Oh, sure, and the situation in Salem is EXACTLY equivalent to what we're discussing here. Bottom line: If you are firm in your belief that these assaults can be classified as "harmless hazing," you should have the courage to post with your real name. But since you don't have the courage to do so, I guess that makes you a coward.

by Anonymousreply 370November 7, 2023 10:06 PM

R370, you’re still be misleading when you falsely state that anyone can publicly say something that is true and there would be no repercussions. The reality is like the Salem witch trials.

by Anonymousreply 371November 7, 2023 10:13 PM

R371, we're discussing a specific situation here. If you were to sign your name to a comment that the assaults we're discussing are nothing more than "harmless hazing," there could and would be no legal or financial repercussions for you. The only repercussions are that you would be called out as a sick puppy by lots of people, and what I'm saying is that if you don't have the courage to take that, you are a coward.

Compare to the Salem witch trials, during which time if anyone had dared to say that witches don't exist and/or that all of the accused were innocent, they themselves would have been branded as witches and put to death.

by Anonymousreply 372November 7, 2023 10:31 PM

Nowhere is it said that it was an initiation.

by Anonymousreply 373November 8, 2023 12:20 AM

[quote] At first, the incident was characterized as a team hazing ritual, according to South Dakota Public Broadcasting.

r373 It's in the article. Hazing is initiation.

by Anonymousreply 374November 9, 2023 8:13 AM

R373, did you purposely cut off the next sentence?

[quote]At first, the incident was characterized as a team hazing ritual, according to South Dakota Public Broadcasting. However, Pennington County State Attorney Lara Roetzel reportedly rejected this notion, and described it as a “forcible assault.”

by Anonymousreply 375November 9, 2023 9:50 AM

[quote] Uh, I'm not the one who wants to ruin 6 young men's lives over an initiation prank.

Those 6 men ruined their own lives by assaulting another person. The law is just being applied to them now and hopefully our Justice system will provide them the same chance as it would anyone else.

If you have a problem with the consequences of their actions, take it up with your lawmakers. If you’re worried about their future, why don’t your hire them to be your houseboys or whatever? I’m sure your onboarding process is horrifying.

by Anonymousreply 376November 9, 2023 1:17 PM

R376 - he’s already thought of that Nifty scenario.

by Anonymousreply 377November 9, 2023 1:20 PM

R375 reponse is for R 374.

by Anonymousreply 378November 9, 2023 1:55 PM

[quote] Those 6 men ruined their own lives by assaulting another person.

It’s alleged. We don’t know that what they are accused of is true.

by Anonymousreply 379November 9, 2023 2:49 PM

[quote] did you purposely cut off the next sentence?

r375 Yes. The next sentence is irrelevant to the question. The first report described the "crime" as a hazing aka initiation. r373 said and I quote:

[quote] Nowhere is it said that it was an initiation.

The prosecution is calling it rape. The press calls it hazing aka initiation.

by Anonymousreply 380November 9, 2023 4:27 PM

Excuse my bluntness, but what the fuck is wrong with you people who are arguing over whether this was "rape" OR "hazing/initiation," when any idiot should be able to understand that it can be categorized as rape that occurred AS PART OF hazing/initiation.

Are you really so shockingly stupid that you don't understand how both of those things can be true at the same time?

by Anonymousreply 381November 9, 2023 6:15 PM

r381 First, they are innocent until proven guilty. Second, the press described it as hazing. The prosecutors call it rape. Third, no one has told us what actually happened.

Sure, it could be both. It depends on whether consent can be proven for the hazing.

by Anonymousreply 382November 9, 2023 6:34 PM

Both can be correct : hazing vs rape? Consent vs Non-consent. You must be a graduate of the school of cognitive dissonance.

by Anonymousreply 383November 9, 2023 7:23 PM

[quote][R375] Yes. The next sentence is irrelevant to the question.

So, anything that conflicts with your pre-conceived ideas is irrelevant. You have already concluded that the boys were only involved in a consensual initiation, so the FACT that she is prosecuting for assault is irrelevant? How are things in Narnia?

[quote]However, Pennington County State Attorney Lara Roetzel reportedly rejected this notion, and described it as a “forcible assault.”

by Anonymousreply 384November 9, 2023 7:27 PM

This is what all of the boys in the Dakotas do!

by Anonymousreply 385November 9, 2023 11:52 PM

r384 I just know that one or more of the six boys is homosexual or bisexual. The two "victims" are straight. And this has turned into a homophobic witch hunt. Shame on a bunch of gay men blindly supporting these allegations against our own.

by Anonymousreply 386November 10, 2023 1:51 AM

Keep digging, Rapeman.

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by Anonymousreply 387November 10, 2023 1:54 AM

[quote]Shame on a bunch of gay men blindly supporting these allegations against our own.

Shame on you for blindly supporting what might be rape.

by Anonymousreply 388November 10, 2023 2:29 AM

r388 What MIGHT BE? 🤣

Innocent until proven guilty. It's homophobic hysteria. And they're charged with second degree rape, because the prosecutors know the whole case is a fraud and they could never win first degree rape.

Where's Oracle when you need him? 🤣 I say they charge one with simple assault and the other 5 walk.

by Anonymousreply 389November 10, 2023 3:21 AM

Presumed innocent. Not innocent.

by Anonymousreply 390November 10, 2023 4:21 AM

Why are you all arguing with a troll ans/or sociopath?

by Anonymousreply 391November 10, 2023 9:39 PM

You got anything better to do, R391?

by Anonymousreply 392November 10, 2023 10:00 PM

Just let the victims fuck the alleged offenders at the next pep rally with frozen cucumbers and write with permanent ink “I’m a” on one of each offers’ left butt and “fag” or - space permitting - “big ole bottom” on the other cheek and call it a day.

You know, cuz it’s all in fun.

by Anonymousreply 393November 10, 2023 10:09 PM

Did they all cum, at least?

by Anonymousreply 394November 29, 2023 2:16 AM

Anything new with this case?

by Anonymousreply 395November 30, 2023 6:48 AM

Is there a baseball bat in the evidence locker?

by Anonymousreply 396November 30, 2023 7:05 AM

[quote]Is there a baseball bat in the evidence locker?

No, but law enforcement did have to sniff some fingers.

by Anonymousreply 397November 30, 2023 8:22 AM

R395 Back in October, local reports stated that the next hearing is in early February.

by Anonymousreply 398December 2, 2023 1:58 AM

I wanna get raped

by Anonymousreply 399December 2, 2023 10:02 AM

Do they have cell phone photos or video?

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by Anonymousreply 400December 4, 2023 9:03 AM

More importantly, did the victims cum?

by Anonymousreply 401December 12, 2023 6:56 PM

The baseball bat is the most sensual of the team sports equipment.

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by Anonymousreply 402December 12, 2023 10:40 PM

The head coach and baseball association board member who were subsequently charged about failure to report in this matter had their first day in court five days ago. I noticed that one paragraph says two of the witnesses were juveniles:

[quote] Two adults, two juveniles and a law enforcement officer are listed as witnesses who testified on the matter.

The two men have requested a joint trial, which is now scheduled to begin March 21, 2024

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by Anonymousreply 403December 12, 2023 11:49 PM

^^^ "A joint trial."

Must be a high court.

by Anonymousreply 404December 13, 2023 4:49 AM

[quote] write with permanent ink “I’m a” on one of each offers’ left butt and “fag” or - space permitting - “big ole bottom” on the other cheek and call it a day.

r393 Lol at the internalized self-hating homophobia among you haterz who want prison terms for gay sex.

by Anonymousreply 405December 13, 2023 8:07 PM

Bats are nothing without balls, r402.

by Anonymousreply 406December 13, 2023 8:17 PM

The teens initiating the roughhousing probably feel very sad and hurt by the accusations.

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by Anonymousreply 407December 13, 2023 8:55 PM

r407 That's one of the South Dakota 6 just before he raped the crying boy with his bat ... or cucumber ... or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 408December 14, 2023 1:20 AM

Those scamps!

by Anonymousreply 409December 14, 2023 2:07 AM

Update on my six boys.

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by Anonymousreply 410February 26, 2024 8:09 AM

Won't somebody think of the rampant teen boy hazing rape!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 411February 26, 2024 8:13 AM

r411 I can't wait for movie!

by Anonymousreply 412February 26, 2024 8:16 AM

^ ^ ^ "the movie" duh

Who can star in it?

by Anonymousreply 413February 26, 2024 8:17 AM

The movie would best be made by a producer like Face Down Ass Up.

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by Anonymousreply 414February 26, 2024 9:12 AM

R413, Steve Irwin's (RIP!) son plays the sobbing fingeree.

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by Anonymousreply 415February 26, 2024 9:16 AM

I know why the fingered boy squeals!

by Anonymousreply 416February 26, 2024 10:21 AM

Good news, prisons in their state are majority white, so no need to join the Aryan Brotherhood for protection. Though I assume some inmates will try to recreate those “hazing” incidents after lights out.

Hope these boys are using this time to take MMA lessons. But even Aaron Hernandez wasn’t safe from inmates so good luck to these jocks.

by Anonymousreply 417February 26, 2024 11:02 AM

They'll be fine. And they'll be early released by a sympathetic appeals judge. I wouldn't worry too much about these scamps.

by Anonymousreply 418February 26, 2024 2:54 PM

[quote] "I don't think there's a homoerotic element here - rape as a form of humiliation and emasculation, particularly in wartime, has a long history. This is purely macho sadism."

Agreed, R6. And with names like "Landon", "Hudson", "Peyton", "Lincoln", and "Karter", the parents of these young men should be jailed too.

by Anonymousreply 419February 26, 2024 4:53 PM

At birth, the name of the child should be given with this consideration: " Which name will guarantee our son gets raped in prison."

by Anonymousreply 420February 26, 2024 5:40 PM

If they go to jail I’m going to their county and steal some stuff

by Anonymousreply 421February 26, 2024 6:00 PM

[quote] And with names like "Landon", "Hudson", "Peyton", "Lincoln", and "Karter", the parents of these young men should be jailed too.

Solid middle class whiteboy names. I think the parents had class. Peyton? C'mon, that boy was made for drama.

by Anonymousreply 422February 26, 2024 6:08 PM

r421 What I'd pay for a pair of some skidmarked underwear.🤣

by Anonymousreply 423February 26, 2024 6:09 PM

Did their balls drop yet?

by Anonymousreply 424February 26, 2024 6:13 PM
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