The Endlessly Fascinating Queen Camilla and King Charles the III visit France....

Camilla's thought bubble: "Champagne for Cam-Cam"!

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Camilla's dress doesn't work. I think she is attempting to emulate Queen Elizabeth, i.e., wearing bright colors. But the result is that she looks like she is dressing younger for her age, especially with the flyaway hair.

See even a house wrecking tramp adulterer can be become queen.

Brigitte Macron looks fabulous. She may be a cradle-robber, but she knows how to dress for her body type. Very chic.

I think Camilla looks great, and that Brigitte's skirt is a few inches too short relative to the length of her jacket. (It might work better if her heels were not so high.)

r6 she looks a hot mess. The bitch can't dress.

I’m not sure why the royal family is such a big thing here on Datalounge because I don’t know a single person who cares anything about one of them.

Well then you are lost!

R8 I have some Trumpy trailer trash cousins, morbidly obese, angry, etc. and they LOVE everything Royal Family and they HATE Meghan. They repeat so many tabloid rumors and gossip you'd think they were relatives. I ran into them at a family gathering for our Matriarch and I could not get over how invested they are. They even argue among themselves about Katherine and William's three kids' personalities. It is very scary.

You can scoff but that shade of pink coordinates beautifully with the blue of Charles’ suit. It’s also very flattering for her complexion.

I feel like she’s trying to become Elizabeth.

They both look like homages to dry rot.

R10 is correct. DL has been overrun in the past 5-6 years by an influx of conservative, foreign and/or not-gay posters. These types love the BRF, despise MM, and display a lot of racism and homophobia in their constant posts. There are also American conservatives here who push the same viewpoint. It's crazy. I've been on DL 20+ years and there was never anything near this level of interest in the BRF before.

I don’t think it requires far-fetched theories. Harry and Meghan are just fun gossip material and the death of the Queen and the new king have created increased comment.

Usually the least weird explanation is the correct one.

I love Charles speaking French. And he does it well, not all awkward and stumbling. I think Camilla tries too hard sometimes and the result is a bit too much. There are times when she looks stunning and other times when it's gauche. It doesn't work. One of my forever favorites of Camilla is the outfit she wore to get married. It was perfect; appropriate and elegant.

In the link below I have to say June 11, 2023 and November 22, 2022, were the absolute worst IMO. And she should never wear stripes.

Camilla is hoping to see the tunnel, and leave a tribute to Diana. She plans to squat when doing so.

Same here, R17. Camilla looked perfect at her wedding and I wish she would follow suit with her other outfits. I get the reasoning behind wearing bright colors, i.e., easily seen by the crowd, etc., but it just doesn't work for her in most instances.

It would suck to be required to be so focused on clothes if you had no interest.

The French PM in black and pink suit was walking at a pretty fast pace. She couldn't slow it down a bit? Charles and Camilla are in their seventies.

Meghan and Harry poll terribly with all stripes, not just conservatives. Conversely, William and Kate poll well with all stripes. Meghan and Harry do not manage their brand well, irrespective of Harry's position in the royal family. They are a laughingstock of their own making.

R14, I have been on the DL for at least 15 years and there has always been interest in the royal family. For the longest time there was an ongoing royal thread that discussed the British royals, royals from other countries, royal history and the like. Those threads got shut down when Meghan came along because her fans could not accept even the slightest criticism of her. Similarly, the 'Dangling Tendrils' threads got shut down for the same reason. Now we have 14 million BRF threads as a consequence. If you're looking for someone to blame for the multitude of threads, look no further than those who got the standing threads shut down. Those lunatics could have just scrolled by. And what did it solve? Meghan and Harry descend further and further into ignominy regardless of the lot of you screaming into the wind.

Camilla is world class homely…

Is "all stripes" a Britishism? So strange.

Camilla's 76, R23. She looks fine.

Hopefully Charles will spare William a lot of aggravation and have it documented in his end of life wishes and instructions that Tungsten is not welcome at his funeral.

[quote][R14], I have been on the DL for at least 15 years and there has always been interest in the royal family

No there hasn't, troll. Big events like weddings and scandals, yes, but not multiple threads daily about Kate Middleton like she's someone we care about here. GTFOOH.

No r25, she’s always been that way. Homely. That’s why the pussy is so good. A face and body like that, you should have some redeeming qualities. And she can’t outshine Charles like Diana did because Charles is so ugly. They deserve one another after all.

As I recall, when Queen Elizabeth was 76, she looked good. I think Camilla should take a lesson from the ER II. Elizabeth II had a basic policy when it came to dressing. She rarely altered her style, and even in formal attire she never startled or surprised. She was elegant. Not a fashion icon, but she had her own style as monarch and it worked. It was consistent but not boring.

Will also add that Camilla cannot compete with Katherine or even Sophie so she shouldn't try.

Liz was way easier to look at than Camilla, who is so fug that she makes milk spoil.

Did you even read my post, R27? I specifically said we had a rolling thread and not the multitude of threads we have today. We have those threads because weirdos such as yourself got the rolling threads shut down. We could go back to those threads if posters such as yourself would fuck off. If you don't care about the BRF, why are you even here? Take your Meghan fan club and create your own thread. Shutting us down is not going to save her plummeting reputation.

This is the ONLY way Emmanuel Macron should ever be photographed. Open shirt, hairy chest and crotch fully exposed.

That’s a terrible color on Camilla! QE2 knew how to wear color and still be “age appropriate.”

There are three YouTube channels I watch that are critical of H&M but otherwise feel The Royal Family can do no wrong. (Lady C, The Royal Grift and River). Each of these are VERY conservative (perhaps River a bit less so). TRG gets her digs in at Biden every chance she gets. And Lady C is no friend of ours though I watch her for the camp value she must know she radiates.

r31 Sophie is a terrible dresser. Just terrible. Arguable the worst in the senior family. Camilla has better looks than Sophie. Sophie looked a fool attending one of the former queen's 100 funeral engagements, wearing a Downton Abbey costume. Telegram, for Miss Hughs!

Leave it too Sophie to some how fuck up something as simple as a black funeral outfit.

The Queen could pull off the hat and coat look outside of England, but Camilla looks fucking ridiculous. She’s sporty and has the lumbering gait of a rugby fullback…she should wear tailored pantsuits with scarves and broaches. Visiting the fashion capital of the world looking like a 1930’s governess is just plain TRASHY.

R37, yes Sophie has some hits and quite a few misses. In that funeral photo she looks like a member of the choir.

The French can lament their lack of a monarch. They had plenty of chances though to have one.

I adore the Royal Family.

Camilla looks good in that ice pink color.

Jackie Kennedy was another woman who dressed in lively colors to easily be seen at an official engagement.

Jackie’s large cranium helped her get seen as well…

I think Andrew's daughters, Beatrice and Eugenie, are the worst, in the fashion dept. The rest are ok by me.

I think she looks quite lovely; the hat is a bit much, but the dress & the color are very flattering

Beatrice has made great strides since her marriage compared with her previous looks. She’s changed her makeup too. She’ll never be a classic beauty but she’s making the best of it. I put it all down to her husband’s advice. Fergie has terrible taste.

Re Camilla’s pink outfit:

The color is off. The purple undertones make it look like a cheap mother of the bride getup.

The shiny lapel— no.

The overall quality of the fabric— looks thin and cheap. Doesn’t drape well.

Camilla could have done pink well, but this ain’t it.

Camilla looks far better dressed than either Brigitte or the prime minister.

agree with r48, pink can work well on her, but not in this particular ensemble

R38. The dress code is not as rigid as it was when Queen Elizabeth was alive but you are not going to see them wearing trouser suits on a state visit. Not is there any need to. Camilla doesn’t looking cutting edge but she looks much better dressed than the prime minister and Brigitte Macron who are trying to look more modern.

Camilla needs a decent tailor. Her hem and wrist lengths are fine. Her midsection is terrible. I get that they're attempting to provide more room to accommodate her spread, but it only ends up accentuating the area and calling attention to her fallen chest. They need to cinch it up right below her breasts to lift them up and make the waist appear smaller. Either that, or just go full muumuu.

[quote]Either that, or just go full muumuu.

That tired old mare looks as if she has some sort of fungus growing on her crown and withers.

Camilla got the hairdo in 1975 and has stuck with it ever since.

It’s a cool pink that goes with her coloring. That’s the important part.

[quote]Camilla needs a decent tailor. Her hem and wrist lengths are fine. Her midsection is terrible. I get that they're attempting to provide more room to accommodate her spread...

I'm pretty sure that extra cloth in the midsecton is designed to hide her flasks and ciggy cartons...

Charles made the right choice not to wear one of those awful double-breasted jackets he loves so much.

Dear gods, her dress for the state banquet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a muumuu with a cape, R59!

R24 it’s been an Americanism for many moons…going back to the 1850s

I think she looks good in the photo at OP. The dress, with the V on top, gives the illusion of a waist. The color looks good pn her, IMO.

Not a good color on her-that shade of pink doesn't suit her hair color or sallow complexion. Perhaps a "Nancy Reagan" red would suit her better. Don't care for the dress either, does nothing to flatter her less than perfect figure. She might look better in a more tailored looking dress or suit

Charles looks like he'd rather be anywhere else. Let's face it, he's too old and waited too long to become King. He doesn't seem to have the temperament for the job. QEII adored every freakin' minute of it-why do you think she refused to abdicate, especially in the last year or two of her reign when her health began to fail? She adored being queen; it was her whole life. I'm certain she adored Prince Philip in her own way, and by all accounts was very fond of Prince Andrew, who it would seem was her favorite child. But being Queen was most certainly the most important thing in her life.

Don't be surprised if Charles abdicates to William on his 80th birthday (if he makes it that long).

R34-Is that a real picture of Macron or photoshop? If it's real, he looks damn sexy in that picture. Justin has that photo hanging in his bedroom.

Agree with other comments about Camilla's pink outfit...perhaps she could have done without the hat. She's done without a hay on other occasions, and looks fine when she's simply dressed.

Mrs. Harry Mountbatten-Windsor of Montecito, CA, USA looked good at The Queen's funeral. She also looked good in that green dress at the Invictus Games and when pictured with her husband at the German restaurant. I did not think she looked good in shorts. She has twigs for legs and the shorts looked too big on her frame.

The Princess of Wales always looks smashing. And I find the Prince of Wales to be sexy as hell. He has a hairy chest...Woof!

Sophie dresses appropriately for a woman in her late 50s.

Letizia is the most glamorous royal woman.

Mathilde is lovely.

If you want to have fun with how royal women dress, have a field day with the Dutch on a current, state outing:

I think Camilla looks great in the navy blue and the sapphires quite wonderful

I think Meghan and Harry are perfect DL fodder. Two nobodies that got plopped into a pot of jam. They exist to be mocked and made fun of. And that's part of why we're here. Like making fun of the antics of Patti Lupone. But what makes Megs and Harry so special is that they have no talent of any kind and can do nothing but stumble through life thinking the world of themselves.

[quote] QEII adored every freakin' minute of it-why do you think she refused to abdicate, especially in the last year or two of her reign when her health began to fail?

There was never even the tiniest chance that QEII would abdicate and join a club whose only other member was her disgraced uncle, who had landed her father with a job which he didn’t want and which almost everyone expected him to be terrible at.

She looks like she’s going to church. Wearing a bathrobe.

Even if Edward did not abdicate Elizabeth would have been Queen no matter what. You think he and Simpson were going to have a kid? Even if he had married a younger woman he was impotent.

She's inveterately frumpy. Just can't help it.

Macron wears a wig now, right?

I think Camilla looks a bit too much for a day event, there is a wedding vibe to the outfit (some say isthe hat, but i think is the necklace). What i really can’t believe is that some of you are saying that the Queen EII was more attractive than her. From her 40s onwards. Elizabeth looked (and dress) like a middle class woman on her grandson’s wedding day. And she was short and sturdy, bodiwise.

Mme. Macron has one of strangest bodies i remember seeing. And she always look neckless, dont know if it is the hairdo or if she really has no neck. No clothing can disguise this . It would perhaps help if she didn’t alwys look so sullen.

[quote]It would perhaps help if she didn’t alwys look so sullen.

The bitch hasn't eaten a meal in years. She's hangry.

[quote] Even if Edward did not abdicate Elizabeth would have been Queen no matter what. You think he and Simpson were going to have a kid? Even if he had married a younger woman he was impotent.

Elizabeth’s objection to abdication was not that it made her Queen, but that it made her father king - much against his will - and contributed to his early death. She was never going to let her father down by taking the same action as Edward VIII. For her, as for her father, the line of succession was non-negotiable.

And, with the benefit of hindsight, we can look back now and see that the crown was always going to end up on Elizabeth’s head, but I suspect that was much less of a certainty to people in 1936.

A tailor could also stitch some paper bags into the collars of her outfits.

It’d do wonders…for us…

Charles is going to go look for Edward VII's special sex chair he had made for when he frequented the Paris brothels.

[quote]Brigitte Macron looks fabulous.

Except for that wig.

[quote] Agree with other comments about Camilla's pink outfit...perhaps she could have done without the hat. She's done without a hay on other occasions,

Enough with these horse jokes.

People did not know that Edward was impotent so even if people did not know it was Elizabeth who would rule eventually no matter what. It didn't help that her father smoked like a chimney. He could have lived at least another 20 years and she could have raised a halfway decent family and Philip could have had the career he wanted.

Both women look awful. Brigitte Macron looks like an aging tramp with a wig and spray tan and ridiculous shoes. She’s like someone’s desperate old aunt who thinks she looks great, but everyone else is thinking is, “Fuck, I hope I don’t have to help deal with it if that glass-boned old broad falls off those shoes and breaks a hip.”

Camilla is wearing way, WAY too much pink. It’s not a bad color on her and might work if she had the figure to pull off an outfit with less material. But the huge amount of poorly tailored cheap/looking pink material is awful. It looks like something someone’s great grandmother would wear to a wedding in Ohio. In 1983. The comments about her needing her boobs hitched up and her waist cinched in are spot on.

If she wants to be comfortable she should wear a darker neutral suit or dress and a bright blouse or scarf. Or buck up and wear a girdle and industrial strength bra and a tailored pink dress. But not that.

………..

She looks wonderful; bright colors suit her.

[quote] One of my forever favorites of Camilla is the outfit she wore to get married.

Which time?

I believe something here once said that a lot of Her Late Majesty’s highly visible outfits worn on the many walk about peasant meet and greets were costume or stage quality rather than what we’d call real clothes. I think this pink get up of Queen Camilla is more costume than clothing.

[quote] I think Andrew's daughters, Beatrice and Eugenie, are the worst, in the fashion dept

It's difficult to dress farm animals.

She the sense of style of a stop sign.

Cammy's beginning to develop a humpback, just like her late mother in law who looked like she should have been hanging from the bells of Notre Dame by the time she sauntered off this mortal coil.

[quote] Cammy's beginning to develop a humpback, just like her late mother in law who looked like she should have been hanging from the bells of Notre Dame by the time she sauntered off this mortal coil.

I’m sure your back was ramrod straight way back when you were in your nineties, r86.

R64 - fat Dutch people. Interesting. Or rather, entertaining. They're pretty ugly, to boot. I'll never understand monarchies in advanced countries.

R86 😆 too funny.

R87, R89 has a much better sense of humor than you. Mind your manners and you'll keep your friends.

I’m not sure how you have concluded that I am ill-mannered, r90, but thank you for your advice. I will give it the consideration it deserves.

We miss Lilibet every bloody day.😂

Lilibet knew how to put lead pellets in her hems to keep her skirts down. A professional monarch.

Amateur.

Brits actually pay for these clowns? They can't even do the minimal asked of them in a competent way. Yet you fraus hold them up as the avatars of majestic dignity and deportment. White trash cosplay drunks and the twits who grovel to them😂

^ Obviously a clueless American who does not understand the inborn need of Britons to debase themselves before their "betters". We British are a servile people. That's who we are.

^ In the 21st century anyone who believes this is "normal" behavior is mentally ill.

The state dinner at the Palace of Versailles looks divine.

Their Majesties receive the homage of the cheering crowds in Paris. Charles and Camilla certainly have that royal "magic" Vive le Roi

^ Crowds are zero deep.😂

They should have popped in at the Eiffel Tower the way Willy just happened to show up at the WTC memorial. Pa is not as savvy the media whore as his eldest son .

That’s all him, r63. Monsieur likes to show off.

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I live in Versailles as did my parents until recently but we've been so busy emptying their apartment that I did not follow the news at all and then took off to their country home and wondered why the police and la gendarmerie was everywhere in Versailles. So a big thank you to the datalounge, without which I would have no ideas what my local news are and why the police was everywhere in town last night as I was driving away. Anything else I should know about? Are Feinstein, McTurtle, Jamie Foxx and Madonna still playing picket-ball or did one of them upgrade their journey to the ultimate one?

Aren't most of the people in that photo Danes, r96? The woman being "servile" is in fact Danish actress Sofie Grabol and the photo was taken in Copenhagen, so your "evidence" is not an example in any way of how the British like to be "servile". Perhaps that's the Danish form of "curtsying", a kind of fist bump while leaning towards the ground. Are the socialist (as Americans like to see them) egalitarian Danes "servile"?

Here's another photo of Camilla and Sofie Grabol. They seem to be quite pally. Looks like Camilla is a The Kiling fan.

[quote]sauntered off this mortal coil

Oh, dear.

Charles got a huge ovation after addressing the French assembly. The French love it when posh Brits speak French of course, and the BRF has always kept up the tradition of its members being fluent in French (not sure this is true for the William/Harry generation).

Camilla’s sense of style can best be described as “Mother of the bride on a budget.”

Macron is now bald as an egg, right?

I mean the French PM, not his wife.

Camilla looks fab in Dior.

r110 That dress actually suits her pretty well. Not sure about Charles suit though, and he's usually the better dressed of the two.

Oh please. Kudos to Dior for making money, but she might as be wearing an unrolled bolt of black fabric from Michael’s.

Wow.

Well done, Queen Camilla, at r110.

And way to perfectly show-off the necklace and earrings. They're wearing Camilla, but, in this instance, that's a good thing.

I'm enjoying the hysterical arguments going on in the comments "Q:HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO DIANA DIOR!!!" "A: For fucks sake they're a fashion company she paid them, and Diana's been dead over a quarter of a century.

So encouraging to see Andre-Leon Talley's wardrobe being repurposed ...

she does look good though

Both Charles and William should both be thanking their Royal stars that Camilla and Catherine stuck around and married them.

R6 I suspect that whoever fitted Brigitte for that skirt when a tad higher to accommodate her stride. She takes a fairly large step for a person her size. A longer skirt would have made that awkward. In this case, form follows function.

R109 Macron is neither prime minister nor the prime minister’s wife.

r63 there has never been a statement made by the queen that indicated she enjoyed or even came close to adoring her job as queen. When asked by like children or something if she liked her job she always dodged the answer. She had some fun with the job but anyone that's followed her can tell it's not a position she would have chosen.

She just accepted her fait and got on with the whole thing. Same way many many women from her era and before just accept the fait of marriages that might have been less than ideal. When there are no other options you either fight it, mentally/emotionally shut down, or make the best of your lot in life. Elizabeth was a very good leader because she made a decision to accept her lot in life and publicly leaned into the job.

But, I've always gotten the sense that if given a choice of queen or freedom, she would do it all over again and just be a free normal (wealthy) aristocrat with horses in the country.

Brain farts, FATE not fiat!

FATE no fait or fiat

r107 William doesn't even know a lick of Welch and he's one job was to be Prince of Wales. I doubt he's gotten off his lazy ass to learn French. Don't even get me started with Harry. God knows his English courses were probably a struggle.

r103 what's it like living among so much history? I understand there is nothing but history everywhere, especially important world history in France, but do you like to stroll the gardens or visit the palace grounds much?

What do you prefer, Versailles or Fontainebleau?

Brigitte Macron looks like an underfed monkey. However, her taste in clothing impeccable.

William probably knows how to spell 'Welsh' at least, R122 - unlike you.

Slightly off topic-I'm sure it's been discussed on DL several times before, but what is the real reason Charles and Camilla didn't marry in the first place? Was it something to do with the fact that she wasn't a "virgin"? Was there really something in their "Constitution" or whatever their equivalent that stated the heir to the throne must marry a virgin? In 1981 (sorry forgot the exact year they married), was there a virginity test?

I may be totally off base, but I could swear I read somewhere that the BRF disapproved of Camilla because she had a bit of a "reputation".

No matter what we think of either of them, by all accounts they do seem to "love"(that word can mean so many different things to different people), or at care for each other a great deal

Look, we now know that Diana was a very disturbed woman with severe emotional problems, but I don't think it's a huge stretch that many of her mental issues came from Charles and Camilla's relationship during their marriage. What was she 19 when they were married? Perhaps they're a little more sophisticated and mature in England, but still I think 19 is/was way too young to take on that very public royal life, especially being married to a man who never loved you and openly carries on with his former lover.

Just out of morbid curiosity, what would have happened if Diana hadn't tragically died in that horrible (and yes, totally avoidable) accident? Would Charles and Camilla havebeen allowed to marry in the COE? Is there such a thing as an annulment like in the Catholic Church? Would they have married in Scotland like Princess Anne did when she remarried? Would Charles and Camilla not have gotten married? Is it conceivable that they could have lived together without marrying? Would the British public ever have accepted that?

Please forgive my ignorance, but way off topic, is gay marriage legal in England? If so, is it recognized by the COE? Can it be performed by an Episcopal Priest? I know Elton John is married, did he marry in England?

Charles has the ugliest sausage fingers. And they are always red.

As I recall, R126, Charles wanted to marry her but she was in an on again off again with Tom Parker Bowles. And she wasn't quite ready. v The set Charles socialized with were the upper class nobility but they were a partying and polo crowd. His family was concerned that his social set would not reflect well on the future monarch. Meanwhile Uncle Dickie Mountbatten and his Grandmother, both of whom he was close to encouraged him to wait. He had to go into military service, and while he was gone, Camilla and Tom finally agreed to marry. Charles was devastated and eventually resigned himself to making the best of the situation and finding a suitable girl for the good of the RF.

Yikes, what's with Chuck's hands? They've been reddish and swollen looking for quite awhile, but they are bright red now.

R128

[quote] she was in an on again off again with Tom Parker Bowles..

No.

It was Andrew Parker Bowles.

Tom Parker Bowles is the son of Andrew Parker Bowles and Camilla.

Thanks, R130. I messed up. I will also add that ANDREW Parker Bowles fooled around a lot, even after his marriage to Camilla. He once had an affair with Princess Anne back in the day, but not after he married Camilla, just while they were engaged.

[QUOTE]BRF has always kept up the tradition of its members being fluent in French (not sure this is true for the William/Harry generation).

Wouldn't a school of Eton's caliber have a foreign language requirement?

[quote]Charles was devastated and eventually resigned himself to making the best of the situation and finding a suitable girl for the good of the RF.

While he continued to fuck Camilla for the good of his dick.

[quote]Both Charles and William should both be thanking their Royal stars that Camilla and Catherine stuck around and married them.

true of almost any long-term marriage; believe me

William and Kate are known to spend their holidays in France…he probably speaks French. Meanwhile, Harry, like his grandfather, speaks passable German.

[quote]Harry, like his grandfather, speaks passable German.

find that hard to believe, but ok

Finally watched the OP's video. Macron kept touching Charles lol. Wonder if it was to snub his nose at the Brits and expectations. I really can't figure Manny out. But he's cute. And I think his wife is quite lovely, esp for her age. Wish I knew the ins and outs of that relationship.

Oh, and pink is fine but the hat's a bit ove the top. The outfit is wearing her.

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R128, I’ve read that Charles was the one who was dithering—totally in character—because she wasn’t as pure as driven snow and he didn’t want to force the issue with his parents. Then he went off on a long navy tour and she married Parker Bowles. Although even back then, women were fine with dating him but had no interest in becoming queen. Also Mountbatten was pushing one of his daughters as a suitable match (she wasn’t interested either).

German was literally Philip's mother tongue and the language of his early life and schooling, r135, so I doubt Harry speaks German as well as his grandfather did.

Camilla makes Margaret Hamilton look like Elizabeth Taylor! Chaz picked HER over Diana?

of course, R118

I'll rephrase.

French President Macron is bald as an egg, right?

How do we propose to divide up the task of responding to R126’s questions?

R122. If William did learn and speak Welsh, more than 70 percent of the Welsh population would have no idea what he is saying. It is a pity William has so little knowledge of languages other than English, but learning Welsh is probably not the best use of his time.

William is studying Welsh and has pulled it out at least once since becoming the P o W

[quote]William doesn't even know a lick of Welch

I'm sure he knows at least a few phrases. Even I know "diolch" and I'm an American.

William could be fluent in several languages if the family had hired native speakers, such as nannies, to speak with him when he was a child. It’s not as if there was any doubt that his future involved international relations. Being trained from an early age in foreign languages would seem to be one of the advantages of a hereditary head of state.

R141 I miss Philip. That is all.

Yes, R148. I'm surprised he only started learning Welsh *after* becoming the Prince of Wales. He should have been speaking Welsh with a Welsh nanny from birth. I mean...there wasn't any doubt he was going to become the Prince of Wales. It wasn't a "maybe." He was destined to become P o W and it is shocking that he wasn't given lessons as a child.

Charles and Diana both made an effort to learn Welsh, and William and Harry used the surname Wales while serving in the military. It is pretty shocking William is only now making an effort to learn the language.

Truth be told, the title Prince of Wales was always intended to remind the Welsh they were firmly under the boot of the English. Maybe it’s time to retire the title once and for all.

R151 Retire the monarchy while you're at it.

Love the color on her. I think they both look good. I have spoken!!!

Shocking. SHOCKING!!!

Harry speaks German? What a friggin joke! He barely speaks English.

Honestly, I watched a couple of interviews when he was plugging his book-He can barely complete a coherent sentence.

If he weren't the "Duke of Sussex", I think the best he could find in the way of employment would have been as a long distance truck driver or maybe a bartender or a hospital orderly. Nothing requiring anything too cerebral.

Camilla went with a granny Barbie pink theme. Emmanuel Macron can play her cougar catch Ken.

[quote]If he weren't the "Duke of Sussex", I think the best he could find in the way of employment would have been as a long distance truck driver or maybe a bartender or a hospital orderly. Nothing requiring anything too cerebral.

I picture him mixing paint at Lowe's and screwing it up.

Hard to blame William, since the vast majority of Welsh people can't speak Welsh and aren't trying to learn it. He's also Duke of Cornwall, so maybe should also learn Cornish, to talk to the three other people who speak it?

Isn't Welsh extraordinarily difficult to learn?

From what I've read, William has developed an interest in learning languages and he speaks French, and is learning Welsh. Harry has said publicly, he has tried and found it difficult to master foreign languages, but he tries to show respect by fumbling through. He joked about it when he was in Germany. He said a few sentences of German, and admitted he was very poor at it.

Until the current king, most Belgian kings haven’t been entirely comfortable in Dutch, and it’s the majority language.

It took Maxima a long time to gain decent fluency in Dutch. The same for Mary and Danish. Ya gotta put in the work.

I found it funny to learn that many royals converse in the one language they all know: Ingrish!

When the “Greek-Danish” royals hang with their “Spanish-Greek” royal relations…English only.

I suspect Queen Sophia talks in Greek with her elder nieces and nephews, and perhaps even Spanish. Pavlos, Alexia and Nicholas all know Greek and Alexia lives in Spain. Their Danish mother, Anne-Marie, sister of Queen Margrethe, may have taught them some Danish.

I suspect you overstate your case.

Macron isn’t bald, but he has always had a progressively aggressive widow’s peak. He now has a bald spot that they cover using hairdressing gymnastics, though you can see it if you’re looking for it.

He honestly looks best when he lets his naturally curly hair get long and unruly. That look would buy him some more time, though I think he’ll still look sexy as a balding old man, in that northern French way.

Have there been any serious gay rumors about Macron (outside of DL that is)?

Honestly, would any reasonably handsome, extremely successful and self-confident straight man marry that elderly, unattractive bag of bones? Was she very wealthy? Did he marry her for her money? We're not exactly talking Elizabeth Taylor and Larry Fortensky here.

I mean there are several gorgeous, well-preserved older women whom straight men might find sexually attractive, but I can't bring myself to believe that she's one of them.

I know that French men think nothing of kissing each other on the cheeks (face--watch it guys!) as a form of greeting, but I think he and Trudeau seem to be taking to a different level.

What does Juan Carlos have to do with what language Sofia speaks to her relatives in, r166?

Major Johnny looks like a major asshole. I guess you’d have to be if you’re desperate to become the King’s Task Rabbit.

He looks like the type to save every news clipping with his face in the background. I know the adherence to his kilt wearing was a way to pas that resume at the amusement of the royals.

I don’t trust hot guys with a permanent smirk on their faces. Johnny is always finding the camera and smirking.

Pad* his resume.

R158. It’s really NOT hard to blame William and his parents for his lack of Welsh. From a PR perspective it would have made sense for him to know it by now.

And unlike actual Welsh people, William is the only person on those isles, not names Charles or George, that would have a chance to become the prince of the Wales.

It shows a lack of dedication to their job and role. William is as lazy.

If Anne and her brood had been the heirs, trust me she and her son would be fluent in Welsh.

Don’t think I’d believe Harry would do any better. He’d be an actual disaster. William is just lackluster as hell. Both men benefit from far more beautiful and interesting spouses propping them up.

Learn to read R169 it was just a single example, among many. ¿Comprende?

R172, you sound American so you're probably not aware of it but Welsh is pretty much a dead language and no one uses it. Those people who are supposedly Welsh-speakers have learnt it by choice and not because it's their native language, what they grew up speaking at home or in their community. It's like pretending that there are still native French speakers in Louisiana.

Here's the website of the Welsh Parliament, the elected political body of Wales. It's all in English.

I mean I'd hazard a guess that 70%+ of the people who speak Welsh day to day are also Welsh nationalists. And him learning Welsh isn't going to soften your average Plaid voter anymore than learning Irish would an Irish nationalist. So yeah it'd have been a nice gesture but its not exactly important.

Don’t compare the Irish to those lowly Welshmen—you feckin’ Brit.

At least William (and Kate) lived for several years in Wales.

[quote] Major Johnny looks like a major asshole. I guess you’d have to be if you’re desperate to become the King’s Task Rabbit. He looks like the type to save every news clipping with his face in the background. I know the adherence to his kilt wearing was a way to pas that resume at the amusement of the royals.

What on earth does this mean? Major Johnny wears a kilt because he is an officer in the 5th Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland.

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There was no actual requirement for Charles to marry a virgin. It was expected for his bride to be “without a past” simply because they didn’t want a former boyfriend coming forward and telling tales to the tabloids.

Her Majesty really needs to visit a Parisian hairdresser.

How hard is it to learn another language? Especially when your "job" is Prince of the people who speak that language?

These people are all such losers. They do nothing and serve no purpose and they STILL manage to be useless at it!

The person on this board who think William absolutely should know Welsh is the only person I have ever heard make that complaint. As noted above, he’s probably American. If William knew the language, he would have virtually no occasion to use it, even in Wales. He would have to be dubbed into English.

If William is lazy for not learning it, so are all the other British monarchs of the last six centuries or so.

There are Gaelic speakers in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Does William need to learn that as well?

"Prince of the people who speak that language" - There are no people who speak that language, r182.

r176 I'll give you 3 guesses where St. Patrick was actually from.

What does that have to to with the price of milk?

Dumb & Dumber^

^^^There are no people who speak it as a [italic]first [/italic]language. And why not, R183? Why don't the Welsh speak their national language anymore, R183? Will you come out and say it's because the English colonized them and violently suppressed their culture for centuries?

Of course not. Because you are an idiot. You really thought you were making a point there. In your rush to one-up someone, you proved your extreme ignorance. Please accept my sincere gratitude.

The only Welsh people likely to feel strongly about William not speaking Welsh are very likely to be ardent Welsh nationalists and republicans, so he would derive zero credit for his effort.

He’s better following his dad’s example and learning enough French/German to be able to read out a speech.

R187. Oh dear. You are unhinged.

R187, you're a complete tit.

r187 How dare those English in the 15th century not behave in a kinder manner I guess. Anyway the introduction of the Welsh bible by Elizabeth I probably is what saved the Welsh language to the extent it was able to survive even in the reduced fashion it does now.. So swings and roundabouts. Their culture is at least survivng better than the Breton culture in France which is a similar Celtic nation absorbed into a larger nation next door situation.

okay ladies, take it outside

If the evils of colonialism were the cause if the demise of the Welsh language, then it would have died out much earlier than it did. Welsh survived as the majority language in Wales for 600 years after the conquest by Edward I, until the beginning of the 20th century, and it can be argued that modern mass media was to blame for its decline.

As radio, cinema and television became widespread, Wales happily consumed the media which came from England (which has a population 16 times that of Wales) the influence of English just drowned out Welsh.

21 posts since R172 and no one has challenged his statement about William and Harry's "far more beautiful and interesting spouses"? Specifically regarding the Duchess of Montecito. In what solar system would she be considered beautiful, or even interesting for that matter? She's average looking at best, due to a ton of plastic surgery, professionally done make up and hair, and wildly expensive designer clothes she could never have afforded on her totally mediocre career as a D-minus list actress.

Interesting? The only and I stress only reason she is of any interest to anyone on the planet, is because of whom she is married to.

I must confess I really don't find Kate "beautiful". Yes, she is stunningly attractive, and does give off a somewhat "regal bearing", but I don't really find her to be "beautiful". Again, the hair make up and elegantly tailored designer clothes complete the package. As for interesting, I can honestly say I've never heard her utter a complete sentence, so I have no idea of the level of her intelligence and/or sophistication.

In that photo posted of Charles and Major Johnny, it is very clear from Charles expression he has just let loose a loud wet fart.

Erna for the love of God just one thread...

Now the dresses Camilla is wearing for her daytime appearances have been just fine. I was watching a video of her walking down a long walkway, under an arch and then crossing over to shake hands with tourists, and her gait is odd. It looks like she has to make an effort to put one foot in front of the other. Now I haven't noticed her shakes during this visit, but her gait is definitely indicative of some kind of problem. I have to wonder again about Parkinson's or maybe a very light stroke. I think these outings are tiring for her. She will disappear from view after the get back home and take several days off to rest.

R110 Dior makes auto accessories? Who knew.

We are so proud. Charlie can grift in six languages.

R197, it has been reported that she has a bad back. Both her mother and grandmother suffered from osteoporosis. Either of these things would make it very difficult to cope with state visits, with constant travel, photo opps, walking. This visit to France apparently involves 22 different events over 3 days, which would be a lot even for the healthiest 76 year-old.

I’ve thought that she looks far more confident on this trip than she did at the Coronation, where she looked simply terrified throughout. I wonder whether her walking/shaking issues are simply nerves. Charles has had a lifetime at the centre of attention, but Camilla, even when a member of the Royal Family, seemed content to recede into the background. She can’t do that anymore: on a State occasion all eyes are on her, waiting for the slightest faux pas. I’d be terrified too!

Shroud for a corpse.

R200 Are you thick or drunk? Perhaps both?

How can you twits look at this decaying palsied side piece slag and with a straight face say "HOW REGAL!" She's a sows ear and always will be.

I never comment in these royal threads but on the news this morning was footage of Charles addressing the French parliament in French and then Camilla delivering a speech in French and both of them speak dreadful French. Slow, unsure and badly pronounced. Awful. I would have expected them both to speak perfectly enunciated French as a King and Queen. They both need lessons stat. It was very embarrassing viewing.

I bet Macron was glad it was only Camilla’s hand he had to kiss and not those lobster red sausages Charles sports.

My god, it looks like the meat is about to slide off the bone. He’s done, cooks!

[QUOTE]. I would have expected them both to speak perfectly enunciated French as a King and Queen.

Why did you expect this? This isn't a frivolous question. Why would elderly British royals who haven't used any French regularly outside of secondary or finishing school nearly six decades ago be expected to perform like elocution parrots? Do other Heads of State do the same while visiting Britain? Or the U.S., for that matter.

You sound plausibly mentally slow from a diagnostic perspective, so it's really wonderful how the internet permits you socialization outside your normal peer groups to sample Paree, as Uncle Cletus likes to repeat.

[QUOTE]it has been reported that she has a bad back. Both her mother and grandmother suffered from osteoporosis.

Camilla's mother Rosalind Cubitt actually died from her osteoporosis, a reason why her daughter took up the cause as a Royal patron.

Perhaps ingenue Catherine Zeta Jones could tutor William in Welsh?

William probably knows better Welsh than Catherine Zeta Jones.

William speaks French. Probably not fluently but he can get by for sure.

As for the King speaking bad French? Non. The French was impeccable. But he speaks French with an English accent - duh!

People get SO pissed when I say that Diana was actually the side chick. Despite being married to him, Camilia was there before, during, and after. That ain't no side chick.

R204. Was Charles’ French pronunciation actually wrong.? It didn’t seem so to me, but I’m not native. He does have a very heavy English accent.

How many elected heads of state speak any French these days?

How many languages is Charles required to know?

It’s hard to truly judge how well Charles speaks French, because his speeches are well written and practiced so that his grammar and vocabulary seem to be excellent. However, his pronunciation is typical of an Englishman of his age and background: he uses the correct words, but he never really attempts to hide his own accent by mimicking a native French accent. Fortunately, many French people are charmed by this.

It’s clear that Charles speaks French at least as well as Macron speaks English. Like Charles speaking French, Macron when speaking English has excellent vocabulary and grammar, but his French accent comes through very strongly.

I do wonder whether men of their status feel that it is beneath their dignity to sound as if they are trying too hard. Former UK PM Ted Heath took the same approach: his knowledge of French was extensive, but he spoke every word in an upper-class English accent (even though he was middle-class).

hairpiece

it isn't even the same color as his sideburns

Queen Cami looking timeless in faux leopard-print

Fluency and a non-native accent are two different things. Fluency does not require a native accent, by any means.

R214, she looks like she should be wandering a casino with a bucket of quarters.

Also, see the link for leopard print done right.

When she died, Diana was 40 years younger than Camilla is now. There's no point comparing Camilla at 76 with Diana.

[quote] People get SO pissed when I say that Diana was actually the side chick. Despite being married to him, Camilia was there before, during, and after. That ain't no side chick.

And this is why I think Charles’ behavior was unforgivable, even if Diana was a nut. She was a teenager and he and the BRF took away her opportunity to have a life and family with a man who was a partner to her. If Diana had been 30, fine.

I don’t think Diana is a great example of wearing leopard well at r216. She looks good, but those colors don’t suit a pink complexion that well.

In r201 ‘s photo, it looks like Camilla is getting a bald spot in front.

Charles also spoke German when they were in Germany last year so that's at least 2 languages. He probably studied Latin in school so that is a great basis for picking up other European languages. Maybe he knows some Spanish? Greek?

The King's paternal aunts all married Germans and all his paternal first cousins are German.

This is a little off-topic, but I didn’t want to be despised for starting another royal thread, but I thought some people here might like to see what His Majesty gets up to when enjoying the Scottish summer…

Camilla's doing just fine on this state visit. She projects genuine warmth.

R222. Where is his security?!!!

Technically, Camilla was a side piece, too, as Charles had another woman he saw with apparent equal frequency for quite some time. The Charles-Camilla love story is a PR fairy tale. Camilla wanted Parker-Bowles (as did everyone at that time) and used Charles to bait P-B. It worked. Eventually they amicably led separate romantic lives. P-B supposedly only filed for divorce when Camilla's relationship with Charles became public. He was said to otherwise not care before the affair was outed as he had several dalliances of his own. Charles and Camilla eventually married, but for varied reasons that had less to do with love, "whatever love means".

Interesting post, R225. And it accords with what I've read, too. Do you mean Kanga Tryon? There was also the German Eva O'Neill (now mother-in-law of Princess Madeleine of Sweden). Perhaps Charles brushed up on his German with Eva.

Charles dated several women, and the media hype to present one or another as "serious" was in overdrive, but they weren't even close to being serious. Camilla was ever present in his life, and while it may be true that when she was a young woman, she first used Charles to get PB to make his move, that changed over time. She was very much attracted to Charles, but Camilla never expected to marry Charles because it went against Royal tradition and history. She thought she'd forever be his mistress, but it clearly was more than that because he made her the fucking Queen. So IMO I kind of agree with the poster who said Camilla was always his main lady.

r55, if people (especially women) are stuck with a specific hairstyle/makeup/clothing, it usually denotes that they subconsciously think those were their glory years.

You know, there's something to be said for Queen Elizabeth's image. She was never a fashionista. Never worried about what was the newest look. She was the Queen. She had her own distinctive style and it was unchanging. And she always looked very nice. I think now that she is queen Camilla needs to find a stylist to work with who can give her her own distinctive look and not concern herself with fashion. That Pepto Bismo Barbie Pink coat dress would be consigned to the trash heap.

r107, it was serviceable, but his pronunciation was okay- his "r"s are all over the place.

R229. I don’t think she was trying to be fashionable with the pink dress. If she were, she wouldn’t have chosen something so old-fashioned. It was perfectly appropriate for her positon

R231, of course she was trying to be fashionable. She combined her regular coat dress style with the current hot color of Barbie Pink.

Hmm. If you say so.

r194 you are in the minority because most people find Kate and Meghan to be beautiful women. You want to rag on them for how they reach their beauty, but they are both beautiful women. And both interesting, which you can tell because LOADS of articles are written about everything they do, wear, say, and don't say.

Of course you're allowed to have your opinion, but I find both of them to be beautiful.

r210 you can't be the side chick and the first wife. Camilla was the side chick because Charles chose to marry Diana.

They're both attractive, but beautiful?

r225 Parker Bowels was sssssoooooo ugly and damn near bald, I don't get the hype. These royals remind me of the Appalachian Americans and their taste in men. Parker Bowels was on Camilla's level looks wise, so like met like, but the way people spin his story as some country stud for the Astos makes me laugh. If this was a catch, how ugly and pathetic in the sack was every other man of that generation?

R218 But it was also an arranged marriage that according to The Crown, he didn't even want.

Meanwhile, Charles looks like James Bond compared to fugly Andrew Parker-Bowels.

r238 Charles was a 30-something year old MAN. It was his choice at the end of the day, he only has himself to blame. He shouldn't have wasted his 20s fucking loads of ugly women and instead focus on finding a spouse and queen.

R235 CHRIST, you're being too literal. Get a FUCKING sense of humor. Also, I'm right. Side chicks are affairs. PERIOD. Not decades of a relationship.

R237 he threw a mean fuck. Country house girls appreciated that.

Or it could just be, r228, that they simply like that style.

Or they realise it looks silly to be following the latest fashion in their 70s.

R240 I'm not making excuses but you act like this wasn't a 500-year tradition. I don't think he was really in a position to say no.

Thanks, R239 for my first laugh out loud moment of the day.

r241 side chicks can last decades. Hell, Charles and Diana were married for a decade so fuck off with your attempts to come for me. Diana is the wife. The wife is no side chick, no matter how Charles saw his women.

r245 actually, Charles and Liz were able to choose their own partners, unlike most of their ancestors. Liz knew the assignment and let Phillip fill her naive little head with thoughts of love. Phillip was a gold digger if we are being honest. A broke gold digger. Liz accepted and married him quick.

Charles took the more modern approach by waiting but he ended up wasting his 20s. He should have had this held down or a stand by girl ready to go, like William with Kate. Charles was only "forced" because he was taking way too long to make up his mind. But, he brought Diana into the family fold for review at Balmoral. He pushed Diana forward as a viable option, not his family. The family like and accepted her; the rest was history.

If Charles wasn't interested in using Diana as an option, she wouldn't have ever been invited to Balmoral for review. She's the only woman Charles ever invited back then so this is 90% on Charles.

R248 Phillip was not the first Royal with fantastic bloodlines and great ancestors, but not a dime to his name. And as I think about it, Wasn't Prince Albert a "lesser" broke noble when he married Queen Victoria? Phillip had a hard time at first. THe Queen Mother and most of the Royals of her circle called him "The Greek" . But who wouldn't fall for him. He was gloriously handsome to young Elizabeth. Elizabeth was not a "shopper." She found what she adored and that was it.

When your wife is Queen, of course you're "marrying up."

Having spent her whole life looking like a rather plain, tweedy, Herefordshire-Sloaney hausfrau, she’s not going more and more Babs Cartland. I think she should never have gone Essex-blonde. Mousy suited her way more.

Grrr. I meant *now* going.

This state visit was originally scheduled for the spring, which is why I expect the Barbie pink was selected.

I think Charles and Camilla had a genuine connection when they dated as twenty-somethings, but when you’re young and it’s your first serious relationship, you don’t always realize that someone is truly “the one.” It easier to move on and think you’ll find something similar with a new person down the road. It’s only when you’re older, you realize those feelings truly are special. That’s what I think happened with Charles and Camilla.

Charles' hand was not forced. Philip merely told him to make a choice - yay or nay - because the media interest in Diana was building to a frenzy.

Charles ensured Camilla was made Queen because Camilla is an extension of him and any perceived slight against Camilla is viewed as one against him. I am not saying that they do not have love or companionship or friendship between them. Merely, the 'one true love' story is a PR concoction for the unwashed masses. Marrying Charles was the best decision for Camilla, all things considered (financial straits after divorce, age, media interest). Purely from the perspective of his role, Charles would have done better to find someone else. Camilla is forever a reminder of Diana and all that baggage. Question is, who in his circles would want to be his wife with all the responsibilities it entails? Camilla is said to comfort him and smooth over his more persnickety traits, so perhaps she ended up being the best choice?

R254, Charles hand was indeed forced. He was pressured by everyone to drop Camilla, who, back then never dreamed she'd ever be anything more than a mistress, and find someone suitable. He didn't stand up to them because Camilla was married by then. Once he decided on Diana, the pressure was off. he thought he could pull it off, to have the traditional wife, and the mistress, but Diana was not compliant. She wanted to be the fairytale princess who married the prince, lived in a castle and happily ever after.Emotionally unstable, and immature, and entirely too young to handle a 30 yr old husband who would be king, and who was clearly not in love with her, not even friends.

R104 Aren't you a sycophant apologist? Whether Danes, Brits, elected Members of Parliament or Martians, anyone who grovels and kowtows to this obsolete corrupt crime family has serious mental problems and is obviously a cultist like you R104.

R255 Have you been drinking? Sober you may realize that perhaps 19 yo virgin Diana just wanted her lawfully wedded 30 yo husband to keep his tiny todger in his trousers? Too much to ask from "God's Anointed"? But you keep spinning your deranged fairytale version of victimized King Tampon and his beloved Slagmilla.

R256 = psycho.

Macron is under Major Johnny's kilt, nursing on his enormous foreskin.

You’re all improving - it took until R257 for the tired as fuck tampon joke to make an appearance.

R260, that's just the Royal GIF 'n' Meme Troll posting from her padded cell. No-one interacts with her posts, though she always gives herself a few FFs (the F5 for Refresh key on her computer has been worn down to borderline non-existence at this point).

*"gives herself a few WWs", obviously!

r249 yes, Phillip and Albert were in similar boats. Both men saw the dollar signs, easy living, and prestige of being married to the world's most powerful queens. Prince Albert's family was at least a part of a reigning house. They weren't the wealthiest and as the second oldest son, he was on a tighter budget, but at least they retained their principality.

Phillip's family was tossed out of Greece. Sure, he retained his princely titles from the Danish royal house, but unlike Albert, he was a nomad.

Put another way, Albert had a German roof over his head and lands he could always call home (he was close with his older brother). Philip, didn't have such luxuries. Hence, his uncle worked extra hard to pimp him out to simple minded Liz. He was hot, blond, tall, and looked good in a uniform, so it wasn't l all that hard to sell him to a sheltered horny teenager.

Albert did the same, but was in a lot better position in life then Phillip.

r255 you're not making sense. He wasn't forced to drop Camilla, the bitch dropped him for Andrew. She decided to put the PoW on mute and marry her fugly country buddy. She chose to have her cake and eat it too. So, if the object of your desire is married, 90% of folks move the hell on to the millions of single women who would kill to marry a prince. But since Charles is a man-baby, he decides to just give in while talking to a legitimate teenager.

Then this 30 year old man is shocked that this girl who didn't get to enjoy her 20s or develop a sense of identity before their brief marriage and courtship, suddenly shows her personality and it clashes. Yeah, a 20 something doesn't care to be around old intellectuals, horses, or whatever boring things Charles gets up to. They would have already known this if the man had properly vetted her.

If anyone was forced into that marriage it was Diana. Her family were not going to let that opportunity pass. She was only a teenager with loads of powerful adults pushing her to move forward even after some red flags started to show before the wedding.

No way can the PR team of “The Firm” make Camilla palatable. She’s homely with the morals of an alley cat. She gets a very undeserved pass.

OH MY GOSH R265, what a perfect description of the queen!

That’s a lot of daily bodily mortification for Brigitte! You can’t maintain that figure and those shapely pins without effort, extra effort.

[quote] It’s clear that Charles speaks French at least as well as Macron speaks English. Like Charles speaking French, Macron when speaking English has excellent vocabulary and grammar, but his French accent comes through very strongly.

I doubt that Charles' French is as good as Macron's English. Also, as stated, an accent is different from language proficiency (vocabulary, grammar).

We know Macron can have conversations in English, I doubt if Charles can have a full conversation in French.

I think the navy Dior caftan and cape with the sapphires the other night was the best Camilla has ever looked in public.

You can dress that horse up all you want but she's still only a door's step from the glue factory.

[quote] You can dress that horse up all you want but she's still only a door's step from the glue factory.

Neigh! Neigh!

Both are brothers from another mother.

[quote] Endlessly Frightening Cunt Camilla

fixed!

It must kill MM that Camilla was outfitted in Dior, when she was trying to get a brand ambassador position.

Someone at Dior thought dressing the Queen was more consistent with their moth eaten image. Not saying they should have gone with MM, but I am saying if there was a trade off for Camilla, they got the short end.

Yeah, r276, it's really the short end to dress the Queen of one of France's major allies at a state dinner hosted by the President and attended by dozens of dignitaries and luminaries. Dior should have held out for MM, who makes pretty much everything she wears look trashy and who is utterly clueless about appropriate deportment and demeanour. What's the value of a major diplomatic event such as a state visit when you could have MM grinning and waving wildly and crumpling whatever she's wearing.

It should also be mentioned that a major French couture fashion house dressing the Queen of the United Kingdom at a state banquet also has the symbolic meaning of underlining the importance and value of close relations between Britain and France.

EGHADS! Clutch your pearls Royalass.

^ Note they are all under 60 years of age😂

I don't think MM or Kate worry one bit about that cunt Camilla. No one gives a damn about Camilla. The world endures her but no one is threatened or worried about that old goat.

N and T could well be over 60, r280. They are also a tiny fringe group that no one gives a shit about.

R280. All nine of them (possibly).

BOLSHEVIKS !

I don't mean to be rude, but I've been watching him, and I think Charles walks around like a guy wearing a diaper full of shit.

Well done! For 9 people to pull that off. When I toured Buckingham Palace even though we had audio guides there were docents and security in every room. Recall they were pretty fug and surly barking "No pictures" if you so much as looked at your mobile. Too bad they didn't have the cheek to piss in Charlie's gilded flower pot.

R285. You are obviously a stupid American with shite for brains that does not understand that His Majesty does not have bowel movements as he is ROYALTY ANOINTED BY GOD. Your commoner octogenarian Joe Biden may have a "diaper full" but not our beloved Charles III.

r279 They're... Not exactly inspiring. Camilla after a few gins could probably have beat the into singing God Save the King. Granted she could probably do that to half of Glasgow if required.

"Not exactly inspiring"

They don't have to be inspiring they just have to be OLD and WHITE

r195 and r285 are the same poster incidentally. Poo shoes really does walk amongst us apparently.

When this snap was taken the Monarch of Great Britain was 35 years old. The President of the United States was 45 years old. Sad to see what a gerontocracy our nation's leadership has become.

R288 And these two are so bloody "inspiring"😂

Lilibet is giving JFK the same look women always give Prince Harry... snail trail .

"tiny fringe group that no one gives a shit about"

That pretty much sums up your "royal family"

But why do you care, R294? I’m serious - why are you here?

Jokes about not giving a shit would have been a lot more effective if the last 3 posts and about half the thread in general weren't just you on your period shitting blood everywhere

Rubbish! Prince William gets the same lusty look from his legion of feminine fans!

R296 you need to read your posts before you submit them - your post makes no sense.

[quote] I don't think MM or Kate worry one bit about that cunt Camilla. No one gives a damn about Camilla. The world endures her but no one is threatened or worried about that old goat.

Camilla is Charles' wife and has influence over him. I don't think either MM or Kate can afford to alienate Camilla. Frankly, aside from her causing Diana so much misery (Charles' fault as well), Camilla seems like she might be easy to get along with.

r298 Was meant for the poster you were responding to who has an entire ibb archive of royal family pictures, obsessively searches news articles about them, spams threads on DL. But who clearly doesn't care and are completely emotionally healthy. You just submitted before I finished writing. So my bad.

Camilla is easy to get along with. Warm ,grandmotherly and homicidal are the words that come to mind.

Charles is high maintenance and has a fierce temper, combined with a sense of grievance. Camilla’s job is Charles and I think many people are glad she is there to deal with his moods.

Have vids of the endlessly fascinating R300 too.

R302 I have read he is very thin skinned and can be overly sensitive and insecure. Camilla is perfect in the sense that she seems to know how to stay out of the limelight. But yes, she seems easy to get along with and her issues of literacy, books libraries, etc. are worthy neutral causes. She also seems to connect well with children and members of the public. I can see her winning people over but it will take time. I bet in two or three years Charles wil be complaining about the attention Camilla gets. He wants people to like him best.

Nah he's a perfectionist. But frankly the one genuine Achilles heel he's had for about 40 years is he genuinely loves Camilla, I don't get it but whatever. But he actually went out to bat for her against Liz and every other grey suit for two decades from the 80s, and bare in mind Harry himself couldn't beat them in the late 2010s so badly he left the country.

"a tiny fringe group that no one gives a shit about"

Keep telling yourself that Gran 😂

Getting a million views after the duchess of SuXXX cock paid CNN to post it and only getting less than 8000 likes is sadder than Harry's hairline.

Nonces of a feather.

r305 Charles only "won" against the grey suits because unlike everyone else he was about to be their boss. Prince Charles was in a different league than everyone else in the family. Same with William right now. They knew Charles was going to marry Camilla so they decided to just work on a long-term PR campaign to make her palatable by the time she took the crown. Charles didn't do anything more interesting then Andrew would have done. He threw fits like a toddler until Mommy gave in.

What's a hairline?

r310

Why do you think he wears the hats Dear?

^ Our Sides

r312 r313 you laughed at your own joke? How fucking pathetic are you?

My 3rd husband was Napoleon.

r316 Genuinely not joking apologies if your a #MeghanSxxxCock fangirl. But Harry in that picture looks like shit. Definitely pre-hairplugs.

Another entertaining evening at the Royalass freak show. Au revoir mes petits dément.

fascinating saying Harry is a bald ass bitch is what ended r318 period and made it go to sleep . Apparently even that menopausal cunt couldn't lie her way out of that..

R319 Lasik is cheap but your gastroplasty will cost ya .😂

Willy should have married Sigourney Weaver .

Get away from her you BITCH!

aww I woke you up I'd say I'm sorry but but that would be a lie

R323 Up early for a little jog in the park. Luckily no one recognized me!

r324 So William wants to get fucked up the ass. Please tell me why thats a bad thing you homophobic frau.

They are repugnant individuals whose selfishness led directly to Diana’s implosion.

HOW DARE he discover his prostate! I'm literally seething right now, no coming back from this. Fucking fags.

[quote] They are repugnant individuals whose selfishness led directly to Diana’s implosion.

Diana’s marriage was a catastrophe which should ever have happened, but Diana’s implosion began in childhood with her own parents’ disastrous marriage.

She grew up seeing her father hit her mother, and then felt deserted when her mother left the family home for another man. After her own mother’s mother testified against her, Earl Spencer was granted custody of his children. This left Diana without her mother and in the care of a man who at best could be described as volatile. She grew up feeling a sense of detachment from her mother and with a strong urge to be compliant to appease her father. She carried this on into her relationships with other men (and even with the public) throughout her life, developing a chameleon-like talent for fitting in to please those around her. This meant that she appeared like the ideal wife for Charles: she seemed to share his interests, tastes and opinions. In reality, they were incredibly different people and neither of them had a clue who they were really marrying. Charles thought he was marrying the ideal bride who knew what she was marrying into, and Diana thought she was marrying a besotted Prince Charming.

The Royal Family was a disastrous environment for Diana to marry into, but her own issues were a big part of the problem too. Her own family relationships were fractured throughout her life. Right up to her death, she was continually feuding with her mother, grandmother and siblings.

I would have thought that the webmaster had access to data that would show unusual posting patterns and maybe even unusual WW patterns (FFs are limited which means that there is some monitoring there, so why not WWs?) The Royal GIF and Meme Troll should obviously be caught in the net of such systems.

It's just a bit irritating as the paltry FF allowance means the site can't be user-moderated, and blocking doesn't really work as other users will continue to see and engage with it. That's how it colonises the thread, like a pathogen.

No matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it's still a pig!

Charles is a very spoiled oblivious. Two silly but favorite stories. He went to the kitchen to get something out of the fridge and shrieked. Camilla ran in. 'What's wrong?' 'What is THIS?' 'It's cling wrap dear.' Maybe apocryphal as his mother loved Tupperware. I wonder if she bought it at one of the parties women used to have.

After hunting for the day when he came back to the lodge he wanted poached eggs. They had to be ready the moment he came back. Before cell phones who knew when that would be except for a general time. So they would have to keep making them and throwing them out until he arrived. He has a strange idea of conservation.

FFS you Americans are shallow! This is just one of the many reasons why we all laugh at you!

Laugh all you want R332, The Americans surpassed your dying empire hundreds of years ago and your jealousy is palatable. No amount of Pomp and Circumstance is going to convince the world you are still relevant on the global platform. Brexit broke it for good. Heck, even China has surpassed your status in world politics.

There are like 2 posters in this thread who constantly post unfunny meme images and the same tired jokes in every BRF thread. It's kind of bizarre.

I've gotta give it to William, Prince of Wales.

I respect that, apparently, he's decided, "Fuck it. I'm the Prince of Wales, and, one day, King. I'm going bald. So be it. I'm not bothering with hair plugs."

Good for him.

Of course, his position, status, money, being 6 '2' and in superb physical condition help him not to have to bother. Having a real or fake head of hair isn't a required part of the job as it is for, say, a leading actor/movie star (unless you're Denzel Washington) or celebrity earning a living being a celebrity.

I also surmise that William knows the ridicule he'd come in for if he tried to fight his baldness with plugs, toupees, the latest whatever.

He just doesn't have to bother with it.

The GIFs and memes [italic]have[/italic] to be from one poster only. I refuse to believe that there are two people who are that insane. Too depressing. It's baffling enough that Markle has a single superfan in the first place.

Must be why they got such a fantastic reception from the president of France, r294, and why you're so obsessed with them.

R330 I guess that parting shot from your ex really got to you given you’ve held onto it all these years.

[quote] The Americans surpassed your dying empire hundreds of years ago and your jealousy is palatable.

I mean, even just in terms of arithmetic, this is not true. America’s period as the UK’s successor as the world’s pre-eminent power has lasted less than 100 years so far. Personally, I hope it goes on for a long time yet, but empires rise and fall, and soon it will be some other country’s turn.

Stinky smelly pussy cunt.

Your Highness, "Queen" of Whores, Lady of Rottweilers.

The smartest thing Camilla did was insist on keeping her own house after marrying Charles. When the whole royal scene becomes too much, she can escape to her own place and relax for a while.

R341 if you’re going to persist with the same tired “jokes”, at least get the styles right. Camilla hasn’t been Her Royal Highness since the death of her mother in law (you would refer to her as “Liz” or similar”).

Since she and Charles INSISTED that she wouldn't take the title of Queen when she married Chucky, I think it's alright for r341 to demote the old goat. People like r343 are so funny, getting all bent out of shape of titles of rich cunts.

Who gives a damn what someone calls Camilla. She and Charles didn't earn their rank by doing anything but sitting around waiting for an old woman to die.

^ You do know that Elizabeth II came to the throne at the death of her father? That's how it works.

[quote]There are like 2 posters in this thread who constantly post unfunny meme images and the same tired jokes in every BRF thread.

Tired jokes = tired topics. Maybe it's time to grow up and act like an adult instead of fawning all over someone you will never meet posting endlessly boring threads on anonymous gay chat boards. You will never meet Queen Camilla, she's never going to be your friend or acknowledge your existence.

Don't you think it's kind of odd to be obsessed with someone who does not even know you exist? You sound like a 14 year old girl in middle school.

Yeah. Let’s get back to relevant topics, like taking about what Madonna is doing.

Says r346 who is scolding someone on a lovely Sunday afternoon on a topic he claims no interest in rather than being out and about enjoying the fruitful life he claims to have. Tell us more about your wonderful life, please. Maybe we can live vicariously through you.

According to Diana the night before the wedding Charles told her he didn't love her. The guy has great timing. Wouldn't that have been great for Diana to have canceled the wedding of the century the night before.

'Whatever love is.' From the Prince Dimwit like his son. Diana devastated inside shows her British stiff upper lip.

R335 Your Willy Wanker will always be the loser to our True Prince Harry . Deal with it Tiny.

Didn't Diana say in a post divorce interview that their wedding night was "odd"? Wonder if she was getting back at him for telling her he didn't love her or if it really was "odd". And if so, what did he do that was so odd?

Maybe William is not looking forward to being king one day. Look at what waiting for the crown did to daddy.

[quote]Maybe William is not looking forward to being king one day.

Its a job. You just get on with it. Its a pretty fabulous job in many respects. Downsides of course, but better than many.

[quote]. Look at what waiting for the crown did to daddy.

The King was almost 74 when he acceded to the throne. It's not like he was a young man who had been weighed down by his role as heir. He was already elderly.

I suspect he would have been perfectly happy to lead the kind of life he had when the then Cambridges lived in Wales and he was a search and rescue pilot.

He got very very rich the moment that his grandmother died, so there’s that.

How much money does the Firm have, exactly?

Isn't everything paid for already? What exactly do you need money for? Your every need is taken care of.

Maintenance and up keep. Staffing. Operating expenses.

I thought that comes from the taxpayers.

They are not as wealthy as the Middle Eastern royals or the Sultan of Brunei. But richer than the Scandinavian royals and the Dutch royals.

The Dutch royals aren't poor, given their investments in oil and Shell/Dutch Petroleum. The Spanish and Norwegian royals are probably the "poorest" of the current reigning bunch.

R357 He got access to the income from the Duchy of Cornwall - 24 million GBP last financial year - when his father became King.

Supposedly the Norwegian royals are also tiara poor. That's what a YTer who does Tiara Tuesday videos said anyway.

There was a DLer who posted about tiaras. I enjoyed that. What happened to him? Did you rude bitches scare him away?

The Aquamarine Kokoshnik tiara Princess Madeleine of Sweden often wears is beautiful.

The Dutch royal family is often estimated to have greater personal wealth than the British royal family.

[QUOTE] I thought that comes from the taxpayers.

If bothered to read.

The Dutchies are fucking LOADED, which is a good thing considering how homely they have been for generations.

R350 I hope you are 13 years old coming out with that crap.

Yes Harry is so stupid, spoiled and entitled he has to be Charle's son.

The late Queen was admired even by those who had little interest in the monarchy. Much of this was down to her absolute public silence. She understood her role and played it perfectly. Charles has been whinging and complaining all his life, and his messy private life means we know a little too much about him to respect him.

r369 you could have said the same thing for all of the Windsors. William, Harry, Charles, Liz, Andrew, the York Sisters, Zarah, and Peter, have never said anything remotely thought provoking.

Anne’s kids get a pass since they’ve always been something more “private” citizens. But all of the senior royals sound like dumb hillbillies capable of reading from scripts, and have posh British accents.

What they say off the cuff makes me question this superior bloodline. Hell, if my job was to smile, waive, read speeches, go on vacation, and shop, I’d turn my brain off as well.

I’m forgot to add Anne and Edward. Sorry for forgetting Some of the fringe members.

There is some truth to what r370 said here. Charles has taken a lot of the mystery out of the BRF and being royal in general.

Thankfully William and Kate have made QEII their role model, and have based their outlook on their roles on her standards.

R371. Are you American? The idea of the British monarchy is precisely not to be thought-provoking. And the family rules by act of parliament. Only a handful of people (Harry and Meghan among them), believe in the superiority of royal blood these days. There is no expectation that the family members display innate superiority in intellect, etc.

One of the reasons the monarchy endures is that it provides a non-partisan head of state when it functions at its best. The last thing the family members should be doing is to make thought-provoking statements. It is doubtful that any of the current members of the royal family are geniuses, but their genius would be wasted in the role anyway. What the role requires is steadfastness and a minimum level of intelligence.

Anne's children are not evaluated at all because they have no official role at all in the institution.

R374 And they seem the healthiest in the bunch.

What about the cousins, and the distant royals destined to live at the Aunt Heap? Princess Michael? Princess Alexandra? Freddie Windsor?

r375 Prince and Princess Michael are some of the last cousins allowed to live at the "Aunt Heap" courtesy of the King. The practice of providing palace housing for all kinds of distant relatives ended decades ago, and came to a firm end with QEII's passing. And even Prince Michael, I believe, has to pay some kind of market rate rent to continue to live at KP - perhaps King Charles "subsidizes" this out of his own funds, but they are not living there on the taxpayer's dime.

Their children will have their own homes. It's questionable whether Beatrice and Eugenie will even be allowed to live at any royal palace or at Windsor, at market rate or not. They are probably going to be expected to purchase or rent their own homes like everyone else.

'What the role requires is steadfastness and a minimum level of intelligence.'

Which is not even met.

r374 please stop pretending the monarch is why the UK continues to exist. That’s just the lie the government pushes so that you all can be distracted.

If that’s true, then you’ll have to explain why so many republics continue to exist. You’ll have to explain why the English continued to have a functional government between the reign of Charles I and Charles II.

Having a monarchy is a nice cultural point but I don’t think Liz Windsor or Charlie Windsor, or William Windsor are the glue holding your nation together. Especially with so many youthful people becoming increasingly indifferent to the monarchy while retaining a strong ties to Britain.

A lot of the BS you guys spew about royals is just bedtime storybook type of PR. Nothing more, noting less. Your PMs would still be good, bad, or great with out without a monarch.

[quote]please stop pretending the monarch is why the UK continues to exist.

^ Where did R374 say this?

R374. I think your reply referenced my post by accident. I struggle to find where I talk about the monarch being responsible for the UK's existence or it being the glue that holds the country together. You either imagined this argument or read someone else's post. Or perhaps you don't know much about the British constitution you just assumed this was an argument I would make and wanted to attack it.

Although you are responding to someone else's post, I will point out.

1. There are some deeply ignorant people in the UK, as in any country, but it is generally known that many, in fact, most countries do not have monarchs. The retention of the monarchy has never rested on a policy of keeping people in the dark about the existence of republics. Again, I think you need to familiarize yourself a bit more about the British monarchy and the British view of it in at least a rudimentary sense since ignorance of republics is not a prominent pillar of support for the monarchy.

2. The 17th century interregnum is not a period when things were going really great. There are probably better examples of king-less societies you could cite than that one.

3. Again, because you are perhaps American, you are not very aware of any system but your own. A combined head of state and head of government is not really a part of the debate about the monarchy in the UK. It is generally assumed that the replacement for the king would be an elected head of state, not the prime minister. Parliamentary systems rarely if I ever have the prime minister also function as head of state. The proposal would seem bizarre to most residents of parliamentary democracy. Nor is there much indication that most British prime ministers would relish taking over the ceremonial duties of the monarch in addition to their governmental responsibilities. No one thinks the king improves the prime minister. People do think the king performs functions the prime minister doesn't perform in the UK or in any other parliamentary democracy I know of.

Your arguments are typical of Americans, a certain significant percentage of whom do have a fairy tale view of the monarchy and then criticize British people for having a fairy tale view. I can assure you the kinds of deep misunderstandings you have about the monarchy and parliamentary democracies are not widespread in the UK. They are much more prevalent among Americans. 3.

Well one thing we know with certainty is that King Charles is a great protector of criminals. Jimmy Saville and his type whether it is his personal assistant or cardinals and bishops.

If the monarch were removed, the "United Kingdom..." might become the "United Republic..." or more likely just revert to "Great Britain", thereby removing the official reference to Northern Ireland, like they've done to Wales for centuries. I can't see Northern Ireland thinking it's worth the EU trouble to stay attached and that would also likely accelerate Scotland's independence movement, leaving merry old "England" (and Wales) once more.

Duchess of Bulimia works her "magic" on her adoring "fans".😂

If that the best you can do, r383, give up.

"Again, because you are perhaps American, you are not very aware of any system but your own."

Typical Royalass rubbish. 99.9% of Brits couldn't distinguish between Edward VIII and George VI if you held a gun to their thick heads.

You pedantic snobbery is as laughable as your archaic monarchy. R380

R384 getting better Tiny 😂

Simply the "best"😂

^ At least Willy's touching his wife in that one.

How can you keep a straight face?😂

^ and his little dog too!

R389 based on your posting history, you’re really rather obsessed, aren’t you? What is it about the British Royal Family that threatens you so much? Why do you care so much? You sometimes pretend not to be American in some of your hundreds of responses - why is that? It all seems like a lot of work considering how little you allegedly care about them.

There was a clip yesterday on Instagram I think of Kate leaving a place and a little boy called out Hello Princess and she came over to talk to him. It was really sweet.

^

My favorite Kate moment with kids was the little boy who spoke to her on Poppy Day. "What's your name?"

Nobody in the UK thinks about the royal family as much as some Americans appear to.

That may well be, but as an outsider I have to say that the two Royals who seem to have instant rapport with kids are Katherine, and previously Harry when he was still part of things. It' a very natural warmth. Everyone else is pleasant enough but Katherine has something special with children. If I were their PR strategist, I'd trot Katherine with a bunch of kids out whenever there's a scandal they don't want people to notice.

I'm a fan of Alex O'Connor and love to hear him eviscerate the monarchy.

That said, there are several I like - Edward, Sophie, Kate, and (kinda sorta) William. Oh and the children are fine. The rest can take a slow boat to China. (god I feel like 100 years old coming up with that phrase)

R396 "Katherine has something special with children."

Children sense her sincerity..

Thank the Lord children sense the evil in that Wog Woman and want nothing to do with her!!!!

Harry still has that gift for children in him but now I see it as totally fake when he did not even consider his niece and nephews the way he tore his own family apart. Now it is nothing but pure publicity.

R400 Sure Klan.

^ Phony is their middle name.🤮

Wog woman. Oh wait, you don’t hate Meghan because she is part black 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Fuck you r399 and your whore mother.

"Endlessly Fascinating," OP? REALLY??????

R401 You like that self pitying piece of garbage Harry and his wife who won't listen to her favorite singer Mariah anymore because Carey threw the word diva right back in Meghan's face? No matter who you call a member of the klan Megs is not going to give a nobody like you the time of day.

R403 meet R405

[quote]Harry still has that gift for children in him but now I see it as totally fake when he did not even consider his niece and nephews the way he tore his own family apart.

I agree, R400. He's a horrible uncle, it's cruel what he's done. And his kids (if they actually exist) will suffer from not being allowed to grow up with their cousins. What a senseless, needless mess.

Or the love of either grandfather and their aunts and uncles. But Harry hates his family because its royal and subject to protocols and Meghan hates her family because their poor and embarrass her. These two are pieces of work.

Their children have no aunts. They have one uncle—that’s it.

I thought this thread was a jokey thread about Camilla and Charles. But I must say I am impressed with the very scary posters who have so much intimate knowledge of members of the RF so that they know what's going on in their personal lives and even have the ability to read minds, knowing the sadness and the emotional deprivation and cruelties and meanness of their hearts. My goodness. You ought to be writing fan fiction. If you're not you're missing an opportunity. The other thing you ought to do in your clearly overwrought state is get help. Those people don't even know you exist. They don't care about you, and your vitriol and judgements about their lives. If your ass was on fire they wouldn't even piss on you to put it out.

Why are you here R410? Does that not apply to all the "celebrities" posted about on a gay gossip site. What part of that did you miss? Or are you just a sanctimonious dolt stating the obvious?

Any thread on Datalounge has the potential to be hijacked by the Harry/Meghan haters. They’re so obsessed with them they can’t help themselves.

Don't forget the Meghistans. Both groups van be annoying.

The 'stans are dumb as hell. They seem shocked that people are interested in the BRF.

M and H’s kids? They have an Aunt Kate and an Aunt Samantha. On paper any way.

They are dead to them

R410 (yes, this fucking thread has hundreds of responses) has restored my faith in humanity.

I enjoy gossip as much as the next person, but some of you are so emotionally invested in the Windsors, you have no idea how insane you come across. Jesus Christ, go outside…touch grass.

ROTA is shilling the Palace line that Katy is not going with her beloved "hubby" to Singapore because she must spend time with her children. Of course saying Willy can't stand the site of old vomit breath would be a bit too spot on.

With two full time nannies and a staff of 60 sure mummy just can't leave her"infants" behind for two days. A hands on loving mother in the finest tradition of the Royals.😂

The royal family exists to be made fun of for DLers in fact for everyone. I think some of you have found yourselves on the wrong site. If you take the monarchy so seriously you might want to write them fan letters.

R420 you’re obviously slightly unhinged but on what planet do you live where it’s possible to travel from London to Singapore, stay for a couple of days then travel back in two days?

Why do you hate her so much?

One thing is for sure, Sir Elton John is NOT going to be writing a special song when this endlessly fascinating horse goes to the big glue factory in the sky.

Special song? He just repurposed Candle in the Wind and got an assload. of money on the back of it.

I was responding to R410 and R417. I had no idea Kate went to Singapore. I hadn't read that post. I certainly don't hate Kate. But I find people like King Charles and Harry and Meghan sources of endless mockery merriment as one used to say. And one today can mock the whole idea of a monarchy much as one can mock organized religion.

Monarchy is nothing like organised religion. It’s just one approach to choosing a ceremonial head of state.

Feel sorry for William and Catherine's sons they are going to be brought up in the same hands off loveless Royal tradition Charles was raised in. We know how well he turned out.

[quote] With two full time nannies and a staff of 60 sure mummy just can't leave her"infants" behind for two days.

[quote] Feel sorry for William and Catherine's sons they are going to be brought up in the same hands off loveless Royal tradition Charles

Fascinating how one histrionic Sussex stan can be so schizophrenic over William and Kates parenting style in the space of just 2 hours. That's menopause in the overweight for you I guess . Sorry they're not willing to demonstrate their parental love by dumping the kids on a random passing maid to fly uninvited to Germany like certain caring mothers.

R425 You're in a cult dear.

Haha, Haz and the missus specialize in seething jealousy. It's why they get up in the morning

We are really fortunate to have so many insiders on this board.

Insiders? HA! Royal speculators and tin hat conspiracy theorists. If Meghan or Kate wears her hair a certain way, they know what they’re thinking or what message they’re sending. It’s all so much bullshit…fringe dwellers the lot of them.

R528. I don’t live in a country in which King Charles is a head of state. I don’t know how you would think that I am.

R419 Catherine cold hearted cunt like Elizabeth.

Monarchy is ordained by God so you are very wrong.

[quote]Feel sorry for William and Catherine's sons they are going to be brought up in the same hands off loveless Royal tradition Charles was raised in.

Pish tosh! Gordonstoun was nothing compared to being overseen by moi!

I feel sorry for Charlotte because she is going to miss her brothers when they go off to school and she has to learn embroidery and becoming familiar with the stables. She's not one for mucking about.

Gordonstoun is 450 miles from London. George will be in Eton, with his parents a ten-minute drive away.

That’s assuming that Prince George is accepted into Eton. He could well be accepted into Marlborough, which his mother attended, and which is co-educational.

I can definitely see sending kids off to boarding school when they become teenagers. Say 13-14. They're all insufferable then. But 10-12 seems a bit too young.

Why, boarding school is a perfectly lovely little thing!

R434. What god-ordained monarchy are referring to? This thread is about the British monarchy. You are very wrong

Nope, R441, It's historically referred to as the Divine Right of kings. All very archaic in this day. The British Monarch has their coronation in church. It is a religious ceremony. They are ordained by God. That is the belief. And the monarch is the head of the Church of England.

Nope. You’re American, right? I assume if you were British you would not have such a deeply outdated and inaccurate understanding of the monarchy. British monarchs have not ruled by divine right since the 17th century. The right to the throne is established by act of parliament. We all know the king is crowned, head of Church of England etc You don’t need to tell us. You need us to inform you.

Many of the things you think are silly about the British monarchy exist only in your uninformed kind.

R442, the idea of the Divine Right of Kings has not existed in any political sense in Great Britain at least since the government asserted its right to pass the Act of Succession. If it wanted to, parliament could sack every member of the House of Windsor tomorrow, and make the winner of Britain’s Got Talent our monarch.

The last British person to believe in the Divine Right was Charles I, and God did not elect to save him.

I see the R434’s totally ubresearched, grotesquely incorrect statement (made after he was already informed he was totally wrong) has gotten five wws. Proof yet again that many of the people on the royal threads are Americans who profess to be bored and annoyed by the monarchy but also consider themselves world-leading experts on the topic.

I saw it on The Crown. Queen Mary the Dowager explained it. It's old and yes not since the 1600s maybe, but nevertheless.

R446. I very sincerely hope that was a parody post.

What part of 'BY THE GRACE OF GOD" do you peasants not get?

I never understood people who complained about posts. I always thought it’s so easy to skip over them. The meme guy has almost made me understand. His posts are so relentlessly stupid and repetitive.

[quote] Nope, [R441], It's historically referred to as the Divine Right of kings. All very archaic in this day.

R442, this is quite funny. - You make a statement (that monarchs rule by Divine Right) which no-one has believed since circa 1650, and then you criticise it as archaic! Comedy gold! Is it intentional?

The king was planning ahead. One nice thing about fucking a horse is you always have a ride home.

R449 Royalass are not noted for their sense of humor .Though you'd never know it by their stupid repetitive reverence for clowns.

These royal jokes write themselves...

^ Authentic as always..

One thing I just learned is that Chuck is a qualified diver, and he's dived under the Arctic Circle. That was very surprising. Both his sons are scuba divers.

Takes a special skill to be off putting, awkward, phony and hilarious at the same time.

R55 King Tampon is a certified muff diver who should be flushed down the loo.

Camilla laughs: “What are you going to turn into, a pair of knickers? Oh, you're going to come back as a pair of knickers.”

Charles replies: “Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck! My luck to be chucked down a lavatory and go on and on forever swirling round on the top, never going down.”

Such immaturity and ignorance in this thread.

I find monarchy to be inherently ridiculous, too, but the people of the UK haven't abolished it because, apparently, for them, the BRF serve a public purpose.

And really? That tampax thing? I never gave that a thought and never listened to it. The only reason I know of it is because it was a headline.

I'm just damn glad my conversations haven't been recorded.

And no, you juvenile sophomores, posting those last posts. I don't argue that they shouldn't be ridiculed. They're public figures. That comes with the territory.

It's just that when I see the BRF in pix and on duty I see it for what it is : plain old hard work. Anybody who doesn't think that it's mental, emotional and physical labor to be ON for whatever it is they have to be on for, is just flat wrong.

And you better look and sound damn good, too, while you're at a public event, because there are cellphones, taping devices , cameras and photoshop recording every facial tic and syllable that comes out of your mouth.

I wouldn't trade my anonymous life among the poor and obscure for theirs, no way, no how. I'd take the money, though.

R458 "BRF in pix and on duty I see it for what it is : plain old hard work. " Comedy Gold.

Willy looks like a mashup of a hardboiled egg and Dracula.

Wanker Willy and his Duchess of Bulimia are pretty much an SNL skit .😂

One thing I discovered. Charles is an informed monarch. And so are those who are serving now. The Wales, and Sophie and Edward have made it their business to get informed about the charities or localities they visit. Not just a one or two page briefing. But a real understanding of the work the charities are doing. I think Camilla does too. That's a good thing. The last generation didn't do that.

You don’t think prince Philip knew anything about his charities?

R462 My sides.

' I care only for my Crown and Camillia." ... Charles III

Was one of his charities research to cure foot-in-mouth disease?

R463 I think the Royals, including Phillip, Margaret, etc. The Queen knew broad strokes and of course they were there for decades. Can't help but absorb stuff too. But What I mean is that it seems like Charles and William and Katherine, Sophie and Edward really drill down and try to grasp and understand details that the previous generation weren't that interested in.

Edward's lifetime of being drilled will get him drilled down quite soon from the look of him.

Royalists hang it up. Your "prince" is oozing psycho. Can't wait till Willy " snaps" in public.

His so called wife looks like she's losing it too.

5 lbs of hair extensions weigh heavy on a gal.

There are intelligent republicans. It’s remarkable that I think I have only seen one post on Datalounge.

There are no intelligent Royalists. It's unremarkable that I've never seen an intelligent post from one on Datalounge.

Princess Catherine looked lovely today visiting the wheelchair student athletes, how they loved her.

^ Bitch stole my act.

Bitch stole my act AGAIN

Being in wheel chairs is FUN!!!

Except when you can never get out of them for life.

I dont know if that photo opt was such a good idea.

Heavy is the head that wears the crown of extensions.