What’s her story?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||September 22, 2023 11:56 AM|
Her story is that she died 35 years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||September 17, 2023 12:42 AM|
Not sure, but I bet it's got something to do with Andy Samberg.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||September 17, 2023 12:43 AM|
Brooke Astors' evil twin.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||September 17, 2023 12:44 AM|
A face that would stop a clock.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||September 17, 2023 12:45 AM|
Diana and Brooke had little in common.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||September 17, 2023 12:46 AM|
Pink is the navy blue of India.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||September 17, 2023 12:46 AM|
[quote]What’s her story?
Read this book, OP...
|by Anonymous||reply 7||September 17, 2023 12:55 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 8||September 17, 2023 1:02 AM|
Why don’t you… have an elk-hide trunk for the back of your car? Hermès of Paris will make this.”
Why don’t you… rinse your blond child’s hair in dead champagne to keep it gold, as they do in France?
Why don’t you… put all your dogs in bright yellow collars and leads like all the dogs in Paris?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||September 17, 2023 1:04 AM|
There’s a documentary on her that’s truly great. I think it’s called The Eye has to Travel. It’s fun! And so was she.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||September 17, 2023 1:06 AM|
Wore the same shade of lipstick on both pairs of lips!
|by Anonymous||reply 11||September 17, 2023 1:06 AM|
DL owes Diana much. She helped make caftans chic after discovering them on a trip to Morocco.
She referred to them as "fashionable for the beautiful people."
|by Anonymous||reply 12||September 17, 2023 1:20 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 13||September 17, 2023 1:24 AM|
I worshiped the pretentious fug.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||September 17, 2023 1:25 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 15||September 17, 2023 1:28 AM|
A true legend...
|by Anonymous||reply 16||September 17, 2023 1:29 AM|
Diana & Reed
|by Anonymous||reply 17||September 17, 2023 1:33 AM|
I love the way she speaks. She has that Mid-Atlantic accent that reminds me of Bette Davis and other classic Hollywood actresses from the Golden Age.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||September 17, 2023 1:34 AM|
She looks like a jolly Fran Leibowitz
|by Anonymous||reply 19||September 17, 2023 1:57 AM|
"Profile like a cigar store Indian."
|by Anonymous||reply 20||September 17, 2023 2:00 AM|
Another Diana & Reed Vreeland
|by Anonymous||reply 21||September 17, 2023 2:08 AM|
Kay doing a knock-off of DV...
|by Anonymous||reply 22||September 17, 2023 2:22 AM|
She just had...style.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||September 17, 2023 2:29 AM|
Do people consider Vreeland superior to Wintour or do people see Wintour as having surpassed Vreeland?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||September 17, 2023 2:34 AM|
It's hard for young people today (those under 60!) to understand there were once pronouncements every season about fashion that created strict rules and determined, for instance, what colors were in or out, what the only sane length of a hemline could be, which animal fur was appropriate for winter wear, the particular shape of breasts in the correct bra, the advantages of a V neckline over a scooped neckline, the shape and width of a high heel and toe box, the best hue for a string of pearls, etc. Everybody who was anybody listened.
Diana Vreeland was the Queen of those pronouncements for several decades. Really, until the 1970s, when rules were only made to be broken.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||September 17, 2023 2:36 AM|
Wintour isn't fit to hem DV's skirt, r24.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||September 17, 2023 2:38 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 27||September 17, 2023 2:41 AM|
She was totally fucking bonkers, but in a really interesting kind of way.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||September 17, 2023 4:05 AM|
She started The Met Costume Institute which is now called The Anna Wintour Costume Center for some reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||September 17, 2023 4:18 PM|
I remember Vreeland's first two exhibits for the Met, Balenciaga (whose work and influence were not that well-known by the general public in 1972) and then Hollywood costume design (a new and well-deserved appreciation as an art form). Both spectacular, theatrical and also so much more accessible than most of the exhibits they've done in the last decades.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||September 17, 2023 5:51 PM|
Wintour is a hack compared to Vreeland.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||September 17, 2023 6:16 PM|
Vreeland was a notoriously picky eater. She practically lived on shephard's pie, and would request it when visiting friends for lunch, telling them that their cook made the best she'd had, when in fact it's about all she was willing to eat.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||September 17, 2023 7:05 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 33||September 17, 2023 7:27 PM|
Peach, mind you, peach.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||September 17, 2023 7:45 PM|
She's the template for the the Data Lounge Eldergay.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||September 17, 2023 8:32 PM|
r33, well, that's one way to make your waist look small.
(not Shepherd's pie)
|by Anonymous||reply 36||September 17, 2023 8:50 PM|
She seemed to be a halfway decent person or as much as a fashion doyenne could be compared to Wintour. And yes that doc on her is terrific. Very entertaining and at times funny. Like one of her sons saying she said to him that he was too old for her friends at Studio 54.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||September 17, 2023 8:56 PM|
She had a joie de vivre that Wintour doesn't have. Anna always seems sour.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||September 17, 2023 9:00 PM|
She made US Vogue fabulous then wintour destroyed it.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||September 17, 2023 9:03 PM|
She was the very definition of vapid.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||September 17, 2023 9:06 PM|
Au contraire, she was fascinating!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||September 17, 2023 9:12 PM|
To the more vapid perhaps.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||September 17, 2023 9:15 PM|
Well, smell r42.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||September 17, 2023 9:18 PM|
Ask Mary Louise Wilson
|by Anonymous||reply 44||September 17, 2023 9:21 PM|
r44 see r13
|by Anonymous||reply 45||September 17, 2023 9:26 PM|
Vapid in Manhattan. It's a recipe.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||September 17, 2023 9:36 PM|
It appears that r40-r46 has learned a new word!
|by Anonymous||reply 47||September 17, 2023 10:08 PM|
I wish I had seen Full Gallop.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||September 17, 2023 10:22 PM|
It was great—a handful of us at a matinee—all women over 60 and gay men of all ages. As Vivian Vane was reputed to say when peeking through the curtain before a matinee, “Not a Kotex out there.”
|by Anonymous||reply 49||September 17, 2023 10:35 PM|
[quote]Vapid in Manhattan. It's a recipe.
I thought it was the way of life.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||September 17, 2023 10:58 PM|
She's one of my favorite people and greatest inspirations because she was a self-made creation. Put down by her beautiful mother and compared unfavorably to her beautiful sister, when she was a teenager she dedicated herself to becoming "The Girl" who was not only desirable and fashionable, but knowledgable and interesting. The biography she provided was more or less correct, though extremely embellished. She credited her success in life to being raised in La Belle Epoque Paris-- the truth was that though she was born there, and spent a little time there as a child, she was raised almost entirely in New York. She met her elegant husband in one of her rare ventures below 100th Street as a 20s flapper, and together they charmed their way through the East Coast and European elite, jet-setting back and forth until the Second World War when they settled in New York for good. She was spotted by Carmel Snow while she was dancing with her husband in a nightclub and Carmel, knowing real style when she saw it, offered Diana a job at Harper's Bazaar the following day. The rest is history. Diana believed in bringing fantasy to the public, and showing women their potential. I love her quote: "It's not the clothes, it's the life you live in the clothes." Always thinking ahead, she embraced the counterculture movement in the 60s and coined the term "youthquake." She was responsible for bringing models like Twiggy, Penelope Tree, Anjelica Huston, and Cher into the mainstream-- unconventional beauties in whom she saw herself. She was a perfectionist and had a reputation as a taskmaster, but no one really has a bad word to say about this woman responsible for taking so many under her wing and espousing the importance of originality over "good taste." Yes, the documentary is great, as is her book of memos, the various biographies, and anything else you can get your hands on.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||September 18, 2023 5:39 PM|
She does seem absolutely maaaaarvelous, R51. Thanks for sharing.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||September 18, 2023 5:44 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 53||September 18, 2023 5:55 PM|
She looks a little like David Brenner.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||September 18, 2023 6:04 PM|
Her Manhattan apartment, which she had decorated to look like "A garden in hell."
|by Anonymous||reply 55||September 18, 2023 6:09 PM|
This documentary was produced by the Met to coincide with their exhibition of clothes from La Belle Epoque, curated by DV. She's one of the featured talking heads. The doc is fascinating, entertaining, and beautiful. Why don't they produce films like this anymore?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||September 18, 2023 6:12 PM|
Diana's two sons are still alive, both in their 90s now. One of them was an ambassador of some sort, and lives in Italy. He's surprisingly active on Instagram, and posts about his mother often. He paints a picture of someone affectionate but distant, it was understood that her career would keep her away and he seemed to accept that in a very healthy way. His son (or nephew) became a Buddhist Monk, shaved head and all, and was very close to his grandmother.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||September 18, 2023 6:52 PM|
Fascinating, R57. Thank you!
Her sons are 98 and 96, and the 98-year-old got married earlier this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||September 18, 2023 7:00 PM|
I don't think jet-setting was a thing in the 20s and 30s.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||September 18, 2023 11:30 PM|
R59 R51 here, I thought the same thing as I was writing it, but it got the point across. This morning, the book I'm reading described the socialites of the 30s as "pre-jetsetters, before the jets," so I don't feel so bad about the incongruous phrase.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||September 19, 2023 2:04 PM|
She looks like a character Scott Thompson would play on The Kids in the Hall.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||September 19, 2023 2:16 PM|
PLEASE, don’t stand THERE!
|by Anonymous||reply 62||September 19, 2023 2:59 PM|
I wish I had gone to her Hollywood exhibit. It was supposed to have been great. Now all those costumes are owned by individuals or have been lost. I have no idea why Spielberg or Lucas did not help Reynolds out with her costume exhibit. A very important part of their industry which would have been very popular. Well with the way things turned out it made Todd and her granddaughter very rich. I read that many of the costumes of My Fair Lady ended up in Titanic.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||September 21, 2023 10:58 PM|
I don’t know why anyone in Hollywood whose passion is movies didn’t help Debbie. They go to great lengths to preserve or colorize films and have a whole channel devoted to the history of movies. Costumes are discussed-especially iconic outfits, and awards are given to the best of the best, but no one came to her aid.
Did Scorsese help? Or costumers? Historians? I don’t get it. But then again humans are strange on who they will help. People who are desperate usually don’t luck out.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||September 21, 2023 11:26 PM|
Debbie Reynolds was insufferable and not well liked.
Even Merv Griffin didn't help her.
What a shame. No snark.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||September 22, 2023 11:56 AM|