I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden's age

He doesn’t project an image of strength. He (accurately) reflects America’s cognitive and physical decline.

Never mind that he has been the most effective president we’ve had since Lyndon Johnson. It’s all about appearances.

Please shit in my mouth. PLEASE.

How ironic.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Is that young whippersnapper Sen. John McCain too old to be president?

Listen to some Democrats, and you'll think the 71-year-old Arizona senator is a man lost in a perpetual fog. He is "confused" and has "lost his bearings" or is "out of touch."

Listen to the McCain campaign, and you'll be convinced that Democrats are using those terms to exploit concerns that the presumptive Republican nominee is too old to effectively serve as president.

For his part, McCain tends to answer questions about his age with quips such as, "I'm older than dirt and have more scars than Frankenstein, but I've learned a few things along the way."

The first salvo of the general election's age war may have been launched in May, when Sen. Barack Obama argued in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer that McCain had "lost his bearings" while pursuing the Republican nomination.

The McCain camp claimed that Obama's use of that phrase was "a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue."

Last Wednesday, the issue reemerged when McCain appeared on NBC's "Today" Show and argued, as he has before, that "it's not important" when troops return from Iraq as long as casualties are held to a minimum. Don't Miss

en. John Kerry, an Obama supporter, said in a hastily arranged conference call that McCain is "unbelievably out of touch" and that it "is really becoming more crystal clear... that John McCain simply doesn't understand [the conflict]. He confuses who Iran is training, he confuses what the makeup of al Qaeda is, [and] he confuses the history ... of what has happened between Sunni and Shia."

Susan Rice, one of Obama's top foreign policy advisers, said that McCain had demonstrated a "pattern of confusing the basic facts and reality that pertain to Iraq."

When asked if he was trying to highlight the age issue through his choice of words, Kerry said it was "unfair" and "ridiculous" to make such an assertion. Rice said she was simply highlighting the fact that, in her opinion, McCain has his facts wrong.

For its part, the McCain camp says Obama is the one who is confused.

"Clearly their use of the word 'confusion' had more to do with Barack Obama's complete inability to make sense of his failure to go to Iraq in over 870 days and have a one-on-one meeting with Gen. Petraeus while portraying himself as being informed on the topic," said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds.

𝑊ℎ𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑟 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐷𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑐𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑑 𝑔𝑎𝑚𝑒𝑠, 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑏𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑣𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑠, 𝑀𝑐𝐶𝑎𝑖𝑛'𝑠 𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑟𝑛.

Roughly one-third of respondents in most recent national polls say that McCain's age could impede his ability to effectively govern the nation.

These percentages are in line with historical trends. Approximately one-third of voters expressed similar concerns about Bob Dole's age in 1996 and Ronald Reagan's age in 1984. (Dole was 73 years old in 1996. Reagan was 73 in 1984.)

it's not about age; it's about cognitive decline. I know people in their 80s and 90s who are sharp and able to complete thoughts and sentences.

R6 that cunt is a piece of shit pundit, not a journalist.

[quote] it's about cognitive decline

CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale this week said that President Joe Biden has an “unfortunate pattern” of making false claims, including about visiting Ground Zero the day after the terror attacks on 9/11.

Anchor Brianna Keilar introduced the segment about Biden’s false claims on CNN News Central by showing a clip of the president earlier this week, the 22nd anniversary of the horrific and terrifying events of September 11, 2001.

Administration spokesman John Kirby awkwardly dodged a question about Biden’s false claim this week, and other stories like it have come up before, as CNN noted in the segment.

Keilar played a clip of Biden saying he visited the site the next day, Sept. 12, “But that’s not actually true” as she introduced Dale to fact-check the story.

“When did Biden actually visit Ground Zero?” Keilar asked.

“He went nine days after the attack, Brianna, September 20th, 2001, when he went with a bipartisan delegation of senators,” Dale replied. “I asked the White House last night about this claim. They provided a photo of him there on September 20th, reiterated that he was there that day.”

“And maybe he forgot,” he said. “But look, it’s 9/11. It’s sensitive. He’s speaking to military and first responders. So, I think the facts matter.”

Not trivial, not a minor clerical oversight, but misrepresentation on an incredibly important and solemn event.

The two provided other examples, and Dale said “this president has a pattern at this point of either inventing or embellishing stories about his own past, his biography.”

“Whatever his intentions, whether it’s, you know, foggy memory about stuff that’s going on decades ago or deliberate embellishment, this is an unfortunate pattern that keeps coming up again and again with Joe Biden,” he concluded.

One might note that, like the 9/11 lie, Biden’s false claims are almost always designed to put him at the center of important events, to make him a part of whatever is of significance to his target audience. A pattern of borrowing credibility on any given subject.

DALE: He had – this president has a pattern at this point of either inventing or embellishing stories about his own past, his biography.

He did it three times in one speech last month alone. He claimed he had witnessed a bridge collapse in Pittsburgh, when he actually showed up about 6 hours later. He claimed that his grandfather had died just days before he was born himself at the same hospital. In fact, his grandpa died more than a year before in a different state, not not the same hospital. And, and he also repeated a favorite false story that I and others have debunked over and over again about a supposed a conversation with an Amtrak train conductor he was friends with who was actually deceased at the time the conversation would have had to take place.

And that’s not all. There are some more serious ones, in my view. Previously in his presidency, he claimed at one point he’d been arrested during a civil rights protest, when in other versions of the story, he just said an officer had taken him home from a protest. He said he had visited the Pittsburgh synagogue where worshipers were killed in a 2018 mass shooting. In fact, he’d actually spoken to the rabbi, but never, but never went. And he’s made a whole bunch of others, too. He said at one point that he used to drive a tractor trailer, used to drive an 18-wheeler. Never happened.

The White House later clarified he used to drive a school bus at one point, for, as a as a job, briefly. School bus, of course, not an 18-wheeler.

So, whatever his intentions, whether it’s, you know, foggy memory about stuff that’s going on decades ago or deliberate embellishment, this is an unfortunate pattern that keeps coming up again and again with Joe

My pussy stinks!

When Hunter’s laptop scandal first happened Joe dismissed it as Russian disinfo. He’s a typical politician. Just lie about anything and everything knowing the public are brain dead and the media will lose interest and move on the next day. He’s been correct as voters in Delaware kept lyin’ Biden in office for decades and now he’s been promoted to president!

4 decades in politics

Plagarist

He was quite hot when he was young.

Did Hunter get his sizemeat from dad?

When he was younger R13 yes but not in 1988.

That plagiarism charge was huge back then. Ah, simpler times. It would barely be a blip now post Trump. Trump cheapened and permanently damaged the office. And being that he fucked it up, I'll gladly take an old, sometimes doddering president with an excellent staff over any of the wanna be fascist younger Republicans.

r6...

Trump rode a golf cart at the G7

Old dumpy

I don't really care if Joe is out there running marathons. America has got to get away from politicians serving into their 80s. Other world governments don't do it as much as we do. Overall its not a good a thing and younger people need to be involved in running the country.

In an ideal world neither Trump or Biden would ever be President, but if it takes Biden to keep Trump out of office then whatever. How this nation went from Obama to Trump is still beyond me and the fact that Donald Trump was President of the United States is such an absurdity that if Sue Ellen had said it on Dallas in the 80s, JR would be calling Dr Rogers to get her admitted to the sanitarium again.

R3 he’s fine as a president. He has not accomplished more than any president since Lyndon Johnson.

[quote]I don't really care if Joe is out there running marathons. America has got to get away from politicians serving into their 80s.

We know that, r20. Those of us who live in the *here* and *now* realize the priority right now is to win '24. We can have that discussion afterwards.

R2 shows right up and regurgitates the Fox News talking points, impervious to the facts OP is serving up.

[quote] How this nation went from Obama to Trump is still beyond me

Seriously? One directly led to another.

R19 - didn't he also skip attending a WWII memorial in France because he basically didn't want to get his hair wet?

R25 Obama was black and the MAGAs couldn't handle that

Do some of you people ever look at alternative media or independent news media? It’s apparently the only place you can see Biden wandering offstage all the time with that frail-looking hands-out-front gesture, telling rambling, pointless stories to people in Maui, etc. MSNBC or whatever you watch is not going to show you this stuff. One would think you’d want to be informed.

R17 so I should judge Biden by comparing him to a former Reality TV star with no political experience? That still doesn't make Biden seem coherent. Sorry.

with no political experience before 2016 that is.

with age comes experience

I want to see Donald Trump try riding a bicycle like Biden does.

why does riding a bike make someone Presidential material R32?

[Quote] I want to see Donald Trump try riding a bicycle like Biden does.

Anyone riding a bike like Joe Biden does is likely to get injured

R33 Absolutely nothing. It's about the argument on age and health of Biden & Trump and whether their age is a detriment. Physically and mentally Joe Biden is obviously more fit than Trump.

I am Team Biden all the way. We must keep Trump out of the White House. There is no other option.

However, as effective as Biden has been as president, he needs some behind-the-scenes media training. He needs to learn how to appear more dynamic. He needs to speak up, articulate and not mumble or sound like grandpa. He needs to stop saying things like, "My dad used to say...or my dad used to tell me...or stop using phrases like "malarkey." Jesus Christ, he sounds like he's living in the 1800s. And Joe Biden's father is ancient history, and talking like this makes Joe seem older than dirt. Biden needs to stop being photographed at the beach bare-chested. Put on a goddamn T-shirt. Shirtless 80-year old men at the beach look 90! Or just stop going to the beach altogether. You look like you're about to trip in the sand. Joe--clear your throat and speak with command. Don't dawdle when you walk. Walk with a purpose. You sound and look like an old man rocking on your porch.

Lastly, start fighting back. Get out there an criticize Trump. Don't overdo it. You still have more than a year until the election. But ignoring Trump now is not working--and Americans like fighters. You have to fight back even if it's early.

I think Biden has been a great president. But it's all about perception. Trump is an old man too. But he's a punk asshole criminal who often comes across with vitality, unfortunately.

The Republicans have gained control over SCOTUS because they are team players. They backed a psychopath retard who can't read and is morbidly obese so can't walk, for president so they could push their batshit agenda. They are --even as we speak-- cozying up to actual Nazis to get their policies passed and threatening to kill people and their families, if they don't get their way.

GET OVER Biden's age. He is getting it done. More than any of your younger, prettier favs could. Grow the fuck up. Put America first, for fuckssake.

His success now means you'll actually have the opportunity to vote for those younger Democrats, in a few years instead of living in a fascist hell hole under King Trump.

You don't change generals mid-war, and this is war. Do you naysayers have any idea of the horrors degenerate madman donald has planned for us? For the world, with the help of his friend Putin?

Wake up, people! "Never Again"

Biden/Harris 2024.

Biden is surrounded by experienced experts, unlike Trump with his crooked cronies. I definitely prefer a Biden administration to a Trump one.

R39 The fact that many people do not see the obvious distinction between the two is what upsets me the most.

R35 Did you teach medicine at UPenn by any chance?

The election is still over a year away. So much can happen between now & then. We don’t need an opinion poll conducted every day.

then disengage from all media OP

I will gladly vote for Biden but are you serious OP he sounds completely senile EVERY time he speaks nearly , he just does, and maybe some older people aren't picking up on that because it's more normal in their social circles but it is alarming to everyone else

[quote][R17] so I should judge Biden by comparing him to a former Reality TV star with no political experience?

r29 That's what I don't get. Being "better than Trump" isn't exactly a high bar, people.

This is what happens when you've dated scrubs most of your life and then finally get with someone who takes you out to eat...at Wendy's. Americans have low self-esteem.

[quote]maybe some older people aren't picking up on that because it's more normal in their social circles but it is alarming to everyone else

You didn't have to go in on them like that. 😂

Biden is it, and he's getting it done. Yes, he's old. I wish he weren't, but It's too late to select another Democratic candidate. Biden beat Trump before he can do it again. Trump's defeat is the one and only goal. Nothing else matters. Nothing. I am so pissed today with this Hunter Biden indictment. Hunter Biden is a piece of slime who has been undermining his father for years. The focus needs to remain on Biden and his reelection. Hunter is such a fuck-up. And I'm not giving him any sympathy for being an addict. He's fucking up the war against the Repigs.

We will lose our democracy if Trump were to win. This cannot happen.

Sadly, the average American is so out of touch with politics that the only people with national name recognition are Biden and Trump. Much of this is the fault of the media, but the other part is the keep up with the Jones mentality prevalent in our country, where people struggle and strive to appear to be doing as well or better than their neighbors while the corporate folks who control our lives lick the cream off of their whiskers. I pay pretty close attention to politics, but there was an ad on TV the other day (Doug Burgum) and for the first 30 seconds, I was like, "who the fuck is that? "? Vivek came out of nowhere, and I hope he quickly returns there. Californians would recognize Gavin Newsome, but someone in Missouri? probably not. If there were a bank of young or middle-aged Democrats with nationwide name -recognition, I'd be all for a contested run for President. Conor Lamb running against Trump? Nope. Seth Moulton running against Trump? Nope. I like Jennifer Granholm AND Gretchen Whitmer. Against Trump? Nope. Not for lack of ability or smarts. A simple problem of lack of national name recognition. Ocasio-Cortez in a one-on-one against Marjorie Taylor Greene. Hell, I'd pay money to see that match-up, but it's never gonna happen - plus it would pit the outer edges of the parties against one another, not doing the folks in the center of either party any good. (Not that there are any centrist Republicans left).

[Quote] [R6] that cunt is a piece of shit pundit, not a journalist.

What difference does it make R7?

PUNDIT-an expert in a particular subject or field who is frequently called on to give opinions about it to the public:

Way to go Mitt!

[quote] If there were a bank of young or middle-aged Democrats with nationwide name -recognition, I'd be all for a contested run for President.

I agree. I think it's probably too late now to run anyone but Biden against someone like Trump. When I hear pundits mention possibilities like a Whitmer/Warnock ticket, I can see how that could be a strong ticket, but most Americans would wonder who the hell those "nobodies" are. I do wish the Democrats had spent a little more time over the past 4 years trying to groom someone else in case Biden and Harris were sidelined, and I hope they don't wait until 2027 to start grooming possible contenders for 2028. The Democrats have a deep bench, but most Americans aren't familiar with any of them.

Rita's reality ✔️

[quote]Biden is surrounded by experienced experts

That's because he's chosen to be around those particular experienced experts, which is something that's not necessarily guaranteed with a different Democrat running in his place.

. . . .

[quote]He doesn’t project an image of strength. He (accurately) reflects America’s cognitive and physical decline.

No, asshole. Donald Trump reflects America's cognitive, physical and moral decline.

St. Petersburg keyboard warriors, hello!

[quote] You don't change generals mid-war,

Bullshit.

Bullshit yourself, Abe Lincoln @ R57.

How did the presidency of Andrew Johnson turn out for the country?

OP - Of course you are, dear. By comparison he's a child to you. Curious, how many of the 34 topic WWs were yours? That's an awful lot in 16 overnight hours...

R58. Oh dear.

If only Kamala Harris would step down and let Gavin Newsom step in.

To the sad, morbidly obese cunt at R59 - I don't WW my own posts, because I have no fucks to give about how many WWs I get. I don't live for others to validate my opinion, as you seem to do.

I'm probably younger than you, too.

Any other massively stupid shit you'd like to accuse me of or spew out from your corroded cooch hole?

R61, Will Gavin convince Willie Brown to go public with a humiliating sex tape from when Willie and Kamala were together?

No, R63.

You'll just have to keep fapping to that imagery in your fantasies.

R1

[QUOTE] To the sad, morbidly obese cunt at [R59] - I don't WW my own posts, because I have no fucks to give about how many WWs I get. I don't live for others to validate my opinion, as you seem to do. I'm probably younger than you, too. Any other massively stupid shit you'd like to accuse me of or spew out from your corroded cooch hole?

Clearly you don't care. That's perfectly evident by your eloquent and mature response. LOL

P.S., R65 - You sound EXACTLY like the kind of weirdo who WW's his own post 34 times in a row. Look at that, it's only gone up 7 more after 10 hours of daytime viewing by the majority of posters. (wink wink)

R54 Joe dropped out of the 1988 Presidential race after accusations of plagarism and lying about his academic record

[quote]I do wish the Democrats had spent a little more time over the past 4 years trying to groom someone else in case Biden and Harris were sidelined

R51. Good idea in theory, but it wouldn't work in reality. Either you are with an incumbent president (who almost always runs for reelection), or you're against him. Unfortunately, you cannot be grooming someone to take an incumbent's place; otherwise, it looks like you're backing another candidate other than the current president. If another candidate wants to be "groomed," then he or she has to take steps to appear on the national stage on his/her own--almost like something Gavin Newsom is doing without actually declaring his candidacy for 2024. Plus Newsom is somewhat subtle in being "out there" now. He's getting his name familiar with the public now for a possible 2028 run.

Yes, Biden is old. Get used to it. Biden is effective, but he must get out there and fight back sooner rather than later. Trump is old too. If you've noticed with most politicians, they don't give up power easily. Even Mitt Romney at 77 should have retired a few years ago, and he's one of the vital ones. There are not many other companies in the world who would still have employees roaming the halls after 75. I cannot stand Nikki Haley, but she was right when she called the Senate the 'most privileged nursing home in the country.' I love Nancy Pelosi; I'm glad she's there. But it is a dilemma. Mitch McConnell is freezing in his speech and won't leave. Chuck Grassley is 89 and says he's running for reelection.

The unique situation now is that I believe Biden is the only one who can defeat Trump. And the number one focus and priority must be to defeat Trump. We simply cannot have Trump again if we want to preserve our democracy. So we must suck it up and vote for Biden. Trump must be kicked in the nuts to ensure he exits the stage.

r68 Yikes. The people who were adults in 1988 and still voted for him in 2020 must also be going senile. Millennials and Gen Z have an excuse. We were only babies or not even born yet. His peak was as VP during the Obama era.

R70 many voters forgot or didn't know in 2020 when Joe was the only alternative to Trump. I was 22 in 1987 and never heard of Biden until he ran as VP under Obama.

OP it's not going to go away

Oh, no! The Saudis think Biden is old! We definitely need to factor in their opinion!

Thanks for the YouTube link, Jared. And just after the 9/11 anniversary, too. Really great thinking, sis.

I'm so fucking tired of hearing about this thread "I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden's age."

Oops...I mean, I'm so fucking tired of seeing this thread "I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden's age" on the recent threads sidebar.

Seriously, how much more about this topic is there for it to keep being such a commented on thread.

I feel the same way about the Andy Cohen threads, R74. So I block them all.

R73 doesn't that parody indicate that Biden's gaffes are known worldwide? Your absurd if you're think posting that is showing support for the Saudis. And since you brought up 9/11 Biden chose to travel to Alaska instead of NYC on 9/11. Was he trying to avoid Eric Adams and Gov. Hochul? btw having such open borders is allowing terrorists to enter this country unchecked.

you're absurd

R68 - Even worse are the eldergays whose senility had eclipsed his racist history in the early 70s. Kamala was on to something during the debates, but let it go when he dangled the VP seat in front of her. But it's all good, he said he was sorry for it all.

Joe Biden always was a bit gaffe prone, even 30 plus years ago. If Biden's age is a disqualification then so is Trump.

it's not about age R79 but mental decline. Biden made noted gaffes before he was President but now, he's clearly confused and lost.

In the video below compiled of clips from just a few years ago he made gaffes, but he was still so much more alert and able to speak without halting and trailing off which is not the case now.

Then vote for Trump

It doesn't matter if Joe Biden is 100 and on life support. Most of us still wouldn't vote for Trump.

R81 sad comment that neither the Dems nor the Reps can come up with more viable candidates.

R82 define 'us' Sybil

R84 DL'ers

did you take a poll R85? And what % of voters are represented on DL? Your hyperbolic statement @R82 does not represent they way many people think or feel. DL is not representative of the feelings of many people I know. My co workers, friends, family, neighbors . . .all have differing outlooks, situations and concerns.

[QUOTE] It doesn't matter if Joe Biden is 100 and on life support. Most of us still wouldn't vote for Trump.

It's a limited mind which cannot accept criticism without whataboutism. No one mentioned Trump, let alone voting for him. Personally, I think he'll be in prison before 2024. I've disliked Biden since the 80s when I was first voting. I ended up with Dukakis simply because Bush elder was even more repulsive, but I really liked Tsongas.

looking at that video @ R80 the general media was much more critical of Joe before he become the Democratic Presidential Candidate and so was Kamala before she become the VP nominee.

[Quote] Thanks for the YouTube link, Jared. And just after the 9/11 anniversary, too. Really great thinking, sis

R73 here's a disturbing report sis from 9/14/23

stop living in a bubble!

[quote]I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden's age

Couldn't agree with you more. But we had better get used to it.

[Quote]Thanks for the YouTube link, Jared. And just after the 9/11 anniversary, too. Really great thinking, sis.

R73 here's a disturbing report sis!

Bet Biden couldn't do any of this. Thankfully.

With just over a year to the next presidential election, Biden is currently the only likely prominent Democrat who can beat Trump, so arguing about his age is not helping the situation. Trump winning in 2024 will definitely mean the end of Democracy in the US. Absolutely no hyperbole. After Biden wins in 2024, you can start grass root efforts to find a much younger viable Democratic candidate for 2028.

Sorry OP but this is just getting started. Biden's dismal performance in Vietnam last week, and then the comments he made about Black and Hispanics that the white house tried to excise. Better get used to people talking about his age and cognition if he keeps this up.

Not a fan of Joe (at all), but one thing I will say for him. Back in the '80s when he was running the first time he did an interview with 60 Minutes, I think. And during the interview the person asked if he would become president one day and Joe replied "I KNOW I will". And something in that made me believe him and always stuck with me. And he did it.

White House once again has to rewrite the official record of Joe's racist gaffe

R32 Yeah, too bad FDR couldn't ride a bike like Biden can.

R93 God knows I don't want Trump as President but who fed you this? We don't have Democracy any more, anyway, the Democrats and Republicans both serve the corporations, not the concerns of the voters. It's an oligarchy. And why would Trump be able to make himself a dictator? He didn't do it the first time. If the conservatives intended to overthrow the government on 1/6 they would have brought rocket launchers and bombs.

[quote] Trump winning in 2024 will definitely mean the end of Democracy in the US.

I keep hearing this talking point. Please, explain because such statements sound like propaganda spewed from demented partisans. There's plenty to dislike about Trump, but ending Democracy somehow doesn't seem in the cards.

[quote] I keep hearing this talking point. Please, explain because such statements sound like propaganda spewed from demented partisans.

Because, SHUT UP. That's why.

{QUOTE] Because, SHUT UP. That's why.

Mary!

R3 How?

He's muddling through. I'm beginning to think he's not going to last much longer. In the clip it's notable that Al Sharpton is nodding his head in agreement even though Biden isn't making much sense.

Megyn Kelly, r103? Lol, bless your heart.

Good for Megyn Kelly letting Joe's own words randomly babble for themselves

I don't care how old a person is as long as they still have possess their cognitive ability. FDR proved that physical limitations doesn't matter as long as a person's brain is functioning at optimal capacity. Biden and Feinstein are being propped up by staffers who don't want to lose their paycheck prior to full retirement. It's pitiful.

[QUOTE] I was 22 in 1987 and never heard of Biden until he ran as VP under Obama.

WHAT?!

I still can't believe that Biden's plagiarism wasn't a big deal during the election. I don't think Trump even brought it up but he was probably ignorant of it. I wonder how many of us voted for Joe out of fear for another Trump term. I knew Joe had lied often in the past -- as previous posters have acknowledged -- but because of his sad life story he always got a pass from the press. He's just wrong as President but whatcha gonna do when he's the best Dems have to offer?

Oh c'mon, r108, this is DL. Put some effort into it. A little stealth. You're trolling is amateur hour.

Hey r108...

R104 actually it's not about Megyn Kelly but the video of Biden which speaks for itself. Nice try at diversion though. Bless your heart.

^ r111 Sure, Jan. See r110.

[QUOTE]Because, SHUT UP. That's why.

New DL meme?

Bless your heart R112 It's still not about Megyn Kelly.

Sponsored by Megyn Kelly no doubt

Like the previous First Lady, I'm sure Jill and Joe sleep in separate chambers. The old man smell must be killer.

Sponsored by ̶M̶e̶g̶y̶n̶ ̶K̶e̶l̶l̶y̶ 𝐺𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑛 𝑁𝑒𝑤𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 no doubt

Good one R117

I know it doesn't do any good to dwell on the past, but I wish Biden had run in 2016. I know some of you bitches will disagree, but I think Biden would have run a stronger campaign against Trump in 2016 than Hillary did, and I think Biden would have eked out a narrow electoral college victory. If Biden had beaten Trump in 2016, the Republicans would have concluded that nominating Trump was a mistake, and they would have kicked Trump to the curb. Trump would not have gone quietly into the night, but without the power of the presidency, he never would have been able to develop the massive cult following that he has now. If Biden had won in 2016, he would have been president when COVID happened, and he would have dealt with the crisis much better than Trump did. It would have played into Biden's strengths as a compassionate leader, leading him to easy re-election in 2020. With Biden in his second term, we could have spent these past 4 years grooming possible successors.

[quote] I wish Biden had run in 2016

Biden was wise to sit out 2016. He wanted to live.

𝐉𝐨𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐬 𝐔𝐩 𝐚 𝐍𝐞𝐰 𝐒𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐲

WASHINGTON — President Biden told a group of rabbis on Thursday that he was “raised in the synagogues” of Delaware — after previously claiming to have been raised by the state’s then-tiny Puerto Rican community.

“I, you might say, was raised in the synagogues of my state. You think I’m kidding, I’m not,” Biden said during a call ahead of Rosh HaShanah, the Jewish new year holiday that begins Friday.

Biden’s 2007 memoir “Promises to Keep” doesn’t contain a single use of the word “synagogue” and its seven uses of the words “Jews” and “Jewish” all are when discussing history or politics. Beth Shalom is not mentioned. His 2017 book “Promise Me, Dad” has similarly sparse mentions of Judaism.

Joe should have been a creative writer.

R119 if you're going to live in the past how about a scenario that had Hilary as Prez in 2008 with Obama as VP and Obama running for Prez in 2016.

R122 - Every word he writes is a lie, includes the words "and" and "the".

They can't come after him on his record so they come after him on his shitty bad apple son and his age. They did the same to Clinton. She is crooked. She is crooked. She is crooked. If you repeat a lie enough it becomes true. He's too old, he's too old, he's too old. Nevermind he has been doing a fantastic job as president.

Sorry OP:

[quote]As President Biden shifts his re-election campaign into higher gear, the strength of his candidacy is being tested by a striking divide between Democratic leaders, who are overwhelmingly unified behind his bid, and rank-and-file voters in the party who harbor persistent doubts about whether he is their best option.

[quote]“The voters don’t want this, and that’s in poll after poll after poll,” said James Carville, a longtime party strategist, who worries that a lack of enthusiasm for Mr. Biden could lead to lower Democratic turnout in 2024. “You can’t look at what you look at and not feel some apprehension here.”

Today's NYT.

[Quote] I was 22 in 1987 and never heard of Biden until he ran as VP under Obama.

[Quote] WHAT?!

R107 I lived in NY from 1988-2006 having the time of my life going to Broadway shows, clubs, restaurants . . .when NY was in full swing and was a gay mecca. I was in my 20s and 30s then and working full time. It was also the AIDS era as well. Do you think Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. who represented Delaware in the United States Senate from 1973 -2009 was anyone's radar? He was not by any means a national figure and rarely mentioned in the news.

was on anyone's radar

R119 Woulda shoulda coulda

R127 Huh? He ran for the nomination in 1988. He was in the news quite a lot, especially after the allegations of plagiarism on the campaign trail, and lying about his law school record. Maybe I’m misunderstanding your post. He oversaw the Senate hearings for Supreme Court nominees Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas - both contentious hearings that were national news. 1987 and 1991.

[quote] He was not by any means a national figure and rarely mentioned in the news.

But when he was mentioned on the news it mainly was the media pointing and laughing at his presidential candidacy winning zero delegates in the primaries, , pointing and laughing at his hair plugs, or pointing and laughing about his lack of ethics and honesty.

R130 R131 Do you think I spent my 20s and 30s watching TV when I lived in NYC where there was so much to do? Bush, Reagan, the Clintons, Monica Lewinsky, Kotch, AIDS, Hilary, Donald and Ivanka, Rudy Giuliani, the 1993 attack on the WTC . . .were always in the headlines not Biden. Biden was never mentioned or discussed by my friends or colleagues at work.

Biden was on Meet the Press and Face The Nation numerous times, he was one of the most well-known US Senators, he introduced the notorious “Crime Bill” and headed the Senate Judiciary Committee (when he wasn’t a ranking member). He also made the news for having two brain aneurisms in the late 80s.

R127 doesn't follow the news. He'd probably have to resort to Google to even name who was President between 1988-2006.

R132 Oh, of course not, sweetie, continue to be proud of having been young and uninformed.

He was a good ol' boy!

Even when people discussed Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill back in the day no one brought up Biden's name.

[Quote] Oh, of course not, sweetie, continue to be proud of having been young and uninformed.

Better that then having no life and concerning myself with a Senator from Delaware.

Maybe I was born too early. R138

He doesn't tell lies. Not mean ones anyway.

He's just our dear old Joe.

Who are all these posters who only heard of Biden until he ran as Obama's running mate?

I was in high school when he ran in '88 and I knew who who he was then.

You aren't fooling anybody, troll @ r121. Lol, your specious links give you away every time.

R127 = bubble-headed Yass Queen

R141 and how did knowing about Joe Biden help you in life? Did your social studies teachers talk about him? Was he discussed around the dinner table? You must have been fun at parties.

^ Yass Queen alert.

R141 Since you knew about Biden for years did you vote for him in 2020?

The problem is that you [R127] claimed,

[quote] Do you think Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. who represented Delaware in the United States Senate from 1973 -2009 was anyone's radar? He was not by any means a national figure and rarely mentioned in the news.

If you weren’t paying attention, so be it. That’s your privilege. But a lot of that is simply wrong, so that’s what people have been commenting on.

Im sick of it too

What was there to pay attention to R147? Those clips resurfaced on the internet when Joe became Obama's pick for VP and again when he ran for President not because he was a well-known political figure back in the day. Biden was a senator for decades who was never discussed much.

What clips? I lived through it, it was more than clips. It was on the nightly news, and The McLaughlin Group, etc. I don’t get your argument. Biden ran for the Dem nomination and that was well known at the time. Just like RFK Jr.or Marianne Williamson are running for the Dem nomination today. Have you heard of them?

I want the right person for the job. He is doing the job exceedingly well. Despite the MAGA Republicans in Congress, whom he outmaneuvers at every turn. I mean the GOP elects Marjorie Taylor Green and Laruen 'handjob" Bobert. Who the fuck are they to judge?

Sounds like you have had one exciting life R150 Are you still in mom's basement?

Meet Joe Biden

R152 It the time you cite I was an actor, so I wasn’t just going to shows, like you, I was in shows, which might constitute an “exciting” life to some people, but it didn’t mean I coldn’t pck up a newspaper of watch the nightly news.

*pick up a newspaper or watch the nightly news

I also spoke with other people who were interested in the news, like my friends or my family.

That’s it, now I’m done.

Until he became Obama's choice for VP Biden was never discussed, interviewed or talked about the way say Monica Lewinsky was a name and story you couldn't overlook in the 90s. And she didn't spend 36 years in the senate.

Obama chose Biden as his running mate because Biden was one of the candidates running against Obama for the nomination that year. Again if you never heard of him before he was chosen by Obama ou were paying no attention to the Democratic primaries and it doesn’t mean no one heard of Joe Biden before that.

*you

[quote]There's plenty to dislike about Trump, but ending Democracy somehow doesn't seem in the cards.

Gee it’s a shame the Dems didn’t nominate someone who was more popular, and instead Obama had to orchestrate Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropping out to secure Biden the nomination over Sanders and kill Sanders’ momentum. Now they’ve got sleepy, senile, unpopular Joe to go up against Trump and it’s their own fault.

OP - It’s not his age but the fact that he’s now

SENILE

[quote]OP - It’s not his age but the fact that he’s now SENILE

Says no one that actually spends time with him. Meanwhile ...

Trump's condition doesn't make Biden's seem OK and vice versa.

Why are all of your posts so puerile, r162?

Puerile, yet accurate.

r166...Sure, Jan.

[quote]Trump's condition doesn't make Biden's seem OK and vice versa.

Nobody in Biden's orbit thinks he has a "condition." Plenty of people in Trump's orbit think he's stupid, venal, narcissistic, mendacious, delusional and possibly suffering from dementia.

Unfortunately, the poor trolls can't erase Biden's historic accomplishments thus far. Poor trolls.

[Quote] Nobody in Biden's orbit thinks he has a "condition."

Nobody in Biden's orbit would acknowledge that.

[quote]Nobody in Biden's orbit would acknowledge that.

Republicans would. Yet they acknowledge that they were outsmarted by Biden in last May's debt ceiling standoff. If he's senile, what does that make them?

Lol, r170, see169.

^r169

I havent seen the orange blob do anything but shit his fat boy slacks on the golf course...I guess deplorables call that fit

Julian Castro to Biden "Are you forgetting what you said two minutes ago?" @1:03

This time, we don’t even have the luxury of relief. In the two other branches of government, Democrats have been shown the perils of holding people in positions of power for too long — Ruth Bader Ginsburg in the judiciary and Dianne Feinstein in the legislature. Democrats and the media seem to have become more vocal in pointing out the hazards of Biden’s advancing age. In an April poll, of the 70 percent of Americans who said Biden shouldn’t run again, 69 percent said it’s because of his old age.

That old age is showing. Never an incantatory speaker or a sparkling wit, Biden seems to have altogether thrown in the oratorical towel. Several weeks ago, he appeared to actually wander off a set on MSNBC after figuratively wandering through 20 minutes of the host Nicolle Wallace’s gentle questions. In another recent interview, with Fareed Zakaria, when asked specific questions about U.S.-China policy, Biden waded into a muddle of vague bromides and personal anecdotes about his travels as vice president with China’s leader, Xi Jinping. When asked point blank whether it’s time for him to step aside, Biden said, almost tangentially, “I just want to finish the job.”

The one who should have waited was Obama.

Thank you, R160. I'm the one who posted the question initially. Is this an actual news piece or an opinion piece? I do see some quoted Right wing spokespersons but what they're quoted as saying doesn't really match up with what the writer is extrapolating.

To me the article sounds like the usual Republican stance of small Federal government, slashing bureaucracy and cutting taxes. The writer paints a far more alarmist picture bordering on hysteria. I'm being serious here -- if there really is a threat to Democracy then obviously I would be concerned and fight against that, but I don't see any validity in those further Left claims, and I don't see them either when my Right wing family drones on about Biden (or Obama) pushing us towards Communism. To me both claims are extreme and unhinged.

[Quote]What clips? I lived through it, it was more than clips. It was on the nightly news, and The McLaughlin Group, etc. I don’t get your argument. Biden ran for the Dem nomination and that was well known at the time. Just like RFK Jr.or Marianne Williamson are running for the Dem nomination today. Have you heard of them?

as well-known as Ellen DeGeneres, Monica Lewinsky, Nancy and Ron Reagan, Bill and Hilary, Rudy Guiliani, Ed Koch, Ivana and Donald Trump, George Bush, Oprah Winfrey . . .? Biden was hardly a regular topic of discussion during his 36 years in the senate.

[quote]Gee it’s a shame the Dems didn’t nominate someone who was more popular, and instead Obama had to orchestrate Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropping out to secure Biden the nomination over Sanders and kill Sanders’ momentum. Now they’ve got sleepy, senile, unpopular Joe to go up against Trump and it’s their own fault.

Welcome to DL, Kari Lake.

R141 was Biden ever on the cover of George, The New Republic, Esquire, People, Vanity Fair, The Week, Mother Jones, Rolling Stone, Z, Time, Life, Look, Newsweek, The Monthly, The Atlantic, the nation, The National Review, The Spectator, Forbes . . or any magazine from 1973 till 2008 when he was announced as Obama's running mate. You seem to think he was a major national figure because you knew about him in high school.

'For those who don't remember or weren't around in 1987 . . .'

He announced his intention to run in June and withdrew in September of that same year

R157 that is not true at all. He's been in congress since 1972, was prominent in the 80s and then in the Clarence Thomas hearings.

R181 sounds like some dizzy Club Kid. Seriously you get your political news from the cover of the Rolling Stone?

As my grandmother would have said Trump is no spring chicken.

R183 people talked about Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill and the issue of sexual and workplace harassment but Biden was not the topic of conversation.

Time Magazine cover

People

and Newsweek Biden was not the focus of the story in 1991. Only later when he ran for President was his role in the hearings discussed.

[quote]Who are all these posters who only heard of Biden until he ran as Obama's running mate?

r141 Umm. Excuse me, but some of us has [bold]far[/bold] more pressing matters to deal with in 1988. Such as, when the hell Nana was finally going to show her damn face.

Still waiting on that one, btw.

*had

[Quote] He also made the news for having two brain aneurisms in the late 80s

R133 Kittens rescued from drainpipes make the news. So what? it surely wasn't a leading story, and no one was talking about it at the water cooler I'm sure and I was a college student at the time and don't recall anyone talking about it mainly because no one did. Nor do I believe his brain surgery was brought up when he was running for VP in 2008.

[R181] sounds like some dizzy Club Kid. Seriously you get your political news from the cover of the Rolling Stone?

Rolling Stine covers personalities, and I was wondering if Biden had ever been on the cover of any magazines since a group of lonely, friendless people who apparently didn't have cable TV seem to recall so much coverage of Biden in the 80s and 90s. For example, Bill Clinton was on the cover of Rolling Stone several times.

Rolling Stone not Stine. PS I had my MTV! in the 80s

POLITICS Al Gore: The Rolling Stone Interview Live from Air Force Two, the vice president discusses his life, our future, and why he wants to be president — and why the Beatles will always be his favorite band BY JANN S. WENNER, WILL DANA NOVEMBER 9, 2000

Personally, I found Rolling Stone more interesting than The McLaughlin Report.

Buck would never have watched MTV.

Then how come everyone else of a certain seems to have known who Biden was back in those days, R186? Except for you.

People actually read newspapers back then and watched the news. Except for people like R193 et all who got their information from looking at magazine covers.

[QUOTE] Kittens rescued from drainpipes make the news. So what? it surely wasn't a leading story, and no one was talking about it at the water cooler I'm sure

The scandal about his college grades sure was big news. I was in high school when this happened and I remember other kids talking about this.

R199 that's incredible! High School students talking about a senator from Delaware dropping out of a Presidential campaign after 4 months because of plagiarism and misrepresentation!

High School kids were so much different in the early 80s We talked about school, teachers, sex, SNL, films, sex . . .we rarely ever talked about senators.

[quote] Biden was hardly a regular topic of discussion during his 36 years in the senate.

Mainly he was just seen as a babbling buffoon, given some tolerance as twice his brain had been opened surgically and scooped out.

Kids in the early 80s were so silly. Music, movies, parties, pot, the prom . . .sounds like R199 went to school in a monastery.

Joe’s endured two brain surgeries for aneurysms, so there’s obviously a weakness in that area.

It’s amazing that the pressures of being POTUS have not caused a third.

He must be on medication to prevent this from happening again.

👍Joe's aneurysm sounds like it was caused by atherosclerosis. He apparently had a lot of blocked arteries.

𝐂𝐁𝐒 𝐏𝐨𝐥𝐥

72 say Biden is not “physically healthy” enough to be president

29% say neither is physically fit

26% think Biden is mentally fit

44% think Trump is

Trump beats Biden by 1%

72 percent of Americans believe President Joe Biden is not “physically healthy” enough to be president for four more years.

The poll showed that Biden is losing to former President Donald Trump by one point, well within the 2.1 percent margin of error, in a head-to-head matchup. However, Biden, despite being two years older than Trump, is also losing to the Republican frontrunner when it comes voters feel about their mental and physical health.

When asked who is “physically healthy enough to be president,” 43 percent of voters in the poll said “only Donald Trump” while 29 percent of recipients said neither. Moreover, only 16 percent agreed that “only Biden” was competent to serve.

Regarding mental and cognitive health, 44 percent of said only Trump is mentally fit to serve the office. Meanwhile, 23 percent said neither man is fit to serve. Twenty-six percent said only Biden is sufficiently fit.

Joe Biden could be like Bernie Lomax in "Weekend at Bernie's" and he'd still be a fucking better President than that human cockroach, dirtball scumbag, piece of shit garbage Donald J. Trump and his band of thieves, crooks and con artist grifters.

R208 what tool hon? and what are you trying to prove? Why so invested?

Me thinks the lady dost protest too much

Low profile yes but not an unknown. And he had raised his profile significantly prior to 2009 with Anita Hill and defending the Clinton bombings of Iraq.

I've never heard of a Biden staffer reporting they have to explain the basic governmental concept to him. I have read multiple stories of how no one could believe how stupid and unprepared Trump was.

R211, Remember after Trump was elected in 2016, Oprah said “Why don’t we give him a chance?”.

I guess I just don't think of him as low profile. It's like saying Chuck Schumer is low profile. Biden likes to be in front of a camera. He's not a wonk who spends his time reading policy.

r209 - The only person you speak for is Meghan McCain.

You are not the least bit believable or persuasive R213 R214 You're wasting your time if you think you are convincing me in the least. Saying the same thing over and over again does not make it true Pete Repete.

Bless your heart, r215. We aren't here to convince you of anything. We're just calling you out on your ridiculous shit, hon.

Sorry OP but this is just the tip of the iceberg

Dazed and confused

Nothing new OP

to be a good liar you must have a good memory.

Lol, r220. It isn't working.

President Biden is trailing former President Trump, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley and Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) in several hypothetical 2024 match-ups in a new survey from Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll shared with The Hill.

The poll found that 44 percent of respondents said they would vote for Trump when asked about a hypothetical match-up between him and Biden in 2024, while 40 percent said they would back the current president. A separate 15 percent said they were unsure or didn’t know.

The polling is largely unchanged from a similar Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll conducted in July, which had Trump at 45 percent and Biden at 40 percent.

Yawn, r222. Keep it up, you still can't negate Joe's historic accomplishments. I question why you want to.

R221 It's not what he's done; it's what he is no longer capable of doing.

R221 R223🥱🙋‍♀️🙋‍♂️

[quote][R221] It's not what he's done; it's what he is no longer capable of doing.

Sure, Jan.

DL is not the world.

One thing has been consistent across most polling of the presidential race so far: Voters – of both parties – are very concerned about President Joe Biden’s age.

R222 If that is the case, then you have nothing to worry about. Your obsession over convincing everyone in this thread that Biden is too old is desperate and sad.

Kamala was my first choice anyhow.

R228 🥱🙋‍♂️🙋‍♀️ What poll are you referring to?

R228-30 can' t see or hear you

That's your 63rd post in the thread...all saying the same thing, r227. That's called obsessive trolling.

It's the Swift Boat playbook all over again.

Accuse your opponent of every sin you've committed. Repeat the charge over and over and over and over and over and eventually the "both sides" media will latch on to your bullshit out of fear of seeming "biased."

Trump clearly suffers from tertiary syphilis. He's grossly overweight. His makeup is a scandal. His wigs are cheap and shitty. He lies constantly, about every thing.

What to do?

Accuse your opponent of *also lying. Accuse your opponent of also being an incoherent tub of shit. That way voters will throw up their hands and say "they're all alike!"

It works.

[quote] I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden's age

Then turn off your hearing aid.

[qupte] you still can't negate Joe's historic accomplishments.

True. Future generations of Mexicans will celebrate Cinco de Biden

Biden- "When FDR was on Televison . . ."

There was no Television when FDR was President Joe

Just like future generations of Oath Keepers can celebrate January 6th by shitting in the US Capitol again and Donald Trump wiping the shit out of his fat, entitled white ass with the US Constitution on a daily basis.

Lots of MAGAts posting in this thread, that's for sure.

R237 brings a touch of class to the thread.

[quote] Lots of MAGAts posting in this thread, that's for sure.

And lots of libtards too.

Was Beau hung like Hunter?

Then just scroll by.

Oh I thought this said Biden was 100 or 1000 years old. I almost believed it.

I'm 1000% sure he wins reelection.

The Dems or progressives should not worry about Biden’s age. He rides a bike, he is in a great spot right now.

Sure The Hill reported on a new Harvard poll that shows Biden trailing Trump, Haley, and Scott in a head to head but there are plenty of other republicans Biden would be ahead of today.

For some proof that Biden was well known to many people back in the 80s...

He was raised in the Puerto Rican community

[Quote]For some proof that Biden was well known to many people back in the 80s.

Yeah we talked about nothing else in the 80s

@247 Joe Biden is Zelig! Black, Jewish, Puerto Rican . . .

Nothing I've seen shows that Hunter is hung. He's average or slightly above. You sound like his dad always exaggerating. Any links or photos for size verification R241 ? otherwise how do you know he's hung?

Compared to your beloved Lord and Savior's DJT teeny tiny peepee, Hunter's huge, R250.

that sets a low bar R251 I'm asking about Hunter, Bless your heart.

Axios' Alex Thompson quotes Biden at a recent fundraiser:

"A lot of people seem focused on my age…I get it believe me, I know it more than anyone….I’m running because democracy is at stake. Because 2024 democracy is on the ballot once again…Donald trump and his MAGA republicans are determined to destroy American democracy.”

R253

The truth and the problem. The Dems don’t think they have anyone else that can win. So now the Dems are hitting the bricks hard talking up Harris as the VP you want , if Joe cant make 4 years,

Truthfully, I can't see Joe making it to the end of his first term. R254.

R250, Have you been tested for cataracts?

[quote]Truthfully, I can't see Joe making it to the end of his first term.

But you can see Blobbo Trump being inaugurated in 2025?

𝑯𝒂𝒓𝒗𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝑯𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒊𝒔𝑿 𝑷𝒐𝒍𝒍 𝒓𝒆𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒘𝒆𝒆𝒌 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒘𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒓𝒆𝒆 𝑮𝑶𝑷 𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒊𝒅𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒃𝒆𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒊𝒏 𝒂 𝒉𝒚𝒑𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍 𝒈𝒆𝒏𝒆𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒆𝒍𝒆𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 – 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒎𝒆𝒓 𝑷𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝑫𝒐𝒏𝒂𝒍𝒅 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑, 𝑺𝒐𝒖𝒕𝒉 𝑪𝒂𝒓𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒂 𝑺𝒆𝒏. 𝑻𝒊𝒎 𝑺𝒄𝒐𝒕𝒕 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒎𝒆𝒓 𝑼𝑵 𝑨𝒎𝒃𝒂𝒔𝒔𝒂𝒅𝒐𝒓 𝑵𝒊𝒌𝒌𝒊 𝑯𝒂𝒍𝒆𝒚.

While most polls, including the most recent, show Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in second place to Trump, he surprisingly does not beat out Biden in a head-to-head matchup.

Meanwhile, 69 percent of registered voters polled September 12-14 say Biden is too old to run for President again at the age of 80 – and 58 percent think he is mentally unfit for office.

Trump, 77, is only three years younger than Biden. But he is still the far-favorite for the 2024 GOP nomination.

Americans are increasingly concerned with age, especially with Biden and Trump both on board to beat the previous record of being the oldest President ever inaugurated – a record that was set by Biden when he was elected in 2020.

A previous poll showed an astounding 77 percent of Americans who think Biden is too old to serve another four years in the White House.

Still, there are no serious contenders for the Democratic nomination against the incumbent President. But Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Marianne Williamson both launched longshot bids to take on Biden.

DeSantis doesn't beat Biden in a match-up despite other candidates who are polling lower than him besting the President in hypothetical general elections.

When Trump is put up against Biden, the ex-President wins by 4 percent. But DeSantis, the poll shows, would lose by 4 percent.

Meanwhile, both candidates from South Carolina Nikki Haley and Tim Scott are shown beating Biden if they were in a general election with him.

Haley, 51, was Trump's Ambassador to the United Nations – but is now one of his bigger critics on the campaign trail. If put up against Biden, Haley earns 41 percent to the President's 37 percent. This is the same 4 percent gap that Trump beats Biden.

Sen. Scott would beat Biden with just a 2 percent gap, according to the poll that shows the GOP hopeful ahead 39 to 37 percent.

Meanwhile, even though Ramaswamy is polling third among preferred Republican nominees, he would lose to Biden by 2 percent with 37 percent saying they would vote for the biotech boss in a general match-up compared to the 39 percent that would cast their ballot for Biden.

Former Vice President Mike Pence, however, has the largest gap with the President. The HarrisX poll shows him losing by six-points with 36 percent support to Biden's 42 percent.

Pence is polling fifth in the GOP race with 4 percent – a 3 percent drop since the last poll.

[Quote]Have you been tested for cataracts?

It's not about cataracts it's about seeing proof of Hunter being hung. The video of Hunter running around a pool showed nothing of exceptional size. Perhaps he's a grower not a shower. Got any photos R256 to prove it? If so, provide the link, if not shut up.

You must be the only person in America who hasn’t seen at least one of the numerous photos of Hunter Biden’s monster cock on the Internet, R259.

Of course, this thread devolved into a debate about the size of Hunter Biden's penis. Of course, it did.

Never change, DL.

R260 still no links huh?

[quote]Truthfully, I can't see Joe making it to the end of his first term.

I dont have a problem with it, maybe he steps down, maybe he just drops dead that's what a VP is for. Yes, Kamala, say it Kamala Harris! She has the youth you cunts have been bitching about. She's more than capable for the job in spite of the constant Hillarazation Faux News has been doing on her non-stop. Then she can appoint Pete as her VP.

[quote] Then she can appoint Pete as her VP.

Yes a smoke filled room appointment is the only way he would ever move that high. An election certainly won't do it.

R260 Joe didn't discuss dick size rather the size of your crack.

"If you have a piece of crack cocaine no bigger than this quarter that I'm holding in my hand one quarter of $1 we passed the law from the leadership with Senator Thurman and myself and others a law that says you're caught with that you go to jail for 5 years you get no probation you get nothing other than five years in jail. The judge doesn't have a choice."-Senator Joe Biden

5 years minimum but I guess that was for the poor kids in the projects not the entitled failed son of a US Senator, Vice President and now president

Joe's Crime Bill

I guess the Ukrainian energy company Burisma saw something in Hunter that the rest of us overlooked. And I'm not talking about his fabled dick.

R267, You mean Exhibit A?

Thank you R268 just what I thought: average

Hunter's dick is Shakespearean

So is he…

If the cock at R268 is “average”, then we’re all in trouble.

R269’s penis.

R272 Turn in you Gay Card if you think that penis @ R268 is anything but average,

Looks like another $25B of Americans tax dollars is going to Ukraine as Zelensky talks about climate change at the UN

".Russia's invasion of Ukraine has distracted world governments from efforts to combat climate change, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said in a video message played at the COP27 climate conference in Egypt."

Key points: Mr Zelenskyy criticised the impact of war and aggression on global joint actions on climate change Ukraine is hosting an exhibition space for the first time at a UN climate conference Andrew Forrest called for a pause to seabed mining at COP27 "There can be no effective climate policy without the peace," Mr Zelenskyy said.

The Clinton Global Initiative is raising $$$ for Ukraine. Matt Damon has already donated.

CGI announced programs Monday that it hopes will gather new monetary commitments and engagement, including gender equality and continued support for the people of Ukraine.

Hillary Clinton announced that gender equality will now be the fourth pillar of CGI's activities, along with fighting climate change, economic inclusion and public health issues.

Tax 💲🙋‍♀️💲🙋‍♂️💲🙋‍♀️💲🙋‍♂️💲

[quote] as Zelensky talks about climate change at the UN

Of course. Naturally Ukraine would collect a big chunk of this.

BRUSSELS, Sept 6 (Reuters) - Developing countries have proposed that a new U.N. fund unlocks at least $100 billion by 2030 to address irreversible damage caused by climate change, as states prepare to 𝙙𝙞𝙨𝙘𝙪𝙨𝙨 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙗𝙚𝙣𝙚𝙛𝙞𝙩 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙥𝙖𝙮 in at the U.N. COP28 climate summit.

I bet I can guess who will pay.

[Quote] I bet I can guess who will pay.

Maybe we should start charging the migrants a toll to enter the US.

Penny Pritzker was an early supporter of Barack Obama. She soon moved from business to politics and helped fundraise for Obama's senate and, later, presidential bid.

Pritzker spearheaded the 2008 presidential fundraising campaign, which raised nearly $750 million. Five years later, President Obama appointed Pritzker as the commerce secretary, a role she held until the end of Obama's term in 2017.

As Special Representative, her fundraising skills will be essential, as a major task will be to shape the priorities of international donors and align them with Ukraine's funding needs.

Beyond shaping donor priorities and strengthening Ukraine's public sector, Pritzker will need to mobilize the U.S. private sector to invest in Ukraine.

"The private sector is essential to Ukraine's long-term recovery," said Conley, adding that the U.S. particularly focused on Ukraine's energy, agricultural, infrastructure, and IT industries.

[quote]Looks like another $25B of Americans tax dollars is going to Ukraine

So we can fight them over there instead of over here - George W. Bush

Oh how the Repugs forget their own talking points when it's convenient.

Speaking of cock size, I bet Volodymyr Zelenskyy his a nice thick one.

R281 diversion 101 Bless your heart

Hopefully R282 it has a nice thick head on it unlike Hunter's narrow head.

The total cost to the United States of the [bold]Iraq war at $3 trillion[/bold}. This price tag dwarfed previous estimates, including the Bush administration's 2003 projections of a $50 billion.

MAGA clutching their fake pearls because Democrats are spending money on a war that actually could escalate to ww3 if we just let them fend for themselves and until they reach our shores.

Hunter's dick is straight as an arrow. It's a perfect size to hit the right spot. No curved penis issues there.

[quote] Pritzker spearheaded the 2008 presidential fundraising campaign, which raised nearly $750 million.

Throwing the McCain/Feingold fundraising limits out the window. The campaign finance reform that was SO essential until it became inconvenient. McCain of course followed the law and saw his campaign drowned by the democratic spending.

To be honest 'whataboutism' doesn't work. It's mere diversion

OP It's become an unavoidable discussion as the election draws nearer for both Biden and Trump

'Frail' Joe Biden Risks Being Eaten Alive by Trump, Geraldo Rivera Warns

[quote]McCain of course followed the law and saw his campaign drowned by the democratic spending.

Cut the BS. His party is the one who ushered in DARK MONEY so than any country or rich donor can influence American elections while staying totally anonymous.

[quote]'Frail' Joe Biden Risks Being Eaten Alive by Trump, Geraldo Rivera Warns

Geraldo Rivera? Is he still looking for the money in Al Capone's vault? 🤣🤡🤣

Persistent concerns over Biden’s age come amid a series of polls showing he’s neck-and-neck with Trump

Joe looks Frail!

Nom, Nom, Nom KFC,

Nom, Nom, Nom, McDonalds,

Nom, Nom, Nom, Pizza,

Nom, Nom, Nom Meatloaf!

OOOOOH!, That ramp looks steep! Stand by me in case I fall.

Yeah, R293 Joe looks frail. Comparing Joe to Trump doesn't change that.

R290

If given the choice, I will go with the think guy who can still ride a bike and do a pushup over the fatso who lives off burgers and KFC weighing in at 400lbs at age 78.

Walk like a Joe Biden

He sees dead people

VEGAS ODDS - 2024 U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BETTING ODDS

Joe Biden 6/4

Donald Trump 9/4

Ron DeSantis 12/1

Vivek Ramaswamy 14/1

Robert Kennedy Jr. 14/1

Just about a quarter of Americans in CNN’s poll said Biden has the stamina and sharpness to serve effectively, far from a ringing endorsement of a president who brought policy wins back from a trip to Asia last week but left the impression he was confused at a press conference.

Russian Troll Farm PORN

Boris jerking off to this daily.

Joe's an inspiration

Nothing says healthy diet like McDonalds burger and a large dump on a gold plated toilet.

Back to the leader of the free world

R293 R304 R293 . . .🥱🥱🥱

Give it up Boris, your stupid posts about Biden have no power here. By the way, how's the crash of the Russian Ruble treating you? Vodka not so cheap now is it.

Couldn't happen to better people. 🤣😂🤣

President Biden has said he plans to run for a second term, but his age has become an uncomfortable issue for him and his party.

Russian Women are mostly prostitutes, there are more prostitutes in Russia than any other country in the world, including places like Thailand.

You are bringing the Clinton's daughter into this? You Trolls are desperate and tired. Most people don't even remember who she is.

OK Boris, I will play, lets look at your leader's ugly daughters. One is a dog with a giant forehead and the other looks like a cheap Russian prostitute. Oh and of course you were projecting about the Clinton's daughter. The real truth is Putin IS hiding his wealth among his family member including his spawn seen in this video.

Putin's Palace, the largest mega mansion in all of Russia. His official salary as President is only about 150,000 a year. Cant imagine where the rest came from. Couldn't possibly be related to why Russians are so poor.

President Joe Biden’s recent mix-up of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky with Russian President Vladimir Putin has reignited debates about his fitness for office. Here’s the full story.

Whenever I hear someone complain about Biden's age I think, "Oh, so you're another idiot voting for trump."

Just listen to Biden's Labor Day speech, or his United Nations Speech, and you know he's smarter and more effective than the average person no matter what their age.

Lol, "Wealthy Living", r315?

That's your 97th anti-Biden post in this thread, r315. Why so invested?

[Quote]You are bringing the Clinton's daughter into this? You Trolls are desperate and tired. Most people don't even remember who she is.

You might as well ask why the trolls are bringing Putin's wealth and family, Hunter's dick and any number of things into the discussion. Old Joe may not remember who she is but she is still in the news. Did you read the article which is recent @R311?

Chelsea who?

Chelsea Clinton spoke to a crowd on stage during the Clinton Global Initiative 2023 held yesterday in New York. The initiative brought together like-minded figureheads in the heart of the city to implement solutions to some of the world’s most pressing challenges. Attendees included Hillary and Bill Clinton, Orlando Bloom, Dwayne Wade and Alok Vaid-Menon among others.

(^.^) Orlando Bloom Now there's a penis

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐘𝐨𝐮𝐆𝐨𝐯/𝐘𝐚𝐡𝐨𝐨 𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐥

Biden and Trump are now tied at 44 percent among registered voters, with 7 percent undecided and 4 percent saying they will not vote. This suggests that support for Biden has dipped as Trump’s support slowly ticked up — under the shadow of four criminal indictments.

The previous poll conducted by YouGov/Yahoo News last month found that Biden had a slight edge over Trump, with the sitting president polling at 47 percent compared to the former president’s 41 percent. Now, as questions swirl around Biden’s age and the House Republicans are set to launch an impeachment inquiry into him, the president is facing more hurdles going into 2024.

[quote]That's your 97th anti-Biden post in this thread, [R315]. Why so invested?

I think the word you're looking for is "troll."

[Quote]Just listen to Biden's Labor Day speech, or his United Nations Speech, and you know he's smarter and more effective than the average person no matter what their age

Though the average person doesn't have advisors, speech writers and teleprompters

[quote]President Joe Biden’s recent mix-up of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky with Russian President Vladimir Putin has reignited debates about his fitness for office. It's not just age.

And Trump thinks Biden will cause World War II.

Pete Repete^^^

God save the Queen,man!

Biden asks a man in a wheelchair to stand up!

Oy Goyvelt!

Everyone makes mistakes

Biden is clearly in mental decline. Anyone on this thread who is trying to deny it is most likely a paid shill. Biden makes Reagan in his second term look mentally fit. The most powerful country on the face of the earth needs a person in peak mental form in the top spot. Anything less is irresponsible.

Where's the 'Oh, dear' troll when you need her?

People rag on posters who make spelling or punctuation errors on DL. Are we being held to a higher standard than the leader of the free world?

Wouldn't it be exciting though if he just dropped dead?

He will like all of us. Timing is everything though.

It would be most exciting though if he dropped dead during the convention. I don't believe for one second he is going to be on the ticket though. If he is though it would be the perfect timing. During his speech. The Dementia Candidate.

[Quote] Give it up Boris, your stupid posts about Biden have no power here.

[Quote] Just listen to Biden's Labor Day speech, or his United Nations Speech, and you know he's smarter and more effective than the average person no matter what their age.

R316 I think you underestimate the ability of the average person.

President Joe Biden appeared to disgust and bore world leaders at the United Nations General Assembly in New York during his recent appearance. Biden could be seen reading a prepared statement from his usual note cards.

Trump forgets his WIFE Milinia is standing right next to him.🤣😂🤡🤣

Donald's Dementia is a real thing.

Trump does not need note cards? Oh YES HE DOES!

This is Biden's State of the Union, way more lucid, concise and articulate than Trump could ever be without the word salad Trump fall back on ad nauseam. Did he have a speech writer? Sure, but so did Trump and his speeches are still a mess.

No Bless your heart Dear, cherry picking seems to be your forte.

Biden knows exactly what he is saying and he's quite good at responding to audience members on the fly. Again, watch the state of the Union. Compare that to Trump that just talks in circles, makes no sense, wont respond to a question from the audience who is not MAGA and thinks Biden is going to start WW 2. TWO!

Besides all that, you are a very shallow person if you gauge intelligence by a performance on stage. Many brilliant people would not make good public speaking appearances. Does that make them unqualified for their job? In your book that's exactly what you are trying to say. Biden has accomplished more in the last 2 years than Trump's entire presidency. It's a fact. I like presidents who get shit done, not ones that cant even finish a boarder wall.

Stop feeding the troll.

You'll feel better

He'll feel ignored

At least Biden isn't on social media at 3AM making deranged posts and acting like a petty, vindictive bitch.

Anyone that does not donate time and or money ,as well as vote , deserves a trump desantis scott world to live in.

Biden is the only President Of The United States right now. Not Trump, and the elections aren't happening now. Saying "but Trump is worse" in one way or another is stupid and has nothing to do with Biden.

There's a weird parallel between Biden and Fetterman.

R356, Yeah, Jill is a Philly girl.

R355 Agree

Joe Rogan" He (Trump) might be crazy he might be associated he's crazy and stupid say all those things, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that there's something wrong with Biden. like he makes up words he stumbles through things it seems like he doesn't know where he is half the time he's very very old"

Apparetnly Joe got caught in a time warp.

Why is this the only thread you're posting in, r359?

(^.^) Nancy has joined the discussion

This is hardly a "discussion", r361.

[Quote] At least Biden isn't on social media at 3AM making deranged posts and acting like a petty, vindictive bitch.

Joe awake at 3AM! He's lucky if he makes to 3PM

[quote]Joe awake at 3AM! He's lucky if he makes to 3PM

My kind of guy!

r363 is also:

[quote]Trump as this interview demonstrates is more lucid than Biden. Whether you agree with him or not he speaks without notecards or any teleprompter and is able to give facts, examples, details and specifics.

Sure, Jan.

DL Stalker (^.^)

NEW ARG POLL

A total of 39% of Americans say they approve of the way Joe Biden is handling his job as president and 56% say they disapprove of the way Biden is handling his job according to the latest survey from the American Research Group. In August, 41% approved of the way Biden was handling his job as president and 54% disapproved.

When it comes to Biden's handling of the economy, 37% of Americans approve and 59% disapprove. In August, 37% approved of the way Biden was handling the economy and 58% disapproved.

Among Americans registered to vote, 40% approve of the way Biden is handling his job as president and 56% disapprove. On Biden's handling of the economy, 37% of registered voters approve and 58% disapprove.

Of the 39% of Americans saying they approve of the way Biden is handling his job as president, 65% say they expect the national economy will be better a year from now. Of the 56% saying they disapprove of the way Biden his handling his job as president, 71% say they expect the national economy will be worse a year from now.

Overall, 37% of Americans say that they approve of the way Joe Biden is handling the economy, 59% disapprove, and 4% are undecided. Among registered voters, 37% approve and 58% disapprove of the way Biden is handling the economy.

r359 = r366...sock puppets?

[quote]Biden is the only President Of The United States right now. Not Trump, and the elections aren't happening now. Saying "but Trump is worse" in one way or another is stupid and has nothing to do with Biden.

Oh Boris, try saying that to your boss Putin. You really think he's going to wait until the election to decide on how to medal with it? Trump is every bit a part of this conversation since he is the likely Republican nominee. It will be Biden/Trump and you know it.

But we can see what you are doing, you want to change to argument to just pick on one side. Comparing them to the alternative Trump destroys your silly posts.

R365 you should follow your own advice @R352

[Quote]Stop feeding the troll.

[Quote]You'll feel better

[Quote]He'll feel ignored

R369 What's with this 'we' shit, Sybil? and have you worn out the M-A-G-T-R-U-M-P-B-O-I-S keys yet?

Trump falling asleep on the job.

I’m not American so in one way I have no dog in this race, but as a citizen of the “free world” and an ongoing admirer of the USA, I have to say that Biden’s cognitive decline (and it’s there for all to see) scares me less than a Trump presidency. I wish that Harris was more electable (and I’m shocked that she’s not, for the American electorate) but if an aging Biden can get it across the line then stepping down for Harris, then do it. It’s hardly an ideal scenario but better than Trump Mk2. How did you guys get yourselves into this situation?

Now standing by for the first “it’s a thing called democracy” reply.

Biden has a 12 point lead!

I know you'd like that, r370, I don't need to follow that advice because you aren't annoying me and I'm obviously bothering you by calling you out on your shit. I don't stalk...I quote.

You seem annoyed R375

R372 Trump's failings/faults don't mitigate Joe's or make him seem any less lost and confused.

Lol, nope, r376

Yesterday at Hispanic Caucus, he referred to the attendees as "The Black Caucus." Time to retire, Joe.

Black, Hispanic, whatever. All those dark people look alike.

Someone mentioned you on the thread about "I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden's age" in [R378] 6 minutes ago

Can't see or hear you R378

Yeah...r381 ...this *is* the "I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden's age" thread and *I'm* r378. Do you smell burnt toast? Do you need a wellness check?

R379 Did he ever hear of MLK or Colin Powell?

We still doing that Boris thing?

R380, “The little brown ones . . .”

for some that 'Boris thing' is freedom of speech aka democracy in action

r386 thinks there are exactly 57 Boris' on datalounge.

[quote]Black, Hispanic, whatever. All those dark people look alike.

There are millions of people who are part black AND Hispanic. Grow the F up Boris. I guess in such a white country this comes a shock to you.

[quote]We still doing that Boris thing?

We still doing the Russian Troll farm thing? Last time I checked they Putin was still president and troll farms were still in operation.

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She was great in Gaslight but those trying to gaslight posters into buying the 'fit as a fiddle' 'sharp as a tack' Joe Biden with diversion tactics are too obvious.

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Fresh as springtime . . .and twice as young . . .um

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If Biden has to step down for health reasons before next November, do you guys think Kamala could beat Trump? It's going to be a crazy enough election as it is, given Trump's legal situation.

R395 If Biden steps down before the election that doesn't mean that Kamala would be the nominee, does it?

another day another gaffe

Gbnews

Such a reliable, unbiased source there.

so, Joe didn't make that claim R398? and how reliable is your opinion? What news sources would you trust?

What has biased have to do with the false claim Joe made. It's hardly the first time. During his short lived 1988 presidential campaign he falsely claimed he graduated in the top half of his class.

Is Newsweek misquoting him?

Lol, you're getting frustrated because we aren't buying your shit, aren't you, r400?

His the video

here's👍

r403 will do *anything* for youth!

Joe told one of the grieving Afghanistan botched departure parents that his son Beau arrived home in a flag draped coffin.

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So persuasive R405 It's clear you've run out of bullets because you are posting irrelevant nonsense

[quote]because you are posting irrelevant nonsense

Look up the word projection, r408...

Talk about irrelevant nonsense

Every mass shooting! Not even close.

R409 You type old. Do you identify with Joe?

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You type willfully obtuse, r412.

I'm glad...

How nice for you. How are the Depends working out? How do you handle that old man smell?

Tread carefully R415

[quote][R409]You type old. Do you identify with Joe?

Pot calling kettle black, r412?

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Donny threw a terrible tantrum at the G7 summit in Sicily as no one wanted to push his baby golf cart, until Angela said enough is enough and took the matter in her own hands.

'You're too old to vote for me' Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

His false claims and exaggerations in 1987 can't be blamed on senility.

R395 Will he make it to November of this year?

Cenk Uygur is done with the situation:

Why is public service full of self centered people who can’t train and mentor the next generation of leaders in a timely fashion. It’s like the dog nuts, the whole point of it all is to make yourself feel good at the expense of everyone else.

[quote]Cenk Uygur is done with the situation:

Wow, from Newsweek, which is not at all a virulently right-wing "news" site.

Yeah, r426, the troll on this thread is really showing his colors with his choice of sources.

It's rare for the media to report the truth. Enjoy it while it lasts.

In 2020 the press covered for Joe's every stumble. They'll do so again if Trump gets the nomination but Joe's obvious incapacitaties scare them too much to just sit quietly now.

The greatest tragedy of the Trump administration occurred in 2019, when that dirtball scumbag, draft-dodging piece of human garbage/walking talking turd was allowed to preside over the 75th anniversary of D-Day. Then the whiny assed bitch did nothing but complain about how far he had to walk and how the wind was messing up his orange 'do.

R420 through R425: why do you want to suck Donald Trump's cock and eat his nasty, shit encrusted asshole out so badly?

I happily voted for Biden in 2020. He's a disappointment. I don't think he's even making policy. If it's between him and Trump, I'll vote for Biden again, but wish I had a better choice.

[quote]Cenk Uygur is done with the situation:

[quote]He's a disappointment. I don't think he's even making policy.

[quote]If it's between him and Trump, I'll vote for Biden again

How politically astute you must be.

R429 Don’t speak for me. I’ll vote for Biden, but that’s because voting in America is more an exercise in choose the best option and less an option you actually resonate with in a more nuanced fashion.

[Quote]Wow, from Newsweek, which is not at all a virulently right-wing "news" site.

Yeah, let's blame Newsweek for his fails, gaffes, confusion, lies and exaggerated claims. See R442 where he falsely claims to have marched in the Civil Rights Movement, but he never did of course. Where he claims to have graduated in the top half of his class and where he was found to have been guilty of plagiarism. It's a pattern that still continues 25 years later.

Oh, dear! Excuse my gaffe I must be becoming senile. It was 35 years ago that Biden ran for President for the first time. A campaign that lasted 3 months.

[Quote]why do you want to suck Donald Trump's cock and eat his nasty, shit encrusted asshole out so badly?

👍proof that 10-year-olds post on DL

"Where he claims to have graduated in the top half of his class and where he was found to have been guilty of plagiarism."

You mean like Melania Trump claims she graduated from a university and has a degree in architecture, then stole Michelle Obama's speech and claimed it was hers? That kind of plagiarism?

Id be OK with it if it wasn't mostly coming from Trump fans.

Trump is as old as Biden was when they started calling him "Sleepy Joe". Will they call their idol "Sleepy Don"?

When did Melania run for President R437 ?

[quote]If it's between him and Trump, I'll vote for Biden again

Jesus. Only complete morons would vote for Trump at this point. Well, plus racists and fascists.

Don't try to tell me Gavin isn't laying the groundwork for a presidential run

Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday vetoed a bill that would have asked judges presiding over custody battles to take into consideration a parent's support for their child's gender identity — a culture war flashpoint that has drawn vocal criticism from the right.

R434 = Tara READE

R437 btw So you think the cocaine recently found at the White House belonged to Melania?

R440, a lot of voters are very angry at Biden, mostly due to inflation, some are angry at the number of migrants entering the US and the border situation. Joe seems unresponsive and his press secretary isn't helping. I don't remember either Clinton or Obama being so out of touch with the populace. Of course republicans are goint to dislike Biden but a large number of independents and some dems are disappointed. As things stand now it's going to be a very close election.

or maybe it belonged to Don Sr. or Junior. If so, they really need to fire the cleaning staff!

This thread...

But you're clearly a Trump supporter, R444, so I'm not much interested in your opinion.

So different than the young-uns R446

R444, you can't be serious. I noted I voted for Biden and will do again, although I wish I had another choice.

[quote]although I wish I had another choice.

We know, r449...

We need competency exam. This is not a nursing home.

Biden's border. The number of illegal immigrants entering America in August set a new record, according to data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

President Joe Biden's job approval rating is 19 points underwater, his ratings for handling the economy and immigration are at career lows. A record number of Americans say they've become worse off under his presidency, three-quarters say he's too old for another term and Donald Trump is looking better in retrospect -- all severe challenges for Biden in his reelection campaign ahead.-ABC

Pick your poison.

and then there's this

and this

and again

Well jeez the coot falls a few times. I guess we’ll take Stalin instead!!!!!

The fact that the biggest contenders to lead the most powerful nation in the world are Biden and Trump shows just how far America has fallen.

It's ghetto here, now.

[quote] Pick your poison.

The polls all show the same thing. The nation as a whole doesn't WANT either of them. But also that they want Biden even less than Trump.

Biden needs to address the migrant crisis now. Liberals have a change of heart when busloads of migrants show up in their city or town. NJ Governor Murphy has stated he doesn't want them and NY Governor Hochul has said to migrants thinking of coming to NY to "Go somewhere else" Residents in Staten Island have been arrested during protests where they attempted to block busloads of migrants.

[quote]three-quarters say he's too old for another term and Donald Trump is looking better in retrospect

Looking better to retards, maybe. Not to people with functioning brains.

Uhoh

[quote]If Biden has to step down for health reasons before next November, do you guys think Kamala could beat Trump? It's going to be a crazy enough election as it is, given Trump's legal situation.

The short answer is YES!.

Because at the end of the day, whoever takes that job from the Democratic side is a far, far better choice that a criminal facing 91 indictment and endless court cases all of his own doing, some of which happened even after he left the White House.

R461, that is not a boarder problem it's a racist Staten Island problem. Birthplace of "The Mob Wives" it an island filled with criminal families and their Ilk. There was a cop injured in that protest by those "fine" Staten Island citizen just for doing his job.

Racism is in Donald's blood, but dont take my word for it. Just listen to what his actual family member Mary Trump says about it.

“that is not a boarder problem“

Oh, dear.

Look, I support Biden, I will vote for Biden. But, he is old lol. He's also not as sharp as he once was. It's just a fact. There is no denying this. And I watch unedited items. Someone I know who works directly with him has told me they are not worried in the slightest about his mental capacity. They've had many conversations with Biden and he's fine. This person would also know as they parent's had issues as they aged. Now.... do I still love the choices we have with these older men? Nope. Do I wish we could get some younger folks in there, yep.

For those old enough to remember the feeling of hope and anticipation when JFK was inaugurated in 1961, we’ve come a long way . . . but in the wrong direction.

[quote] the feeling of hope and anticipation when JFK was inaugurated in 1961

Except JFK only proved "hope and anticipation" are no way to pick a preisdent. Jack's presidency was one fuckup after another. But lapdog media leaders like Ben Bradlee closed their eyes each time or made excuses claiming it was actually good.

DUNE was written with the express purpose of warning against following the charismatic politician who leads you down the wrong roads.

“𝘐 𝘸𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘋𝘶𝘯𝘦 𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘐 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘢 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘤 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘦𝘭 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘦𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥: "𝘔𝘢𝘺 𝘣𝘦 𝘥𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘵𝘩." 𝘖𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘥𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘸𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘺 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘑𝘰𝘩𝘯 𝘒𝘦𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘥𝘺 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 "𝘠𝘦𝘴 𝘚𝘪𝘳 𝘔𝘳. 𝘊𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘤 𝘓𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘥𝘰 𝘸𝘦 𝘥𝘰 𝘯𝘦𝘹𝘵?" 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘶𝘱 𝘪𝘯 𝘝𝘪𝘦𝘵𝘯𝘢𝘮."

"proof that 10-year-olds post on DL"

Because when you went a serious, Algonquin Round Table like discussion on any subject, you go to the anonymous internet message board that has a "pointless bitchery" sign at the entrance.

Idiot troll.

R470, Ike got us into Vietnam. In his final interview with Walter Cronkite, JFK was all for exiting Vietnam(“In the end, it’s their war”).

It was LBJ who escalated our involvement in Vietnam.

R456 . . .

Excuses! Excuses!

Over the hill

Martha Raddatz practically went into cardiac arrest this morning on “This Week” over Biden’s standings in the latest ABC poll.

Trolldar r475.

[Quote] that is not a boarder problem it's a racist Staten Island problem. Birthplace of "The Mob Wives" it an island filled with criminal families and their Ilk. There was a cop injured in that protest by those "fine" Staten Island citizen just for doing his job.

You forgot to mention the NY and NJ Governors. It's not about race. The problems of housing, processing and schooling thousands is a complex one. Just the number of new school entrants is going to call for so many additional teachers and classrooms at a time when there is a teacher shortage. Then there's the language barrier.

R465 it's not simply 'a racist Staten Island problem'

Well, if it's in the NY Post, r479...

OP uses only the best sources!

So you assert that the video in the link below is a fake, R480, because it's in the Post?

Do you have any proof? Are you a Cuomo insider?

You're not just spewing out shit and that sad, shopworn eyeroll gif in order to distract us and prevent us from discussing this, right? You have something to back up your claim that this is "fake news," right?

Goodness, r482, you sound unhinged.

R482 So true . The person at R480 who I blocked a while ago is using diversion by attacking the credibility of the source and/or the poster. And only a cellar dweller would not realize all the various problems the surge of migrants is causing. It's not fake news!

It's clear it's become a humanitarian crisis.

[quote]using diversion by attacking the credibility of the source

You're adorable, r484/ r485 ... go shriek about migrants somewhere else.

[quote]Look, I support Biden, I will vote for Biden. But, he is old lol. He's also not as sharp as he once was.

Why is that funny? You think you are the only one who can see Biden is old? We got it, you don't like the old guy. We really don't need 400 post trying to "inform" us of what you think everyone doesn't know. Your endless ranting about it is just showing what a tool you are from the right. He's old, we know that. We still want him over Trump. Get over it and move on and stop trolling us with your "I will vote for him but" relentless posts.

[Quote] Mainly he was just seen as a babbling buffoon, given some tolerance as twice his brain had been opened surgically and scooped out.

R202 maybe they scooped out too much

Voting against Trump may not be enough this time. It’s has been 4 years since he has been in office. I am not sure he will be enough of a draw. And Biden, love him as a man and a potus, is old old old and not wanted by far to many.

The Dems need energy. They will need enthusiasm . Biden-Harris?

Obama-Newsom or Newsom-Obama. Either way that would be a ticket to get excited over.

But the Dems , at least the Dems of DL, are like the Captain of the Titanic —-nothing to see here , nothing to worry about, go to bed and don’t worry

[quote]I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden's age

I'm afraid the next 13 months are going to be difficult for you. (And the rest of us.)

[Quote] Because when you went a serious

Biden could fall into a coma and DL would still accuse people of being Russian trolls for suggesting he may not be fit for duty.

I'm not even American, but I really do not want another Trump presidency. I never want to see that freak again unless he's in an orange jumpsuit. It seems entirely possible that Biden will not be able to run in 2024 for health reasons. It doesn't matter if he's in good health for eighty: he's still eighty. I'd rather he stepped down now and allowed Kamala a year to establish herself as a competent leader before the election.

"Obama-Newsom or Newsom-Obama. Either way that would be a ticket to get excited over."

Not much of a dream ticket. Neither Barack nor Michelle Obama want the damn job, they had sufficient from 2009 to 2017 and never want to go back.

Republicans would have a field day with a Newsom candidacy. It would be a non-stop barrage about the homelessness in CA, CA's deficit, the out-migration of jobs from CA, its population loss.

Personally, I don't want anyone near the US presidency who has such terrible decision making skills by marrying uber cunt/sexual predator/coke fiend Kimberly Guilfoyle. He may have divorced the witch, but her putrid pussy stench is still on him.

R493

When Biden does have to drop out for health reason who would you like to see on the ticket?

R494, I’m ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille.

r492-

[quote]I'm not even American,

Then butt out, Kit.

[quote]It seems entirely possible that Biden will not be able to run in 2024 for health reasons.

Anything is possible and you have nothing to base that on except for his age.

[quote]I'd rather he stepped down now and allowed Kamala a year to establish herself as a competent leader before the election.

Really?

Trump is old too and he says ridiculous things that aren’t true all the time. It’s just that he’s always been that way. Is that really better, though??

That's me told, R496!

[Quote] Well jeez the coot falls a few times. I guess we’ll take Stalin instead!!!!!

Overreact much? There are more ice-cream flavors than vanilla and chocolate. Not everything is either or.

The real Biden occasionally slips out

He is clearly no longer fit for re-election. To think Kamala is one broken blood vessel away from the presidency is frightening.

R500 is a troll because if he were American he would know that "boy" has two meanings, a touchy word when referring to a young black man, but and ALSO totally normal word to use if referring to a younger man. Especially if the person saying it is twice their age. I'm 50 something and when I visit a friend in a retirement home, they still call me young man. I see anyone under 30 as a young man. A guy who is 18 going off to war is just a baby in my book.

[quote] ALSO totally normal word to use if referring to a younger man.

As an American, no, it’s not, and it’s never okay to refer to a black adult man as that.

[quote] [R500] is a troll because if he were American

You need to address your alibis for Joe with the insulted American black guys.

[quote] he would know that "boy" has two meanings

Live by political correctness, die by political correctness.

R241 - Hanged, dear. The proper usage is hanged.

and ironically R304 it's Biden who had 2 surgeries for leaking arteries on both side of the brain in 1988!

Soon after ending his first presidential bid that year, Biden, who had been suffering from what he thought were headaches and a pinched nerve, collapsed in a hotel room shortly after giving a speech on foreign policy.

In his book "Promises to Keep," Biden says that he was unconscious for over four hours before he woke up in a hospital in Wilmington, Del. The senator was told that an artery was leaking blood into his brain and he was given his last rites by a priest. He was transferred to Walter Reed Medical Center where it was discovered that he had a second aneurysm on the other side of his brain.

Biden immediately underwent a four-and-a-half-hour operation to remove the leaking aneurysm. He had a second surgery in May to repair the other aneurysm and fully recovered after taking a seven-month leave from his seat as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

R506, And JFK’s handlers were fearful of his Addison’s disease being revealed?

R503, you have racist issues you need to resolve if you think ever time an adult refers to a very young men as boys it's a racist. What about calling young woman girls? Is that racist too? Sometimes older adults still see young people as girls and boys even though they may actually be young men and young woman. Skin color is irrelevant. Grow up.

R508, Working for an international financial firm in 1999, I was overheard referring to a fellow worker as a “girl” in an elevator and was called down to HR and admonished.

Do we really want to talk medical issues r506? Trump wont even release his real medical conditions or even his true weight. He had that personal doctor write a fake over the top description of his health and when called out on it the doctor said basically everyone knows he was just kidding. Except he never did release the actual records.