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Thousands die as floodwaters inundate Libya

The city of Derna, in eastern Libya, has buried 700 victims of catastrophic flooding, with 10,000 people reported missing

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by Anonymousreply 112September 26, 2023 1:19 AM

I was annoyed the other day because it started raining while I was running errands, and my umbrella was in the trunk. I had to get out in the rain, walk to the back of the vehicle, get the umbrella out of the trunk, and open it while holding a bag of items I needed to return. I got wet.

by Anonymousreply 1September 13, 2023 2:22 AM

R1 You get wet often?

by Anonymousreply 2September 13, 2023 2:36 AM

First the Moroccan earthquake. Now this. It’s God’s will and the first of the plagues!

by Anonymousreply 3September 13, 2023 2:44 AM

Ten thousand people are missing. This is outrageous.

by Anonymousreply 4September 13, 2023 2:47 AM

My mind can’t get wrapped around this. It’s monstrous. Those poor people in that already miserable country.

by Anonymousreply 5September 13, 2023 2:50 AM

Yikes, 10k missing -- terrible. That's more than half of the number of victims in Japan's tsunami.

by Anonymousreply 6September 13, 2023 2:51 AM

It's raining now. I wonder if I'll drown, too.

by Anonymousreply 7September 13, 2023 2:52 AM

I watch footage of the 311 Japanese tsnumani regularly on YouTube. That is a society that pulled together during a terrible time..there's no way American society will be able to do the same

by Anonymousreply 8September 13, 2023 2:57 AM

The search for survivors and recovery of bodies in desert summer heat is going to be an absolute nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 9September 13, 2023 3:03 AM

R6 The Indonesia tsunami was horrible, too. When the surf goes waaaaay out, run.

by Anonymousreply 10September 13, 2023 3:09 AM

How absolutely awful. Here I am feeling sorry for myself, and so many have it so much worse. I'm just sorry these disasters happen and so many die and suffer and become displaced.

by Anonymousreply 11September 13, 2023 3:18 AM

It will be double that number and more by the time everything gets sorted out too R6.

by Anonymousreply 12September 13, 2023 3:23 AM

[quote]You get wet often?

Only when cagemeat escapes from the nearby penitentiary.

by Anonymousreply 13September 13, 2023 3:35 AM

I went through Derna in 2000. The old city had a quint market but it was destroyed in 2018. Kind of a shit hole town but a nice location. I was on my way to the magnificent ruins at Cyrene.

I think 1/4 of the city was washed out. The core. Thousands dead and horrible but the news never frames the total scale of the location and what is destroyed and what is not. Like a few weeks ago when people understood that the island Maui had burned to ashes when it was one fat slice of one town.

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by Anonymousreply 14September 13, 2023 6:26 PM


by Anonymousreply 15September 13, 2023 6:26 PM

The videos of the rampaging water look terrifying.

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by Anonymousreply 16September 13, 2023 6:33 PM

this one.

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by Anonymousreply 17September 13, 2023 6:38 PM

R17, I believe that is Japan.

by Anonymousreply 18September 13, 2023 6:40 PM

R18 you may be right but some troll posted it as Libya. The buildings look too high quality.

by Anonymousreply 19September 13, 2023 6:41 PM

Won't someone please think of the CAFTANS?

by Anonymousreply 20September 13, 2023 6:55 PM

That video at R16 was odd. Who the hells adds a music track to a video showing people’s lives in danger?

by Anonymousreply 21September 13, 2023 6:58 PM


Why do you watch that footage? Not trying to be snarky but I am curious as to what you get out of it. Is it intriguing on a scientific level?

by Anonymousreply 22September 13, 2023 7:07 PM

R22, I'm not R8, but I've watched tsunami videos because I work near a somewhat tsunami-hazard zone, and I'd like to know what to do if/when the time comes.

And the answer to that... is to mainly hope for luck.

by Anonymousreply 23September 13, 2023 8:08 PM

Makes sense - again, I’m not making fun because I watch trashy cop body cam videos myself - I’m just curious. Do the videos give you a sense of control or actual tips on what to do?

by Anonymousreply 24September 13, 2023 8:10 PM

R24, mainly good tips on what it looks like when the tide has receded, what the initial incoming wave looks like (a line of white foam in the distance), and how much time you have to get to higher ground.

Also lots of examples of what [italic]not[/italic] to do. Don't stand around and watch. Forget all belongings. Never go back to retrieve something.

by Anonymousreply 25September 13, 2023 8:25 PM

Seeing a white line of foam off in the distance sounds pretty terrifying.

by Anonymousreply 26September 13, 2023 8:33 PM

Fuck y'all!

by Anonymousreply 27September 13, 2023 8:36 PM

Neither of those videos is Libya.

by Anonymousreply 28September 13, 2023 9:05 PM

Typical. But the Internet is nothing but misinformation.

by Anonymousreply 29September 13, 2023 9:15 PM

We came, we saw, they drowned. CACKLE CACKLE CACKLE

by Anonymousreply 30September 13, 2023 9:19 PM

I watch footage of people who can barely stand upright because the earth is shaking so violently evacuate to higher ground only to see their entire town wash away 15 minutes later. They had a mere 15 minutes to evacuate and its astonishing footage. I'm sure there's a Golden Girls rerun that would interest you more.

by Anonymousreply 31September 13, 2023 11:04 PM

A unique looking environment excluding the catastrophic flooding. Much more interesting than doobuy

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by Anonymousreply 32September 14, 2023 12:25 AM

How is this cleanup even possible

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by Anonymousreply 33September 14, 2023 12:37 AM

Death Toll from Libyan Floods Tops 6,000 in Latest Climate Disaster

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by Anonymousreply 34September 14, 2023 12:39 AM


I suppose you’re speaking to me - I actually don’t watch GG and I don’t care that you watch disaster videos. I already said that I watch trashy videos myself so I wasn’t judging and it’s OK to answer without snark or defensiveness. I was just curious as to why you watched them, what draws you to them: is the impending disaster? Is it watching the people realize what’s about to happen? Is it the natural movements of the earth and water?

by Anonymousreply 35September 14, 2023 1:29 AM

People were talking about the white line of foam out in the sea, so I was thinking it was being totally flooded from a sea surge. But, damns broke with water coming down from higher elevations. So both? Not good.

by Anonymousreply 36September 14, 2023 1:39 AM

The footage was recorded in real time and the survivors had 15 minutes to get to higher ground. It is shocking footage. The Japanese built levees to prepare for this catastrophic event however the earthquake was so violent and the tsnumai so powerful, the levees were no match for the flood waters. 15 minutes? I am waiting for a coffee in the morning longer than 15 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 37September 14, 2023 1:39 AM

Two dams in Libya burst and caused the flooding. The survivors say the dams were not properly maintained

by Anonymousreply 38September 14, 2023 1:41 AM


by Anonymousreply 39September 14, 2023 2:35 AM

Damn dams.

by Anonymousreply 40September 14, 2023 2:42 AM

Lockerbie says hello Libya.

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by Anonymousreply 41September 14, 2023 3:20 AM

"Perfectly happy to rule over the rubble" Are Libyan leaders responsible for thousands of deaths?

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by Anonymousreply 42September 14, 2023 4:02 AM

Failed ex-state. And it could have been a rich country.

by Anonymousreply 43September 14, 2023 7:38 AM

R29 i wonder when the first news station will AI generate footage that does not exist. AI will bring a nightmare upon us in this regard. It must be very tempting.

by Anonymousreply 44September 14, 2023 9:28 AM

R33, Indonesia and Sri Lanka (also poor countries) had to contend with this same tragic and logistical nightmare. :(

by Anonymousreply 45September 14, 2023 9:48 AM

Libya is not poor. Just broken.

by Anonymousreply 46September 14, 2023 11:24 AM

On that regard, neither is Indonesia poor.

The cause is ruling parties who don't give a shit about individuals and the lives of individuals. Apparently the dams were in a disastrous state and no one acting during the storm to avert 2 dam failures and also protect the population from inevitable evidence those damns were going to fail.

I guess two things could have been done - emergency evacuation during the torrential rains of the low lying areas of that city and also controlled release causing massive flooding on the river bed down to the sea.

This is like the Johnston flood and working engineers would have seen it coming and been obliged to prevent human catastrophe.

Libya has been decimated by 12 years of civil war and chaos.

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by Anonymousreply 47September 14, 2023 11:30 AM

Libya has one of the highest if not the highest gpd in Africa.

by Anonymousreply 48September 14, 2023 11:32 AM

GDP I meant

by Anonymousreply 49September 14, 2023 11:59 AM

Estimated death toll now over 20,000

[quote] Failed ex-state

Smashed ex-state.

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by Anonymousreply 50September 14, 2023 5:13 PM

These poor people don't get a break.

by Anonymousreply 51September 14, 2023 5:16 PM

Looking at the videos my impression is that Derna's frequently cited population of 85,000 to 90,000 was undercounted. Still a quarter of the city gone does factor to 20K+.

by Anonymousreply 52September 14, 2023 6:14 PM

Libya Flood Disaster That Killed Thousands Was Decades in Making

Dams that collapsed in the storm had received no maintenance in more than 20 years despite repeated warning

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by Anonymousreply 53September 14, 2023 6:35 PM

Derna’s mayor, Abdul Moneem Al-Ghaithi, issued an order on his official Facebook account to evacuate parts of the city. He also sent excavators to move rocks to act as levees along the coastline—believing the worst risk of flooding would come from the sea.

But later that evening, the evacuation order was overruled by Haftar. (RUSSIAN BACKED WARLOARD) Chairing a cabinet meeting late Saturday, the warlord said he had decided to stick to a curfew, granting a two-day vacation so that locals could stay at home, according to a video of the meeting posted on local media.

“We ask God [for the rain] to be very beneficial for the people of the region,” he said.

Soon after, locals received a text message: “Stay at home,” it said, according to a copy of the message seen by the Journal.

Meanwhile, in Tripoli, where an internationally recognized government was nominally in charge of Libya’s water infrastructure, the authorities showed no sign that they were aware of the risk of disaster.

“Dear citizens, please be informed that the dams are in good condition and things are still under control and there are no fears of collapse at this moment,” the Ministry of Water Resources said in a statement at around midnight Sunday.

Engineers from the nearby tech university knew damned well the deplorable condition and has been sounding the alarm for years.

by Anonymousreply 54September 14, 2023 6:43 PM

Libya floods kill over 11,300 as city of Derna is swept away

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by Anonymousreply 55September 15, 2023 12:26 AM

Libya flooding: Fears of up to 20,000 dead

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by Anonymousreply 56September 15, 2023 12:48 AM

It's what Allah wanted

by Anonymousreply 57September 15, 2023 1:16 AM

Don't go there with that anti moose lamb bs

by Anonymousreply 58September 15, 2023 1:18 AM

[quote]Those poor people in that already miserable country.

Take heart, there are fewer suffering.

by Anonymousreply 59September 15, 2023 1:18 AM

R50, that is catastrophic. But why were all of these people allowed to live directly at or even near the dams' outflow?

by Anonymousreply 60September 15, 2023 7:03 AM

I once watched a handsome Libyan guy play with his fat muslim willy on chjaturbate. I sure hope he made it out alright.

by Anonymousreply 61September 15, 2023 7:14 AM

R61, praise Allah -- he used his fat Libyan willy as a flotation device to ride out into the Mediterranean Sea!

by Anonymousreply 62September 15, 2023 7:29 AM

No maintenance on the dams since 2002, and they've been warned about this happening.

by Anonymousreply 63September 15, 2023 7:49 AM

[quote] the evacuation order was overruled by Haftar. (RUSSIAN BACKED WARLOARD)

I've not kept up on this man and who may be backing him now but Haftar for years was CIA's main Libyan boy. After he failed to overthrow Qaddafi he was brought to America, given a home in Vienna Virginia just a few minutes drive away from CIA headquarters, and granted American citizenship. He was sent back after Qaddafi stupidly was overthrown and murdered. Whatever Haftar now is doing in Libya's debris America initiated and enabled.

by Anonymousreply 64September 15, 2023 7:58 AM

I'm guessing this is one grift the Clintons are going to have to pass on.

by Anonymousreply 65September 15, 2023 12:01 PM

What grift is that R65?

by Anonymousreply 66September 15, 2023 12:03 PM

How they and the foundation always show up for some disaster and no one ever seems to really know where the money went.

by Anonymousreply 67September 15, 2023 12:11 PM

After Hillary's loss the "charitable contributions" laundered through the foundation dropped significantly.

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by Anonymousreply 68September 15, 2023 12:19 PM

Just like her face.

by Anonymousreply 69September 15, 2023 12:23 PM

The death toll here will be way more than 20,000 dead - if they ever even know how many.

by Anonymousreply 70September 15, 2023 12:35 PM

Nighttime flooding!

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by Anonymousreply 71September 15, 2023 4:53 PM

the night shot is hellish

by Anonymousreply 72September 15, 2023 5:33 PM

How long did this flooding last?

by Anonymousreply 73September 15, 2023 7:29 PM

All backwards Arabic nations must suffer and repent!

by Anonymousreply 74September 15, 2023 7:36 PM

The sad thing is that this will probably lead to religious Muslim fundies claiming that the dead were sinners. That's what happened in Banda Aceh, Indonesia following their tsunami. The region went from already devout to even more fundie.

by Anonymousreply 75September 15, 2023 7:39 PM

[quote] The Japanese built levees to prepare for this catastrophic event however the earthquake was so violent and the tsnumai so powerful, the levees were no match for the flood waters.

The earth dropped several feet as one techtonic plate slid under another. That made the 30 ft sea wall only 27 or 28 ft high, which meant the water easily breached it.

by Anonymousreply 76September 15, 2023 7:57 PM

Lol R51

Go to Saudi and get your head cut off, bitch!

by Anonymousreply 77September 15, 2023 8:03 PM

R76, the Japanese also built designated tsunami evacuation centers in the region. However, the height of tsunami inundation (in some places over 100 feet) exceeded the height of many of these shelters, and thus, many people who followed proper procedure ended up washed away. To be fair, nobody expected waves of that height and magnitude.

by Anonymousreply 78September 15, 2023 8:04 PM

This doesn't sound good.

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by Anonymousreply 79September 15, 2023 9:41 PM

Turkish teams recover bodies in Derna

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by Anonymousreply 80September 16, 2023 12:10 AM

That video at R71 is horrifying.

by Anonymousreply 81September 16, 2023 4:39 AM

I suppose all of the cruising areas are gone also. Now where will the local gays meet up?

by Anonymousreply 82September 16, 2023 7:20 AM

This is a dry, arid region of Africa, too. What are they going to do without that reservoir of water?

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by Anonymousreply 84September 16, 2023 7:54 AM

At least they have lots of water.

by Anonymousreply 85September 17, 2023 6:07 AM

"investigation"= it wasn't me

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by Anonymousreply 86September 17, 2023 9:14 AM

R86, not surprising.

by Anonymousreply 87September 18, 2023 8:15 AM

Good explanation of what happened and how the dams were situated to the city. Bummer for Derna the Libyan government had ceased to exist.

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by Anonymousreply 88September 18, 2023 11:54 AM

Don't think that this can't happen here [in the States]. A lot of our dams are poorly maintained and in disrepair.

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by Anonymousreply 89September 19, 2023 5:07 AM


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by Anonymousreply 90September 19, 2023 5:35 AM

R90, that is true that I'm being a Debbie Downer, but this type of thing has happened before!

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by Anonymousreply 91September 19, 2023 5:51 AM

I'm joshing you and agree. I posted Johnstown at R47.

by Anonymousreply 92September 19, 2023 6:13 AM


Of course let the survivors get on a boat to try and cross over to Europe and watch all the sympathetic and sorrowful comments dry up....

by Anonymousreply 93September 19, 2023 6:20 AM

This is nothing . Just wait until the Three Gorges Dam cracks.

by Anonymousreply 94September 19, 2023 6:46 AM

Looks like Libya is out of luck. The Clinton Foundation is concentrating on helping Ukraine. LOL

by Anonymousreply 95September 19, 2023 8:50 PM

What amuses you about this?

by Anonymousreply 96September 20, 2023 12:20 AM

[quote] What amuses you about this?

I've wondered for years about the supervillian laugh

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by Anonymousreply 97September 20, 2023 12:31 AM

that he died clip is the only time Hillary seemed genuine and truly excited.

by Anonymousreply 98September 20, 2023 1:04 AM

R94, that is a terrifying and catastrophic scenario, and given China's reputation for less-than-stellar engineering and construction, I'm not entirely sure that's too far off from becoming an eventual reality.

by Anonymousreply 99September 20, 2023 1:11 AM

Libya is in death and decay hell right now.

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by Anonymousreply 100September 20, 2023 1:15 AM

Allah’s Nation

by Anonymousreply 101September 21, 2023 12:00 AM

Fukkking skkkum.

by Anonymousreply 102September 21, 2023 12:03 AM

Derna mayor's house burnt down in protests.

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by Anonymousreply 103September 23, 2023 3:42 AM

^If only we had as much gumption to get rid of [italic]our[/italic] terrible, corrupt politicians.

by Anonymousreply 104September 23, 2023 4:36 AM

R104 had the same thought before I read your comment.

by Anonymousreply 105September 23, 2023 6:17 AM

I'm not American and I also had the same thought about the US R104 and R105.

You seriously need a large Guillotine factory to be going at full speed there.

by Anonymousreply 106September 23, 2023 7:15 AM

Now that mayor knows what being homeless feels like

by Anonymousreply 107September 23, 2023 8:05 AM

It is a very beautiful location with views of the mountain and the sea.

by Anonymousreply 108September 23, 2023 8:07 AM

He sure does R107.

by Anonymousreply 109September 23, 2023 8:10 AM

The mountains get green a bit further west on the coast. The Greek city of Apollonia is now Sousse (French) or Susa. Fascinating ruins litter the mostly barren coastline. However Libya is extremely rich in history and it's a pity they haven't managed a stable enough government to protect their heritage and share it with the world as a travel destination.

by Anonymousreply 110September 23, 2023 8:27 AM

Here's a report in English on Susa

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by Anonymousreply 111September 23, 2023 8:29 AM

16 officials arrested in flood investigation

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