Eclectic food, affordable lofts, nice river, decent location close to Boston and beaches/skiing...Found a very affordable artists' loft in an old mill building. I live in Brooklyn and am OVER IT. And I have friends near Boston. Ready for a change and don't want to be in Boston proper...would rather be closer to the North Shore and some water. Planning to visit this weekend. New England DLers, I want some unvarnished opinions.
Please talk to me about Lowell, Massachusetts
|by Anonymous||reply 123||September 19, 2023 10:17 PM|
In Lowell all seems to breathe freedom and peace and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||September 11, 2023 11:04 PM|
I went to grad school there 1989-91, so I’m sure it’s changed a lot since I was there. There wasn’t much gay life up there, so I was schlepping into Boston to hit the bars and get laid. But if you’re not looking for that, it’s a decent place to live.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||September 11, 2023 11:08 PM|
It’s no Lawrence, that’s for sure
|by Anonymous||reply 3||September 11, 2023 11:12 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 4||September 11, 2023 11:13 PM|
You simply must visit Bette's childhood home.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||September 11, 2023 11:18 PM|
Does Olympia Dukakis' birth home come with a plaque too?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||September 11, 2023 11:27 PM|
It's tiny but idyllic. Has a great little wine store right off the bridge.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||September 12, 2023 12:00 AM|
Birthplace of Jack Kerouac
|by Anonymous||reply 8||September 12, 2023 12:31 AM|
My friends and I went to the Commadore Ballroom every Friday night during the summer when we were in high school. Saw The Yardbirds, Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels, The Animals and some others. I can't remember all of them, I'm old. Good times.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||September 12, 2023 12:50 AM|
r9 did you go to Lowell high and if so what year?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||September 12, 2023 1:03 AM|
Love Lowell. Some nice restaurants, wonderful history, and lots of brick.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||September 12, 2023 1:47 AM|
R10 No, Billerica.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||September 12, 2023 1:52 AM|
I visited it when it was still considered a slum. I thought dvd back then it was a neat city.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||September 12, 2023 1:56 AM|
Some great architecture and a fascinating utopian industrial past.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||September 12, 2023 4:06 AM|
Lowell is in the Merrimack Valley. Near Southern New Hampshire. It’s not all that near the North Shore. It’s not really near anything. If you’re going to move to that area why not move to Newburyport or someplace nice?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||September 12, 2023 4:19 AM|
It’s where high on crack street took place
|by Anonymous||reply 16||September 12, 2023 4:25 AM|
[quote] I thought dvd back then
|by Anonymous||reply 17||September 12, 2023 6:42 AM|
r9 Did you go to high school with Bette Davis?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||September 12, 2023 6:44 AM|
It's a breeding ground for bug-eyed, low-bosomed, hammy narcissistic actresses.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||September 12, 2023 9:10 AM|
hablas español cartel original?
|by Anonymous||reply 20||September 12, 2023 12:59 PM|
Ed McMahon grew up in Lowell
|by Anonymous||reply 21||September 12, 2023 1:00 PM|
My rich Boston friend’s trashy Puerto Rican boyfriend lives there. Guy’s a douchebag. And my rich friend does not know true hardships. Just first-world bs because his millionaire CEO mother protects him.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||September 12, 2023 3:16 PM|
Bette Davis and Ed McMahon and Jack Kerouac all got out of there so that should tell you something.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||September 12, 2023 6:19 PM|
It's rather nice, but "decent location close to Boston " is somewhat misleading. You will never go to Boston once you're there for a while. The schlep will quickly become not worth it except for special events (and for that the commuter rail is handy) but it will end up costing you a lot of money. You'll find other things to do around the North Shore and Cape Ann, which are great.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||September 12, 2023 7:23 PM|
More warp than weft if you catch my drift.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||September 12, 2023 7:42 PM|
Boston is not NYC. There’s no reason to visit and very little nightlife.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||September 12, 2023 7:51 PM|
As kids on trips to NH, we always got a chuckle when passing the monolithic Soviet-looking building with the big WANG sign.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||September 12, 2023 7:52 PM|
I pass through every week in my trip from CT to Maine. I don’t think I could do any town in the Merrimack Valley at least until I got closer to the ocean. I guess that is more North Shore then. I’d look more into New Hampshire or Mail myself.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||September 12, 2023 9:01 PM|
R23. Yes, because people in show business would THRIVE in Lowell if it were livable—the live theatre, comedy, and TV trade is so hoppy there. And would you really expect someone who wrote a novel called “On the Road” to stay in his hometown?
Idiotic post of the day.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||September 12, 2023 9:36 PM|
R29 I guess the humor went over your head, because you're a moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||September 12, 2023 9:37 PM|
It’s a very erotic place.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||September 12, 2023 9:41 PM|
It's about a 30-40 minute drive to Singing Beach in Manchester BTS. Worth the season pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||September 12, 2023 10:59 PM|
The onetime home of Prince Spaghetti.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||September 12, 2023 11:02 PM|
2010's The Fighter (Amy Adams, Christian Bale, Marky Mark, Mickey Ward) was filmed in Lowell.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||September 13, 2023 12:52 AM|
I’m 40 minutes away from Lowell and I don’t think I’ve ever been there in my life.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||September 13, 2023 1:04 AM|
"Eclectic food" on the East Coast means "tons of mayonnaise."
|by Anonymous||reply 36||September 13, 2023 1:06 AM|
r36 hasn't been many places on the East coast.
It's not Indiana, or Missouri.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||September 13, 2023 3:05 AM|
It appears that not a single person on this thread has set foot in Lowell in the past 30 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||September 13, 2023 4:22 AM|
Here’s some people, R38, that at least are said to have been in Lowell - and each other - lately.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||September 13, 2023 11:29 AM|
Further to former, Tower News on Gotham St (right off the Lowell Connector) is your local source for news.
As well as gay and straight booths for DVD viewing and so on. My friend Alan is a regular and says the rubes down from NH for the legal MMJ (big dispensary/retail weed store down the street) have to be coaxed into the gay side whilst the Hispanics know what they want and don’t hesitate.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||September 13, 2023 11:36 AM|
R35 I'm 25 min. away and have only been there about 3 times.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||September 13, 2023 2:03 PM|
I went to Lowell for a funeral several years ago.
It's a mixed bag.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||September 13, 2023 2:55 PM|
Greg, stick to East Arlington!
|by Anonymous||reply 43||September 13, 2023 4:14 PM|
[quote] Greg, stick to East Arlington!
I am never in Arlington—North, South, East, or West.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||September 13, 2023 5:57 PM|
Greg - you should move to West Concord.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||September 13, 2023 7:59 PM|
[quote] Greg - you should move to West Concord.
Now why would I do that, R45?
|by Anonymous||reply 46||September 13, 2023 8:01 PM|
Posh, charming, and sedate - a nice respite from ... where is it you live?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||September 13, 2023 8:13 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 48||September 13, 2023 8:50 PM|
… also posh and charming.
Less sedate, however.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||September 13, 2023 8:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 50||September 13, 2023 9:41 PM|
“Here’s to the town of Boston, The land of the bean and the cod,
Where the Lowells speak only to Cabots,
And the Cabots speak only to God.”
|by Anonymous||reply 51||September 13, 2023 10:01 PM|
DLers pull these "I'm thinking of moving to..." threads out of their FETID ASSES. AND JUST SHART OUT ANYTHING.
Lowell is far from the ocean, and the two NH ski places somewhat near it are rinky dinky affairs.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||September 13, 2023 10:15 PM|
R32 Not trying to be argumentative (really) but what is the big deal about Singing Beach (other than the name)? Been there a few times in my life and don’t really get it.
By the way just so people know, many of the beaches on Cape Ann and the North Shore are ridiculously expensive. The whole area is really very overrated but seems to be popular as a vacation spot more for New Yorkers than locals (who often go to the Cape, New Hampshire, or Maine).
|by Anonymous||reply 53||September 13, 2023 10:28 PM|
I say this because of all the New York state license plates you see there in summer.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||September 13, 2023 10:29 PM|
People near Boston go to the Cape in the summer? Knock Gerg over with a feather…there’s more menus to plan.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||September 13, 2023 10:30 PM|
North Shore beaches have frigid water.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||September 13, 2023 10:33 PM|
It’s not religious or absolute, but a lot of people south of Boston go to the Cape while a lot of people north of Boston go to the NH lakes, mountains, or shore, or southern Maine shore, or Maine lakes.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||September 13, 2023 10:35 PM|
I go to providence
|by Anonymous||reply 58||September 13, 2023 10:39 PM|
The Rhode Island beaches are great.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||September 13, 2023 10:41 PM|
I here Revere Beach is better than Antibes
|by Anonymous||reply 60||September 13, 2023 10:42 PM|
I heard it, honest ^
|by Anonymous||reply 61||September 13, 2023 10:43 PM|
Nahant is low key.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||September 13, 2023 10:47 PM|
[quote] North Reading? East Boston?
Ah … no thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||September 13, 2023 10:56 PM|
East Boston is like this custard pie that I’m making.
No upper crust.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||September 13, 2023 10:58 PM|
Horseneck Beach is quite nice.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||September 13, 2023 10:58 PM|
Mass offers a DCR parks pass, you can use it in Nahant (and I think, Salisbury, not many other ocean beaches, because there aren’t many DCR beaches, most are private or owned by the town they’re in). If you’re over 60, I think it is, you can get a lifetime senior DCR pass for 10 bucks.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||September 13, 2023 10:59 PM|
And I like Wingaersheek Beach in Gloucester.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||September 13, 2023 11:00 PM|
What kind of commonwealth allows beaches to be held as private property. How undemocratic.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||September 13, 2023 11:02 PM|
Wingaersheek is a great beach, also a good beach to dig clams at low tide. But don’t go alone, it costs 25 or 30 bucks (probably more now) to park.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||September 13, 2023 11:03 PM|
R68 As a MA resident I couldn’t agree more.
Also I wish CA beaches hadn’t started charging as much to park - because I think beaches should be free or close to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||September 13, 2023 11:04 PM|
[quote] What kind of commonwealth allows beaches to be held as private property. How undemocratic.
But I have a dear friend with a house on Long Beach in Rockport and I love that it’s a private beach.
It’s truly beautiful and the only people on the beach are those who reside there and their guests.
We will spend the day kayaking and swimming and then have cocktails on his deck overlooking the beach. It’s lovely.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||September 13, 2023 11:08 PM|
There’s are free—you just need to know where to park ;)
|by Anonymous||reply 72||September 13, 2023 11:10 PM|
[quote] There’s are free
|by Anonymous||reply 73||September 13, 2023 11:12 PM|
[quote] People near Boston go to the Cape in the summer? Knock Gerg over with a feather…there’s more menus to plan.
And why is that, R55?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||September 13, 2023 11:16 PM|
Long Beach Gloucester is open to the public, though. Funny but it now costs $30 on weekdays and $35 on weekends. When I was a teen/twenty-something, it was $5. We used to go there because other beaches were $10 or $15.
You can also go on the private part of Wingaersheek, to the left of the regular beach, if you go at low tide and walk around the point, or wade around other times, It’s a really nice, long beach, sort of like a Maine beach. That’s where you usually see all the NY license plates.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||September 13, 2023 11:17 PM|
Except for the couple weeks in the end of July when the greenhead horseflies are wicked aggressive, I always liked Crane beach outside Ipswich, when I lived in the area. You can avoid the steep parking fee with a nice bike ride from town.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||September 13, 2023 11:18 PM|
R72 There’s are free? English please.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||September 13, 2023 11:19 PM|
The greenheads are bad throughout that area, a few years ago I got attacked in the damn parking lot on Plum Island as I was getting in my car to go home. Got around 12 bites on my legs, ruined almost the whole summer.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||September 13, 2023 11:34 PM|
The greenheads are after meat. When you examine the bite, it's like they take a not so tiny ice cream scoop to your flesh.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||September 14, 2023 12:09 AM|
R77 don’t be a pedant when the faulty autocorrect is obvious and the intent is clear. It’s not a good look on you—like a paisley caftan from your closet.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||September 14, 2023 12:16 AM|
That's not a result of autocorrect, doll.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||September 14, 2023 8:19 AM|
Prepare for heavy winters. Especially with nearby a waterway.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||September 14, 2023 8:31 AM|
The rest areas on Rte 3 north of Lowell to the NH border were legendary for all the 24 hr bare-assed action that took place there out in the open,, to the extent that they were all shut down.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||September 14, 2023 11:04 AM|
It’s not far from the NH (Live Free Or Die) border so you can drive up and shop without sales tax.
I don’t think you can live in Lowell - or wouldn’t enjoy it - without a car, unlike where you currently live.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||September 14, 2023 7:15 PM|
Lenox has a china pattern named "Lowell"
Tasteful, not gaudy.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||September 14, 2023 10:45 PM|
Greg, where do you actually reside???
|by Anonymous||reply 86||September 15, 2023 10:31 PM|
Greg posts from his ward at Solomon Carter Fuller clinic.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||September 15, 2023 10:36 PM|
r87, oh my.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||September 15, 2023 10:37 PM|
Singing Beach in Manchester by the Sea on the North Shore is lovely--and a lovely, wealthy town too. And you can take the commuter train from Boston to get there. Very convenient.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||September 15, 2023 11:04 PM|
[quote] Greg, where do you actually reside???
Boston and Cape Cod.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||September 16, 2023 5:32 AM|
R89 Who cares if a beach is in a wealthy town?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||September 16, 2023 11:54 AM|
More to the point, who gives a fuck about Singing Beach located in Manchester-by-the-Sea, a 40 minute drive from the place the thread is about, Lowell? Few if any Lowell residents would ever be seen there, let alone be regular beachgoers where they can’t park.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||September 16, 2023 12:01 PM|
R92 Because OP opened the door to talking about the North Shore and beaches.
[quote] decent location close to Boston and beaches/skiing...
[quote] don't want to be in Boston proper...would rather be closer to the North Shore and some water.
The second part is confusing. Boston is on the water, Lowell isn’t. And Lowell is no closer to the North Shore than Boston, they’re a similar distance. I just looked it up to make sure, and for ex. Boston to Rockport is 47 miles and Lowell to Rockport is 49 miles.
The closest beaches to Lowell in terms of driving convenience are probably the New Hampshire beaches, Hampton, Rye and Seabrook, since you can take 495 and 95. But they’re probably about 40 minutes away, as well, and in summer there’s traffic backup up for miles at the NH tolls.
My advice would be if you want to be close to beaches don’t move to Lowell.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||September 16, 2023 12:24 PM|
He can take 495 to 110 and go to Salisbury.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||September 16, 2023 9:39 PM|
Free parking at Salisbury if over a certain age. And then to Markey’s Lobster Pool for dinner on the State line. (Although it was better under the previous owner)
|by Anonymous||reply 95||September 16, 2023 10:12 PM|
R94 Yeah I didn't mention Salisbury because I don't like it, but I should have mentioned it. It has that gritty sand, and the undertow. That beach also can have a lot of traffic on the way in, though. Some of these beaches being "30-40 minutes" from Lowell are more like 2 hours with summer beach traffic. Unless you leave early in the morning and leave the beach early.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||September 16, 2023 11:25 PM|
Why they have not fixed the New Hampshire tolls is beyond me. All they need to do is open up the EZ pass lanes to the same number of lanes leading up to the tolls. There are only 2 EZ pass lanes with at least 10 booths that largely sit empty except for one or two. They don't even staff them 24 hours a day during the off season. Such a waste of time...and gas...
|by Anonymous||reply 97||September 16, 2023 11:58 PM|
Have you ever been there when the toll booth by Hampton Beach is empty and they are just letting everyone through? There’s a story there.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||September 17, 2023 12:09 AM|
R98 So are you just going to leave it at that?
|by Anonymous||reply 99||September 17, 2023 2:44 PM|
You probably won’t believe me, but my understanding is that there is a group of billionaires (or maybe just multi-millionaires) that have meetings just north of Hampton Beach and when they do they “buy out” the toll booth for the day so there’s no danger of sitting in traffic at that exit.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||September 17, 2023 6:53 PM|
If they were billionaires meeting just north of Hampton Beach, wouldn’t they just take a helicopter to Pease or Logan? Be a helluva lot cheaper than paying everyone’s tolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||September 17, 2023 7:40 PM|
That’s the lamest conspiracy theory I’ve heard in quite some time.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||September 17, 2023 7:53 PM|
The Location Troll rears her ugly head again.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||September 17, 2023 7:55 PM|
I never saw it happen at that toll. How often does it happen?
Unlike the old days, the toll booth now has EZ Pass so the tolls probably don't make as much at the gate as they used to. Keeping it open wouldn't be as costly. OTOH it's now two bucks and it used to be change.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||September 17, 2023 8:10 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 105||September 17, 2023 8:11 PM|
I imagine the toll booth lines moved faster when you could throw 20 cents into the basket, where now you have to stop and hand someone two bucks, or wait for change of a five, ten, or twenty.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||September 17, 2023 8:11 PM|
Although that was Route 1, pre Route 95, and that never moved fast. As a kid we used to go on vacation in Southern Maine from suburban Boston. On a Saturday morning it used to take three hours go get to York Beach. Up and down those hills on 2-lane Route 1.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||September 17, 2023 8:14 PM|
I think only twice a year. I heard the story from someone who had worked at the firm up there’s few decades ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||September 17, 2023 8:15 PM|
I don't doubt it.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||September 17, 2023 8:20 PM|
One of the few times I was in Boston, I was headed into the city on the Mass Pike, after the point that it switches over to in-route tolls, near the supermarket that crosses the highway, I pulled up to the tollbooth, and was told that the person in front of had paid my toll. I was like what? The toll taker looked very bored, semi-rolled her eyes, and motioned me on.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||September 17, 2023 9:50 PM|
Greg, the Cape is OVAH. Move to Maine.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||September 17, 2023 9:56 PM|
Hey, OP! I’m also in Brooklyn and often think of moving. Not sure if I’m over it, like you are. But yeah, some days NY drives me nuts. The problem is, when I visit other places, then I really miss Brooklyn.
Anyway, I’ll share my Lowell Mass story. I visited to go to a good friend’s wedding. He married a woman who was born in Cambodia and has a lot of family in Lowell. (FYI, big concentration of Cambodians/Cambodian-Americans in Lowell.
The wedding was a blast. My impression of Lowell? It was pretty gritty. But not scary at all. Downtown seemed pretty walkable. There was a bit of an arts scene there. All in all, it looked like a place with possibilities. But, as other posters have made abundantly clear, not an ideal spot if you’re an avid beachgoer.
I, too, would like to live close to the beach. But at least in the Northeast, that seems reserved for folks with (way) more $$$ than I have.
Btw, I’m curious, what exactly are you fed up with in Brooklyn?
|by Anonymous||reply 112||September 17, 2023 10:22 PM|
[quote] Greg, the Cape is OVAH. Move to Maine.
I have a teeny place on Cranberry Island.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||September 17, 2023 10:27 PM|
The Great one?
|by Anonymous||reply 114||September 17, 2023 11:00 PM|
[quote] The Great one?
The Little one.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||September 17, 2023 11:34 PM|
Greg, you need to snag a place in Kennebunkport. The Cape traffic is vile.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||September 18, 2023 2:02 PM|
[quote] Greg, you need to snag a place in Kennebunkport. The Cape traffic is vile.
The good news is, my schedule allows me to avoid traveling to and from the Cape during high traffic times.
My parents once had a place in Ogunquit, but no longer.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||September 18, 2023 2:30 PM|
I live in Boston but love taking a day trip up to Lowell just for the Cambodian food. And Mill No. 5 is a fabulous adaptive reuse of one of the city’s many historic mill buildings, with local shops, a cafe/music venue, and a single-screen arthouse/rep movie theater. They put on all sorts of events and themed markets throughout the year.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||September 18, 2023 2:38 PM|
A bunch of us got fed up with Brooklyn at the same time. I moved to Geneva, another alighted to Istanbul and another to Salvador da Bahia. Yes we were the pretentious as fuck cohort of Brooklyn expats but at least we thought larger than Lowell for crissakes.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||September 19, 2023 6:03 AM|
Do all of the women there look like this?
|by Anonymous||reply 120||September 19, 2023 6:24 AM|
They don’t look Cambodian to me…
|by Anonymous||reply 121||September 19, 2023 11:04 AM|
R110 Probably my cousin’s husband. Just kidding, but he’s somebody who does that, sometimes, I’ve been with him when he’s done it on 95 at the NH tolls. Thinks he’s a big man. Once I was driving up there with my mom and she wanted me to do it - copying him - so I did.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||September 19, 2023 11:10 AM|
R122 Thank you. Sometimes called paying it backward.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||September 19, 2023 10:17 PM|