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The Gays and Tennis -- Part 156 USO and the Carpet Season

Did you say carpets? They ALL eat 'em. They do!

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by Anonymousreply 545October 4, 2023 12:02 AM

MEN!!! FINALLY! Mind to have a drink with me boyzzz?

Hello, I'm another person in the world? Hello? This is so rude. And what am I? Chopped liver?

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by Anonymousreply 1September 10, 2023 11:05 PM

"Gorgon Ferocity"

by Anonymousreply 2September 10, 2023 11:27 PM

I feel nothing.

by Anonymousreply 3September 10, 2023 11:42 PM

Thanks for the new thread, OP. Shouldn't it be Part 158?

by Anonymousreply 4September 11, 2023 12:12 AM

If this is Part 156, let's rewrite history.

by Anonymousreply 5September 11, 2023 12:25 AM

Here's to Rafa returning 2024, healthy and ready to play, winning all Grand Slams , then retire at 26 Grand Slams

by Anonymousreply 6September 11, 2023 12:38 AM

Everything about Novaxx is so fake. The man is not genuine, Everything about him seems so staged. Inauthentic asshole

by Anonymousreply 7September 11, 2023 12:39 AM

Shapo and fiancee.

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by Anonymousreply 8September 11, 2023 12:47 AM

OP your pic is of the worst human. Ugly on the inside and out. We have to look at her while at the Australian Open every year. F*ck you Margaret Court, you religious bigot.

by Anonymousreply 9September 11, 2023 1:17 AM

[quote] F*ck you Margaret Court, you religious bigot.

And still GOAT.

by Anonymousreply 10September 11, 2023 1:19 AM

Does Shapo suffer from the Poison P like Daddy and our sweet innocent Tommy Paul?

by Anonymousreply 11September 11, 2023 1:20 AM

Poison P Daddy.

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by Anonymousreply 12September 11, 2023 1:21 AM

Doesn’t Court hold many of her records because few highly ranked players traveled to Australia when she was competing?

by Anonymousreply 13September 11, 2023 1:48 AM

Yes^ and not everyone was pro when she played if I'm not mistaken. I started watching tennis in the 80s and many American players didn't even go then because it was within the holiday time.

by Anonymousreply 14September 11, 2023 1:50 AM

Serena had 2 close chances in 2018 amd one in 2019 to get to 26. Damn you Osaka, Bianca and that druggie Halep

by Anonymousreply 15September 11, 2023 1:59 AM

That's Margaret Court?! I don't follow tennis beyond checking scores for big tournaments, but I used to in the 70s and early 80s when I was a teen and remember her. I've passed this thread a few times scrolling and I think "Damn. What a sour-looking old biddy." and crack up. Shame about her.

by Anonymousreply 16September 11, 2023 2:11 AM

Margaret Court is a homophobic cunt.

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by Anonymousreply 17September 11, 2023 2:19 AM

Court always ranked high on my list of women whose appearance and demeanour coexisted uneasily with their homophobia. Another was Midge Decter.

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by Anonymousreply 18September 11, 2023 2:38 AM

Thought that was Jackie Hoffman.

by Anonymousreply 19September 11, 2023 3:39 AM

Even though Djokovic is a horrible human being, Margaret Court may always have the edge on him making her the eternal GOAT. Her hate has made her powerful.

by Anonymousreply 20September 11, 2023 3:47 AM

R17. Did she overlook the verse about women remaining silent in church?

by Anonymousreply 21September 11, 2023 3:56 AM

R7= Holden Caulfield

by Anonymousreply 22September 11, 2023 4:02 AM

R20. Isn’t she GOAT only in a simplistic statistical sense? She won the required number of titles, but many of those titles were not that competitive.

She seems full of bitterness in general—-bitching about not getting her due recognition.

by Anonymousreply 23September 11, 2023 4:11 AM

Court's beliefs are despicable, but the disparaging of her record is also not necessarily acccurate. The Australians she won often did have very competetive fields, in fact, Court's first victory at the Aussie Open had a field that included Maria Bueno and Christine Truman the number one and two players in the world (the event was in January 1960, and Bueno had won Wimbledon and the US the previous year, while Truman won the French and was runner up at the US). Even the years when U.S players did not go down to Australia, still featured top players like Lesley Bowrey (2x Grand Slam champion), Judy Dalton, Kerry Melville, Robin Ebbern, and Jan Lehane (whe defeated Bueno at the '60 Aussie). Court's a bigot, but she was one of the greats (I don't believe in a single GOAT), but I believe that Court is with Serena, Graf, Navratilova and Evert as the top 5. This is not counting legends like Lenglen, Connolly or Wills from the pre-1960 era.

by Anonymousreply 24September 11, 2023 4:20 AM

R24. You mention some highly tanked players who went to Australia, but can you claim those Australian titles over all were as competitive as titles in Europe or America?

by Anonymousreply 25September 11, 2023 4:24 AM

Cunt, I meant Court's face looks like a cat's puckered asshole.

by Anonymousreply 26September 11, 2023 4:26 AM

I didn't even bother watching the final and nobody has even commented on it here.

by Anonymousreply 27September 11, 2023 4:30 AM

OP why the fuck post a picture of that homophobic cunt???

JFC. We want to rename the stadium. She's hates the gays.

by Anonymousreply 28September 11, 2023 4:47 AM

To be fair, Court won everything. Not just Aussie's. She won 13 other slams. Let's say she only wins 6 of the 11 Aussies if they were more competitive. That still gives her 19.

So, while I would never ever put her on the same level as Graf, Serena, Chrissie, or Martina, I would put her one small step below those Big Four.

Being a cunt of all cunts doesn't change that she was really damn good.

by Anonymousreply 29September 11, 2023 4:59 AM


by Anonymousreply 30September 11, 2023 5:02 AM

[quote] Being a cunt of all cunts doesn't change that she was really damn good.

That not only makes me good, it makes me GOAT!

by Anonymousreply 31September 11, 2023 5:03 AM

Novaxx will be back to no. 1. Coco with a new career high of no. 3.

by Anonymousreply 32September 11, 2023 5:24 AM

R25, comparitively it varies for event to event. Court also didn't play in any Grand Slam events in 1967, missed the U.S. in 1966, missed three of four in 1972, and yet no one questions the winners of the events that Court missed, despite her absence being a glaring omission in terms of quality, as she won all four GS in 1970 and won 3 of 4 in 1962, 1965, 1969, and 1973. So at the end of the day, though some of the fields at the Australian were not as strong, there were also years when the European events were lacking field-wise, as well.

by Anonymousreply 33September 11, 2023 6:41 AM

R27, on the other thread they did. It had a lot of the hypnotic long exchanges of Djokovic-Murray matches, in which you know you are watching very solid shot making but don’t really want to see 22-shot rallies on every point. I think that the intense humidity here really did impair Djokovic in the second set, but it’s also true that, at this point, everything is a weapon for him. He actually did need to slow down the pace of the match, but that conveniently undermined Medvedev’s rhythm. E eventually his confidence was just gone. People who play sports say that by the time you really understand the game, you are too old to benefit from that knowledge. It didn’t work out that way with Djokovic, who now knows everything but somehow is still able to play.

by Anonymousreply 34September 11, 2023 7:28 AM

^ somehow

by Anonymousreply 35September 11, 2023 7:49 AM

[quote]I seem to recall Fed walking into court with his current number of wins (13? 14?)

No it was at Wimbledon. Sampras and Federer were both holding a record 14 GS titles and Roger entered the court with the number 15 embroidered on his shoes, towels and his jacket. It was so disrespectful towards Andy Roddick who was his opponent, like it was a done deal when he entered the court. I didn't like Roger before that, but I actively hated him after he did it. Of course Anna Winter was applauding frantically. She probably was behind the idea.

by Anonymousreply 36September 11, 2023 9:38 AM

R9, At first, I thought it was Patti LuPone.

by Anonymousreply 37September 11, 2023 9:40 AM

R603 from the last thread:

[quote] Novak obviously gets zero respect from the lot of fat, bloated losers on the DL. Do any of you play tennis? Compete at anything on a high level, other than silly insults? Jealousy gets you what? Go bow at the altar of Fed and the butt picker, and remember all their wonderful moments. And then count....to 24, and eat shit.

I’m not fat, bloated, or a loser, darl. And I play tennis. I’ve also had a great career and have reached the highest level in my own particular field. I’m not jealous of Djokovic, do not bow at the altar of Federer or Nadal. Hats off to 24—a truly impressive feat.

Shame, though, that Djokovic is unbearable in terms of his public image, and so transparently nasty and smarmy. An even bigger shame is his arrogant, “truth-defying” and (unfortunately) very public and influential stance on public health issues, as well as his recourse to questionable “official state documents” regarding his health status to get around another country’s legitimate legal provisions.

You’d do better to stop assuming that anyone’s dislike of Djokovic is based on a blinding love for Federer or Nadal. I think most of us who don’t care for him are swayed more by his truly awful public image than any sense of disappointment that he’s got more GSs than his historical rivals.

by Anonymousreply 38September 11, 2023 9:45 AM

I loved the Djoker from the moment he took on Andy Roddick in NY who was a total cunt to him in his news conference. Roddick won his only GS due to favorable scheduling. In the game of what ifs, how many GS would Novak have if he emigrated to US or UK?

At every slam, he's had the least favorable scheduling, for good reasons, even this week, playing 2 matches in the heat. That's what makes him so impressive to me.

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by Anonymousreply 39September 11, 2023 10:14 AM

R38 what did Roddick say/ about Djokovich?

by Anonymousreply 40September 11, 2023 11:01 AM

Mopsy up to #19 in rankings

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by Anonymousreply 41September 11, 2023 11:11 AM

You're right of course, R4.

I've never been good with figures -- excepting my own.

by Anonymousreply 42September 11, 2023 11:13 AM

[quote]Roddick won his only GS due to favorable scheduling. In the game of what ifs, how many GS would Novak have if he emigrated to US or UK? At every slam, he's had the least favorable scheduling, for good reasons, even this week, playing 2 matches in the heat. That's what makes him so impressive to me.

You're right that if he had been American or British, he'd automatically have had good scheduling but players like Federer and Nadal always got great scheduling because they're popular. So if Novaxx wasn't such a bit of an ass, he would have similar.

by Anonymousreply 43September 11, 2023 12:52 PM

[quote] Novak obviously gets zero respect from the lot of fat, bloated losers on the DL. Do any of you play tennis? Compete at anything on a high level, other than silly insults? Jealousy gets you what? Go bow at the altar of Fed and the butt picker, and remember all their wonderful moments. And then count....to 24, and eat shit.

Fascist little bootlickers in the tennis thread?


by Anonymousreply 44September 11, 2023 12:58 PM

Along with his own foibles, the entire tennis business machine has amplified and curated his villainous behavior while simultaneously carefully crafting the images of Fedal.

There were times when Roger threw his racket or barked at a ball kid and not only would he not be questioned about it, the commentators wouldn't mention it and not replay the clip. Thou shall NOT criticize Roger or you won't get the Nike gift bag or be invited to the Rolex party. One year at Wimbledon, McEnroe said something negative and I swear he was banished for a year. I'd love to hear what he really thinks about some of the business politics and Tony Godsik.

And don't get me started on Nadal living atop an island of interconnected closets. While Novak's psychological weaknesses have been analyzed with excruciating detail, NO ONE in the media has ever discussed, or asked about, why Nadal has the need to do a 21 step routine just to serve a point. What the fuck is THAT all about? Don't ask, it would be rude but let's talk endlessly about Novak's "desperate need to be liked" and his fakeness.

And so what? That's life, but to me, that's what makes his accomplishments even more impressive.

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by Anonymousreply 46September 11, 2023 1:51 PM

Shelton is ranked way too high

by Anonymousreply 47September 11, 2023 1:52 PM

Wow Ruune fell off

by Anonymousreply 48September 11, 2023 1:53 PM

Rune Vs Mopsy would be an awesome shitwatch - which one can out-obnoxious the other?

Apparently it's what the 'fans' want these days.

by Anonymousreply 49September 11, 2023 2:03 PM

Shelton was exciting but he said in the hallway interview his plan was to "just get out there and get the fans involved". Not, "play the best match of my life" . And this from an interview a couple of months ago is telling about his goals and who he is.

“I want to be that dude in the draw that there’s not one player who wants to see me,” he said. “I’m talking scared of me, genuinely, like Roger in his prime – he pulls up to a tournament, everyone’s thinking about him.”

by Anonymousreply 50September 11, 2023 2:21 PM

[quote]Nadal living atop an island of interconnected closets


by Anonymousreply 51September 11, 2023 2:36 PM

Andy Roddick:

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by Anonymousreply 52September 11, 2023 2:43 PM

What a charmer!

by Anonymousreply 53September 11, 2023 2:43 PM

Andy Roddick:

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by Anonymousreply 54September 11, 2023 2:44 PM

Novak was on the Gayle King show this morning and looking super handsome

by Anonymousreply 55September 11, 2023 2:48 PM

Okay, R245.

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by Anonymousreply 56September 11, 2023 3:20 PM

Erm, R45, that is.

by Anonymousreply 57September 11, 2023 3:21 PM

You can't pick your relatives, but you can pick your butt.

by Anonymousreply 58September 11, 2023 3:40 PM

Nadal doesn't pick his butt and dick in public/ off court , his antics are just a way to buy time

by Anonymousreply 59September 11, 2023 4:00 PM

R24 and R29 - why doesn't Billie Jean King deserve to be in the top tier?

She won 39 Grand Slam titles: 12 in singles, 16 in women's doubles, and 11 in mixed doubles. King was a member of the victorious United States team in seven Federation Cups and nine Wightman Cups.

And R39, I read, I think on an earlier thread, that Novak himself asked for afternoon instead of night. Probably something to do with his complicated drug taking rituals. I must say, he has it all figured out pretty well. All hail Creatinovak Djokovic!

by Anonymousreply 60September 11, 2023 4:31 PM

And Sabs has squawked her way to #1 baby !!!

Coco at 3 - will she have staying power? Only 19 so ups and downs are expected and the American press will be on it. Woo hoo for us :(

by Anonymousreply 61September 11, 2023 5:24 PM

She Hulk reigns Supreme!

by Anonymousreply 62September 11, 2023 6:46 PM

[quote] King was a member of the victorious United States team in seven Federation Cups and nine Wightman Cups.

And she was one of the Original Nine!

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by Anonymousreply 63September 11, 2023 6:57 PM

Op, who’s the guy on the picture you posted?

by Anonymousreply 64September 11, 2023 7:21 PM

That's Margaret Court-Smith, silly!

Here's a better photo of her.

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by Anonymousreply 65September 11, 2023 9:36 PM

Novak is the Debbie-Downer of tennis.

by Anonymousreply 66September 11, 2023 10:24 PM

[quote] That's Margaret Court-Smith, silly! Here's a better photo of her.

I am GOAT.

by Anonymousreply 67September 11, 2023 10:49 PM

Is this where we talk about the San Diego Open?

by Anonymousreply 68September 11, 2023 11:55 PM

Why do the american tv presenters mangle his name so badly? It's 2023 and they're still calling him Novak JOKER-vitch.

by Anonymousreply 69September 12, 2023 12:45 AM

Well, in fairness, he is the Djoker.

by Anonymousreply 70September 12, 2023 1:00 AM

I did not like Novak Djokovic in his role as "Djoker".

by Anonymousreply 71September 12, 2023 1:03 AM

Enough talk about Miss CREATINA. Let's move on

by Anonymousreply 72September 12, 2023 1:04 AM

Lorenzo mole when he was younger.

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by Anonymousreply 73September 12, 2023 6:42 AM

Awww. How cute, r73. Here he is again, with a few clips showing off his great skills at an early age.

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by Anonymousreply 74September 12, 2023 10:11 AM

Lore needs to marry me.

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by Anonymousreply 75September 12, 2023 10:40 AM

Get in line, r75.

by Anonymousreply 76September 12, 2023 11:02 AM

You need to get laid. People who constantly post about how hot celebs aren't getting any.

by Anonymousreply 77September 12, 2023 11:04 AM

^ not true

I got laid quite thoroughly on Sunday. I still lust after Lore.

by Anonymousreply 78September 12, 2023 11:06 AM


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by Anonymousreply 79September 12, 2023 11:19 AM

It's boring and cringe for other people to hear about - just go and jerk off?

by Anonymousreply 80September 12, 2023 11:51 AM

Fuck you cunts for making us have to look at the gay hating, anti-LGBT campaigner Margaret Court every time this fucking thread pops up the top of DL.

by Anonymousreply 81September 12, 2023 12:08 PM

R80, I enjoy these photos, even if I'm not into a particular player. It's part of the ambiance of these threads.

by Anonymousreply 82September 12, 2023 1:07 PM

R80 shut up

by Anonymousreply 83September 12, 2023 1:50 PM

Yeah, fuck off R80, you don't speak for anyone but yourself

by Anonymousreply 84September 12, 2023 2:42 PM

How very Hemingway of Carlitos.

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by Anonymousreply 85September 12, 2023 2:58 PM

speaking of something morally repulsive...

by Anonymousreply 86September 12, 2023 3:40 PM

Halep receives four-year suspension.

by Anonymousreply 87September 12, 2023 3:52 PM

But Halep was going on like this was all a mistake and she would be back in time for end of year tournaments

by Anonymousreply 88September 12, 2023 4:03 PM

[quore] Halep receives four-year suspension.


Holy shit!!!

by Anonymousreply 89September 12, 2023 4:03 PM

Does that mean Serena can appeal her 2018 Wimbledon loss to Halep?

by Anonymousreply 90September 12, 2023 4:04 PM


by Anonymousreply 91September 12, 2023 4:05 PM

Serious stuff.

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by Anonymousreply 92September 12, 2023 4:06 PM

Serena had 4 chances to tie Court's record and she let these slip away

by Anonymousreply 93September 12, 2023 4:10 PM

Simona is done

by Anonymousreply 94September 12, 2023 4:12 PM

I want to believe she’s innocent — but how does a drug used to treat kidney failure show up in her system?

by Anonymousreply 95September 12, 2023 4:14 PM

Damm. That's just sad.

by Anonymousreply 96September 12, 2023 4:19 PM

At least she married well...

by Anonymousreply 97September 12, 2023 4:36 PM

She's divorced

by Anonymousreply 98September 12, 2023 5:19 PM


by Anonymousreply 99September 12, 2023 5:47 PM
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by Anonymousreply 100September 12, 2023 5:49 PM

[quote]She's divorced

Really? I must have missed that. I thought she was married to some gabillionaire.

Hope she divorced well.

by Anonymousreply 101September 12, 2023 7:31 PM

Monica Seles is married to a billionaire.

by Anonymousreply 102September 12, 2023 7:36 PM

Happy for Monica. Looks like someone who deserves a happy life

by Anonymousreply 103September 12, 2023 7:59 PM

Halep is claiming she switched supplements and one got contaminated.

However… how does a supplement get contaminated with a kidney failure drug?

I’m struggling to follow her defense.

by Anonymousreply 104September 12, 2023 8:20 PM

I find it non-sensical that at tournaments there has to be someone supervising the physio during a medical timeout to make sure they don't slip the player a PED yet there's no supervision of what player teams give the player while on court such as Djokovic's potions.

by Anonymousreply 105September 12, 2023 9:51 PM

[quote]Halep is claiming she switched supplements and one got contaminated. However… how does a supplement get contaminated with a kidney failure drug?

The anti-doping people accepted that it may be plausible that a supplement was tainted with trace amounts (I suppose that goes for anything) but basically said that she would have had to eat a crazy amount of the supplement to get to the amount she tested positive for which wasn't convincing.

She also had changes in her biological passport which three independent experts said "likely doping" was the explanation for.

by Anonymousreply 106September 12, 2023 10:28 PM

yeah, it's not a good look for Help

by Anonymousreply 107September 12, 2023 10:30 PM

Serena is coming for Simona's neck! The shade! The shade! That serena GOAT has been throwing on Twitter

by Anonymousreply 108September 12, 2023 11:45 PM

... which is highly ironic but Serena's retired now so she can do that. There can't be much love lost between them for Serena to do that though.

Bouchard is also throwing shade.


I was told not to tweet today 🫢"

I wonder whether Halep will manage to get a reduction on appeal though, like Sharapova did. She has already had a year suspended so it's possible she could come back in a year or two if so. But in her 30s so likely will not be competitive at the top.

by Anonymousreply 109September 12, 2023 11:51 PM

Give Serena her entitled Wimbledon 2019 title!

by Anonymousreply 110September 12, 2023 11:58 PM

PEPPA! Brava, what a match!

by Anonymousreply 111September 12, 2023 11:59 PM

Somehow I missed that Jenson Brooksby is currently suspended for missing three doping tests. Since July.

by Anonymousreply 112September 13, 2023 12:01 AM

Brooksby is a trash player. Doping didn't help him

by Anonymousreply 113September 13, 2023 12:03 AM

R106, thanks for your interpretation!

by Anonymousreply 114September 13, 2023 12:03 AM

Serving looks: See inside the exclusive hair salon for tennis players at the US Open

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by Anonymousreply 115September 13, 2023 12:12 AM

Is anyone Brooksby team?

by Anonymousreply 116September 13, 2023 12:12 AM

Where is Peppa? What did she do? I adore her!

by Anonymousreply 117September 13, 2023 12:35 AM

Ostapenko bet Alexandrava today.

by Anonymousreply 118September 13, 2023 1:14 AM

Bouchard is a joke. Does anyone really care what she has to say?

by Anonymousreply 119September 13, 2023 1:45 AM

R117 she played Alexandrova at the San Diego Open today

by Anonymousreply 120September 13, 2023 2:07 AM

Medwed's daughter looks like a female mini-me version of him.

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by Anonymousreply 121September 13, 2023 3:54 AM

"US Open Finals viewership averages:

Coco Gauff vs Aryna Sabalenka: 3.422 million

Novak Djokovic vs Daniil Medvedev: 2.321 million"

For comparison the men's final was 2.15 million last year. But nothing compares to Serena's final match which was 6.9 million...

by Anonymousreply 122September 13, 2023 5:02 AM

I'm a little confused about the whole Halep doping offense and the subsequent tweets by both Serena and even Bouchard. Haven't the drug tests always been random and constant? If Halep was banned as a result of a late 2022 or early 2023, why would that negate her previous results, particularly that 6-2, 6-2 Serena Wimbledon thrashing?

I'd appreciate insights if anyone knows.

by Anonymousreply 123September 13, 2023 11:44 AM

I think she admitted taking the supplement for years, without knowing it. The entire drug testing system is riddled with inconsistencies. We can't rewrite history.

Think about it. You can't use cannabis but you can take Ritalin and Adderall, stimulants, the very definition of performance enhancing drugs.

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by Anonymousreply 124September 13, 2023 12:15 PM

R123, they are "constant" only in theory. A player can miss two tests in a row without the public knowing about it and without earning any kind of sanction. Brooksby's problem was that he had missed three tests.

by Anonymousreply 125September 13, 2023 12:55 PM

Kokkinakis Vs Draper in the Davis Cup is a real hunk o' spunk fest to coin a charming Aussie expression.

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by Anonymousreply 126September 13, 2023 1:02 PM

Considering Serena once hid to avoid having to take a test, she might want to bow out of this situation.

by Anonymousreply 127September 13, 2023 2:30 PM

Court is a revolting woman and yes in her prime the best women (BJK, Maria Bueno) did not play the Australian and French slams regularly. Court racked up Australian titles. That said, awful as she is, she was a superb powerful attacking player- enormous power and court coverage built around an attacking game. She may not be the best ever but she is certainly one of them. I saw her play in the early 70’s.

by Anonymousreply 128September 13, 2023 2:44 PM

Can barely contain myself at the thought that Serena GOAT can possibly rightfully claim her 24 GS titles

by Anonymousreply 129September 13, 2023 3:13 PM

Bottle-Blond Bombshell, Borna Gojo, down Big Foe in straight sets to level up the Davis cup tie.

by Anonymousreply 130September 13, 2023 4:56 PM

Meanwhile the crowd is singing along at the top of their lungs to YMCA as Diallo leads Musetti 7-5, 5-3.

by Anonymousreply 131September 13, 2023 5:29 PM

r129, Serena has 23 GS, but who's counting?

by Anonymousreply 132September 13, 2023 6:12 PM

r128, Charlie- Cheers! Yes, she was a great champion, no doubt. But, in the olden days of no instant replay, no drug policy, and little tv/video, she benefited from favorable calls and scheduling from officials and sponsors who wanted to see her in the final, just like EVERY professional tennis event in the world; then and now. It's easy to see how the champion gets every close call, all the way up to Federer. If you were an Aussie linesperson, would you want to make a call against her and have to explain it the rest of your life?

The 2022 USO earned 472 million dollars, more than the annual GDP of at least 4 countries. Having Rolex and Swiss Bank as your sponsors is a lot more helpful than being sponsored by your family's pizza parlor.

Federer on Hawkeye 2002- Not everybody loved the idea, of course. Roger Federer believed the money being spent on correcting "just a few points"—roughly $50,000 per court at the time—could have been better used elsewhere. "I am against the whole idea of replays," the Swiss phenom, then 24, declared. True to his word, Federer would maintain a complicated, begrudging relationship with line-officiating technology for years afterward.

Of course

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by Anonymousreply 133September 13, 2023 6:53 PM

Noah Rubin had something to say related to the Halep suspension.

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by Anonymousreply 134September 13, 2023 8:35 PM

[quote] PED’s in tennis

What does the PED possess?

by Anonymousreply 135September 13, 2023 9:58 PM

Did we really need a photo of that homophobic old sow in the OP?

by Anonymousreply 136September 13, 2023 10:10 PM

At the San Diego Open:

Ons lost

Ostapenko lost to Collins

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by Anonymousreply 138September 14, 2023 1:12 AM

Ova, enka, ina

by Anonymousreply 139September 14, 2023 1:14 AM

FWIW: while playing singles, Court also won 19 grand slams in women's doubles and 21 grand slams in mixed doubles. Serena Williams won 14 slams in women’s doubles, two slams in mixed doubles and four Olympic gold medals.

Novak has 0 slams in men’s doubles, 0 slams in mixed and 0 gold medals.

by Anonymousreply 140September 14, 2023 1:41 AM

See - still GOAT.

by Anonymousreply 141September 14, 2023 1:43 AM

That’s not my *exact* point, but thanks for your support.

by Anonymousreply 142September 14, 2023 1:44 AM

Awkward moment with Joy threw in "isn't he an anti-vaxxer?" while McConaughey was fawning over Djokovic.

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by Anonymousreply 143September 14, 2023 2:31 AM

His brand has become just as canned, bland, synthetic and predictable as Djokovic's Jekyll moments.

by Anonymousreply 144September 14, 2023 7:50 AM

R60, I don't ever include doubles accomplishments when talking about the best ever singles players.

BJK is at the very top of tier two for me. With Seles, Venus, Henin, and Goolagong below her.

by Anonymousreply 145September 14, 2023 8:08 AM

That’s a double fault on your part—because your out of step by completing ignoring doubles.

by Anonymousreply 146September 14, 2023 9:57 AM

you are

by Anonymousreply 147September 14, 2023 9:57 AM

If players like Fed/Djok/Nadal don't even seriously play doubles it kind of makes sense to discount that. But I really, really hate the endless GOAT debates because it's silly. Players have different eras/competition/objectives so I just prefer to focus on who's playing now. You know, there may be someone else in the future who breaks the record even. It's a bit boring.

by Anonymousreply 148September 14, 2023 10:02 AM

Big Jack

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by Anonymousreply 149September 14, 2023 11:25 AM

From the full judgment in the Halep case (a mammoth 126 pages at the link): "Dr Eichner's conclusion was that the Player would have needed to ingest 5,000 times the recommended 10g serving size of MCT in order to produce the estimated concentrations of Roxadustat in her 29 August Sample. He did not consider that plausible or in line with what the Player says she ingested."

Halep "forgot" to declare the supplement and it's an obscure keto MCT supplement, only one batch of which was produced of in China, meaning they couldn't get hold of information about the manufacturing process or samples. Halep directly blames Mouratoglou and someone called Ms Gohier who works at his Academy for suggesting the supplement and saying that it was safe to use.

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by Anonymousreply 150September 14, 2023 5:35 PM

That's fucked up. Luckily, she has her millions to soften the blow. It's easy to see how this could happen by accident.

When she first failed the test Mouratoglou issued a strong support statement. It probably was his fault.

--from MTF--

"Halep claims that the presence of roxadustat (n.r. - banned substance) in her body was caused by contamination with a collagen supplement she used in late August 2022, which she says could not have been reasonably suspected by her or anyone from her team," ITIA's motivation reads.

On August 17, Simona Halep withdrew from the tournament in Cincinnati with a right thigh injury, but she still had high hopes for the US Open.

At that point, her physical therapist, Candice Gohier, recommended that she add a collagen supplement to her diet, since she wasn't taking one. Based on a recommendation from Frederic Lefebvre (who was the director of the physical training department at Mouratoglou Academy) to Candice Gohier, she recommended Simona 3 products from one manufacturer. Halep had not heard of those supplements before. She asked if Gohier had checked them and was told yes.

Halep and Gohier also checked the container together and noticed that there was no banned substance on the ingredients list. Halep also checked with coach Mouratoglou, who told her that all 3 products were safe to use since no banned substances were listed on the label and they did not appear to be risky. Halep was aware of the possibility of supplements being contaminated and made sure the products were vetted and recommended by experts in the field.

All 3 supplements were ordered by Gohier on August 16, 2022 and shipped directly by the distributor to Gohier in New York. The player then started using the 3 supplements in mid-August 2022," ITIA's reasoning reads.

The document talks about the supplements in question, but has censored the company that markets them. There are 3 products: an electrolyte drink (Magnesium, Calcium, Sodium), a recovery supplement and Keto MCT, a medium chain fatty acid supplement (which is absorbed directly into the bloodstream) and marine collagen powder .

by Anonymousreply 151September 14, 2023 5:47 PM

Blah blah excuses, excuses

by Anonymousreply 152September 14, 2023 5:49 PM

[quote] It's easy to see how this could happen by accident.

How? It simply does not make sense. Again: "Dr Eichner's conclusion was that the Player would have needed to ingest 5,000 times the recommended 10g serving size of MCT in order to produce the estimated concentrations of Roxadustat in her 29 August Sample."

by Anonymousreply 153September 14, 2023 5:55 PM

Anyone doing business with Mouratoglou is slimed by association.

by Anonymousreply 154September 14, 2023 6:04 PM

It explains why he's been acting fairly panicky about this, issuing statements. I'd bet that Halep has been furious with him behind the scenes. He is likely only not being exposed because she'd then have to admit that she was lying too.

by Anonymousreply 155September 14, 2023 6:05 PM

[quote] Anyone doing business with Mouratoglou is slimed by association.

Perhaps the Brat/Legz has banned substances on the makeup he wears on court in order to absorb them cutaneously.

by Anonymousreply 156September 14, 2023 6:11 PM

Wasn't Serena coached by Mouratoglou for years?

by Anonymousreply 157September 14, 2023 7:51 PM


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by Anonymousreply 158September 14, 2023 7:56 PM

[quote]Wasn't Serena coached by Mouratoglou for years?

Yes, for ten years until 2022 which is when he dropped her (because she wouldn't commit to playing RG). The same year Halep dropped her entire team and moved to Mouratoglou which was quite shocking at the time.

by Anonymousreply 159September 14, 2023 7:58 PM

R158, it was thought that Mouratoglou got into a relationship with Serena as a way of controlling her. He’s never been highly thought of in the tennis world, as far as I can tell. Every time a new player hired him people would joke that he was just a conduit for drugs.

by Anonymousreply 160September 14, 2023 8:32 PM


As someone who has endured hundreds of lab tests for the past 40 years, I assure you that lab errors are common. Also, urinalyis testing is fraught with errors.

I mean, IDK and IDC but anything involving only one sample is suspect. I'm just sayin'

PS- Did you know that steriods ARE allowed, to a certain extent, if you get an exemption.

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by Anonymousreply 161September 14, 2023 8:36 PM

Yeah. This book is old but it talked a lot about how coaches and trainers try to get into personal relationships with players or to get players attached to them so that their job is secure. I've no doubt that still goes on, especially in the women's tour.

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by Anonymousreply 162September 14, 2023 8:37 PM

R161 Yes, Serena in particular had a long list of TUEs - predisnone especially. TUEs are mostly bullshit conditions - but they're legal.

by Anonymousreply 163September 14, 2023 8:39 PM

I'd love to see Justin Henin/Carlos Rodriguez porn, including 3 way with the husband.

by Anonymousreply 164September 14, 2023 8:40 PM

[quote] the husband.

That husband. My jaw would drop every time I saw him. He pinged my gaydar like crazy. She never said why they suddenly divorced but I think I could guess.

by Anonymousreply 165September 14, 2023 8:42 PM

Lots of things can mess up a drug test.

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by Anonymousreply 166September 14, 2023 8:43 PM

As a reminder, this was Henin's husband.

Her current man vibes more masculine like Rodriguez.

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by Anonymousreply 167September 14, 2023 8:45 PM

I could be wrong but they they had A and B samples so they could confirm results and rule out lab error.

by Anonymousreply 168September 14, 2023 8:53 PM

Yes, that is exactly why they have A and B samples. Dear god.

by Anonymousreply 169September 14, 2023 8:55 PM

Dear God,

Other realities exist

A critical concept is that not all drugs within a class have similar chemical structures and therefore may or may not react with the antibody included in the assay.4 Depending on the manufacturer there may be variable cross reactivity to various substances (discussed in further detail below). The manufacturer often does preliminary testing and reports some agents in their package insert known to cross-react with each class. This list should not be considered exhaustive as many unlisted substances cross react. The sensitivity and specificity of the various components of the immunoassays also can vary between manufactures as well. Thus, health care providers should be aware of the specifications of the immunoassay that is used by their laboratory.

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by Anonymousreply 170September 14, 2023 8:59 PM

The Halep PR has entered the thread.

by Anonymousreply 171September 14, 2023 9:01 PM

Justine's hair @ R167 is tragic. I mean, even for a dyke, it's tragic.

by Anonymousreply 172September 14, 2023 9:03 PM

I don't think she's a dyke. I think she wanted to get married and got conned. She seemed genuinely upset by the divorce because she withdrew from several tournaments including the AO. Then she went on to marry another man (who pings as straight) and have kids with him.

by Anonymousreply 173September 14, 2023 9:06 PM

R169, what is your snooty “dear god” about?

by Anonymousreply 174September 14, 2023 9:24 PM

I didn't know she had kids, R173. I'm happy to accept that she's straight.

My point remains: that hair is tragic, even for a dyke.

by Anonymousreply 175September 14, 2023 9:26 PM

[quote]what is your snooty “dear god” about?

That poster is full of shit. There is an A and a B sample to rule out lab error. Is that not clear?

by Anonymousreply 176September 14, 2023 9:27 PM

[quote]that hair is tragic, even for a dyke.

I thought you were implying that she was one. My bad if not but honestly, most dykes I know wouldn't even try to dye/style their hair. Classic dyke hair is something like a short cut to me.

by Anonymousreply 177September 14, 2023 9:30 PM

[quote] who pings as straight

Is pinging straight even a thing? I thought pinging was specifically related to being gay.

by Anonymousreply 178September 14, 2023 9:31 PM

R178 Pinging is about guessing someone's sexuality so it makes sense to me.

by Anonymousreply 179September 14, 2023 9:33 PM

No worries, R177.

Here's some tragic , longer dyke hair.

Anyway, enough about bad hair. The gay in me compelled me to bring it up.

Back to tennis.

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by Anonymousreply 180September 14, 2023 9:35 PM

Of course, Margaret Court's hair @ OP is pretty tragic, too. Even for a dyke.

I'll stop now, promise.

by Anonymousreply 181September 14, 2023 9:36 PM

Imagine the hellish frustration of having millions of dollars and multiple homes and not being able to eat, drink, smoke and fuck who ever you want?

My TOP 5, because 10 would be too whorish, choises for hottest player are:

1. F. Cerundulu- because he's up an coming, 2 of my favorite things

2. David Ferrer, he's retired but I can't stop thinking about making him grunt.

3. Borna Coric because, DAMN!, no explanation necessary

4. Tiafoe, though I'm afraid he would send me to the ER

5. Roberto Agut Bautista- he seems so sweet and I'd love to meet his horses and I think he's a friend of Ferrer's

How about you?

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by Anonymousreply 183September 14, 2023 10:02 PM

[quote]Imagine the hellish frustration of having millions of dollars and multiple homes and not being able to eat, drink, smoke and fuck who ever you want?

What are you talking about? They can fuck anyone they want. As for the rest, they can eat, drink or smoke anything legal. Cigarettes, alcohol, fast food.

Kyrgios tweeted this:


Ehhhh not really lol, I run on bananas and coke cola in 5 set battles. And my record in them speaks for itself. Maybe players should just stop taking shady sh*t 😂 look yourself in the mirror at the end of the day and say yep I did it right. Not hard."

What's with players being deprived if they can't consume 'shady shit'?

by Anonymousreply 184September 14, 2023 10:05 PM

R182, I don't know all of them, and mostly am familiar with higher ranked players - my hot list:

1 Rublev, 2 Fritz, 3 Zverev, 4 Tsitsipas, 5 Musetti

by Anonymousreply 185September 14, 2023 10:07 PM



1. Jack Draper 2. Pedro Cachin 3. Arthur Fils 4. Francisco Cerundolo 5. Tallon Griekspoor

All Time:

1. Feli Lopez 2. Stefan Edberg 3. Jan Michael Gambill 4. Carlos Moya 5. Tommy Haas

by Anonymousreply 186September 14, 2023 10:19 PM

R185, A. Zverev or M. Zverev?

by Anonymousreply 187September 14, 2023 10:24 PM

So choise, R182.

by Anonymousreply 188September 14, 2023 10:25 PM

Alexander Zverev - never heard of an M. Zverev.

by Anonymousreply 189September 14, 2023 10:28 PM

Sure, Nick K, you're the paragon of "doing it right".

by Anonymousreply 190September 14, 2023 10:30 PM

My top 5 in no particular order: FAA, Arthur Fils, Juan Pablo Varillas, Laslo Djere, Skander Mansouri. Honorable mention: Monfils, Mackie, Popyrin, Antoine Hoang, Pablo Carreno Busta

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by Anonymousreply 191September 14, 2023 10:46 PM

[quote] Alexander Zverev - never heard of an M. Zverev.

Mischa Zverev is Alexander’s brother, a former pro player himself and relatively high ranked in his day.

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by Anonymousreply 192September 14, 2023 10:48 PM

M. Zverev is Mr. Congeniality to A. Zverev's Mr. Hyde.

by Anonymousreply 193September 14, 2023 10:52 PM

Carlos and I have been having a relationship throughout the 2023 season.

by Anonymousreply 194September 14, 2023 11:30 PM

You laugh but I know a Federer fan who almost seems to believe they are or will be together.

by Anonymousreply 195September 14, 2023 11:32 PM


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by Anonymousreply 196September 14, 2023 11:52 PM

Gauff was also with Mouratoglou for awhile. NOT that I'm implying anything...

by Anonymousreply 197September 15, 2023 2:24 AM

Then shut up—

by Anonymousreply 198September 15, 2023 2:32 AM

Please—he was an informal adviser for a few months in early-mid ‘23.

Like dozens of promising jrs over the last 20 years…years ago she trained on clay at his academy near Cannes / Nice.

by Anonymousreply 199September 15, 2023 2:38 AM

R182 has horrible taste.

by Anonymousreply 200September 15, 2023 2:51 AM

Goodness. Someone is certainly sensitive about the sainted CoCo. That's English for learn to take a joke you fucking prig.

by Anonymousreply 201September 15, 2023 2:55 AM

Is Ben ok? He normally tweets most days but hasn't tweeted in two weeks.

by Anonymousreply 202September 15, 2023 4:06 AM

I presume you mean Rothenberg, but this Ben looks more than ok.

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by Anonymousreply 203September 15, 2023 4:12 AM

My top 2

1. Papa TsiTsi Fly

2. Goran Ivanisevic (Novak's coach)

That's it.

I like masculine daddies. No man under 50 does a thing for me.

by Anonymousreply 204September 15, 2023 4:53 AM

Ivanisevic surprises me - I think he's a bit gross now.

by Anonymousreply 205September 15, 2023 4:54 AM

And then.

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by Anonymousreply 206September 15, 2023 5:03 AM

Serena was the most tested athlete in the history of sports.

They came to her home in the middle of the night, like burglars, fucking goons!

by Anonymousreply 207September 15, 2023 5:07 AM

R201 the joke is you…

….there was no humor to take in. Thanks for playing

by Anonymousreply 208September 15, 2023 5:08 AM

Had they found anything on serena , these lab testers would be singing it from the rooftops because they would have enjoyed nothing more than bringing down a black star athlete

by Anonymousreply 209September 15, 2023 5:08 AM

Simona was thirsty for wins and doped up to achieve it. She should look in the.mirror if she wants someone to blame amd stop blaming others

by Anonymousreply 210September 15, 2023 5:09 AM

[quote]Had they found anything on serena , these lab testers would be singing it from the rooftops because they would have enjoyed nothing more than bringing down a black star athlete

I don't think they would have, especially considering that the WTA and ATP were in charge of antidoping, and then the ITF (now it's been moved to the ITIA). She was a huge star and routinely got big ratings. It would have been bad for tennis. That's why so many tennis 'journalists' and former players are suspiciously a bit quiet about this or are sympathetic, bigging up the defenses. They know that Halep is the tip of a very big iceberg and don't want what happened to cycling to happen to tennis.

by Anonymousreply 211September 15, 2023 5:13 AM

Fritz is hot to DLers because he's horny.

by Anonymousreply 212September 15, 2023 5:19 AM

R211 is talking of its ass.

by Anonymousreply 213September 15, 2023 5:20 AM

The white Tennis world would NEVER EVER protect Serena. They were/ still are too pissed that Serena, a BLACK WOMAN became the greatest living Tennis player in history.

Even this thread / DLers are proving my point by slinging mud at Sernea when Simona Halep is the one who doped up.

by Anonymousreply 214September 15, 2023 5:23 AM

Tennis is a business and the bottom line is money. Did Serena bring in the crowds, sponsors and ratings? Yes, she did. Doesn't matter if you're black at that point - if you're a star and making money, that's good for their bottom line. Coco Gauff too.

by Anonymousreply 215September 15, 2023 5:25 AM

See r225 is proving my point. Slinging mud at Serena and poor little Coco Puffs when SIMONA HALEP IS the one doped up

by Anonymousreply 216September 15, 2023 5:27 AM

Meant R215 not R225

by Anonymousreply 217September 15, 2023 5:28 AM

R217 That's not what I was saying at all - re-read what I was saying.

by Anonymousreply 218September 15, 2023 5:30 AM

Serena wa shooed by her home crowd. Venus and Serrna were constantly belittled by players, umpires, crowds, anchors, spectators. It was hell for them.

by Anonymousreply 219September 15, 2023 5:31 AM

Venus and Serena had different coaches

by Anonymousreply 220September 15, 2023 5:31 AM

Venus had the class. Serena was an ass.

by Anonymousreply 221September 15, 2023 5:45 AM

I don't know why but I've never really been into the Davis Cup. Supposedly the crowds are dire there and top players have been swerving it too.

by Anonymousreply 222September 15, 2023 5:46 AM

Do you guys actually watch women's tennis? Serena is, and was, LAUDED by everyone, everywhere. As she should! She's the GOAT.

This narrative that Big Bad Tennis Ogres had it out for her because she's black is ridiculous. She's done more to make tennis grow than anyone and the Big Bad Tennis Ogres know this.

Sure, some idiot racist fans were horrible to her and Venus a thousand years ago at Indian Wells. Which sucked and was an extreme embarrassment. And advertising took longer to come around to her, but that's in large part because she's not a beauty. But by 2010 or so? She was in every other commercial.

by Anonymousreply 223September 15, 2023 7:58 AM

R219, Venus is one of the most beloved tennis players all over the world. She's like Rafa.

Serena is more like Novak. Not everyone loves her and for good reason: She's had some bad moments on the court. She earned some of those boos. Again, like Novak.

by Anonymousreply 224September 15, 2023 8:59 AM


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by Anonymousreply 226September 15, 2023 1:11 PM

Venus' first endorsement deal with Reebok was the biggest ever (at the time) for a female tennis player

by Anonymousreply 227September 15, 2023 1:14 PM

R223 stealth racist post

by Anonymousreply 228September 15, 2023 1:19 PM

Will druggie.Simona Halep every return to competition?

by Anonymousreply 229September 15, 2023 1:20 PM

Or return to every competition. Or never has she ever. Whatever.

by Anonymousreply 230September 15, 2023 1:32 PM

By the time Halep's drug ban expires she will be too old to return in top form, the current top girls a la Iga and Sabalenka will be on their 5th or perhaps more, Grand Slam titles, if they remainn healthy...

by Anonymousreply 231September 15, 2023 1:49 PM

This clip has it all; arrogant Novaxx, Simpleton Nadal, Idiot Fouler and Know it all Gilbert. Wait for the end "Of course the women around here want to know if he has a girlfriend, he does, but he keeps it on the down low"

This was the year What'sHerCara moved from "friend" or "friend of the family" or "his sister's friend" to girlfriend. The announcers had the green light to say girlfriend.

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by Anonymousreply 232September 15, 2023 3:20 PM

Nadal had the last laugh at RG

by Anonymousreply 233September 15, 2023 5:17 PM

What year was that. I want to see that match. BG alluding to Novak using smelling salts - was he using these dmellibg salts so far back then ?

by Anonymousreply 234September 15, 2023 5:19 PM

Ruuuuuuuuuune loses to Monteiro in the Davis Cup.

The Brat is DONE!

by Anonymousreply 235September 15, 2023 5:19 PM

R234 it was 2006 when Novak was 19.

by Anonymousreply 236September 15, 2023 5:29 PM

r234, Are you serious? It was sarcasm, as if to say, "Novak, are you unconscious? Do we need smelling salts to wake you up because what you say happened did not happen?"

by Anonymousreply 237September 15, 2023 5:30 PM

I can't find a handy place to see the Davis Cup scores. Google gives me a great place when I type in a player's name but not for Davis Cup.

by Anonymousreply 238September 15, 2023 5:31 PM

Who cares about Davis Cup?

by Anonymousreply 239September 15, 2023 5:35 PM

R238, you can find them here. Eurosport also has them.

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by Anonymousreply 240September 15, 2023 5:36 PM

For years Davis Cup has been this thing they’ve told us is really important but doesn’t feel like it.

by Anonymousreply 241September 15, 2023 5:37 PM

Thank you, R240!

Djokovic playing in Davis Cup - wow! He just beat Davidovich-Fokina, and Misery Murray beat some Swiss guy (Riedi). Stan over Norrie, Ruusovuori over Gojo - not that I understand what's going on with the "sets" which don't mean what they usually do ??

by Anonymousreply 242September 15, 2023 5:46 PM

Oh wait - they do mean what they usually do lol. I'm just not sure to their formatting.

by Anonymousreply 243September 15, 2023 5:48 PM

The RuneLoons in deep denial. If you bother to play the Davis Cup you really don't want to lose - your country's rep is on the line..

Bratty hasn't won a match since Wimby - 4 losses on the bounce: all to players outside the Top 40.

No access to MoTo's Magic Juice is taking a toll?

by Anonymousreply 244September 15, 2023 5:48 PM

R237 you fucking imbecile, do you even fucking watch tennis?! Because if you did you would notice Novaxx sniffing some sort of magic sniffer bullshit almost every match. Fuck off

by Anonymousreply 245September 15, 2023 6:07 PM

^ I think It's time for your medication

by Anonymousreply 246September 15, 2023 6:35 PM

r245, reality is your friend. It was a metafor. A direct quote from Gilbert " Are you kidding me? When the trainer came out, buddy, do you need some smelling salts? You want to incite Rafa? I think the next time he plays..."

Are you so delusional that you think that he's huffing banned substances during matches on live tv? Grow up and calm the fuck down, it's tennis for fuck's sake.

by Anonymousreply 247September 15, 2023 6:44 PM

Speaking of tennis corruption...

A Washington Post investigation of a vast match-fixing ring, and how the changing nature of gambling has corrupted tennis, is based on dozens of interviews with players, coaches, investigators, tennis officials and match fixers. The Post obtained tens of thousands of the central match fixer’s text messages, hundreds of pages of internal European law-enforcement documents, and the interrogation transcripts of players.

The maestro: The man who built the biggest match-fixing ring in tennis.

Read part two:

The unraveling: How a small-town police officer took down the largest match-fixing ring in tennis

Share this article Share 1. Gambling on tennis has exploded in recent years, increasing to roughly $50 billion annually. About a quarter of that sum is wagered on matches within the sport’s lowest tier, many of them so obscure that they aren’t televised and offer meager prize money, often just over $2,000 for a tournament’s winner. Match fixers have found opportunity at the sport’s lowest level to bribe players who struggle to earn a sustainable income.

2. With 47,000 matches a year in 65 countries, the International Tennis Federation proved particularly vulnerable to match-fixing. Because of the emergence of “spot betting,” in which gamblers can bet on a point or a game, rather than a contest’s outcome, players are now able to work with match fixers to throw a component of some of the least-watched matches, while still defeating their opponent.

Sargsyan inside Belgium's Haren Prison on Aug. 24. (Sebastien Van Malleghem for The Washington Post) 3. The ring, based in Belgium, built a roster of more than 180 professional players from more than 30 countries who would fix matches, or parts of matches, investigators said. A lawyer representing professional tennis said it was the biggest in the history of tennis. The man behind the ring, Grigor Sargsyan, traveled around Europe to keep his roster happy. He paid the players with envelopes full of cash at Paris train stations; he took them out to fancy dinners; he bought an engagement ring so one player could give it to his girlfriend.


4. Even after Sargsyan’s arrest and conviction, professional tennis continues to receive about 100 alerts of irregular betting each year, an indication of fixed matches. That’s more than in any other sport. The ITF has extended its contract with Sportradar, a Swiss company that provides real-time data on obscure tennis matches to gamblers around the world, even after a 2018 internal review cautioned the tour against the impact of that contract on match-fixing syndicates.

5. Law enforcement agencies around the world have grown increasingly concerned about the link between sports gambling and organized crime. The FBI and Interpol have each formed units to combat match-fixing. The United Nations has gotten involved, calling organized crime “a major and growing threat to sport.” On the tennis tour, the sport has hired a team of investigators who interrogate players and seize their phones when they suspect that athletes are throwing matches. It was that team of investigators — and one particularly dogged Belgian police officer — that eventually took down Sargsyan’s ring.

by Anonymousreply 248September 15, 2023 7:16 PM

Daddy Fritz on the runway at Hermes fashion show.

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by Anonymousreply 249September 16, 2023 3:07 PM

Okay, participating in a fashion show is a lark. I get it.

But first maybe prove you’re a legitimate top ten player. His performance at the majors has been a let down.

by Anonymousreply 250September 16, 2023 3:22 PM

Daddy looks hot there

by Anonymousreply 251September 17, 2023 4:13 AM

Taylor fritz is the most overrated player in ATP tour

by Anonymousreply 252September 17, 2023 12:01 PM

All the top girls have dropped our of the Guadalajara Open. Quite surprising since it is a 1000 event. The likes of Iga, Pegula, Rybakina, Sabalenka, Muchova, Coco etc have all dropped our . What gives...

by Anonymousreply 253September 17, 2023 12:02 PM

Exhaustion, worries of dysentary and knowing that they have to go to China. Ugg.

by Anonymousreply 254September 17, 2023 12:19 PM

From Vox, Excellent explainer about salaries featuring adorable Hubie.

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by Anonymousreply 255September 17, 2023 12:36 PM

Fritz’s Indian Wells trophy is looking like an anomaly.

Hell, Norrie has had much more Grand Slam success and I don’t think of him as a serious contender for any big title.

by Anonymousreply 256September 17, 2023 3:50 PM

Perhaps Taylor Fritz is following the Casper Ruud career model.

by Anonymousreply 257September 17, 2023 3:53 PM

There's an article about Alcarez in the Wall Street Journal (with, of course, lots of photos).

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by Anonymousreply 258September 17, 2023 5:22 PM

Federico Coria displays his credentials to join The ATP Big Penis Caucus

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by Anonymousreply 259September 17, 2023 5:37 PM

R257, only Ruud has advanced much further in majors.

by Anonymousreply 260September 17, 2023 6:03 PM

Fat Sock and his trashy, Instaho wife are having a Sockling.

by Anonymousreply 261September 17, 2023 8:18 PM

Daddy looks HAF @ R249

by Anonymousreply 262September 17, 2023 9:44 PM

Pour on your readers, please.

by Anonymousreply 263September 17, 2023 9:49 PM

Or put them on—but get some clarity.

by Anonymousreply 264September 17, 2023 10:10 PM

The poster who wrote “pour” was thinking of a cocktail. Hope you’re not trying to stay sober.

by Anonymousreply 265September 17, 2023 10:17 PM

The poster who mistyped pour corrected the error, well before your lame joke.

by Anonymousreply 266September 17, 2023 10:45 PM

The no-fun-zone has entered the chat at R266.

by Anonymousreply 267September 17, 2023 10:47 PM

Fun requires humor—you displayed none.

by Anonymousreply 268September 17, 2023 10:49 PM

Do they wheel you out at parties to chase the guests home? Hope your day gets better, or you encounter better lighting.

by Anonymousreply 269September 17, 2023 11:21 PM

Why do you keep making lame replies. Give it up.

by Anonymousreply 270September 17, 2023 11:31 PM

Girls, girls, you're both Haleps!

by Anonymousreply 271September 17, 2023 11:32 PM

To be fair he's American. They have to build him up.

by Anonymousreply 272September 18, 2023 1:53 AM

^Fritz I mean. It's not his fault

by Anonymousreply 273September 18, 2023 1:54 AM

Meanwhile, Novaxx withdraws from Shanghai.

by Anonymousreply 274September 18, 2023 1:59 AM

One less MAGA in tennis! The Lesser Coco (Vandeweghe) has just retired!

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by Anonymousreply 275September 18, 2023 6:15 AM

Van De Weghe and Danielle Collins got to the doubles final in San Diego but lost to the Czech doubles supremo team of Krejcikova and Siniakova. Not that bad of an end, really, even if it was a loss.

Krejcikova also won the singles in San Diego, beating Sonya Kenina.

by Anonymousreply 276September 18, 2023 10:05 AM

Hard to understand what happened with Coco V’s career. Injuries?

Yes, I know her game is rather one-dimensional but she made it to the semis of the US Open… then nada.

by Anonymousreply 277September 18, 2023 1:58 PM

Shirtless Carlitos practicing.

Is this where we talk about Hopman cup?

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by Anonymousreply 278September 18, 2023 2:03 PM

R278 Carlitos should single-handedly make Nude Tennis a thing.

by Anonymousreply 279September 18, 2023 2:21 PM

El Peque team or G-Unit team?

by Anonymousreply 280September 18, 2023 2:42 PM

Guido Pella retired.

I always thought he was HAWT.

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by Anonymousreply 283September 18, 2023 10:48 PM

Will he now go work at his family’s window company?

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by Anonymousreply 284September 18, 2023 10:54 PM

Huge fan of Barbora 's game. Glad she is back to winning form

by Anonymousreply 285September 19, 2023 3:55 AM

Does she have an underground mall?

by Anonymousreply 286September 19, 2023 3:58 AM

Barbora made a comment (earlier this year?) that she thought she was among the current Big Four with Swiatek, Sabalenka and Rybakina.

Unfortunately (I like her), she’s far from that.

by Anonymousreply 287September 19, 2023 9:55 AM

It must be said about Halep, she’s been struggling to compete with big hitters for a while.

Hard to see her contending against the likes of Sabalenka and Rybakina.

Thus the reason I buy into the idea that she doped: her main weapon is endurance. She’s a backboard against bigger hitters (most of the top players), so needs to be equipped to wear down her opponents until they make errors. So the crime seems to make sense game-wise, even if it doesn’t align with her character as we knew it.

by Anonymousreply 288September 19, 2023 10:01 AM

[quote] among the current Big Four

There only ever has been one Big Four.

by Anonymousreply 289September 19, 2023 1:00 PM

Yeah, I would not consider there to be anything like a Big 2, Big 3 or Big 4 in the WTA at the moment. Swiatek has 4 slam titles but pretty much everyone else only has one.

by Anonymousreply 290September 19, 2023 1:03 PM

I feel like all the other girls had/ have ( now more than ever) the potential to beat Iga. Silly to say but it almost seem like they were intimidated by Iga and allowed her to outplay them. They couldn't figure out her game. Only Ry akina and Sbalenka seem to have figured her out. Krejicova almost always outplayed her. Now as soon as Iga started losing to the likes of Pegula, svitolina, near loss to Bencic at Wimbledo and Muchova at French, and Coco.. the girls will not fear her game next season.

I suspect iga will slide way way down in the ranking next year. Probably top 10 but most likely around the bottom half

by Anonymousreply 291September 19, 2023 5:14 PM

Poor dear Iga. She seems mentally overwhelmed in her pressers. She's only 22.

And what the hell happened to Caroline Garcia? When she won the WTA final, or whatever it was, I thought she was ready to take the lead. Then, flop city. She's 29 though - I don't know what happened earlier in her career (new to following the sport -- Serena and the 3 male goats annoyed me so I tuned out)

by Anonymousreply 292September 19, 2023 5:46 PM

For those interested, this week’s Tennis Podcast starts with a good discussion of the Halep case, informed by discussions with experts.

by Anonymousreply 293September 19, 2023 7:03 PM

I don’t agree with the expected Iga slide.

She has a great game. Doesn’t have the power of Sabalenka or Rybakina, so if they are on and not making too many errors (big if), they will always be a tough out, but she has a host of other tools.

by Anonymousreply 294September 19, 2023 7:06 PM

R292, Garcia is closest being out of Top Ten. She won a handful of tournaments last year,has performed poorly this year. Right now she is losing to a noname Russian chick at the Mexico Open(Abierto de Guadalajara)

by Anonymousreply 295September 19, 2023 7:06 PM

Garcia is so frustrating! She has wicked talent and should be contending for majors.

Seems to be between the ears.

by Anonymousreply 296September 19, 2023 7:18 PM

more eye candy pls

by Anonymousreply 297September 19, 2023 11:01 PM

Minister of Happiness has found an easy opponent

by Anonymousreply 298September 20, 2023 12:15 AM

Who’s that R298?

by Anonymousreply 299September 20, 2023 12:40 AM

It’s doubles hunter.

by Anonymousreply 300September 20, 2023 1:27 AM

R299 Ons

by Anonymousreply 301September 20, 2023 2:23 AM

Thank you, R301.

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by Anonymousreply 304September 20, 2023 10:58 AM

Maga face

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by Anonymousreply 307September 20, 2023 7:11 PM

Jon Wertheim devoted his si.com column to the Halep ban.

There is this:

“…objectively, this is a lot of forensic detail and a rough set of facts for Halep and her defense team. Her lawyer, Howard Jacobs, is tops in class. But it will be a challenge to overcome this fact pattern…”

Her team claims that two members of the tribunal were prepared to exonerate her before they learned her identity, and they plan to argue this in their appeal. As he says, this strains common sense, noting that these experts are putting their reputations on the line.

I would add that she’s an extremely well liked player and I think the vast majority of tennis fans were shocked by her positive test, so it’s hard for me to swallow the notion of two experts who have it out for Simona. I would think the identity thing could only hurt is the subject was someone who had a physique or level of power that raised obvious questions.

by Anonymousreply 308September 20, 2023 10:47 PM

HawTTT @ R304

by Anonymousreply 309September 21, 2023 2:41 AM

Today marks the 50th anniversary of the Battle of the Sexes, the tennis match in which I played and defeated ex-tennis-champion-turned-hustler Bobby Riggs at the Houston Astrodome.

We played in front of a worldwide audience of 90 million, and the match became the most watched televised sports event of all time.

The victory was about so much more than tennis. It became one of the defining moments of the women's movement, one of the most impactful moments in sports, and one of the most important days of my life.

We have come a long way since 1973, and I have enjoyed watching today's women athletes live out the dreams of my generation.

But we are not done yet.

The work continues today, and each one of us can help.

Let's keep going for it.

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by Anonymousreply 310September 21, 2023 3:41 AM

Daria Saville feels that Maria Sharapova might be training to make a comeback

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by Anonymousreply 311September 21, 2023 3:58 AM

The original Coco, CoCo Vandeweghe, is on Tennis Channel commentating during the Ons/Trevisan match at the Guadalajara Open Akron.

by Anonymousreply 312September 21, 2023 4:26 AM

R311, I assume she's only exercising a lot to get her pre-baby body back. She's too bloody old at 35 to come back.

by Anonymousreply 313September 21, 2023 4:29 AM

Vandeweghe is a moron. She just said Ons got “lacksadaisical” [sic] in the second set.

Earlier she misattributed “Closing Time” to Oasis.

by Anonymousreply 314September 21, 2023 4:37 AM

Nobody needs Sharapova back.

by Anonymousreply 315September 21, 2023 5:01 AM

Coco Vandeweghe seems like she would fart a lot unapologietically and laugh about it. I also assume she can stink up a bathroom Gary Morton style

by Anonymousreply 316September 21, 2023 5:02 AM

Gotta love King (happy fiftieth anniversary, btw!) and Rennae Stubbs.

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by Anonymousreply 317September 21, 2023 8:32 AM

Coco and Bethany could probably clear a movie theater, R316.

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by Anonymousreply 318September 21, 2023 10:22 AM

Is this where we talk about Asian swing?

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by Anonymousreply 320September 21, 2023 3:03 PM


Είχα χτυπήσει αυτό!

by Anonymousreply 321September 21, 2023 5:04 PM

Wuby can't keep his hands off the boys at the 'Lover' Cup...

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by Anonymousreply 322September 21, 2023 7:16 PM

Wuby wants that Norwegian sausage!

by Anonymousreply 323September 21, 2023 9:18 PM

Mackie in Chengdu

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by Anonymousreply 324September 21, 2023 9:31 PM

Who is Otto Virtanen, and how have we missed him?

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by Anonymousreply 327September 21, 2023 9:41 PM

Azarenka always seems to have a Rockstar vibe about her in press conferences

by Anonymousreply 328September 21, 2023 11:43 PM

Yes, on court she often looks like she got high and went on romp in Steven Tyler's clothes closet

by Anonymousreply 329September 22, 2023 12:02 AM

^whoops, meant to say 'in her pressers'

by Anonymousreply 330September 22, 2023 12:03 AM

R322 Rublev looks drunk and Ruud looks uncomfortable with the whole situation.

by Anonymousreply 331September 22, 2023 1:03 AM

Why does martina Trevisan sound like she is getting fucked ?

by Anonymousreply 332September 22, 2023 1:53 AM

Is this where we talk about Laver Cup?

by Anonymousreply 333September 22, 2023 5:03 AM

Soon, R333, soon.

by Anonymousreply 334September 22, 2023 12:47 PM

R328 really? I always find her borderline nerdy and dorky.

by Anonymousreply 335September 22, 2023 4:16 PM

Now it’s the place where you talk about the Laver Cup. Happy Friday.

by Anonymousreply 336September 22, 2023 4:29 PM

Shelton stepped it up in the tiebreak. Good for him.

Fils is the real deal. I expect his ascent to be rapid.

by Anonymousreply 337September 22, 2023 9:14 PM

Thank you, Laver Cup apparel designer.

by Anonymousreply 338September 22, 2023 9:35 PM

Has Shapo appeared in white shorts?

by Anonymousreply 339September 22, 2023 9:37 PM

God, Laver Cup is so dumb.

by Anonymousreply 340September 22, 2023 9:54 PM

Vanity Piece. Come, kiss the ring.

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by Anonymousreply 342September 22, 2023 10:26 PM

Wow a navel! Thanks for that?

by Anonymousreply 343September 22, 2023 10:27 PM


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by Anonymousreply 344September 22, 2023 10:27 PM

Sweet Tommy

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by Anonymousreply 346September 22, 2023 10:32 PM

R345 swoon

by Anonymousreply 347September 22, 2023 10:33 PM

I wonder if Shelton's boobs out gesture at the end of his match with Fils was a yank at Djokovic.

by Anonymousreply 348September 22, 2023 10:53 PM

What is the link between novax and boobs

by Anonymousreply 349September 22, 2023 11:38 PM

The link's in the link, R349.

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by Anonymousreply 350September 22, 2023 11:43 PM

A shame Djokovic isn’t there but I don’t think he’s felt welcome in prior years

by Anonymousreply 351September 22, 2023 11:46 PM

He shouldn’t be.

by Anonymousreply 352September 23, 2023 12:01 AM

What uncomfortable viewing- that match between FAA and Monfils

by Anonymousreply 353September 23, 2023 3:16 AM

Why? ^

by Anonymousreply 354September 23, 2023 3:21 AM

FAA seems wound up so tight while Monfils is letting it all hang out. And I do mean all.

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by Anonymousreply 356September 23, 2023 7:28 PM

Wublev team or Daddy Fritz team?

by Anonymousreply 357September 23, 2023 8:37 PM

I think we should permanently retire "Cheryl" for good and instead rename that persona "Margaret Court."

My pussy stinks.

by Anonymousreply 358September 23, 2023 8:47 PM

On another note, Del Potro turns 35 today. (a.k.a., Nate's favorite age number, if you know what I mean).

by Anonymousreply 359September 23, 2023 8:53 PM

as long as I have a face, Del Potro has a place to sit

by Anonymousreply 360September 23, 2023 9:16 PM

@ R357

tough choice, but Ima say Daddy Team

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by Anonymousreply 361September 23, 2023 9:22 PM

Sweaty and shiny legs.

by Anonymousreply 362September 23, 2023 9:40 PM

Hoo.be team.

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by Anonymousreply 363September 23, 2023 9:45 PM

Daddy in a 2nd set TB

by Anonymousreply 364September 23, 2023 10:03 PM

Boy, Team Europe is weak.

No Djokovic, Alcaraz, Medvedev or Zverev.

For Laver Cup to be a major event, they have to find a way (a place in the schedule that works well, perhaps most importantly) to attract the very best.

Davidovic-Fokina seems like a nice guy but, come on.

by Anonymousreply 365September 23, 2023 10:11 PM

Is Shapo there this year?

by Anonymousreply 366September 23, 2023 10:12 PM

the yearly schedule is way too long, I can see why the top players don't play it

by Anonymousreply 367September 23, 2023 10:13 PM

Laver Cup is dumb and shouldn’t be a thing.

by Anonymousreply 368September 23, 2023 10:24 PM

Team Europe may have been shit on court, but they're certainly bringing The Gay Stuff off it...

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by Anonymousreply 369September 24, 2023 6:42 AM

How is Rublev in the Europe team if he officially doesn't have a country?

It's like the Olympics where they put all the Russians in their own team and make it obvious that it's Russia. Even the Refugee Olympic Team are separate to the Russians. I've always thought that if they wanted to start making the Russians take things seriously they should incorporate their team with the refugees. The racist Russians would definitely not have liked that.

As for Rublev, either he's a very straight but slightly awkward person who is comfortable with doing this because he isn't attracted to men. Or he's gay.. I don't know which it is.

by Anonymousreply 370September 24, 2023 6:50 AM

It's clear that Rublev was attempting a spontaneous ass transplant.

by Anonymousreply 371September 24, 2023 6:57 AM

Casper looking adorable

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by Anonymousreply 372September 24, 2023 11:06 AM

Mopsy and Felix get it done

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by Anonymousreply 373September 24, 2023 11:08 AM

I think we'll quietly hear the end of Laver Cup within five years. It was Roger's baby, and if he and Rafa aren't able/willing to play, it's dead. Rog could have played doubles and not embarassed himself. Is Rod Laver even at the venue?

by Anonymousreply 374September 24, 2023 11:51 AM

Yes, Laver is at the venue, looking very Father Time. Makes me wonder whether he'll see the Cup's demise or vice versa.

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by Anonymousreply 375September 24, 2023 2:26 PM

I’m glad to see we’re talking about Laver Cup.

by Anonymousreply 376September 24, 2023 2:50 PM

Well, this is where we talk about it ;)

by Anonymousreply 377September 24, 2023 2:57 PM

I don’t know. I think Laver Cup could/should be a fun event. I value it much more than Davis Cup or BJK Cup.

They could include women and, if they’re able to attract the stars, it could be really fun. (I like the team atmosphere and think it brings out the best in some.)

But the likes of Hubie will not keep anyone on the edge of their seat.

by Anonymousreply 378September 24, 2023 2:58 PM

I much prefer it to NextGen.

by Anonymousreply 379September 24, 2023 3:02 PM

Davis Cup and "BJK" Cup are also dumb.

by Anonymousreply 380September 24, 2023 3:03 PM

Why is no one talking about Sakkari’s first win in 4 years and only second WTA win ever. Good for her! Hopefully a major weight off her (beautiful, athletic) shoulders!

by Anonymousreply 381September 24, 2023 3:18 PM

What about the Wightman Cup and the Maureen Connolly Cup?

None of these cups mentioned in the thread were or are dumb. It’s just a question of relevance as the tennis world changes.

by Anonymousreply 382September 24, 2023 3:20 PM

Fortunately they’re reverting to the traditional Davis Cup format after the current sponsorship ends.

I abhor the name Billie Jean Cup. She’s received so many well-deserved accolades, but this too should revert.

by Anonymousreply 383September 24, 2023 3:22 PM

[quote] only second WTA win ever

What’s remarkable is that it’s in WTA.

by Anonymousreply 384September 24, 2023 3:23 PM

I was considering going to Laver Cup this year, but with the top talent not there, it was not worth it. I do love Vancouver though.

by Anonymousreply 385September 24, 2023 3:27 PM

No one’s talking about it because no one was there to watch. No one wanted to play. She beat Caroline Dolehide in a 1000 final?! That’s not a good look for the WTA…

by Anonymousreply 386September 24, 2023 3:29 PM

R381 I meant to post about Maria's win last night but fell asleep. Good for her. She has been struggling last few months, this win should provide a boost of confidence.

R386, 9 out of the Top10 didnt play. Also,.Caroline played very well throughout the tournament.

by Anonymousreply 387September 24, 2023 3:45 PM

They have major league pickle ball now?

(Roll eyes)

by Anonymousreply 388September 24, 2023 3:47 PM

Je suis lassé de ces polémiques incessantes et futiles. Certaines personnes semblent s’enflammer pour des broutilles. Je suis agacé par ceux qui portent des jugements hâtifs. Certains pourraient penser que, parce que je souris et que je m’amuse, je ne suis pas sérieux. Certes, ma vision est peut-être différente, mais je m’efforce toujours de respecter les directives qui me sont données.

À 37 ans, j’essaie simplement de profiter au maximum de chaque instant. Lorsqu’on m’a proposé de participer à la Laver Cup, j’ai été honoré. Avec mon classement actuel, en dehors du top 100 à cet âge, j’ai même cru à une plaisanterie. Mais je prends cette opportunité très au sérieux, pour l’événement, pour mon équipe et surtout pour moi. Voyager jusqu’à Vancouver et quitter ma famille à nouveau n’est pas la chose la plus simple. Mais, malgré tout, je continue d’exercer mon métier avec passion et sincérité, comme je l’ai toujours fait. Et, sans langue de bois, je dois admettre que je suis très bien rémunéré pour cela et que les conditions sont exceptionnelles.

Je sais, certains diront que je n’ai rien accompli, que je suis un clown… Mais la vérité, c’est que je suis heureux et épanoui. Je tiens à préciser que la Laver Cup est un événement fantastique, et je compte profiter pleinement de la fin de mon week-end. Let’s go Team Europe, let’s catch up Team World 💪🏾!

by Anonymousreply 389September 24, 2023 4:49 PM

Uh ma'am, this is a Wendy's

by Anonymousreply 390September 24, 2023 4:54 PM

That must be from Monfiles, R389. I'm not going to labor through the translation word for word, but basically he's saying that he's tired of the tempest in a teapot about his qualifications to play in the Laver Cup and that he was honored to be invited. He first took it as a joke since he's 37 and out of the top 100, but he's still serious in his dedication to the sport and the event even though it was difficult to leave his new family for the event. He's also quite happy with how well he was compensated and for the nice reception/conditions/quarters. He knows some think of him as a clown who hasn't done much in his career, but he feels happy and fulfilled even so.

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by Anonymousreply 392September 24, 2023 5:15 PM

Well that's life. g.e.m.s.life.

by Anonymousreply 393September 24, 2023 5:15 PM

He’s cool by me.

by Anonymousreply 394September 24, 2023 5:19 PM

I'm a big FAA fan, yet very surprised by how much of a stick he got up his ass and misread the room because of Monfils' very brief sit-down moment of fun. This is the Laver Cup, not Wimbledon.

by Anonymousreply 395September 24, 2023 5:22 PM

Here's the context including Monfils' remarks translated.

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by Anonymousreply 396September 24, 2023 5:26 PM

FAA takes LC so seriously yet he has yet to pass then 3rd round of a tournament since Nov 2022

by Anonymousreply 397September 24, 2023 5:37 PM

For me the only eye candy at Laver Cup this year is Casper Ruud and Daddy Fritz.

by Anonymousreply 398September 24, 2023 5:53 PM

For me Casper and Fritz are the least of the plentiful eye candy.

by Anonymousreply 399September 24, 2023 5:57 PM

What r399 said!

by Anonymousreply 400September 24, 2023 6:30 PM

Is this where we talk about the Japan Open?

by Anonymousreply 401September 24, 2023 8:02 PM

FAA doesn’t seem to understand the spirit of these events. They are glorified exhibitions.

The crowd wants to see high-level play, and see the players showing their personalities.

But I like FAA and think he’s going through a rough period.

by Anonymousreply 402September 24, 2023 8:06 PM

Fun watching Shelton and Tiafoe playing doubles.

Don’t know what Ben’s ceiling is but he’s going to continue to rise.

by Anonymousreply 403September 24, 2023 8:11 PM

FAA is a joke

by Anonymousreply 404September 24, 2023 8:29 PM

Mopsy and Big Foe!

I'm long Mopsy, too, R403.

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by Anonymousreply 405September 24, 2023 9:08 PM

Embarrassing that Laver Cup was decided with three matches to go. Organizers’ worst-case scenario.

by Anonymousreply 406September 24, 2023 9:28 PM

They had some sort of glitch when they tried to announce Berlin as the next host city of Laver Cup.

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by Anonymousreply 408September 24, 2023 10:49 PM

LOTS of DL boyfriends

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by Anonymousreply 409September 24, 2023 10:54 PM

Poor Tommy. The only player on his team to drop a match.

by Anonymousreply 410September 24, 2023 11:02 PM

Well at least he can say he was part of the winning team.

by Anonymousreply 411September 24, 2023 11:03 PM

So CocoPuffs is taking a long break it seems. No show at Guadalajara, No show at upcoming Japan Open...

by Anonymousreply 412September 24, 2023 11:29 PM

Good for Coco. At this stage of her career, she shouldn’t overdo it.

And I bet Brad wants to work on some things. Do it after her first taste of Majors success.

by Anonymousreply 413September 24, 2023 11:33 PM

Felix made it to the 4th round of this year's AO, R397. In 2023 he's also made it to the semis in Doha and the quarters in Indian Wells, all of which are beyond the third round.

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by Anonymousreply 414September 25, 2023 12:16 AM

FAA has those 3 upcoming ATP 2022 wins to defend. His ranking is going to crash through the floor.

by Anonymousreply 415September 25, 2023 12:45 AM

Joining Shapo already there. Though Felix might turn it around. He's been down this road before.

by Anonymousreply 416September 25, 2023 12:47 AM

Fat Sock baptized and "born again"

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by Anonymousreply 417September 25, 2023 1:15 AM

Sock says goodbye to common sense. Oh well, at least his wife's happy. Enjoy the Trump rally...

by Anonymousreply 418September 25, 2023 1:22 AM

Oh no!

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by Anonymousreply 419September 25, 2023 12:45 PM

Nobody saw either of those things coming, r417 and r419.

by Anonymousreply 420September 25, 2023 1:28 PM

Cigars... the perfect complement to the trashy and boorish Laver Cup. Thank fuck it's over.

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by Anonymousreply 421September 25, 2023 1:40 PM

A face like a bulldog chewing a wasp…

by Anonymousreply 422September 25, 2023 1:42 PM

Rybakina has withdrawn from the Toray Pan Pacific Open.

by Anonymousreply 423September 25, 2023 1:52 PM

Is this also called the Japan Open? R423

by Anonymousreply 424September 25, 2023 1:57 PM

Is this where we talk about it?

by Anonymousreply 425September 25, 2023 2:28 PM

My goodness r419 even by the standards of today’s disposable relationships that was one brief encounter.

by Anonymousreply 426September 25, 2023 3:01 PM

Is Rybakina having a mental health crisis? She was furious that she wasn't seeded and couldn't skip a round like two women ranked lower than her but who bothered to show up at Guadalajara, which I think only had one player out of the top 10. An embarrassment for the WTA. And Ryba gets punished.

Oh pretty girl, calm down and take your medicine. Those girls had to work last week and you could just lay around and eat grapes and take performance meds, or whatever you do when you're off.

by Anonymousreply 427September 25, 2023 3:11 PM

Bored AF and scrolling through the Challenfer scores - as you do - and come across another ATP hottie who seems to have flown under the radar of the DL Gays & Tennis HunkHunters.

I present Andrea Pellegrino - winner of the Challenger in Bad Waltersdorf, Austria.

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by Anonymousreply 428September 25, 2023 3:40 PM

Guns 'N Trophies

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by Anonymousreply 429September 25, 2023 4:11 PM

He’s a tall drink of (Pellegrino) water.

by Anonymousreply 430September 25, 2023 6:36 PM

Is this where we talk about Zavarovalnica Sava Llubljana?

by Anonymousreply 431September 25, 2023 7:54 PM

I follow the Challenger events often and secure my hottie faves....only to sometimes watch one of you lovely folks discover the same player and claim him as yours.

The Challengers can be a real treasure trove of gorgeous guys...but...too many camera long shots and lack of focus on shirt changes, often breaking away to ads or plopping that huge stat graphic. That graphic is annoying enough because it blocks out the handshake at the end of the match, and lingers after a set while the hotties are shirtless.

Damn it all, at ALL levels, sex sells...so SELL the fuck out of it!

by Anonymousreply 432September 25, 2023 11:26 PM

[quote] often breaking away to ads


[quote] That graphic is annoying enough because it blocks

As does the Jardiance fatso woman.

by Anonymousreply 433September 25, 2023 11:34 PM

Is this where we talk about the Ningbo Open?

by Anonymousreply 434September 26, 2023 12:44 AM

R431 who is that?

by Anonymousreply 435September 26, 2023 1:18 AM

I like the WTA's new 'performance byes'. I think it will definitely encourage players who won or did well in a tournament to play the next one and that can only be good for fans and the game. It's not a secret that Rybakina hates being a tennis player and wanted to quit before she won Wimbledon so I think that's the real reason behind her discontent. Her coach is known for being abusive but I think they're in a relationship so that isn't a healthy situation either.

by Anonymousreply 436September 26, 2023 5:43 AM

She needs a "gratefulness diary". Dear Elena, if you're listening, buy one and every morning get up and list all the things you're grateful for -- winning Wimbledon, your Kazakh nationality, your beautiful face and long limbs - you could be a model! Find a hot guy to pay for things and stuff, and retire!!

by Anonymousreply 437September 26, 2023 2:38 PM

Yeah, Rybakina is an odd one. Seems mild-mannered on court but has made some heated remarks off-court that come across as pretty entitled.

by Anonymousreply 438September 26, 2023 3:54 PM

Sascha and Karen win in China

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by Anonymousreply 439September 26, 2023 4:24 PM

It's Ratface around here.

by Anonymousreply 440September 26, 2023 4:48 PM

Svee is finally in On running shoes. All that buttering up by Federer (he has a stake in the company) seems to have worked. She isn't playing well though.

by Anonymousreply 441September 27, 2023 8:52 AM

FL fave Wolfman through qualies into the main draw in Beijing


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by Anonymousreply 442September 27, 2023 11:01 AM

more Wolfman

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by Anonymousreply 443September 27, 2023 11:03 AM

Legz back in action

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by Anonymousreply 444September 27, 2023 11:04 AM

Thunder Thighs Wolfman!

Weird looking with that Crayola bright blue monochrome outfit, the small cap, the long curls and little mustache. It's a choice.

by Anonymousreply 445September 27, 2023 1:59 PM

It’s a mullet monster

by Anonymousreply 446September 27, 2023 2:05 PM

So glad Iga 's game is shit

by Anonymousreply 447September 27, 2023 4:53 PM

Nuno Borges had a good win over Kukushkin today, with the entire crowd against him.


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by Anonymousreply 448September 27, 2023 9:15 PM

Thank you taking the time to post the eye candy. I know it takes time to find good pics of 🔥 players. I especially like the swarthy ones.

by Anonymousreply 449September 27, 2023 9:28 PM

R449, who are some of your favorites? Carlitos? Giron?

by Anonymousreply 450September 27, 2023 9:39 PM

Is this where we talk about the China Open?

by Anonymousreply 451September 28, 2023 12:27 AM

Yes, R451 but the discussion must be in Mandarin.

by Anonymousreply 452September 28, 2023 12:59 AM

Good day for my boys in China today - The UGOAT (finally defeating Sonego at the third attempt this year), Etcheverry, Foki, and Demon all winning.

Here's Tomas Martin looking exceptionally pretty.

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by Anonymousreply 453September 28, 2023 3:00 PM

Giron beat Stan in 3 tiebreak sets. Great win for Marcos.

by Anonymousreply 454September 28, 2023 3:23 PM

Looks like Demon got under Misery's skin

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by Anonymousreply 455September 28, 2023 5:04 PM

oh, dear

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by Anonymousreply 456September 28, 2023 5:07 PM

Isn't he too old for this?

by Anonymousreply 457September 28, 2023 5:10 PM

Im assuming Murray retires next summer after Wimbledon and the Olympics.

by Anonymousreply 458September 28, 2023 5:11 PM

I was watching the tail end of the Murray match. He had three match points he couldn't convert, at least two on his serve in the final set tiebreak. Also, he is now 0-5 against DeMinauer.

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by Anonymousreply 460September 28, 2023 5:49 PM

More Challenger Tour eye candy....

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by Anonymousreply 461September 28, 2023 7:35 PM

Part 2

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by Anonymousreply 462September 28, 2023 7:38 PM

Good spots R461.

I very much approve of Machac's short length - hope it catches on.

Btw his opponent, Constant Lestienne, was sporting a huge bulge when he collapsed to the floor on winning last week's Challenger in St-Tropez - and no, it definitely wasn't a ball in his pocket. I've clocked it many times before.

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by Anonymousreply 463September 28, 2023 7:58 PM

Beijing has some good matches tomorrow.

Legz Team or FAA Team?

Our Tommy Team or Med Team?

Sascha Team or Lil Diego Team?

by Anonymousreply 464September 28, 2023 9:30 PM

FAA team (Legz for eye candy though I won’t have a chance to watch.)

Kind of indifferent but I’ll lean Med team.

‘Lil Diego team (A. Zverev for eye candy).

by Anonymousreply 465September 28, 2023 10:18 PM

How can I watch the Tokyo Open? Anyone able.to provide a link?

by Anonymousreply 466September 29, 2023 3:45 AM

Is this where we talk about Tokyo Open?

by Anonymousreply 467September 29, 2023 3:58 AM

Hate to bring everyone’s mood down a notch or two, but the Peng Shuai question refuses to go away (or at least, we shouldn’t let it).

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by Anonymousreply 468September 29, 2023 6:27 AM

Is Peng Shua still missing?

by Anonymousreply 469September 29, 2023 9:22 AM

Yes! Iga lost.

by Anonymousreply 470September 29, 2023 9:23 AM

Jarry drives Citybus off the road.

Will TitsyFLOP even qualify for the ATP Finals at this rate?

by Anonymousreply 471September 29, 2023 10:10 AM

bye Tommy :-(

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by Anonymousreply 472September 29, 2023 10:51 AM


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by Anonymousreply 473September 29, 2023 10:54 AM

Titsy and FAA

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by Anonymousreply 474September 29, 2023 11:45 AM

So Wim Fissette just left Zheng Qinwen for Naomi Osaka lol. Not a surprise given his track record, but still surprising how quickly it happened.

Also says a lot about Naomi, to poach another player's coach before the season even ends. Didn't she also poach Andreescu's longtime fitness guy, just to get preggos a couple of months later?

by Anonymousreply 475September 29, 2023 2:45 PM

Iga is done. The other girls have figured out her game. No variety. The fear factor is gone, girls are no longer intimidated. She is struggling to win matches against qualifiers. Her opponent in China is Sorribes Torno. I predict a r1 exit for Iga in China

In happier news, glad to see Sakkari doing well

by Anonymousreply 476September 29, 2023 3:32 PM

R476 knows a lot about tennis!

by Anonymousreply 477September 29, 2023 6:50 PM

r475, Not suprising at all, coaches are bought and sold on the open market. Who would you choose? I'd pick the star billionaire. I was shocked to hear how little the coaches earned. I think, the video on the player salaries said , starting at 70K, plus expenses. And, of course, there would be a lot of freebees from sponsors and bonuses for wins.

by Anonymousreply 478September 29, 2023 7:34 PM

Didn't idiot Osaka fire a coach who wanted a raise after she won 2 straight slams with him? Is this the same guy?

by Anonymousreply 479September 29, 2023 7:54 PM

R479 That was Bajin, but she did fire Fissette too lol.

I felt for Osaka with that whole press room/depression debacle but I'm beginning to see why she has so much mental anguish. Sweet AND ruthless is a juggling act very few can comfortably manage, and she's certainly not one of them.

by Anonymousreply 480September 29, 2023 9:11 PM

The idea that Iga is done for is ludicrous.

She’s in a bit of a temporary trough.

There is no evidence this is permanent.

by Anonymousreply 481September 29, 2023 9:24 PM

She’s dead, Mr. Finch. Let the dead bury the dead…

by Anonymousreply 482September 29, 2023 10:32 PM

Carlitos and brother.

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by Anonymousreply 483September 29, 2023 10:48 PM

el hermano es mas guapo

by Anonymousreply 484September 30, 2023 10:31 AM

Domicakes overcomes Giron to win The Battle Of The Huge Asses in Astana!

by Anonymousreply 485September 30, 2023 12:46 PM

The UGOAT turns back the clock and repeats his Halle 2021 final win over Wubey in a 3-set thriller in China. Great quality match.

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by Anonymousreply 486September 30, 2023 1:45 PM

Beijing matches tomorrow:

Carlitos Team or Lore Team?

Legz Team or (not so) Young Grigor Team?

TME Team or Cute Casper Team?

Lil Nipper Team or Il Gingio Team?

by Anonymousreply 487September 30, 2023 9:16 PM

Lore, Young G, TME, Nishioka Teams

Shitsumon shite itadaki arigatōgozaimasu!

by Anonymousreply 488October 1, 2023 6:43 AM

Old Grigor gives Ruuuuuuuune a good spanking in straight sets. Holger was sent to bed with no supper, and is looking vulnerable at #8 in the ATP Race. I'll be delighted if both he and Stefanos miss the cut!

by Anonymousreply 489October 1, 2023 1:23 PM

I'm getting a little confused, but more angry that events, except for challengers, seem to be run awkwardly, finals every damned day of the week. I need stability with all events ending on a Sunday, and new rankings announced Mondays.

by Anonymousreply 490October 1, 2023 3:23 PM

I'm getting a little confused, but more angry that events, except for challengers, seem to be run awkwardly, finals every damned day of the week. I need stability with all events ending on a Sunday, and new rankings announced Mondays.

by Anonymousreply 491October 1, 2023 3:23 PM

Well hung otter,Tomas Machac, overcomes Big Jack D to win the Orleans Challenger.

Love the way he rolls up his shorts to make them even shorter.

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by Anonymousreply 492October 1, 2023 5:47 PM

The nicknames Chinese fans have granted some of the top ATP players: - Tsitsipas is 'Princess Sissi' (long blond hair) - Alcaraz is 'Duck' (for Psyduck in Pokémon) - Medvedev is 'Long-Arm Monkey' (gibbon) while Rublev is 'Golden Snub-Nosed Monkey' - Sinner is 'Milk Roll Cake' (there's a famous Taiwanese cake brand called Yannick) - Ruud is 'Headmaster's Good Student' (trains in Nadal's academy) - Rune is 'Nene' (which, unrelatedly, means underwear in Chinese) - Djokovic is 'Chicken', with his rivalry with Alcaraz sometimes dubbed 'Chicken and Duck'

by Anonymousreply 493October 1, 2023 8:49 PM

bye Legz :-(

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by Anonymousreply 494October 1, 2023 9:15 PM

Cute Casper

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by Anonymousreply 496October 1, 2023 9:19 PM

R493 -Fucsovics is 'Brother Toilet'

The mind boggles.

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by Anonymousreply 497October 1, 2023 9:33 PM

Rublev gave it his all, poor thing lost

Don't like the look of Humbert he looks and moves like an asshole

Carlitos looks in top form, wished Novaxx was in this tournament so we could witness him being g whipped by Carlos. Probably why Novaxx skipped the Asian swing ,he knows Carlos would come for revenge. Coward

Jessica is burnt out, won't be surprised if she bows out of China open early

Cross fingers that iga losing her match against Sorribes Tormo tonight

Hoping SheHulk wins this tournament

by Anonymousreply 498October 2, 2023 12:30 AM

When Asian swing stop?

by Anonymousreply 499October 2, 2023 2:14 AM

What went wrong for Serena in that US Open match against Andrescu ? Had only dropped one ser the entire tournament to lose in straight sets to an unseeded teenager?!?!

by Anonymousreply 500October 2, 2023 4:05 AM

Coco Puffs got the movie star welcome in China

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by Anonymousreply 501October 2, 2023 4:06 AM

Sorribes Tormo

by Anonymousreply 502October 2, 2023 4:40 AM

R500 Andreescu's win rate against top 10 players was insane that season. She was the favorite going into that final.

by Anonymousreply 503October 2, 2023 4:50 AM

R493 - they're very funny! But why do Chinese fans call Holger Rune "underwear"? I think diapers would be more apt.

by Anonymousreply 504October 2, 2023 5:00 AM

You've never seen Humbert play before, R498? He's never shown any assholery in any of the many matches I've seen him play.

by Anonymousreply 505October 2, 2023 6:19 AM

R505 I agree. Of all the players on tour, Humbert is probably one with the least 'asshole' traits. I've never seen him be disrespectful towards an opponent, an umpire or a crowd. He can get down on himself, and I've seen him direct looks and comments to his team, but all pretty mild compared with most other players. He's a bit of a fist-pumper, but probably for the same reasons Sinner does it - a natural introvert who has to work to pump himself up.

by Anonymousreply 506October 2, 2023 6:41 AM

Quinween Zhen was embarassed by Rybot

by Anonymousreply 507October 2, 2023 1:03 PM

Have I got something wrong - the same Kudermetova who won the Japan Open on Sept 30 is playing in the Round of 32 in the China Open on October 3?

by Anonymousreply 508October 2, 2023 5:25 PM

Yes r508, why is that a problem? So is Pegula

by Anonymousreply 509October 2, 2023 5:58 PM

Yes, and they wouldn't be playing if they didn't get one of the new performance byes. This means that more top players will be playing tournaments.

by Anonymousreply 510October 2, 2023 6:43 PM

Carlitos Team or Il Gingio Team?

Med Team or Sascha Team?

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by Anonymousreply 512October 2, 2023 9:03 PM

Carlitos team.

Med team.

by Anonymousreply 513October 2, 2023 9:06 PM

r7, How quickly we forget. He was watching Shark Week on tv when Stormy arrived and he talked about how much he hated them. There was a magazine with his picture on the cover and she spanked him with it, before shoving his shitake dick inside her, for ninety seconds.

From the Guardian: “He knows he has an unusual penis,” Daniels writes. “It has a huge mushroom head. Like a toadstool …

“I lay there, annoyed that I was getting fucked by a guy with Yeti pubes and a dick like the mushroom character in Mario Kart ...

by Anonymousreply 514October 2, 2023 9:25 PM

His anti-vax stance seems to be authentic at least. It still blows my mind that he forfeited two potential slams for.. that. What an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 515October 2, 2023 9:28 PM

R514 is lost

by Anonymousreply 516October 2, 2023 9:30 PM

Keeping it unanimous so far for Carlitos and Med teams.

by Anonymousreply 517October 2, 2023 10:19 PM

OOPs, sorry to have subjected you to that vulgar image

by Anonymousreply 518October 2, 2023 10:25 PM

I like upsets so Ginge and Sascha (and anyway, he's cuter)

by Anonymousreply 519October 2, 2023 11:41 PM

I really like Jannick

by Anonymousreply 520October 3, 2023 1:13 AM

Jannick who?

by Anonymousreply 521October 3, 2023 2:03 AM

Gay GOATdrian Mannarino faces off with Lezface Korda in the Astana final.

If Adrian wins he'll move up to within one place of his highest ever ATP raking (22). Quite the season for the Old Timer.

by Anonymousreply 522October 3, 2023 9:54 AM

Get Up Coco!

by Anonymousreply 523October 3, 2023 10:00 AM

Go Gaydrian!

by Anonymousreply 524October 3, 2023 10:51 AM


Second title of the season for Adrian. Korda virtually unbreakable all week, but Mannarino took it apart in the second and third sets - broke him 4 times!

Absolutely awesome tennis.

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by Anonymousreply 525October 3, 2023 11:50 AM

Il Gingio whips Carltos's pants down and whoops his ass - 7-6, 6-1

That's gotta sting!

by Anonymousreply 526October 3, 2023 2:57 PM

Sinner beats Alcaraz 7-6(4), 6-1. Wow, I really thought that this was going three sets. I was impressed with the way in which Sinner won the first set. He pummeled Alcaraz's second serve to win the tiebreaker. I hope this is a good sign that Sinner is learning to play the big points better. Would love for a Sinner-Alcaraz rivalry to really heat up over the coming years.

by Anonymousreply 527October 3, 2023 3:06 PM

ll Gingio!

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by Anonymousreply 528October 3, 2023 3:33 PM

I don’t know. It also might be a case where one player raises his game for the big matches and the other does better in the smaller tourneys.

by Anonymousreply 529October 3, 2023 3:42 PM

OMG! One of my upsets came through!! Unfortunately cutey bad boy Sascha lost to the octopus - or I should say Long-Arm Monkey (thank you R493). The Chinese are worse than Datalounge with using nicknames.

by Anonymousreply 530October 3, 2023 3:56 PM

Sinner now leads their head-to-head 4-3.

Alcaraz and Sinner have met twice at Slams; they've each won once.

Seems pretty evenly matched.

by Anonymousreply 531October 3, 2023 4:00 PM

'Cutey bad boy'?

Seek help!

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by Anonymousreply 532October 3, 2023 4:02 PM

Zverev is about as cute as he is even-keeled.

by Anonymousreply 533October 3, 2023 5:37 PM

He is a changed man

by Anonymousreply 534October 3, 2023 9:58 PM

Zverev does nothing for me. Too thin.

Neither does Alcaraz, tho. Those teefs and weird nips and low hairline, kinda cro-magnon.

by Anonymousreply 535October 3, 2023 10:19 PM

I think Sinner is the skinniest one.

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by Anonymousreply 536October 3, 2023 10:27 PM

Something so sexy about Jannik

by Anonymousreply 537October 3, 2023 10:29 PM

Yeah Skinner is corpse-like. I don't understand where guys like that get the stamina. But long distance runners are super-thin, too.

Anyway I like thiccer mins.

by Anonymousreply 538October 3, 2023 10:30 PM

oops, Sinner I mean

by Anonymousreply 539October 3, 2023 10:32 PM

Sinner is Spikey Dee.

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by Anonymousreply 540October 3, 2023 10:34 PM

What's considered attactive in China these days? Do they really have the hots for the pale, bony, thin guys with sharp facial features and dead eyes (Zverev and Sinner)?

by Anonymousreply 541October 3, 2023 11:39 PM

R530, why would Medvedev (former World #1 and current #3 and U.S. Open RU) beating Zverev be an upset? Or do you know anything about tennis?

by Anonymousreply 542October 3, 2023 11:51 PM

I love the expression "pants down" and think it should be a literal ending of each match.

by Anonymousreply 543October 3, 2023 11:54 PM

R538 Freudian slip

by Anonymousreply 544October 4, 2023 12:00 AM

Taking a page from the A. Zverev Guide to Self-Control....

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