Dem Prez Candidates Are Afraid to Take on Mighty Joe Biden

Duh. What kind of nasty fucking Democratic cunt tries to destroy a very successful Democratic President of the United States?

I know Ted Kennedy tried it back in Carter's day but he was wrong and it was a fucking disaster. Nobody with any sense is going to try it again (at least not in my lifetime).

[quote]“Why isn’t a mainstream Democrat challenging the president?”

Because every Democrat in their right mind sees Joe Biden has done a kick ass job! He has overperformed every one of his millions of naysayers including those on the left!

Because we don't buy into the dingbat narrative that some magical figure like Newsom or Michelle Obama just HAS to swoop in and take over. It's a stupid fantasy and we see no reason to embrace it.

It’s Jonathan Chait.

Biden is in trouble. I'm worried for 2024.

The only realistic challenger is Pritzker, but he's a fat fuck like Trump and Christie.

He has all that Hyatt money to fund a campaign, but he knows what everybody else does: Biden maintained that he would be a recovery president and pass the torch after one term. But he reneged and here we are. None of the candidates from 2020 are electable so it would have to be somebody else. Manchin? Fuck that. Harris? Nope. We got into bed with Biden and we'll just have to wait until he corks off, which might be during a second term after all.

It's Biden versus Trump r5. That's the lineup. Count on it. Don't invent fantasies about perfect Democratic candidates. Go with reality. It's happening.

R7 I have no clue what you're talking about. I'm worried about Biden in the general election. I am not implying Biden should be replaced. I'm worried he'll lose in November against whoever the GOP nominates. I'm not "inventing fantasies" and I'm well in touch with reality.

Are you?

That's fine r8. Worry is fine. Make the Biden re-election happen to the best of your ability. What we don't need is nonsense about RFK Jr or Newsom or anybody else. That is dingbat bullshit and nobody needs to waste their time with it.

It will be a fight. It always is. This country is incredibly stupid and might just re-elect Trump, the shittiest president in human history, also a criminal, and a traitor. We need to all prevent that.

I love how for years the press's mantra was "if only Democrats would fall in line like Republicans." Now they are and it's "what's wrong with the Democrats that they're falling in line?" They can kindly fuck off.

Remember this headline from Jonathan Chait before Super Tuesday in 2020? He was the David Brooks of David Sirotas!

"Joe Biden's Campaign Was a Disaster for Liberalism and the Democratic Party"

If Joe drops dead before the election who would run for the Democrats? Some people should hover around looking interested and capable, just in case they have to be a last minute replacement

Well, I guess that would be incumbent President Kamala Harris at that point r12, running for re-election.

Unless there's a MAJOR crisis, who the fuck runs against your own party's incumbent?

I don't know what Mr. Chait is thinking adding more "Biden is too old" crap into the discussion.

Biden has been GREAT - if you don't believe me, look up all of his accomplishments.

I dare say he's been better than Obama - but Obama had inherited us being on the brink of financial disaster to contend with. Slightly easier than going into a term of a pandemic with the vaccine being available.

He's waaay too fuckin' old. Everyone knows this, including the rah-rah cheerleaders here.

Dude can't even make sentence. You're crazy if you think he's going to actually be on the ballot in November. I know in the DL echo chamber it would never be admitted but this guy is hated. Didn't he say he was only going to be a one termer anyway?

He's not r15. I wish he were younger, but he's actually not too old for the job, clearly. He is actually doing it. He's doing fine, better than fine.

He's going to be on the ballot in November of 2024, r16, and no, he is not hated. That is just dingbat bullshit from Fox News and whatever bullshit wingnut sites you spend most of your time on.

Yeah, R17. That's right. Here, pull my finger! Hehehe.

HI ECHO CHAMBER!

Time for some fresh blood in the Oval Office.

[quote] Here, pull my finger! Hehehe.

Thanks, no. Not voting for RFK Jr either. Stop having stupid fantasies about the presidency. It's a waste of everyone's time.

Mighty senile

Gavin Newsome vs. Ron DeSantis. Haven't they both fucked Kimberly Guilfoyle?

[quote]Why isn’t a mainstream Democrat challenging the president?

Because it's fucking crazy to give up the incumbency advantage, that's why. Who in their own party challenged Trump in 2020, or Obama in 2012?

It's not that no one dares, it's that it goes against established political wisdom and just plain common sense. Primaries when a sitting president declares he's running again shouldn't even be a thing, they're a complete and needless waste of money for the party already in the White House.

Historically, it’s very hard to defeat an elected president who has a united party behind him, so good on other Dems for not challenging Biden.

Well the political class is saying that the party isn’t united behind him, R26.

Chait is an asshole and already knows the answer to his question (if he doesn’t, he should be fired immediately from his job covering politics).

[quote]Dude can't even make sentence.

You mean Trump, right? A guy who can barely speak his native tongue!

Did you not happen to have seen Biden's State of the Union speech this year, where he MOPPED THE FLOOR with the GOP and most other SotU speeches given by other Presidents?

You aren't Brianna Joy Gray by any chance, are you?

If Trump is able to run, he will win. The only chance for Dems to win is if they replace Biden / Harris.

Why are you so confident that Trump will win, R30?

[quote]Why are you so confident that Trump will win, [R30]?

Because he'll be voting for Trump again as he did in 2020!

He voted for Jill Stein in 2016, of course.

quote]Dude can't even make sentence. You're crazy if you think he's going to actually be on the ballot in November. I know in the DL echo chamber it would never be admitted but this guy is hated. Didn't he say he was only going to be a one termer anyway?

r16 = retarded

r31, Don't waste your time with MyTwoCents.

I was not aware of him, R34.

But, R27, the party is “united” in the sense that there won’t be a bloody primary race, leaving many disaffected voters who’d sit out the general. Biden will have the united support of his party in the general, especially against Trump, the greatest GOTV in history.

Pritzker's fatness makes him relatable to the average person, since the average American is fat, and he has the common touch.

[quote]Pritzker's fatness makes him relatable to the average person, since the average American is fat, and he has the common touch.

I haven't found that to be the case.

But the average American, like the average DLer, looks down on fat people while being fat.

The GOP will stroke out when Kamala becomes POTUS.

Biden has already PROVED he can beat Trump. Case Closed.

^^And that was before Trump's failed attempt to manage Covid, 2 impeachments, 4 indictments, stacking the Supreme court, failed coup and messy personal life with prostitutes.

Plus he might be a convicted felon before the general election even begins.

I, too, believe Biden can (again) beat Trump, R42, but you’re recounting of history is off.

If Biden was not the biggest threat to Trump they would need to be going after his son for petty crimes none of them would ever be arrested for. The fact is Trumps first impeachment was about trying to force Zalinsky to come up with fake dirt on Biden before he even announced he was running the first time. Now it's the same game, different target.

LOL Did you view his "speech" in Vietnam?

President Biden never said he'd only serve for one term. Where are you getting this loony shit from, Sean Shamitty?

The president is just three years older than his opponent, Mr Trump. They're both old although the president isn't as fat or sedentary as Mr Trump. The people catastrophizing about the president are all Rethuglican propagandists. They know that the president will beat Mr Trump again and even more easily this time.

Besides, Fuckface von Clownstick is much too busy with 91 felony charges (and more on the way!) in four separate jurisdictions (and more on the way!) to seriously bother with losing the presidential election again.

He'll do it, sort of, to try to stay out of prison but it's not going to work. He will never win another election (if he even won one, which is dubious at best), his political career is over. He'll be lucky to get 30 years on house arrest.

Can someone make up their fucking mind? First, he is unpopular, then no dems want to challenge him, then he is too old. FFS Pick a lane.

He is old and even during his successful 2020 run for President his confusion was obvious and concerning. It's also obvious he's being protected by those around him including his wife, Jill.

The Rethuglican propagandists claim that the president is too old (while supporting Dump who is the same age).

Democrats are thrilled with the job the president has been doing and feel bad for him staying on the job for so long but know how important it is. We'll all turn out to vote for him both because of his great successes as POTUS an because he will destroy Dump once and for all.

Our minds are perfectly made up. We only have one lane that that lane is the re-election of president Joseph R. Biden. Our turnout will be fucking massive.

Any president with iffy numbers and a viable primary challenger ends up losing. It splits the party and its hard to put humpty dumpty back together again for the general. Idiots say that it helps the incumbent president because it kicks their campaign into high gear, identifies what works and what doesnt...that can definitely be true for house, senate, and governors races. Not true with an incumbent president.

If you say so Sybil

I’m less than half President Biden’a age and I trip over shit all the time. So the fuck what, R52?

Biden has been attacked for his age since '20, yet Trump will be (months) older in '24 than Biden was in '20 & that is of no moment to the same Biden-bashers.

They are doing it out of respect which, hopefully, won't totally fuck us.

R53 do you wander around looking lost and confused? Are you unable to complete thoughts or sentences? And are you the leader of the free world?

[Quote] Biden has been attacked for his age since '20, yet Trump will be (months) older in '24 than Biden was in '20 & that is of no moment to the same Biden-bashers.

R54 Get back to us when you've mastered syntax and grammar to say nothing of English

OP, you're completely delusional. He was never intelligent at all, but now his intellectual limitations are compounded by dementia - he would be crushed into oblivion by RFK Jr. In fact, in his current state even a mental lightweight like Trump could make mincemeat out of him!

This is just propaganda of the cheapest, most inept kind. Three years ago he was barely able to speak publicly without behaving erratically, but nowadays he is just a disaster. They are keeping him from debates because his performance would be even more disastrous than usual.

[Quote] I’m less than half President Biden’a age and I trip over shit all the time. So the fuck what,

And trip over your words as well. I assume you meant 'what the fuck'

Under this senile man's administration:

CHIPS Act

PACT Act

NATO expansion

American Rescue Plan

Infrastructure Law

Weakening Russia globally

Al-Zawahari eliminated

Reconciliation package

Lower unemployment

Railroad strike averted

An economy that's in better shape than in Europe or China's

Darren Drake Act

Saved Ukraine

Gay Marriage law

[QUOTE] OP, you're completely delusional.

Then why aren’t Democratic candidates lining up to take him on, R58?

Then why are his approval ratings low R60?

Brazile’s warning came as a new CNN poll last week put Biden’s job approval rating at 39%. Almost three-quarters of people are “seriously concerned” about his age, the survey also found. Registered voters marginally backed Trump (47%) over Biden (46%) in a replay of the 2020 election, the poll noted.

Elections aren’t based on an average of approval ratings, R62. It’s a choice between candidates. We’ll see how his approval ratings look this time in 2024 when the American people are staring down the possibility of Trump going back to the White House.

R63 did you not read the? Registered voters marginally backed Trump (47%) over Biden (46%) in a replay of the 2020 election, the poll noted.

Remember no one thought Trump a reality TV star with no political experience would win over Hilary.

R57 has limited reading comprehension.

No other Democrats have decided to fuck over the Democratic Party by challenging our successful POTUS, you fucking moron, R61. This has already been explained to you several times in this thread. Are you a 'tard, dear?

Whatever propaganda you're selling, the Datalounge and the Democrats aren't buying it. Nobody wants to be Ted Kennedy challenging President Carter. Nobody wants to be Ralph fucking Nader.

We have a good president who is accomplishing all kinds of stuff that we want done. The economy is banging. Unemployment is ridiculously low. Jobs jobs jobs are up. Manufacturing is up. Consumer confidence is up.

Nobody's challenging the POTUS because the POTUS is in a very strong position with a great record to run on. Meanwhile, the leading candidate against him has 91 felony charges (so far!) in four jurisdictions (so far!).

We'll wipe the fucking floor with Fuckface von Clownstick - go ahead and run that bitch.

Why so angry R66? If you really believe what you say why resort to insults? btw have you seen the poll conducted by CNN? It doesn't necessarily comport with what you're saying.

President Biden’s approval rating has dropped to 39%, according to the latest poll.

The poll, conducted by CNN, shows the president’s approval dropped 2 percentage points from July and 6 percentage points from January. Biden’s numbers on handling the economy were particularly troubling for Democrats, with 58% of respondents saying his presidency worsened economic conditions in the country, up 8 percentage points from the same time last year.

Only 26% said they felt Biden had the stamina and sharpness to serve effectively as president, compared to 74% who said he did not. Biden faired only slightly better – 28% -for those who said Biden inspires confidence in voters compared to 72% who said he does not. Overall, 70% said things were going either pretty badly or very badly in the country.

Don’t (unduly) despair. Trump will likely be the opponent. His support among suburban woman had irredeemably cratered even before Covid & all that he’s since done has only cemented that basic fact. As Biden is fond of saying, “Don’t compare me to the Almighty; compare me to the alternative.”

I literally could not give a flying fuck what polls say. Remember how Hillary was gonna crush Trump according to the polls? Or how there was supposed to be a huge red wave in 2022? Hell, I donated to Democrats in Maine and South Carolina in 2020 because "the polls" said the races were close, which turned out to be nowhere near the case. Polls are honestly garbage at this point.

These polls are a gift to Democrats. We don’t want to think Biden’s a shoo-in. That sentiment may have doomed Hillary.

"The early polls show Donald J. Trump and President Biden tied nationwide. Does that mean Mr. Trump has a clear advantage in the battleground states that decide the Electoral College?

It’s a reasonable question, and one I see quite often. In his first two presidential campaigns, Mr. Trump fared far better in the battleground states than he did nationwide, allowing him to win the presidency while losing the national vote in 2016 and nearly doing it again in 2020.

But there’s a case that his Electoral College advantage has faded. In the midterm elections last fall, Democrats fared about the same in the crucial battleground states as they did nationwide. And over the last year, state polls and a compilation of New York Times/Siena College surveys have shown Mr. Biden running as well or better in the battlegrounds as nationwide, with the results by state broadly mirroring the midterms."

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Whatever, R67, if you can't stand the insults then you've come to the wrong website. Leave now.

As for the rest of your silliness - meh. CNN blahblahblah. I don't give even one little fuck.

I stand by my post, dear.

[quote] Nobody's challenging the POTUS because the POTUS is in a very strong position with a great record to run on. Meanwhile, the leading candidate against him has 91 felony charges (so far!) in four jurisdictions (so far!).

[quote] We'll wipe the fucking floor with Fuckface von Clownstick - go ahead and run that bitch.

R72 I never said I couldn't stand the insults. When people resort to insults to get a point across it seems they have run out of talking points. I also wonder why people get so angry when someone has a POV that differs from theirs. It's not as if what is said on DL is going to have any effect on the 2024 election. You come across as someone who is humorless, angry who takes themselves and DL too seriously.

Whatever, R73, blahblahblahdeblahblah.

I stand by my statement.

[quote] Nobody's challenging the POTUS because the POTUS is in a very strong position with a great record to run on. Meanwhile, the leading candidate against him has 91 felony charges (so far!) in four jurisdictions (so far!).

[quote] We'll wipe the fucking floor with Fuckface von Clownstick - go ahead and run that bitch.

Like I said R74 you've run out of talking points.

[Quote] R57 has limited reading comprehension.

None actually when it comes to reading drunken gibberish R65

I hope Biden stays in decent health until the election. Yes, he's too old to be president, but so is Trump. I think Biden can comfortably beat him again. I'm less confident about Kamala v. Trump.

[Quote] Whatever, [R73], blahblahblahdeblahblah.

This is what happens when parents don't monitor their 10 year old's computer use.

Hmmmm. Perhaps Dems at the top will convince Biden enough people won't accept a black woman President, and convince her to drop out for "personal reasons"? "Hakeem Jeffries, Mr. Biden on line 1".

I fear next November we will have another Ruth Bader Ginsburg moment. An elderly left wing figure who stayed on for too long and ended up screwing up the progressive cause for generations to come because they can't get out of the way and do the right thing. And anyone who tries to warn of the oncoming car crash gets told to stop being dramatic and overreacting.

R79 Kamala will do just fine as POTUS.

If you want to only focus on Biden’s successes, compare to Johnson having created the Great Society and passing Civil Rights. All that and he still knew the right thing was to get out of the race. Unfortunately for the Democratic Party, he waited far too late. It looks like it may be too late for Biden too. He should have chosen retirement last year and let that “deep bench” someone mentioned fill the spot.

If Joe shits the bed soon I'm betting Bootiejuice(Biden not me) will be the VP on the ticket.

[quote] Kamala will do just fine as POTUS.

That’s not something to joke about like that.

This OP needs to be F&F'd.

The Republicans want to Teddy Kennedy Biden.

It isn't going to happen.

Every incumbent president since LBJ has run for a second term.

Every ex-president since Grover Cleveland, in 1837, has quietly retired and abided by the will of the people once removed from office EXCEPT TRUMP. And Trump incited an insurrection and sedition to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.

Don't hold Biden to BROKEN REPUBLICAN NORMS.

Dark Brandon hasn't begun to campaign.

Wait until the State of the Union next spring. It will rip Republicans a new asshole. Unless Kevin decides to not issue an invitation.

[quote] If Joe shits the bed soon I'm betting Bootiejuice(Biden not me) will be the VP on the ticket.

A vice-president does nothing and Buttigieg has proven he can do that, so perfect.

FF R85 for being a thought fascist.

r87, you are a cunt, as I only posted FACTS. Deal with FACTS.

And I would technically be an Anti-Fascist. No personal thoughts. No personal opinions.

And VP Harris is fully skilled to be president, my opinion.

Encouraging people to FF someone because they posted a perfectly rational concern about a president's mental health is not a personal opinion? I hate thought police like you.

Not as much as we hate dumb fucking cunts like you, R89.

Is thought police the current rage phrase of the day?

Trump is a rapist.

Think about that.

[quote]R89: Encouraging people to FF someone because they posted a perfectly rational concern about a president's mental health

It's not a "perfectly rational concern"; it's far right propaganda coming from Republicans and Russian troll brigades.

You would have thought that all the Borises would have learned after the murder of Prigozhin.

OP is so delusional if he thinks anyone here is going to take the bait. I would argue he's so delusional to thing that a successful party would atempt to compete with itself is only the thought process of a complete outsider, such as....Russian Troll Far.

Sorry Boris, you stupid stunt is silly and has no power here. Also, it's been done before. Time to update the troll farm handbook. You are only about 30 years out of date.

Take what bait, R94? Could you be any dumber? How can you not see that my thread is meant to rebut the postulation that President Biden is a weak candidate in need of a primary challenge? You friggin jackoff. If you had half a brain, you could check my post history and hang your head in shame and embarrassment.

OP/r95:

Take what bait? Question.

Could you be any dumber? Opinion posted as a question.

How can you not see that my thread is meant to rebut the postulation that President Biden is a weak candidate in need of a primary challenge? You did not post a rebuttal to your postulation, another question validated the need for a primary challenge. You reinforced that Biden was weak and in need of a challenger. Whole bundle of opinions.

You frigging jackoff. Pointless ad Hominem opinion.

If you had half a brain...and hang your head in shame and embarrassment. Gurl appears to think highly of herself. UNSUBSTANTIATED opinions.

My conclusion, OP, is that you suffer from Dunning Kruger. You think you are smarter than you actually are.

My deduction, from the information you have provided, is to the contrary.

[quote]You did not post a rebuttal to your postulation, another question validated the need for a primary challenge. You reinforced that Biden was weak and in need of a challenger.

R96 - I'm not the OP, but the guy's second sentence is, "The answer is because we know Joe Biden delivers and these challengers would be soundly defeated in the primaries."

Meh. He "signals" he may only serve one term. He never made any such pledge.

Now, it's clear that we need him to run for a second term and he will oblige us by doing so.

Not all the polling is under water.

Okay, so for all you posters howling about supporting Biden's reelection because he has been successful. Does Joe Biden not look at Dianne Feinstein, Mitchell McConnell, etc and say to himself: "I've done well, let me help the next generation continue the great work I've done," and step out the way?

Do Nancy Pelosi et. all think they inspire 18-24 year olds to show up to the polls?

I understand the point of not primarying a successful president.

I don't get why we can't have a competitive, *exciting* primary, where the old guard can still wield their influence?

Sorry trolls, you're wasting your time.

Joe Biden doesn’t know where he is when he speaks. It’s as bizarre as McConnell. That being said, I’d take a vegetable over Trump any day.

Lol, r104, you aren't fooling anybody.

If Prigozhin is dead, who is paying the Trollski?

[quote] Joe Biden doesn’t know where he is when he speaks

Well, yeah, there’s that, but the hyper-partisans say we must ignore such inconvenient truths.

[quote]Plus he might be a convicted felon before the general election even begins.

We can only hope. If this happens, Trump will be unable to run and we'll all be spared.

[quote]Does Joe Biden not look at Dianne Feinstein, Mitchell McConnell, etc and say to himself: "I've done well, let me help the next generation continue the great work I've done," and step out the way?

Does Donald Trump not look at Mitchell McConnell, etc and say to himself: "I've done well, let me help the next generation continue the great work I've done," and step out the way?

There, fixed it for you.

Trump is only 3 years younger than Biden you moron. He will be the same age as when Biden ran and beat him the first time. You know, when everyone said Biden was too old to win.

Tail of two uncles.

Uncle Joe - He comes over to visit, forgets to close the garage door, turn off the lights and cant remember your partners last name.

The Donald - He moves in with a lot of stuff, beats your dog, sells all your furniture and refuses to leave.

^ I’ve likened Trump’s election to a parent’s decision to welcome a sexual predator into a home with young children. It was never going to end well.

[quote] We can only hope. If this happens, Trump will be unable to run and we'll all be spared.

He can still run. The Supreme Court would have to take up the matter.

Why has the thread on Andrew Sullivan's similar concerns been deleted?

[quote] How can you not see that my thread is meant to rebut the postulation that President Biden is a weak candidate in need of a primary challenge? You friggin jackoff. If you had half a brain, you could check my post history and hang your head in shame and embarrassment.

Well Boris, I have better things to do than check your history. You sure think highly of yourself to imagine people give two FKS. Besides, page on of the Russian Troll handbook is to create a profile that simulates a real user. So checking it is about as dumb as your attempt to divide and conquer the Dems from supporting Biden. It's not going to happen.

[QUOTE] We can only hope. If this happens, Trump will be unable to run and we'll all be spared.

Hope? The Democrats need Trump at the top of the GOP ticket, R108.

[QUOTE] Why has the thread on Andrew Sullivan's similar concerns been deleted?

Because that thread was meant to angry up the blood. They know OP is a Joe Biden supporter. In fact I was on here in 2018 rallying Biden to run when many DLers and the political class were laughing at him.

[quote] They know OP is a Joe Biden supporter.

What does this mean?

[quote]Do Nancy Pelosi et. all think they inspire 18-24 year olds to show up to the polls?

I guess you've not noticed that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE has ever "inspired" 18-24 year-olds to show up to the polls.

That dog just won't hunt.

[Quote] Well Boris, I have better things to do than check your history. You sure think highly of yourself to imagine people give two FKS. Besides, page on of the Russian Troll handbook is to create a profile that simulates a real user. So checking it is about as dumb as your attempt to divide and conquer the Dems from supporting Biden. It's not going to happen.

You might want to check the history of Biden's approval ratings R114

A pompous Russian troll is a delight to watch.

R120 Sarah Palin reporting from Alaska

R119 Approval ratings are NOT VOTES! Only a Russian Troll would not get that. How many female Republicans said they disproved of Trump's "Grab em by the Pussy" type comments and fell right in line and voted for him anyways? Opinion polls don't matter. That's not what turns out the votes.

obviously, you don't like what you see R122 and if they don't matter why are strategists so interested in the numbers? And isn't you Boris/Russian troll nonsense just that?

Strategists are frequently wrong for that very reason. Remember all the strangest on FOX that said Obama was going to lose? Remember all the strangest that said Hillary was going to win? Case Closed.

No, I don't remember that R124. Do you have any links that don't require a colonoscope to view?

I do remember this R124. Obama getting the Kennedy endorsement that Hilary wanted was a huge victory for him in early2008.

Here you go.

Hillary had a 71% chance of winning, per 538. People who still say experts "got it wrong" in 2016 don't understand statistics.

[Quote] Strategists are frequently wrong for that very reason. Remember all the strangest on FOX that said Obama was going to lose? Remember all the strangest that said Hillary was going to win? Case Closed.

Again, any links to support this statement?

R129 See R127

R130 Boris I see what you did. I'm referring to the post @ R124. Back up you what you said regarding the 2008 race between Hilary and Obama.

Try Google R131

PS everyone remembers Trump vs Hilary and the polls may have made the Clinton Campaign overly confident and may have affected voter turnout in 2016

[Quote] Remember all the strangest that said Hillary was going to win? Case Closed.

So, Dick Morris is 'all the strangest' (sic)?

Because on paper he has a very nice record to run on. But his fkin numbers…. The media, the iq of the country…. This mafuckin country is fucked yo. We are past the point of no return. We are fucked. Nothing is based on a real narrative. And all these cunts, powerful cunts are guilty for the demise. Watch and see y’all.

but on video he's confused and lost

Newsome as VP, Joe resigns after the spring of 2025.

Harris as VP, Joe retires after 2026 midterms.

Harris takes Sec Pete as VP. Runs as incumbent in 2028.

No Democratic drama.

Lol, r136, WION???

And how's Hillary doing, after all those debilitating strokes she had on rightwing videos back in 2016?

Actually, R139 it'd the leader of the free world along with assists from his staff and Jill who needs to try harder and keep it together.

Let's cut gramps off before it gets embarrassing

Gramps is unsteady to say nothing of dazed and confused

R140 What about um . . . um . . .you know the thing

and what about um . . .um . . .you know the thing

R139, please try harder to use your words. What is "WION" supposed to mean?

I have no problem with the president. There's nothing wrong with him, he's an old guy. We're fine with him and I think you may be fine with him as well? I can't tell because I have no idea what you're talking about with that "WION" thing.

Biden is [bold]clearly[/bold] in mental decline. Anyone on this thread who is trying to deny it is most likely a paid shill. Biden makes Reagan in his second term look mentally fit. The most powerful country on the face of the earth needs a person in peak mental form in the top spot. Anything less is irresponsible.

Biden is in a mental decline.

Biden is still cognitive to outmaneuver Republicans in passing legislation.

Biden continues to have all American's interests as his base,

Fuck power hungry white evangelical supremacists who want to run America like a pre-civil war plantation.

Fuck them.

Biden as a Futurama head in a jar is better than any Republican.

The presidency is not an athletic position.

The presidency is not a reality show.

The presidency IS REALITY.

R142 - even Peter Doocy had to admit Biden had a legitimate reason to appear tired:

[quote]"He has basically been working all through the night,” Doocy said while reporting from Hanoi, Vietnam, where Biden is meeting with the country’s leaders. “The equivalent of an all-nighter Eastern Time. So, he’s probably pretty tired, pretty jet-lagged.”

As an aide said elsewhere in the Hill article I linked:

[quote]“Here on Earth, we saw the President start his day in India at the G20, end the day in Hanoi with a substantive & detailed 40-minute press conference at 9pm, and continue to answer questions - including from @cnn - as he departed. What will be enough?”

Say...WHAT???

I don’t watch Fox, I don’t listen to Republicans. I don’t need to be told Biden is unable to make a simple speech or exit a stage, I’ve seen it numerous times.

Are you saying he can’t do either of those things, R151?

Way to go Mitt

Isn't it funny how NO ONE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY is getting the message that TRUMP IS TOO OLD!

When I read comments on other forums, all MAGA do is call Mitt a Rhino, Traitor, and a Democrat. They wrote him off long ago and don't want to hear what he as to say about the Republican party. Calling Mitt a Democrat is so off the rails it just shows they have gone so far to the right they have fallen off the edge of their flat earth.

Funny, but when Trump thinks Vankie is too old, why not him?

Aren’t the Dem candidates taking on Joe Biden, i. E. Running against him? Not sure how you think that makes them afraid to take him on.

Anyway, he’s afraid to take them on, he won’t debate them.

Not afraid, totally unnecessary.

Trump has destroyed so many norms.

When people vote you out of office, GO. Don't lie, go.

The Democratic norm that a President runs for a second term. Simple. Why deny Joe because Trump is an asshole?

Simple except he’s frail and senile.

Biden has had a lot of work done. If he looked more ancient as well as acting the way he does, you all might get it more easily.

[QUOTE] Aren’t the Dem candidates taking on Joe Biden, i. E. Running against him? Not sure how you think that makes them afraid to take him on.

Cornell West and RFK “The Jews Created Covid” Jr.? Come on, R157. Give me a break. I wouldn’t lower myself to debating those clowns, either.

There are no SERIOUS challenges to Biden’s nomination because they know they would lose.

Cornell West is not running in the Democratic primary.

I liked it when Pat Paulson ran for President every four years but nobody just runs for laughs anymore. Maybe RFK Jr but he seems pretty humorless.

The president is not going to debate the dregs who have mounted ridiculous campaigns against a successful sitting president. Why give them the PR oxygen that they crave? Why give them attention? No, it's much better for him (and us) that President Biden completely ignores them.

Besides, he's busy being the president and doing a kick ass job of it, too.

President Joe Biden's job approval rating is 19 points underwater, his ratings for handling the economy and immigration are at career lows. A record number of Americans say they've become worse off under his presidency, three-quarters say he's too old for another term and Donald Trump is looking better in retrospect -- all severe challenges for Biden in his reelection campaign ahead.

Forty-four percent of Americans in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say they've gotten worse off financially under Biden's presidency, the most for any president in ABC/Post polls since 1986. Just 37% approve of his job performance, while 56% disapprove. Still fewer approve of Biden's performance on the economy, 30%.

On handling immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border, Biden's rating is even lower, with 23% approval. In terms of intensity of sentiment, 20% strongly approve of his work overall, while 45% strongly disapprove. And the 74% who say he's too old for a second term is up 6 percentage points since May. Views that Trump is too old also are up, but to 50% in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates.

They all remember what happened to Corn Pop.

92 replies before some fool pulls the "boris" card. Datalounge is slipping

Dont compare Joe to the almighty, compare him to the alternative.

VOTE BLUE!!!!

The campaign will not start in earnest until after the next State of the Union address. We can only imagine how a chamber of syphilitic chimp Republicans will treat President Biden.

𝐀𝐁𝐂 𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐬/𝐖𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐭𝐨𝐧 𝐏𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐥

Forty-four percent of Americans in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say they've gotten worse off financially under Biden's presidency, the most for any president in ABC/Post polls since 1986. Just 37% approve of his job performance, while 56% disapprove. Still fewer approve of Biden's performance on the economy, 30%.

On handling immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border, Biden's rating is even lower, with 23% approval. In terms of intensity of sentiment, 20% strongly approve of his work overall, while 45% strongly disapprove. And the 74% who say he's too old for a second term is up 6 percentage points since May. Views that Trump is too old also are up, but to 50%

Trump, for his part, has improved in retrospect. When he reluctantly left office in January 2021, 38% approved of his work as president, essentially the same as Biden's rating now. But currently, looking back, 48% say they approve of Trump's performance when he was in office -- matching his peak as president. Essentially as many -- 49% -- now disapprove, down from 60% when he left the White House.

[quote]The Democratic norm that a President runs for a second term. Simple. Why deny Joe because Trump is an asshole?

This doesn’t make any sense r158. It’s the opposite. It's not “because Trump is an asshole” that the Democratic norm is being questioned, it’s because Joe is increasingly looking like a frail, demented old man whose odds of beating Trump are starting to slip. Capisce?

He's over the hill.

Biden's numbers will go up if the Republicans shut down the government.

They'll go through the fucking roof, R172. Remember how they shot right up for President Clinton when those Rethuglican morons tried that shit?

Please proceed, Rethuglicans.

Republicans shutting down the government again. This needs to be shouted from the roof tops. If you stay quiet, they will turn it into "both" parties suck talking point. It's NOT both parties. Democrats already agreed to the deal, Republicans cant agree on what they want, their house is a mess. That's why it's shutting down.

So R171, put you money where you mouth is, who do you propose would be a better candidate than Biden? Right now? Not some mythical dream fantasy. Who can you name right now who would do a better job as a Democratic nominee that wants the job?

The economy is booming. Wages are up. Inflation is down. Manufacturing is up. Drug prices are down (pharma not weed - weed is about the same). President Biden has led this couontry to the two strongest years of job growth in HISTORY. Unemployment is the lowest it's been in 50 years. Our Allies respect us again we're making progress on everything we care about (other than abortion) and our country is on the right track.

He's senile and has no idea what he's doing? Really? Oh okay, I'll take four more years of exactly the same, please.

That ol' senile dude is fucking killing it as president of the United States. Go Dark Brandon!

[quote] Our Allies respect us again

Because we're paying their war bills and not warning how their policies enabled Putin. As they were.

Nothing more annoying to the UN than a person you dislike accurately pointing out your bad decisions.

And Germany still has learned nothing.

German imports of refined oil products from India soared in the first seven months of the year, official data showed Tuesday (12 September), much of which was likely made using crude oil from sanctions-hit Russia.

Germany bought 451 million euros’ ($480 million) worth of Indian petroleum products between January and July.

That was an increase of more than 1,100% on the €37 million spent over the same period a year earlier, national statistics agency Destatis said.

The 12-fold jump comes after India became a leading buyer of Russian crude in the wake of Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

Aww, sweetcheeks, laughing at Dump is the only thing that's kept us from running him over with a Zamboni.

The lowest unemployment in 50 years. The greatest two years of job growth in the history of this nation. Far more jobs added (13 million) than were replaced after Covid eased up.

GO DARK BRANDON!

Dear Dumbass @ r177, we are in a transitional world economy and enacting laws and policies that should have been put into effect thirty years ago but would have cut into Capitalist Profits. We will all burn to death as rich people afford air conditioning and we cannot.

Everyone, ignore the poster @ R177. He toddled-off early from his minder at the Freeper Retirement Home, and hasn't been given his night meds yet.

Et tu MSNBC ?

"Mighty Joe Biden" cracks me up every time I see it.

R175 Hilary is a comparatively young75.

Me too, R182, that and Dark Brandon totally crack me up. Mostly I love how hard it pisses off the trumptards.

Love me some Hillary Clinton!

She looks good, grandmothering agrees with her and she's had two years to relax post-PsychoDump.

Anyone who thinks Biden is going to be on the ticket is delusional.

Mayor Pete was brown nosing Biden all over Meet The Press yesterday. Another reason I might stay home on Election Day. What is Biden fixing? How many more MILLIONS are we letting in at the border? Don't bother me with your TRUMP comparisons. Trump is either going to be in exile this time next year or in a prison cell. He isn't going to be President in 2024.

[quote] Trump is either going to be in exile this time next year or in a prison cell.

He could be elected from prison. This is not an election to sit out.

[quote]Mayor Pete was brown nosing Biden all over Meet The Press yesterday. Another reason I might stay home on Election Day.

Seems rational.

r187, considering Welker is a perfect Todd replacement, she only went after Republican talking points.

What a cunt.

I saw that live, it did seem like someone from Fox with an agenda was interviewing him more than regular news. Either way, he did a good job answering her questions and making her look like a stupid Fox cunt on MSNBC at the same time.

[quote] Anyone who thinks Biden is going to be on the ticket is delusional.

Well, delusion is never in short supply on DL.

If all you can say about Joe Biden is that he's old, then you've already lost the argument.

You can't attack his policies, because they're putting people back to work.

You can't attack his handling of the economy, because unemployment is at record lows and inflation is falling back to manageable levels.

You can't attack him on family ties, because although his son is a coke overdose waiting to happen, there's zero evidence that the two ever did business together.

You can't attack him on civility or good conduct, because he stays off Twitter and treats people he meets with kindness and decency.

So you're left with age. He's old. That's all you've got. He's not even enfeebled, obese, or emotionally unstable. He's merely old.

They don’t want to set a dangerous precedent. Even though that was already set back in the 70s.

r194, and fuck Teddy Kennedy.

and r193, we elect a President, not an NFL team owner.

Businessmen who understand profit are categorically unable to run a government for the betterment of its citizens. That is why Republicans are all about, cut taxes, cut programs.

Cutting those taxes created a TRICKLE UP creating the Billionaire class for the first time in history.

R195 How drunk are you this morning?

[quote] Cutting those taxes created a TRICKLE UP creating the Billionaire class for the first time in history.

Yes, we’ve never had super wealthy robber barons in this country before now.

I'm trying, and failing, to discern R197's point.

Of course the president will be on the ticket in 2024. Have you completely lost your fucking mind?

Someone at the troll farm isn't dispensing enough medication. Better get that taken care of, Boris.

[quote]Yes, we’ve never had super wealthy robber barons in this country before now.

Robber barons take or steal to become rich, the towns people or country usually don't throw Trillions of dollars at them by choice like the Republcans just did. So there is that.

Russian meds like their vodka is probably watered down, that's why these Trolls are slipping.

As a non American...are u guys nuts and actually think Biden is a good president? What about all the corruption with his sons crooked dealings? 🤔 I'm honestly asking if you guys are bring ironic?

R202 could you possibly be MORE uninformed?

And people say AMERICANS are the idiot parochial lazy unlearned ones.

Nope, R202, none of us will be voting for Hunter Biden for POTUS - not ever!

As for some link between the president and Hunter's drug-induced fuckery - Donald Dump has been trying and failing for years to find any link. The Republicans have tried and tried and failed and failed. There just isn't any there there.

As for President Biden being an excellent president, he is fucking fantastic. Are you a total fucking moron or a dumb cunt troll?

This is not all that he's done in two years but it's a good taste for you:

Here are 23 of Joe Biden’s greatest accomplishments as president of the United States in his first two years.

1. Passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package to increase investment in the national network of bridges and roads, airports, public transport and national broadband internet, as well as waterways and energy systems.

2. Helped get more than 500 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in the arms of Americans through the American Rescue Plan.

3. Stopped a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence by signing the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act that created enhanced background checks, closed the “boyfriend” loophole and provided funds for youth mental health.

4. Made a $369 billion investment in climate change, the largest in American history, through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.

5. Ended the longest war in American history by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.

6. Provided $10,000 to $20,000 in college debt relief to Americans with loans who make under $125,000 a year.

7. Cut child poverty in half through the American Rescue Plan.

8. Capped prescription drug prices at $2,000 per year for seniors on Medicare through the Inflation Reduction Act.

9. Passed the COVID-19 relief deal that provided payments of up to $1,400 to many struggling U.S. citizens while supporting renters and increasing unemployment benefits.

10. Achieved historically low unemployment rates after the pandemic caused them to skyrocket.

11. Imposed a 15% minimum corporate tax on some of the largest corporations in the country, ensuring that they pay their fair share, as part of the historic Inflation Reduction Act.

12. Recommitted America to the global fight against climate change by rejoining the Paris Agreement.

13. Strengthened the NATO alliance in support of Ukraine after the Russian invasion by endorsing the inclusion of world military powers Sweden and Finland.

14. Authorized the assassination of the Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became head of the organization after the death of Osama bin Laden.

15. Gave Medicare the power to negotiate prescription drug prices through the Inflation Reduction Act while also reducing government health spending.

16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions.

17. Boosted the budget of the Internal Revenue Service by nearly $80 billion to reduce tax evasion and increase revenue.

18. Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history.

19. Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan.

20. Signed the PACT Act to address service members’ exposure to burn pits and other toxins.

21. Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation.

22. Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027.

23. Halted all federal executions after the previous administration reinstated them after a 17-year freeze.

[quote] Robber barons take or steal to become rich

True as far as it goes but greatly oversimplified. Doing good for themselves they wound up raising the standard of living for all us us.

While filling their own pockets the robber barons also brought organization, efficiency, and innovation to the economy that permitted America to leap forward into a super economy in a very short time. Carnegie in steel, Huntington in railroads, Melon in aluminum, Rockefeller in POL, Woolworth in consumer goods, Swift in nutrition, etc

We have the LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT WE'VE SEEN IN 50 YEARS.

He's added 13 million jobs, wages are up, inflation is down, manufacturing is up, consumer confidence is up, the American people can breathe which was never possible when Fuckface von Clowstick was sucking Putin's cock every day for four fucking years.

And none of us are voting for Hunter Biden. He's not running for anything that I know of and nobody has evidence linking President Biden to shenanigans of any kind. That's not because they haven't tried. They've been trying forever and they've found no evidence.

R204, Biden and allies touting “accomplishments” is regarded by a large chunk of the electorate as being very tone deaf. People want a mea culpa from the president, to know that he “gets it”. If they see him thinking everything he has done is good, then they’ll know he won’t try to do things differently. He doesn’t consistently have an approval rating in the low forties for no reason.

Tourette Syndrome bulletin at r296

[quote] Doing good for themselves they wound up raising the standard of living for all us us.

Polluted air! Toxic water! Lead poisoning! Rat-infested tenements! Unsafe meat! Watch the standard of living rise faster than the Jonestown flood!

Joe Biden checking in at R208.

R202 where are you from?

R211, he's from St. Petersburg, Moscow, Vladivostock.. like that.

(or possibly Saudi Arabia, Hungary, North Korea, Brazil or Turkey. Look for the brutal dictatorships and that's where you'll find the anti-democracy-anti-Biden posters are from)

Also there are some from England because they enjoy being such total cunts on the extremist right and think they still have a right to interfere in American affairs there.

[Quote] Joe Biden checking in at [R208].

Exactly R210

R105 = Wall street PR firm.

Hey by your logic so were all the kings in history and all the Popes as well, they gave us Christianity and morals. All the Roman emperors including Nero, Tiberius and Caligula, they gave us roads and classical architecture. Heck, so was Hitler, he really organized that country like never before. And lets not get Mussolini, he made the trains run on time!

Pay no attention the to bloodshed and dark things they did, as most robber barons would have said, it's the cost of living.

Correction: ^^R205

I don't see Biden winning next year. I was right about RBG and I am right about this. And NO, Trump is not going to be president either so spare me your accusations of me being GOP. This immigration mess is ridiculous. Food prices are still high (clearly price gouging by corporations). Has ANYONE ever seen a Student Loan Forgiveness Recipient APPRECIATIVE? I paid off my student loans so I'm sure not thrilled about other people getting their freebies.

R216 if not Biden or Trump then who?

r196, not at all.

Trump has turned politics into a reality show. Mark Burnett created the illusion of Trump as a great businessman.

But we elect Presidents and not NFL team owners.

[quote]Carnegie in steel

And in the 70s, Nixon sent the entire steel industry to Asia and created the Rust Belt.

I will vote for Hillary as long as she doesn't put Pete in her cabinet. Not that he wouldn't fit.

I'm disappointed Biden hasn't let 3 MILLION immigrants in a month. But I'm pretty sure that will be happening by X-Mas. Trump is a hateful idiot but at least he tried SOMETHING besides open borders. I am tired of anyone strolling across the border for a free apartment in N.Y.

Hillary is making her move now.

R223 So is Newsom. Thank Goodness. We deserve choices.

Gavin/Buttigieg '28.

R225 Gay Democrat here. I will never vote for Pete. Not in a million years. He does nothing for the gay community, and never has. He cannot get elected in ANY statewide election. There is a reason there isn't a SENATOR Buttigieg. And Newsom has to pick a senator if he wants the White House.

Also Gay Democrat here I will VOTE FOR PETE any time, any day in all ways. He's a brilliant man, he got youth on his side, he's brave and taking on Faux News like like a sport to him. He's done so much for the gay community you would have to be blind to not notice it. Just being an OUT gay man running for president was a gift to us. He broke a lot of stereotypes that general straight society was really holding on to. Even if they hate him the talk isn't about him being gay anymore it's about politics. He's broke the stigma that gay men can only run for office if they remain in the closet.

HI PETE!

I don't think he's too old and I don't think he should be replaced. (As a European I have no vote in this anyway.) it's just funny that he spearheads the faction that generally blames all the woes of the world on old white men. Just look at the alternatives. Pritzger, for real now?

Jimmy Carter is still available.

[QUOTE] Hillary is making her move now.

Yeah, on the toilet, perhaps.

[quote] it's just funny that he spearheads the faction that generally blames all the woes of the world on old white men.

The truth is, Biden was not the prime choice when this started, it was the blacks in the south that loved him for his previous work and spring boarded his campaign. He won 92% of the Black vote in 2020. They basically said, that's who we want if it's anyone else we are staying home and not voting. As 12% of the population is black, if they all did that it would guarantee a lost election. The rest of the Democrats went along because getting any Democrat in the White House was far better than the alternative.

R232 hates that THE BLACKS had the gall to vote, and to derail his lovely Bernie Sanders.

Those dastardly Black people ruined such a good thing, didn't they? How dare they make their own voices heard in the party they dominate?

Joe Biden was the perfect candidate to take on Donald Trump, and African-Americans could sense it. Once again, they saved dumb white Democrats from themselves.

If African-Americans are now showing angst about Joe, then that would be a bad sign.

Blacks are 91% of the people on TV

The View discusses yet another poll. Will Whoopi threaten to leave the US (again) if Donald becomes President?

[quote] Joe Biden was the perfect candidate to take on Donald Trump, and African-Americans could sense it.

Black voters, like white voters, can’t pick anyone they like. They can only select from the names on the ballot. Black voters don’t like Buttigieg or Bernie Sanders, so Biden won by default. There was no strategic thinking about it.

24. Racked up a well-deserved reputation as the worst public communicator of anyone in any elected public office, anywhere.

He can sign all the legislation he wants. But he shouldn’t be President without the ability to make his thoughts clearly known to the American public.

Time to retire, Joe.

Neither Trump nor Biden should be our next President. There's no one in the Repugs smart enough to beat Trump (and no one we'd want anyway), and no one dares take on Joe. So where does that leave us? With the real possibility Kamala will be prez by 2025, and with Repugs taking over in 2028? Lousy choice.

The choice will be Trump or Biden, R239. Suck it up, buttercup, and make a goddamn decision.

There are possible scenarios in which Biden and/or Trump won’t be a candidate on the ballot in a November 2024. If Biden should have a sudden and major physical or mental decline at some point up through next summer, I have to believe a coalition of rational people will cause someone else to be the nominee, and I don’t believe it would be Harris.

[quote]Neither Trump nor Biden should be our next President.

Tough titties, r239.

By next summer? One more BINGO game and even Shady Pines is going to put him in hospice.

Meanwhile, pricks like Josh Hawley and Rhonda Santis are half Joe's age, and nowhere near as competent.

If you think the old fucks are dangerous for America, take a good look at the next generation coming up behind them.

[quote]Meanwhile, pricks like Josh Hawley and Rhonda Santis are half Joe's age, and nowhere near as competent.

They're plenty competent at fucking things up for the average person and funneling dollars to the already-rich.

Well at least Josh Hawley would be something to look at.

[quote] Gay Democrat here I will VOTE FOR PETE any time, any day in all ways.

We respectfully choose otherwise honkey

[QUOTE]If Biden should have a sudden and major physical or mental decline at some point up through next summer,

We’ve had motherfuckers saying this since before he got sworn in, and it hasn’t happened yet.

Anyone who's ever looked at before & after photos of former presidents can tell what the stress of the job does to even healthy individuals, let alone someone in the last years of his life r248.

Meh. The verbally slower President Biden is still a thousand times preferable to insane, incompetent, fascist Hitler-wannabe, fat-fuck stroke waiting to happen any minute now, Donald Dump.

We didn't choose him as the nominee by accident or default, you fucking moron. We chose him for his experience, for his steady, centrist, reasonable, globalist approach to government. Happily, that's exactly what we got so we're very pleased with President Biden.

If you're not, go vote for Fuckface von Clownstick. We're going to crush him so hard he'll think it's Zamboni time.

To the poster who thinks all of President Biden's Jobs are simply replacements for what Covid took out - that's a big fat lie, hun.

President Biden had all the jobs back that were lost to Covid by July 2022. He's been adding jobs and more jobs and more jobs every month since then. Unemployment's the lowest it's been in FIFTY YEARS, so now what? Those jobs don't count? Those people don't count? Are they the wrong color for you, pookie?

Get the fuck out of here, you lying bitch.

Well not everybody wants to be a door dash driver.

Joe's doing great.

Why not, R252? It pays better than many other jobs. And it’s easier and more relaxing than being on your feet all day. I love driving so I wouldn’t mind doing it.

[quote]If Biden should have a sudden and major physical or mental decline at some point up through next summer,

Or more likely Trump suffers a massive heart attack or stroke. Look at his old age, his obesity, diet of fast food and the amount of stress he is probably under with 91 charges against him not counting the 250 million he's going to have to pay based just on today's legal judgment.

[Quote] Kamala will do just fine as POTUS.

NOW THERE'S A LAUGH😆😺😁

I'll take President Biden and VP Harris over Dump and Bunny Lake or Krystal Gnome six days a week and twice on Sunday.

I'd take Biden/Harris over those incompetent cunts in a heartbeat and never look back.

The Lowest Unemployment in Fifty Fucking Years.

Yet R255 Biden had 2 brain surgeries back in 1988 for leaking arteries on both sides of the brain!

[quote]or possibly Saudi Arabia, Hungary, North Korea, Brazil or Turkey. Look for the brutal dictatorships and that's where you'll find the anti-democracy-anti-Biden posters are from)

Excuse me, at least we made Bolsonaro ineligible until 2032!

1988, R258? You mean THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO?

After that he was a very powerful Senator for the next 20 years, from 1988 to 2008. He was then a very successful two-term Vice President of the United States.

I should try a couple of those brain thingies. Seems like they work out pretty well.

If you want to see a party that's ACTUALLY afraid of its own leader, tune in to the GOP presidential debate tonight. You'll see seven assholes very delicately NOT attacking their own frontrunner. They're running to advance some ideas, but not too many. They're pushing to be the nominee, but they're all very okay with the job going to the shithead who's not even on the stage.

The GOP debate is all about who want's be be Trump's VP.

Of course they cant say that out loud. No, no, no I am running for POTUS. Do you really think if any of them were offered the position, they would turn it down?

Go ahead R260 get a couple of those thingies and the scar tissue seems to have worked out well for Joe

[quote] You'll see seven assholes very delicately NOT attacking their own frontrunner

Sort of like the 2020 democratic debate

R264, Democrats attack each other on policies.

Harris was quite biting...I am that little girl.

G'fuck y'sef.

Kammy laughs it off: It was a debate! So disingenuous!

Jesus, such flaccid trolling in this thread.

If old age disqualifies Ja'Biden from having any influence, then why in God's green DICK are we still listening to you old fucks?

Do like you want Joe to do, and go home quietly.

(^.^) Not age dear; cognitive decline. He's struggling.

We're not POTUS, r268.

RFK Jr. to run as Independent:

2024 presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. plans to announce he will run as an independent on October 9 in Pennsylvania, Mediaite has learned.

Kennedy’s campaign machine is now planning “attack ads” against the Democratic National Committee in order to “pave the way” for his announcement in Philadelphia about running as an independent, according to a text reviewed by Mediaite.

Good lord, r269, give it a rest.

The POTUS needs a rest more than I do!

I'm certain he does, r273, given how much he's accomplishing.

RFK jr is going to be Trump's running mate.

R274 with inflation at 17%, thousands of illegal migrants crossing the border, major cities being decimated by homicides and looting including DC, his disastrous pullout from Afghanistan and low approval ratings in virtual every poll what has he done?

Oh RFK Jr, the fucking moron. He's been batshit for years. So he's attempting to become this cycle's Jill Stein? That's just great. When does he shame his entire family by having dinner with Putin in Russia?

President Biden is slower in his speech. Big fucking deal. It's a non-issue, particularly given his outstanding record as POTUS for the past two years. He's killing it and while his speech patterns may have slowed a bit, his effectiveness as POTUS certainly hasn't.

So he talks slower than he used to - meh. I'll take it right along with the great job he's doing. I saw him speak at Gen. Milley's last function as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. I saw him speak at the UAW picket line. There's not a damn thing wrong with President Joseph R. Biden.

The buck stops here.

Two unpopular candidates

[Quote] I'm certain he does, given how much he's accomplishing.

Zelensky has joined the conversation

I wish Britney would run!

What has President Biden done? Are you a braindead idiot or a fucking troll?

Unemployment is the lowest it's been in 50 years.

Wages are up.

Manufacturing is up.

He got millions of vaccines in the arms of Americans.

He ended the Afghanistan War (thank god).

Consumer confidence is up.

Capped Insulin at $35 a month.

Cut a deal to get ten of the most commonly prescribed (and expensive) drugs to negotiate the prices down, just like all the other countries do.

He got the Infrastructure Bill passed and now our roads, bridges and critical infrastructure are being repaired. (Remember every time fuckface von clownstick promised Infrastructure Week? He ended up sitting in a semi at the White House and cosplaying a truckdriver blowing an airhorn while embroled in yet another scandal.)

INFLATION IS DOWN. With President Biden's leadership we have the best post-Covid recovery in the G-8. They all envy us as does the rest of the world.

Our Allies work with us and respect us again, it's not just the world's worst dictators who were the only "friends" we had with Donald Dump.

We're supporting Ukraine and providing crucial help to them in their fight against deadly invasion.

The president expanded benefits and services for our Veterans.

Stuck with the fight against Al Qaeda and killed their leading terrorists.

Issued crucial Executive Orders protecting a woman's reproductive rights when the Rethuglican Supremes took them away.

Historic student debt relief for middle and working class families. (what the Rethuglicans didn't steal)

Ended the stupid fucking war on weed.

The strongest environmental protections we've ever had in our history.

More Americans have health coverage than ever before and millions are paying less for it.

The president signed the most significant gun violence protection act in 30 years.

[quote]President Biden is slower in his speech. So he talks slower than he used to - meh

R277 How can you even tell? Who can hear what he's saying? The man cannot make himself heard, not even with a mic. He has the tremulous, whispery voice of the very old, confused man that he is. His sentences (if you can call them that) fade into the ether before he completes them.

Nor can make himself understood. Who knows what point he's trying to make half the time? He certainly doesn’t seem to. His staff keeps having to walk things back, then he complains about being treated like a child.

He repeats himself, retelling entire anecdotes in the very same speech, seemingly unaware that he just finished the same story, to the same audience. Jesus fuck.

“Is Jackie here? Where's Jackie?” Not only was Rep Jackie Walorski recently deceased, but there was a memorial video for her at that very event. His press secy said, oh, she was on his mind. Is that why he was asking WHERE SHE WAS? This is clear evidence of serious confusion, and rapid cognitive decline.

I disagree, R238, I was listening to the president speak at the UAW picket and I listened to him speaking just this morning at the Milley thing. He's slower in his speeh than he was but he's fine.

You're just a dumb fucking trollcunt trying to attack democracy and put that lunatic and his thugs back in the White House.

The answer is no, we're not having it. We can all see his fantastic list of accomplishments as POTUS and that's what actually counts. F

Sorry about that exta "F" at the end. I must be in a "cognitive decline" or maybe not. Check Susan Collins' concern level.

President Biden isn't going anywhere.

[quote]He's slower in his speeh than he was but he's fine.

Yeah, no he's not. He may be fine for someone's grandad, but he's not fine enough to be leader of the so-called free world, not any more.

… not anymore. ^^^

His own people have to cut off his mic and play him off the stage. That's fine? You’re okay with that?

There's no one else? Getting a bad feeling here that you must actually want that “lunatic and his thugs” back in the WH. Because that's starting to look like a possibility.

[quote][R274] with inflation at 17%, thousands of illegal migrants crossing the border, major cities being decimated by homicides and looting including DC, his disastrous pullout from Afghanistan and low approval ratings in virtual every poll what has he done?

Seek professional help, r276. It's like your brain is stuck on *repeat*.

Tough titties, r279. Those are the two candidates, like it or not.

With President Biden's record of legislative and other accomplishments over the past three years I'm MORE than fine with it.

He's doing a hell of a good job. I don't care that his speech is slower. His mind is on his work and his work product is KILLING IT. Maybe all of our presidents should be over 70 from now on. If they're going to get all that great stuff done the way President Biden has then we should definitely consider it.

His gravely compromised mind and his body are in Delaware, taking naps. His mind is certainly not on “his” work. His administration is doing work. Not him.

[quote]His administration is doing work.

Much of which involves making sure his feeble body doesn’t trip and fall.

The work is getting done, honey. That's all that matters. I'm thrilled with everything President Biden has accomplished.

Here, watch this, pookie. You'll feel so much better about voting for Fuckface von Clownstick and pushing Fox Lies on the Datalounge.

[quote]Who's actually going senile?

Think it's you sweetums r294, if you sincerely believe Biden is cognitively capable at this point.

I absolutely DO think that, pookie! Happily, I have President's fantastic record for the last three years to back up my opinion.

The president is KILLING it, totally fucking killing it. The senile fucker is that Dumpster Fire Rethugican and all of his minions. Did you SEE him melting down and rambling, unable to pronounce words? Dump is senile, it's terribly sad for... really tragic that he's so... it's um.. too bad.

Donald Dump is old and delusional, as well as being a pathological liar and a walking Crime Wave. Moving on.

[quote]if you sincerely believe Biden is cognitively capable at this point.

Lol, you can't negate r282's post.

Why don't we stop playing with the trolls?

Because they've been given too free a hand on the Datalounge and their anti-democracy, anti-Biden lying propaganda bullshit is going to be answered from now until election day and beyond, if necessary, R298.

We're not having it.

[Quote] Seek professional help, It's like your brain is stuck on *repeat*.

R289 Pot meet kettle Pete Repete

[quote] What has President Biden done?

Well he has succeeded in bringing to us $7 gas and similar food prices . That's something I guess.

Yikes !!

R301, do you really believe Biden is responsible for inflation (which in any case is significantly down from a year ago)? You poor thing.

Biden MUST step aside and annoint/mentor a successor. He's struggling cognitively and the only people who want him to run again are those who want him to lose.

We need new candidates from both the Dems and the Repugs. For God sake, give us intelligent choices!

DeSantis on the Real Time. His reception from a blue state audience was somewhat surprising. Maher commented on his boots, Not the whit go-go boots but the one's he wore with a suit on the show.

^^^ white go-go boots

[quote] Biden MUST step aside and annoint/mentor a successor

Hysteron proteron?

I would rather vote for a President that needs a nap than one the needs another CRIMINAL defense attorney.😂

True, r308. But when the nap President’s poll numbers start to crater, and the electorate begins to worry about his cognitive impairment, then the nap incumbent needs to get out of the race, stat, and another candidate needs to run instead.

Oh please R308, the Other Guy does not even have the balls to attend a GOP debate. Pussy, Pussy, Pussy.

Piece in today's Guardian on Biden's age and frailty:

[quote]Unless Joe Biden stands aside, the world must prepare for President Trump 2.0

[quote]Biden has been a good president of the United States. But if he stumbles – physically, mentally or politically – during the gruelling marathon that is a US presidential campaign, and lets Trump back in, that’s the only thing Biden will be remembered for.

In other words, another RBG.

[quote]A second Trump presidency would be a disaster for the US. It would also be a catastrophe for Ukraine, an emergency for Europe and a crisis of the west.

But hey, Biden's WH intern here on DL is happy, so let’s roll the dice ..

British journalists are laughably incompetent commentators on US politics. Even worse than American pundits.

Is there any actual doubt Gavin and his veneers will be the 2024 nominee ?

R282 sounds wonderful but on the ground, people are not satisfied with him as poll after poll indicates.

Whatever happens, President Biden MUST NOT step aside. Those who encourage this course of action are anti-democracy trolls.

Presidential polls this far out are dogshit. Everyone knows that.

The president's record is strong. We can run on it and win. That's why all of these Chicken Littles are going around screeching that the sky is falling, the sky is falling! It's right wing propaganda. Ignore it or counter it, don't be stupid and fall for it.

This is "Hillary is sick and having seizures!" for 2024. Don't be fucking stupid.

calm down R315 316 You sound desperate like you're trying to convince yourself. Joe is old and frail and confused and unpopular. Face facts.

[quote]Whatever happens, President Biden MUST NOT step aside. Those who encourage this course of action are anti-democracy trolls.

Oh shit, we forgot we elected you king of the Democratic Party, r315. A thousand apologies.

Stop feeding the trolls. Let them die...alone and attention-starved.

[quote]Stop feeding the trolls. Let them die...alone and attention-starved.

But FF them first.

Yeah, let's FF them! Democracy in action. Shut down those who have a different perspective. Such power these Ders hiding in anonymity have!

Bless your heart, r321.

That's your 42nd trolling post in this thread, r321.

Does anyone know the exact name of the fallacy that R321 is using? It's a kind of ad hominem, but there might be a more specific term for it—when you ignore a person's actual arguments and accuse them of merely disagreeing with you. (Very convenient for both-sides type claims.)

So! Is there a limit? R323? btw I assume you don't like what I'm posting otherwise you probably wouldn't give a fuck! The Jessica Walter eye-roll has become tiresome. Do you have anything relevant to add to the discussion?

Why do interesting theads almost always include these sidebars of two queens pissing on each other? Why don't the two of you just go away and let the adults talk.

👍It's DL that's why.

[Quote] Does anyone know the exact name of the fallacy that [R321] is using? It's a kind of ad hominem, but there might be a more specific term for it—when you ignore a person's actual arguments and accuse them of merely disagreeing with you. (Very convenient for both-sides type claims.)

No R321 but have you ever heard of The pot calling the kettle black?

But...

It seems Newsom is standing in the shadows; he's going to debate DeSantis

He ought to try restrictions on migration!

[quote] Biden is crumbling! Biden is 1000 years old! Biden is senile blahblahblah blahblah.

This bullshit is just this year's "Hillary is losing it! Hillary has a brain disorder! blahblahblah"

You guys are really fucking stale.

Meanwhile, the president is fine. He sends his love and hopes Donald is feeling better.

Bless your heart Pete Repete @R332 How many times have you posted that but why here?

Near the end of Joe's first year this was forecast.

It's fun that you're so frightened of the president that you bother to post all this stupid bullshit.

You poor thing, isn't it break time yet?

Yes, Democrats and progressives who want to hold the White House are 𝘧𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵. Republican trolls on the other hand have good reason in the polls to want hm to stay in the race.

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Of course, R336, I take most of my political decisions based on the thoughts and feelings of left wing British newspaper columnists.

We need the president for all of the same reasons we needed him three years ago. He's a centrist, he's deeply experienced in the ways of Congress and able to get things done. He's proven very able to do that as POTUS. Our allies and friends around the world like and work with him and our enemies around the world aren't his friends. He still puts together the right coalition to defeat Dump. We don't need that less now.

The president is the same man we elected such a short time ago. He's doing a great job and we're sticking with him.

[Quote]The president is the same man we elected such a short time ago. He's doing a great job and we're sticking with him.

Spokesperson for basement dwelling INCELs

[quote] President Biden called the measure’s passage “good news for the American people.” But, he added, “I want to be clear: we should never have been in this position in the first place. Just a few months ago, Speaker McCarthy and I reached a budget agreement to avoid precisely this type of manufactured crisis.”

. . .

[quote] Biden and other Democrats were convinced Republicans would pay a political price for any shutdown, and many GOP lawmakers privately agreed.

You know, for someone who is allegedly a doddering, old fool and purportedly incapable of stringing together even a few words to form a coherent sentence, he sure is able to get a lot accomplished on his watch.

Did you read the headline R340 CONGRESS Averts . . .?

[quote]Of course, [R336], I take most of my political decisions based on the thoughts and feelings of left wing British newspaper columnists.

Upthread, someone slammed as “right-wing” Newsweek's piece on Democratic voters who are seriously concerned about Biden's cognitive decline. R336 quotes a piece expressing similar concerns from the perspective of the U.K. and other European allies, and r338 dismisses it as left wing.

How about the centrist Atlantic magazine? Here's The Atlantic:

[quote]Step Aside, Joe Biden. The president has no business running for office at age 80.

Robert Reich said the same thing earlier this year.

Left, right, and center, our political press, former officials, and other respected analysts are reflecting what we can see with our own eyes about Biden's age-related cognitive decline. Someone else needs to run.

[quote] have you ever heard of The pot calling the kettle black?

R328, if you're referring to my last sentence ("Very convenient for both-sides type claims"), you might want to consider that I'm talking about the advantage of a rhetorical tactic for an argument, not making an ad hominem appeal.

[quote] Left, right, and center, our political press, former officials, and other respected analysts are reflecting what we can see with our own eyes about Biden's age-related cognitive decline. Someone else needs to run.

Trying to talk sense on datalounge is one of the most futile endeavors known to man

I am not thrilled with Biden running again. However, Americans would do well to look at the president less as the super buddy they want to look up to and more as an administration that sets the direction for the country. Had we looked at issues and solutions over popularity, we would be in a much better place as a country.

[quote] Americans would do well to look at the president less as the super buddy they want to look up to and more as an administration that sets the direction for the country.

That's pretty much as it was until 1960 when JFK and Sam Giancana stole Illinois

Time to vote to give Democrats a super majority in the Senate and start the process to get rid if the Electoral College .

R345 Pretty sure it's the issues and solutions (or lack thereof) that is at the root of Biden's unpopularity.

[quote]However, Americans would do well to look at the president less as the super buddy they want to look up to and more as an administration that sets the direction for the country.

Two-thirds of the people say the country is going in the wrong direction. The Republicans would be happy if you could firmly tie setting the direction for the country to the Biden administration.

I don’t like the direction of the country either. That doesn’t mean I want Orange Julius Trump to take the reins and make shit even worse for different reasons! This will be a contest between Biden and Trump, not some perfect mystery candidate who reflects the aspirations of all Americans right and left—which is what respondents compare Biden to when asked those loaded poll questions.

One candidate will probably be gone a year from now. It's coming.

Wonder if it really will be a contest between Biden and Trump? If Biden is going to continue sliding in the polls it would be stupid to run him, plus he's certainly far from being "mighty Joe Biden" right now, even if the Dem-leaning side of mainstream media tries not to show the evidence.

Biden and Biden policies need to prevail.

2024 is not about Biden, it is about control of the Senate where all change emanates.

What are "Biden policies"?

(^.^} perhaps more to the point: What are his administrations border policies.

Over 1,500 illegal immigrants arrived in Eagle Pass, Texas in a matter of hours.

[Quote] it is about control of the Senate where all change emanates.

and control of the border

Build Back Better, Finish the Job.

[quote]What are "Biden policies"?

See R204.

The NYT has another excellent article today explaining why our immigration system is broken and why it is unlikely to get better (hint: Congress and the American people benefit from complaining but changing nothing). But people like r355/r356 will trot out their ignorance, blaming Biden for things he has no power to influence or change. You may as well blame him for hurricane season,

R359 maybe he should address it as the polls indicate the economy, crime and the border are the issues voters are concerned with. It not just posters on DL.

[quote]even if the Dem-leaning side of mainstream media tries not to show the evidence.

Lol, r352, bless your heart.

and where is the border Czar BTW The number of illegals and asylum seekers crossing the southern border have never been higher,

American Insider, r355? How transparent of you.

I'm not here to argue with you R363🙋‍♀️🥱🙋‍♂️🥱

Hochul flip-flops on immigration: Border is 'too open'

Gov. Kathy Hochul (D-NY) said Sunday the border is “too open” and that all the migrants coming to her state pose a “real problem.”

On CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday, Hochul called for stricter border measures and worried about the number of illegal migrants who have been coming across the border and settling in New York

“I want them to have a limit on who can come across the border. It is too open right now," Hochul said. "People coming from all over the world are finding their way through, simply saying they need asylum. And the majority of them seem to be ending up in the streets of New York."

She continued by saying that it has become “a real problem for New York City” and something needs to change.

“We are one of the most diverse places on earth because of our welcoming nature, and it's in our DNA to welcome immigrants,” Hochul said. “But there has to be some limits in place, and Congress has to put more controls at the border.”

She is not the only New Yorker who has called for stricter border measures. Democratic New York City Mayor Eric Adams has also urged Congress and President Joe Biden to do something about the border, saying they can’t handle all the migrants coming into his city. “Let me tell you something, New Yorkers, never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see an ending to — I don’t see an ending to this,” the mayor said about illegal immigrants coming to New York City. “This issue will destroy New York City.”

Washington Examiner, r364? You sure do like your right wing rags.

The thought-control police have arrived. Did or didn’t NY Gov Hochul & NYC Mayor Adams say what they’re quoted as saying, r365? A quote's a quote, no matter what outlet it comes from. It’s a simple factual issue.

I only higher the BEST PEOPLE.! You will get tired of winning, because I like the best and only higher the best.

Will the REAL CRIME FAMILY please stand up!

Two-thirds would like someone other than Biden but respondents say he is best placed among declared candidates to beat Trump

Biden’s own poll numbers remain stubbornly low. In the new poll from CNN and SSRS, the president’s approval rating was just 39%. Nearly 60% of respondents said they thought Biden’s policies had made economic conditions worse, while 76% said they were seriously concerned that, at 80, the president was too old to serve a full term if re-elected.

Oh look, The Guardian again, more opinions from across a great ocean from a country that still believes in supporting a powerless Monarchy.

Oh look over there!

Oh, look the NY Times!

President Joe Biden's job approval rating is 19 points underwater, his ratings for handling the economy and immigration are at career lows.

Trump Tries To Pin The Blame On Banks For Him Committing Fraud

Meh. Polls this far out from the election are dogshit and we all know it. The fact remains that Dump must be defeated. President Biden has a fantastic record as POTUS and he is in the best position to beat Dump. We'll stick with him.

Try the polls a year from now, see what the numbers are then, hunny bunny. All this sturm und drang and pearl-clutching this early in the game is just silliness and right wing propaganda.

Oh, Trump was so much better, or not.

^ January 18, 2021 post January 6th. Is this what's supposed to make Biden look good?

If you want to compare apples to apples when they both served in office it's completely relevant. If you just want to cherry pick negative write ups about Biden then stop wasting our time.

"Donald Trump leaves office with worst job approval rating in history"

[quote] One candidate will probably be gone a year from now. It's coming.

I agree.

[Quote] If you want to compare apples to apples when they both served in office it's completely relevant. If you just want to cherry pick negative write ups about Biden then stop wasting our time.

Can't you cherry pick and find positive write ups about Biden's chances for reelection R380 and how great he's doing in the polls?

He doesn't wipe.

Polls are like assholes, everyone's got one.

50% of Americans don't even vote regularly. That's why polls are unreliable. What people say vs what they will do are 2 different things.

R361 I think you missed the point. I meant the left-leaning media such as MSNBC. As opposed to the right-leaning media, like Fox, which will show Biden's gaffes and wandering off stage, and so forth. Bless your heart, as well. Bitch.

To move on from toilet tissue on a shoe:

Sample Dates: September 17-20, 2023

Margin of Error: ± 3 percentage points, 95% of the time, on questions where opinion is evenly split.

Question Wording and Order:

Do you approve or disapprove of the way Joe Biden is handling his job as president?

Do you approve or disapprove of the way Joe Biden is handling the economy?

How do you rate the condition of the national economy these days - would you say it is excellent, very good, good, bad, very bad, or terrible?

Do you think the national economy is getting better, staying the same, or getting worse?

Would you say that the national economy is in a recession, or not?

A year from now, do you expect the national economy to be better than it is today, the same as it is today, or worse than it is today?

How do you rate the condition of the financial situation in your household - would you say it is excellent, very good, good, bad, very bad, or terrible?

Do you think the financial situation in your household is getting better, staying the same, or getting worse?

A year from now, do you expect the financial situation in your household to be better than it is today, the same as it is today, or worse than it is today?

R385, Let me repeat because you didn't get it the first time. [bold]Polls are like assholes, everyone's go one.

^^[bold]everyone's got one

Moving on from polls and the poll Troll, lets get back to the original question: “Why isn’t a mainstream Democrat challenging the president?

Because he's the best man for the job. He's already proven he can beat Trump in an election. And not just any election, he won when almost no president in modern history lost his second term except Bush. That's a much harder challenge and Biden wiped the floor with Trump.

True, R388, he's the same man we elected three years ago. He's done a great job. He'll beat Trump again, that's why the push is on from the right wing to find any way they can to get rid of him.

They've been trying this shit every which way they can since 2008 and in earnest since 2016. They have always been afraid of Joe Biden. This time it seems worse than ever. They're not stupid, sort of. They know he's going to crush Trump in the general and possibly worse.

All this fuckery in the House, it's not helping them in the Senate races for 2024. All the Republicans look bad because of their batshit behavior.

Been reading posts from other sites, MAGA is also very delusional, I mean more than normal. They think if RFK can run as an Independent, it will split the Democrats and Trump will win by a landslide. So they are pushing him as the next best thing.

The problem with their delusional theory is that I dont know a single Democrat personally or public figure that has said "yeah, I am giving up on Joe and going with a wackadoodle inexperienced conspiracy theorist" just because his name had Kennedy in it. That legacy is long gone. Even his own family does not support him.

If anything, it will split the Republican ticket with disaffected Republicans and Independants who cant bring themselves to vote for a Democrat but want something different besides Trump.

[quote] "Donald Trump leaves office with worst job approval rating in history"

Records are made to be broken

Biden will wipe the floor with Donald Dump. Again.

R391 [bold]Polls are like assholes, everyone's got one.

Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.) is stepping down from his role in House Democratic leadership after floating a primary challenge to President Biden.

Phillips, a three-term moderate from the Minneapolis suburbs, began publicly floating a primary challenge against Biden in July and refused to rule out the prospect as recently as last week.

I'd be afraid if Biden was the driver and i was the passenger. And no, I wouldn't get in a car with Trump, because...farts!

Trump would be more than just farts, you would have to listen to his long winded rants, grievances, old talking points from 2016, and how rich he is. Did you know he's rich? He's really really rich.

You call Uber, they only have two drivers, uncle Jo who's a little slow, does not remember the name of some of the streets or Trump with his farts, rants and conspiracy theories. The ride will be two hours long, you cant walk, you cant take a bus, you have to get in the car, now who do you pick?

I pick Biden.

R389 no, he's not the same man that ran three years ago. That’s what everyone, everyone, is saying, and the tiny DL cheering section plugs its ears and goes la la la, can't hear you.

Agree with r390, that RFK is a spoiler for the Rs, not the Ds.

Nevertheless, the US needs a competent leader and Ds need a strong candidate. Biden needs to withdraw.

R396 I'd call Lyft.

(^.^) does Lyft = RFK Jr?

R396, make sure Tony Ornato is close to change his diaper.

Matt Gaetz on the House floor today: “It is going to be difficult for my Republican friends to keep calling President Biden feeble while he continues to take Speaker McCarthy’s lunch money in every negotiation."

I'm very much looking forward to Biden taking Speaker Gaetz's lunch money in every negotiation (if Gaetz makes it through the vote).

Oh my god, Nestor's "dad" said something I didn't despise. I need a cup of gin.

[quote]and the tiny DL cheering section

Lol, r397, "tiny"? Hon, *you're* the minority...and a trolling one at that.

Even Ted Kennedy could never get on a ticket. Just ask Jimmy Carter.

[quote] Even Ted Kennedy could never get on a ticket. Just ask Jimmy Carter.

Or the Chappaquiddick PD

[quote] Moving on from polls and the poll Troll, lets get back to the original question: “Why isn’t a mainstream Democrat challenging the president?

What would be the point of a mainstream Democrat challenging the president? The President is a mainstream Democrat. What would they challenge him on?

The only point would be if the challenger differs significantly in their views.

Because the Democratic Party has no desire to shoot themselves in the dick.

Go figure, lying sack propaganda trollcunt.

Anyone who is calling for Biden to step down is a Troll because everyone knows it's not going to happen. It's trolling to plant dissent and apathy. Classic Troll Farm technique.

It's the same with RFK. Repugs keep posting on Democratic leaning boards saying "I am switching to RFK" hoping enough Democrats agree with him that he splits the ticket. Except no Democrat public or private I know has said they would even remotely consider that. Most Democrats are pretty happy with how Biden turned out. It's all propaganda. It will actually have the opposite effect.

[quote] Except no Democrat public or private I know has said they would even remotely consider that.

Pauline Kael's bubble lives !

Democrats In Array (I mean that in a good way).

[quote]Anyone who is calling for Biden to step down is a Troll because everyone knows it's not going to happen. It's trolling to plant dissent and apathy. Classic Troll Farm technique.

The more obvious reason is to set up an "I told you so" situation, since you are correct that the Democrats won't take corrective action no matter how bad things become.

[quote] the Democrats won't take corrective action no matter how bad things become

Given that things have gotten much better during the Biden years—and because of his experience and canniness—this is rightwing fantasizing. They push this discourse harder the more hapless and disordered the Republicans in Congress get.

Did you see their shit-show today? Matty-matt-matt was forced to file his stupid motion to vacate or whatever they call it (fire his own damn Speaker).

The Democrats will save McCarthy's ass (again). Gaetz will lose and all the Republicans will be humiliated. Matty doesn't have the votes.

Someone send Minority Leader Jeffries and former Speaker Pelosi a case of ice cream. These Republican bitches have completely lost their shit. Plus they've got Fuckface von Clownstick jumping up and down screaming at them from the sidelines whenever he gets out of his trial.

Vote for these clowns? No fucking thank you. Let RFK peel loony voters off of Dump. He's crazy so that checks out with MAGATs, they think they're "sticking it to the Libs" by voting for him.

I wonder if Putin pays him directly or if it's more discreet than that?

Back to Biden: Opinions vary Hope this doesn't set off cellar dwellers

R416 [bold]Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.

No, R416, you're a troll and a lousy on at that. Your posts are all bullshit all the time.

We'll just have to be louder.

[Quote] Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.

So you keep saying Pete Repete and not all assholes are alike either R417 which seems to bother you.

R418 R419 Pot meet kettle

It's disingenuous to blame Biden's poll numbers on ageism and cynicism. He's been polling low for many reasons including the economy and the border and the feeling that adults and registered voters are not satisfied with the job he's doing. The Gallup Poll, NBC News, Mommouth University, Wall Street Journal, CNN, Quinnipiac University . . .polled adults and registered voters on a variety of questions not based on age.

R422, [bold]Polls are like assholes, everyone's got one.

We're all better off with the Democrats. These Republican clowns took ages to get a Speaker and now they've gone and thrown him out.

They can't lead and they can't govern. Just ignore them and stick with the Democrats. That includes President Biden in the next election, we all know that Donald the idiot is a chaos agent.

(^.^) take a nap Joe

R423 since you love repetition

Trump does not even know the Verst Lady is standing right next to him. Where's Milania? Wish she could be here.

Here again Pete Repete

Hold my hand you big strong man, I's scared. Got bone spurs you know.😂😂😂

R423 Sound familiar?

Trump does not look well.

R427 R429 already seen those above. Got anything new or current?

[bold]Trumps makeup malfunction.

The Washington Times? LOL Why not just post something from Faux Noise, GB Noise, and Noisemax, Sparky?

He can repeat stories all day, I don't give a shit. His record is all I'm interested in. That and the fact that he can beat the shit out of Donald "GAG ORDER" Dump at the ballot box.

[Quote] He can repeat stories all day, I don't give a shit. His record is all I'm interested in. That and the fact that he can beat the shit out of Donald "GAG ORDER" Dump at the ballot box.

Then why are you her on DL trying to prove it? Me thinks the lady doth protest too much!

^here on DL Professor Biden? President’s Claim of Former Academia Scrutinized “Late-Stage Dementia Patient or Serial Liar?”

His exit from the leadership role comes amid growing scrutiny of the president’s age. At 80 years old, Biden is the oldest president in American history, and if reelected, he would be 86 when ending his second term.

Meh. I'll pay more attention to the President's record than I ever will to CNN and the Washington Times.

And I remember Donald Dump's record all too well. We're not going back to the chaos agent. He's out of his fucking mind, just like you, honey.

And when - when you dive into the big questions around the economy, we know President Biden has been out there trying to make the case, unemployment is low, he's been talking about how inflation has been easing, but people aren't buying it. You covered some of the reasons why. Gas prices, food prices, grocery prices and the like. Right now, on the big picture in the economy, 74 percent of the country, that's about three-quarters of Americans who say the economy is either not so good or downright poor.

(^.^) R438 I guess many Americans don't concern themselves with www.whitehouse.gov or agree.

Meh. Dumb polls more than a year out from the election. They're dogshit.

We have the lowest unemployment in 50 years. Wages are up. Manufacturing is up. Consumer confidence is up. Gas prices are down. Inflation is down (the lowest of any country in the G-8). Our recovery post-Covid is the envy of every country in the world. Medicare can finally negotiate our drug prices. Insulin is already capped at $35 a month. Infrastructure was actually passed under President Biden and those programs are already rolling, our roads and bridges are being repaired. Our NATO allies and friends around the world respect and work with us again. The disgusting dictators Dump was so friendly with aren't welcome here anymore. The president protected the reproductive rights of women in this country after the Rethuglicans and the corrupt and idiotic Supremes let Americans down and tried to take us back to the 1950's.

I could go on but you're not actually interested in knowing how well the president is doing for Americans. You want Dump back sucking Putin's dick every day, destroying our country and the entire world. You want chaos and destruction and white supremacy. That's why everyone hates you, honey.

I like how the image preview of r441's link shows Harris as the face of the Biden-Harris White House. I still expect the GOP to increasingly use Kamala "Border Czar" Harris as the face of the administration.

Yes, R442, it's so good to see VP Harris out there in front. When President Biden was VP, President Obama often put him front and center. It's good to see President Biden doing the same thing. Our VP's don't get enough attention or credit for the things that they do.

Unless you're just being a little bitch who can't stand seeing a powerful black woman as an example of American strength. If you're that kind of dumb cunt then I can see why you wouldn't like the President's choice here.

I'm concerned...

Oh my...

R444 which still doesn't make Biden seem any less confused, lost, aged or prone to falling. It's not either or.

Oh my...

Oh my...

Faux Noise is concerned...

Joe gives a shout out

An old clip of President Joe Biden making racist comments about Indians has resurfaced recently in light of the Indian Prime Minister’s visit to the White House.

Biden can be quoted as saying in 2006, “you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

Uh-huh, sure thing Jan, R451.

Biden has a long history of gaffes

Dump's a disgusting racist. Well he gets it from his father, Fred Dump marched with the Klan and was arrested for it.

Dump is so grotesque.

Swalwell nailed Dump again.

You ain't black if you don't vote for me (boy)

The POTUS on the world stage

Oh no!

R455 How's Trump doing in the polls btw?

Oh my...

Tsk.. tsk.. tsk..

Maybe Trump needs more proactive handlers

My goodness...

Biden Introduces People Who Aren’t There During Confused Disabilities Act Speech

Just for a slight change of pace...

Just follow the orders Joe.

Aww.. the poor man is completely out of his mind...

Tsk.. tsk.. tsk..

They had to do something after he lost the election and couldn't be trusted.

Block R467 R468 and so much repetitive nonsense is gone. Bye Trollina! Nothing you posted makes Biden look better! Sorry! 🙋‍♀️🙋‍♂️ or Demonstrates why the Dems shou;dn't be concerned. Have a nice night!

Oh.. so Faux Noise knows perfectly well that Dump's unfit, just like you do, Trolly.

Everyone's worried about the crazy and unfit Dump starting a nuclear war.

The Mooch speaks on Dump's mental decline...

While it would be preferable to have a younger Democrat for presidential candidate for 2024, it would be a terrible move, since a loss for the White House would mean Trump will become president for a second term.

Exactly R474. Your choice is steak or turkey. There is no chicken on the menu. If you don't make a choice of the two, the waiter will make it for you.

Might an independent candidate be considered the chicken in your analogy R475 ?

RFK Jr won’t even make the ballot in some states, R476. He’s a clown.

[quote] Your choice is steak or turkey. There is no chicken on the menu. If you don't make a choice of the two, the waiter will make it for you.

Except it won’t be a choice of only two. When in our lifetime has there ever been only the Democratic and Republican candidates on the presidential election ballot?

R477 but there are a number of people who see Trump and/or Biden as clowns!

Always, R478. One Republican. One Democrat.

The official nominees of their respective parties are the only two worth voting for at this time in America. Anyone else is just throwing your vote away, which of course is your right.

I knew someone who used to vote for Pat Paulson every four years. That sort of thing is perfectly fine.

Voting for RFK jr is like voting for Jill Stein or Ralph Nader. Completely meaningless and useless.

Besides, all of his "me too's" will come crawling out of the woodwork and he'll be toast.

[quote] The Democrats will save McCarthy's ass (again). Gaetz will lose and all the Republicans will be humiliated. Matty doesn't have the votes.

Typically insightful DL post.

[quote]Your choice is steak or turkey. There is no chicken on the menu

Then there's another joint next door to order from. Plenty of younger, able Democratic leaders whose turn is now. In a democracy, the choices shouldn’t be limited by rigid party assumptions—we’re not in ordinary circumstances.

More like Tofu R476.

A filler, something everyone says is good for you but no one really wants all by itself.

That joint next door r482 is call Russia and China. There is no Chinese food on the menu today. You are in an American restaurant. That waiter is standing by, she doesn't have all day. Steak or Turkey, what will it be Hun? Sorry, no chicken today, too young to be slaughtered.

For the posters still tediously raising Biden's age and fretting over his diminished capacities:

[quote]McCarthy mocked Biden’s age and mental acuity in public, while privately telling allies that he found the president sharp and substantive in their conversations

It's all bad-faith rightwing propaganda, and you're either falling for it or knowingly spreading it.

Biden's cognitive faculties are significantly better than Trump's, and he is much better physically. So if Biden age 80 is a big factor in the election, then Trump at age 77 should be as well.

Reality bites

[quote]Carville and Maher discussed the election season on the Sunday edition of Maher’s podcast Club Random.

[quote]“Let’s assume the election was November the third of this year and the candidates are Joe Biden, the Democrat, Donald Trump, Republican Joe Manchin and Larry Hogan, No Labels, and Cornel West. Trump would be a betting favorite. And so somebody better wake the fuck up,” Carville said.

The Hamas attack started at 6:30 am Israeli time Saturday morning—that's 11:30 pm Eastern time on Friday night. Biden's address says he “started 7:30, eight o'clock this morning” making calls and whatever. Eleven hours after the attack on Israel started.

Another gaffe. Makes it look like Biden's people let Sleepy Joe stay tucked in all night long, while news outlets and the world, were responding. Weak.

"If it's a Biden and Trump race, I would vote for Biden even if he was dead. And I'm a Republican." -A Pennsylvania voter to Meet the Press host Kristen Welker.

Me too, r490. But the currents odds aren’t with us.

[quote] Makes it look like Biden's people let Sleepy Joe stay tucked in all night long

Bad luck for Israel there was a Matlock marathon nobody dared interrupt

[Quote] "If it's a Biden and Trump race, I would vote for Biden even if he was dead. And I'm a Republican." -

Did she also say she was leaving the country if Trump was re elected?

Bill Maher predicts Biden will win.

As long as Biden surrounds himself with right minded people in his cabinet, Biden will be fine.

[quote]As long as Biden surrounds himself with right minded people in his cabinet, Biden will be fine.

How will he know r495?

[quote] Bill Maher predicts Biden will win.

According to datalounge Maher is always wrong

Not sure if Biden will get railroad workers' votes now

Bill Maher has basically been living his own bubble for at least 5 years now. He's not someone I would go to for any objective opinion.

I posted that Bill Maher clip because it just show how he talks out of both sides of his mouth. First it's Biden is too old and should step down, then it's Biden will win, then it's Biden will lose like Ginsberg.

Bill Maher is proof people stay around too long, should have retired while he was ahead.

Maher needs to be beaten with a fire hose. With rocks in it.

[Quote] I posted that Bill Maher clip because it just show how he talks out of both sides of his mouth. First it's Biden is too old and should step down, then it's Biden will win, then it's Biden will lose like Ginsberg.

You need to rewatch the videos. btw Ginsberg was on the Supreme Court from 1993 till her death. What did she lose? and that's not what Maher said.

What are you talking about wacko? The comment about Ginsberg that Bill is trying to make is she held her job too long. Because of that, her replacement was done by a Republican instead of retiring early so a Democrat could replace her with someone normal. I disagree but his point is Biden is going to cause the same problem.

We're sticking with Biden. He has a great record as POTUS, a legendary record of public service for his entire life, he's in much better shape than Fuckface von Clownstick.

While Biden is not perfect, he'll still beat Fuckface for essentially the same reasons that he beat him in 2020 and that's all we need.

Right wing propagandists running around like Chicken Little "the sky is falling!" can shut the fuck up. We're sticking with the president.

HI JILL!

That doesn’t bode well for the future when people say that Biden is literally the only person in the party who could beat the Republicans.

No, honey, that's not what I said. I said - quite specifically - that he's the man who can and will beat Fuckface von Clownstick right now.

Depending on how all of his 91 felony counts (so far) and four indictments progress, it may be the case that just about anybody can beat Fuckface von Clownstick. Right now, we'll stick with the safe option, the sane option and the man who will beat Fuckface.

Well R507, talk is cheap, Biden has PROVEN his ability to beat trump. I like winners. OK.

and Trump proved his ability to beat Hilary. Biden won but now that he's 21/2 years into the job he has a high disapproval rating and appears more confused than ever. That he will win again is not really certain. OK

And Trump will be running on his record AGAIN.

The economy might factor into that record and currently the economy is one of the issues that most concerns current voters.

I think Joe unconsciously confessed to drowning his biting dog

(^.^) and people take issue with Bidenomics

We have the LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT IN 50 FUCKING YEARS.

Wages are up. Manufacturing is up. Consumer confidence is up. Our Allies trust us again and the dictators of the world are no longer welcome here. Inflation is down. Gas prices are down.

We have the strongest and fastest recovery from Covid in the G-8.

Meanwhile, Fuckface von Clownstick has [bold] 91 Felony charges in four separate jurisdictions and we haven't even gotten to Michigan yet. He's also been found liable for sexually abusing a woman in a department store.

The American people are often quite stupid but we proved in 2020 that we can at least temporarily rise above that. We will do the same thing in 2024. We have the same two guys and it will end exactly the same way. President Biden will win - BIGLY. Fuckface von Clownstick will pretend he won, tell a bunch of Big Lies and throw a huge tantrum. Poor widdle diddums.

President Biden will be re-elected.

Oh shit. I left the bold on the whole rest of my post and left it open in the thread.

My bad. [/bold]

Keep saying that Pete Repete and you might convince yourself.

[quote] and left it open in the thread.

No longer possible, as you can see. That particular problem was fixed years ago.

Scream louder R515 the people who responded to the poll cited at R514 didn't hear you!

No, I can't see that it's no longer possible. I assumed that it was and went right in and turned it off before anyone else posted to the thread.

However, if they actually fixed something around here that's great. I certainly never expect them to fix anything on the Datalounge. I'm used to it. Thanks for letting know though.

[quote]and Trump proved his ability to beat Hilary.

Hillary is a woman, you are bragging that a big fat man can beat a woman? [bold] I like MEN who can win man to man. Go Biden!

And there's your liberal feminist. Now talk about unions. Workers rights. Protecting the environment while you place your Amazon order.

[quote]And there's your liberal feminist. Now talk about unions.

I would but there are so many Republicans crawling up my cunt.

I have a bad case of Tuberville of the Cervix

The article at R512 is from February 2020. Some of those 61% may have rethought their position in the following months.

I still think that Gavin Newsom is a potential Plan B.

I think Gavin said he would not run even if Biden stepped down. His plan is probably 2028. Maybe by then Trump will kick the bucket or drown in his overflowing diapers and MAGA will crawl back into the the holes they came out of.

[quote] We have the LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT IN 50 FUCKING YEARS.

50 fucking years ago we didn't have people sleeping under every bridge, and people could afford gas, bread, and rent.

No we had shanti towns and people living in slums.

^^^That was 90 years ago during the depression.

That was 90 years ago during the GLOBAL depression.

And at that the US easily weathered the storm compared to most others.

[...]

Oh 90 vs 50 years makes a big difference? You cant write it off as just the Depression, not every country let their people suffer that way. America didn't care about the down and out back then anymore that today.

[...]

50 years ago (1973) cities certainly did have plenty of homeless people, beggars, junkies panhandling and sleeping in train stations, etc. It only got worse when conservatives started undoing the safety nets and unions, which finally we're starting to reassemble. Some of you have a completely idealized, unrealistic view of the past.

R534 You’re kidding, right? 50 years ago, the number of homeless, junkies, beggars etc was a small FRACTION of what there is now.

In the 80s, beginning with Reagan and continuing with Clinton in the 90s, we simply gave in to deregulation and allowed Wall Street more and more latitude. decade after decade. Now we're fucked. The Democrats are complicit in this as well, just not as badly.

R535 But for those who weren't even born yet and even for those who were does that matter? In my entire NY experience, I've never encountered so many homeless people around and south of Penn Station than I have in the last 2 years and around Madison Park near where I've worked since 2015.

Yes, yes, R535, that's why I said that conservative policies made it worse. But they were already very evident in cities 50 years ago. Maybe you're too young to have traveled through Grand Central Station and similar places in the early 70s. Let's not idealize the past.

Progressive pundit Cenk Uygur will challenge President Biden for the Democratic nomination, offering himself as an alternative to an incumbent who “is definitely going to lose” if he makes it to the general election.

“I’m going to do whatever I can to help him decide that this is not the right path,” Uygur, 53, told Semafor, as he prepared to file for the 2024 Nevada primary. “If he retires now, he’s a hero: He beat Trump, he did a good job of being a steward of the economy. If he doesn’t, he loses to Trump, and he’s the villain of the story.”

[quote] Uygur was born in Istanbul, and immigrated to the United States from Turkey in 1978, but believed that the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” clause wouldn’t disqualify him from running. The issue would end up in the Supreme Court, he said, and be a “slam dunk” victory. “That’s another good reason to run,” he said. “I’m tired of 25 million Americans having this albatross around their neck.”

Oh, a real winning strategy.

I never thought I would say this but Cenk is becoming annoying.

Rita isn't afraid to take on Mighty Joe

Cenk Uygur has always said as many moronic comments as he has sensible ones. He is not even qualified to run for president, so fuck off idiot.

I used to listen to Cenk Uygur way back when he was just The Young Turks on Sirus. Now that he is a YouTube "influencer" cough, cough. I think he's gone way off the rails. He really is just after attention via clicks, likes, and subscribe than anything else now.

Cenk gave the democrats fair warning

Is his name pronounced Stank Wayger?

Lol, Sky News, r541? Could you be any more transparent?

Donald Dump will not be elected POTUS in 2024. President Biden should win in a walk but if he strokes out (a far more likely outcome for Dump than Biden), he'll still win. We'll handle it.

The End.

A recent poll shows Haley and DeSantis beating Biden, but Trump narrowly losing. Maybe if GOP voters begin to see that other candidates would beat Biden and Trump would not, then they will drop support for Trump.

R546 and could you be anymore without point or persuasiveness to say nothing of transparent? Why not supply a link that disproves the report?

And fellow progressive Kyle Kulinski has expressed his support for Marianne Williamson! Whaaat?

Keisha, gurl, she cray-cray…

Lol, the "report" from your conservative, right wing source, r549, is trivial and shows their desperation in finding *something* to criticize Joe about....no matter how picayune.

I think It's the truth that bothers you R551 not the news source

How Bideneque of you R551 to blame the media

Biden confuses debt with deficit, blames press for grim news and claims a budget ‘surplus’ in rant President Biden criticized the media Friday over the public’s economic concerns and again mixed up the terms “debt” and “deficit” — while also claiming he’s presiding over a federal budget surplus despite actually overseeing the highest non-pandemic annual deficit in US history. “You all are not the happiest people in the world ...

r552/ r553 - Lol, keep believing your "polls".

[Quote] I have only one pole and keep diverting as it shows you're out of ammunition.

Donald Trumps Blunders

The difference is these are not simple verbal missteps, he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

You're adowable, r555.

👍more diversion

Slurring, confused Trump raises cognitive concerns.

Demented Trump says terrorists "smart" in speech that horrifies world

Political strategists are interested in poles and polls

🙋‍♀️ R559🙋‍♂️ R560

The Hill, Pete Repete at r562? Because...of course.

because it happened R563 or is it 'fake news'?

OMG, OMG, r562/ r564, Joe had a gaffe at a fundraiser!!! Whatever will you do? My, my, how you and tour right wing buddies trifle. *That's* all you got???

👍Surely the staunchest cellar dweller has moved beyond that eyeroll Gif and LOL! which are like Biden and Trump

[quote] Trump versus Biden? Young voters not excited about choosing between oldest candidates ever

Would they vote for Haley? She’s 51.

(^.^) Don't think age is a consideration or problem for Haley as it is for Biden and Trump. Obama was 47 when he was inaugurated, Clinton was 46 and JFK 43. Trump was 70 and Biden was 78. Regan was 77 at the end of his tenure.

Regan was already showing some signs of dementia during his first term.

as does Biden R569

Ronald Reagan had a brain like swiss cheese, riddled through with Alzheimer's during his entire second term (which he successfully served out). He had strong and experienced advisors, just as President Biden does. The president employs serious people who aren't fucking stupid and know how to run the country.

OTOH, Fuckface von Clownstick can't even get himself one decent lawyer. He has no friends in government and anyone even halfway decent who was willing to serve in Fuckface's single term wouldn't ever work for him again. He has NO ONE other than dumb as dirt sycophants who like the attention Fuckface gets them but have no idea how to do any actual work to serve We the People.

[Quote]The president employs serious people who aren't fucking stupid and know how to run the country.

Names?

Look up every single fucking name currently employed at the highest levels of the Biden Administration, lazy moron at R572. You can do your own googling.

R573 I was wondering who you were specifically referring to in your statement

[Quote]The president employs serious people who aren't fucking stupid and know how to run the country.

Secretary of Transportation Buttigieg, Border Czar Kamala Harris, Press Secretary Karine-Jean Pierre

Yes, yes and yes, you lazy ass motherfucker. Just how fat are you, anyway? Like Orca fat or Fuckface von Clownstick fat or Louis Anderson fat or what?

Start with the Secretaries of Agriculture, Commerce, Defense, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Labor, State, Transportation, Treasury, and Veterans Affairs, and the Attorney General. Additionally, the Cabinet includes the White House Chief of Staff, the US Ambassador to the United Nations, the Director of National Intelligence, and the US Trade Representative, as well as the heads of the Environmental Protection Agency, Office of Management and Budget, Council of Economic Advisers, Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Small Business Administration.

See how you get on with those and I may give you an additional list later on.

Enjoy!

R575 Anyone can google names just as anyone can make a general statement that is neither supported nor specific. And those who can't support a claim with examples and details usually resort to an angry dismissive tone so popular among INCELs After all you present an opinion but little or no proof. i.e. why you feel that way.

[Quote] The president employs serious people who aren't fucking stupid and know how to run the country.

Is anyone comparing the number of resignations in the first three years between the Trump and Biden Admins?

No but it would be very diverting.

Former President Donald Trump appeared again to mix up Barack Obama and Joe Biden just weeks after he inexplicably told an audience that he was leading Obama in the polls "by a lot."

Biden and Trump are in cognitive decline. It's an apples and orange argument.

Just following me and wave

Senile old fool, the worst president ever, wears a diaper, can't even count to 30,

Joe has a problem with stairs.

I dont care if Joe is in a wheel chair, still a far better pick than that fat slob in the Florida swamp.

It may seem like an obvious point to anyone who recalls the turnover drama in the Trump years, when top officials resigned under pressure or got fired — sometimes via tweet. But the numbers are staggering.

At this point in the Trump administration — by Sept. 25, 2019 — nine of the 15 Cabinet secretaries had left their positions, according to data compiled by the Brookings Institution and the Partnership for Public Service.

Under Biden, just one of those department leaders has stepped down: former Labor Secretary Marty Walsh, who said he left for a dream job running the NHL Players’ Association.

“Biden just generally is very low drama,” said Kathryn Dunn Tenpas, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution who studies turnover in presidential administrations. That applies both to turnover in his Cabinet as well as other senior positions that don’t require Senate confirmation.

R537 New York in the 70’s was in crisis, it wasn’t as if all of the US was New York. And homelessness has increased 25% since 2020.

Thanks r585

577.

My pleasure, R587, the Brookings Institute has stats on presidential cabinet turnover going back to Ronald Reagan (maybe further?). At least that's who the have the charts posted for.

R586 Time Capsule NY in the 70s:

Mr. Ford, on Oct. 29, 1975, gave a speech denying federal assistance to spare New York from bankruptcy. The front page of The Daily News the next day read: “FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD.”

Mr. Ford never explicitly said “drop dead.” Yet those two words, arguably the essence of his remarks as encapsulated in the immortal headline, would, as he later acknowledged, cost him the presidency the following year, after Jimmy Carter, nominated by the Democrats in New York, narrowly carried the state.

The stairs beat Biden yet again

Democrats Lose Governor Race in First Major Contest Ahead of 2024

Democrat contenders Shawn Wilson and John Bel Edwards failed to keep the governorship in Louisiana, ultimately losing to Republican Jeff Laundry.

Dems need to focus on crime, the economy and the border. The green initiative is not foremost on voters' minds

[quote] The green initiative is not foremost on voters' minds

However 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 allows trillions of dollars that can be skimmed by politically friendly corporations.

You mean the Green Dream, or whatever?

The Democratic focus on the environment IS a crucial part of the election strategy for ALL Democrats, not just the president and rightly so.

It's not something we can put on the back-burner with Democratic voters. End of.

Other things will continue to be addressed as well. Keeping those violently criminal MAGAT lunatics off of our borders and our immigrants is, of course, very important. The many gains in our economy since we threw Dump out. Our incredibly low unemployment, control of the most common drug prices, stopping the criminal disenfranchisement of voters, trying and convicting criminal insurrectionists, all these things are important.

As President Obama often reminded us, the president must do more than a couple of things at a time. President Biden knows this very well, that may be why he has been so successful in accomplishing things. Also he has a fantastic staff and Cabinet. They don't all quit on him as soon as they get to know him like what happened with Dump.

R586, you seem to have lost the thread of the discussion. The exchange I was responding to was:

[quote]We have the LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT IN 50 FUCKING YEARS.

[quote]50 fucking years ago we didn't have people sleeping under every bridge, and people could afford gas, bread, and rent.

The point is that yes, 50 years ago these problems existed (and people were hyperbolizing about it then, too). Saying that it's gotten worse again since Covid or claiming that they the problems were isolated in NYC (which was not in crisis, by the way, until 1975) is irrelevant. Don't claim that Biden and the current Democrats are responsible for some unique combination of economic problems when in fact they've gone far in alleviating the problems the Republican saddled us with.

( ^.^) and what is Joe proposing to do about it except talking about the former guy and spending billions on pensions for Ukrainians and migrants?

Bidenomics for US taxpayers

So generous with our tax dollars

The families of those who were slaughtered by the Palestinian terrorists should be allowed to sue the Gazan government and take their share of the aid money off the top.

It’d be nice is the US minded its own business. Nothing good comes out of that region. Let them fight it out.