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Danny Masterson gets thirty years

I don’t understand. Why didn’t he flee to Europe?

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by Anonymousreply 535October 5, 2023 11:35 PM

The other prisoners are going to badger him for canteen money, if not more.

by Anonymousreply 1September 7, 2023 6:53 PM

Scientology your way out of this Danny.

by Anonymousreply 2September 7, 2023 6:55 PM

Did you read the article you linked to, OP? He didn't flee because they've kept him locked up since May 31.

by Anonymousreply 3September 7, 2023 6:58 PM

He'll be released with some mickeymouse "restrictions" in a few months. Scientology is very generous.

by Anonymousreply 4September 7, 2023 6:59 PM

[quote]Scientology your way out of this Danny.

Maybe this is his way out of Scientology.

by Anonymousreply 5September 7, 2023 7:00 PM

The SeaOrg will send people to get jobs as corrections officers so they can pass him things and look after him.

by Anonymousreply 6September 7, 2023 7:06 PM

Working as a corrections officer would be a big step up from being in SeaOrg.

by Anonymousreply 7September 7, 2023 7:09 PM

Agreed R7, but you just know that they’ll be made to live communally and give all of their money back to the church.

by Anonymousreply 8September 7, 2023 7:11 PM

OP: According to the Associated Press Style Guide...

Numbers 1 through 9 are written as words: one, two, three...nine.

Numbers 10 and above are written as numerals: 10, 11, 12. etc. This includes 30.

by Anonymousreply 9September 7, 2023 7:15 PM

Jesus Christ! Many murderers and pedophiles don't get put away that long.

That is fucking HARD CORE.

Bijou must be feeling suicidal right now. Their poor kids. How traumatic is that? Raised by a Scientology rapist dad who then ends up in jail for the rest of his/your life?

Hope it was worth it, Danny! You are FUCKED. Your entire life - totally fucked.

by Anonymousreply 10September 7, 2023 7:16 PM

Not eligible for parole until he's 77. Beautiful.

I wonder if he will off himself?

by Anonymousreply 11September 7, 2023 7:17 PM

Chyna Phillips is gonna have to do a lot of praying. Sorry for Bijou and their kids.

by Anonymousreply 12September 7, 2023 7:18 PM

Kind of an extreme sentence.

by Anonymousreply 13September 7, 2023 7:18 PM

Oh, well. See you. Wouldn’t want to be you.

by Anonymousreply 14September 7, 2023 7:18 PM

Somewhere, Daniel Franzese is laughing.

by Anonymousreply 15September 7, 2023 7:21 PM

Why is his sentence so extreme?

I may never understand sentencing. A child pornographer can get five years or fifty years. A rapist can get three years or thirty years. One murderer gets twenty years, the next one gets life without parole.

It all seems so scattershot.

by Anonymousreply 16September 7, 2023 7:21 PM
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by Anonymousreply 17September 7, 2023 7:22 PM

Ashton Kutcher kept hiring him. When is Ashton going to be exposed?

by Anonymousreply 18September 7, 2023 7:24 PM

He gets 30 years but the people who tried to stage a coup get shit like 10-18. Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 19September 7, 2023 7:28 PM

Kids. They never learn.

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by Anonymousreply 20September 7, 2023 7:28 PM

[quote] In May 2023, Masterson was convicted of forcible rape of two women, both former members of the Church of Scientology; a third charge was declared deadlocked due to a hung jury.

You can be deadlocked on one charge and not the others? I thought jurors had to agree on each count or it was a mistrial.

by Anonymousreply 21September 7, 2023 7:30 PM

I have to ask… was it rape rape?

by Anonymousreply 22September 7, 2023 7:30 PM

There’s still no mug shot.

by Anonymousreply 23September 7, 2023 7:31 PM

Sucks to be him

by Anonymousreply 24September 7, 2023 7:31 PM

Didn’t he drug women and rape them, maybe filming it? This trial has drug on so long I’ve forgotten what he did but I remember it sounding really bad when I heard the accusations.

by Anonymousreply 25September 7, 2023 7:32 PM

Rape is horrible but if he's getting "30 to life" for two rapes from twenty years ago, we need to up our standards for other crimes/criminals. Like what R19 is saying.

I mean Jared from Subway only got 15 years and he was diddling young kids. Which to me is way, way, way, way, way worse than adult rape

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by Anonymousreply 26September 7, 2023 7:35 PM

Damn, they threw the book at him.

Thirty years to life seems excessive under the circumstances.

by Anonymousreply 27September 7, 2023 7:36 PM

Why is his sentence so extreme? Because he drugged, raped, and was violent. He ruined those womens lives. So 🖕you!

by Anonymousreply 28September 7, 2023 7:36 PM

[quote]You can be deadlocked on one charge and not the others? I thought jurors had to agree on each count or it was a mistrial.

You are an idiot.

Criminal juries have to agree on guilt or innocence or else it is a mistrial. Every juror does not have to vote to convict on every charge in order to get a result, dummy.

by Anonymousreply 29September 7, 2023 7:38 PM

I didn't read where he drugged anyone.

by Anonymousreply 30September 7, 2023 7:38 PM

He got extra time for being hideously ugly.

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by Anonymousreply 31September 7, 2023 7:39 PM

Tom Cruise wasted so much money on his defense fund. What a moron.

by Anonymousreply 32September 7, 2023 7:40 PM

That should be the sentence going forward for theft. We will soon see a drop off in five finger discounts.

by Anonymousreply 33September 7, 2023 7:41 PM

R30, go back and read the testimonials of those women. He drugged one and woke up to him raping her. When woke up while being raped, she fought him. He punched her then smothered her with a pillow, until she backed out. The whole time he was calling her trash, a whore and that was his method. He's probably done it other times as well.

by Anonymousreply 34September 7, 2023 7:46 PM

I can't listen to Michael Jackson songs. I can't watch the Naked Gun movies. And now I can't watch That 70s Show reruns.

by Anonymousreply 35September 7, 2023 7:47 PM

These are state charges, correct, so he won't be a nice prison??

by Anonymousreply 36September 7, 2023 7:50 PM

Sentencing often depends on the judge. This one was extreme.

by Anonymousreply 37September 7, 2023 7:52 PM

Bijou is a head case.

by Anonymousreply 38September 7, 2023 7:52 PM

What a waste of naturally curly hair.

by Anonymousreply 39September 7, 2023 7:53 PM

Where can we read what he actually did? Are court documents online?

by Anonymousreply 40September 7, 2023 7:54 PM

[quote] go back and read the testimonials of those women.


by Anonymousreply 41September 7, 2023 7:55 PM

He should get THIRTY years in the slammer just for appearing on that CRAPPY show which might be even WORSE that that LAME ASS show


by Anonymousreply 42September 7, 2023 7:56 PM

I'm surprised that anyone would think 30 years is excessive for a repeat offender who drugged and raped his victims (both vaginally and sometimes anally) and was said to be otherwise physically violent during his sexual attacks. He's depraved and got the sentence he deserved.

by Anonymousreply 43September 7, 2023 7:56 PM

Danny, my husband was railroaded too! Stand by your man, Bijou.

by Anonymousreply 44September 7, 2023 8:00 PM

I hope the civil suits leave Bijou penniless. That's probably why the family was sobbing in court.

by Anonymousreply 45September 7, 2023 8:04 PM

I wish Cosby had gotten 30 years. It's sickening that he got his sentence overturned. I have no doubt he raped far more women than we know about.

by Anonymousreply 46September 7, 2023 8:07 PM

Haha! Must be the scientology.

by Anonymousreply 47September 7, 2023 8:09 PM

Not everyone kowtows to false masters, r9 .

by Anonymousreply 48September 7, 2023 8:12 PM

Psychopath clam getting his due.

Don’t understand why the J6 crew are getting such light sentences.

by Anonymousreply 49September 7, 2023 8:14 PM

I was molested.

by Anonymousreply 50September 7, 2023 8:14 PM

R48. It's not false.

by Anonymousreply 51September 7, 2023 8:16 PM

r51 Associated Press is not in charge of the world.

by Anonymousreply 52September 7, 2023 8:18 PM

Yes, what this guy did was bad, but murderers get less jail time.

Why the justice system thinks this deserves more jail time than murder is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 53September 7, 2023 8:19 PM

Fucking GOOD.

by Anonymousreply 54September 7, 2023 8:19 PM

R48=CLAM cunt fuck

by Anonymousreply 55September 7, 2023 8:20 PM

There is no limit to the evils of Scientology, and I would be very happy to see that cult destroyed in my lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 56September 7, 2023 8:26 PM

Harvey Weinstein got 23 years in New York and an additional 16 years in California....just for reference's sake.

I think it would be better for murderers to be given longer sentences, rather than giving less to serial rapists.

by Anonymousreply 57September 7, 2023 8:32 PM

How is it worth it to force someone to have sex with you? I don't get it. There is no vantage point from which rape makes sense to me.

by Anonymousreply 58September 7, 2023 8:34 PM

Harvey made me fuck him.

by Anonymousreply 59September 7, 2023 8:34 PM

LA Times

"Biden administration considers forcing migrant families to remain in Texas"

How about remaining in Mexico

by Anonymousreply 60September 7, 2023 8:35 PM

I thought Scientology would some how get him out of this.....guess not.

Leah Remini must be loving this.

If his brother needs support, I'll gladly give him the best BJ to get him over this hardship

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by Anonymousreply 61September 7, 2023 8:37 PM

R52. It's not only the Associated Press Style Guide. It's common grammar rules.

by Anonymousreply 62September 7, 2023 8:39 PM

[quote]Not eligible for parole until he's 77. Beautiful.

Just in time for "That 2020s Show".

by Anonymousreply 63September 7, 2023 8:45 PM

R62, please check your 17th edition of the Chicago Manual os Style before you completely embarrass yourself, especially 9.2 and 9.3.

by Anonymousreply 64September 7, 2023 8:49 PM

Good. Scientologotrash. Let him rot in there. His career/life is over. Guess Hyde ain't so cool now.

by Anonymousreply 65September 7, 2023 8:52 PM

[quote]How is it worth it to force someone to have sex with you? I don't get it. There is no vantage point from which rape makes sense to me.

There is a difference between what Weinstein did and what the average rapist who wears a mask and puts a knife to the woman's neck did. Of course, they're both more about control and power than sex (although the coercion and power do provide sexual gratification).

You're looking at it purely through the prism of hot sex.

by Anonymousreply 66September 7, 2023 8:53 PM

[quote]There is no vantage point from which rape makes sense to me.

That's good, it means you're not a sadistic psycho.

by Anonymousreply 67September 7, 2023 8:56 PM

Conan was joking back in 2004, or maybe he was on to something.

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by Anonymousreply 68September 7, 2023 8:57 PM

I think the people whining about his sentence being too long are only doing so because he's famous. If a convenience store clerk committed multiple violent rapes then they wouldn't question a 30 year sentence.

by Anonymousreply 69September 7, 2023 9:06 PM

[quote] The defense unsuccessfully had sought to have their client’s time served concurrently.... if the defense’s argument had been successful that would have seen Masterson imprisoned for 15 years to life as the maximum

Looks like he got consecutive sentences, rather than concurrent sentences.

So, the jury found he raped 2 women. Each charge (one for each woman) would have subjected him to 15 years (sounds like).

If run concurrently (at the same time), that would make it 15 years.

Consecutive (15 years, then 15 more) would make it the 30 that we have here.

Not sure how a life sentence was a possible outcome. CA must have a law that attaches life sentences to sexual assaults.

by Anonymousreply 70September 7, 2023 9:07 PM

I volunteer to condle his brother.

by Anonymousreply 71September 7, 2023 9:13 PM

^ I already called it. Bitch, wait your turn but It's going to be a long time.

by Anonymousreply 72September 7, 2023 9:15 PM

damn, that's tough. Murderers get less time

by Anonymousreply 73September 7, 2023 9:20 PM

He was punching the women in the head as he raped them. Real depraved indifference to life.

by Anonymousreply 74September 7, 2023 9:22 PM

Drinkie-poos tonight, BITCHES!

by Anonymousreply 75September 7, 2023 9:25 PM

Why does everyone feel bad for Bijou?

She knows he's a rapist but still trails after him like a supportive little cheerleader.

by Anonymousreply 76September 7, 2023 9:25 PM

was he on drugs while raping them? i didn't follow the whole case. But damn, punching their heads while raping? that's so fucked up.

his parents must be so proud!

by Anonymousreply 77September 7, 2023 9:29 PM

R71, actually, there are 2 handsome actor brothers. We can rotate.

by Anonymousreply 78September 7, 2023 9:30 PM

Bijou also didn't believe that her half-sister Mackenzie Phillips (same father, John Phillips) was having sex with their father. Even Chynna (same father, different mother from both Bijou and Mackenzie) believed Mackenzie. I do believe Mackenzie. That was a sordid tale.

by Anonymousreply 79September 7, 2023 9:31 PM

r74 = Sam McCoy

by Anonymousreply 80September 7, 2023 9:31 PM

I meant JACK McCoy, of course!

by Anonymousreply 81September 7, 2023 9:32 PM

R31: He’s a criminal rapist and Justice was served but c’mon he’s by no means ugly.

by Anonymousreply 82September 7, 2023 9:42 PM

r78 r82

by Anonymousreply 83September 7, 2023 9:47 PM

Rigged Jury!

by Anonymousreply 84September 7, 2023 9:52 PM

Trump molested over 20 women. How many years does he get?

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by Anonymousreply 85September 7, 2023 9:54 PM

^^^^^ RIGHT? ^^^^^^^

by Anonymousreply 86September 7, 2023 9:55 PM

I never met those women. They're all liars.

by Anonymousreply 87September 7, 2023 9:57 PM

R30, the testimony does suggest that the women were drugged—he gave them a drink and they became woozy.

Sentencing is all over the place because different states have different rules about sentencing. In addition, you can usually get a shorter sentence by agreeing to plead guilty. Going to trial is a huge gamble.

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by Anonymousreply 88September 7, 2023 10:01 PM

He got the sentence violent rapists SHOULD get. Instead of saying it was too harsh, we should be expecting at least the same for murderers. It's the judges who give lenient sentences who are in the wrong, not this one who gave a fair sentence.

Someone who rapes while beating and smothering somebody or holding a gun to their head deserves what he got, at minimum.

by Anonymousreply 89September 7, 2023 10:02 PM

Has anyone reached out to Xenu for a comment yet?

by Anonymousreply 90September 7, 2023 10:02 PM

You don't reach out to Xenu, Xenu reaches out to you.

by Anonymousreply 91September 7, 2023 10:04 PM

I agree R89.

by Anonymousreply 92September 7, 2023 10:05 PM

Yeah, I’m guessing that he rejected a plea offer that would’ve involved less than 30 years.

by Anonymousreply 93September 7, 2023 10:06 PM

Danny must've come across as glib and suppressive in court.

by Anonymousreply 94September 7, 2023 10:06 PM

[qoute]Actor Leah Remini, a former Scientologist who has become the church’s most prominent detractor on social media and through a TV series she hosted featuring dissident ex-members, sat in the front row of the courtroom in support of Masterson’s accusers.

What a badass she is. Damn!

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by Anonymousreply 95September 7, 2023 10:10 PM

Sorry my formatting didn't work, you guys. But wow, Leah Remini is a force of nature

by Anonymousreply 96September 7, 2023 10:11 PM

Is it weird that he didn't testify at either of his trials? Is that normal? You'd think if you were innocent, you'd want your time on the stand. You'd want to shout your innocence from the rooftop.

by Anonymousreply 97September 7, 2023 10:13 PM

Danny Masterson's attorney offers the possibility that the actor was simply "a really bad lover"

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by Anonymousreply 98September 7, 2023 10:19 PM

Yes, it's normal for a defendant in a criminal case to not testify.

If you were accused of murdering someone and you claimed self-defense, then yes, it would be normal to testify.

One of his defense attorneys, Shawn Holley, said:

[quote] “Mr. Masterson did not commit the crimes for which he has been convicted, and we, and the appellate lawyers, the best and the brightest in the country, are confident that these convictions will be overturned.”

She sounds overconfident, IMO - "best and brightest"?

by Anonymousreply 99September 7, 2023 10:20 PM

I'm so glad Masterson got such a harsh sentence. It's harsh, but it's just. He deserves every second of it.

by Anonymousreply 100September 7, 2023 10:20 PM

Taking the stand for the first time Oct. 24, Masterson accuser Christina B (aka Jane Doe 3) testified that she and the actor had been going out for more than four years, starting in 1997, when she woke up on one occasion in 2001 at his Hollywood Hills home (where she lived at the time) to find him having sex with her.

"I told him I didn't want to have sex, and he wouldn't stop," she said. He pinned her arms, she continued, making her feel "trapped...I was screaming at him to get off of me."

When she pulled on his hair, which was against a rule he had against touching his face or hair, he struck her on the left side of her face, the witness said, then spit on her and called her "white trash" as he got up.

About a year into their ultimately six-year relationship, Christina said, "He became very aggressive sexually...I remember coming back from Paris [in 1998] and I was really really tired and jet-lagged and sick and he wanted to have sex and I didn't. And it resulted in a fight where he dragged me by my hair along the floor. He called me fat and other insults. That's the first that I remember."

Whether she wanted to have sex when he did or not, she continued, "most of the time I let it happen. It would get to the point where if I made it an issue, he would ignore me for a day or two where I would go groveling to him."

And if she didn't apologize to him, she said, "there would be no communication."

by Anonymousreply 101September 7, 2023 10:24 PM

R74 & R77: For a period, Danny was a celeb DJ at clubs/parties. He went by the name DJ Donkey Punch!! (before changing it to DJ Mom Jeans)

by Anonymousreply 102September 7, 2023 10:24 PM

[quote][R71], actually, there are 2 handsome actor brothers. We can rotate.

I saw this so decided to check.

I had no idea that one of his brothers was the oldest son on Malcolm in the Middle.

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by Anonymousreply 104September 7, 2023 10:46 PM

I was going to bring up the DJ Donkey Punch name. I had no idea what it meant.😖🤮 He was pretty brazen.

by Anonymousreply 105September 7, 2023 11:08 PM

Bijou is going to have to get a job.

by Anonymousreply 106September 7, 2023 11:20 PM

He got 15 years for each rape and the judge opted for the sentences to serve consecutively, not concurrently.

by Anonymousreply 107September 7, 2023 11:25 PM

Bijou can start a handbag Etsy store with Christine Bautgartner

by Anonymousreply 108September 7, 2023 11:25 PM

Didn’t Shawn Holly defend Lindsay Lohan back in the day?

by Anonymousreply 109September 7, 2023 11:36 PM

This will help women ! The evil type of man will pause a bit before unleashing.

by Anonymousreply 110September 7, 2023 11:48 PM

Goodbye, Wisconsin.

by Anonymousreply 111September 7, 2023 11:48 PM

I don't know him.

by Anonymousreply 112September 7, 2023 11:54 PM

He was born into the CoS. He sounds like an actual psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 113September 7, 2023 11:55 PM

We were actually hoping for Francis, but we'll take him.

by Anonymousreply 114September 7, 2023 11:59 PM

I love Leah Remini. She's fearless. Here's her statement:

My statement on the sentencing of Scientologist Danny Masterson:

"Sitting in court today with the women who survived Danny Masterson's predation was a surreal experience. Over the past seven decades, former Scientologists have sadly become used to Scientology using its financial resources, religious protection, and relationships to snatch justice away from them.

For over two decades, Danny Masterson avoided accountability for his crimes. While Danny was the only one sentenced, his conviction and sentence are indictments against Scientology, its operatives, and its criminal leader, David Miscavige.

Scientology managed to cover up Danny's crimes with the help of its intelligence agency, the Office of Special Affairs, top "church" officials like Kirsten Caetano Pedersen and Julian Swartz, its network of media-hungry unethical attorneys, private investigators, agents, and civilian Scientologists who engaged in a conspiracy to cover up crimes of sexual violence.

I am relieved that this dangerous rapist will be off the streets and unable to violently assault and rape women with the help of Scientology, a multi-billion-dollar criminal organization with tax-exempt status.

Hearing the survivors read their victim impact statements aloud in court while the man who raped them and some of the very Scientologists who terrorized them over two decades were just a few feet away displayed a level of bravery that I am in awe of.

These women not only faced the living hell of being raped, having their rapes covered up by the very organization that promised to protect them, but they have also faced ruthless and criminal harassment by Scientology and its agents since they came forward to law enforcement.

I will always remind the public that in Scientology if you report another Scientologist to law enforcement, you are committing a high crime. The consequences of such a high crime are devastating: you will lose everything you've ever known, from your family to your friends to your job.

The women who survived Danny's predation fought tirelessly for justice. Their tenacity, strength, and courage have given hope to all victims of Scientology that justice is possible. For that, we will forever be grateful.

To the LAPD detectives, the LA District Attorney's office, Judge Olmedo, and the jury, we thank you for your fair and impartial approach to this case and trial."

by Anonymousreply 115September 8, 2023 12:06 AM

Right, R105?? I'd never heard the term "Donkey Punch" until Masterson used it as his DJ name. When I looked it up in the urban dictionary, I was shocked, mystified, appalled, disgusted. Whether or not it was even a "real thing" who in the HELL would think that's a funny name to call themselves??? He was practically advertising, or bragging. What a loathsome piece of shit!

by Anonymousreply 116September 8, 2023 12:07 AM

That was a beautiful statement by Leah Remini, R115

by Anonymousreply 117September 8, 2023 12:28 AM

This is the year of true justice! More to come

by Anonymousreply 118September 8, 2023 12:32 AM

I don't think we'll be seeing Danny anymore - good riddance.

by Anonymousreply 119September 8, 2023 12:34 AM

R116- Omg! I had to look that up and it is violent and disgusting. Didn't he stalk and threaten them? Threaten them and their family if they testified and he has his cult threatening them as well? He is a danger to women and I believe his violence towards his victims would have escalated. The judge apparently thought the same.

by Anonymousreply 120September 8, 2023 12:41 AM


Bijou is trash. She was laughing about the allegations when he was arrested. Bet she’s not laughing now.

by Anonymousreply 121September 8, 2023 12:48 AM

There’s a movie called Donkey Punch.

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by Anonymousreply 122September 8, 2023 12:50 AM

That’s surprising I didn’t think he’d get real time

by Anonymousreply 123September 8, 2023 12:50 AM

I was sexually assaulted by a group of guys in college. They actually bragged about it so I was put through all kinds of questions by officials. I didn’t have the vocabulary or emotional maturity to process what had happened. There is a moment when the attack is going in that you think they’re going to kill your to keep you quiet.

I don’t know to this day whether I’m a survivor or not.

When I see a story like this I think good. Fuck him.

by Anonymousreply 124September 8, 2023 12:51 AM

R124 I’m really sorry that happened to you.

by Anonymousreply 125September 8, 2023 12:53 AM

Ooh, the Unrated Bare Knuckle Edit! Even tackier than the theatrical version!

Donkey Punch stars DL favorite Julian Morris

by Anonymousreply 126September 8, 2023 12:55 AM

Bijou may have to go back to work.

by Anonymousreply 127September 8, 2023 12:57 AM

One of his accusers -- former girlfriend, Chrissie Bixler (who was with him during early years of T7S) -- believes her dog was poisoned (and had to be euthanized as a result of said poisoning) in retaliation for speaking out.

by Anonymousreply 128September 8, 2023 12:58 AM

I really don't understand why Chrissie B was with him for six years. She said the rough sex and demeaning treatment started around a year in. I can't believe she stuck around for five more years of abuse. Why do people do this? Is it an addictive cycle of love/abuse/love/abuse? Sounds HORRIBLE

by Anonymousreply 129September 8, 2023 1:03 AM

How hard do they hit someone? Do they hit them with their fist? Please describe in detail how they assault them. Tia

by Anonymousreply 130September 8, 2023 1:04 AM

Hard enough to make their anal sphincter clench up involuntarily, apparently R130

by Anonymousreply 131September 8, 2023 1:06 AM

[quote] I really don't understand why Chrissie B was with him for six years. She said the rough sex and demeaning treatment started around a year in. I can't believe she stuck around for five more years of abuse. Why do people do this?

She may have been financially dependent on him. She may have a codependent personality type. It's possible that, when he's sober, he can be a nice person. Maybe she wanted to be an actress. Maybe she wanted to be famous. Maybe abusive dynamics were what she was used to.

Personally, there are certain things I can't unsee. If I see someone being cruel or having a mean streak, I can't ignore it.

by Anonymousreply 132September 8, 2023 1:08 AM

The other inmates are going to have a field day

by Anonymousreply 133September 8, 2023 1:11 AM

R131- I apologize for being so dense, but they use a weapon? I just can imagine anyone being capable of hitting a person that hard with only their fist when both are in that position.

by Anonymousreply 134September 8, 2023 1:12 AM

[quote]When I see a story like this I think good. Fuck him.

Totally understandable, R124! So sorry that happened to you.

I often think about the potentially dangerous situations my friends & I found ourselves in during college....partying at frat houses, or other non-frat parties. Any one of us could have found ourselves in a situation such as yours....and now I wonder about how many of my (female) friends did...but just never said anything/didn't want to admit it. 😢

by Anonymousreply 135September 8, 2023 1:15 AM

R129, I think that the women were Scientologists. That’s why they were intimidated. They were mentally abused to begin with.

by Anonymousreply 136September 8, 2023 1:19 AM

R125 and R135, thank you. Truly.

I figured if I shared this on any other thread, I'd be dragged and told that I liked it.

I ended up moving to another part of the campus to get away from all the drama because word had gotten around. I can'tt imagine what i would be like in today's social media world. I would have killed myself.

I learned a great deal about people's tendency to judge and make fun of victims. It made it impossible to make friends. Fortunately, I was able to make one good friend when I moved to another part of the university.

Sometimes when the college reaches out asking for donations I feel like writing back to them as to what happened to me. But I don't think they'd care.

But I'm alive. I'm okay. I don't think I've ever really learned to trust.

by Anonymousreply 137September 8, 2023 1:24 AM

R137- I'm so sorry that happened to you. I know how demeaning it is, which I suppose is exactly why they do this. I know I felt so guilty and stupid for getting myself in that situation. It took me years to trust my own judgement again and that meant never trusting anyone and I don't. I hope you heal.

by Anonymousreply 138September 8, 2023 1:33 AM

I really hope you find some peace, one day, R124/137. I'm sending you a big, loving, virtual hug....however lame & inconsequential (or performative)l, that might sound to some people. Be well. You are a survivor!

by Anonymousreply 139September 8, 2023 1:38 AM

I was in the same law school class (1989) as the sentencing judge. She nailed him!—rightly so.

by Anonymousreply 140September 8, 2023 1:40 AM

Oh, that's GREAT, R140!!!

by Anonymousreply 141September 8, 2023 1:41 AM

Bijou can work at the local McDonalds. She can put their kid in the welfare childcare while she’s there. Can the couple get sued for damages now by the victims?

by Anonymousreply 142September 8, 2023 1:46 AM

Masterson's wife, Bijou Phillips, a model and actor who was a constant presence at her husband's trials, quickly donned a pair of sunglasses after Olmedo announced the sentence. She left the courtroom without a word.

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by Anonymousreply 143September 8, 2023 1:56 AM

This guy only got 180 days in jail for raping a 4-year old and a 9-year old. So I don't understand why Masterson could get 30 years.

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by Anonymousreply 144September 8, 2023 1:58 AM

R144, the defendant was a juvenile when he committed those crimes.

by Anonymousreply 145September 8, 2023 2:01 AM

will Bijou visit him in jail?

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by Anonymousreply 146September 8, 2023 2:03 AM

R144 can’t read—he should stay away from a law classroom and any courtroom.

by Anonymousreply 147September 8, 2023 2:03 AM

R144 =Typical "whataboutism". 🙄 (and has no reading comprehension skills)

by Anonymousreply 148September 8, 2023 2:08 AM

Danny: Hi my name is Danny Masterson would you like to touch my balls?

Conan: I've heard about you, and you'll be caught soon I know you will

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by Anonymousreply 149September 8, 2023 2:35 AM

By today David Miscavige probably doesn't even remember his name.

by Anonymousreply 150September 8, 2023 2:38 AM

I got Bijou Phillips confused with Busy Phillips for a minute and was worried.

by Anonymousreply 151September 8, 2023 2:50 AM

Sexual crimes should have harsh sentences. I'm all for making murders serve more time, too.

Danny sounds unhinged. I really think he'd love to drug, rape, and then beat a woman to death but doesn't want to be caught. He seems completely devoid of compassion. A true psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 152September 8, 2023 3:03 AM

I wonder how long his wife will stay with him. Is she crazy religious like Chyna? Scientologists can have two religions, right?

Hopefully she'll realize life is better when your lover isn't an aggressive asshole.

I hope it makes him crazy, thinking of her leaving him for another man. Another man being his daughter's father figure–not so much because he cares about his kid, but it will hurt his pride. Now he's trapped with little to no control over his life.

He obviously has a high sex drive. And now he has to make do with pretty prison twinks.

I hope all the women he's assaulted, and I'm sure it's more than these three, sleep well tonight.

by Anonymousreply 153September 8, 2023 3:08 AM

R135/R139, it helps more than you might think.

I've survived.

Not everyone gets to say that.

by Anonymousreply 154September 8, 2023 3:15 AM

[Quote] He obviously has an high sex drive. And now he has to make do with pretty prison twinks. R153

Only after Momma and Big Bubba are done turning Danny’s hole into a rosebud. He’ll have to work his way up the chain before he gets to be a top.

by Anonymousreply 155September 8, 2023 3:19 AM

R109 Indeed she did!

by Anonymousreply 156September 8, 2023 3:20 AM
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by Anonymousreply 157September 8, 2023 3:26 AM

A clam who belongs in a sealed can.

POS. And fuck judges who give POS, violent rapists like DM, 2-7 years. They ALL deserve 15-30+.

Start sentencing rapists, child molesters, and those who produce/consume, CSA 15-30 years minimum, PER offense.

Men like this, and even women who molest kids as well, RUIN lives. So fuck them. Put them away for a long time.

You wanna hurt kids and/or adults because that’s how you get off? Then get ready to do hard time.

Hope he rots.

Props to the judge who did right by these women.

No comment on BP, other than I hope she can GTF AWAY from her cult and truly heal/recover.

by Anonymousreply 158September 8, 2023 3:27 AM

r158 I feel like I've read this exact post before. Is this deja vu or a copy/paste?

I'm actually not joking. This is weird.

by Anonymousreply 159September 8, 2023 3:39 AM

R159, it’s my first time commenting on this particular thread regarding D.M., however, surely I’m not the only person who harbors and expresses these sentiments.

Also, as an aside, I have LOTS of love for Mackenzie, who is an AMAZING human being, without one shitty or stuck up bone in her body. And I want to. E clear about something: most of the women in this family are NOT necessarily bad people.

I won’t get into specifics, however, these aren’t vain, heads in the clouds, Hollywood nepo-chicks.

It’s a shame BP ended up with this POS. That’s why I’m wishing her well, & sincerely hope she can get out, now that her abusive, POS husband is in prison.

D.M. deserves every second he had been sentenced to, & more.

He used to DJ at a Sunday Brunch hot spot in town, & the stories that came out of just those gigs alone, were awful.

He’s NOT a good dude, and I’m really upset, yet understand how and why Ashton Kutcher & Mika Kunis continue to vouch for this POS.

If you have never met someone like D.M. in the sense where you unfortunately get to witness their dark side behind closed doors? You just cannot fathom it.

I had never encountered the dark side of someone I completely loved and trusted, until after hitting my late 40s.

My mother KNOWINGLY brought in a sex offender, domestic violence abuser into our family, & hid it from us for YEARS.

I cannot even begin to express to any of you here the absolute mind fuck one goes through, when one totally loves and accepts someone onto their lives like a father, only to find out be’s nothing but a POS domestic violence abuser & rapist/sex offender.

Just like Bijou? My mother has carried water for his POS. I’ve basically lost my mother. It’s just as it happened to Bijou. She’s gone into some sort of cult like way of life, & I will NEVER, EVER get my mom back, and I now understand I do NOT want her back, anyhow.

👆🏽 That’s difficult to accept, yet I’m negotiating this right now, within myself, because I deserve to be free from all of her bullshit, & the bullshit of the man she chose to marry, while knowing how awful he is.

WTF is going on when women cannot get out?

It’s called generational abuse, and men like D.M., & my stepfather, seek out women who have never healed, in order to re-victimize them.

D.M. is a straight up, dangerous predator.

I hope his wife realizes who she married, & SOON.

by Anonymousreply 160September 8, 2023 4:01 AM

r160 No, you're not the only person who feels that way, and I agree with everything you said. I just meant that I felt like I read your post word for word before. Must've definitely been deja vu. That was very bizarre. Maybe I need to give DL a break. I'm starting to see this board in my subconscious, now. o_O

by Anonymousreply 161September 8, 2023 4:11 AM


by Anonymousreply 162September 8, 2023 4:12 AM

R9, there’s little style in these parts…AP’s or otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 163September 8, 2023 4:18 AM

R161, first of all, apologies for all of my typos, as I was discussing household stuff with one of my roommates, as I typed.

The above stated, men like D.M. are HUGE head fucks for women/men who come from abusive childhoods.

THIS is why I’m still rooting for B.P.

I genuinely hope she can come to understand why she married the man she married, & why she’s in her specific situation, today.

It’s NOT her fault, however, she does need to unravel it all, & needs to CLEARLY understand that this wasn’t all some accident.

The road to recovery from this type of shit is painful, yet bearable. I hope she makes it through.

by Anonymousreply 164September 8, 2023 4:30 AM

The Clams are gonna abandon him now that he's no longer a revenue stream.

by Anonymousreply 165September 8, 2023 4:37 AM



Or perhaps they will USE his sentence, in order to gain a foothold in the California Penal/Incarceration System.

They’re advantageous/opportunistic AF, so the latter would not be out of the question.

by Anonymousreply 166September 8, 2023 4:45 AM

Daniel Peter Masterson (born March 13, 19760; 47

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by Anonymousreply 167September 8, 2023 4:55 AM

How Danny Masterson's Wife Bijou Phillips Reacted to His 30-Year Prison Sentence

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by Anonymousreply 168September 8, 2023 4:59 AM

[quote]How Danny Masterson's Wife Bijou Phillips Reacted to His 30-Year Prison Sentence

I can see the psychiatric hospital meltdown, now.

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by Anonymousreply 169September 8, 2023 5:21 AM

Have Chyna Phillips (Bijou's half-sister) and Billy Baldwin weighed in?

by Anonymousreply 170September 8, 2023 5:24 AM

No comment!

by Anonymousreply 171September 8, 2023 5:24 AM

As an aside....I can't help but feel a little sorry for everyone else associated with That '70s Show. Not necessarily Ashton Kutcher, Wilder Valderamma or Laura Prepon -- they were all good buddies/close with Masterson. (while he was with Chrissie Bixler)

But everyone else: Topher Grace (who had the good sense to separate himself/was always on the outside of their little clique), Debra Jo Rupp, Kurtwood Smith, Don Stark....as well as the hundred or so other behind-the-camera crew members who worked on it.

It was a great & funny (and often very sweet) show for the first few seasons! Sadly, it will now probably be forever tainted by the STINK of Danny Masterson. Fuck you, Hyde!

by Anonymousreply 172September 8, 2023 5:47 AM

Danny Masterson has assaulted a lot more victims than the ones he was convicted of raping. We will never know how many he got away with because the cult covered them up.

by Anonymousreply 173September 8, 2023 6:49 AM

Oh, I have no doubt there are more victims, but since he most likely singled out Scientologists we'll never know how many.

by Anonymousreply 174September 8, 2023 7:52 AM

Apparently he’s in a mental ward for criminals in the process of being medically treated for alcohol withdrawal. Apparently dude bro was on the sauce at every waking moment.

Lipstick alley is dragging him, saying that he has “low ears” and “where is Zenu?” and “the mothership can’t save him so his ass is gonna get left, he needs to listen to Erykah “ hahaha

by Anonymousreply 175September 8, 2023 9:14 AM

Why was he raping women? It just makes no sense. Practically all of America watched That 70s Show, he must get recognized everywhere he goes and women would've gave it up willingly boyfriend or not. He also had a wife at home. What the hell is his issue?

by Anonymousreply 176September 8, 2023 9:44 AM

Um....."practically all of America" did NOT watch That '70s Show, R176. You sound like a dumb twat that I saw on Twitter earlier today, calling him one of the "biggest tv stars" of the early aughts. A certain younger demographic might have been watching That '70s Show , but it never ranked higher that #49 (for the season) in Nielsen Ratings. The cast of That '70s Show were never household names (and certainly not Masterson) unlike, say: Ray Romano, Kelsey Grammer, Patrick Dempsey, the cast of FRIENDS, or even Deborah Messing (bwah!) Also: you're an idiot. And clearly haven't read anything about it/the timeline.

by Anonymousreply 177September 8, 2023 10:42 AM

Oh, CHRIST, R177 is here, y'all. There goes ALL of the oxygen in the room.

A thirty-year sentence is FUCKING absurd. I think 5-7 would've been appropriate. I mean...that's crazy. Even Jake Tapper was shocked when he reported it yesterday,

BTW, I always thought Masterson was drug dealer HOT

by Anonymousreply 178September 8, 2023 10:44 AM

I am now officially a big fan of Leah Remini. Wow.

by Anonymousreply 179September 8, 2023 10:46 AM

R177 = Angry That 70s Show hater who brought Hate Receipts

by Anonymousreply 180September 8, 2023 10:47 AM

Nope, that's where you've got it wrong, R180! (and R178). I LOVED That '70 Show (through the first five seasons; the rest weren't bleh). I went to many tapings because I lived within walking distance from Radford (and it was free!). But it wasn't a *hugely* popular show outside of the 18-34 demographic; the cast were not "household names" along the lines of the people I mentioned at R177.

by Anonymousreply 181September 8, 2023 11:14 AM

Will Nancy Cartwright fund his commissary account?

by Anonymousreply 182September 8, 2023 12:30 PM

I bet he's very affectionate and tender with his male lovers. Maybe he subconsciously wanted to get sent up so he could get lots of trade cock?

by Anonymousreply 183September 8, 2023 12:48 PM

[quote]Why was he raping women? It just makes no sense.

Because he's a nasty drunk.

by Anonymousreply 184September 8, 2023 1:06 PM

Plus he was a clam, a male and a celebrity, R184. I’m sure his type of behavior is completely tolerated within their “church”. All that power and support makes you an entitled asshole.

by Anonymousreply 185September 8, 2023 1:10 PM

"I've heard about you. You'll be caught soon."

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by Anonymousreply 186September 8, 2023 1:13 PM

If you're a very violent rapist, and you've repeated it with more than one woman, you're an enormous risk to murder.

Can the people who keep talking about sex and how he could have got plenty of it please stick their heads back up their asses? EVERYONE should know by now that rape is about wielding power and causing degradation, not about sex.

We get it, you don't understand that because you're not a rapist and you think about sex every ten seconds, but it is the case whether you can understand it or not. Women can all tell you that toxic men (who think of themselves as Alphas) are way more about wielding power than getting sex, whether they're actual rapists or just bullies who like to keep their employees on the back foot.

by Anonymousreply 187September 8, 2023 2:19 PM

Anyone who rapes someone like this is a menace to society. Maybe give him a chemical castration as an option.

by Anonymousreply 188September 8, 2023 2:33 PM

Rape *is* indeed about sex. Non-consensual sex.

by Anonymousreply 189September 8, 2023 3:15 PM

Didn't one victim say he choked her? This is a very dangerous potential for eventually murdering a woman. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he has.

by Anonymousreply 190September 8, 2023 4:03 PM

I wonder if a "donkey punch" delivered with enough force and at just the right angle can snap a neck.

The violence of the assaults and druggings seem to be factors in the severity of the sentence.

Re Bijou, if she has family outside Scientology and she's not too entangled with the Masrersons, who are hard-core clams, there's some hope. But it wouldn't surprise me if the cult has assigned a minder to her much like they did Katie Holmes to keep her in line. I wonder if these last three months of relative peace without him around have given her pause to think, at least, that life is so much more peaceful when he's not around. Finances are going to be a factor. IIRC, he put their multi-million dollar home up for sale between trials.

by Anonymousreply 191September 8, 2023 4:27 PM

By all reports, R191, she’s a big cunt, so I’m sure no one cares. She can hitch up her trailer next to Tori’s.

by Anonymousreply 192September 8, 2023 4:30 PM

Men who rape with violence usually hate women and raping them while abusing them physically is their way to demonstrate that hatred.

by Anonymousreply 193September 8, 2023 5:05 PM

Ugh. Prior to Masterson's sentencing, Ashton Kutcher & Mila Kunis wrote letters of support to the judge asking for leniency, calling him a "role model" (Kutcher) and praising his "exceptional character" (Kunis). SMH.

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by Anonymousreply 194September 8, 2023 5:30 PM

You're not wrong, r193, but that sentence has some redundancies in it.

It is possible that some of Danny's partners agreed to rough doggy-style sex, but it's hard to imagine any of them consented to being punched in the back of the head to enhance his orgasm.

by Anonymousreply 195September 8, 2023 5:30 PM

For the umpteeth time: rape/sexual assault is not about having sex. It is an act of violence. Capisce?

by Anonymousreply 196September 8, 2023 5:42 PM

Finally some justice.

by Anonymousreply 197September 8, 2023 5:42 PM

[quote]When she pulled on his hair, which was against a rule he had against touching his face or hair

That's so weird.

by Anonymousreply 198September 8, 2023 5:43 PM

Does Bijou get any Mamas & Papas royalties?

by Anonymousreply 199September 8, 2023 5:45 PM

[quote]For the umpteeth time: rape/sexual assault is not about having sex. It is an act of violence. Capisce?

It would be helpful if you tagged the poster you were addressing, r196. I think most of us "capisce" it just fine.

One other thing about donkey-punching and its definitely not being consensual. In one of its extremest forms, the element of surprise is emphasized.


A woman could be having a what she thought was plain old vanilla sex from behind, but shortly before her partner cums, he pulls out of her vagina, and rams his penis forcefully and painfully into her ass.

....then punches her in the back of the head. Danny thought that was so funny that he used it as his name. Given what we now know, it isn't hard to believe that he practiced this on many unsuspecting women for laughs. The humiliation could be so great that we will probably never hear from them.

In jail for 30 years? It's better than *under* the jail.

by Anonymousreply 200September 8, 2023 6:38 PM

Most women who enjoy rough sex aren't looking to get beat up. They just want a man to slam that thang. They want to get dick slapped, not cold cocked across the face.

by Anonymousreply 201September 8, 2023 6:40 PM

I never hears of 'That '70s Show' until it was off the air.

by Anonymousreply 202September 8, 2023 6:43 PM

R200 it was directed at the entire thread…I’m not wasting my own time calling out each and every asshole. If that were required, then no one could ever successfully log out of DL.

by Anonymousreply 203September 8, 2023 6:46 PM

This sentence is outlandish and will be overturned on appeal. Maybe he could make a deal for an Alford Plea and get out on time already served? He's not staying in prison 30 years. No fucking way.

by Anonymousreply 204September 8, 2023 7:01 PM

R204, it’s too late for an Alford plea; he’s been convicted. He should have thought of that earlier.

by Anonymousreply 205September 8, 2023 7:18 PM

R199 I think it would depend on how John Phillips structured his will. John had four other kids in addition to Bijou and was also on his third marriage at the time of his death. I wouldn't be surprised if Mackenzie and the son Jeffrey were cut out of the will.

by Anonymousreply 206September 8, 2023 7:46 PM

R204 is dumb. Or just stupid. More likely, BOTH.

by Anonymousreply 207September 8, 2023 7:49 PM

Re papa john

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by Anonymousreply 208September 8, 2023 7:50 PM

This man is a monster and a moral disaster. On so many different levels that it’s almost hard to comprehend. He put his victims through hell.

I was a That 70s Show fan. And I liked the Hyde character. I’ll never watch it again. Way too tainted with the slime of this depraved criminal. It’s genuinely creepy to me to think of enjoying the show, blissfully unaware of what he was capable of behind the scenes. You just never know when a true psychopath is hiding in plain sight.

Leah Remini is a hero for our times.

by Anonymousreply 209September 8, 2023 8:38 PM

Scott Baio should comment in his defense any moment.

by Anonymousreply 210September 8, 2023 8:41 PM

[quote] I was a That 70s Show fan. And I liked the Hyde character.

Whoa. I never watched That 70s Show. I didn't realize that his character's name was "Hyde." Like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

by Anonymousreply 211September 8, 2023 8:55 PM

I see that Debra Jo Rupp wrote a letter on Danny's behalf. I wonder if she is pals with that cunt Phylicia Rashad.

by Anonymousreply 212September 9, 2023 12:27 AM

R204 what makes you say he won't do his 30 years? In most cases with the Alford plea, the state fears the case could be retried. I see nothing like that here.

by Anonymousreply 213September 9, 2023 12:33 AM

There is no plea here Dora Dumfuck

by Anonymousreply 214September 9, 2023 1:20 AM

Why is there a poster on this thread that seems committed to getting a violent rapist out in 5-7 yrs?

I would have said "who" designating the poster as a human rather than an inert, soulless clam chasing something its owner told it to, even though it cannot articulate the reasons or morality behind the campaign it's on while being paid $70/week and all the rice and moth infested beans it can eat or scrounge from Sea Org kitchens, tables, and garbage cans. A happy place where many Sea Org slaves feast on restaurant dumpsters along the Boulevard after hours after 12 hour shifts.

by Anonymousreply 215September 9, 2023 1:20 AM

Whatever, R215. Thirty years is ridiculous for rape. Some people on here have a mindset straight out of the Middle Ages. You, for example.

If the beatings caused some of the victims permanent physical harm, then I can understand a longer sentence. As far as I know, this didn't happen.

This is an example of a judge making a show of supporting women's rights and coming up with an very harsh, unfair sentence. Ten to fifteen years would have been enough.

This is no different from people on the far right advocating very long, unfair sentences for other crimes.

by Anonymousreply 216September 9, 2023 1:34 AM

I guess we will have to wait and see about his appeals case. But for now that mothafucka in jail for 30 years. Talk about being donkey punched.

by Anonymousreply 217September 9, 2023 1:57 AM

Yes R216, keep acting like 30 years is too harsh for rape and smothering someone to blackout during a rape. Whatever helps you sleep at night freak.

by Anonymousreply 218September 9, 2023 2:07 AM

[quote]This is no different from people on the far right advocating very long, unfair sentences for other crimes.

Possible whataboutism, r216? That's a new one for me.

by Anonymousreply 219September 9, 2023 2:29 AM

You're a laughably fanatical moron, R218. Why do things by half measures? Let's make the automatic penalty for rape life in prison, eg real life in prison where the guy dies in jail. In states where there is the death penalty, let's execute them. Problem solved. No chance of recidivism. Doing anything less means you support the oppression of women and minimalize crimes against women. Idiot. You're carried away by emotion but you don't have an ounce of common sense. You're no different than those raging MAGAT idiots who attacked the Capitol. Let's making the legal system all about catering to our basest instincts. Better to punish too harshly than not enough.

by Anonymousreply 220September 9, 2023 2:39 AM

*Let's make the legal system all about....

by Anonymousreply 221September 9, 2023 2:41 AM

R220 whereas you're not carried away by emotional at all...

by Anonymousreply 222September 9, 2023 2:45 AM

R216 I have misgivings about it too. And it's 30 years to life. He'll be 77, assuming he gets out in 30 years.

Maybe after 15 years, there will be some kind of reassessment. But, other than appeals working, I don't see how he avoids the 30.

I kind of wondered if there might be a case against the retroactive changing of statutes of limitations winding its way through the court system. That whole thing always seemed a bit shakey to me.

by Anonymousreply 223September 9, 2023 2:47 AM

R184 that's disappointing after seeing how Ashton has been fighting against sex crimes, he goes and does that?! Yuck. That makes him look like a hypocrite.

by Anonymousreply 224September 9, 2023 2:49 AM

R220 it IS sad that the gay men here are so reactionary when it comes to the criminal justice system. For some reason, that nasty, ugly trait seems to be hard wired into Americans of all political persuasions, unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 225September 9, 2023 2:50 AM

R224 I give him a pass. It's his friend. Not turning your back on your friend in his darkest hour is not something Kutcher should be dragged for.

by Anonymousreply 226September 9, 2023 2:52 AM

Figures Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis would support a rapist.

by Anonymousreply 227September 9, 2023 2:54 AM

R222, I'm just using the same tone that R215 and R218 is using. He obviously is respectful of anyone with a different point of view.

by Anonymousreply 228September 9, 2023 2:54 AM

R226 shouldn't be in public if he's going to shed tears over rape victims than write letters of support for a rapist... We have a problem with sex crimes being forgiven all the time due to this bs about "well they were a good guy in front of me". Just saying. We can agree to disagree.

by Anonymousreply 229September 9, 2023 2:55 AM

I suggest those defending him look up the details. It's disturbing. He thought he was above the law and treating these women as human beings. I bet no one here would be upset if he was out there gay bashing or commiting other hate crimes. Sexual violence at that level should be considered such. I wouldn't doubt it if he's VIOLENTLY raped other women this way but it wasn't reported or he did it out of the country. These types leave trails of victims. It's disturbing that a few comments here are acting like the sentence is hysteria and that rape isn't so bad, as if the violence wasn't severe.

by Anonymousreply 230September 9, 2023 3:00 AM

R229 No. It's their friend of 25 years, and they likely don't believe he's a rapist. Obviously, they are not objective about the situation, and clearly the judge knew this and disregarded their (and all) letters.

Their letter did not advocate his innocence, or that he be released. I don't have a problem with it. But now it's gonna be a huge scandal for them with all the shrieking and pearl clutching. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 231September 9, 2023 3:01 AM

Let's hope those who advocate for a shorter sentence get anally raped and punched in the face at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 232September 9, 2023 3:03 AM

R220 I don't defend him at all. But I'm not comfortable with his being locked up till he's 77. The judge is basically saying "your life is over at age 47." Doesn't seem just to me. It's just not commiserate with the admittedly awful things he did.

by Anonymousreply 233September 9, 2023 3:05 AM

R231 yeah but they did add things like "he's not a known liar" which is the typical excuse we always hear. Idk feels gross. There's more than 2 victims as well. There were 4 women but they only took testimony from 3 (R233). I'm guessing there's others out there. What do you think is appropriate?

by Anonymousreply 234September 9, 2023 3:06 AM

R242 Ah yes. More compassionate, liberal gays.

by Anonymousreply 235September 9, 2023 3:06 AM

R232 I mean. Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 236September 9, 2023 3:09 AM

[quote] Let's making the legal system all about catering to our basest instincts.

Like the base instinct of....imprisoning violent rapists? Yes, it's so beneath evolved individuals to want to make society safe. So base!

by Anonymousreply 237September 9, 2023 3:09 AM

[quote]I don't defend him at all. But I'm not comfortable with his being locked up till he's 77.

"That '70s Shitshow"

by Anonymousreply 238September 9, 2023 3:10 AM

R234 How is "he's not a known liar" an excuse? I'm sure they were guided by Masterson's attorney as to what might have the possibility to impact the judge. Again, it obviously did not work.

by Anonymousreply 239September 9, 2023 3:11 AM

If 30 is too much, for multiple VIOLENT RAPES, against 4 women known of, that included drugging them and beating them, along with post rape intimidation tactics, like killing pets, again I ask, what is the appropriate sentence? I really want to know. Don't forget they are 15 yr sentences just not concurrent. So what do you all think he should've received?

by Anonymousreply 240September 9, 2023 3:11 AM

Ten years is enough. He'll really think twice about repeating his crimes when he gets out. If he does, throw the book at him.

Twenty five to thirty years is appropriate for murder.

by Anonymousreply 241September 9, 2023 3:14 AM

Uh no. Life in prison is appropriate for murder. Decades in prison is appropriate for a violent sexual crime.

by Anonymousreply 242September 9, 2023 3:18 AM

I find his wife’s letter to be very bizarre. Is it just me?

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by Anonymousreply 243September 9, 2023 3:19 AM

R241 for all the victims? Or per victim? And no regard for the drugging or other violence? This isn't your one time rape, where both parties were drinking and maybe people could argue he made a mistake. This was a habit with a pattern. The other acts along with the rapes, he was confronted about btw, didn't make him "learn a lesson", not even after paying out 400k.

by Anonymousreply 244September 9, 2023 3:19 AM

Won't someone think about how hard it is for the violent rapists?!

by Anonymousreply 245September 9, 2023 3:21 AM

R244 nailed it!

by Anonymousreply 246September 9, 2023 3:21 AM

R240 He was only convicted of two, right? So you're saying people should be punished for crimes they haven't been convicted of? People get way too emotional over this stuff. Turns everyone into an authoritarian. Stop and think a little.

I don't know what he should've gotten, and I'm sure glad I wasn't charged with deciding his punishment. All I can tell you is I don't feel 30 years, basically the rest of his life, is a fair sentence.

Now, the judge followed the law. I believe Masterson did the crimes. He has to serve his time. I just think it's way too much time.

by Anonymousreply 247September 9, 2023 3:21 AM

I'm in Canada R242. We're not as bloodthirsty and vengeful as you Yanks. That's why prisons are a big industry in the U.S.

by Anonymousreply 248September 9, 2023 3:22 AM

R247 here. Damn it, should read 30 years is NOT a fair...

by Anonymousreply 249September 9, 2023 3:25 AM

I've heard Canadians complain about how there is more concern for criminals' lives than victims' lives so it makes sense you're Canadian R248. Good little spineless robots you are.

by Anonymousreply 250September 9, 2023 3:25 AM

Thank you R246 I'm bowing out of the conversation. It's too upsetting. I read their testimonies. He was evil. There's multiple victims. There's violence and intimidation. He's a bad man. R241 no it's not being bloodthirsty. I'm fine with people that made mistakes getting chances. I'm fine with low sentences for non violent crimes. I can not say I'm fine with a serial rapist that felt above it all and no matter how many times he was confronted, even by police, he continued. You're a fool if you think these 4 we're the only ones too. He could've not raped those women. He made that decision. Don't dare put it on others that want justice for those women. I refuse to feel bad for anyone but the victims. If anything, Canada should learn something. They have plenty of instances of violent sex criminals getting out and offending again. Sometimes escalating to murder. Do you feel proud of that? There's a level of sex predators that can not be rehabilitated. It's been proven. Not pedos and not serial rapists.

by Anonymousreply 251September 9, 2023 3:26 AM

R244, as R247 pointed out, he was convicted of two rapes. Ten years for all the convictions. When he's let out at 57, his best years will be behind him.

by Anonymousreply 252September 9, 2023 3:28 AM

Does anyone have a link to court docs stating what he did?

by Anonymousreply 253September 9, 2023 3:28 AM

[quote] read their testimonies


by Anonymousreply 254September 9, 2023 3:29 AM

He deserved to have the book thrown at him, and he did. The fact that he's a creepy Scientologist and that the "church" tried to protect him makes the outcome even more satisfying.

by Anonymousreply 255September 9, 2023 3:30 AM

Your mischaracterization of the Canadian justice system makes me laugh, R250.

by Anonymousreply 256September 9, 2023 3:30 AM

In Canada you can stab someone on a Greyhound bus and eat their face and still get paroled.

by Anonymousreply 257September 9, 2023 3:31 AM

R248 Yeah, for some reason, we Americans see other people as not being actual humans. "Oh yeah throw him away for 30 years and forget him." The reality of this person waking up every single day for the rest of his long life in prison doesn't seem to get through.

I have this fight on here every time Leslie Van Houten comes up for parole. They want to keep a 76 year old lady locked up for something she did at age 19, under the influence of a possibly CIA trained mad man who used drugs to control her. Just petty and ugly.

by Anonymousreply 258September 9, 2023 3:31 AM

Well as long as his best years are behind him, then there's no need to take a violent rapist off the streets for several years.

He shouldn't even get ten years for his crimes, actually. The humiliation of being convicted will make him think twice about committing rape again.

by Anonymousreply 259September 9, 2023 3:32 AM

[quote]If anything, Canada should learn something. They have plenty of instances of violent sex criminals getting out and offending again. Sometimes escalating to murder.

The same thing happens in the U.S., R251. Oprah has talked about such cases on her show more than once.

by Anonymousreply 260September 9, 2023 3:33 AM

R256 doubt it

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by Anonymousreply 261September 9, 2023 3:33 AM

R261, see R260.

by Anonymousreply 262September 9, 2023 3:35 AM

[quote]Yeah, for some reason, we Americans see other people as not being actual humans.

Masterson is an evil bastard who is severely lacking in humanity.

by Anonymousreply 263September 9, 2023 3:35 AM

I get your point, R258. But I would reply that every single case is different, and many people would say the cases of Leslie Van Houten and Danny Masterson, to pick only two examples, are EXTREMELY different. That's one of the reasons why judges have such great latitude when imposing sentences.

by Anonymousreply 264September 9, 2023 3:36 AM

Well then, R259, the sentence should be 60 years in prison. That's not excessive at all. He might still be alive at 77.

by Anonymousreply 265September 9, 2023 3:39 AM

10 years is enough for this MeToo shit. There was no actual evidence to convict him. There needs to be a statute of limitations on these sex crime accusations, where the victims were adults.

by Anonymousreply 266September 9, 2023 3:39 AM

Even the most liberal of Canadians are getting fed up with the lack of punishment R261.

by Anonymousreply 267September 9, 2023 3:40 AM

Rape is a made up crime. If there's no camera footage then it didn't happen.

by Anonymousreply 268September 9, 2023 3:42 AM

R265 but then a violent rapist's life will be over! SO unjust.

by Anonymousreply 269September 9, 2023 3:46 AM

R259 I am sure all the women he tormented would not agree with you. I hope you never experience what his victims experienced. I hope he fits in jail and spends the whole 30 years in prison. He is a self entitled worm scum!

by Anonymousreply 270September 9, 2023 3:48 AM

Honestly, I’d like to hear someone who has been raped and who has also spent years in prison come forward and compare the two. I think such a person would be the best person to judge how many years in prison is proportional to the crime of rape.

I have questions about how many years are appropriate since this happened years ago and he has a daughter who. The victims are not the only stakeholders, his family are also stakeholders.

by Anonymousreply 271September 9, 2023 3:48 AM

Yes, R269. We can't take the chance of him learning his lesson and not raping again after the age of 57. There's no such thing as a sentence that's too harsh. It just something dreamed up by bleeding heart liberals.

by Anonymousreply 272September 9, 2023 3:51 AM

His daughters and or other family members are irrelevant. That's not how courts make decision unless they were part of the crime. I hope you never serve on Jury Duty, you don't sound like the brightest bulb in the room.

by Anonymousreply 273September 9, 2023 3:55 AM

Totally R272. Middle aged men never commit sexual crimes, what's the point of sending them to prison? Makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 274September 9, 2023 3:57 AM

I think spending ten years in prison will make him think twice, R274.

by Anonymousreply 275September 9, 2023 3:59 AM

R275 ten years is too long, you vengeful heartless bastard. We don't want to take a violent rapist out of society, we just want him to think twice.

by Anonymousreply 276September 9, 2023 4:06 AM

R9 appreciate the reference to the AP Style Manual but we needn’t follow it on DL. OP may simply prefer styling his posts per The New Yorker, which spells out all numbers, even dollar amounts. Or it used to—haven't read it in a while.

by Anonymousreply 277September 9, 2023 4:07 AM

You're trolling, R276. I will ignore you from now on. Good day, sir.

by Anonymousreply 278September 9, 2023 4:12 AM

You sound like a lovely person, R266.

by Anonymousreply 279September 9, 2023 4:13 AM

You catch on quick, genius R278. Good to see you leaving, as your take on this was completely moronic.

by Anonymousreply 280September 9, 2023 4:15 AM

R266 One of the most heartless, bone-chilling comments I’ve ever read on here. And that’s saying something on Datalounge! I can only hope your trolling.

by Anonymousreply 281September 9, 2023 4:21 AM

Following on r277, one very handy style element pertains to multi-paragraph quotations. This convention requires an open-quote mark at the beginning of each successive paragraph (but no close-quote mark until the final para).

This signals to the reader that the quotation is ongoing, and saves him or her from having to search for the single little close-quotation mark several paragraphs away.

Or you can indent the whole quotation, which serves the same purpose.

Anyway, appreciate the quote from Rimini, thanks, r115.

by Anonymousreply 282September 9, 2023 4:41 AM

[quote]Rape is a made up crime. If there's no camera footage then it didn't happen.

A court of law requires actual evidence and proof beyond a reasonable doubt for a criminal conviction. “Believe all victims” shouldn’t be the legal standard, despite what an insane woman like Rose McGowan says.

by Anonymousreply 283September 9, 2023 5:14 AM

R273, I understand that’s not how courts think, and I think the system is wrong for not considering family members.

by Anonymousreply 284September 9, 2023 6:29 AM

I’m sure there are a lot of nervous men in Hollywood right about now…

by Anonymousreply 285September 9, 2023 6:29 AM

[QUOTE]Whatever, [R215].

Behold a slave to the cult who minimizes violent, life-threatening rape as "whatever" to please its masters.

by Anonymousreply 286September 9, 2023 6:37 AM

Danny Mastodon when he gets out.

by Anonymousreply 287September 9, 2023 8:04 AM

So hard on him!

by Anonymousreply 288September 9, 2023 8:05 AM

I HOPE he’s raped in prison as gets donkey punched.

by Anonymousreply 289September 9, 2023 2:33 PM

R210, he’s another POS.

Has he FINALLY moved out of Thousand Oaks?

I loathe that little fucker, & I hope he moves to Texas, so that he can melt away in the Texas summertime heat, & be gone for good.

by Anonymousreply 290September 9, 2023 3:16 PM

DM looks mean as hell. Mean eyes.

by Anonymousreply 291September 9, 2023 3:54 PM

Sheesh, R271! You cannot fathom that this man is INDEED, a violent rapist when alone with the women he raped, can you?

He drugged them. He punched them. He sodomized them violently. He held a gun to the head of another. He smothered them with pillows until they blacked out. He dragged them around the house as they were unconscious. He stuck one in the hot tip so that the drugs would kick in faster and more efficiently, which can EASILY kill anyone of any sex, weight, height or age. He threatened their lives. He had his cohorts following his victims. Hr had his cohorts terrorize them and intimidate them regularly. He had his cohorts poison & kill their dogs/pets. He held one victim hostage in her own home for several days while repeatedly drugging & raping her. He strangled some of them until they lost consciousness. It was so bad, his attorneys advised him to pay one victim $400,000.00.

You & others here honestly believe 30 years is too much for this violent sex offender?

No one should care more about planning for/starting/having a family than he should have.

He fucked himself & his own family over by being a violent rapist who was a repeat offender.

Wanna discuss appropriate or unfair punishment, and sentencing?

Lemme tell ya what: Had he been a poor black man, not in the COS, chances are he would have been sentenced to life behind bars, without any possibility of parole, even if the poor black man was completely innocent & wrongly accused.

You wanna discuss unfair, wrongful sentencing? Why don’t you start by researching the HUNDREDS OF BLACK MEN EHO HAVE BEEN WRONGLY ACCUSED AND HAVE SERVED LIFE BEHIND BARS OR HAVE BEEN UNJUSTLY PUT TO DEATH???

I’m sorry, but you & all of these rape apologists on this thread can go fuck right off.

by Anonymousreply 292September 9, 2023 4:03 PM

R292, stop calling me a rape apologist.

If he had been tried and convicted closer to the time the events happened, I don’t particularly think 30 years is too long. However, these rapes happened 20 years ago, and circumstances have changed since then — he’s older, less likely to offend again, and he has a daughter who will grow,up,without a father (although it can be argued she’s better off without him).. I don’t think he should get off scot free, but I’m skeptical that 30 years serves any purpose at this point. There are other remedies. There is such thing as a Goldilocks punishment (too lenient, too severe, just right).

For the record, Rodney Reed is not an innocent black man sitting in prison for raping and killing Stacy Stites. And Bill Cosby got out of prison.

by Anonymousreply 293September 9, 2023 4:31 PM

R177= Paranoid Psychotic Thundercunt who shits in the corner when men are in the room, you're not fooling anybody. Someone needs to take your jitterbug phone and restrict internet access at your nursing home. You are way too angry at someone you don't know or can't even see. Take a dose of Miralax and unclench you fat whore.

by Anonymousreply 294September 9, 2023 4:50 PM

R181 You're a stupid whore

by Anonymousreply 295September 9, 2023 4:52 PM

What the hell does the age of a criminal have to do with it? Giving someone a lenient sentence because they got away with a crime for years is probably the dumbest thing I've heard. Almost as dumb as giving someone a lenient sentence because they have a child.

Here's a thought: if you don't want your future children to grow up without a father, don't brutally attack people when you're young.

by Anonymousreply 296September 9, 2023 4:54 PM

R292 for all of that, life in prison would be kindness he doesn't deserve.

by Anonymousreply 297September 9, 2023 5:07 PM

I hope he shaves his bussy down to skin, cause they’re going to put some serious mileage on that sweet tight hole!

by Anonymousreply 298September 9, 2023 5:09 PM

r296 r297 r298

by Anonymousreply 299September 9, 2023 5:24 PM

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by Anonymousreply 300September 9, 2023 5:25 PM

[quote] When he's let out at 57, his best years will be behind him.

He has to do 30 years before he’ll have a chance at parole. He’ll be nearly 80.

by Anonymousreply 301September 9, 2023 5:33 PM

Does he have a big dick?

by Anonymousreply 302September 9, 2023 5:34 PM

[quote] He stuck one in the hot tip so that the drugs would kick in faster

The what?

by Anonymousreply 303September 9, 2023 5:35 PM

"Judge, please show leniency. Danny was always really nice to me at the craft services table."

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by Anonymousreply 305September 9, 2023 5:37 PM

I hope the poster who keeps posting the replies of posters he's blocked gets raped and donkey punched by Danny Masterson.

by Anonymousreply 306September 9, 2023 5:40 PM

R293, he committed violent rapes repeatedly.

Why does it matter that it happened 20 plus years ago?

BTK, who was a serial killer, as well as the Golden State serial rapist/serial killer, were both apprehended YEARS after they committed their crimes.

Should they too, get a more lenient sentence because time has passed since their last offense?

Danny Masterson is NOT a good person.

Have you ever been bamboozled by a horrible human being, who happens to be absolutely wonderful to you or others, yet behind closed doors, is someone and something that is absolutely in unbelievable and incomprehensible to you or others, R293?

Sadly, I have, and it pretty much broke me.

I couldn’t believe someone I absolutely loved, respected & genuinely trusted as if though he were my very own father, was REPEATEDLY physically/mentally/emotionally abusing my mother for YEARS, behind closed doors.

Guess what? He was. And not only did he harm her, as he also harmed every single woman he had been married to, before my own mom, which by the way, hid his past and multiple marriages from me and our family, other than the one to his first wife, whom we all thought had been his only previous marriage.

I can spend days telling you or anyone, really, how screwed up this man was/is, & I can honestly tell you that I or any of us in my family had a single clue what kind of man my mother brought into our family.

Let’s hypothetically propose that my mother’s current husband hasn’t beaten her in 20 years… what exactly does that do?

My mom is a complete shell of a human being now. Every time she ended up or ends up hospitalized, I wonder if the reason given for the hospitalization is/was truthful.

This man runs around acting like the most WONDERFUL person, and guess what? He IS WONDERFUL to MANY people, as long as they don’t live with him, and oppose him regarding anything, whatsoever, behind closed doors.

Masterson profoundly hurt others, R293. I am able to objectively understand your POV, however, he absolutely, truly hurt these women & possibly more, & he deserves his sentence, even if indicted/charged/sentenced 20 plus years later.

He treated these women like garbage, R293. He had ZERO regard for their comfort, health, safety, mental health, physical well being, their personhood, or even their lives and the PTSD one grapples with when victimized by someone like himself.

He didn’t give one flying fuck about his victims, R293. He really, really didn’t, which is why I find his sentence fair, as I have no doubt that at one time, he actually believed he’d gotten away with his crimes.

He’s a REALLY bad man, R293. He really, TRULY is, and I hope that someday, on some level, you can view this in its entirety and reality, and eventually understand that bad people like this are sociopaths who fool MANY, and that his lengthy incarceration is just, because I can promise you that speaking from personal experience?

Men like DM do NOT become better people. They harm others all the way, until the day they drop dead.

by Anonymousreply 307September 9, 2023 6:23 PM

R300- Did anyone else feel that Conon disliked DM and was aware of his violent behavior? Because I did. It didn't seem as if he was just joking when he told DM he was going to get caught one day . If Conon knew what DM was foung then it is a reasonable assumption that everyone in Hollywood knew too.

by Anonymousreply 308September 9, 2023 6:37 PM

Doing ^

by Anonymousreply 309September 9, 2023 6:37 PM

God I hate how crimes bring out the conspiracy theories.

by Anonymousreply 310September 9, 2023 6:43 PM

Which conspiracy theory are you alluding to, R310?

by Anonymousreply 311September 9, 2023 6:47 PM

Some of you people are reading WAY too much into that clip of DM with Conan. First of all, DM's comment was not bout raping or even having sex with someone, it was just a passing vulgarity about "do you wanna touch my balls," and it seemed clear to me that Conan was offhandedly joking when he said "You're going to get caught for that." Maybe I'm naive, but if Conan had actually heard that DM was a rapist or sexual predator, I REALLY don't think he would have made an offhand joke about it on national TV.

by Anonymousreply 312September 9, 2023 6:53 PM

R312, MANY jokes were made regarding Bill Cosby as well, before he was eventually charged/sentenced.

Another POS who deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars, yet unfortunately, is not.

by Anonymousreply 313September 9, 2023 6:58 PM

Also, just want to add that going after other celebrities or others who didn’t explicitly and purposefully enable DM, is fucking ridiculous.

DM committed these crimes, not Conan O’Brian, or AK & MK.

by Anonymousreply 314September 9, 2023 7:01 PM

[quote]these rapes happened 20 years ago, and circumstances have changed since then — he’s older, less likely to offend again

What you don't know about the criminal mind is a lot.

by Anonymousreply 315September 9, 2023 7:03 PM

"Kutcher — who submitted his letter using his legal name, Christopher A. Kutcher — said his friend, whom he considers a “brother,” is a “role model," “extraordinarily honest” and “nothing but a positive influence” on him. Kutcher said that in the 25 years they’ve known each other, Masterson has never lied to him, and he credited Masterson for helping him avoid drugs in Hollywood as a young star".-YAHOO Entertainment

I wonder how the victims feel hearing that some are trying to make their rapist sound like a good guy?

by Anonymousreply 316September 9, 2023 7:59 PM

R176 never watched the show and never heard of Masterson until the allegations.

by Anonymousreply 317September 9, 2023 8:47 PM

[QUOTE]By all reports, [R191], she’s a big cunt, so I’m sure no one cares.

Maybe one of her sisters might? They've all had rough upbringings as a matter of degree. Chynna seems to have been spared John, but she's still a mess in her own way

I just read Bijou's Wiki. Wow. There's not much hope for her.

[QUOTE]At 14, Phillips left school and moved into her own apartment with a housekeeper, just off Fifth Avenue.[5] Once described by The Observer as a "wild child", she experienced a rebellious childhood in New York City, where she used to party, drink and take drugs, such as cocaine, ecstasy, and heroin.[5] On this period of her life, she remarked: "If you were 14 years old and able to live on your own in an apartment in New York City, and you got invited to all these clubs, and you got a bank account and you had a car service you could call so that you could go wherever you wanted ... What would happen?".[5]

by Anonymousreply 318September 9, 2023 9:19 PM

[quote] Almost as dumb as giving someone a lenient sentence because they have a child.

I worked in the court system for years and two things happened frequently before sentencing: men would feign heart problems before entering the courtroom and women would bring and/or use ‘but I’m a mother!’

by Anonymousreply 319September 9, 2023 9:27 PM

Whoa, dude…

by Anonymousreply 320September 9, 2023 9:29 PM

So now Mila and Ashton have apologized for writing the letter.

The backlash was furious.

by Anonymousreply 321September 9, 2023 9:42 PM

Fucking celebrities always think they have to make statements, speak out, etc. JUST SHUT UP, IDIOTS.

by Anonymousreply 322September 9, 2023 9:46 PM

Where did they apologize for writing that letter?

by Anonymousreply 323September 9, 2023 9:50 PM

They both seem very angry that they had to apologize. They are assholes just like their serial rapist friend. You know, the shining example of kindness? 🤨

by Anonymousreply 324September 9, 2023 9:53 PM

I'm honestly surprised they said anything. If they hadn't perhaps it would have blown over. It's pretty obvious they didn't think their letter would become public but the apology video made them look like complete idiots.

R322 they are not people who can sit quietly.

by Anonymousreply 325September 9, 2023 9:57 PM

R307, thank you for your thoroughly reasoned response.

by Anonymousreply 326September 9, 2023 9:58 PM

As if they are really sorry. I hope Ashton and Mila get cancelled. Freaking idiots.

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by Anonymousreply 327September 9, 2023 10:29 PM

Leah Remini & Mike Rinder react to Masterson's sentence.

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by Anonymousreply 328September 9, 2023 10:40 PM

If I were Ashton and Mila I would tell everyone whinging about the letters (including R327) to go fuck themselves. They wrote a letter attesting to what they know about their friend. Letters that made no difference. Outrage culture is tiresome. Danny is a criminal, and he got the sentence he deserved. All Ashton and Milla did was write letters. It isn't like they held the women down while Danny raped them.

by Anonymousreply 329September 9, 2023 10:43 PM

R329, but writing a letter stating that Danny Masterson had been a well-behaved friend and a good colleague in a work environment when he was reliably accused of several violent rapes is equivalent to someone having written a letter stating, for example, that Bill Cosby was nice to old ladies on the street. First of all, one thing has NOTHING to do with the other, and also, it's offensive to stress someone's good points when they're reliably accused of doing something so awful.

by Anonymousreply 330September 9, 2023 11:02 PM

Women are power drunk with the attitude shift towards persecution of anyone deemed a rapist. Women are just lucky that mental abuse isn’t illegal or they’d all be in jail.

by Anonymousreply 331September 9, 2023 11:08 PM

Something so creepy now about Ashton . Almost trying too hard to be perceived as a wholesome down to earth guy

by Anonymousreply 332September 9, 2023 11:09 PM

Ashton is shrewd and a good businessman. Don’t let his goofy/frat boy persona fool you.

by Anonymousreply 334September 9, 2023 11:12 PM

R330 reliably accused, my ass. You’re another Dora Dumbfuck. He was convicted, twice.

by Anonymousreply 335September 9, 2023 11:14 PM

R335, I'm on your side, asshole. My point was that Kutcher and Kunis shouldn't have written that letter. My mistake for forgetting it was written after the convictions.

by Anonymousreply 336September 9, 2023 11:29 PM

Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher showed INCREDIBLY poor judgement, at best, writing those letters. It’s not like Masterson was being tried over a misdemeanour traffic violation or something. These weren’t “mistakes” or indiscretions of youth. The kind of violence he perpetrated against these women puts him in the very twisted criminal category. And obviously the victims were found to be credible in a court of law.

I think this will haunt them for a long time. And rightly so.

by Anonymousreply 337September 9, 2023 11:40 PM

What is it about "donkey punch" does Ashton not understand?

by Anonymousreply 338September 9, 2023 11:56 PM

I donkey punched Wilmer Vaderrama on an episode of Punk'd! It was epicly hilarious

by Anonymousreply 339September 10, 2023 12:00 AM

When will Muriel red-tag & banish, R331?

Please get rid of him, M.

He’s a complete POS, & shouldn’t be here.

by Anonymousreply 340September 10, 2023 12:56 AM

R340 needs her little YASSSSS KWEEN FEMME POC EQUITY Echo Chamber or she doesn’t feel safe. Eat shit, cunt!

by Anonymousreply 341September 10, 2023 1:01 AM

R307, you don’t need to tell us your story a billion times. Hard to fathom, I know, but none of this is about you and you just sound like a self centered, disordered asshole.

by Anonymousreply 342September 10, 2023 1:09 AM

Back pedaling much?

Ashton Kutcher & Mila Kunis Address Backlash Over Masterson Letters

They look so stressed out.

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by Anonymousreply 343September 10, 2023 2:01 AM

Ashton looks like a drunk nick.

by Anonymousreply 344September 10, 2023 2:03 AM

^^^hick not nick

by Anonymousreply 345September 10, 2023 2:04 AM

[Quote] Fucking celebrities always think they have to make statements, speak out, etc. JUST SHUT UP, IDIOTS.


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by Anonymousreply 346September 10, 2023 2:17 AM

It’s probably like serial killers only being tried and convicted for a couple victims when there were 10+. They go with the ones they have the most evidence for.

by Anonymousreply 347September 10, 2023 2:45 AM

Ashton talks about his day job

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by Anonymousreply 348September 10, 2023 3:19 AM

Quote] Fucking celebrities always think they have to make statements, speak out, etc. JUST SHUT UP, IDIOTS.

Now they speak out

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by Anonymousreply 349September 10, 2023 3:22 AM

Its kind of hilarious how people judge celebs. Like I genuinely remember the behind the laughter That 70s show thing (that's apparently been scrubbed from the internet) and everyone said Topher Grace was a cunt for never getting on with the rest of the cast. Now everyone's saying he's a hero for lasting as long with them as he did.

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by Anonymousreply 351September 10, 2023 4:08 AM

R331 Do you feel SOOO powerful with your misogynistic bullshit on an anonymous gay website?

by Anonymousreply 352September 10, 2023 4:13 AM

Murderers literally get less time.

No toxicology evidenced was produced - so we can't say that he drugged them for certain.

3 of the 4 accusers were Scientologists. Not exactly trustworthy people in a court of law.

I've heard of these accusations for years - a decade or more? I just don't see how they were able to conclusively prove this? I'm not defending him - I'm just wondering what other evidence they had?

by Anonymousreply 353September 10, 2023 4:19 AM

^Actually it depends on the circumstances of the murder. There are honestly acts of murder that I’ve read about that I find less heinous than this guys crimes as described by the victims. Truly evil.

by Anonymousreply 354September 10, 2023 4:24 AM

How do the clams view suicide?

by Anonymousreply 355September 10, 2023 4:25 AM

R353 California woke metoo psychos. I’m thinking ex-Scientology revenge

by Anonymousreply 356September 10, 2023 4:25 AM

R354 - where can I find their testimony? WORSE than a violent murder?

You sound hyperbolic.

by Anonymousreply 357September 10, 2023 4:29 AM

[quote]He held one victim hostage in her own home for several days while repeatedly drugging & raping her.

Did they miss their church service that week or did this event occur afterwards or in between? What day of the week do Scientologists gather to worship? Is it on Sunday or a different day than most of the other religions?

by Anonymousreply 358September 10, 2023 4:30 AM

You go girl!!!

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by Anonymousreply 359September 10, 2023 4:31 AM

So I read the 3 testimonies. One woman was at a club all night and went back to his house with some friends - at which time she had her one and only drink for the night.

Another one said she was over at his place with 20-30 other people and she had a drink in the hot tub and she got woozy and threw up and that he ended up putting her in a shower and washing her breasts. Ummm - to get the VOMIT off?

The only evidence they had was their testimonies - no physical or toxicology evidence. And all 3 met and spoke with each other before pressing charges.

One of the accusers was an ex-girlfriend.

This doesn't sound so airtight to me. And to give him 30 years?

by Anonymousreply 360September 10, 2023 4:44 AM

R360 Welcome to the Age of Female Logic.

by Anonymousreply 361September 10, 2023 4:51 AM

He’s a piece of shit. So glad his cult wasn’t able to protect him anymore. Or his celebrity buddies.

by Anonymousreply 362September 10, 2023 4:54 AM

Okay, I don't get this at all. No matter how much you like someone, would you want it on public record that you tried to help a rapist get leniency? Wouldn't you have felt confused, angry, depressed and even fooled/manipulated after finding out your beloved brother-in-law actually raped and tortured several women?

[quote]Billy Baldwin Says He Doesn’t Know Anyone ‘More Beloved Than Danny Masterson’ in Letter to Judge

[quote]Baldwin, whose wife Chynna Phillips is sister to Masterson's wife Bijou Phillips, was one of several celebrities to write a letter in his support to the judge ahead of Thursday's sentencing

[quote]Billy Baldwin was one of several friends of Danny Masterson to write a letter in his support ahead of Thursday's sentencing for two rape convictions.

[quote]The seasoned actor, whose wife Chynna Phillips is sister to Masterson's wife Bijou Phillips, explained he'd known his sister-in-law since she was 10 and considers himself a "father figure" to her, per a letter to Judge Charlaine Olmedo that was obtained by The Messenger. (Former co-stars including Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis as well as first responders also wrote letters on Masterson's behalf.)

[quote]"I know that Danny has been convicted of a very serious crime and is facing a lengthy prison sentence," added Baldwin, in part. "The purpose of this letter is to inform you about the Danny Masterson that I know. Danny the man, the friend, colleague, family member, husband, and father. Things that were not discussed in court but I think are vitally important for you to know."

[quote]In his 35 years as an actor, Billy wrote that he "can say unequivocally that I have never known anyone that is more beloved than Danny Masterson."

[quote]"Never in my entire life have I had more people refer to someone as 'family,' 'my brother' and 'best friend' than Danny," he added. "Many of them have told me that he was there for them in their 'greatest hour of need' and 'the darkest hour of their life.'"

[quote]He praised Masterson for "the enormous role" he played in helping his single mother raise his younger (now-adult) siblings, which he "continues to serve in that capacity to this day."

[quote]Baldwin said Masterson was also there for him when his son Vance was diagnosed with cancer at 16, and for Bijou when she need a life-saving kidney transplant.

[quote]Since he has been incarcerated, I have heard him on the phone with his daughter helping her with her math homework while she tries to navigate through this devastating life-changing event at only nine years old," he wrote.

[quote]Baldwin concluded, "I have truly never met a person that was a more caring, dedicated, trustworthy, and loyal family member and friend. I pray to God that you will consider the entirety of who Danny is when considering his sentence."

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by Anonymousreply 363September 10, 2023 4:55 AM

Yep, R350. I think it was an E: True Hollywood Story about T7S...in which someone said Topher was aloof & kind of removed from the rest of the (younger) cast. All because he didn't hang out with them "off the clock", going to clubs & parties -- which made him *sound* like he was a jerk/ass/difficult (at the time).

Which he wasn't. He just did his "work" and went home.

All this bullshit about being Danny anti-drugs/the cast not being into drugs.....

Whether or not they partook of (hard) drugs ...they liked to drink plenty! On Friday nights, after the audience-tapings, the booze flowed freely on the Radford lot. They had poker parties in their dressing rooms, and then spilled out (in their cars) onto the streets of Studio City at 2-3 am. Meanwhile, Topher was outta there within a half-hour of the final "cut!"

by Anonymousreply 364September 10, 2023 4:56 AM

R357 Well maybe my statement was a little hyperbolic… Look, it’s obvious that all murder is wrong, just like all rape is wrong. But there are degrees of severity in both crimes. Not all murders are violent. Certainly not all of them are premeditated. And some deaths come about as a result of someone flying into a rage and hitting someone and that person dies. More tragic than ghastly. And yes I’m aware that these cases could count more as manslaughter. But still.

When I read the victims statements I truly felt sick to my stomach. I thought only someone seething with hatred of women and a darkly violent soul could do this to another human being. Someone who gets off on the destruction of another person. The drugging. The yelling. The belittling. The choking. The punching. The dragging. The violent sodomizing.The forced confinement. The covering up. The intimidation. Vile and dark stuff.

Many of us are reacting emotionally to this case. 30 years is a stiff sentence. But think of all the rape cases, famous or otherwise, where the perp gets 1 year, or 2 years, or time off for good behaviour. Many of us feel that rape convictions should come with much harsher sentences than the precedents have dictated. I just can’t cry in my beer over Danny Masterson.

by Anonymousreply 365September 10, 2023 5:20 AM

R365 - but there is no evidence, physical or otherwise, for their statements.

I read their statements - and they were, frankly, a little unbelievable. One victim is out clubbing all night completely sober comes back with SEVERAL people also there, has one drink FINALLY at his house, then wakes up to him having sex with her? She only had one drink the whole night - and only at his place?

The other woman was there with 20-30 other people with the whole vomiting thing. None of her friends went to check on her? Do you think it's something he would do would 20-30 other people in the house?

The 3rd woman was a former girlfriend and said he raped her when she came home from Paris and was tired and he wanted to have sex because he hadn't seen her in so long and she was too tired.

None of these stories - the majority by Scientologists - sound extremely believable. Particularly because all the victims spoke with each other before pressing charges.

Did no one else in his circle hear or see any bad behavior?

Where is all of this other stuff you talk about - the choking, punching, dragging, etc? Was that his former struggling actress girlfriend who waited YEARS to talk about it?

And yes - the length of time DOES matter in coming forward when supposedly it's so serious.

To send someone away for 30 years PURELY ON TESTIMONY is insane.

by Anonymousreply 366September 10, 2023 5:40 AM

R365 has got her engorged clit in a twist. She’s a persecution junkie.

by Anonymousreply 367September 10, 2023 5:43 AM

I read he’s under a mental health watch.

by Anonymousreply 368September 10, 2023 7:27 AM

R322 = Susan Dey

by Anonymousreply 369September 10, 2023 7:44 AM

R366: I can smell your CLAM stench through my screen.

by Anonymousreply 370September 10, 2023 9:01 AM

R363 What people like Billy Baldwin don't understand is you can know someone for thirty years and only know the face they're showing you, you don't know what they're showing to someone else when you're not around. In cases like this I think of Paula Dietz the unsuspecting wife of "BTK" killer Dennis Rader. She was married to a man for 34 years and had no idea he was one of the most prolific serial killers in American history.

by Anonymousreply 371September 10, 2023 9:58 AM

Billy Baldwin,

[quote]The seasoned actor

by Anonymousreply 372September 10, 2023 10:00 AM

R172 Ashton and Mila are sheltered Hollywood dimwits.

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by Anonymousreply 373September 10, 2023 12:05 PM

R363 what people like R371 don’t understand is that Billy’s letter was full of bullshit, and that Billy líkely didn’t even write it. It was set up for his signature and his wife insisted he sign it. It’s no reflection of what he might actually think or feel. It’s performative.

by Anonymousreply 374September 10, 2023 12:12 PM

[QUOTE] Why didn’t he flee to Europe?

Cause they don't want him either.

by Anonymousreply 375September 10, 2023 12:16 PM

I haven’t yet read the whole thread yet, but am I the only one who’s never heard of donkey punch until reading it on here? I just imagined that after 40+ years of sexual encounters I’d heard of everything, I wonder how many other weird and awful things have passed me by.

by Anonymousreply 376September 10, 2023 12:27 PM

Good thing Tanya Roberts passed on.

I'd hate to think her having written a support letter only to suffer cancelation and backlash.

by Anonymousreply 377September 10, 2023 12:30 PM

If you re-watch old interviews with Masterson, he definitely has a very dark, sinister energy.

When That Seventies Show was first popular, I vaguely remember thinking there was something very “off” about him. I’d normally be crazy for a cute, funny, sardonic character / actor but he was very off-putting.

Wasn’t there an arc in which he dated Jackie? I remember thinking he came off like an abuser when paired with Jackie.

by Anonymousreply 378September 10, 2023 12:31 PM

Jackie Kennedy? Phew, she dodged a bullet.

by Anonymousreply 379September 10, 2023 1:32 PM

[quote]Am I the only one who’s never heard of donkey punch until reading it on here? I

You are NOT the only one. I had to look it up, and I was horrified but what I found.

by Anonymousreply 380September 10, 2023 1:44 PM

I had heard about it, but thought it was just a sick joke.

I mean, does anyone really perform a dirty sanchez?

by Anonymousreply 381September 10, 2023 1:48 PM

[QUOTE] You are NOT the only one. I had to look it up, and I was horrified but what I found.

Mary! What a straight arrow you must be.

by Anonymousreply 382September 10, 2023 2:04 PM

Shut the fuck up R374 my point still stands whether he wrote the letter or not. I was commenting on society on general not your need for tit for tat you cunt

by Anonymousreply 383September 10, 2023 2:06 PM

He's a douchenozzle and it's too bad he didn't get a longer sentence.

by Anonymousreply 384September 10, 2023 2:12 PM

I remember a few years ago, seeing some pictures of him drinking with Jon Hamm at a bar across the street from the Scientology building. It really creeped me out for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 385September 10, 2023 2:20 PM

R371 is still trippin’ off some pill he pooped last night….making no sense. Go to sleep.

by Anonymousreply 386September 10, 2023 2:28 PM

Popped. Pooped. Either works for that one.

by Anonymousreply 387September 10, 2023 2:29 PM

R386 G9 fuck yourself you self righteous cunt. Trip on that

by Anonymousreply 388September 10, 2023 3:09 PM

Girls, girls

by Anonymousreply 389September 10, 2023 3:12 PM

Bless your heart. The faux outrage is so…tiresome. Get some rest.

by Anonymousreply 390September 10, 2023 3:12 PM

G9! You sank my battleship!

by Anonymousreply 391September 10, 2023 3:15 PM

The pretentious moralizing cunt R386 R391 is such a bore who can't read a room. Go to reddit

by Anonymousreply 392September 10, 2023 3:47 PM

Thanks for the tip, Danny Boy.

by Anonymousreply 393September 10, 2023 3:56 PM

Um..clearly the room does not agree with your underlying assertion that Danny kept his true self from friends and family. It was there all along.

Read the thread—in full. Not just the parts you think might make you feel superior.

by Anonymousreply 394September 10, 2023 4:30 PM

It wouldn't be the first time the room was wrong, R394. So you're saying that Ashton and Mila knew Masterson was a violent rapist but they were incredibly stupid enough to stick up for him publicly anyways. They couldn't have just kept quiet. Just because someone has an odd, off-putting personality and doesn't come off well in interviews and makes jokes in poor taste that fall flat, doesn't make them a major criminal. They heard the allegations but did not want to believe them because they could not imagine him doing something like that.

You'd make one hell of an investigator, R394, jumping to conclusions.

by Anonymousreply 395September 10, 2023 4:41 PM

It seems like a majority of us had to look up donkey punch. It's kind of sweet that there still a little bit of naiveté in a room full of old whores.

[QUOTE]I remember a few years ago, seeing some pictures of him drinking with Jon Hamm at a bar across the street from the Scientology building.

Isn't amazing that Scientology is perfectly OK with alcohol but antidepressants and other psychiatric meds (or even any mental health treatment) is forbidden? I'm fascinated by r175's post. I've only seen the report of being in a medical unit for alcohol detox on the Medium website. Longtime, maintenance alcoholics can appear to be sober when they're really not. It helps explain his sinister edge if he was always under the influence.

David Miscavige is also reportedly an alcoholic. One of the people who left the cult (can't recall the name) said that every evening he'd break out the scotch. On some occasions, he'd gather some of his lieutenants and they'd read Tom Cruise's auditing files. I kid you not. Can you imagine being a fly in the wall?

by Anonymousreply 396September 10, 2023 4:56 PM

R396 - but here's the thing - I remember when the term 'donkey punch' was going around in the early 2000's. No one had heard of it because...it was totally made up. A scandalous act that supposedly people are doing - but they weren't.

Urban myth that people started talking about because it was so out there. Some people still believe live gerbils went up Richard Gere's asshole too.

The fact that he used it briefly as a 'funny' DJ name means absolutely nothing.

by Anonymousreply 397September 10, 2023 5:01 PM

R132 Yea, it’s scary when people become that dependent. I get the appeal, in a way, of wanting to be taken care of by someone with money and connections. The older I get though, the more I realize it’s important to have your own ‘F*ck You” money, so you can walk away if needed.

by Anonymousreply 398September 10, 2023 5:05 PM

R398 - well, that's HER side of the story - that she waited 15 years to tell.

Door was open the entire time. No kids, no divorce needed.

But she stayed because....MONEY and because he was famous and she wanted some of that for herself.

No other reason to stay in a supposedly abusive relationship than that. But somehow we're supposed to believe every unsubstantiated word this woman waited almost 20 years to tell us.

by Anonymousreply 399September 10, 2023 5:25 PM

[QUOTE]this woman waited almost 20 years to tell us.

Inform yourself about the history of these cases before making a false claim.

by Anonymousreply 400September 10, 2023 5:30 PM

R400 - his ex-girlfriend added on to the case in 2017 - 15 years after their relationship ended. Ok, not 20 years, but let's round up.

We're talking about his ex here - not the other ones.

by Anonymousreply 401September 10, 2023 5:32 PM

[quote] I mean, does anyone really perform a dirty sanchez?

Or a Cleveland Steamer.

by Anonymousreply 402September 10, 2023 5:35 PM

r401 - Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker is a good place to start.

by Anonymousreply 403September 10, 2023 5:43 PM

Hot Carl! Hot Carl!

by Anonymousreply 404September 10, 2023 5:48 PM

Were the letters supposed to be made public?

Maybe they thought nobody would know that they wrote it.

It showed a lack of character on their part. What’s that quote about doing things when you know nobody is watching that define you?

by Anonymousreply 405September 10, 2023 6:06 PM

If it's in the case file, isn't it a matter of public record?

by Anonymousreply 406September 10, 2023 6:19 PM

R406, yes, there’s no reason the letters wouldn’t be a part of the court record.

by Anonymousreply 407September 10, 2023 6:22 PM

I don’t believe any women, I’ll listen but not automatically believe.

by Anonymousreply 408September 10, 2023 6:25 PM

In my jurisdiction, some of those support letters would be sealed (unavailable to the public). There's a pre-sentencing report that is written / compiled by a court employee - that report is sealed. If a defendant submits letters to the court employee who does the report, then the letters are sealed, along with the report.

The report (and any enclosed letters) are available to the judge, the prosecutor, and the defendant (but not the public).

I'm guessing Kunis / Ashton sent their letter directly to the judge, who then made it available to the public.

by Anonymousreply 409September 10, 2023 6:30 PM

No R395 again you get it wrong. They, Just like Billy, were asked to sign a letter for an old friend, without any introspection or independent thought or analysis. That is all—thank you, good bye. Stop now, PLEASE.

by Anonymousreply 410September 10, 2023 7:18 PM

What Kutcher & Kunis fail to understand is that some seemingly good people can do horrible things in secret. That does not mean the good things they've done should clear the score when they do bad things.

I wonder if they would have written the same letters of support if they had personally witnessed Masterson raping women? I seriously doubt it. There is no scenario where someone's good deeds, no matter how magnanimous, can conceivably work in their favor when they've been convicted of such heinous crimes.

by Anonymousreply 411September 10, 2023 7:23 PM

Christina Ricci weighs in:

[quote] So sometimes people we loved and admired do horrible things. They might not do these things to us and we only know who they were to us but that doesn’t mean they didn’t do the horrible things and to discredit the abused is a crime

[quote] People we know as ‘awesome guys’ can be predators and abusers. It’s tough to accept but we have to. If we say we support victims – women, children, men, boys – then we must be able to take this stance.

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by Anonymousreply 412September 10, 2023 7:58 PM

I really like Christina Ricci

by Anonymousreply 413September 10, 2023 8:01 PM

R393 Drink some bleach. Low in sodium.

by Anonymousreply 414September 10, 2023 8:08 PM

Interviews w/DM, Ashton, and Mila. You be the judge.

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by Anonymousreply 415September 10, 2023 8:08 PM

R394 You are an exhausting cunt riding high on your high horse, finger waving at a bunch of gay men and the over the top criticism of anyone who won't join in on your castration is insanity and preaching to the wrong choir entirely. This is datalounge. The gay man's lounge. We don't want to fuck Danny the violent rapist so you are in fact reading the wrong room you stupid bitch.

by Anonymousreply 416September 10, 2023 8:14 PM

Call 91/ —we have a an active 5152 on the Lounge…backup needed.

by Anonymousreply 417September 10, 2023 8:22 PM

Call 911 —we have an active 5152 on the Lounge…backup needed.

by Anonymousreply 418September 10, 2023 8:23 PM

You mean ‘5150’, you dumb cunt?

by Anonymousreply 419September 10, 2023 8:28 PM

I would cut Mila Kunis some slack. I don't think she supports Danny Masterson so much as she is just standing with her husband. And as for Ashton Kutcher, I heard that he has his own skeletons in his closet. Not to the extent of rape, but some shady stuff. So, this sounds like it could be blackmail.

by Anonymousreply 420September 10, 2023 8:37 PM

^for R371 and all of his related personalities: each of you type like someone who shits in the corner when men are in the room; you're not fooling anybody. You are way too angry at someone you don't know or can't even see. Take a dose of Miralax and unclench.

by Anonymousreply 421September 10, 2023 8:37 PM

[quote]I understand that’s not how courts think, and I think the system is wrong for not considering family members.

R284 So you are smarter than 200 years of a judicial system with thousand of convictions based on reasonable guidelines developed over the decades? By you standard, Charles Manson's family should have been considered as well since he did not actually murder any of the victims himself and it would be unfair to put his parents and siblings through such trauma just because a few people who fallowed his teaching brutally murdered a few people on his behalf.

by Anonymousreply 422September 10, 2023 8:37 PM

I like Christina Ricci, and I think what she said was very reasonable. I don't think that she was "slamming" Ashton and Mila in any way, shape or form. Just a trashy, tabloid website trying to stir up drama with a disingenuous headline.

by Anonymousreply 423September 10, 2023 8:40 PM

R421 Stop stealing my shit you unoriginal cunt

by Anonymousreply 424September 10, 2023 9:14 PM


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by Anonymousreply 425September 10, 2023 9:19 PM

Cukoo, cuckoo, coco puffs …one and all

by Anonymousreply 426September 10, 2023 9:21 PM

I had to look up Donkey Punch, too. Yowza.

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by Anonymousreply 427September 10, 2023 9:34 PM

R425 Cunt . R426 Cunting for attention.

by Anonymousreply 428September 10, 2023 9:46 PM

[quote] join in on your castration

Pics please.

by Anonymousreply 429September 10, 2023 9:54 PM

Oh well, it was a nice discussion, while it lasted.

by Anonymousreply 430September 10, 2023 10:05 PM

So many repeats of “cunt.” Are you capable of not using that word? Did you mother deny you breast milk? What a misogynist you are.

by Anonymousreply 431September 10, 2023 11:05 PM

R431 I have not used that in this particular thread, but if you don't like that word, fuck off somewhere else, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 432September 11, 2023 12:52 AM

And who was talking to you? It was directed at the personality, so to speak , that used the word a dozen times over today on this thread. Is that your alter ego? Or your doppelgänger?

by Anonymousreply 433September 11, 2023 1:18 AM

R433 You write like you need a good cunt punt

by Anonymousreply 434September 11, 2023 1:22 AM


Ho hum🫢

by Anonymousreply 435September 11, 2023 1:32 AM

R434 I completely agree.

by Anonymousreply 436September 11, 2023 1:54 AM

Will Danny Masterson have to shower alongside the other inmates or will he have a private stall?

by Anonymousreply 437September 11, 2023 2:25 AM

[quote]They, Just like Billy, were asked to sign a letter for an old friend, without any introspection or independent thought or analysis.

So that's how Mila and Ashton would have figured out Masterson was a violent rapist 😆. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I don't know exactly what went down. If they ever asked Masterson about the accusations, maybe he was a really convincing liar.

by Anonymousreply 438September 11, 2023 2:41 AM

The figure it out when he was charged. Then when he was tried. And then when he was convicted.

by Anonymousreply 439September 11, 2023 2:45 AM

Lots of people can believe a jury got it wrong. In this case, 20 years after the fact, with no physical evidence, good friends or old work colleagues are entitled to entertain their own reasonable doubt. The two of them didn’t sit through any of the trial, did they?

by Anonymousreply 440September 11, 2023 3:01 AM

I assume the letters were written before the trial.

by Anonymousreply 441September 11, 2023 3:02 AM

No, the letters would be written after the trial.

by Anonymousreply 442September 11, 2023 3:03 AM

R441 They weren't

by Anonymousreply 443September 11, 2023 3:04 AM

What evidence was presented at the trial? It doesn't seem like any.

by Anonymousreply 444September 11, 2023 3:39 AM

Danny 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♀️Ashton🙋‍♀️🙋‍♂️Mila 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♀️ You'll be sorely missed . . .like hemorrhoids.

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by Anonymousreply 445September 11, 2023 4:38 AM

R444 - that's the question. No physical evidence, toxicology evidence (drugging), etc.

From all we know, it was just testimony. And in a lot of jurisdictions, that's all that is needed.

For those not in the courtroom, it seems like it's one person's account versus the other - which seems like a very dangerous and low bar to convict.

The stories provided by the victims just seem off - particularly the ex-girlfriend. 30 years for she said/he said.

by Anonymousreply 446September 11, 2023 4:49 AM

The jury deadlocked over the charge involving the ex-GF.

If a child victim were to testify that he / she was raped by Grandpa 3 years ago, the testimony would be the main evidence, as well.

by Anonymousreply 447September 11, 2023 5:05 AM

Bijou Phillips is a psychopath her own damn self and also deserves 30 years for… I don’t know. Something.

by Anonymousreply 448September 11, 2023 5:08 AM

[QUOTE]What evidence was presented at the trial? It doesn't seem like any.

I keep advising people to head over to Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker for a full history of all the women and their cases, from the inception and through both trials. I realize, though, that extensive years-long research empirical evidence compounded by multiple independent observations is too much for some to tolerate, as MAGAts have amply demonstrated. *re Cult of Scientology, look up recent Florida Attorney General, Pam Bondi and her ties to the cult's Clearwater, FL HQ. She took $$$ from a cult that enslaves.

Clams and pitiful Sea Org workers such as these infesting DL with their systemic Scientology cult misinformation and misogyny are not interested in anything but Miscavige's whip. He cracks, they give up more money. In return, if not sufficiently loyal, there will be all hell to pay of posting quotas are not met

If the systemic misogynist, clams, and their apologists do not believe Tony Ortega's carefully documented history of cult malfeasance and their continued, decades-long interruption with LAPD and LA County Sheriff 's office, Mike Rinder's website should offer more challenges to you. If you just care to inform yourselves. Leah Remini's, too.

by Anonymousreply 449September 11, 2023 6:11 AM

Wonder if the blowback is making Kutcher and Kunis feel brave or deeply regretful. (It seems that Billy Baldwin and the others who wrote letters are remaining unscathed.)

“Dear Ashton, I know the secrets your ‘role model’ keeps for you. Ones that would end you. Did you forget I was there? You were on speaker phone that night you called Danny on February 21, 2001. I hear everything. I heard the plan. In my opinion, you’re just as sick as your ‘mentor.'”

“Dear Mila, I pray you begin to process what you experienced as a child on that set. Your old interviews are very telling. ( I encourage everyone to wash them and decide for yourself what you hear and see. Do so before they get scrubbed from the internet.) I also know what happened in Toronto and after. Question, if that’s what you view as a normal relationship with a ‘big brother figure’ I feel very sad for you, and I hope you consider getting into therapy. You almost forget I was there The whole time those first five years of That ’70s Show. I remember everything.”

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by Anonymousreply 450September 11, 2023 6:20 AM

Peace has been restored.

by Anonymousreply 451September 11, 2023 6:38 AM

R450 damn, what powerful verbiage. Chrissy is on it and I believe Ashton and Mila should be very worried. No wonder Ashton is supposedly dedicating himself to helping sex trafficking now, who knows, maybe he is guilty of a whole lot more. I believe shit is about to hit the fan!

Someone ALWAYS KNOWS more…

by Anonymousreply 452September 11, 2023 7:00 AM

[quote]I encourage everyone to wash them

Pics please.

by Anonymousreply 453September 11, 2023 9:57 AM

Mama’s little baby loves clam bake too!

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by Anonymousreply 454September 11, 2023 10:09 AM

So many fucking Clams in this thread. Clam all you want to, he's convicted and is gonna die in prison.

by Anonymousreply 455September 11, 2023 11:52 AM

Wasn't Wilmer fucking an underaged Lindsay Lowlife?

Suppose he had an AIDS death wish.

by Anonymousreply 456September 11, 2023 11:59 AM

Valderrama supposedly dated an underage Demo Lovato. A pap photographed him at a hospital visiting during one of her breakdowns.

by Anonymousreply 457September 11, 2023 4:09 PM

In fairness, Wilmer started dating her when she turned 18 though she was after him since she was 16 or 17. He waited until like the week after.

by Anonymousreply 458September 11, 2023 4:31 PM

Wow, I saw the pictures of Katie Holmes at the tennis. She looks like shit, maybe 15 years older.

Scientology aged her like a prune.

by Anonymousreply 459September 11, 2023 4:34 PM

were Ashton or Masterson talented? Not familiar with their work. Never heard of Masterson until the allegations surfaced in the press.

by Anonymousreply 460September 11, 2023 4:43 PM

[quote]Valderrama supposedly dated an underage Demo Lovato.

He couldn't wait for the final, released version?

by Anonymousreply 461September 11, 2023 4:47 PM

Can you imagine sitting there with all your cell mates and some channel is having a "That 70's Show" marathon?

by Anonymousreply 462September 11, 2023 4:52 PM

Well I bet Ashton and Mila won't be visiting him any time soon now.

by Anonymousreply 463September 11, 2023 4:54 PM

I’m not down with open letters to people making nasty innuendos and such. She got her day in court, Masterson was convicted and sentenced.

by Anonymousreply 464September 11, 2023 5:05 PM

Ha! I didn't even notice the typo, r461.

by Anonymousreply 465September 11, 2023 5:15 PM

[Quote] I’m not down with open letters to people making nasty innuendos and such.

but I bet you have no problem with posters making nasty innuendos and such on DL about people they never knew or met.

by Anonymousreply 466September 11, 2023 5:17 PM

Yes of course. This is an anonymous board. The press doesn’t give a shit what some randos say on DL.

by Anonymousreply 467September 11, 2023 5:20 PM

I read at another site that he received ten years per rape, and ten years for holding a gun to the woman's head, identified as "Jen". Three charges at ten years each. It seems totally to me...

by Anonymousreply 468September 11, 2023 5:35 PM

[quote]Valderrama supposedly dated an underage Demo Lovato.

Was he the reason she later turned into a “they”?

by Anonymousreply 469September 11, 2023 5:52 PM

Wilmer also dated Mandy Moore when she was 16-17 (he was four years her senior), and began dating Lindsey Lohan when she was 17 (he was six years her senior).

During an interview with Howard Stern some years later, he bragged that he took Mandy's virginity -- and said that the "sex with Mandy was good, but it wasn't like warm apple pie." Which Mandy said was lie, "utterly tacky", and called him out on it. Eventually, Wilmer asked the Howard Stern Show to remove that interview.

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by Anonymousreply 470September 11, 2023 7:15 PM

R470 monkey see, monkey do… makes sense Topher steered clear of that gang. I am not familiar with the 70’s show. I NEVER trusted Danny when I would see him on talk shows, etc. I told my husband he is hiding something behind those dark sunglasses.

I always never trust people who wear sunglasses when it is not weather necessary. People hide in the dark and people hide their eyes in dark glasses. Eyes speak volumes about an individual. I know I sound insane, but I feel so strongly about my convictions.

by Anonymousreply 471September 11, 2023 9:49 PM

R471 not insane at all

by Anonymousreply 472September 12, 2023 1:11 AM

Wilmer was a pig, and I think he’s a scary dude.

by Anonymousreply 473September 12, 2023 3:17 AM

What dick magic did Wilmer have? If I was a young starlet at the time, I would have virtually anyone but him take my virginity. Always seemed sleazy.

by Anonymousreply 474September 12, 2023 3:37 AM

R468 - 10 years each for an unproven rape and 10 years for an unproven gun to her head.

And what the Scientology organization did TO ITS OWN MEMBERS - remember, these girls were Scientologists too, has no bearing on this. Tony Ortega's accounts are more about Scientology than about the truth of the claims.

by Anonymousreply 475September 12, 2023 4:05 AM

I should of kept my mouth shut!

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by Anonymousreply 476September 12, 2023 4:36 AM

More problems for A&M

Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis got themselves fined by SEC, days after their controversial letter to rapist Danny Masterson. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has launched charges against their NFT-based web series, “Stoner Cats,” alleging the sale of unregistered securities.

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by Anonymousreply 477September 14, 2023 3:43 PM

Danny Masterson’s Accuser Chrissie Carnell Bixler Claims This 'That '70s Show' Star Is ‘Just as Sick’ as Masterson

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by Anonymousreply 478September 14, 2023 3:46 PM

R478 Wow. It’s all so deeply ugly and gross.

by Anonymousreply 479September 14, 2023 7:06 PM

the brunette to his left acts like a groupie

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by Anonymousreply 480September 14, 2023 8:01 PM

Prison is the best place for Masterson to put his particular bedroom skillset to work. Either punching or receiving.

by Anonymousreply 481September 17, 2023 4:57 PM

he'll be held down and a dick will be shoved in his mouth while his legs are spread apart and he's fucked without lube; I only hope that one of his attackers has the presence of mind to say, 'now you know how it feels'

but ...he won't. they never learn.

by Anonymousreply 482September 18, 2023 12:01 AM

R482 I love you.

by Anonymousreply 483September 18, 2023 2:07 AM

Whoa, r482, do you mean the Scientology cult doesn't have inroads into state penitentiaries like they did the IRS during Operation Snow White?

A HUGE downgrade indeed if the Co$ can't protect Masterson from forced anal sodomy inside a State prison.

by Anonymousreply 484September 18, 2023 2:15 AM

The jury hung or deadlocked on one of the charges. I think it was the charge involving Bixler as the complaining witness. Now, she's saying cryptic stuff about Kutcher & Masterson. I think she should just spill the beans, be specific. Or just file a case in civil court. However, I think she's past her statute of limitations in civil court.

by Anonymousreply 485September 18, 2023 3:55 AM

Doesn't Bixler still have a civil suit pending against Scientology and Masterson?

by Anonymousreply 486September 18, 2023 4:24 AM

r176 Do you think people only rape people because they can’t get dates?

by Anonymousreply 487September 18, 2023 4:39 AM

Yes, R486. There is a pending civil suit (brought by Bixler & the other Jane Does) vs. Co$ & Danny Masterson. Not about the assaults, but specifically, the campaign of harassment & intimidation against them after reporting said assaults to LAPD.

by Anonymousreply 488September 18, 2023 6:35 AM

[quote]Whoa, [R482], do you mean the Scientology cult doesn't have inroads into state penitentiaries like they did the IRS during Operation Snow White?

They don't care about him, not important enough.

by Anonymousreply 489September 18, 2023 12:55 PM

Except for the bad publicity he's brought onto the Scientology apparatus of blocking civil courts and law enforcement, which were bought and paid for.

And the civil lawsuits and litigation that are going to hamper Co$ for years to come. They practically engaged in Obstruction of Justice as a cult practice for decades to protect not just Masterson, but any criminal in its fold. Bixler and the other victims lawsuits, especially topped off by Leah Remini's new suit is going to provide a thorn in the side of a crazy, pernicious threat to society.

by Anonymousreply 490September 18, 2023 7:58 PM

One of the victims (or was it both of them?) was a Scientologist, they're going to have to pick a side.

by Anonymousreply 491September 18, 2023 8:51 PM

[quote]One of the victims (or was it both of them?) was a Scientologist, they're going to have to pick a si

I think it's already clear whose side they've chosen.

by Anonymousreply 492September 18, 2023 8:53 PM

R491: All three of them were $cientologists. Jane Doe #1 (Jen B.) was born into it & her mother has cut off all contact with her. Jane Doe #2 had been a member for about seven years. Chrissie Bixler (Jane Doe #3) was brought into it by Masterson.

by Anonymousreply 493September 18, 2023 9:33 PM

I'd love to see the Co$ lose its tax-exempt status. How the fuck are they still tax-exempt?

by Anonymousreply 494September 18, 2023 10:53 PM

It's called Operation Snow White, r494. If you have the stomach and time, it will be a rabbit hole.

by Anonymousreply 495September 18, 2023 11:00 PM

[quote]I'd love to see the Co$ lose its tax-exempt status. How the fuck are they still tax-exempt?

I personally feel NO religious organizations should be tax exempt, and I would be very happy if that status were revoked for all of them, most definitely including Scientology.

by Anonymousreply 496September 18, 2023 11:32 PM

Does anyone remember that blog some years back that claimed a group of people infiltrated Celebrity Centre in LA and were giving info to the FBI? The blog disappeared sometime after they claimed that Elisabeth Moss is bipolar.

by Anonymousreply 497September 19, 2023 1:34 AM

[Quote]I mean, does anyone really perform a dirty sanchez?

Si, señor.

by Anonymousreply 498September 19, 2023 3:59 AM

Vaguely, yes, r497. I can't remember specific claims, but the did throw bombs about crunchy, uncooked rice and beans that kept flowering with baby moths that Celebrity Centre Sea Org workers actually tackled each other to scoop food with bare hands.

Sea Org workers also scavenge restaurant trash bins along their Los Angeles base, feasting on such scraps after their contract-signed indentured servitude that requires 70-80 hour work weeks from under 18 year old children whose $70/wk wages are withheld because they were not sufficiently performance in service of the "Billion year contract" signed as children, not yet legal of age.

But very much so legal to get exploited?

Please tell us more about your undoubtedly small reserves concerning your knowledge.

Get back to us soon.

by Anonymousreply 499September 19, 2023 3:59 AM

I have no doubt this Danny guy is a filthy rapist. Not only is he ugly and untalented, he gives off majorly bad energy. My question is, who did he piss off within the CoS for them not to have helped him. If they thought he was such an upstanding guy, surely they'd have pulled all the strings to get him off. Or, is this a case of misdirection? The CoS have everyone focused on Danny, while they are busy doing something else.

by Anonymousreply 500September 19, 2023 4:02 AM

R500 I believe the COS did try to intervene with Danny’s case. Although, his case appeared to be bigger than them and probably thought fuck it. He did the deeds, why spend a bunch of money helping a very guilty man. I just think his case was too intense. For him to get 30 years you know there has to be a lot more to this case, etc.

by Anonymousreply 501September 19, 2023 4:08 AM

Thanks, R501. I know virtually nada about this case. I agree, there must be a shitload more that we don't know about.

by Anonymousreply 502September 19, 2023 4:11 AM

[QUOTE]My question is, who did he piss off within the CoS for them not to have helped him.

Jesus Christ on a Cracker, son. You're new here thinking the rest of us haven't spent at least a decade wondering ourselves, yet HERE YOU ARE TO SAVE THE DAY!!!

That. Go Away!!!

by Anonymousreply 503September 19, 2023 4:13 AM

Who the fuck pissed in your porridge, R503?

by Anonymousreply 504September 19, 2023 5:39 AM

The Co$ did help him via their policy of not going to the police to report rapes. Supposedly, rapes are handled in-house, i.e., they’re swept under the carpet.

by Anonymousreply 505September 19, 2023 5:40 AM

R502, the Church of Scientology seems to have followed the Catholic Church's playbook by not reporting the rapes, treating the victims (who were church members) as the guilty parties, and probably helping to threaten and bully victims. But, as the Catholic Church's experience shows, there's only so much any one organization can to do to help it's members when they are accused of serious crimes.

by Anonymousreply 506September 19, 2023 1:47 PM

Eh, the Catholic Church had a very long run of no consequences for unspeakable crimes. They probably put that in the “win” column.

The fact that the Church still exists at at all is a testament to human beings’ capacity for drooling stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 507September 19, 2023 3:23 PM

[quote]Eh, the Catholic Church had a very long run of no consequences for unspeakable crimes. They probably put that in the “win” column. The fact that the Church still exists at at all is a testament to human beings’ capacity for drooling stupidity.

Very sad, but very true.

by Anonymousreply 508September 19, 2023 3:58 PM

[quote] Although, his case appeared to be bigger than them and probably thought fuck it.

Co$ has always had a public image problem. Defend an accused rapist in 2023? After Anonymous “Expect us” and the Me too movement? No fucking way.

by Anonymousreply 509September 19, 2023 6:41 PM

Bijou files for divoce

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by Anonymousreply 510September 19, 2023 10:09 PM

That's gotta hurt.

by Anonymousreply 511September 19, 2023 10:23 PM

They’re probably doing this to shelter assets from the coming civil lawsuits.

by Anonymousreply 512September 19, 2023 10:36 PM

Pretty much. R512. I'm surprised she hasn't done it sooner to protect her half of the marital assets from his expensive team of lawyers. She's lost a lot more than face in this sordid tale.

by Anonymousreply 513September 19, 2023 10:49 PM

Yeah, Bijou has been bad news for a long time. Karma, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 514September 19, 2023 11:13 PM

Bijou has health issues and is a transplant patient. I don't think she will live a long life.

by Anonymousreply 515September 19, 2023 11:30 PM

Good that axe wound needs to go!

by Anonymousreply 516September 19, 2023 11:33 PM

Obligatory thread theme...

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by Anonymousreply 517September 19, 2023 11:51 PM

R512: I suspect it's also to prevent her from being bled dry by the extortion he will surely face in prison as a rich, famous sex-offender.

by Anonymousreply 518September 20, 2023 1:08 AM

Bijou is a cunt with a capital K.

Where is Tamerlane?

by Anonymousreply 519September 20, 2023 2:10 AM


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by Anonymousreply 520September 20, 2023 2:10 AM

[quote]I suspect it's also to prevent her from being bled dry by the extortion he will surely face in prison as a rich, famous sex-offender.

I hope this isn't an ignorant question, but how could Masterson be extorted while in prison? Are you sure you're using the word "extortion" correctly? If people sue him while he's in prison, that's not "extortion."

by Anonymousreply 521September 20, 2023 2:52 AM

R521: Extorted by other prisoners for protection -- although protection isn't even really the right word. For the privilege of not getting his ass beat on a daily basis, or killed. (they refer to it as "rent"). I saw an interesting interview with a former prisoner who explains how that all works, and the type of people Danny will be incarcerated with even in a "Special Needs Yard" (or "protective custody"). Obviously, there's no money transferred on the inside -- it takes place on the outside, between family members (called "street to street").

It's a very long interview, but I think the main gist of what I'm referring to is covered in the first 10-12 minutes.

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by Anonymousreply 522September 20, 2023 3:45 AM

Chynna (she, Bijou, & Mackenzie have same father, 3 different mothers) told a really sad story and even though she talks about Jesus way too much, I feel bad for her.

She went with brother Tamerlane (Bijou's full brother, I think) to visit Dad (Papa John Phillips who had sex w/his own daughter, Mackenzie). Michelle (mom) told Chynna be careful, blah blah blah. John ends up basically kidnapping Tamerlane and taking him to a foreign country.

Even though Michelle's not Tamerlane's mother, she had custody of him.

Anyway, that's a sad story and what a heavy burden for a child (Chynna) to bear: to be tasked with not letting John kidnap your brother.

by Anonymousreply 523September 20, 2023 3:54 AM

Leah Remini, Claire Headley, and Mike Rinder talk about Scientology and LAPD's connections/corruption.

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by Anonymousreply 524September 20, 2023 5:04 AM

[quote] Bijou Phillips files for divorce from Danny Masterson after rape sentencing

Wow, that was fast, he hasn't even had an appeal yet.

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by Anonymousreply 525September 20, 2023 12:14 PM

She's getting all the assets out of his name before the law suits.

by Anonymousreply 526September 20, 2023 12:41 PM

She can get half, but if he “gives” her more than that in a divorce settlement, Danny’s creditors can challenge it as a fraudulent conveyance.

by Anonymousreply 527September 20, 2023 5:28 PM

[quote]Danny Masterson gets thirty years

Good start.

Now do Miss Cavige and the rest of the bad clams.

by Anonymousreply 528September 20, 2023 6:19 PM

R292 take your strawman and shove it ALL THE WAY up your ass. I don't queation that he's a rapist who deserves to be punished. But I think 30 years is too much.

by Anonymousreply 529October 2, 2023 10:16 PM

Had fleeing to Europe been a possibility, how many of these countries --without extradition treaties with the U.S.-- seem attractive and receptive destinations?

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Benin, Bhutan, Botswana, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Cuba, Cyprus, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Georgia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Iran, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Moldova, Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, North Korea, Oman, Palestine, People’s Republic of China, Qatar, Republic of Macedonia, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Martin, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Siachen Glacier, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, São Tomé and Príncipe, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Togo, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican City, Vietnam, Western Sahara, and Yemen.

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by Anonymousreply 530October 2, 2023 10:35 PM

Scientology probably gets whatever money he has left if he's killed in prison.

by Anonymousreply 531October 2, 2023 10:36 PM

R529, this was not discretionary. This was the mandatory sentence under California law. Elected representatives voted for it.

by Anonymousreply 532October 2, 2023 10:45 PM

I don't believe for one second that he *only* "raped 2 women 20 years ago."

by Anonymousreply 533October 2, 2023 10:46 PM

[quote]I don't question that he's a rapist who deserves to be punished. But I think 30 years is too much.

Sadly for you, your opinion isn't the one that matters.

by Anonymousreply 534October 3, 2023 8:55 AM

you mean sadly for Danny R534

by Anonymousreply 535October 5, 2023 11:35 PM
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