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Maestro Reviews: Good, but, yes, it’s an “I Married a Fag” film

I hope it at least provides Bradley with whatever catharsis he needed.

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by Anonymousreply 168January 10, 2024 1:46 AM

“…a positive portrait of America’s first (and most) acclaimed conductor, who was able to live his best life with the support of a wife whose presence confirmed his heterosexual privilege when it was publicly and privately imperative. But the actual masterstroke of Cooper’s Maestro is when it focuses on the woman whose time and career his own eclipsed.”

If this film is not about his own parents and specifically his mother, I will eat my hat.

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by Anonymousreply 1September 2, 2023 5:22 PM

"Perhaps the most crucial craft contribution is the enveloping sound design, making you hear famous Bernstein works like his epic-scale Mass, his opera A Quiet Place or his magnificent overture to Candide as if for the first time."

Um, I'm pretty sure that for most people this WILL be the first time that they hear a note of A QUIET PLACE.

by Anonymousreply 2September 2, 2023 5:26 PM

“In that scene, Felicia watches on, wearily applauding one more time. “You will die a lonely old queen,” she tells her husband at one point…”

Kill me now.

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by Anonymousreply 3September 2, 2023 5:30 PM

Bradley Cooper and Carey Mulligan are being praised for their performances as Leonard Bernstein and Felicia Montealegre, respectively, in “Maestro,” despite an overall mixed reaction. The film made its debut Saturday at the Venice Film Festival to praise for its leads though the overall reaction has been far more muted than anticipated.

by Anonymousreply 4September 2, 2023 5:31 PM

Why did they give Bradley a nose that looks so different then Lenny’s nose did?

Lenny had a glorious strong nose. They gave Brad a beak.

by Anonymousreply 5September 2, 2023 5:34 PM

Smells like turkey.

by Anonymousreply 6September 2, 2023 5:41 PM

Ha, sounds like a perfect vehicle for Neely.

by Anonymousreply 7September 2, 2023 5:42 PM

Not everything is successful in this film—very far from it, in fact; its pleasure lies in how compromised and piecemeal it can be. Particularly in the opening courtship between Bernstein and Montealegre, a feeling of weariness can set in, as we wonder, really, what interest these two characters are supposed to hold for us, since the film has not made much of them outside their own self-contained relationship. Secondary characters are sketchily conceived, including an early boyfriend played by Matt Bomer with something that looks like regret. The film can be boring—especially in its final stretches, which drag out the couple’s last few days together, giving us something like five potential endings and never actually finishing.

Maestro will never be as big a crowd-pleaser as A Star is Born, and may find itself accused—perhaps not unfairly—of Oscar-baiting, with those two outsize performances at its heart—but something in the alchemy of cinema occasionally materializes here, bringing immense force to its project and leaving the viewer with many pleasingly unanswered questions to ponder.

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by Anonymousreply 8September 2, 2023 5:49 PM

Bradley Cooper is Chris Pratt with a high school diploma.

They're both galling, bottomless egomaniacs who mistake their current dollar value in Hollywood for actual talent or actual love.

by Anonymousreply 9September 2, 2023 5:50 PM

There are many triumphant musical moments in Maestro but the one that takes the cake for me is the moment Bradley Cooper plays the bongos on Matt Bomer’s bare ass. #Venezia80

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by Anonymousreply 10September 2, 2023 5:51 PM

“It’s a shame, as there are promising elements of Maestro, but they form a rather forgettable, conventional biographical drama as a whole – one that sadly lacks Bernstein’s maverick spirit and warmth, or even captures anything about him you couldn’t glean from a quick skim read of Wikipedia. There’s no real sense of his passion, or what set him apart from his peers. One of the great jokes in Todd Field’s Tár is that Lydia Tár claimed to have been mentored by Bernstein; how is it that a single detail in a fiction could be more interesting and revealing than the entirety of Cooper’s long-gestating passion project?“

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by Anonymousreply 11September 2, 2023 5:57 PM

The reviews are weak enough that I would be surprised if Cooper got a Best Director nom which he really really really wants. It looks to be a crowded field this year with Nolan, Gerwig, Scorcese, and Lanthimos probably getting in.

It will definitely get a nom for the two leads. This could repeat the noms of another Netflix film, Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, which got both lead actors noms and three below the line design noms (maybe swap production design for cinematography.)

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by Anonymousreply 12September 2, 2023 6:12 PM

Yawn.

by Anonymousreply 13September 2, 2023 6:29 PM

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by Anonymousreply 14September 2, 2023 6:35 PM

This thing has zero BO potential which is why it's on Netflix. Can anyone say Red, White and Royal Blue.

by Anonymousreply 15September 2, 2023 6:40 PM

"A Bradley Cooper Film"

Well, get a load of her.

by Anonymousreply 16September 2, 2023 7:01 PM

Can't wait!

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by Anonymousreply 17September 2, 2023 8:08 PM

Forget the nose. Bernstein was a complete asshole. Do they portray that?

by Anonymousreply 18September 2, 2023 8:13 PM

R9 Brad Cooper will act rings around Chris Pratt.

by Anonymousreply 19September 2, 2023 8:15 PM

Does Bradley show cock or ass?

by Anonymousreply 20September 2, 2023 8:23 PM

He shows nose.

by Anonymousreply 21September 2, 2023 8:32 PM

Bradley Cooper is my inspiration. I will make it before 40.

by Anonymousreply 22September 2, 2023 8:34 PM

[quote]Does Bradley show cock or ass?

He did that in Nightmare Alley.

by Anonymousreply 23September 2, 2023 8:39 PM

He’s coming out in association with the film.

by Anonymousreply 24September 2, 2023 8:40 PM

The Bernstein Mass is one of the most boring pieces you will ever hear. I saw it live and thought I'd give it another chance with the recording. Listening to Wagner's Ring from beginning to end in one sitting goes by like a breeze in comparison.

Does the film cover him abandoning his wife after a long marriage to live with a young man? To his credit he returned to her when she became fatally ill.

West Side Story is immortal and he has many great recordings.

by Anonymousreply 25September 2, 2023 8:46 PM

There's more to love, I NOSE, than making love....

by Anonymousreply 26September 2, 2023 8:48 PM

R25 yes, Gideon Glick portrays the lover he abandoned her for.

by Anonymousreply 27September 2, 2023 8:49 PM

Looks like every nominee for Best Actor this year will be for a gay character.

by Anonymousreply 28September 2, 2023 8:51 PM

You get A Spike Lee Joint in every single one of his goddamn films.

This one should be subtitled A Bradley Cooper Schnozz.

by Anonymousreply 29September 2, 2023 9:06 PM

Oppenheimer was not gay R28.

by Anonymousreply 30September 2, 2023 9:09 PM

Actually considering Netflix is releasing two films at the exact same time about gay men in the public eye in pre-Stonewall America

It’s within the realm if possibility that Oscar voters could choose to nominate Colman Domingo for Rustin and punt Cooper.

by Anonymousreply 31September 2, 2023 10:14 PM

Actually I wonder if anyone is aware of any time the Academy has nominated two actors for gay roles in lead actor in the sane year

by Anonymousreply 32September 2, 2023 10:21 PM

Answered my own question

2005 Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Capote (won) and Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain

by Anonymousreply 33September 2, 2023 10:26 PM

Although Capote while an iconic gay man, the movie didn’t deal with his sexuality much

by Anonymousreply 34September 2, 2023 10:30 PM

Other than the fact that his being gay was taboo at the time and his brief flirtations with fashionable leftism, what dramatic potential does his life have? There can be only so many scenes of score studying, composition, and rehearsals before you put the audience to sleep. Without the gayness, you might as well make the Karl Boehm story.

by Anonymousreply 35September 2, 2023 10:30 PM

was he a top or bottom?

by Anonymousreply 36September 2, 2023 10:38 PM

Is this like a male Tar?

by Anonymousreply 37September 2, 2023 10:40 PM

Actually Leonard Bernstein basically was a male Tar who would have been cancelled today for his predatory behavior

by Anonymousreply 38September 2, 2023 10:42 PM

I predict The Nose will cost him the Oscar.

The AMPAS already made that mistake once with Nicole Kidman as Virginia Woolf; they won't make it a second time.

by Anonymousreply 39September 2, 2023 10:43 PM

The movie might have been more enjoyable if it had drawn heavily from Joan Peyser's unauthorized biography of Bernstein. I think Cooper complete with Jewish nose prosthetic, might have gotten the Oscar if he had recreated Bernstein's serenading the dean of the Bloomington Indiana school of music to the tune of A Bicycle Built for Two:

Deanie, weeny, show me your penie, do! I'm all steamy, all for the love of you! You want to see mine? It's teeny! But that's because I'm a sheeny--- But you're a goy, And boy oh boy! I'll just betcha it's built for two.

by Anonymousreply 40September 2, 2023 10:55 PM

Maybe the movie will inspire a Candide revival!

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by Anonymousreply 41September 2, 2023 11:28 PM

On one hand, Bernstein revelled in bridging classical and pop music. On the other hand, he was the most pretentious of classical composers. His piece for violin and orchestra, which is one of his best works, has the title “Serenade after Plato’s Symposium”.

The text to his Kaddish symphony is cringe-inducing, especially as enunciated by his wife.

by Anonymousreply 42September 2, 2023 11:40 PM

Loser. Who does Cooper think is his audience? Does he dare of breaking even? I trust not.

by Anonymousreply 43September 3, 2023 3:33 AM

R43. Gay men over 60.

by Anonymousreply 44September 3, 2023 3:36 AM

R12, "Oppenheimer" will take both Director and Actor, as well as Picture and Cinematography.

Bradley Cooper isn't going to be nominated in any category, because his film will flop. Plus.....The Nose.

by Anonymousreply 45September 3, 2023 3:37 AM

More like gay men over 70.

by Anonymousreply 46September 3, 2023 3:38 AM

I will definitely be seeing this in the theater, as to not break my tradition of seeing every BC release theatrically since The Hangover.

by Anonymousreply 47September 3, 2023 3:51 AM

People like Bernstein, Comden and Green, Jerome Robbins, Balanchine and others make me think that NYC was at its most romantic and wonderful in the mid 20th Century.

by Anonymousreply 48September 3, 2023 9:54 AM

Symphonic music, ballet, musical theater, homosexuality, sexual predator of young apprentices, betrayal of a long suffering wife. Is this going to be another flopbuster unless they spent 5 million on it?

by Anonymousreply 49September 3, 2023 10:12 AM

This is the kind of movie they had to make in the 50s sanitizing everything and ending with his triumphant taking over of the NY Philharmonic. Leaving out the part where he stole the position from one of the great conductors of the 20th Century Dimitri Mitropoulos.

by Anonymousreply 50September 3, 2023 10:21 AM

[quote] Who does Cooper think is his audience? Does he dare of breaking even? I trust not.

Jesus Christ, what part of “Netflix films don’t have to make money in theaters” do people not understand?

by Anonymousreply 51September 3, 2023 10:32 AM

[quote]Who does Cooper think is his audience?

The Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences.

by Anonymousreply 52September 3, 2023 10:34 AM

2023 is the year of making movies about Jews. Oppenheimer, Maestro, Golda and even Barbie. Anything else in the pipeline?

by Anonymousreply 53September 3, 2023 10:43 AM

I love Bernstein, but I'll wait for streaming if this is the angle.

by Anonymousreply 54September 3, 2023 10:45 AM

[quote] I'll wait for streaming if this is the angle.

THAT IS THE POINT!

by Anonymousreply 55September 3, 2023 10:50 AM

I find Carey Mulligan insufferable.

She **so overdoes everything** I've ever seen her in, including stage, where she stank up Skylight with a starchy RP accent in lieu of a character.

by Anonymousreply 56September 3, 2023 10:55 AM

Was his kid’s show broadcast nationwide or just in the New York area?

by Anonymousreply 57September 3, 2023 12:03 PM

CBS, if I remember correctly?

by Anonymousreply 58September 3, 2023 12:05 PM

One would assume the former watchers are a built in audience.

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by Anonymousreply 59September 3, 2023 1:21 PM

See I would have approached Bernstein’s story from the pov of his success and influence as an educator, like the Mister Rogers movie. He was a brilliant educator who tried to use television to its most optimistic and humanistic potential.

The movie doesn’t ask and try to answer the question, “Why was Leonard Bernstein important? What separates him from someone like Leopold Stokowski, whom the public has largely forgotten? Why do we need to remember him?” It doesn’t ask that, it just tells you he was important, and everything shown in service to the marriage/homosexuality story which should be only tangentially relevant to a biopic about him.

Oppenheimer was a brilliant biopic because it tells you why he was important. His marriages are used to give the character color but the movie is about a man and his place in the world.

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by Anonymousreply 60September 3, 2023 1:54 PM

R60. Stokowski was 35 years older than Bernstein. Let’s check back in 2058. More of Bernstein’s recordings are also on video and in modern stereo.

I do agree that his television work and his compositions, especially West Side Story, give him an advantage over Stokowski.

by Anonymousreply 61September 3, 2023 1:58 PM

Exactly R60. My wife watched his 60s and 70s shows and just loved him.

by Anonymousreply 62September 3, 2023 2:03 PM

R59. A ten-year-old in 1958 would be 75 now. A ten-year-old in 1972 would be 61 now.

by Anonymousreply 63September 3, 2023 2:06 PM

I mean I would have approached him as a cultural figure first, then as a champagne socialist which is actually relevant to today, then as a Jew, and then as a homosexual. Because let’s face it, Leonard Bernstein was a lousy homosexual. Treated people horribly, both his wife and lovers, as well as the men he harrassed.

This should have never been offered to Bradley Cooper, because Bradley Cooper has an agenda, two films in a row about the long-suffering wife of a narcissist. You were never going to get a good biopic out of Cooper, it was always going to be awards bait.

by Anonymousreply 64September 3, 2023 2:11 PM

The fact that Cooper worse a cartoonish prosthetic nose shows he does not relate to Bernstein as anything other than awards bait.

At least Jake Gyllenhaal actually said out loud, “I relate to him as a Jew.”

by Anonymousreply 65September 3, 2023 2:14 PM

I don’t think the movie will do well. It’s around 2 and a half hours and the second half is said to drag. Zzzz

by Anonymousreply 66September 3, 2023 3:49 PM

Are there any scenes in MAESTRO about the creation of WEST SIDE STORY? ON THE TOWN? WONDERFUL TOWN? Who plays Sondheim? Betty Condom? Roz Russell?

by Anonymousreply 67September 3, 2023 4:04 PM

[quote]Betty Condom

Oh, DEAR.

by Anonymousreply 68September 3, 2023 6:58 PM

R51, Mea culpa. I know nowt about Netflix, including that "Maestro" will stream, not be shown in theaters.

I must add, though: How conveeenient!

by Anonymousreply 69September 3, 2023 7:14 PM

Actually, given my admonishing from r51, I would say that the audience will more likely simply be Netflix subscribers going, "Hey, look what's on. Let's watch, see if we like it."

As a 1949 Boomer of the 1st TV Generation, I don't remember watching Bernstein's series.

by Anonymousreply 70September 3, 2023 7:24 PM

R67, I gather that Betty COMDEN appears in the film but not Sondheim or Roz.

by Anonymousreply 71September 3, 2023 9:10 PM

No interest in watching another movie villainizing homosexuality.

The drama and horrors of a straight woman dealing sigh a gay man in a homophobic era.

by Anonymousreply 72September 3, 2023 9:24 PM

An interesting thought:

“There’s a director with a beautiful film out this year who’d have made a wonderful Maestro (and given it a better title). His name’s Todd Haynes, he has form with true-life stories and the music world, and is queer and part-Jewish. There is nothing like authenticity.”

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by Anonymousreply 73September 3, 2023 10:02 PM

[quote]As a 1949 Boomer of the 1st TV Generation, I don't remember watching Bernstein's series.

I'm a few years younger. I remember CBS broadcast episodes on Saturday afternoons (maybe Sundays?). I didn't watch many of them. I wasn't really interested in any kind of music until I was 11 or 12, and popular music was everything to me. I know I saw Bernstein at Tanglewood in 1970 or 1971, and was not swayed.

by Anonymousreply 74September 4, 2023 2:27 AM

There is a great movie to be made about Bernstein's life, the closet, and his wasted potential as an artist, but this doesn't sound like it's it.

by Anonymousreply 75September 4, 2023 2:30 AM

Did Lenny smoke a lot of ciggies on all those children's concerts he did on TV in the 50s?

by Anonymousreply 76September 4, 2023 3:37 AM

Bradley made this movie only in hopes that he would win an Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 77September 4, 2023 4:46 AM

I give this movie three ovens and Brad’s nose one Star of David.

by Anonymousreply 78September 4, 2023 5:44 AM

Why are they still doing gala premieres without the stars?

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by Anonymousreply 79September 7, 2023 8:52 PM

This is the movie I want to see, not the one about the fake marriage to the social climber wife.

Other times, his conduct was just unseemly. At one point, Bernstein’s receiving guests in his hotel suite nude except for a waist-length leather “Sharks” jacket (a gift from the 1980 West Side Story revival cast). A couple years later he’s taking an all-male troupe of Tanglewood composition and composing fellows out for a night on the town (or, more accurately, the Seven Hills Inn in Lenox, MA). “I prayed everyone at Seven Hills was of legal age,” Harmon writes – and he proceeded to take the night off.

Indeed, Bernstein’s sexual appetite in On the Road and Off the Record suggests a voracious twenty-something constantly on the prowl, not a guy in his seventh decade. Harmon recounts a parade of LB’s lovers, one-night stands, and other shenanigans, culminating in perhaps the book’s most shocking passage where Bernstein grabs Harmon’s crotch late one night. We’re told this was a three-months-on-the-job ritual to which all LB’s assistants were subjected. But Harmon’s response to the experience reads like that of a sexual assault survivor – which, to some degree at least, he was.

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by Anonymousreply 80September 7, 2023 9:29 PM

Oddly it does sound like a movie of an erratic Bernstein in widowerhood would be the kind of showy role Cooper would relish.

Of course, he couldn’t be cast in it without wearing old age makeup.

by Anonymousreply 81September 7, 2023 10:00 PM

And, perhaps more to the point, without doing any number of highly unflattering things onscreen.

by Anonymousreply 82September 7, 2023 10:47 PM

Isn't it in that infamous Bernstein book that he was going to greet well wishers after a concert wearing nothing but a jock strap which when younger I'm sure he looked terrific in. Godard Lieberson had to ruin it all by managing to talk him into putting on clothes.

by Anonymousreply 83September 9, 2023 1:14 AM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Miss Cooper with that fake honker looks like Batman's The Joker more than any other live action actor who has ever played that character.

by Anonymousreply 84September 9, 2023 1:25 AM

Carey! Bring me the axe!

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by Anonymousreply 85September 9, 2023 7:57 PM

With Peter Saarsgard in the lead actor's race now, Cooper could be pushed out.

by Anonymousreply 86September 9, 2023 9:49 PM

Let´s talk

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by Anonymousreply 87November 12, 2023 6:27 PM

I'm rooting for Mulligan to win awards just so the people who bitched about her playing Bernstein's wife will shut the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 88November 12, 2023 6:37 PM

Who plays Aaron Copland in this movie? Now THERE was a man who didn't play the hetero game (albeit keeping privacy because of his wisdom and class) and became THE giant of American composers.

by Anonymousreply 89November 12, 2023 6:38 PM

Talk about over preparing for an Oscar!

Cooper has spent his whole adult life closeted. Wasn’t that enough rehearsal to play Bernstein?

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by Anonymousreply 90November 16, 2023 1:25 PM

Alexander Bernstein’s remark to his sister Jamie after Lenny left his wife and children to shack up with his boy toy in California for the summer . . .

“Daddy came out of the closet ass first!”

by Anonymousreply 91November 16, 2023 2:15 PM

[quote] She **so overdoes everything**

I thought she was perfect in Inside Llewyn Davis.

by Anonymousreply 92November 20, 2023 6:02 AM

Well, r90! That 6-year prep puts Austin Butler’s Covid-induced 3 years of "Elvis" prep in the shade! (Though BC does spout the same "I was absolutely terrified" line.)

by Anonymousreply 93November 20, 2023 9:34 AM

Robbins and Copland have walk-ons. I think the actor playing Robbins says, "Hi, I'm Jerry!" Two actors playing Comden and Green do a very bad rendition of their chestnut, "Carried Away," and then they're gone. There's a little bit of CANDIDE. That's about all you get from Bernstein's Broadway career.

by Anonymousreply 94November 27, 2023 12:01 AM

Decent film, far from great. Carey Mulligan deserves an Oscar nomination, but not, I think, an Oscar. That’s it. Cooper does not deserve an acting or directing nomination before this film. In my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 95November 27, 2023 12:20 AM

Okay, Bernstein was gay, but do you think he bottomed for Lillian Hellman?

by Anonymousreply 96November 27, 2023 3:14 AM

I hope she loses so r88 will shut the fuck up

by Anonymousreply 97November 27, 2023 3:20 AM

Does BCoop reenact this moment from the out of town tryouts of West Side STtory in which Arthur Laurents photographed Lenny on the phone to Stephen Sondheim, complaining about how restrictive his marriage to Felicia is?

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by Anonymousreply 98November 27, 2023 3:33 AM

I kept up with the production of this for a time, but I have no interest in seeing it. I like some of Bernstein's work, but he was repulsive, and over time, Bradley Cooper has begun to annoy me for whatever reason. And it's Oscar bait (not the worst case I've ever seen, but bad enough).

by Anonymousreply 99November 27, 2023 4:39 AM

My very picky ex texted me yesterday and said Maestro is his favorite movie of the year. Said he wanted to hate it, but absolutely loved it.

by Anonymousreply 100November 27, 2023 4:44 AM

[quote] it’s an “I Married a Fag” film

I will never understand why straight people have such a fetish for these films. Between this and Fellow Travelers, I'm tired of this shit. What is this, 1995?

by Anonymousreply 101November 27, 2023 9:14 PM

He was on Howard Stern this morning. It was a fun interview. Howard brought up closeted people in Hollywood and I instantly thought of DL.

by Anonymousreply 102November 27, 2023 9:18 PM

So, the film doesn't really touch on his work on Broadway? He was undeniably a giant of classical music -- but that's far more in relation to his work as conductor, music director and television figure than his work as a classical composer. I'd argue that West Side Story and even On the Town are his most important works as a composer.

by Anonymousreply 103November 29, 2023 1:28 AM

The movie is a standard bio-pic gussied up with some interesting camera work and boy-boy kisses. Like most biopics it tells too broad and shallow a story without much illuminating, riveting interpersonal drama You always get the aftermath but rarely see the cause.

by Anonymousreply 104November 29, 2023 3:24 AM

Oh, that's okay, r104.

I hear Sofia Coppola will put things right with "Felicia."

by Anonymousreply 105November 29, 2023 5:53 AM

Do they include his exhibitionist side? Like when he wanted to greet post concert guests in just a jock strap. Being once when I was young an exhibitionist I totally get it. Not in an illegal way. But inside as at home or locker room or dressing room.

by Anonymousreply 106November 29, 2023 11:31 AM

Leonard Bernstein was much more handsome than Bradley Cooper.

by Anonymousreply 107December 28, 2023 1:59 PM

But why did Bradley spend the whole film doing his impersonation of Katherine Hepburn?

by Anonymousreply 108December 28, 2023 2:02 PM

Carey Mulligan was great, but she needs to have that distracting mole burned off.

by Anonymousreply 109December 28, 2023 2:05 PM

Interesting article on the real life Leonard and Felicia.

She knew he was gay when she married him.

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by Anonymousreply 110December 28, 2023 2:06 PM

Which one was the woman in the relationship?

by Anonymousreply 111December 28, 2023 2:09 PM

Amateur.

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by Anonymousreply 112December 28, 2023 3:14 PM

R98 That photo is pretty hot. Any frontal photos?

by Anonymousreply 113December 28, 2023 3:52 PM

[quote] Do they include his exhibitionist side? Like when he wanted to greet post concert guests in just a jock strap. Being once when I was young an exhibitionist I totally get it. Not in an illegal way. But inside as at home or locker room or dressing room.

There's one scene where we see him at a distance and partially obscured getting out of his pant and walking around for a brief moment in his short and tighty-whities in his Connecticut home (which apparently he did all the time), but that's it. You never get a good look at Bradley Cooper's body, unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 114December 28, 2023 4:05 PM

[quote]You never get a good look at Bradley Cooper's body, unfortunately.

It's not like we've never seen all that he has to offer. He's done several nude scenes over the years, can be seen shirtless in movies and photos many times, and even did brief frontal in Nightmare Alley.

by Anonymousreply 115December 28, 2023 4:56 PM

Was Lenny a top? He has serious BDF.

by Anonymousreply 116December 28, 2023 7:43 PM

Could Bernstein have been HIV poz?

by Anonymousreply 117December 28, 2023 7:53 PM

Lucy's nose was better.🔥. 🚬 👃

by Anonymousreply 118December 28, 2023 8:06 PM

I like Bradley Cooper but only lasted @ 30 mins of this. Just couldn’t get into it - well made movie, etc. If it weren’t for Jeffery Wright - i want to kiss Jeffery - I’d say give Bradley the Oscar. I’m not good at predicting awards but it could be Bradley’s year.

by Anonymousreply 119December 28, 2023 8:41 PM

It should have been called "Look AT ME Stro" or "Bradley Cooper so desperately wants an Oscar." The whole thing was soo pretentious. Also think I got COPD by watching this thing

by Anonymousreply 120December 28, 2023 9:04 PM

R119, You could last only 30 minutes in "Maestro" but you think Bradley Cooper could win the Oscar?!

Oy.

by Anonymousreply 121December 29, 2023 3:37 AM

R101 Because it caters to a straight audiences, specifically women.

Being able to put women into gay relationships is how gay themed movies can be mainstreamed. You see it in “Brokeback Mountain”, “Bohemian Rhapsody”, this.

I hate it.

by Anonymousreply 122December 29, 2023 4:02 AM

What’s sad about this movie is that is that has absolutely nothing to say about homosexuality in the 40s or being closeted, personally with his family and professionally with his colleagues. It’s a love story between gay man and straight woman and that just is not believable. Keeping up appearances is fine as long as you have access to fuck boys as well? His wife benefited from the lifestyle and fame attached to him, so why should we pity her.

by Anonymousreply 123December 29, 2023 4:41 AM

R123 Which is why I ask the question why do people think Bradley is gay when he interprets a gay man with such a straight gaze?

And it’s not like it was intentional. He interprets a gay man the way a straight man would.

It’s boring.

by Anonymousreply 124December 29, 2023 4:51 AM

It’s such a misguided film. It’s a Rosencrantz & Guildenstern version of the Leonard Bernstein story, only played straight. It thinks the least interesting thing about the man is the most fascinating. Carey Mulligan tries her best to make it work, but ultimately Bradley Cooper doesn’t have much insight into the couple beyond their chain smoking.

by Anonymousreply 125December 29, 2023 5:29 AM

To r124 and r125: Mission Accomplished!

by Anonymousreply 126December 29, 2023 1:18 PM

This was a huge flop. It dropped out of the Netflix top 10 after only four days. Compare it to Don't Look Up, which was the biggest movie ever on Netflix. Bradley Cooper is just not an A-list star like Leo.

by Anonymousreply 127December 29, 2023 3:15 PM

Such a fascinating man, such a boring movie.

by Anonymousreply 128December 29, 2023 4:37 PM

Huge, huge turkey at the Box Office:

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by Anonymousreply 129December 29, 2023 6:57 PM

R128 I will say, it sounds like his kids had a pretty fun and interesting childhood.

by Anonymousreply 130December 29, 2023 7:01 PM

Despite all the 2nd hand smoke.

by Anonymousreply 131December 29, 2023 7:17 PM

I guess this is what passed as NYC culchah in the mid-50s. The chumminess of all three seems a little cringe.

But the technology is more advanced than I would have expected.

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by Anonymousreply 132December 30, 2023 4:36 AM

It just seems like he used the same formula for “a Star is Born”.

by Anonymousreply 133December 30, 2023 4:39 AM

"Person to Person" went to different celebrity homes each week. Marilyn Monroe did one.

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by Anonymousreply 134December 30, 2023 7:24 AM

Bernstein's oldest daughter said one of his favorite bands was The Kinks.

by Anonymousreply 135December 31, 2023 10:18 PM

Bradley’s going to strangle an extra prostitute if he doesn’t win the Oscar this year.

by Anonymousreply 136January 1, 2024 1:05 PM

R135, Bernstein was a big fan of The Beatles and Michael Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 137January 1, 2024 1:09 PM

R129, It was never expected to do well at the box office. Here in Boston, you have to hunt for a theater that’s showing it.

by Anonymousreply 138January 1, 2024 1:11 PM

A friend went to see “Ferrari” on Christmas Day and there were only ten people in the theater.

by Anonymousreply 139January 1, 2024 1:12 PM

Fags

by Anonymousreply 140January 1, 2024 1:14 PM

R138, Well, that's just a silly comment. Why even send it to theaters, then?

by Anonymousreply 141January 1, 2024 5:14 PM

R141, To be Oscar eligible, a movie has to play in a theater for at least a limited run.

by Anonymousreply 142January 1, 2024 5:18 PM

R139, Aren't people usually with family that day?

In any case, we've seen "Famous Italian" Adam Driver in "House of Gucci." We've seen Ferraris race in "Ford v. Ferrari." Why bother, then, with "Ferrari"?

by Anonymousreply 143January 1, 2024 5:21 PM

For the uninformed R141 . . .

“Do Oscar movies have to be in theaters?

Starting next year, any film eligible for best picture will have to play in 10 of the top 50 US markets, a major expansion from the current rule, which requires just a week run in a theater in just one of the six biggest cities in the US.”

by Anonymousreply 144January 1, 2024 5:22 PM

R142, Fine. But to think a film "never expected to do well at the box office" would be considered for an Oscar seems folly to me.

by Anonymousreply 145January 1, 2024 5:23 PM

R145, No one expected “Chicago” to be as successful as it became.

A box office flop in the USA can still make money internationally through video sales and streaming.

by Anonymousreply 146January 1, 2024 5:28 PM

R144 if a film doesn't qualify for best picture, is it still eligible for other associated "best" awards?

by Anonymousreply 147January 2, 2024 4:19 AM

R9 you are an idiot and terrible critic. Bradley Coopers is leagues above Chris Pratt and quite arguably one of the greatest actors of his generation. He is also Georgetown educated and received his MFA from the New School. Cooper belongs in the league with Deniro, Brando, Poitier not the guy they call when they can’t get Mark Wahlberg or Channing Tatum.

by Anonymousreply 148January 2, 2024 4:33 AM

R147, The film has to meet the Academy qualifications to be eligible to be nominated in any category, not just Best Picture.

There was an issue back in 1994 when “The Last Seduction” was declared ineligible to be Oscar nominated since it had first aired on HBO, thus denying Linda Fiorentino a Best Actress nomination after she had won numerous other awards for her performance.

by Anonymousreply 149January 2, 2024 6:08 AM

So is this another "I'm gay but the love of my life is a woman" film?

by Anonymousreply 150January 2, 2024 12:36 PM

Fun fact: Bradley's acting teacher was Elizabeth Kemp, who had her head cut-off in the classic horror film "He Knows You're Alone."

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by Anonymousreply 151January 2, 2024 6:06 PM

R150 There are other films like that. Mainstream? When did they come out?

by Anonymousreply 152January 3, 2024 1:39 AM

[quote]It’s a love story between gay man and straight woman and that just is not believable. Keeping up appearances is fine as long as you have access to fuck boys as well?

Sounds believable to me!

by Anonymousreply 153January 3, 2024 1:51 AM

Wouldn't "Bohemian Rhapsody" be classified as a "gay guy but a woman was the love of his life" film?

by Anonymousreply 154January 3, 2024 2:25 AM

R153, There are countless lavender marriages in this world.

by Anonymousreply 155January 3, 2024 2:41 AM

r155: there ARE?? I cannot believe it.

by Anonymousreply 156January 3, 2024 6:45 AM

This was made for Netflix. It only required a qualifying run for awards consideration. Its box office performance is irrelevant. With huge hits like American Sniper and A Star Is Born, plus The Hangover franchise, etc., Cooper’s more than proven his appeal at the box office.

It does appear to be a bomb on Netflix though, whether that will be revived when the Oscar nominations come out later this month remains to be seen. How big was Roma on Netflix?

Also, to me, this was about talent, drive, ambition, and yes, love, but really from the point of view of what it was like to be in this man’s orbit and how that itself was a kind of battlefield. The Bernstein character was really kept at a distance, just this sort of disruptive, chaotic presence. The film was really from the wife’s p.o.v., it was her inner life that was revealed to the camera. It really could’ve been about anybody, a rock star, like Mick Jagger. It was just essaying what life with an individual of that stature was like for the people that lived it with them, that ultimately they were all sidelined by this immense personality. Being within their origin or proximity doesn’t bring you any closer to them, apparently, but it does allow you to know them. You witness them but their life is ultimately too big; you populate the set of their life without ever really inhabiting it.

by Anonymousreply 157January 9, 2024 5:52 AM

It didn’t have a consistent rhythm. The fight scene during the Macy’s parade was beautifully shot and acted, but there was no script development for what made her turn so sour in a marriage of convenience leading up to that scene. I despised the scene where she jumps in the backyard pool to communicate her “depression”. Pretentious. Bernstein wasn’t bisexual. He was gay. The film caters too heavily on the Bernstein children’s delusion that sleeping exclusively with men while married to mama means papa must have been bi.

by Anonymousreply 158January 9, 2024 6:40 AM

“I despised the scene where she jumps in the backyard pool to communicate her “depression”.“

The scene seemed silly to me, but Jamie Bernstein in her book “Famous Father Girl” claims that it actually happened.

On another occasion, when Bernstein returned home after a hospitalization dressed in borrowed scrubs, he too jumped into the pool fully dressed.

by Anonymousreply 159January 9, 2024 8:18 AM

[quote]The film caters too heavily on the Bernstein children’s delusion that sleeping exclusively with men while married to mama means papa must have been bi.

Or the fact that there were Bernstein children means papa must have been bi.

by Anonymousreply 160January 9, 2024 8:34 AM

The Bernstein children have literally been everywhere promoting this movie, even Europe.

They obviously want to infuse interest in their father’s career and legacy and with the youngest of the three children in her sixties, this was their last chance.

by Anonymousreply 161January 9, 2024 9:05 AM

Max has the American Masters episode about Bernstein

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by Anonymousreply 162January 9, 2024 10:08 AM

R160 There was that scene where Lenny runs into his former fuck buddy, who is now married with wife and kid in the park. He says while tickling the baby, that he had slept with both its parents. A three-way perhaps? Anyhow, he seemed to be fairly fluid, with a preference for men.

by Anonymousreply 163January 9, 2024 10:47 AM

R163 No, he was definitely gay. His own wife acknowledged it in a letter. Read this article about the real couple:

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by Anonymousreply 164January 9, 2024 11:14 AM

“The fight scene during the Macy’s parade was beautifully shot and acted, but there was no script development for what made her turn so sour in a marriage of convenience leading up to that scene.”

Exactly R158 - that was my biggest problem with the film. Like most bio-pics it is too broad and too shallow. They have a whole life to cram in, so you rarely get much set-up, build or dramatic unfolding - just a string of “big moments” with little emotional context.

by Anonymousreply 165January 10, 2024 12:49 AM

R157 They nominated his other Oscar film with Cate Blanchett which was a complete bomb so we shall see.

by Anonymousreply 166January 10, 2024 12:52 AM

Loved Bradley's reaction shot at the Golden Globes, when the unfunny host made a ridiculously joke about how the penis shots in the movie Saltburn went missing in Barbie, but then showed up in the middle of Cooper's face in Maestro. What?

by Anonymousreply 167January 10, 2024 12:54 AM

R188, I think that was a combination of love for Guillermo del Toro and a very weak field. If they didn't nominate Nightmare Alley that year, the slot might have gone to Being the Ricardos, which DL loathed with a very particular passion.

Box office might be irrelevant for Netflix, but audience reaction isn't. Roma and The Power of the Dog never won Best Picture because audiences were cold to both movies, and Maestro has the same audience reaction but doesn't have the benefit of the massive critical push they got. It might get nominated for Best Picture, and Cooper and Mulligan are still safe bets, but it's clearly a movie on the downswing in terms of its award chances.

by Anonymousreply 168January 10, 2024 1:46 AM
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