Annette Bening may finally win her Oscar for Nyad

Maybe Annette is just a bad actress. I saw.an old clip from the (1988?) Tonys, and she was terrible.

As long as that Masculine Oscar Thief stays away from the fucking ceremony!

LOL!

And also

R4 fuck off, Hilary STANK!

Goddammit!!!!!

Poor G.

Jodie is on the supporting list now too

WHO????

Annette Bening should have won for her role in "Grifters" at the 1991 Academy Awards, instead of Whoopi Goldberg.

There was nothing special about Whoopi's performance in "Ghost."

Whoopi's was a makeup win after losing for The Color Purple.

^that was her real robbery. Hilary Swank just struck gold twice in roles that were perfectly suited for her. She is in no way as good an actor as Annette Bening but those parts were amazing and she took her opportunities. The thing about that dynamic is that she doesn't really work as a regular woman in any other roles. She can't play every day women. She feels off.

Annette or Lorraine Bravo should have won in 1990. I would have given my 1 to Annette but Bracco a very close second.

Bracco*

I plan to fast-forward to the part where she gets stung by jellyfish. Over and over again!

[quote] Hilary Swank just struck gold twice in roles that were perfectly suited for her. She is in no way as good an actor as Annette Bening but those parts were amazing and she took her opportunities.

I feel the same can be said about Frances McDormand, just that in her case, she struck gold three times. When she won the third time, many at Datalounge were already claiming she was a better actress than Meryl Streep. Absolute bullshit, of course, but people fail to look at other factors as to why certain actresses win over others.

What kind of specs is Jodie wearing?

Bening gets nominations but she is widely unpopular in Hollywood and will never win an Oscar. It’s Fantasia’s to lose for “The Color Purple.”

what did she do to make her so unpopular? Marry Warren?

^brilliantly stated R18. I don't think McDormand deserved the 2 Billboards Oscar. I thought that movie was shit. With giant holes. Still don't get how any police department anywhere closes and how cops can just beat the shit out of people and it's no big deal even in small towns. It's not like the film was dated. Don't even get me started on the holes in the daughter's death investigation. It was an absurd premise. She was wonderful in Fargo and Mississippi Burning but that's it. Amusing in Almost Famous but she should not have 3 Oscars. Shit just fell her way. I'd argue Swank has more claim on her two. She is incredible in both but again they are specialized parts. Not just anyone can play them and she took her opportunities. It's an incredible feat for someone who would be a B list TV actress otherwise. Good on her for taking what was in front of her I must say.

Scissor me timbers!

Carey Mulligan should have won when Fran won the 3rd but the male Academy members would never have rewarded that role. She actually should have won for An Education originally. Bullock was a ridiculous win.

If that Jodie Foster clip is any indication, this movie may be dead in the water so to speak.

Nyad was a bitch!

Can Jodie only play dykes now?

R26: We know she’s a dyke.

What clip R25 they are both being considered major contenders?

I like them both. I think it would be good for Hollywood if they were both nominated. They are both widely like and respected and in Jodie's case even fraus like and respect her as an actress which is why she had more box office hits than a lesbian would have now.

[quote]^that was her real robbery. Hilary Swank just struck gold twice in roles that were perfectly suited for her. She is in no way as good an actor as Annette Bening but those parts were amazing and she took her opportunities.

[quote]It's an incredible feat for someone who would be a B list TV actress otherwise. Good on her for taking what was in front of her I must say.

I love the fact that Hilary Swank was hired for 90210's 8th season and then unceremoniously fired midway through... then a year later she landed her first Oscar-winning role (Boys Don't Cry(. She showed them! haha

Hilary Swank has the acknowledgement of the KARATE KID fanbase, because she did THE NEXT KARATE KID (fourth installment) with Pat Morita and is therefore canon.

Bearded clams for everyone!

The fifth time is the try.

That trailer really got me. Would love to see Annette win.

I wouldn’t. She’ll be the older actress that gets the nom but not the win. And who cares? There are too many award shows. It’s relentless & dull.

R20, I want to hear more about Annette’s unpopularity in Hollywood. Please and thank you.

She’s unpopular because she’s a snob and an arrogant cunt.

Why should I apologize for being good?

Wet she's a star.

That theme song is an instant earworm.

That yelling scene reminds me of The Simpsons shut up shut up scene.

Hillary Swank is reported to be on a nearby rooftop.

Annette just isn't an interesting actress and doesn't have a lot of range.

Hilary will call her BFF Ramzan Kadyrov and have Chechen terrorists eliminate Annette in case she wins that Oscar.

Bening’s skill in the water blew everyone away. “Were like, holy shit. She’s a legitimate graceful, beautiful swimmer, and that was a huge in a lot of ways — that set the tone because then everybody’s like, OK, she put in the work. She’s elevated herself to become an athlete at this age, to do this movie. Everybody needs to step up to the level that she’s playing at,” says Oscar-winning doc makers Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi and Jimmy Chin adding: “And granted, we had all these stunt doubles. Well, they never swam.”

Is Jodie playing lez?

I'm surprised Kate McKinnon didn't try weasel her way into playing Diana Nyad.

I always found Diane Nyad so boring. I was sick of seeing her spitting out water and climbing into a boat after failing to swim somewhere. Like who cares? You want to give yourself skin cancer, waterlogged lips, and you want to ingest bacteria that can eat your brain? Go ahead, but why should the media care?

“Watch the incredible history of Diane Nyad as she…..swims.

Big fucking deal.

Let’s do an Oscar bait on a female golfer …

Charlize Theron IS Elin Nordegren.

Där är inte plogat hela vägen fram till dig!

I saw this last weekend….it was refreshing to see Jodie Foster back on the big screen….and not playing a dark, tortured soul tile character. The movie is a big Hollywood wish fulfillment hero movie and is entertaining. The filmmakers actually have you cheering for the whole Nyad team even with her bitchy, cold behavior.

Diana Nyad isn’t a warm and fuzzy character — and the screenwriter Julia Cox wrote a selfish, aggravating, smart, charismatic and driven woman who manages to inspire those around her to help her achieve her goals. “I think one thing that’s kind of tricky about Diana is she’s so well-spoken, and so intelligent and that is also intimidating. But we really wanted to be able to show her warts and all.”

She has warts?

Annette is covered in warts

And the best part of the movie was that one time when Annette got stung in the face by jellyfish!!!!!

“The only who gets to decide when I’m through is me…”

Not good review:

Annette Bening and Jodie Foster float to the top of lackluster drama... clunky, tepid script... it's hard not to feel this would've played better as a true documentary...

Maureen Lee Lenker Sun, 3 September 2023 at 3:23 am AEST·4-min read Nyad, the true story of marathon swimmer Diana Nyad and her determination to swim from Cuba to Florida, has all the trappings of classic Oscar bait.

It marks the narrative debut of award-winning documentarians Jimmy Chen and Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi (Free Solo, The Rescue) as they pivot from their nonfiction chronicles of extraordinary athletes to this dramatized biopic. Then there are its two stars — revered actresses Annette Bening and Jodie Foster, each turning in impressive work. But all that pedigree can't save Nyad from its clunky, tepid script.

Packed with archival footage from Nyad's first attempt at the swim when she was 28 and real coverage of her later efforts, it's hard not to feel this would've played better as a true documentary.

The film focuses on the older Nyad (Bening), who, at 60, decides to attempt the swim once more. She recruits her best friend Bonnie (Foster) to train her, and together they assemble a team that includes navigator John Bartlett (a careworn, gruffly lovable Rhys Ifans), scientist Angel Yanagihara (Jeena Yi), and shark expert Luke Tipple (Luke Cosgrove).

NYAD. (L-R) Annette Bening as Diana Nyad and Jodie Foster as Bonnie Stoll in NYAD NYAD. (L-R) Annette Bening as Diana Nyad and Jodie Foster as Bonnie Stoll in NYAD Kimberley French/Netflix Annette Bening and Jodie Foster in 'Nyad'

For Bening, Nyad is an undeniably juicy role, a spiky creature whose single-minded obsession with her destiny often expresses itself as brusque self-centeredness. Bening unsurprisingly put in the work, training in the pool for an entire year before filming. As Nyad, she gives a performance utterly devoid of vanity in her display of both Nyad's exacting personality and the grueling physical toll of her training and efforts. Bening insisted on filming the bulk of the swimming scenes herself — and she gives the film its stakes with every shot of her waterlogged face, cracking lips, and sunburnt eyelids.

But it is Foster who is the film's best asset,

Annette should ask around Hollywood if there are movies in development about the election lies. Maybe, she could win an Oscar for playing Sidney Powell.

Fuck that masculine Oscar thief Hilary STANK!

Talent free and the bitch has two Oscars!

Foster is hankering to win that third. It would be hilarious if that went down and Bening is denied a fifth time. This is assuming they’re both nominated. Bening would probably go home after the ceremony and dunk her head in the toilet.

another fucking biopic! Enuff!

We could definitely have a Jodiessance if she gets a supporting nom AND has the True Detective season coming out early next year.

Maybe, I should donate my Oscar to Annette. No, just kidding won't be doing that lol.

Oh wow a movie about ….swimming.

Like anyone gave a shit if this old fart swam from Cuba to FL or not.

[quote] Maybe Annette is just a bad actress

I’ve never understood the hype. She over enunciates her words, which is distracting. If she hadn’t married Warren Beatty would we even know who she is?

At the 2000 Oscars, I thought for sure Bening would win for these reasons...

- Swank won Golden Globe (Drama), but Bening won SAG.

- (Bening also won BAFTA, but that was the last year they were held in April after the Oscars, so they were meaningless at the time. Besides, Swank wasn't eligible that year, but she lost the following year to Julia Roberts in ERIN BROCKOVICH.)

- AMERICAN BEAUTY was the most-nominated film and won 4 of the Top 5 Oscars: Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Screenplay.

- Bening's husband, Warren Beatty, received the Irving Thalberg Award. In those days, the honorary Oscars were still presented on the actual televised ceremony.

- Bening was heavily pregnant

R65 it may have been a razor thin victory, but Swank blew her out of the water in terms of performance. AB has not aged well. Bening played her role too cutesy and shrill I thought. She’s a talented actress when given the right material, but this imo is her weakest of four nominations.

"What about me finally winning my fucking Oscar."

Bening is consistently good. Should have been nominated for "20th Century Women "but it wasn't a big enough film. She was deserving of a win in "The Grifters" and "American Beauty" and I was cheering for her in "The Kids Are All Right". I'm not surprised she's never won an Oscar. Let's face it, Americans have shitty taste.

R68. Thank you. I absolutely love 20th Century Women, and holy fuck she was amazing in Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool (possibly the one she really should have won for-

The haters for her in this thread kind of surprised me. And I have never gotten any vibe that she is a "snobby cunt" in real life- Like, at all.

Annette will win the Oscar when she plays herself in "The Warren Beatty Story" or plays Elizabeth in "The Elizabeth Warren Story."

She needs to play a vile cunt like Sidney Powell in order to get an Oscar.

This place is something else.

Isn't the separation of best ACTOR and best ACTRESS transphobic?

After she did her swim, Andy Kauffman challenged her to a wrestling match. She wisely said no and then Kauffman went around mocking her swim. In fairness, she thought only butch sports were good spotlights for women and called rhythmic gymnastics a sissy sport.

As the first Congressman to swim around Long Island, I look forward to seeing a dramatic movie based on this challenging endeavor starring Chris Pratt as me!

She comes across like a shrill obnoxious tryhard, and I'm sorry, but I cannot ever imagine her fitting into that skin-tight, sleek Catwoman outfit the way that Michelle Pfeiffer did!

This is already off the cards. The Nyad film was politely received at Telluride by no one is talking about it and the film’s subject has become radioactive. Annette probably won’t even get nominated.

Today has Kate Winslet sneaking up as the new fave for Lee.

Who is the audience for this?

Isn’t Annette just playing herself here to a certain degree? A woman who failed four times in accomplishing a goal.

Annette will get nominated but she’ll be her film’s sole nomination. Like Glenn Close for The Wife.

Review of "Lee."

R76 why do you want to imagine that?

Diana NYAD looka like a man!

[quote] Isn’t Annette just playing herself here to a certain degree? A woman who failed four times in accomplishing a goal. —M

Or is that G?

We really could be talking about a number of my competitors.

I would have called them peers, but in order to be a peer, you must be in the same league.

R85: We would call you a peer but you're not in the Triple Crown of Acting.

Nyad not ratified.

R87 what does that mean?

ratified (past tense) · ratified (past participle) sign or give formal consent to (a treaty, contract, or agreement), making it officially valid.

Pride Source says A big thanks to whomever decided that Jodie Foster and Annette Bening should do a movie together — because we are forever grateful to that person.

I'm surprised there haven't been any people complaining about straight woman Annette playing a lesbian.

R90 - It was Warren hoping to get into a threesome. Sadly, at this point, he'd need to wear a strap-on too.

Obviously Jodie wanted to play Diana but was unable to gain the bulk.

She was really good in The American President too - even if it was fluff.

Man, the Grifters. That's always an enjoyable rewatch. Cusack, Bening, and Huston all play that pure underlying desperation so well, no matter how together or not together they are on the surface.

Nyad is played by Annette Bening, who trained for a year to ready herself for the physical demands of the role. It’s quite a testament to actorly commitment: This movie can’t have been fun to film, at least not for the person playing the woman who spends so much time working her way through the open ocean. Bening embodies both the grace and the unbearable strain of Nyad’s effort, its grandeur and its ugliness.

She’s a pleasure in the film’s drier scenes too. Bening plays Nyad as a bit of a kook—because, obviously, anyone who would choose to swim for 53 hours straight has to be at least a little weird. Brash and self-involved, Nyad is not easy to love. But Bening thoughtfully maps the character’s insecurity, the loneliness of her tunnel-visioned pursuit. She urges an empathy for Nyad’s intense desire; who among us hasn’t wanted, fiercely, for some crazy thing to happen?

Bening has terrific support from Jodie Foster, an actor of exceeding appeal who does not work near often enough these days. (Not enough from the audience’s perspective, at least; I trust that she’s happy with her work-life balance as it is.) As Bonnie Stoll, Nyad’s best friend and eventual coach, Foster glows with affable charm. Chin and Vasarhelyi, working with Julia Cox’s script, also make room for Bonnie to assert herself, her own needs, devoted as she is to Nyad’s solitary mission—though, I suppose it’s not really that solitary. Nyad had some 40 people on several boats following her as she cut her way across the sea.

Jodie should only have won for SOTL

I’m confused, does she play Nyad sitting in a room looking back on her career and someone younger is swimming?

There's no confusion, Tina. At the age of 60, Diana Nyad felt that she had — 32 years prior, she’d begun an attempt to swim from Cuba to Florida, a 110-mile marathon. Due to strong winds, Nyad was forced to abandon her attempt. Nyad is back in the water and training again for the swim that had eluded her for decades. “You did not make it when you were 28,” she tells her friend. “You’re 60!” But Nyad is undeterred; she will go the distance, no matter the odds.

I don't like to spend time with that kind of person, Nyad. This film sounds tiresome no matter how well it's made and the performances. Maybe I'll give it a try out of respect and blind faith.

But, who plays the younger Diane? Annette with a full head prosthetic?

Good for her. I would have awarded her for the kids are all Right over Natalie Portman's dance double. She was subtle and affecting.

Should have gone supporting for American Beauty

Possibly she should have won for The Grifters if Whoopi had won in 85. I think some of the older female Academy members may have been turned off though as she shockingly shows full tits, ass and muff.

I think they use news footage of the real Nyad when she was young.

The Guardian

Nyad review – swim biopic lifted by Annette Bening and Jodie Foster

Two stellar performances add weight to Netflix’s uneven retelling of the story of Diana Nyad, who attempted to swim from Cuba to Florida at the age of 64.

While a dedicated Bening gives her all in a tough, physically demanding role, deserving of at least another nomination if not necessarily a win, it’s Foster who steals the film with a fine reminder of her easy charisma. We’ve barely seen the actor in the last decade, Nyad allows her to be a real person for once, a test that not many movie stars can ace quite this well. The pair have the chemistry of old friends and when they’re on screen together and on dry land, Nyad is swimmingly good.

It's a good thing for Hollywood for someone like Jodie to be nominated. She's part of the old old Hollywood guard after the Golden Age and almost everyone respects and likes her. After Julia Roberts she is probably that era's most successful and respected actresses.

I disagree with the argument that Annette Bening is overdue for an Oscar win. The Grifters is my favorite performance of hers, but I don't think of it as a must-win work, and Swank was far better in Boys Don't Cry than Bening's shrill caricature in American Beauty. Imelda Staunton should have won over her and Swank in 2004, and I thought Michelle Williams in Blue Valentine was easily the stand out of the 2010 Best Actress roster, which included Bening's most recent bid for The Kids Are All Right.

Bening is a good but uneven actress, and four nominations is ample recognition for her career, especially compared to more talented peers like Kathleen Turner and Judy Davis who managed just one and two nominations for stronger bodies of work.

Variety

Where Diana’s arrogance can be a lot to take at times, as her best friend Bonnie, Foster proves a buoyant presence — like the human equivalent of those adorable pink floaties kids wear in the pool. The movie would sink without her. And so would Diana Nyad.

TIFF

Bening is the best she has ever been as Nyad, embracing the athlete's stubbornness and strong will to a tee. Despite not having a background in swimming, the actress made sure to train her strokes to make them as consistent as possible and it shows. Given that NYAD has multiple underwater sequences both in swimming pools and on high tides, it is impressive to see that Bening continues to keep a steady pace. She might not be a professional swimmer, but she can fool audiences with her ease at sea and unwavering determination.

Scathing review. Why do they refer to her as 'Christine'?

If it's bad, why would Jodie attach herself to such a sketchy project? The payday must have been irresistible.

Jodie is looking good.

I would go for Glenn before Bening. No Oscar for Glenn is the biggest travesty in its history.

I like wordless acting. One of the best wordless scenes in modern cinema history was one of Bening's in "The Kids Are All Right."

Name one year R111 when Glenn was undeniably the best of the five?

[QUOTE] Today has Kate Winslet sneaking up as the new fave for Lee.

That’s not happening.

Glenn should've won in 1989, for DANGEROUS LIAISONS.

R115 in retrospect Meryl gave the performance of the year for A Cry In The Dark in 88 so I don't feel that bad that Jodie sneaked in to win. I don't even think.Glenn was runner up that year, she wasn't even nominated at the globes as the movie was pushed out so quickly.

r46, I have friends who worked on this and they said the same thing about Annette. They were flabbergasted that she did all of her own swimming. Also the directors didn't know the hell what they were doing.

Nice try Bening, but Hillary Swank will be starring as a trans, nonbinary alcoholic Martian subjected to domestic abuse who overcame her challenges to run for president--and won!

Meryl was amazing in A Cry In the Dark but I think Jodie won for multiple narratives not least of which was that it was a very taxing, physically exhausting performance that I believe when you watch it you feel as though she has been put through the ringer both emotionally and physically. The disturbing rape sequences would be respected by almost any actor for just the effort and bravery.

NYT profile of Annette

I was surprised at how unlikable Bening made Nyad. I don’t know if she’s really like that or Annette just enjoys being a cunt onscreen. Conversely, Jodie Foster has never been more likable. She elevates what could be a thankless role—the supportive best friend—and is the heart of the film.

The Actress race seems to be more competitive than the Supporting Actress race. How will Annette react if Jodie is nominated and she isn’t?

Oscars Predictions: Supporting Actress

And the Predicted Nominees Are: Da'Vine Joy Randolph - "The Holdovers" (Focus Features) Emily Blunt - "Oppenheimer" (Universal Pictures) Julianne Moore - "May December" (Netflix) America Ferrera - "Barbie" (Warner Bros.) Cara Jade Myers – "Killers of the Flower Moon" (Apple Original Films/Paramount Pictures)

Next in Line Jodie Foster – "Nyad" (Netflix) Sandra Hüller - "The Zone of Interest" (A24) Rachel McAdams - "Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret" (Lionsgate) Penélope Cruz - "Ferrari" (Neon) ** Juliette Binoche - "The Taste of Things" (IFC Films/Sapan Studios)

Annette has lost out on nominations for several movie people thought she was likely to be recognised for

Coastal Disturbances

Best Actress Predictions

Lily Gladstone — “Killers of the Flower Moon” (Apple Original Films/Paramount Pictures) Emma Stone — “Poor Things” (Searchlight Pictures) Carey Mulligan — “Maestro” (Netflix) Margot Robbie — “Barbie” (Warner Bros.) Sandra Hüller — “Anatomy of a Fall” (Neon)

NEXT IN LINE Aunjanue Ellis-Taylor — “Origin” (Neon) Natalie Portman — “May December” (Netflix) Greta Lee — “Past Lives” (A24) Cailee Spaeny — “Priscilla” (A24) Annette Bening — “Nyad” (Netflix)

I hope Sandra Huller does get a nod for Anatomy of a Fall. She is superb.

I hope Hilary STANK falls on a banana peel!

People will watch anything

Are Annette and Jodie lovers in this film?

R130 yes

[QUOTE] Cara Jade Myers – "Killers of the Flower Moon" (Apple Original Films/Paramount Pictures)

This is such an inspired prediction. Myers was amazing in “Killers” and stole the film at moments. A harrowing final scene too.

R130, no, they’re not. They’re best friends.

They're fwb.

Nyad is a typical pathological lying lezzie

Why do butch lesbians always make up the biggest stories?

I think Foster has a better shot at a nomination than Bening. The Supporting Actress category is very weak this year. Actress and Actor categories are packed with potential nominees.

What eyewear is Jodi wearing in OP’s pic?

R138 all her eyewear is rayban

Get ready for all the Lezzies to copy her gruff look

Saw it last night and Jodie is the standout and more subtle. Annette doesn’t do anything we haven’t seen before from her. If she was ever going to win it was for Film Stars don’t die in Liverpool, which was restrained, subtle and brilliant. This is just the same scenery chewing, strained constipation face performance she’s done innumerable times now. If she pulls off a nomination much less a win it’ll be due to a brilliant marketing campaign by Netflix, and based on the hype that she trained to swim and filmed in the tank for 8 hours straight etc. Jodie is a lock for a nomination.

Damn, that Nyad site is hilarious.

Best Actress Predictions

Lily Gladstone — “Killers of the Flower Moon” (Apple Original Films/Paramount Pictures) Emma Stone — “Poor Things” (Searchlight Pictures) Carey Mulligan — “Maestro” (Netflix) Margot Robbie — “Barbie” (Warner Bros.) Sandra Hüller — “Anatomy of a Fall” (Neon)

I would be happy to exchange Annette for Margot Robbie. For Barbie??????

America Ferrara has a better chance of getting an Oscar nomination for Ugly Betty than she does Barbie.

Barbie doesn’t deserve shit, that movie was so choppy and uneven in every way. Margot’s worst role.

Oh god, are you that same retarded troll that was literally EVERYWHERE in the Barbie threads this summer saying the same exact thing? You certainly sound like IT.

Have not seen Killers of the Flower Moon but read that Lily plays more a supporting role. Also I doubt Academy members will bother seeing Anatomy of a Fall so that means Sandra Huller is an extreme long shot. Emma Stone only won recently and Carey Mulligan antagonized many with Promising Young Woman. That leaves Annette with the best narrative - overdue actress with past multiple nominations.

[quote]Also I doubt Academy members will bother seeing Anatomy of a Fall so that means Sandra Huller is an extreme long shot.

I hope not, as she deserves to be included. The fact that most of the movie is actually in English, despite being a French production, might help edge her into a nod.

R146 lol you are a hoot!

Nettie isn’t going to pull a nomination this year, I’m afraid. Not a for a performance that is mostly relevant in the pool at the local leisure centre.

Can’t wait to see a film where the dynamic is “I want to swim! I’ve GOT TO swim, dammit!”

Jump’s into water.

Swims.

Swims some more

Brie Larson has a Best Actress Oscar so I guess anybody can get one.

R151: Except Glenn.

Nyad is such an unlikable character.

She's not overdue. She married Warren beatty and he cast the nearly dead Katherine Hepburn for a 1994 movie no one remembers where she passes a mantle piece to her. He's bought her pr and he's irrelevant in modern Hollywood. She's not a household name and no one will remember this movie in a year. Frances mcdormand and Michelle Pfeiffer are way more successful than annete is.

R82, "Lee"? As though that nothing name were as iconic and recognizable as "Elvis" or "Oppenheimer"? Robert E. Lee? Lee Atwater? Christopher Lee?

Oh, Lee MILLER!

The pretension.

Former, decades ago, for a short time R130.

Watching this last night, I said to my wife, “Look Jodie Foster dresses just like you.” I don’t see that’ll be so much copying as well that’s how many of us dress.

There seemed to be a lot of obvious product placements which I guess makes sense, but I found distracting.

I watched it last night on Netflix.

The real bummer is Annette is really good (as is Foster) but she is such an annoying character that it’s painful to root for her.

I don’t think she will win the Oscar, which is a bummer because this would have been her best shot.

Bening isn't winning shit. She's not liked.

Diana Nyad is an asshole; she plays reveille at 4;45 a.m.

I doubt Bening even gets a nomination!

I do think Bening isn’t liked which is why she never wins…but it has to be humbling to be the front runner twice and and the last minute lose to the same person

What if Jodie pulled a surprise win for LEAD, like Kate Winslet for The Reader?

And the nominees are…

Annette Bening for Nyad

Sandra Huller for Anatomy of a Fall

Carey Mulligan in Maestro

Margot Robbie for Barbie

Emma Stone for Poor Things

I predict Lilly Gladstone will be snubbed. She should be in Supporting Actress. Natalie Portman will also be snubbed. May December will divide voters. If Bening doesn’t get the sympathy vote, Huller could win this.

think it's almost certain to go to Lily Gladstone. It was really the performance of the year, PLUS she would be the first Native American to win Best Actress or Best Actor.

R164, nobody knows her and Hollywood is highly biased to “star quality”. They give the Oscar to younger people only if they believe it will accelerate their careers to become the next A lister (Portman, Witherspoon, Larson, Lawrence).

R164, I went to Killers of a Flower Moon expecting (and hoping) to be wowed by Gladstone. She does a good job with what she has to work with, but the screenplay and the direction really work against her—she’s presented as a passive victim, which is not particularly interesting and isn’t the type of performance that tends to win awards. The movie’s focus is definitely on the villains.

I hope Huller wins. I know it's a rarity for a foreign film to win a performance Oscar, but maybe the fact that the bulk of her performance is in English will help her.

Fantasia will win.

R168, she’s the wild card. That film has no buzz yet, which is odd. If Fantasia gets in, I predict Carey Mulligan will be snubbed.

Watched dykes swimming. I mean whatever it was. She won’t get nominated. I’m not good at guessing these things - it’s just a dull film. Annette is a fine actress but one I never think about. She should’ve been nominated for the liverpool thing. I was never a fan of American Beauty (overrated). Dykes is on netflix

I think Greta Lee will be the darkhorse for Past Lives. I don't see anyone beating Fantasia.

^^ Love her R171. (Greta) NOT Fantasia.

Fantasia can't win. If she did, how would she ever be able to read the name for Best Actor on the card for the 2024 race?

For those who find Nyad the character unlikeable, she is nice to her dog.

The idea that she has a superiority complex is part of the plot. That may strike some people as unlikeable but I find her determination admirable, and her shortness with some people funny.

It looks like young Annette and old Annette in OP pic.

A bitchy comment - how did she age so rapidly? She was such a fox in The Grifters and Bugsy. That was 28 years ago, but today, even outside of her Nyad wardrobe and character, she really looks so damn old now (and masculine). Even Meryl and Sigourney, who are older, still appear to have estrogen flowing in their bodies. Bening seems to have flipped the switched abruptly from estrogen to testosterone in her mid-life. I applaud her for avoiding injections and fillers, but her journey from glamorous leading lady to butch middle aged woman appears to have been a short one, like a light switch between Being Julia and The Kids Are Alright.

Oh, don't you worry your tiny racist mind, r173.

Do you think Rhys Ifans may be up for Best Supporting Actor? Variety lists him as 22 in the predictions.

R177 wasn't there rumors here she was older than she claimed to be?

Wouldn’t the real Nyad’s history of being a serial fabulist hurt Bening’s chances?

It also don’t help that Annette played the character like she had advanced Down syndrome. It was like a sketch out of SNL in some parts

I'm trying to watch the movie for the second time; this time I made it about a third of the way in before I quit.

Bah. If I want to watch Annette Bening, I'll watch The Grifters or American Beauty. This movie is boring as shit.

Those intercut flashbacks annoyed me.

To her as a child, I mean.

Bugsy and the Grifters were almost 33 years ago. 33 years ago in 1991 was 1958. Think about how Shirley McClaine in some came running and Elizabeth Taylor in cat on a hot tin roof looked in 1958

She played a middle aged mother when she was 30 in “the great outdoors”.

R183 - there is definitely a loss of narrative momentum when Nyad fails the swim repeatedly. But the ending made me cry.

Nyad is the CODA of 2023! Elderly Oscar voters are gonna love it.

I think Annette was quite good in this. She was portraying an extremely unlikable narcissist. That was the whole point. The character is a mess and a pain in the ass to everyone around her. It wasn’t bad acting on Annette’s part that made Nyad seem like an asshole. From most accounts she objectively was a huge pain in the ass to be around, and Benning really brought that to life in the movie.

I don’t think it was an Oscar winning performance, but I’d be happy to see her at least be nominated. I’ve not really been paying attention lately to the horse race of who’s in contention for which project, so I have no idea whether she’d be a real contender for the prize. This was good but not excellent; if she wins an Oscar it would be a consolation prize like Erin Brokovich or The Blind Side.

Jodi Foster I don’t think will generate any awards buzz, but she was so real and natural. It was awesome to see her play a plain jane lez. I’d love to see a Jodi renaissance and a 3rd Oscar for her doing something very cane-faced and heartfelt.

[quote] A bitchy comment - how did she age so rapidly? She was such a fox in The Grifters and Bugsy. That was 28 years ago, but

You answered your own question.

NEXT!

I watched this last evening, and Foster stole the show. It may have been that the Diana Nyad character is so unlikeable and obnoxious that Foster’s role seems like a masterclass in understated acting. To be fair, Bening did rein it in a bit when you compare to the real life footage of the insufferable Nyad…the dial was turned down from 11 to 8. The goal was an arbitrary, weird and dangerous obsession and reminds me of those recent docs about free divers who die trying to break depth records.

I agree on Jodie Foster. The only movie of hers I can’t watch is Nell, and she knows WHY!

[quote]She was portraying an extremely unlikable narcissist.

Sounds like her to a tee.

Did anyone else laugh when that young Australian girl had to give up her attempt at the swim because of the jellyfish?

It's a brisk movie; an easy watch. It's really just a short intro, the swim attempts, meeting the characters around Nyad who help in Nyad's attempts, and the moment of triumph. Foster was good. Bening is good too, but it all just comes across as TV Movie - though an enjoyable TV Movie.

Will she get a Golden Globe?

This is not a great film but it's better than people are giving it credit for. (Awards watchers, not posters here.)

Bening and Foster are both terrific in it but....there's always a sense that a big part of this story isn't being told and that kind of character study of Diana Nyad would probably have been much more interesting than this, albeit inspiring, but kind of rah-rah hagiography. If the filmmakers focused more on character and specifically the relationships they might have located more of the story here, instead of what feels like an ESPN documentary with extra dramatised bits by two A-list actors.

Foster could easily pull out a Supporting nomination, maybe even a win depending on the affection the Academy holds for her, though it is a competitive year.

Bening has a harder time of it because we're not getting the full Diana Nyad here; sure, she has recognisable character traits but there's a lot of controversy surrounding this person which is just completely excised from this telling. The character as presented here has faults, to be sure, but not the kind of narcissistic elements that lead to all of the exaggeration and outright spells of fantasy she's accused of - which would be interesting but would make her somewhat less heroic (though certainly a personality for our times). I don't think Nyad is a malicious character but she is prone to exaggeration and perhaps a short-sightedness that works against her in the long run.

Being and Foster are terrific together (and Rhys Ifans tries hard to get in on some of that action too) which is why the film should've focused more, almost exclusively, on their relationship. Though it does to a point, it's always in service to Nyad's ultimate goal so it can deliver the big sports film ending, when the film is perhaps more organically about aging and found family and personal histories. Often how Nyad persuades her team to continue with her is completely truncated or happens off-screen, which does give it certain comedy, but there's more to those moments, I'm sure, that would've made for a more engaging drama. Too often here the dramatic resolutions are assumed before they're even defined and it's only the skill of the actresses involved that mine the material for more depth. I think for all of these reasons, Bening is kind of out of the running for an Oscar nomination but I'm sure she'll get a Golden Globe nod.

And those flashback inserts. Oh boy. Those always felt like a little note of the filmmakers' intentions like those are ideas they were going to develop further and fold into the script that they never got back to. Very hackneyed.

But the film was worth a watch, for sure. I loved the scene when Foster came back to her in the kitchen and said, "I tried having my own life...but it didn't work out." I mean, it was just a scratch on the surface of what this film could've been. And I loved how Bening found the comedy in her character - the knowingness - without just commenting on it or overplaying it. It was beautifully done.

Thanks for your insightful thoughts R187. I will try to find the movie online now as I no longer have Netflix access

Sorry I mean R197

R151 = Gwyneth Paltrow

Nice try, b*tch, but you set the bar.

It's not looking good for dear Annie. Her chances for a nomination dwindle by the day.

I’m surprised Jodie Foster is also losing steam. I thought she gave a great performance. Maybe the Golden Globes will save her (as they sometimes do) but it’s not looking good

They're very good performances, but the movie isn't Oscar-y. It's like a very good made-for-TV movie.

BSAs are going to RDJr and Lily Gladstone.

Oops! Make that BA for Lily.

Oscar for that high camp grizzled bull act? I was LOL as she's bellowing into a toilet. and looking like that? JFC, of course have the hair a bright blonde with that red ass skin and horrific wrinkling. I mean, that was true to life..

R204, Gladstone is not up for Supporting. She’s lead.

Supporting Actress front runner is DaVine Joy Randolph. I hope Jodie, Julianne, Danielle, and Penelope Cruz are nominated as well. Rachel McAdams could sneak in.

Well someone named "DaVine" is obviously going to win the fucking statue. And an Indian woman? She's getting it too. Move on...

Yes, r209. Da’Vine also attended Yale University. You?

R210 Wonder how she got in..

R211, pls whitesplain. Don’t hold your anonymous ass back on the Datalounge.

I tried, I really tried, but I was so bored by the movie after 45 minutes, I bailed.

Her timing sucks, she married Warren on his downslide

R214, And their first kid transitioned.

Hillary Swank is a minimally talented actress who never should have won one Oscar, much less two.

Hilary Swank was truly exceptional in Boys Don’t Cry and absolutely deserved the Oscar that year. She was such a nobody at that point too that everyone just believed she was Brandon Teena. Who was your choice, R216? Meryl in that awful violin movie?

Poor Annette. Unless something unusual happens, I think this ends with a Golden Globe nomination. Which is equally embarrassing

Watching now. Quite a fearless performance

She's alive!! SHE'S ALIVE!!

I think the elimination of Margot Robbie opens up an Annette win. I would be so happy.

But can she beat the Lily Gladstone train?

I would LAUGH if all the delusional queens on DL ended up being right and Benning won an Oscar for this shitty little TV movie.

Bening is fine in Nyad, and I'd have more problem with her winning, but I'd see it more as a career Oscar. Like Denzel with Training Day - a fine performance but so far from his best work.

I think one of the strengths of Annette’s performance in NYAD is how she makes such an unlikable woman rootable. By the end, you are totally with her. Jodie Foster’s wonderful supporting turn did a lot to humanize Diana too. I’m glad that they were both nominated because their performances are such a package deal.

That's a good point, R225.

It's Annette's time. She deserves the Oscar for Nyad.