YouTuber Ruby Franke was arrested after ‘emaciated’ child with duct tape around extremities ran for help

Fucking sick Bitch.

Mormons?

Let’s cut through the tape. These urchins too often fall from grace.

Both parents are wackos- one can only imagine what went on in that house.

The fraus of Reddit love to obsessively build cases against mommy bloggers and vloggers. A quick search for Franke yields many discussions that mention things like "Using food and sleeping in a bed as a privilege. WHO IN THE HELL DOES THIS?" and "Ruby Franke is a vile human being and I hope she goes to jail and has her kids taken away from her." That was from two years ago.

These social media/YouTube families are sick, sick fuckers. They all keep having kids for clicks.

Remember that thread here several years ago about that one bitch who adopted a shy little east Asian boy and then gave him away ‘under the table’ when he wasn’t ratings gold like she thought he’d be?

Just the fact that Youtuber is now a career makes me sad.

Emaciated child? Is it our Darfur orphan?

These influencers are trash, but their Reddit hate groups are as crazy as shithouse rats.

I looked around at the Hilaria Baldwin subreddit, and I wonder how the children of these Reddit fraus feel about their moms spending so much time microanalyzing and criticizing every pixel of a complete stranger’s parenting and children.

I imagine them struggling to do their homework alone in a dirty apartment as mommy hammers out multiple paragraphs criticizing a celebrity’s toddler’s diet, meanwhile, their own dinner is going to be a hot dog, Takis and a Diet Coke!

R9=Alec

Go take a shower and feed your kid, R10.

Food deprivation was a frequent punishment apparently. The mom punished her 5 year old that way because the child didn’t get herself up in time to make her lunch before kindergarten.

What’s “Takis”, precious? What’s “Takis”?

Well no one wants to see fat kids on YouTube, R12! That bitch really doubled down over the years— never heard of her until today. Are they Canadian? Why do they talk like that?

R13, Takis are brand of rolled tortilla chips coated in a spicy neon blue powder.

More clicks for Murdoch. Great.

LAZY OP

More dicks for R15 . Please.

REALLY LAZY OP

REALLY REALLY LAZY OP

oh so now parents can be arrested for not letting their kids have dessert

Um, r5? I don’t know if you’re keeping up on current affairs, but they seem to have had a point.

So it appears that the neglected children aren’t Franke’s, they are her business partner’s, and they were in the business partner’s home.

But Franke had been in that home just days before, filming YouTube videos.

[quote] Just the fact that Youtuber is now a career makes me sad.

Why? It’s just a way to produce and distribute video content. I follow and really enjoy the video content of numerous YouTube content creators who make a lot or all of their income from YouTube videos. Here’s just one example:

"The fraus of Reddit love to obsessively build cases against mommy bloggers and vloggers."

It's a fair bet that parenting bloggers and vloggers are all narcissistic phonies, or at least the ones who show the word a vision of a perfect family are. Those are all the sort of people who want to make the whole world believe they're the best parents ever, and who spend their private hours screaming at the kids for failing to be the ultra-photogenic content-producing wonders that their parents deserve, you ugly lazy worthless piece of shit five-year-old!

Easy pickings, proving mommy bloggers are child-abusing bitches, but it's nice to see that the law is going to come down on one at least.

I’m surprised the older girl was “permitted” to attend college.

Or maybe her leaving the family was the reason the younger kids were to be “not permitted near other kids”

I'm confused why some on Twitter are saying this is a trans issue?

R26 Everything’s a trans issue nowadays.

[quote] Takis are brand of rolled tortilla chips coated in a spicy neon blue powder.

Thank you, R14.

[quote] who spend their private hours screaming at the kids for failing to be the ultra-photogenic content-producing wonders that their parents deserve

They're props not kids.

Mormons?

[quote]Um, [R5]? I don’t know if you’re keeping up on current affairs, but they seem to have had a point.

That they had a point was the point of my post.

I guess hot white trash son Chad got out just in time.

Hoodies that aren’t full-zip always look trashy. I’m not saying regular hoodies are high fashion, but those ones you pull over your head with the muff sewn on the front are so walmarty, I don’t care what brand they are. Yuck!

(Re: the kid in R32)

Thank you R33. A fashion POV is refreshing, like a bit of a breeze off the lake.

That's a young Ellen, at r32.

Does Chad have “an” Onlyfans?

I said he's trash but you can't deny he's cute trash and a natural blond.

R38, what's wrong with your eyes that you can't spot dark roots?

Maybe his hair is naturally fair-ish, but it's streaked to hell and gone.

He was a blond boy and blond teenager. He's blond.

Okay, he's a natural blond, but one with douchebag highlights.

Most natural blonde hair darkens in adulthood, to a deep gold or mouse color. People who were bright blonds as kids frequently get their hair lightened as adults, I did and he does.

I'm OK with that assessment. My only point is that he looks happy in photos but who knows what hell he experienced growing up. I'm glad he's out and not permanently damaged by starvation, for example.

That's what passes for hot?

Is he out out?

[quote] Hoodies that aren’t full-zip always look trashy. I’m not saying regular hoodies are high fashion, but those ones you pull over your head with the muff sewn on the front are so walmarty, I don’t care what brand they are. Yuck!

I never thought about this, but the pullover hoodies must be cheaper to make. I don't wear hoodies at all. If I need something on my head, I'll wear my fake fur Russian hat.

Pullover hoodies don't require zippers, so they're cheaper. Zipper Farmers charge so much for a good zipper nowadays.

I don’t like the word “hoodie”. I don’t like “guncle” either.

R47 damn straight! No to “guncle”.

I don’t like “hoodie” either, but that battle was lost decades ago.

And definitely NEVER guncle. Guncle should be cancelled.

Guncle thread.

What were hoodies called back in the day? Hoodshirts?

R52, A hoodie was called a ‘hooded sweatshirt’ or a ‘sweatshirt with a hood’ by most people, up until the mid to late 90s.

I grew up Mormon in Utah. I think child abuse is a lot more normalized there than in the rest of the country, especially in the church. The whole ‘kids deserve no privacy’ mindset is extremely common. The first boy I hooked up with (also Mormon, also closeted) was regularly beaten by his parents. This whole thing isn’t surprising at all - it’s mostly just surprising that CPS actually took it seriously.

I’m actually surprised to hear Mormons are so into corporal punishment. I know the fundies love it so much they even use coded language for it so their fellow religious nuts know what they are saying without having to actually say it.

Examples of code language please, R55.

R9 is obsessively liking their post

Hilaria Baldwin is a piece of shit. Anyone paying even a little attention can see her craziness. That horde that surrogates birthed will all be a hot mess in about 8 years.

Didn’t I say influencers are all shit, R57? You can’t read?

You’re just mad because I said you’re fucking nuts, too. QED.

I’m not liking my own post— my sense of self worth isn’t tied up in “likes”, unlike you losers on Reddit— speaking of which, get the fuck out of here.

Fuck off r58. You must be on the Baldwins payroll or the bloviating fool himself

She’s a fucking nut. You don’t need to be Reddit to know that. Amy fucking Schumer called her a sociopath on her Netflix special

BTW, You seemed obsessed with Reddit

I rest my case.

R56 a good example is an ad for a new church that opened up somewhere near my town. I live in CT which is a blue state and we have fundies but they are more discreet. In this ad the pastors talked about the program they have for children. They used coded language like “train up a child” “a child that listens” (or something like that) and some other stuff I recognized as references to fundie beliefs on child rearing.

Basically “train up a child” refers to a book by the same name that teaches fundies how and when to hit their kids. It advocates for things like “blanket training” which is too gross to get into but you can look it up on the web. “Listen” is just code for obey. Fundies believe in absolute obedience no matter what or the kid gets beaten. Shit like that.

Thank you, R61.

R61, I looked up blanket training. It seems ridiculously cruel.

There is a forum somewhere on the web that discusses the Duggars and other shitty fundies. So many of these people have blogs and love to talk about their experiences punishing their kids. Sometimes it is disturbingly abusive, obvious generational dysfunction being passed down under the guise of raising their kids God’s way. Sometimes it’s idiotic parents who truly believe that God wants them to physically punish their kids to teach them obedience, because that is the only way to raise a good person.

Anyway, some of the fundie bloggers found out about the Duggar forum and would come over to post arguing with the forum members who criticize them. One couple shared their heartbreaking (🙄) experience teaching their two year old daughter the importance of obedience. She would not pick up her toys so they ended up spanking her off and on all day. The couple said that they hated doing it and explained to their kid over and over the importance of minding them but alas… They found the whole experience just so emotionally exhausting, but they were doing it for the benefit of the child! It was crickets though when a forum member pointed out that it wasn’t defiance that made their 2 year old unwilling to pick up her toys, rather she probably lacked the motor skills to do as they asked. When toddlers get frustrated they scream and cry. I bet that was a very frustrated and terrified 2 year old.

The teenaged blonde boy looks so much like every inbred Mormon I grew upw up with.

Large white teeth. Check.

Nordic background/natural blonde hair. Check.

Gummy smile. Check.

All he needs is a polo shirt and a pill popping zombie wife.

Several years ago when Marie Osmond was a co-host on The Talk, she told a story about how her fat mother lunged at her, knocked her to the ground and was choking her for some smart comment Marie made to her. Of course, Marie was kind of laughing when she said it, cause she’s kinda nuts herself from all that good parenting she received.

R65, did you grow up in Utah?

R67 no. More North.

As God as my witness I will NOT have fat... LAZY children!

No one understands the nuanced dynamics of child-rearing. You can't make an omelet if don't crack a few eggs.

R70 except in this case in which no eggs can be used. Substitute cracking of bones.

[quote]There is a forum somewhere on the web that discusses the Duggars and other shitty fundies.

Probably Free Jinger. I think we lost our Dominion Wackiness Troll to that site.

Dominion Wackiness Troll was an excellent troll.

Sloppily reported, lazy. Flaccid. It isn't clear which child was arrested. The business manager's or the YouTubers. I have read the abused and neglected child belongs to the business manager who has also been arrested.

It isn't clear which child's PARENT was arrested.

None of this is clear to me. Apparently this lady, Ruby, was arrested. Her "business partner" was also arrested. The child escaped from the business partner's house but it's not clear to me that the parent of this child is the youtuber's or if it's the business partner's. Same goes for the other child they found restrained with duct tape in the house. Apparently four other children were removed (from that house or from the people arrested?) as well.

If the business partner is not the father of Ruby's children, where is the father? Does he go along with the abusive punishments that Ruby doles out?

Is everyone in Utah fucking crazy and backwards?

Who gives a fuck about the emaciated child. Let’s talk about Chad.

The 1969 "moon landing" was faked. That Stanley Kubrick shot the whole thing on an old Hollywood soundstage.

All the kids were Ruby’s. The business partner doesn’t have any kids as far as I know.

Okay - so if the "business partner" isn't the father of Ruby's children then who is the father? And why does that father allow his children to be abused and neglected by this youtuber chick and her business partner?

Ruby and her husband are separated though I don’t know when that happened. He used to be a part of the vlog series so I’m assuming he shares the same beliefs she does, though probably not quite as severe? Not even sure about that. I think he issued a short statement, something like, it’s important that the kids are safe, but that’s it as far as I know.

"And why does that father allow his children to be abused and neglected by this youtuber chick and her business partner?"

Presumably, he's a straight man. To many straight men, their own children are somebody else's problem.

911 call from the neighbor the kids ran to after they escaped.

This reminds me of the crazy lesbians who starved and restrained their kids. The Harts. Two escaped to neighbors and pleaded for food. The evil moms freaked out and took off in their SUV, eventually driving over a cliff. Datalounge had many threads on this sordid affair.

These kids are lucky to have now escaped.

They really need to regulate these YouTubers using kids like they do with Hollywood kids. I dare say home video channels are worse than putting your kid in Hollywood because at least if you were a good parent, your kid had a chance at being normal. Not with these vloggers though, where they are on video constantly as themselves. I feel the same about channels that exploit their elderly relatives. One guy makes a killing on videos of his dad that has dementia. Just constantly with cameras in their face, waiting for something cute to occur. I feel bad for kids and others living with someone doing that to them. Not a single private moment.

At first I thought this said Bethenny Frankel.

Alas.

I agree that family v loggers are across the board awful. There are even pet v loggers. This one guy has a golden retriever who genuinely looks terrified of him.

Wow! This is a lot to unpack. She’s deranged and just ruined her oldest son’s life.

Utah is the Florida of the West. They're all NUTS out there!

R88 Well, I guess it couldn’t be about the older son - it says the child was a minor, probably the younger boy. I’ll believe when I get proof, though.

The older kid looks 15

I follow one family vlog. After reading multiple stories and following links I found that the father of said family is the oldest of five kids. All five kids (30-40 year olds) have YouTube/Instagram, etc channels. Only the two oldest sons have kids (total of 9). All five travel everywhere and probably get discounted hotels/trips/meals in exchange for mentions in their vlogs. These siblings were born in Northern Virginia and now live in......the Salt Lake City area. I dare say the vast majority of these vlog families are Mormons from the SLC area. They also seem to know each family socially. I say this because I saw that someone in a forum about the this family asked if they still "hangout" with the Frankes.

That 911 call made me tear up.

There’s an audio of the entire call somewhere on TikTok. The guy was really shook up. More so than in the clip above.

Jodi, the therapist, is a big ol'dyke.

[quote] As God as my witness

Oh dear.

Fuck, sickening. People like her can never be rehabilitated, and I hope she goes straight to prison, and never be allowed around kids again. Sick ass woman. WTF, is wrong with people.

[quote]Franke — who appeared via video from a Utah jail — reportedly also claimed that the troubled child began looking at pornography at 3 years old.

Not that I believe her, but if your 3-year-old is looking at porn, isn't it your job as the parent to make them stop?

He’s the devil’s child! I did what I could!

[quote] Franke — who appeared via video from a Utah jail — reportedly also claimed that the troubled child began looking at pornography at 3 years old

Over his father’s shoulder.

"claimed that the troubled child began looking at pornography at 3 years old."

A 3-year-old can't read or write, and how can an illiterate log onto the internet or use a search engine?

No, if a kid that young was supposedly looking at porn, then either an older sibling blamed the sprat for their own porn search, or someone in that family was deliberately showing porn to a toddler. Like, maybe the father, or the boy who's been accused of sexually abusing a younger sibling.

Has parenting always been so bad on a widespread level, or is there just more reporting on it now?

There's just more reporting, R102.

I grew up in a home that should have had CPS swooping in, but in those days CPS was hands-off with white suburban middle-class families. They're probably still hands-off, with anyone who can afford good lawyers.

Personally r102, I think what we’re seeing is that pubic awareness campaigns have worked. PSA’s can indeed alter the culture.

I do not believe that 50 years ago, or even 20 years ago, that that many neighbors would have reported her, much less gone to the media to send the kids words of hope and encouragement. I just can’t imagine this happening not too long ago, particularly in a Mormon city.

I bet the real scandal will be how long the cops sat on this case, and what torture the kids experienced that could have ended 12 months ago. Each day the cops stalled was another day of actual torture. If the kids were smart, they should hire an attorney and sue the shit out of the city for failure to perform their duties, those kids likely have a case. And the money would go into trusts that they are going to need because their mother will probably get more charges too.

What’s the dad’s story? I mean, he left those defenseless kids with a monster? How could he abandon them tj her, knowing what she was capable of? Seems like neither parent is capable.

Take all the kids away, deprogram them and place them in a loving, secular, household who already have a kid.

What does the PSA possess?

Rule of thumb: The more picture-perfect a family is on the outside, the more there is to unpack. Life isn't their carefully curated feed. How horrible it must be to grow up and your life is practically a reality TV show - just that the cameras never ever leave and you have no parents. Imagine you cry or are happy and your mother films it and puts it online.

R04, the change isn't just because of the PSA's, it's because every teacher, pediatrician, nurse, and day care worker was legally made a "mandated reporter". They can all face professional discipline or legal consequences, if they see evidence of child abuse and don't report it.

Of course the CPS budgets weren't increased to allow them to investigate every report, so abuse still goes uninvestigated. But child abuse is no longer regarded as nobody's business because of these laws.

Wtf is wrong with people. People should be given classes before they are allowed to have or see children.

What a sick fuck.

What white people look like vs. how white people behave.

Child abuse happens everywhere. Don’t know why you brought the family’s skin color into it.

After 2 children are born using someone's DNA that parent or donor should be sterilized to prevent overpopulation and to encourage genetic diversity.

R112 yes, anyone can have kids. It’s a very sad world. No wonder everyone is so FUCKED up and angry.

There are so many issues here. The trial will be a circus. I am dying to see the police interrogation videos.

Ruby Franke is crazy but her therapist and business partner Jodi Hildebrandt is a flat out sociopath. Both were raised/are Mormon, which spews another level of sickness onto their brains.

The disgusting thing is Jodi has received minimal censure in the past because she is RICH - Enormously wealthy from partnering with the LDS church for over a decade as a therapist they officially refer congregants to. Already her lawyers are moving to have her released from jail due to an undisclosed medical issue.

I am horrifically fascinated by this case. Unfortunately for me.

I hate mormons. Literally hate them. They are so creepy and weird they should be banned.

Lawyer discusses case with two former Mormons:

[quote]R115 I hate mormons. Literally hate them. They are so creepy and weird they should be banned.

I’ve never met one, but every time I read about them and their rigid doctrine I feel sick.

Plus, Mormons played a big part in protesting Marriage Equality [italic] (Hollingsworth v. Perry) [/italic] so fuck them, regardless.

Let’s discuss Chad please.

Chad might testify at the trial as Jodi Hildebrandt was his counselor. She had him sent off to a reform camp in the wilderness. This brutal approach was so pleasing to Ruby that she signed up for her couples counseling course. Maybe she hoped Jodi would send her husband Kevin away, too?

From there Ruby and Jodi became completely enmeshed.

[quote]R75 It isn't clear which child's PARENT was arrested.

The mother, Ruby Franke.

But this latest child abuse (being starved and bound with duct tape) happened on a business partner’s property… and perhaps with her help. So that sick fuck, Jodi Hildebrandt, was arrested, too.

At this point in my life, I cannot stand any religious sect anymore. They’re all terrible.

The father should be arrested too. He didn’t know his kids were starving? Some dad…

Starts @ 3:00 p.m.

(This is my favorite legal commentator)

[quote]R122 The father should be arrested too. He didn’t know his kids were starving? Some dad…

Yes, the dad’s a (Mormon) piece of shit who psychologically abused his kids on the show, himself. It will be interesting to see what the two adult kids say about him when and if they testify.

But we should also keep in mind that Jodi is a master at driving a wedge between married couples under her care, and villainizing the husbands legally. Later on Jodi basically moved in with Ruby and Kevin, then at some point Kevin left (or was driven out.) It’s not an excuse - but there’s probably a bigger scenario playing out.

This guy is the husband that got Jodi’s license suspended after she targeted him:

So Jodi’s a closet lez, yes? She sure sounds like one.

Her niece (who was tortured and duct taped by Jodi years ago) always assumed the woman was a frustrated, closeted lez.

But Jodi is 1.) a loud and proud homophobe, and 2.) Mormon. So if she’s ever indeed had any same sex contact, she’s buried the trail.

The attachment to Ruby is… eyebrow raising, though.

The niece shares her 6 months of torture by Jodi, who was counseling her

I smell U-Haul.

[quote] I smell U-Haul

Pulling a Subaru.

Blasting Brandi Carlile.

parenting shouldn't be that hard. if you just act normal and functional yourself the kid will instinctually mirror your behavior, you won't even need to do much in the way of discipline i bet.

But where’s the power rush in that r131?

Her sister looks and acts like a raging narcissist too.

The sister has no tears, just faux outrage. She says "I" over and over, it's all about her. The neighbor in the 911 call had more emotion. Narcissism is an epidemic in some families.

New Detail:

The wounds the children got from being tied up with rope were then filled with a paste of cayenne pepper and honey.

I am not a fan of these women.

Cayenne pepper and honey? These people are sick

Disgusting. And these people were posing as the “perfect family” on YouTube or something? People are more fake than ever. Social media and YouTube seem to be Heaven for pathological liars

Hubs filed for divorce

CNN — Ruby Franke, a mother and popular web personality who pleaded guilty last year to four counts of aggravated child abuse, was sentenced to four consecutive sentences of one to 15 years in a Utah prison Tuesday.

20/20 did a pretty good special on this case recently.

Sick twisted evil bitches.

I watched that on Hulu the other day, r139. The prosecutor and a couple of the cops got choked up while talking about the abuse.

[bold]"I will NOT feed a demon!"[/bold]

That 20/20 report was heartbreaking. I would not give the father custody. I hope the kids find a permanent home where they can stay together. I hope those crazy bitches get the maximum.

Given that the oldest daughter said that they were alerting CPS and police for years, no way dad didn't know and/or participated in the abuse. Surprised he escaped charges.

I saw two pics of the boy that showed his physical state. He was grossly underweight and he had a wound on his leg that was pretty much down to the bone. And this was not a small wound at that. The cops said they could smell it before they even removed the duck tape. The little girl was found in a closet with her head shaved. It took an officer 4 hours to convince her she was safe to leave the closet.

These women are sick evil fucks.

He supposedly was banned from the house because he was watching porn during the time of the abuse. He seemed like he was lying when being interrogated and he stood up for his wife. He had to ask what emaciated meant.

He also said that when Jodi was around supernatural things would happen. Like a dish would go flying across the room or there would be strange noises. The guy is either completely faking being a dumbass so he won’t be charged as an accomplice or he really is an idiot.

I grew up in a pretty trashy Mormon family and all of my cousins are more upper class and more devout and they're all f****** crazy. There's nothing good about the Mormon religion..

R145 I was shocked to see a fucking grown up ask what emaciated means. I guess that's the Mormon education right there. Fuck him and fuck that bitch Jodi too. Oh, and Ruby of course.

I watched the 20/20 but don't get why Ruby was living with Jodi, latent lesbian? She certainly broke up many marriages. That fucking jail tape of Ruby saying she wasn't naughty made me feel stabby. I hate the word naughty even when a fucking kid says it, a grown up doing it is nauseating.

R128 R129 R130 with a "who rescued who?" sticker in the shape of a dog print.

R98 You have to keep in mind that "porn" to these people is not the same as we think. It could have been a jc penney lingerie section, seriously. And as far as the husband and his "porn addiction", someone said if you looked at porn one time, you were labeled as having a porn problem. So Jodi is a marraige counselor and these people do what she tells them. So she finds a chick she wants to fuck out of the married couples, and then decides the husband has a porn addiction or some other thing where she then makes the husband move out. After that, the women are single and she can move in on them. The arrest video of Ruby is fucking weird. She just stood silent, slowly blinking, like she was brainwashed or drugged or something.