Saltburn: is new Barry Keoghan/Jacob Elordi movie queer?

Is Jacob Elordi a good actor? Or is he just big and handsome?

The latter and that in no way diminishes my opinion of him

Saltburn is an upcoming drama film written, directed and produced by Emerald Fennell. Set in the mid-2000s, it follows a young college student (Barry Keoghan) who becomes infatuated with his aristocratic schoolmate (Jacob Elordi) and his wealthy but eccentric family. The cast also includes Rosamund Pike, Richard E. Grant, Alison Oliver, Archie Madekwe and Carey Mulligan.

Saltburn will open the 67th BFI London Film Festival on October 4, 2023. It is scheduled to be released in limited theatrical release on November 24, 2023, before expanding wide on December 1, 2023, by Amazon Studios and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.

Premise:

Oliver Quick (Barry Keoghan) develops an infatuation with the charismatic Felix Catton (Jacob Elordi), who invites him to meet his aristocratic but eccentric family over the summer.

Look at the size difference

Didn't like her previous movie and have a feeling I won't like this either. The way Fennell was almost coronated in Hollywood when PYW came out was so over the top.

Clip without the pan and scan

It gay as hell

Stopped reading at “queer.”

Elordi playing someone charismatic and presumably having to put on an English accent at the same time certainly sounds like its going to be a stretch of his acting abilities for what I've seen of him before.

I thought Australians can do English easily

[quote] Look at the size difference

Next time you post those words, R4, there better be some dickpics in the accompanying link!

It’s not called “dudebros-at-a-basketball-game verificatia”!

Let me guess...Keoghan plays ANOTHER short bus rider and what-his-face plays ANOTHER Jock who grunts?

Enh...I'll hate watch it.

[quote] there better be some dickpics in the accompanying link!

I'm not R4, but Elordi has dick pics out.

He went nude a few times on-screen.

Jacob has a nice ass, too.

I don't know what they did to Barry Keoghan in op's trailer and at R6, but he usually looks goofy as hell.

I've always found him not conventionally attractive, but he has a very compelling personality.

However, in the trailer for this movie, he looks downright HOT!

Archie Madekwe is the epitome of a Yassss Kween. One of the most annoying people on the planet and a horrendous actor.

[quote] I don't know what they did to Barry Keoghan in op's trailer

They put sunglasses on him.

The Asiatic eyes and Irish nose are a jarring combo.

[quote] Keoghan plays Oliver Quick, an outsider at Oxford who’s drawn to a handsome member of the wealthy elite, Elordi’s Felix Catton. Felix invites him to his family’s estate, where Oliver meets a twisted group of characters who say and do things to make you squirm.

Does the plot sound like a less Catholic guilt ridden version of Brideshead revisited to anyone else?

R17 Yes. And also sounds a bit like Alan Hollinghurst’s The Line of Beaty…which was made into a meh BBC miniseries with a then-Dewey Dan Stevens. Or a gay update on Rob Lowe’s Class.

"Infatuated" makes it sound like the attraction is one way.

I'm not sure Jacob Elordi can do a convincing English accent. I'm sure it'll all be snooty stereotypes and will be lauded because it's Emerald Fennell.

Oh this gay as hell

Definitely inspired by Brideshead

Both shirtless on the posters

Smoking is cool again (who wants to live to 90?) and Jacob Elordi is a horrendous actor with a nice ass and bad hygiene.

Sounds like Brideshead, Line of Beauty, a bit of Mr Ripley.

[quote] Jacob Elordi is a horrendous actor with a nice ass and bad hygiene.

I think you're the first person here who has ever mentioned that Jacob has bad hygiene.

Why did you say that, and do you know him personally?

I find it interesting, especially since he's so popular in Hollywood, and he gets lots of acting jobs.

R24 look at his greasy mop

Remember the last film with a ratface talented scrawny it-boy and a miscast wooden himbo?

I'm not sure if I'm buying the whole "I'm young and innocent and taken by this rich guy" act from Barry Keoghan.

Especially knowing that he's 31 years old. He's a bit old to be playing the wide-eyed, naive young man. Particularly, when acting against 26 year old Elordi.

And as R4 pointed out, the height differences are weird. Jacob is 6'5 and Archie is 6'4. Barry is only 5'8.

I get that Barry is the new "IT" boy, but this is a bit of a stretch.

Is Barry downz or FAS?

It looks wanky. A load of pretentious actors dicking about in a National Trust property.

So arty!

Yes I think this looks like it’s trying to subvert CMBYN and Brideshead. The casting of Barry Keoghan stands out like a Maguffin.

[quote] Is Barry downz or FAS?

Close.

He's Irish.

What is this Sofia Coppola knockoff garbage?

The Talented Mr Ripley itself is subversive of the “idyllic queerness” pastiche of Brideshead.

I thought the novel of CMBYN was also subversive (I interpreted Elio as crazy) but the adaptation played it very straightforward.

[quote] Is Barry downz or FAS?

I think Spectrum, but there’s another thread for that.

[quote] Keoghan was born on 18 October 1992, and grew up in Summerhill, Dublin, Ireland.[5] His mother struggled with drug addiction throughout her adult life and died when he was 12.

r28 FAS would be closest? I guess

It has a Brideshead Revisisted meets The Talented Mr. Ripley with a dash of Maurice.

I think Maurice is the best comparison here, except that the two main characters are from different class levels, and not the same class.

Well, not Scudder.

I like the use of Bloc Party’s The Pioneers in the trailer. I think it’s M83’s cover of it, but I like the original, too.

[quote]I think Maurice is the best comparison here, except that the two main characters are from different class levels, and not the same class.

In addition to Maurice, there is definitely a fish-out-of-water element to that trailer - like Brideshead - as well as a slightly sinister, thriller feel to it - like Ripley. You get the feeling Keoghan's character is jealous and wants this lifestyle for himself.

At this stage, I'd also throw in the early Dan Stevens movie The Line of Beauty.

I have a gut feeling that Keoghan will top Elordi in this. Very Lina Wertmueller.

Bottoming clip at 1:21? Nothing more British than biting the pillow

I’m in

I know we should all be tired of seeing Rosamund Pike typecast as an icy sociopath, but she's so damn good at it.

R7 is so sensitive

[quote]I know we should all be tired of seeing Rosamund Pike typecast as an icy sociopath, but she's so damn good at it

She was an excellent Jane in the Keira Knightley Pride and Prejudice.

Jacob = gay.

Archie = gay.

Barry = straight.

Brought to you by the deeply untalented director of Promising Young Woman and co-creator of, erm, Bad Cinderella.

Jacob Elordi is perfection. It’s just criminal for him not to be bisexual.

[quote]Jacob Elordi is perfection. It’s just criminal for him not to be bisexual.

He's proven himself to be a douchnozzle of the highest order.

Yeah, he's hot. But, when he speaks, he's insufferable.

R40 UGH, what happened to Bloc Party? That first record is BEYOND. I saw them in concert and they were sooo good.

R48 Jacob-Straight

R22, I will bring butt wipes and an douche!

Just ask yourselves - in what world would Jacob Elordi be OBSESSED with...Barry Keoghan?

r1 No. He is just big. Not handsome and not talented. Average sized penis.

Reviews are not good

At all

[quote]considering what Ollie does with Felix’s scummy bathwater

Well now I'm curious

[quote]considering what Ollie does with Felix’s scummy bathwater

I'm praying we finally have a good example of the old DL canard, "I'd drink his bathwater."

So Brideshead Revisited, Revisited.

Well Indiewire answers it for us

[quote]There’s only so much ambiguity to the scene in which Oliver slurps down Felix’s leftover bath water (one of many silly-serious gestures in a movie that also finds Oliver dry-humping a burial plot and painting someone’s face with their own menstrual blood in the moonlight)

Reminds me of that unnecessary part of the CMBYN book where they watch each other shit to get closer to each other.

Sounds like something a straight man would think gay men do

[quote]Sounds like something a straight man would think gay men do

Except, of course, for the fact that people on DL have literally been saying "I'd drink his bathwater" about hot guys for as long as I've been here...and I've been here since before the original Dialing the Phone with a Pencil and Sows at the Trough.

Do you mean gay, OP?

Both guys look special ed, but I guess women are into that these days.

Unless the 2 leads have any kissing and/or sex scenes I'm not interested.

r65 I was talking about what r63 said and the straight man I was referring to was Andre Aciman, which should've been obvious since my post came immediately after that one

Another review points out that Oliver drinks the bath water after Felix masturbates in it.

r65 "I'd drink his/her bathwater" is a reasonably common statement to say someone's hot in a lot of places not just on DL. Following through on it though...

Those reviews make the film sound as awful as I expected it to be.

[quote]Another review points out that Oliver drinks the bath water after Felix masturbates in it.

This film better not awaken a new kink in me

I would love to have Jacob Elordi on top of me, banging away.

I've never watched Euphoria, but is character supposed to be gay bi?

It looks like the girl he had sex with, went through his phone and found dick pics.

To R33.. I love the 1st line of your comment, "The Talented Mr. Ripley itself is subversive of the "Idyllic queerness" pastiche of Brideshead". It is one of the best comments I have read here on DL. We watched "TTMR" last night, and everyone kept saying, "You are Tom Ripley without the murders", my ex-mother-in-law was like "Well, except for Trevor on the boat in Lake Michigan that summer." I told Trevor the boat was turning, 10 minutes after he fell overboard in a drunken stupor. They fished Trevor out, he was fine. He drove off a road in the Rockies 10 yrs. later (dead drunk of course). Rich People Problems.

This, from the Variety review, is particularly worrying:

[quote]The movie’s stylized enough to forgive certain contrivances, but that doesn’t excuse Fennell’s preposterous disregard for psychology. As in “Promising Young Woman,” she’s more focused on orchestrating shock attacks on the ruling class (there, it was the patriarchy, while here, it’s the aristocracy, guilty of being blithely oblivious) and can’t be bothered with plausible human behavior.

Sounds like the same shit as PYW.

Oh, great. A female Ryan Murphy.

The literal translation of the first part of Brideshead is “I too was in Arcadia.” This is the oldest trope in queer fiction, achieving a paradise on Earth in this beautiful location where your queerness is hidden from the world. Even Red White and Royal Blue did it.

Also, it has sourpuss Carey Mulligan in it. Does this film have anything going for it?

From the LA Times - the bathwater thing just sounds worse and worse

[quote]Oliver might well freak you out, whether he’s tonguing a semen-slicked bathtub drain

Good lord Keoghan must really want an Oscar.

Elvis coincidence:

At the BFI will also be shown "The Bikeriders," with Austin Butler. (Telluride reviews up now.)

Both Jacob and Austin have recently portrayed Elvis, Elordi's movie "Priscilla" to premiere in Venice next week.

Also how much does Elordis character jizz? Because the reviews are making it sound like there was just a Nacreous Layers of perma-Cum floating across the water that he'd left for the housekeeper or passing Irish men to clean.

Is Jacob Elordi a YASS KWEEN, too?

R84 I like that shirt he's wearing.

He’s modeling

They put silly clothes on him and he gets paid

It’s really not hard to conceive

[quote]It’s really not hard to conceive

Exactly. Alan Ritchson is probably wishing these old modeling pix would go away.

Google Jacob Elordi and Tommy Dorman (images)

Jacob is a fag!

[quote] Google Jacob Elordi and Tommy Dorman (images)

Yes, but his handlers have conveniently made that little chapter of Jacob's life, "disappear."

Tommy Dorman is a woman now so technically Jacob would still be straight.

I think it's Tommy DorFman, not Dorman.

[quote]Tommy Dorman is a woman now so technically Jacob would still be straight.

Probably not gay.

But he has ADHD or Aspergers.

That actually explains a lot.

Boy does he have it

R70 You're kidding? That's hilarious. I can hear the conversation..

Keoghan--Oy, are you serious? No one would do that, brother.

Elordi--??? Grunt, grunt, Oscar? ok.

Director--No see. He's OBSESSED with him. To the point of psychosis. He NEEDS to taste him any way he can. It's metaphorical

Keoghan-Okay...brother. Okay. (inner monologue: OSCAR)

I've seen a couple of critics say that scenes like that, the humping the grave scene, etc, will actually ensure he doesn't get a nomination, because the voters are pretty conservative when it comes to stuff like that.

Mind you, Chalamet got nominated for fucking a peach.

[quote] Saltburn is juicy stuff, a revenge thriller that’s often wickedly funny and wildly enjoyable.

I still want to see this, mainly for Rosamund Pike.

Actually it does not surprise me that the movie ended up the way it did

Spectrum actors a) do what they’re told, and b) do not due subtlety, which tends to give them a certain fearlessness onscreen

Would also explain the chemistry.

This sounds fucking stupid.

I'd forgotten about the grave humping amidst bath-watergate.

As vomit inducing as licking a cum encrusted drain is, we've all scene pron that has done that or worse that isn't even fetish pron.

[quote] we've all scene pron that has done that or worse that isn't even fetish pron.

I only got through half the trailer before thinking it was going to be a Brideshead for stupid people and turned it off.

I can't believe Barry Keoghan, who was just nominated for an Oscar, would lick cum out of bath drain. I mean, that's really something only Divine would do and, as great as Divine was, it also gives a performer a kind of notoriety that may be unwanted in Keoghan's case.

I mean, couldn't he just sniff his underwear? That would've got the point across without revolting the audience.

^^Shut up, Angela!

I’m more gagged by underwear sniffing than licking cum.

[quote] Chris Martin wants to become Roger Federer’s underpants in another life

Chris Martin is a singer, songwriter, and lead vocalist of the well-known band named Coldplay. Recently in a podcast with the DJ Jo Wiley, the band members shared some interesting conversations on the podcast. As the interview progressed, Wiley started to ask captivating questions. Chiefly, one such question she asked was about what would they become in another life.

The rest of the members of the band gave normal questions like an owl, splendid fairywren, and himself. However, Chris Martin was thinking out of the box. From nowhere, he said he wants to come back as ‘Roger Federer’s underpants’. The reply created a lot of buzz on the podcast itself.

Well, Martin must be joking as no one would want to get in the pants of Roger Federer, or would he?

Think you want the tennis thread

r108 No. No. Let him continue. I can use this underwear obsession in my next movie.

I'm surprised she didn't show him sniffing Carey Mulligan's underwear and licking out her vaginal secretions after she hangs herself.

Emerald Chervil is also behind Killing Eve. I tried so hard with that show, but it was too precious by half.

[quote]and licking out her vaginal secretions

Nah, he just smears them on her face instead

[quote] Oh, great. A female Ryan Murphy.

That’s brilliant, r77!

Once he's discovered her hanged, he should check her drawers, realise she's shat herself and then rub her face in it.

Oh, and then hump a nearby ottoman.

This is like a cross between Brideshead and The Human Centipede. Amirite?

Ryan Murphy’s Brideshead Revisited.

[quote] I can't believe Barry Keoghan, who was just nominated for an Oscar, would lick cum out of bath drain.

Paul Mescal licks the cum off Andrew Scott’s chest in All of Us Strangers.

It’s a big year for Irish actors who may be on the Spectrum eating fake cum onscreen in prestige movies.

So he dared, r96?

R117, Sounds more like a ritual act of humiliation in order to BE in "prestige" movies.

David Rooney’s review in THR is terribly written. It’s a laundry list of funny lines, like he’s been watching an episode of Ab Fab and wants everyone to know he got all the jokes.

This is what it looks like inside Luca Guadagnino’s head right now

Feel the burn.

The SALTBURN!

Agreed, r119. Same as with JL in "No Hard Feelings."

Sadly the movie isn’t really queer at all. Saw it last night.

That said, DLs could get a kick out of this film because it centers around the sort of aloof madness of the upper class Brits. Especially a lunch scene.

Seeing this made me completely understand why all of the royals, including the former Queen, all wished to just be a nameless noble. The nobility that retained their wealthy live like royalty without any of the scrutiny. Looks fabulous.

Movies not gay, but will give a fantastic view of cock and ass.