Joe the Plumber is DEAD TO ME!

Did he have Obamacare?

[quote]Did he have Obamacare?

You know he took every so-called handout he could get because he deserved it, not like those other moochers.

Heard he was circling the drain.

He wasn’t a plumber.

Has anyone checked on Ken Bone lately?

At least it wasn't Josephine the Plumber!

One less ivermectin enthusiast!

[quote] One less ivermectin enthusiast!

Fewer!

John McCain is in heaven (or hell) trying to get Joe the hell away from him

Absolute, total, complete idiot.

[quote]In 2016, Wurzelbacher voted for Republican nominee Donald Trump, who won the election. [bold]“He’s a winner. He’s made billions. He’s dated beautiful women. His wife is a model. That’s not to sniff at. And a lot of people believe he can bring that kind of success to the White House,”[/bold] Wurzelbacher said in an interview with Reuters in 2016.

[quote] In June 2012, Wurzelbacher's election campaign released a video in which he claimed that the implementation of gun control resulted in Europe's Jews being unable to defend themselves during the Holocaust, explaining that "In 1939, Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, six million Jews and seven million others unable to defend themselves were exterminated."

[quote] In the same video, Wurzelbacher stated that the implementation of gun control by the Ottoman Empire in 1911 resulted in Armenians being unable to defend themselves against the Armenian genocide.

[quote] Wurzelbacher subsequently defended the video, stating that "Different countries around the world have tried to disarm their citizens, and then have tried to exterminate their own now-unarmed citizens. If people are looking to be offended by this video, they are probably serving a political agenda. Unfortunately there are a lot of whiners out there." Wurzelbacher's spokesman, Phil Christofanelli, also defended the video, stating that Wurzelbacher was a "student of history" who knows that the Founding Fathers "understood that the 2nd Amendment was always the people's last defense against tyrannical government."

[quote] In August 2012, Wurzelbacher drew criticism for a comment he made about illegal immigration. During a campaign rally for Arizona State Senator Lori Klein, Wurzelbacher said, "For years I've said, you know, put a damn fence on the border, going to Mexico and start shooting."

[quote] When asked about the comment later, he said that he didn't care about being "politically incorrect." Klein defended Wurzelbacher, telling reporters his comments were just a joke.

[quote] In an open letter to the parents of victims who died in the 2014 Isla Vista killings, Wurzelbacher wrote of his right to "protect my family" stating, "As harsh as this sounds—your dead kids don't trump my Constitutional rights ... We still have the Right to Bear Arms ... Any feelings you have toward my rights being taken away from me, lose those."

[quote] In 2023, Wurzelbacher was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He died on August 27, 2023, aged 49.

Good fucking riddance to him!!

You guys are awful. Pancreatic cancer is so horrendous . I don’t like the guy, but I’m Not going to celebrate his horrible death

Even though he was a MAGAT, I was feeling sorry for him until that Elliot Rodger's victims gun control comment. Sorry to your children but go to hell, Joe!

R13, you get what you give.

Fuck that MAGAt POS.

R13. There are malignancies, and then there are malignancies.

One less vote for Trump.

[quote]No one is suggesting that Joe was stupid or dimwitted or in any way mentally challenged. It wasn't his native intelligence that troubled us. Rather, what made Joe so damned infuriating was his annoying combination of abysmal ignorance and near suffocating arrogance. While practically every word out of his mouth was factually inaccurate or unsupportable, he uttered them with the supreme confidence of a Nobel Laureate.

[quote]For example, while portraying himself as a "small businessman," he complained that if Obama were elected, his proposed tax plan would almost certainly ruin him, even though the most cursory inspection of Obama's proposal revealed that the plan would help Joe and everyone else who earned less than $250,000 annually. At the time, Joe was making less than $40,000 a year and had a $1,182 lien against him for failure to pay back taxes.

[quote]Also, Joe fudged the truth a bit by presenting himself as a journeyman plumber. Maybe it was the result of McCain's people pressuring him to present himself as such, or maybe he simply got swept away by the moment, but in truth, Joe didn't possess a journeyman's card (he never passed the certification test). His actual job title was "plumber's assistant." Not to put too fine a point on it, but the difference between a journeyman plumber and a "plumber's assistant" is profound. It is analogous to the difference between an auto mechanic capable of overhauling an engine and one capable of changing the spark plugs and oil.

"Annoying combination of abysmal ignorance and near suffocating arrogance." He was ahead of his time in the GOP.

[quote] One less ivermectin enthusiast!

[quote] One less vote for Trump.

Fewer!

Well the important thing is is that he had the freedom to die at 49!

I forgot about that guy. Was it fentanyl?

How was he only 49?

[quote] How was he only 49?

He became an asshole at a very young age.

Na na na na, hey hey, goodbye Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye.

I’m glad he’s dead. Lying piece of shit.

Wow, pancreatic is a tough way to go. Glad his suffering is over (and ours).

A major moron, a loser who road the loser train to Loserville.

[quote] who road

He was a moron, but there are others including here.

R13 always brings a warm casserole to the grieving relatives of right-wing pieces of shit who spew hatred and violence.

Bless you R13.

[quote]"I don't owe him shit," Sam Wurzelbacher – his real name – told a public radio reporter after addressing a small political meeting in Pennsylvania when asked about Mr McCain. "He really screwed up my life, is how I look at it."Mr Wurzelbacher was thrust into the headlines worldwide just a few weeks before the elections when Mr McCain made repeated reference to him during one of the televised presidential debates. The two men had met days before and Mr Wurzelbacher had voiced fears about likely tax increases if Barack Obama were to become president. The unexpected notoriety caused instant problems, with reports the next day that he practised plumbing without a licence. And towards Mr McCain, Mr Wurzelbacher clearly feels no gratitude. "McCain was trying to use me," he told Scott Detrow, the reporter. "I happened to be the face of middle Americans. It was a ploy."

My late Father did so much for Joe, and got nothing in return except sassy backtalk and baseless slander! Why did God take my Father first and not Joe????

Cancer? Is that the new spelling for fetanyl?

I just can't feel much empathy for these people. They are so hateful and harmful. Truly despicable. If that makes me a bad person so be it. I was never this way until Trump and Maga. Never have I had so much hatred in me.

I am proud to have empathy for them, and pity them. It proves my values are better than theirs, and that they have no power over me. I will never stop so low as to revel in someone's slow physical agony.

R33- I dont revel, I just can't feel much empathy. Not the empathy I feel for others in the same situation. It isn't something I am comfortable with but it isn't something I can change.

[quote]Pancreatic cancer is so horrendous

Not this time! Good work, PC. I hope this asshole’s drug-addicted hospice nurse stole his pain meds, too.

Weak wittle R35 became just as evil as the people who were evil to them and thinks it feels good.

Wow — that really hurt my feelings, R36. I thought you were an empath.

The last thing you're in touch with is your feelings, weaksauce.

[quote]His actual job title was "plumber's assistant."

You mean like one of these?

[quote] You guys are awful. Pancreatic cancer is so horrendous . I don’t like the guy, but I’m Not going to celebrate his horrible death

I am surprised by his age. He was a 33 year old bald wannabe plumber in 2008? If anyone manifested pancreatic cancer because of the corrosive hate and ignorance he put into the world, it was good ole Joe. He rode that Tea Party/Anti-Obama train till the wheels fell off. Rest in pieces, Joe.

R36- These people are destroying our country. For eight agonizing years they have put us through ungodly hell and it isn't over. They refused to wear masks or get vaccinated in the middle of a global pandemic. They are fine with watching children get shot to pieces at schools. They enjoy inflicting pain and misery on us. We wouldn't be human if we didn't have anger and resentment towards them. They are destroying us, our freedom. Yet you believe we shouldn't have animosity towards them? Feel relief when there is one less fascist in the world? We are at war. You don't cuddle with the enemy.

Please stop, R33/R36/R38… I can’t endure your relentless attacks against me. I have stage 4 fibro which is very painful and debilitating, and it absolves me of the insensitive comments I made about Joe the Plumber. How dare you revel in my suffering!

Are there any shades of grey in your word, R41? Being humane and cuddling are two very distinct things. Can you fucking modulate, or do things need to be this simple for you? How does this make you better than them, let alone solve matters?

R43- It's real simple for me. They are pure evil. It's us or them and I guarantee you they do not have one drop of sympathy for us. They aren't capable of empathy.

R44. You may not get what you're doing here to make things worse for yourself here, but others do. In my eyes you're no better than they are and make it harder for all of us.

R45- I really don't care what you think. You are underestimating how dangerous these people are and what they are capable of.

There are very fine people on both sides.

R47- Right, 😆. Except their side is determined to install a psychopathic dictator and destroy our democracy.

R45, I'm really glad your approach will disallow you from running anything, ever in the Democratic politics/policy, let alone elsewhere. Only Republicans seem to let people through who have grudges so strong their humanity has left the building.

R45- Do you have sympathy for Trump?

R45 - Of course not, and of course you went there because most of what I am saying doesn't compute within your limited system of thinking.

Sorry, that was for R50.

[quote]How was he only 49?

That was my first thought as well. I thought he was 49+ in 2008.

R51- Oh come now. You really aren't that deep, dear. You are just being judgemental and sanctimonious. Tiresome, but not complicated or advanced.

He had pancreatic cancer.

Even if the original Obamacare had been enacted he still would've died.

Even Steve Jobs couldn't escape Pancreatic Cancer. That shit is deadly unless it's diagnosed, like, super super super early before symptoms even present. It's one of those where, if you have symptoms, it's already too late.

But, yeah, fuck that guy. A shithead tool for regression and bigotry and he went along with it to make money.

What was the poster who mentioned fentanyl talking about? Did I miss something?

R54, never made those claims, and I never used ad hominems with you. You're not pleading your case well, especially that don't care part.

I have no need to plead my case. You are either for democracy or you are for fascism. There is no in-between.

What did I say? Liars *do* get cancer.

R30 So,he bitched about McCain ruining his life as well Was the whole world against Joe? Why did everyone trample on his God-given talents?

1. [quote]I have no need to plead my case. [/quote] But you are Blanche.

2. Anyone who knows the history of fascism knows your approach perpetuates it, doesn't defeat it. This is why Germany and Japan weren't burned to the ground. and subjugated. You will never, ever be able to rid yourself of everyone you don't like and need to figure out pragmatic ways to accept that, which is the fucking point of anti-fascism.

So tired of you absolutist assholes. Life's not the simple, and you're not helping.

R61- You are delusional if you actually believe that. There is no compromising with fascists. They are set on destroying everything in their path. Does Putin seem like a compromising person with a conscience to you? They don't gaf about honor, integrity, people. They are violent racists who destroy anyone who gets in their way. They enjoy violence. The magaTs are foaming at the mouth for a civil war. Wake up and face reality. They want to rule over everyone. These people thrive on violence and destruction. Have you ever read any history on Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini?

Steve Jobs had an insulinoma, a rare and rather benign type of pancreas cancer, which has a 94% five year survival. But Steve Jobs turned down surgery and elected to follow some new age macrobiotic diet for nine months before realizing it didn't work. The point is Steve Jobs might very well still be among us if he had not jump right into the rabbit hole of macrobiotic food faddism.

I don't know much about Joe the Plumber but couldn't pancreatic cancer be a long term side effect of high dose ivermectin and we're going to see the dead MAGA bodies pile up as time goes by? Don't give me hope!

Did he smoke? That causes pancreatic cancer. That is how Michael Landon died, I believe. Wow, I didn't know that about Steve Jobs.

Wait what, smoking causes pancreatic cancer?

Smoking certainly increases the risk of having it.

Thanks for posting that information R63. Steve Jobs committed food is medicine, medicine is bad suicide. A healthy diet is necessary, but not sufficient, when it come to treating cancer.

R62 - You don't give a flying fuck about defeating fascism sustainably. You just give a fuck about defeating it by any means necessary. The Germans were just as destructive and just as violent. You sounds like you're mistaking punditry and activism — which are important and have their place — for expertise in how to [bold]sustainably[/bold] defeat fascism. Do you think it's a fucking accident that fascism started creeping back into society pretty much as soon as the generation who defeated last time died off? It is damned important Trump and his ilk are defeated, but you seem unwilling to accept that being inhumane isn't going to work here. We have history to prove it, not the name-calling that you resort to.

R65, - Yes, it does. David Bowie smoked, Michael Landon smoked and before he died he begged his friend to quit. He didn't and he died of pancreatic cancer as well.

Victor French was the name of his friend. He played Mr. Edwards on Little House. He and Michael Landon were very close friends.

R67- What do you suggest? Have TED talks with them? You do not have the slightest clue about who i am and what I feel, you condescending little fuck-twat. You go sing Kumbia with the heartless, violent fascists while they mock you for your effort. You are starting to sound unhinged.

lol. Still going way over your head, but you sure are masterful with the hateful pejoratives. My work is done here. Good luck with that you problem.

R71- Ta! It's been tiresome.

a very dim bulb who threw around words like 'socialism' and 'communism' in bizarre context. 30 seconds spent with the guy and it's clear he was a clueless blowhard who made angry politics his religion. adios, MF'er.

[quote]Did he have Obamacare?

He was apparently insured through the VA, but he solicited donations through a GoFundMe alternative that's popular with religious zealots and Republican loons. Reading between the lines of the original fundraising appeal and subsequent updates, the family was on shaky financial ground despite his family values/personal responsibility posturing.

So he essentially relied on socialised medicine

I don't wish ill on anyone.

But he sure was a poster child for deep and profound stupidity, for parroting whatever dumb shit Fox, Breitbart, et al sends into the universe blaming everyone else in the world for one's woes.

It's sad for whoever loved him. But also, someone somewhere was working a final grift, because that GFM is over 100K, and VA hospitals don't charge much, if anything....so there's that.

One of the fatal flaws of liberal policies is that they raise living standards enough that people begin to fantasise that they are standing on their own two feet. The material comfort that social security, Medicare, Obamacare, VA hospitals, etc provide allow people to form fantasies that they are rugged individualists who would flourish in life were it not for government interference.

Damn, WTF is your damage OP? I get a little snark, but the man's dead. Did he steal your drag or something? Why so nasty and venomous over the guy's death?

Who is she?

Who WAS she?

Who did she hope to be?

I always assumed he was a drunk or on hillbilly heroin. I’m surprised cancer took him.

[quote] Are there any shades of grey in your word, [R41]? Being humane and cuddling are two very distinct things. Can you fucking modulate, or do things need to be this simple for you? How does this make you better than them, let alone solve matters?

We don't have a personal connection to him. I only knew him as Joe the Plumber, a reactionary liar who sought fame and fortune from his ignorance and belligerence, and failed effort to demean a GOOD man who wanted to do good things for everyone. I am sure someone somewhere will miss him. I save my humanity for those who deserve it.

[quote]You know he took every so-called handout he could get because he deserved it, not like those other moochers.

AKA Blacks and Latinos. Those benefits are only for good, Godly white Christians, don't you know.

I contributed to his GoFuckMe.

R78. Joe’s behaviour wasn’t so dainty when people got mowers down by guns. At least his prostate cancer had the courtesy to wait until he was in middle age before it took him out.

[quote]I am sorry you lost your child. I myself have a son and daughter and the one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through now. But, as harsh as this sounds -- your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights.

The man did have a way with words.

R78, to paraphrase the man himself: One thing I never want to go through is pancreatic cancer. But, as harsh as this sounds - good riddance to bad rubbish.

"your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights."

So there is a constitutional right for someone to be an unmitigated asshole like this guy?

Is this right in one of the amendments?

And from Ohio, too. I'm surprised the NYT didn't make him an op-ed columnist. They love listening to ignorant yahoos from Ohio bloviating on about their institutionalized racism, homophobia and xenophobia.

There are tens of millions of shitstains out there just like this dogturd-with-legs was. We just have to reconcile ourselves to that.

Unfortunately r88 that is true. Roughly 50% of Americans are stupid, uneducated, ignorant mouth-breathing pieces of shit. We just have to try our best to avoid them.

Joe the Plumber is dead. Good.

[quote]"your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights."

For this quote alone, he deserved every bit of pain he felt from pancreatic cancer. And then some.

"Joe the Plumber" is the perfect distillation of a Republican: His name wasn't "Joe", he wasn't a "Plumber", he got famous for being rude to a Democrat and lying, he rode that lie to nationwide fame, if not fortune, and died young because he doesn't believe in healthcare.

Fuck him. Fuck anyone who defends or worships him. I wish no less on every single Trump voter and Obama/Biden basher in this country. The world would be better without any of them.

Good. Thin out the herd of deplorable people.

[quote]"your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights."

He may not have been a plumber, but he was definitely a POS. Good riddance. I'll save my sympathy for those who deserve it, such as the parents of "dead kids."

Hell needed another demon.

From the comments at Deadline......tee hee

[quote] Damn. Now we’ll never know what this intellectual giant thought of Barbie and Oppenheimer.

Asshole. He was a Trumper before Trump.

How sod.

You see you hoes provide the funniest political commentary. I love you bitches.

Any day a MAGAt croaks is a good day.