Old shit on TV

On Pluto - I Love Lucy, 227, Maude, Cheers, Password+

Love Boat-- I watched them all during the quarantine and started a thread about it here.

Alfred Hitchcock Hour

Gunsmoke

Columbo

I still like 227 and New Adventures of Old Christine

McMillan & Wife on Saturdays via Cozi Tv. Wonder Woman on H&I. I find both shows very comforting to watch.

Perry Mason and Alfred Hitchcock are always good. I've been watching All in the Family on Amazon and I'm surprised how little has changed since then. Still arguing over the same shit.

I sporadically watch episodes of Gerry Anderson shows like Space:1999, Thunderbirds, Fireball XL5, Stingray, Supercar, etc.

And then there’s Maude!

I fall asleep with The Golden Girld

Watching Remington Steele on Prime.

Love Boat episodes are fun, I get all excited during the credits to see who the guest stars will be--JOAN VAN ARK! CHARO! RICHARD DEAN ANDERSON!

Each one more cheezy than the next. But sometimes the plots can be a real slog.

[quote]a ridiculous episode of the Love Boat

redundant

Alfred Hitchcock Presents still holds up - very good show. Same for The Twilight Zone.

For camp I watch The Love Boat, Fantasy Island, and Police Woman

Just finished "The Untouchables," a legitimately great show. Had to order DVDs because it's still "controversial."

Before that it was all of "Perry Mason."

My go tos are "The Rifleman" and "Married With Children."

I'm enjoying old Family Feud episodes with Richard Dawson. He seems so genuinely pleasant and sweet to the contestants. The hairstyles and dress of the contestants is a joy to behold. I forgot how unpretentious and simple some of these game shows were.

R9’s Golden Girdle was Blanche’s Only Fans

77 Sunset Strip and Hawaiian Eye

The Doris Day Show has everything I need. The Que Sera Sera theme song, Doris's flashy 70s wardrobe. her gingerly hopping of a cable car in the opening credits .etc. etc. Watching it, brings me back to a happy time in my childhood.

Between Twilight Zone and 'The Kent McCord Show', I'm happy.

Lately, while working from home I've started watching 'The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis' in the background. I was surprised to see Tuesday Weld and Warren Beatty on the show.

I watch The Donna Reed Show in the mornings. A classic that holds up. Donna wasn't too saccharine or fake.

I don’t care too much for old and shitty. However, if you have some young and shitty things you want me to watch, let me give you the address to my glass coffee table!

I watched "Ozzie's Girls." It was pretty dire, but Ozzie was fit and trim in his polyester Dad pants and had a fine ass, which the cameraman frequently showcased in the early episodes.

I was too young to watch The Naked City and Peter Gunn when they were on originally, or even when they were in repeat. I saw them both recently for the first time. I can't get over how good a lot of the Naked City episodes are, nor the wittiness of the dialogue between Peter Gunn and Edie Hart, not to mention the blatant suggestion that they are sleeping together unmarried.

The Golden Girls - Disney+

Charlie’s Angels - Amazon

*especially season 4 with Shelley Hack as Tiffany Welles!

r25, Naked City was the Law & Order of its day, utilizing a myriad of NYC theater actors.

Adam-12

Rawhide

Alf

Who’s The Boss

I WAS watching Charlie's Angels on Prime. I had made it as far as mid way through Season 3. Then Jeff Bezos decided to paywall it. I'm already paying you $14/month bitch and NOW you want me to pay more for an old 70s show??? Fuck off.

Seasons 4-5 (but not 1-3) are available on the Roku Channel

[quote]The Golden Girls

Now there's a show we've never heard of! Tell us more!

Will never tire of watching episodes of "Betwitched."

When I had a tv, I liked to watch reruns of "Frazier" and on Saturday nights 11 on Cozi..."Buck Rogers in the 25th Century"

My God! Those tight trousers on Gil Gerard!!!

Love the intro....

^^^^"Bewitched" Must be the Aunt Clara in me!!

R33 As a gayling, I had the total hots for Gil Gerard as Buck Rogers.

Don’t you bitches enjoy 80s Charlie’s Angels? Season 4 (Shelley Havk 1979-1980, Season 5 Tanya Roberts 1980-1981)???

R32 you’re rather missing the point of the thread but you do you.

I've fallen into a rabbit hole of watching To Tell The Truth on youtube.

My favorite year are the color Garry Moore years from 69-77 but I like and watch all episodes dating back to 1956. Also, love the theme song from the Garry Moore years.

Recently watched episodes with Maria Von Trapp, an unknown Orville Redenbacher promoting his "new" kind of popcorn and the guy who invented the waterbed.

The Naked City really holds up, and it's fun to see Dustin Hoffman, Christopher Walken, Gene Hackman, etc. in early roles

MSW just ended. Holland Taylor (great as always) done it.

The Facts of Life as we speak on Logo

Password

What's My Line

R42, Bea's partner was cute. Taking art classes at UCLA in his spare time? Wonder if he was family!

MSW?

The old game shows like Password, To Tell the Truth, and What's My Line are fun

The Andy Griffith Show. I swear to God it lowers my blood pressure better than lisinopril.

But I only watch the seasons with Don Knotts as Barney Fife.

New to DL, r45?

No, r48. Been here for years. I just can't place what that means.

[quote]I just can't place what that means.

You're no Jessica Fletcher, r49.

Murder She Wrote

OK. Yeah. You can't expect everyone to recognize that just by "MSW"

Surprised no one's mentioned the Wild Wild West, which introduced many elder gays to their penis.

Aww...Mama's Family...they're in Hawaii. Mama's shopping in...Lahaina.

Upstairs Downstairs (1971 to 1975) on Britbox ( Amazon)

I've been watching Route 66 episodes on MeTV+.

Have long known Martin Milner from Adam 12, but he's even more beautiful here.

But I was unfamiliar with the exquisite George Maharis until discovering Route 66. He's lusciously. Delectable.

"Route 66," like "The Naked City" and other "prestige" dramas were far more prevalent back then. Now, even though we have more channels and outlets, everything seems aimed at the lowest common denominator.

[quote]everything seems aimed at the lowest common denominator.

Especially on CBS (NCIS, FBI, CSI).

Anyone who asks for "old shit" deserves hell with the Texaco Star Theater on with Uncle Milty's dirty boxers stuffed into his mouth.

Jessica Fucker

We watch Full House in our 🏡

Route 66 and The Fugitive both presented an America that’s long gone…small that looked different from each other, farming ranches, orchards, small, inherited family owned businesses. I remember one episode where a woman who had been running a family farmstead/orchard was fighting to save it from her evil stepson who wanted to sell the land. The stepson dies and woman says, “I’m gonna stay. I’m keeping it the way it is. And I’m going to share it with my Mexican immigrant workers who my evil stepson humiliated and tried to kill.”

And I thought, “Honey, that’s a Walmart on a superhighway now.”

Prestige dramas are still around, they're just on streaming or cable.

I’m a very sick man. I have a bad chronic illness. My life did a 180 a couple of yrs ago. On days when I feel like throwing in the towel, watching classic TV is like applying a soothing balm to my troubled mind, if only for a little while.

[quote]Old shit on TV

Well wipe it off, you big slob!

I used to watch Family until they took it off.

I just watched Miss Ruta Lee dancing the hula in a sparkly grass skirt on Hawaiian Eye.

Columbo

The Rockford Files

Quincy

[quote]I've fallen into a rabbit hole of watching To Tell The Truth on youtube. My favorite year are the color Garry Moore years from 69-77 but I like and watch all episodes dating back to 1956. Also, love the theme song from the Garry Moore years.

I love the ones with the GROOVY psychedelic set, trying to entice the young 'uns into taking an interest in Kitty Carlisle and Bill Cullen.

Back in the days of Napster I found the original single of the theme song — yes, there was one. "It's a lie, lie, you'll never know why ... "

CHIPS! The first 5 seasons at least.

Keeping Up Appearances. Always fun to watch.

Beaver in the morning.

For nostalgia I sometimes watch old shows like the old B&W Forsyte Saga (despite the use of gray face powder to convey age), Upstairs Downstairs and I, Claudius. Today’s audiences would never accept the bare bones sets and stilted theatrical acting, but we were used to bare boned sets in theaters and theatrical acting, so it was no big deal. I tried to rewatch Elizabeth R (Glenda Jackson) and Six Wives of Henry VIIl, but they were even too bare boned for me I saw a horrible reboot of Open All Hours that made me want to throw something at the tv.

Dark Shadows

The British series The Grand (1997-98) which is streaming on Pluto

Emergency! with the delectable Randolph Mantooth.

^ Still delectable!

R13 where do you watch Fantasy Island? I love Fantasy Island. They used to have Fantasy Island but they discontinued the show. Please tell me they brought it back. What channel?

r68 I like Quincy and some Rockford Files too. I do not like the female actress who played (for a time) Jim Rockford's female lawyer girlfriend. She appeared on other tv series during the 70s.

I only watch old shit OP. Hate the new shit.

Pluto TV airs the “I Love Lucy” series on a 24 x 7 loop.

Is Mama's Family any good? It looks silly like Married With Children but I don't care as long as it's funny. Do we see Betty and Rue a lot?

R47, I agree There's just something pleasant about the show. And I kinda have the hots for Andy...always loved a man in uniform.

For laughs, there's "The Beverly Hillbillies."

When I was a kid, there used to be reruns of "Mission Impossible" on Saturday afternoons. I think they were on Channel 5 (WNEW) in the New York area. This was in the 70s.

"Meet Cathy who's lived most everywhere..."

r82 Rue is only in the first two seasons (the ones that were on NBC.) The show was revamped in syndication and introduced two great characters: Bubba and Iola. The syndicated seasons are much better than the network ones. Betty was mostly in the NBC seasons, but showed up in one episode of the third season. She was never a regular even on the NBC seasons.

FETV is adding "Quincy" beginning next week.

R78, used to watch it on my roku but it looks like it's not available anymore. Damn.

Thanks R85.

I liked that Patty Duke wasn’t beautiful (like Natalie Wood), or conventionally pretty (like Sandra Dee), or cute-as-a-button (like Sally Field in Gidget). She looked like a common, middle class (though the Lanes were upper middle class) Irish American teenaged girl. I so wanted to be her when I got to be a teen. She ran for class president, she was secretary of student clubs, she went to house parties and school dances, she raised funds for the football team and children’s charities. She wore different clothes in almost every scene (setting the tone for the future tv series Friends). I don’t mean she wore different clothes as Patty than the clothes she wore as Cathy. I mean she worked different clothes in almost every scene as Patty. She had a boyfriend she could count on for a date, but she swooned and chased guys like Sal Mineo (in vain, alas) and Chad & Jeremy.

I was sorely disappointed in high school, especially as my parents sent me to a newly built catholic high school, so I had to wear the same clothes every day and there were no student clubs or dances. I still yearn to be Patty Lane.

Thank you, r89. That’s the kind of story I love to encounter on DL.

Byeee.

Legend TV in the UK are showing The Six Million Dollar Man Mondays to Fridays. Takes me right back to my childhood…

Between Lee Majors chest rug and Nick Tate’s shag pile on Space: 1999 when I was growing up, its no wonder I’m a gayboy…

Anything with Dawn Lyn in it is good with me!

How *is* Dawn Lyn doing?

I'm watching right now...Naomi has amnesia.

Well, my stars, Quincy looks downright intriguing tonight...

Murder is suspected when a magician's protege drowns during an escape trick. Harry Whitehead: Don Ameche. Quincy: Jack Klugman. Velma Whitehead: Ann Blyth. Maggie: Jo Ann Pflug. Monahan: Garry...

*SPOILER ALERT*

Ann done it.

She used poisoned Hostess Twinkies.

Ruth Buzzi as a ventriloquist, OP I love you.

When I was a little gay boy, nothing, I mean NOTHING got me as excited as the announcement of the guest stars on LOVE BOAT each week. Well except the theme song to DYNASTY.

R97, “Freshness never tasted so good”.

Classic TV is pre-1970. I barely go out of the 60s.

R59 Go to bed, pa-pa

PlutoTV--The Parkers, Sanford and Son, Newsradio, Becker, Just Shoot Me, Rules of Engagement, Peepshow

I watch Sanford & Son, Designing Women, I Love Lucy, Star Trek, The Jefferson’s, The Love Boat, 227 on Pluto

Mama’s Family and The Facts of Life on Logo

Wonder Woman on H&I.

I just saw an episode of The Addams Family which contained this lovely, racy exchange (pardon if the spacing doesn't work). They are trying to solve Cousin Itt's problem du jour:

Morticia (thinking, then) : Voila!

Gomez: Tish, you spoke French! (Starts kissing her arm).

Morticia: Darling, let me tell you my idea.

Gomez (still kissing): Let ME tell you mine.

R103 that really got your rocks off

I'm watching Diana Paradise on H&I. Miss Dreamgirl 1942.

I'm watching Alfred Hitchcock Presents on Freevee

Which episode, r106?

I think it's titled The Children of Aldo Nuevo...with Jack Carson and a bunch of children who look like the young 'uns in Suddenly Last Summer.

I was watching Designing Women, and there was a scene with just Dixie Carter, Meshach, Jan Hooks, and Alice Ghostley--no Annie Potts or Julia Duffy--and I was just like…WOW...they’re ALL gone. We didn’t have cable growing up because my father was a cheapass, so I watched shows where most of the cast were long dead. DW is the first modern sitcom that I watched for its entire run and remember the actors dying.

Yay me…

I've been watching Matlock on Pluto. He wasn't a very good lawyer in terms of procedure. Any good judge would have shut him down immediately 90% of the time.

Ohhh, this Columbo episode. I never remember it when there's a Columbo thread.

S6 E2

*Old Fashioned Murder*

[quote]A museum curator kills her brother, who was trying to close their institution. Peter Falk. Ruth: Joyce Van Patten. Phyllis: Celeste Holm. Janie: Jeannie Berlin. Edward: Tim O'Connor. Shaeffer:..A museum curator kills her brother, who was trying to close their institution. Peter Falk. Ruth: Joyce Van Patten. Phyllis: Celeste Holm. Janie: Jeannie Berlin. Edward: Tim O'Connor. Shaeffer:..

R111 But you remember it now, yes?

Lynda Day George is credited at the beginning, but Barbara Anderson (as Mimi) is in the episode, not Casey.

^ Shatner's in it.

My guilty afternoon pleasure, "The Secret Storm."

Joan Crawford didn't turn up for years!

Matchless.

There were a couple of legal series I used to like: THE DEFENDERS, with EG Marshall and Robert Reed, and THE BOLD ONES, with Burl Ives, Joseph Campanella and James Farentino. Would love to see these somewhere -

Naked City, the precursor to Law & Order. New York never looked more New York-ish.

Was it really the precursor to Law & Order? The thing I loved most about The Naked City, which remains brilliant on its best day, is that it was always far more interested in the "criminal" than the cops. I put criminal in quotes because many of them were oddballs who ended up getting counselling or referred to services by the cops instead of being arrested. (Almost none of them got shot by the cops, either!) The vast majority of the show was always with them. It wasn't a procedural at all.

It is obvious looking back at it that its writers were very gripped by the new focus on psychology, so it was all about what motivated the folks on the wrong side of the law. Sometimes it's a bit facile with that, other times really interesting.

And you're right, it loved every aspect of New York (that 50s/60s TV could go into).

Another thumbs up for Naked City. Great writing, solid acting, and never knew this show existed until MeTV. Also thanks to them I have developed a huge love of Batman and Land of The Giants, and their vintage cartoons rock.

Mission Impossible is also a master class in being to ascribe visual details to specific years - and the shifts in style over those seven seasons were both plentiful and nuanced.

Give me sophisticated, cigarette-smoking Cinnamon over sullen hippie chick Dana any day!

OP, just wait until you become an older man. You will appreciate the “old shit”

Once I started this, I ended up watching the whole thing. She's/it's wonderful...

Barbara Eden reflects on her classic TV series "How To Marry A Millionaire?" - documentary interview

Tonight on My Three Sons:

S10 E11

Rough On Dodie

[quote]Dodie feels uncertain among boisterous brothers and a cantankerous uncle. Chip: Stanley Livingston. Ernie: Barry Livingston. Uncle Charley: William Demarest. Larry: Ricky Allen.

Colombo

I can't believe that I now find weeknightly back-to-back MeTV reruns of "The Beverly Hillbillies" and "Green Acres" as my comfort-zone-go-to shows to watch. I remember there being a time when they seemed so stupid to me but, in comparison with all the dreck that's come to be shown on TV and with all the crap going on in the news/our world in the years since, now I find them to be a kind of soothing and fun escape for an hour on weeknights. The actors were actually pretty funny, and the writing especially sharp and fun on "Acres." Love my Eva Gabor. :)

[quote]Colombo

A TV series about the capital of Sri Lanka? Who knew?

I wish they'd put ' Lost in Space on.'

I binge 5 episodes of The New Adventures of Old Christine every Sunday morning on tvland.. Never fails to deliver huge laughs , even on repeat viewings . One of Julia Louis’ best roles. And the entire cast is wonderful:

I want Bionic Woman reruns. Bring Jamie Somers back to us, ASAP!

When was the last time you thought about...Ronne Troup?

"L&O"---The Original, Seasons 1-->Lennie's retirement.

"Wagon Train"---Only the episodes with Michael Burns (who became a history professor).

"The Wild, Wild West"---Currently only the episodes with Michael Dunne (Dr. Miguelito Loveless).

Edie Hart blows Cricket Blake out of the water.

Not only that, Edie Hart almost certainly blows Peter Gunn.

[quote]I wish they'd put ' Lost in Space on.'

Lost in Space airs weeknights at 3 a.m. (EST) on MeTV+. It's followed by Space 1999.

R18, Please tell us what televisuon channels those two shows are on. YouTube doesn't count.

r136 - Weeknights on MeTV+... 77 Sunset Strip - 6-7:00 pm and Hawaiian Eye 7-8:00 pm

Thank you for the reply, r137. Most mouth-watering! 😉😊😇

But I don't have ME TV +; only ME TV. 😔

Channel 52….cones on right after the LA Thunderbirds roller derby

METV+ is only in these markets:

*1973 🫨

Until recently, my nightly comfort TV was old (from the early 2000s) episodes of Antiques Roadshow UK. The hair! The teeth! The clothes! The accents! And some nice antiques! I don't know if the Roku Channel lost the rights, but they're now requiring a paid subscription to AMC+ or BritBox (and from what I can tell neither has nearly as many episodes or seasons as the Roku Channel did). I'm hoping Roku gets it back someday because even though it was my go-to I'm not paying for it.

On right now...great cast.

Old shit on DL

^ That episode has Linda Watkins in it. She played the ditzy Gracie on Hazel and apparently she had a very long film career and was quite a versatile actress.

This morning...Case of the Foot-Loose Doll. Ruta's a brunette!

227 is on Pluto TV right now

This is Mary Jenkins!

I treat Brend-a like shit

Anyone know where I can watch The Fugitive?

Tonight on 77 Sunset Strip...

Miss Jo Van Fleet in a BLACK wig

That’s Academy Award winner Jo Van Fleet to you!

Perry Mason. Only the early ones.

Joan Van Ark!

Joyce Van Patten!

Bewitched any time and every time

These old TV studs have me all hot and bothered. Show me some of that good old vintage cock.

R156, Here’s Andrew Prine.

The Fugitive — Sunday nights (Monday morning) MeTV 2am

Thanks r158. Just set my DVR.

I love watching old tv shows and seeing the styles. 1950s/60s Sitcoms had “classic traditional” furniture. Fireplaces, armchairs. Then there were “cozy” interiors, with all that early American furniture. I Love Lucy’s “farmhouse chic” with a loft made me want so badly to marry a Cuban entertainer so i could have a farm in Connecticut.

The Brady Bunch had a “modern” house with that staircase and the orange kitchen. Bob Newhart Shiw (the first one, in chicago) — the characters are wearing clothes that match colors of the room they were in. That was a huge lust for me …everybody neatly dressed and coiffed, stylish and matching the wallpaper. If only real life could be like that.

The Fugitive often had that “homey” early American/1950s farmhouse decor, with those oval, branded rugs and a wooden rocking chair.

R143, In a very limited market. See r140.

None. NADA.

77 Sunset Strip has your Mr. Joseph Cotten and Nick (Johnny Yuma...was a rebel) Adams guest-starring.

My comment is not on the actual stuff but the quality of it. MEtv runs/has run hi-def versions Andy Griffith, Perry Mason, Leave it to Beaver, Gomer Pyle and Twilight Zone. Start tv runs refreshed Murder She Wrote eps. These are not quite hi-def but are a vast improvement over those that were run on Cozy tv. Revived shows such as Roseann and Third Rock have been scaled up from their aspect ratio to the present letterbox format. This results in John Goodman's head being cut off. I think the same thing happened to Highway Patrol, which has a lot of closeups of Broderick Crawford. This could be useful if you have children who need to be punished. I think it must greed that precludes old shows from being upgraded.

I wasn't aware that Beaver lived in Peyton Place. The first episode this morning had Ryan O'Neal and the second one has Barbara Parkins.

Watching Friends on TBS right now.

Also watch I Love Lucy, Family Affair, That Girl, The Brady Bunch, Gidget, Bewitched, Leave it to Beaver, Bachelor Father, Dr Quinn Medicine Woman, The Waltons, The Dick Van Dyke Show, and more I can't remember right now.

RON: 3 of his 4 children are messed up. The only one that turned out okay was reared by Leigh Taylor Young. Ryan's likely to be a handful. Barbara's immortalized herself by being Beaver's "babysitter" and surviving Helen Lawson and Nearly O'Hara's scenery chewing.

All In The Family

Dragnet

Perry Mason

Currently bed ridden with the flu and binge watching Andy Griffith show and the Munsters.

Who gets the flu in September?

[quote]Currently bed ridden

Are you wearing a bed jacket, r169?

R170. I know, right? I was surprised as well. Funny thing is I had flu shot scheduled for next week.

Whenever I watch Maude or AITF or Sanford and Son, I'm shocked by what they got away with 50+ years ago.

I love Lucy.

Plus I just like to watch old commercials.

Where do they show old commercials?

There's quite a few compilations on Youtube, r175.

R176 Thanks. I know that, I guess I misunderstood the post. I thought they were on TV.

I love the Munsters

I love Lucy channel is free on Pluto tv app

The Big Valley

It’s funny but I didn’t love many of these shows when they originally aired. Like most kids I watched them because they were on. Some were great, but many (like the plethora of westerns without a lot of action, and the endless choices of detective shows), though well done, were really kind of unexciting.

When these shows were on there was one more hour of broadcast (primetime) than there is now. The FCC decommissioned it so affiliate channels could develop local programming. I think this was in 1971. This only worked that way with the Westinghouse Group of channels for something called Evening Magazine. The freeing up of the hour proved to be a bonanza for the syndication market. Chunks of old shows have cut out to sell more ad time. Credits are run in a little window for the same reason. Lately I've noticed there is no longer a fade to black between program and ad. Just a quick and immediate cut.

r182 - yep

r182 Prime time used to begin at 7:30 p.m. In 1971, the FCC decreed that it would begin at 8 p.m., thus giving local channels an extra 30 minutes for evening programming. Not an extra hour.

This gave rise to number of nighttime versions of game shows that were syndicated all over the nation-- -- Name That Tune, Price is Right and later Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune.

The name of the Westinghouse Group's syndicated news magazine was PM Magazine.

R184, 7:00 PM on Sundays.

Yes I remember when I was about 10 years old, he Flying Nun aired at 7:30 pm on the network.

F Troop is filled with some of the most attractive dudes ever, who is the big tall dude that was a cavalry guy, he was smoking hot, looked a bit like a fit Stephen fry? Also the dark haired guy has a beautiful face

^^^ Forrest Tucker (tuck it in his sock kinda man) and Ken Barry HOT!!!!!!!

You on drugs

^^ Just to see him walk is poetry in motion ok I’m clicking off the thread haha

^^^ VPL be still my heart

He used to call himself Torrid Fucker.

Tonight on Have Gun - Will Travel...

Miss June Lockhart as...Phyllis Thackeray, MD

[quote]What kind of classic tv (old shit) do you still watch? I’m watching a ridiculous episode of the Love Boat on MeTV right now. Ruth Buzzi is a ventriloquist.

Miss Buzzi and Mr. Richard Crenna were the guests on this mornings "Carol Burnett Show" on Catchy Comedy.

Finished binge-watching all four seasons of 'The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis'. Sheila Kuehl was great in this. Story lines became repetitive. In season four we began seeing BLACK PEOPLE as background extras!!

Do it like me! Recreate it all in The Sims 3 game, and live there among them all!

The Sydney Opera House has a free streaming service, and for the next month only, they're screening a 1977 show by Peter Allen recorded live in the Concert Hall. It's available worldwide, so if you want to see him at the top of his game, when I Go to Rio was a recent hit, google the SOH and go for it. It's been edited down to suit some network schedule of the day, but you've rarely seen a flame shine brighter.

[quote]but you've rarely seen a flame shine brighter.

Or be as flaming.

[quote]The Sydney Opera House has a free streaming service, and for the next month only, they're screening a 1977 show by Peter Allen recorded live in the Concert Hall. It's available worldwide, so if you want to see him at the top of his game, when I Go to Rio was a recent hit, google the SOH and go for it. It's been edited down to suit some network schedule of the day, but you've rarely seen a flame shine brighter.

Coincidentally, the episode of "The Carol Burnett Show" taped at the Sydney Opera House a month after it opened in 1973. Guests were Tim Conway and Edward Villella.

The Peter Allen video is not available in the United States.

Its only available in Australia from Oct. 7 to Nov. 7.

Below is the link for those DLers Down Under.

None. Been there, done that.

My apologies. All the other entries I've seen on there are worldwide so I assumed they all were. I see now that a tiny percentage is Oz-only.

No Wild, Wild West, Barnaby Jones or Medical Center?

Is the Wild Wild West still on tv anywhere?

I wonder why they never show Medical Center. I always watched that with its screaming intro.

I don't think I regularly watched anything that was "A Quinn Martin Production", as the announcer used to intone.

I was looking at an interview with Carroll O'Connor and Jean Stapleton when All In The Family was popular, and he was asked what he based his performance as Archie on and he said "Gleason." And somebody or something else. It was refreshing to hear an actor admit he based a characterization off another actor's work (who was still working at the time).

The sonny and Cher show is great

Just found out a "straight" guy at work loves love boat and barry manilow

Fun Fact, R195:: At age13, Sheila James, as she was billed on Dobie Gillis, had an uncredited part in 'Seven Brides for Seven Bothers' as Dorcas's (Julie Newmar) sister. Think she has a line or two, but I always seem to miss it.

Sheila graduated from Harvard law. Before entering politics, she was a law professor…and she was excellent in her use of the Socratic method—loved her classes.

R211, She was also good buddies with JFK, Jr.

I knew a girl who a friend of mine called Zelda because of her bangs and ponytail. The name stuck, everyone calls her Zelda to this day, even her family.

Hawaiian Eye...

[quote]The murder of a Hollywood star is blamed on Cricket Blake.

I have been rewatching The Practice - it holds up. I was watching it on Hulu but they dropped it at the end of Sept. Then I continued watching on Amazon Prime. They dropped it Oct 15. Damn. I was right in the middle of Season 4. The just finished the story with the homely podiatrist with the severed head in his bag…,

I tried watching The Odd Couple after not seeing it since I was a kid. God, it was sooooooo cringe. And their apartment was butt fucking ugly, even after the redecorating episode. And what the f cameo from a then unknown Penny Marshall still a dog even in her prime.

r216 By definition a "cameo" is an appearance by a well-known celebrity. And Penny had a recurring role as Oscar's assistant/secretary, Myrna Turner, so it wasn't a cameo in an sense.

And of course she got the job because her brother was an executive producer.

That’s n’an sense!

Thanks for that infor R217

Alfred Hitchcock presents is great. Golden Girls always. I had a date with a 30 year old and FRIENDS was on tv. I'm 45 and the realisation that I was around to watch first-run Friends made him back away. It was kind of annoying. He said he assumed I was 35 to 38.

R220 Naturally. No one on DL looks their age!

[quote]No one on DL looks their age!

I never have, r221. I always looked younger than my years and now I look older than them.

I had some old shit on my tv but I took some Ajax and scrubbed it off.

Watch 227

The Case of the Prudent Prosecutor

Ruta plays an ice skater

So she’s so famous we just call her Ruta?

You know of another Ruta, r226?

R227 Ruta Kilmonis

Kinda . . .

I do: Miss Ruta Bega,

This just began. Donna Mills is dead from barbiturates and they just told her drunk mother, played by screen legend Miss June Lockhart.

[quote] Donna Mills is dead from barbiturates and they just told her drunk mother, played by screen legend Miss June Lockhart.

Both of whom are still with us! June will turn 100 in 2025.

Notice how they only use "Quincy" in the caption in the newspaper? Supposedly we never found out what his first name was.

I’m watching “THE LUCY SHOW”

I saw all of these “Lucy” episodes when they first aired.

[quote] Both of whom are still with us! June will turn 100 in 2025.

You're optimistic.

r234=Lassie

Shouldn't that be *Lassies*, r235?

Tons of Marcus Welby MD on YouTube. The young Dr. is so hot. Generally a petty good show. I saw a few episodes of Dr. Kildare and ended up buying the series. Both are excellent.

r237=Barbra Streisand

Watching show biz legend Miss Joey Heatherton right now on L&S...

I'm obsessed with watching old '80s and early '90s episodes of Oprah, Donahue, Sally and Geraldo on Youtube. They're like crack to me! I don't understand why Oprah doesn't re-release all of her old episodes either on OWN or on her YT channel seeing as she owns the rights to all of them. I'd never leave my damn bed/couch if she'd make that happen.

[quote] wonder why they never show Medical Center. I always watched that with its screaming intro.

Medical shows get outdated pretty fast. I’m not just talking about the ridiculous lengths doctors go to to treat their patients - I saw exactly one episode of House and it was just as ridiculous as any Marcus Welby episode where James Brolin gets in a motorcycle chase to treat some wayward teen diabetic.

The times were different. A Dr could withhold information from a patient in these shows. “Whatever you do, don’t tell my wife she’s dying.”

Ben Casey was a sexist pig. He demanded nurses drop what they were doing and do exactly as he told them to do RIGHT NOW, NURSE! And the nurse would scurry, “Yes doctor, whatever you say doctor!” Nurses always wore white uniforms, white caps and high heels.

There were old fashioned treatments; get an oxygen tent! Put this patient in the isolation ward! Dr Kildare was very much about social issues of the day, like “let’s not treated retarded people like animals.” Or “we should operate on the son of a communist dictator, not let him die!” A mother believes her daughter who lost an eye will never be able to marry.

And people did things like smoking pipes, cigars and cigarettes in hospitals. It’s ok to see an occasional Twilight Zone with smoking patients and medical workers, but not in every episode of a medical series. And there are things like white actors playing non-white characters. Then there are stereotypical character - the old complaining Jewish mother, the innocent, childlike immigrant, the teenagers who must get married because the girl is pregnant.

I’ve watched a few Kildare and Ben Casey episodes and they were like lead balloons,

Has anyone ever seen the Mel Brooks series, "When Things Were Rotten"? I saw the opening credits somewhere the other day and had never heard of it. I've never heard anyone mention it on here, that's for sure. I love Dick Gautier. Was it any good?

No, r241, they did not.

^R241...that's regarding the high heels.

Both nurses are absolutely wearing 2” heels.

2" heels are not considered *high* heels, r245.

Ever work as a nurse?

[quote]the teenagers who must get married because the girl is pregnant

That might be a cliche, but to be fair, it was also incredibly common in those days.

I just tried watching LHOTP on Cozi. Too sentimental. Mrs Naugatuck was the guest star talking like she had shit in her mouth

It was common in those days but it’s outdated today. Like a lot of the 1960s doctor shows.

No, r247, but my mother was one. Old school. Starched cap and white stockings.

But R241 that is the fun of watching.

Fun Fact re. 'Quincy:' Candace Hilligoss, billed as Candace Coster (she was married to Nicolas Coster at the time), most famous for 'Carnival of Souls', was in season 6, Episode 8 (per IMDb) of 'Quincy.' The episode was 'Stain of Guilt' and the cast included Sid Haig, Val Bisoglio, Robert Ito, Ed Begley jr. and Carolyn Jones. FETV is currently showing season 5 and I think it's on another "old shit" channel. Probably streaming somewhere(s).

Luv her.

This made me gay.

So did Mike Henry and Dan Vadis.

I've been rewatching some of the early South Park episodes I hadn't seen since I was a kid in the 90s. They're so amazingly stupid yet funny. I miss the less political era of South Park.

Dead foetus or no

You never let go...

I wish I was dead

Love Boat and South Park

Why not combine the two, R259?

[quote] A mother believes her daughter who lost an eye will never be able to marry.

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of moms who would worry about that today.

[quote]the teenagers who must get married because the girl is pregnant

That still happens. Maybe not as much.

Just...

Perry Mason brought to you by...

Hogan's Heroes, Night Court, Wings, Family Ties, The Odd Couple, Designing Women, 227, The Jeffersons, the OG Frasier, Cheers...I'm a child of the 80's (and late 70's...).

Oh...this is on tonight.

"Land of the Giants"

First aired in the late 1960s. I remember it in syndication sometime in the 1970s, then in the mid to late 1980s on Nickelodeon, the MeTV.

The little people had a really hot cast of actors...

Gary Conway

Don Marshall

Don Matheson

Cheesy special effects...

on the beach EEK

R241, I haven't seen Kildare in years, but Ben Casey was an excellent show - tightly written, with compelling plots and often with a dark and surprisingly modern theme. The medicine itself (diagnosis, treatment and prognosis) was accurate for its time; in fact, it's interesting to see what has changed and what is still substantially the same. The overall health care world is not portrayed accurately, but TV medical shows never do so because they're not documentaries. They're telling a story.

Yes, people smoked in 1962, even in hospitals. Nurses wore uniforms and caps. It's unfortunate that you can't watch a TV show from more than half a century ago without imposing modern sensibilities, but that's your loss.

I wish Ben Casey had been remastered and made available for streaming. The DVDs I have are poor quality and incomplete.

Cannon Fat Detective on MeTV.

Good stories. Great guest stars. Love the location shoots of 'vintage' Los Angeles. not to mention the cars. And if you're lucky you get to see portly William Conrad run.

I like how other characters constantly called Cannon fat to his face.

R270 TV Land actually ran this promo when they had the show.

"portly"

That Cannon Diet promo is great. Thanks for posting it.

They could never get away with airing that today.

I'm hooked on old game shows on Buzzr TV, especially Match Game with CNR, Richard Dawson, and Brett Summers. Old Family Feud and Password are also fun. Watching a young Alex Trebek on Classic Concentration is a surprise - he comes across as a friendly person with an outgoing personality.

I like watching Password, I enjoy seeing the stars like Lucille Ball, Lauren Bacall, James Mason, Gene Kelly, etc.

The episode with Lucy, Gary, Little Lucie and little Desi is one I have watched 3 or 4 times. Desi who is about 11 is very smart! And natural. Lucie (daughter) mugs in an unhinged way, making faces. She later commented on how bad she was on the show, in this way. She’s also smart, though. Gar has a bad toupee.

*Gary

My fucking stomach is burning

So, r277?

I don’t “care” if you “care” or not!

Oh god I'm hooked on game shows too. I watch them on YouTube. They're all there. My favorite was on for one or two seasons. Wipeout. Wish it lasted longer.

I didn't know Courteney Cox did a Murder She Wrote...

On right now...

Are Ironside or Barnaby Jones to be found anywhere?

What about What's Happening Now?

All seven seasons of Petticoat Junction are on Amazon now, only three were released on DVD. It seems they've taken It's A Living off though.

Who reruns Matt Houston?

Barnaby Jones on Prime and Pluto

R283 Barnaby Jones is on in the middle of the night on MeTV. Check your guide for the correct time/timezone info. For Pacific Time, it's still on M-F at 4AM (following Mannix at 2AM and Cannon Fat Detective at 3AM) for a private dick arc.

I just became a cord cutter and don't have access to some of the standby Medicare/Mesothelioma channels, but there's a wealth of stuff on Freevee, Tubi, et al. Watching "Make Room for Daddy" (what a great gay movie title that would make!) right now.

[quote]"Make Room for Daddy" (what a great gay movie title that would make!)

"Make Room for Daddies" would be better.

R283 It appears you can stream all episodes of "Matt Houston" at this website called M4uHD.

I just watched portions of three episodes, one from each season, and there was no registration required and I didn't have to disable adblocker.

Here's a link to the Matt Houston page.

I would love to be able to stream Bachelor Father. That's the original show about nothing and it's really quite funny. Has more continuity issues than Golden Girls. One episode the girl is staying at a ski lodge contemplating a marriage proposal the next episode she's in an 8th grade talent show. For its time though it's a pretty funny show.

R289 Maybe not streaming, but Bachelor Father is on Antenna TV. Two episodes Monday thru Saturday. In Pacific Time Zone, it's at 5:00AM and 5:30AM.

[quote]My fucking stomach is burning

[quote]So, [R277]?—We care because...?

R277 is OP, r278. He also posted this and made fun of the person who recounted an exchange between Morticia and Gomez of The Addams Family, saying " it got your rocks off?"

OP is weird.

[quote]I’m a very sick man. I have a bad chronic illness. My life did a 180 a couple of yrs ago. On days when I feel like throwing in the towel, watching classic TV is like applying a soothing balm to my troubled mind, if only for a little while.

[quote]a ridiculous episode of the Love Boat

redundant

R289 My mom used to like that show - so did I but I was really young and hardly remember it (a lot of sitcoms used to be re-run on daytime network TV in those days - early to mid-'60s).

Jan just finished her tryout for pom-pom girl.

Catchy Comedy, nee Decades, is running a Brady Bunch marathon this weekend. I caught one of its most intense dramatic episodes, the one in which Greg is caught smoking, and a pack of cigs is found in his jacket pocket.

Midsomar Murders - (1997-present) arguably 'old shit' since it's still in production, in season 24, I think; but it felt a bit old even when it was fresh to the market

Northern Exposure - (1990-1995) aside from some unfortunate fashion looks, it holds up remarkably well

Dark Shadows - (1966-1971) I will binge watch another 20 episodes or so now and then when I have another project that isn't too demanding; and then I don't feel the urge again for another 9 months or a year.

The Wire; The Sopranos - (2002-2008; 1999-2007) A season at a time and then a long break before the next, but these are the best series ever on TV for my taste

R292 Oxymoron

Some episodes of Bachelor Father are on YouTube. Lord, John Forsythe was pretty.

R298, Pat Nixon was once asked which actor should play her husband if a movie was ever made of his life.

She responded, “John Forsythe. He looks so much like Dick”.

[quote]Northern Exposure - (1990-1995) aside from some unfortunate fashion looks, it holds up remarkably well

I've been watching "Doc Martin" on Acorn and trying to decide what it reminds me of--and the other day I realized that it has a lot of similarities with "Northern Exposure."

R299, Nixon was a nice-looking man, but nothing special. I don't think he particularly resembled John Forsythe, but they're not exactly opposite types, either, so such casting wouldn't be ridiculous.

They both had slicked-back black hair when young, that's about it.

[quote]Nixon was a nice-looking man'

There's a statement I never expected to read on DL.

[quote]They both had slicked-back black hair when young

Everybody had slicked-back black hair when they were young! Even if it wasn't black, it looked it by the time all the grease was through it.

Tonight on Columbo...

S6 E2

Old Fashioned Murder

A museum curator kills her brother, who was trying to close their institution. Peter Falk. Ruth: Joyce Van Patten. Phyllis: Celeste Holm. Janie: Jeannie Berlin. Edward: Tim O'Connor.

Today on The Love Boat - Miss Lana Turner *and* Menudo!

Were they performing together. R306? I would have loved to have seen that.

Lana liked the Latin types.

Actually, she liked all the types.

R301 That’d be like casting James Franciscus as Jimmy Carter.

...!

R310, JFK wanted Warren Beatty to play him in “PT 109”, but had to settle for Cliff Robertson.

I started watching "The Brady Bunch" from the beginning on Amazon Prime (it's free). But several of the episodes are missing - I wonder why. I didn't remember that the Brady boys had a different house in the first episode.

They gave Mike Brady's middle name at the wedding, but I've already forgotten it.

R312, which goes to show that no one should choose his own biopic's star. Cliff Robertson was infinitely better suited to the role of a hero and future president and presented a much more mature and favorable image than pretty-boy playboy Beatty would have. I happen to think Robertson was better looking, too, but I realize that will not be a universal opinion.

Cliff Robertson was a little old to play JFK in his 20s in during WWII. He was over 30. Maybe Kennedy was thinking Beatty was closer to the right age.

R315, hmmm, yes. Good point. Cliff Robertson was more mature-looking than Kennedy at the time of the film's events. I guess my point was that he more closely resembled a presidential image.

I want to watch The Brady Bunch with r313.

Watching right now...

I cut the cord so now instead of having one of the mesothelioma channels on in the background all day, I've been streaming episodes of long-running sitcoms of the past. Dick Van Dyke, Danny Thomas, Ozzie & Harriet, etc.

Are any of the old b&w military comedies like Sgt. Bilko and McHale’s Navy still on?

R319 you should get together with R286.

I’m guessing military comedies have less appeal to the average guy now that men are no longer drafted and people can’t relate.

The old Perry Mason episodes starring Raymond Burr, scripted by Erle Stanley Gardner, are generally exceptional. My guide shows episodes can be found on MeTV, fetv, and Sundance.

[quote]Are any of the old b&w military comedies like Sgt. Bilko and McHale’s Navy still on?

Sgt. Bilko is on Catchy Comedy, formerly Decades, weeknights at 2 a.m. Eastern time.

R320 McHale's Navy is on Antenna TV. I think it's two episodes weekday mornings.

r323 I don't think Erle Stanley Gardner wrote a single PM episode. And only a handful are based on one of his books.

Let's give a shout out to Gail Patrick Jackson, shall we?

R327, Carole Lombard’s bitchy sister in “My Man Godfrey”.

r328...

[quote]Patrick was so afraid of the camera that she made it a point to never see her films. In 1979, she screened a print of My Man Godfrey given to her by a friend, and she watched herself on screen for the first time. "My fright emerged as haughtiness and I can see where I got my image as a snob, a meanie," Patrick said.   "And it's the movie that typed me and the one I'm still asked about." She said director Gregory La Cava told her she should suck on lemons and beat up little children to prepare for the role of Cornelia Bullock. La Cava borrowed Patrick from Paramount again for his next film, Stage Door—"where I was never nastier".

I recently watched some of the Season One Perry Mason episodes. I was surprised a well-known movie lead, Barbara Hale, played Della, who at times had two or three lines, tops, in some episodes. Also I thought Ray Collins seemed ancient to be a police detective (he was over 65, for sure). Bill Hopper was never a very good actor, but I didn't notice that as much when I originally saw the show in reruns as a teenager.

R329 She was funny (if still somewhat nasty) as the new wife of Cary Grant in My Favorite Wife - with Irene Dunne as the original (still alive) wife who'd been shipwrecked on an island with Randolph Scott.

[quote]I was surprised a well-known movie lead, Barbara Hale

She was a B-movie actress, r330, and was doing a lot of TV in the '50s.

R332 She wasn't an A-lister but she played leads in some decent features: The Window, Jolson Sings Again, A Lion Is In The Streets (James Cagney), The Jackpot, (Jimmy Stewart).

The point I was making is that in some episodes she was there but didn't do a lot or had only a few lines. In one episode I'm pretty sure she had no lines, and just nodded or laughed. It seemed strange for a "name" actress, who got second billing on the show. Of course as the series went on she had more to do (sometimes).

Perry Mason opening credits:

My mother became friends with Raymond Burr when he was filming the Perry Mason movies in Denver. Once they drove up to see Red Rocks with Barbara Hale and Jean Simmons.

R333, She also gave us William Katt.

R326, it's ridiculously hard to find an answer online to the simple question, "how many Perry Mason TV episodes were based on Erle Stanley Gardner's novels?" I gave up looking, but here's a list of Perry Mason novels, and a lot of those titles look awfully familiar. I think quite a few of the TV episodes - perhaps more in the early seasons, logically - were based on the novels.

Sometimes you can tell when an episode was based on one of Gardner's early books because the plot details feel a bit dated for the TV show's time. For example, in the Case of the Hesitant Hostess (S1,E29, original air date April 5, 1958), there's an episode that centers around a taxi-dance hall. The entire story feels very 1930s but in particular that setting was funny. First, taxi-dancers and their places of work were all but gone by the late '50s. Second, they used ludicrously anachronistic stock footage to introduce the setting, with scenes obviously from the 1940s.

I like catching all the soon to be big starts in Perry Mason episodes.

old tv favourites from the uk/canada:

Lovejoy Keeping up Appearances Fawlty Towers SCTV Kids in the Hall Street Legal Prime Suspect Trailer park boys Codco Poirot

[quote]it's ridiculously hard to find an answer online to the simple question, "how many Perry Mason TV episodes were based on Erle Stanley Gardner's novels?"

Not really, r337, the answer is...*many*.

[quote]Many episodes are based on stories written by Gardner.

R330, Collins was well past the age where a real LAPD detective would have retired (voluntarily or not). It was not a brilliant piece of casting and yet, as with all the regulars, I cannot image the role with anyone else in it. There’s not one regular who isn’t a critical part of the team that made the show such an enduring delight.

Besides PM, I’ve only seen Bill Hopper in a couple of cheesy B&W sci-fi movies. I love movies like that, but they don’t exactly showcase an actor’s skill. (I’ve seen The Bad Seed, but I have no recollection of him in it.) Anyway, while he doesn’t show much of a range as Paul Drake, he makes the character believable, likeable and charming.

I would love to find a source to stream McCloud. I had such a huge crush on the character when I was going through puberty. He seemed like the perfect man, and pretty much still does. Dennis Weaver is not usually considered a hunk, but he had a tight, fit body and hairy chest, and he was quite handsome with or without the stache (although I prefer with). "There y'go!"

Anyway, the only place I've found McCloud is on Cozi TV, where they seem to show only one episode per week. The show is listed on Prime but is "not available in your area." I hate that. Why not, Amazon?

Yes, really, R340. I was looking for a precise answer and a total for the entire run of the series. If I wanted to count one-by-one, year-by-year, I could do so from imdb.

But, anyway, yes. The answer is "many".

[quote]The point I was making is that in some episodes she was there but didn't do a lot or had only a few lines. In one episode I'm pretty sure she had no lines, and just nodded or laughed. It seemed strange for a "name" actress, who got second billing on the show. Of course as the series went on she had more to do (sometimes).

If you're watching on MeTV, MeTV+ and channels like that, don't forget that scenes have been cut out to allow for additional commercials.

An hour-long show in the 50s and 60s had 51-52 minutes of story and 8-9 minutes of commercials.

Today, the mesothelioma channels typically have 15 minutes of commercials, so 6-7 additional minutes of footage has been cut out.

It's possible that in some of the episodes where you said that Barbara Hale had few or no lines, she actually did have more lines in the original broadcast but they were trimmed out to allow for more more commercials.

There is a gorgeous, crystal-clear remaster of the series available at Amazon Prime free with ads or a Paramount subscription and on DVD. If you really love PM, there's no substitute for seeing the uncut originals in beautiful quality.

Unless they've changed the streaming episode list, there are episodes that are on the DVDs that aren't streamed. When I discovered this, I was like a kid at Christmas. I think it amounted to something like 25 episodes across the first 5 seasons (the best seasons), and it was like I'd found a whole new season that I'd never seen.

Raymond Burr was uncut? Well, he was Canadian.

The Rifleman, since I was a little kid I've loved it. Great that it's on demand/streaming pretty much everywhere.

Laramie. Just "discovered" it in the middle of COVID lockdowns, and have been obsessed with it ever since. Robert Fuller is so gorgeous, and such a tight little craft. And John Smith's build is perfect imo. Love his easy way of moving. And their chemistry, holy fuck! You cannot make me believe those two weren't fucking each other.

[Wagon Train. What a great series. The network/producers were able to pull some heavyweight actors for guests-- Miss Barbara Stanwyck (TWICE!), Bette Davis (TWICE!), Jane Wyman, Ronald Reagan (boooo!), Charles Laughton, Farley Granger, Rhonda Fleming, DL fave Anne Baxter in a wonderful episode, my beloved Marie Windsor, Ann Blyth, Juanita Moore, James MacArthur, Robert Blake, Ernest Borgnine, Lee Marvin, etc.--whoo-wee! The great John Ford even directed an episode. And the regulars were so damned likeable--I have a mad thing for Terry Wilson, dead for many years now.

Perry Mason. Agree with all the previous posters. Wanna know what mid-century modern aesthetic looked and sounded like? Cue up Perry Mason!

Mannix. My sister thinks it's the most boring thing ever, and it does tend to be slow-moving. But that opening theme/montage is EVERYTHING, and Mike Connors and Gail Fisher were great together.

Emergency! HAAAATED it when I was a kid, love it now. Cast was perfect, and it's fun watching how far paramedicine has progressed from then.

Quincy. Yet another show I HAAAATED when it was on, but I gave it another chance 4-5 months ago, and now it's regular viewing for me on FETV.

Highway Patrol. May seem stodgy by today's standards, and Broderick Crawford was no Errol Flynn, but he OWNS that show. What a great actor.

Hawaii Five-0. Loved it when I was a kid, love it now. The modern version was execrable, not even in the same planet as the OG.

Tales From Wells Fargo. Another of the oldies I'd never heard of before the pandemic shutdown. Damn, Dale Robertson is so hot, and so fun to watch.

R342?McCloud was the least popular of the Sunday Mystery wheel shows.

JD Cannon had more sex appeal —BDE

Tonight on Hawaiian Eye:

[quote]S3 E19

[quote]My Love, But Lightly

[quote]A French singer who jilted Tracy years before visits Hawaii, rekindling an old flame and causing a murder. Daniele: Ziva Rodann. Viner: John van Dreelen. Steele: Anthony Eisley. Cricket:...

Apparently Ziva is still with us at 90.

Go on YouTube and watch an episode of Mr. Kovac. (or Kovak) yum yum. In one episode he has Diana Taylor's teenage pussy all wet. 💦

Godzilla v Rodan

[quote]JFK wanted Warren Beatty to play him in “PT 109”

Hmm. Firming on the DL's theory that JFK held a gay card on at least a "casuals" basis.

Watching right now...

r351 What the hell is "Mr. Kovak?"

Look it up in the TV Guide

It's Mr. NOVAK, dumb-ass.

OH SIT ON IT R357

Maybe he did, r353

In Mad Magazine, it was Mr. Nudnik

Fan magazines in the 1960s played up the similar physical appearances of James Franciscus and Richard Chamberlain.

[quote]Fan magazines in the 1960s played up the similar physical appearances of James Franciscus and Richard Chamberlain.

I wonder whether they ever hooked up.

[quote]Perry Mason. Agree with all the previous posters. Wanna know what mid-century modern aesthetic looked and sounded like? Cue up Perry Mason!

Agree, R347. That's why the episodes are so watchable over and over, even though I know the plots already. Re-viewing is rewarded with little (mostly unintentional) glimpses of life ca. 1960. Not just the cars and clothes and set decoration, but how people thought.

I LOVE Perry Mason. Except for the couple of shows where someone kind of fills in for him. Once I believe it was Bette Davis. Those episodes weren't just bad. They were stunningly awful. I wonder how many times that hot, young guy had to let Perry Mason blow him before he got the six or so episode gig.

That is HILARIOUS, R360/R361! And so dead-on.

My siblings and I had a subscription to Mad Magazine, but like Mr. Novak, that issue was before my time.

I only remember James Franciscus in [italic]Longstreet. Such a crush I had on him! [/italic] I seem to recall it was set in New Orleans.

I watch Adam 12 for two very obvious reasons. I have jacked off to Reed.

For Perry fans, this is a fun wiki that has lots of trivia. There's one guy who posts about all of the cars in each episode, if that's your thing.

R368 Interesting. .. Similarly, my boyfriend is always commenting on the cars in Mannix and Cannon Fat Detective. I know I've read articles about the Lincoln Continental Mark III and Mark IV that Cannon had. I think he got a new one every season??

Also, there's a blog on the cars in Mannix.

R341 I don’t know if you ever saw Rebel Without A Cause but he plays Natalie Wood’s father.

Did he wear an apron like Jimmy Dean’s character’s fully emasculated daddy Thurston III?

[quote] I LOVE Perry Mason. Except for the couple of shows where someone kind of fills in for him. Once I believe it was Bette Davis. Those episodes weren't just bad. They were stunningly awful. I wonder how many times that hot, young guy had to let Perry Mason blow him before he got the six or so episode gig.

Wasn’t it a whole season? Burr had an operation and guest-star lawyers substituted for him. I think Walter Pidgeon did several episodes.

Thank you, R370. I have seen Rebel Without A Cause but not for many years and have no recollection of Hopper in that role. The only supporting actor I remember is Jim Backus as James Dean's character's father.

R372, it wasn't a whole season but several episodes in succession. You may be thinking of Bill Talman's much-lamented absence from episodes filmed between March and December of 1960 (thus not appearing in episodes at the end of Season 3 and first half of Season 4 - truly a shame because these are two of the best seasons) because of his arrest on a morals charge.

There was massive viewer protest and strong support from producers and cast of the show, to which CBS eventually caved and re-hired Talman. In the interim, I swear the casting director hired the absolute worst substitutes that they could find in order to make Talman look even better.

Yes, you’re right. Burr missed 4 episodes in one season and two in another season (when I think Mike Connors filled in).

However many there were they were horrible. Do you think Della was the first feminist character on TV? She was a working girl not interested in any romance at the office. We didn't know much about her personal life. She could trade jabs with guys and not be offended. One line I always remembered was when Perry and Della were in the office with a client. The client started with their story, then stopped, and gave Della the stink eye. Perry replied: "anything you can say to me you can say to my secretary." I just love the show. I saw a few episodes and then bought the DVDs. I love the way late era B&W looks. Where the technology got so good the filming was smooth.

Tonight on Have Gun, Will Travel:

[quote]S3 E29

[quote]An International Affair

[quote]A Hawaiian prince is killed in Paladin's doorway. Paladin: Richard Boone. Princess Molokai: Ziva Rodann. Pegeen: Fintan Meyler. Hengst: Oscar Beregi. Gateshead: Harold Innocent.

There were four consecutive non-Perry episodes in the middle of season 6: One each with Bette Davis, Michael Rennie, Walter Pidgeon, and Hugh O'Brian. Mike Connors appeared in one episode in season 8.

R377, Bette defended Michael Parks.

Constant Doyle

I'm watching Have Gun, Will Travel guest starring Paula Raymond. She was a beauty...

Now Kojak...Tige Andrews was nice looking.

Tige's toupee was courtesy of Dollar General.

Hung like a horse…with a hole so tige

Who’s Tige?

He was a Mod in Quodrophenia

Peter Gunn looks good tonight...

*Come Dance With Me And Die*

[quote]Gunn looks for a taxi dancer believed kidnapped by a mobster. Ruth: Patti Saunders. Benedict: Robert P. Lieb. Gunn: Craig Stevens. Candy: Barbara Stuart. Webb: Harry Swoger. Edie: Lola...

The lovely Barbara Stuart...

R387, Barbara Stuart was in everything! I took a look at her imdb page, and there was barely a TV series from late '50s through the '80s that she didn't appear on at least once. Also, she was married to Dick Gautier for a while.

The lovely Barbara Stuart's looking a bit mannish at R387, isn't she? I remember her as Sgt. Carter's girlfriend Bunny on "Gomer Pyle."

Then she was perfect for Sergeant Carter, who I always felt had more than a hint of mint about him.

R390, Frank Sutton was kind of sexy, though. Not a handsome man, quite short, but a nice body and a great hairy torso. Sadly, he died of a heart attack at 50 in 1974. He was married to the same woman from 1947 to his death. They had two kids. Probably not gay, but you never know. Sgt. Carter, on the other hand, yes. Can totally imagine him having alcohol-fueled man-sex on the downlow, then beating up the other guy, then sobbing drunkenly and apologizing, then ignoring the man complete when they see each in public the next day.

Here's Frank with Ruth Buzzi on Love, American Style. That chest and abdominal hair has me all hot and bothered.

“That chest and abdominal hair has me all hot and bothered.“

On Ruth?

The quonsets in Gomer Pyle had bathrooms with walls that didn't touch the ceiling and no doors. The smell that must have come out of those!!

fantasy island rules, especially the original tv movies

R393, Gomer’s piles.

I loved watching Gomer and Hogan's Heroes in afternoon repeats when I was a kid. They both hold up, in different ways, as an adult. When I was a kid I was obsessed with the Marines marching in the intro. I still find it impressive as an adult.

Partridge Family on Tubi!

[quote]I loved watching Gomer and Hogan's Heroes in afternoon repeats when I was a kid. They both hold up, in different ways, as an adult.

"Hogan's Heroes" sucked almost 60 years ago and sucks now. I guess that could be considered "holding up."

Probably a good idea to remember that TV and movies of the 50s and 60s didn't depict real life in that period any more than TV and movies do today.

I don't think anyone, not even Dee Plorable, has ever thought Hogan's Heroes was an accurate depiction of life in a German POW camp.

I watch Barnaby Jones when I go to bed and The Fugitive comes on right after. I've grown to hate that show (The Fugitive). From what I've seen, he goes to a new place every week, tries to lie low, somehow gets mixed up with some shady characters up to no good, is found out as a wanted criminal, and makes his escape out of town. That's literally every episode.

I Guess That's Why They Call It The Fugitive and not the happy homemaker. Dumbass

Whatever, r402. I was just saying that the show was repetitive.

Your gratuitous nastiness whelms, R402.

R398 Totally agree. Hogan's Heroes is just stupid TV, then and now. As soon as it comes on, I change the channel. I can't believe MeTV still gives it a whole hour.

Think of it as Gilligan’s Stalag. Nothing more, nothing less.

R403 Re The Fugitive. You're probably right, I've never seen it. But old TV shows were made to be seen once a week, and seen one time, unless repeated (and then you usually didn't watch the rerun). And people couldn't record them. So they could probably satisfy people easier even with the repetition.

I haven't seen Hogan's Heroes since I was a kid, but I and my dad enjoyed it. Even some people I knew who lived under the Nazis loved the show. Tastes change. It was innovative at the time.

My father, a hardcore WWII Marine, thought “Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.” was an embarrassment.

I'm currently watching The Fugitive having never seen it before.

Am enjoying the various ways thet create tension for Richard Kimble and the threat of being discovered always looming. The do have some clever writers.

Then you had the mystery of the one-armed man also playing, adding an element of mystery and suspense to keep audiences hooked.

A very well done series. That said, it was wise to end it after four seasons. I suspect it would have run out of gas by the fifth season.

My brother loved Gomer Pyle as a teenager and went into the Marines because of it.

Gilligan's Island as a kid I could never understand why they wanted to get off the island.

R369 why did Charlie’s angels drive shit cars?

R413, I was known as a cheap bastard.

Sha-zayum!

[quote]Gilligan's Island as a kid I could never understand why they wanted to get off the island.

Getting away from the super-annoying Gilligan would be reason enough.

As an adult, I have re-watched several series from beginning to end, including Hazel, my three sons, Maude, our Miss Brooks, the Beverly hillbillies, I love Lucy, the Lucy show, here's Lucy, petticoat Junction, Dick Van Dyke, $300 but I could only get through a few episodes of Gilligans island before I had to turn it off. I don't know why I loved this so much as a kid but it is unbearable as an adult.

Disregard the $300.

R417, Umm, maybe because you were a kid?

I just watched a My Three Sons. Well it was one on YouTube. Three episodes rolled into one video. Rob was in his reserve uniform. Holy shit was he fucking hot.

I remember when the blond one (Chip?) was the youngest child and then Tim Considine left the series and Don Grady became the oldest son on the show, and Barry Livingston (the brother in real life of the blond kid) was adopted so they could still call it My Three Sons. I also remember Bub (William Frawley). I used to say that to my friends, but they could only remember Uncle Charley (William Demarest).

They were hoping to keep it going, I assume, with Katie having triplets.

Tina Cole and Don Grady dated in real life, but then he broke it off and she was devastated.

[quote]Tina Cole and Don Grady dated in real life, but then he broke it off and she was devastated.

Was she so devastated that her hair actually moved?

r421 Yeah, but they never changed the title to "My Three Sons And a Stepdaughter," did they?

The network was all set to go with a spinoff for Katie and Rob. Scripts were written, sets were made, and all the other pre-production stuff. Don Grady backed out at the last possible moment he could. He had just had enough. He played Rob for 12 years. Twelve fucking years. Could you imagine? He wanted to concentrate on his music. Though it was a B list part at best I really love Tina Cole. She really had a presence about her. Too bad she couldn't have had a bigger career. Fuck you Doodie. Your addition was worse than Annie on Family.

I couldn’t care less about my three sons

Thanks for coming here to tell us that, R427. It's what we were all wondering about.

Rob was noticeably absent for the entire last season of MTS. But at least they acknowledged his existence, unlike what happened to poor Mike.

I was on Perry Mason this morning.

Don Grady was the only reason to watch My Three Sons.

r430 I saw her on an "Ozzie and Harriet" yesterday (on FreeVee.) She was on Andy Griffith several times too.

Don Grady was on Have Gun , Will Travel tonight.

Jesus H. He was just so fucking hot. He was a Mouseketeer too. I'm sure I spelled that wrong.

I forgot all about Tina Cole. I loved her as a kid! I also liked Beverly Garland, and Barry Livingston.

The other day I happened to watch this interview with Barry Livingston about his appearance on The Lucy Show. I enjoyed it, he's a cool guy.

Barry Livingston's autobio is a fun read.

I liked when he talked about Bill Frawley in the interview.

Pennies From Heaven is on tonight...

I'm always up for a classic Twilight Zone episode or two. They still entertain me.

Just watched an episode of the Alfred Hitchcock hour, with Bruce Dern and Teresa Wright, still pretty bone chilling.

OP - I watch nothing BUT old crap on 📺

Hazel stands the test of time the best.

R442, And her gum jobs were incredible.

Connie Towers just sang a jazzy The Man I Love on Perry Mason (The Case of the Missing Melody). Legit sopranos sound odd singing jazz.

If I were Mr B I would have murdered Hazel in her sleep. That woman was a nightmare!

OH George. You know she means well.

R445, She was nothing but a domestic!

Deirdre = cunt

R435, thanks for posting that video. That was interesting to watch.

Hazel ... idiot, imbecile or moron?

Hazel took my virginity.

I lost my virginity to a bubba

Tonight on DVD...Barbara Stuart as Maureen Core.

r453 Jackie Joseph plays one of the other strippers, IIRC.

Easy on the jam Mr b. I've let those pants out more than the dog.

Yes, r454, see my signature.

Gloria Talbot was on Perry Mason today. I always found her to be...odd-looking.

When Deidre, the cunt supreme, comes over to the Baxter residence, to show off her new mink coat:

Hazel: If that coat ever has pups can I have one?

Dierdre would get a comeuppance and lkearn her lesson and in her next episode was back to being Cunty McCunterson.

Get away from my sex hole

r460, *nobody* wants your sex hole.

Did the Baxters really need a live-in maid?

She'd been with Missy since Missy was a little girl, r462.

R461 your nobody called today

Mr. Griffin loved giving Hazel anal.

Jackie Joseph is now 90 and appeared on 'Modern Family' in 2019.

I did not know that , r466. Good for her.

Almost ... alien, R457?

⬆️ That movie is pretty good and is a heavily gay metaphor.

It is pretty good. Tom Tryon was a wooden actor, but damn he had a beautiful body - not just for the era but for now, too. Those broad shoulders and the narrow waist, fit and athletic but not grotesquely pumped-up ... and of course the hairy chest. He has a shirtless scene in "I Married ..." that makes the movie worth watching, brief though it is. But even aside from that, it's a fun film.

Jackie Joseph was also in the original "Little Shop of Horrors."

Jackie's 90 years old and has outlived all three of her children with Ken Berry (one biological, two adopted.) It's horrible for a parent to lose a child, but THREE must be unbearable.

R472 Lose a child? They were in their 50s.

Was wathcing "I Spy" - I want Bill Cosby's sweater.

WHET all our discussions on Max Gail? Any updates? Any more pics of his ass?

To lose one child, Miss Joseph, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose three looks like carelessness.

Watching Perry Mason S1E37 "The Case of the Black-Eyed Blonde" - the blonde in the title is Whitney Blake, the wife/mother in Hazel. "A beautiful blonde enters Perry's legal life wearing a bathrobe and sporting a black eye."

You can barely call her an actress but Whitney Blake is one of the most beautiful woman ever to step in front of the camera.

[quote]Jackie Joseph was also in the original "Little Shop of Horrors."

She wasn't just "in" it. She was the original Audrey!

R479, After Ken Berry ditched her, she joined a group of other shitcanned Hollywood wives and they would appear on talk shows.

Mrs. Michael Landon, Mrs. Glen Campbell, etc.

Aw, poor Whitney...

Looks like she ran into a door. Or my husband.

Whitney was on the first episode...The Case of the Restless Redhead. Too bad she didn't get to make it a brunette trifecta.

[quote]After Ken Berry ditched her, she joined a group of other shitcanned Hollywood wives and they would appear on talk shows. Mrs. Michael Landon, Mrs. Glen Campbell, etc.

The group was called LADIES (Life After Divorce Is Eventually Sane).

Bill Cosby had a cute little ass in "I Spy", too.

I'm surprised Hitchcock never tried to get Whitney in a movie. She has that classic Hitchcock look and she's quite talentless. He seemed to love the challenge of bringing out a performance in an actress who didn't have much. I wonder if Whitney was proud of Meredith's success or jealous.

Bonnie Franklin owes Whitney Blake, big time.

Perhaps the two of them are settling up accounts on the Other Side, R487.

[quote] I'm surprised Hitchcock never tried to get Whitney in a movie. She has that classic Hitchcock look and she's quite talentless. He seemed to love the challenge of bringing out a performance in an actress who didn't have much.

You think Ingrid Bergman, Eva Marie Saint, Madeleine Carroll, Doris Day, Grace Kelly and Anne Baxter were on the same talent level as Whitney Blake?

I see your point. I was wrong. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of Tipi!. But she does look like a Hitchcock blonde. Oh dear god. I just realized I've made enough posts about her to qualify as the Whitney Blake troll. EEK. 🧌

[quote]Bonnie Franklin owes Whitney Blake, big time.

So do all of Meredith's lez lovers.

Why were people on TV (and in general) so thin, in the '60s? Probably never worked out, or anything. I notice this all the time watching old shows. Middle-aged guys wear fitted suits and have no belly at all. Look at Dean and Jack Webb here.

Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette, r492.

R493 Desi Arnaz smoked and he was somewhat fat. Jackie Gleason smoked and he was *really* fat.

John Wayne was no sylph, either.

R492, food was different.

I feel like we're missing something, though. I think people today who do not eat processed foods still seem to get heavier than people did back then. Even the thin ones seem less slender. But this isn't the topic of the thread.

They swam and played tennis.

We moved.

Most people stare at screens today.

I walked everywhere. A couple of miles, regularly. Or rode my bike. My mom never drove me to a friend's house, to school, or to the movies. Sometimes if it was late, my parents might pick me up or the friend's parent would drive me home. (We had a curfew.)

Tonight on Kojak:

*When You Hear The Beep, Drop Dead*

[quote]A wealthy ecologist's wife plans to murder him and frame a nonexistent call girl. Telly Savalas, Kevin Dobson. Carol Krug: Susan Sullivan. Krug: Eric Braeden. Barry: Dale Robinette. Stavros:...

77 Sunset Strip. It has a 25-year old Dyan Cannon as the guest actress that the case is built around.

Ricky Nelson is singing a rock version of "Summertime" (the Porgy and Bess song) right now on "O&H."

R503 Do they show the old b&w Ozzie And Harriet shows, when the boys were young, as well as the newer ones?

Patti (the ex Mrs Jerry) Lewis was a charter member of L.A.D.I.E.S.

Do any of these nostalgia channels ever show specials (like this one, in Living Color)?

R505, They didn’t have Nancy Sinatra, Sr. In their group. Frank wisely supported her for the rest of her life, long after he died.

R507 Frank also screwed all his ex wives.

Meaning, had sex with them.

Not "treated badly".

r504 All seasons are on FreeVee or Prime.

Lots of TCM over the holidays

R492, on the other hand, they looked way older than people do now, and not just because of Hollywood's cosmetic surgery obsession. They looked older than ordinary people.

I was watching Season 1 of Bewitched recently and thought to myself, "Darrin's parents look way too old to be the parents of a newlywed, who in those days would be in his mid-20s tops." So I looked up the actors, and both of them were only in their 50s. Still arguably a bit too old, but they looked in their 70s by today's standards.

[quote]So I looked up the actors, and both of them were only in their 50s. Still arguably a bit too old, but they looked in their 70s by today's standards.

But that's what people in their 50s looked like in the 1960s when the episodes were filmed.

But yes, our society's perceptions of aging have changed in the 50+ years since those Bewitched episodes were filmed.

Darrin was in his early 30s when the show started, so his parents were the appropriate age.

From this morning's Perry Mason credits:

Barbara Pepper...Fat Woman

R515, Not to be confused with . . .

I would *never* confuse Barbara with Cynthia, r516.

R514. A lot of actors looked younger than their ages. For a long while Henry Fonda looked young. He was 50 when the movie Mister Roberts was released. Playing a guy who was around 30. Lucille Ball looked younger than her age when she was in her 50s. Even when she was on Password,or something like that, And of course Cary Grant looked youthful. Deborah Kerr, Audrey Hepburn...it depended on the actor.

There have always been character actors who looked older, who were actually young. And the opposite. Angela Lansbury was always playing much older characters, and not even usually made up to look older.

R517, that credit sequence is a camp hoot

I'm watching Alfred Hitchcock Presents on Peacock right now

R517 Based on the 1940s movie starring Jeanne Crain.

Did Jeanne Crain play a mulatto in "Margie"?

I'm re-watching Timeless on Hulu, one episode a night.

I wish it had lasted longer.

[quote] they looked way older than people do now,

There are exceptions. Like this 17 year old receding hairline high school kid.

That was Pinky, r523.

Take your off-topic NY Post link elsewhere, r525.

R523 No, and she didn’t play a “mulatto” in Pinky, either. She played a light-skinned black woman.

This is on tonight...

R518, true. And some actors looked their ages. Here are Leon Ames and Mary Astor in Meet Me in St Louis. He was 42; she was 36. I think they look exactly right for their ages and make quite an attractive couple.

Leon was barely old enough to be Judy Garland's father, being 20 when she was born. Mary Astor was technically old enough to be her mother, but she was only 16 when Judy was born.

On an unrelated side note, I have always had a bit of a thing for Leon Ames. I think he was very handsome.

Leon Ames’ career highlight was his role on “Mr. Ed”.

I remember going to see "Peggy Sue Got Married" and being so surprised to see Leon Ames playing Kathleen Turner's grandfather. I had no idea he was still alive.

I've been working my way through the entire run of the original Dark Shadows. It had its moments, and good for a campy laugh now and then but overall meh. It's on Tubi now.

I think Leon Ames was attractive.

Leon Ames hit me in the head with a fondue pot.

L&O Criminal Intent just began with an appearance by the always glamorous Chuck Schumer.

Speaking of Leon Ames, I was introduced to him in some Old Shit on TV called LIFE WITH FATHER, which was, of course, based on the longest running play on Broadway (record still unbroken!) a series that was ran for maybe only a season or two in the late 1950s when I was a wee gayling.

His wife was played by charming Lurene Tuttle, a ubiquitous character actress who turned up on every TV series imaginable in the 50s and 60s.There were also a lot of cute sons in the family.

Norman took a wife...?

R537 Lurene Tuttle, mother of Barbara Ruick.

I didn't know that, r539, but I can definitely see the resemblance.

Are you guys aware there is a podcast called "That's Classic!" where they interview people who were in old shit on TV? I just heard a comprehensive account there of the Bewitched set from Erin Murphy (Tabitha).

Leon Ames always looks like he sees someone trying to murder him.

I am old enough (74) to think of old shit as reruns of Private Secretary with Ann Sothern, My Little Margie and Oh, Susannah! with Gale Storm, December Bride with Spring Byington, Our Miss Brooks with Eve Arden and I Married Joan with Joan Davis. And, of course, Lucy. Those ladies were my morning babysitters for all of my childhood.

I also loved Burns & Allen with George and Gracie and Love that Bob! with Bob Cummings.

R543 one mystery to me is why those shows, shot on film, aren't available to us in better shape. Private Secretary/Susie is on some public domain bootleggy DVDs, Margie has all but disappeared, and December Bride/Pete and Gladys has never been released in any legit format that I know of. It was a Desilu show with over 150 episodes.

Bachelor Father is another one, just worn looking prints aired at odd hours on stations no one has ever heard of.

Bachelor Father is on AntennaTV - not an obscure network.

R543, I think December Bride and I Married Joan are so tedious and nearly unwatchable. I sampled both but am not coming back for seconds.

Also, Bachelor Father is one I had hopes for, but it too is a drag.

I also liked My little Margie back in the day, but I have not seen it in decades; I wonder if it holds up. And Private Secretary sounds interesting, mainly because of Ann Sothern, but I have not seen any episodes.

Lucy's later shows may be dreadful, but at least they're never dull.

Love that Bob has its charms (Alice and Miss Hathaway) but the plots are a strain.

And I agree that Burns and Allen are in a class of their own; they never seem dated and there's always a few good laughs in each episode.

Also, there's Ronnie Burns.

R548, Ronnie was adopted. His biological parents must have been gorgeous.

Barnaby Jones with Lee Meriwether

I loved the sense of what living in Los Angeles was like in the 1950s from Love That Bob! and Burns & Allen, at least if you were white and rich. Ronnie Burns and Dwayne Hickman played over-sexed college boys in those series. What fun!

I believe both of those shows benefited from the scripts of Paul Henning who later went on to produce The Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction. He didn't forget Bea Benaderet or Nancy Kulp.

R551 give it a rest.

[quote] Barnaby Jones with Lee Meriwether

WTF? Isn't this a gay website? What about ME?!

[quote] I just heard a comprehensive account there of the Bewitched set from Erin Murphy (Tabitha).

A good idea in principle but everybody would have been nice to little Erin who was too young to hearthe good stuff. Nothing about Liz's and William Asher's numerous adulteries or Dick Dick Sargent's orgies with sweaty Teamsters.

R554 - That's what I was thinking. WTF could she remember? She was what, four years old? And it was more than 50 years ago.

My attention span is also not what it once was. A 24 or 26 minute episode of a sitcom is 20-30% longer than a skip-the-intro and closing credits, 20 minute episode from recent times.

[quote] A 24 or 26 minute episode of a sitcom is 20-30% longer than a skip-the-intro and closing credits, 20 minute episode from recent times.

The nostalgia channels trick you though. They speed up the running video so they still shove in the extra commerials

R116, that was hilarious.

Always thought Sid Caesar was sexy, and he kept his body fit and trim well into his 80s.

Sanford & Son every night on Pluto

Stumbled into watching a bunch of vintage things on Pluto TV...Love Boat, Hogan's Heroes, Three's Company with some Mama's Family on the side. Basically, any show where I can see a thicket of 70's chest hair.

Lately I've been watching 227 and forgot about Oscar-winning Brenda as portrayed by Regina King. Who saw that coming?

On MeTv recently I watched through the old Henry Fonda series "The Deputy". Poorly preserved video but Fonda was very good.

The logistics of that show particularly interested me. They would film the entire series excluding Fonda's scenes, then later Henry would come in and work straight through for a few weeks filling in the gaps. It didn't show at all.

Interesting r561. I think Fred MacMurray filmed “My Three Sons” that way as well. All at once…

MacMurray was the lead on My Three Sons and he did film that way. Fonda didn’t have a big role in every episode of he Deputy.

*The Deputy

Didn't Brian Keith do that as well on Family Affair?

I'm a What's My Line? fanatic, watched all the many episodes countless times but have always found it funny that in the early years (the early 1950s), when the mystery guest was the star of a TV series, the panel, especially Dorothy Kilgallen, would seem lost and snobbishly admit to watching very little TV. IIRC they had no idea who Gale Storm was when they took off their masks and looked at her. Awkward!

R566 And yet they were on TV themselves.

“Married… with Children”, “Murder, She Wrote”, “I Love Lucy”.

R566, Gale Storm had been in numerous movies since 1940.

Bennett Cerf admitted in an extensive audio interview in his later years that he sometimes had no idea who some of the mystery guests were even after being revealed.

In the 1960s, they had a few lesser known foreign actresses as mystery guests, hardly famous.

Gale Storm's "numerous movies" were not up to Dorothy Kilgallen's high standards, r569. Can you name any of them?

R571 . . .

Tom Brown's School Days (1940) One Crowded Night (1940) Let's Go Collegiate (1941) City of Missing Girls (1941) Saddlemates (1941) Gambling Daughters (1941) Uncle Joe (1941) Red River Valley (1941) Jesse James at Bay (1941) Lure of the Islands (1942) Freckles Comes Home (1942) Man from Cheyenne (1942) Smart Alecks (1942) Foreign Agent (1942) Rhythm Parade (1942) Nearly Eighteen (1943) Where Are Your Children? (1943) Revenge of the Zombies (1943) Campus Rhythm (1943) The Crime Smasher (1943) G. I. Honeymoon (1945) Sunbonnet Sue (1945) Forever Yours (1945) Swing Parade of 1946 (1946) It Happened on Fifth Avenue (1947) The Dude Goes West (1948) Abandoned (1949) Stampede (1949) The Kid from Texas (1950) Curtain Call at Cactus Creek (1950) The Underworld Story (1950) Between Midnight and Dawn (1950) Al Jennings of Oklahoma (1951) The Texas Rangers (1951) Woman of the North Country (1952

A classic.

Gale Storm was in B westerns and other B pictures. I don’t think Arlene Francis or Bennett Cerf spent a lot of their time watching movies like Curtain Call At Cactus Creek, The Crime Smasher, or Sunbonnet Sue.

R574, Gale was also a successful recording artist and Dorothy, especially, considered herself a connoisseur of popular music.

Gale ain't gonna worry.

Classic.

I guess I can go on somehow without knowing why Dorothy Kilgallen didn’t know who gale Storm was 70 years ago.

R578, Today, most under the age of 60 have no idea who Dorothy Kilgallen was.

It's amazing the caliber of stars and well known people What's My Line was able to get.

R580, Eleanor Roosevelt was a Mystery Guest.

And Frank Lloyd Wright!

Gale Storm's "hits" all sound like Teresa Brewer's rejects.

I loved Gale Storm.

I liked watching "Sky King". Anyone recall that one?

I also really enjoyed all the serials they did on the old Mickey Mouse Club. They featured several actors that became famous.

The Songbird and Penny, r584

I liked Annie Oakley

Lorena Hickok would have been a better mystery guest

Spin & Marty and Annette were two of the Mickey Mouse Club limited series, I loved them both. And, of course, Davy Crockett!

Who was a child of the 50s that didn't crave a coonskin cap and set of Mickey Mouse ears?

r109 damn, that blows my mind

It really is surprising how many academic leaders, Broadway actors, etc. were known well enough for What's My Line?

Now most people wouldn't be able to recognize a famous writer and if they're on TV at all, academics and writers are relegated to talk/news programs - and generally, only the shit stirring political pundits, at that.

Life magazine and the other pictorial magazines tended to make the country more aware of Broadway stars and plays. So did early TV, the variety shows, and Today and Tonight shows, usually came from New York.

The big difference between fame then and now is that back then, EVERYONE watched the same 3 networks on TV and EVERYONE read LIFE and LOOK and TIME Magazines. There were far less options for obtaining information unlike today's social media free for all.

R590, Most mystery guests were either in town to promote a new film or were appearing on Broadway or in a NYC nightclub.

Bennett, Arlene and Dorothy were well aware who was in NYC that week.

R555, Erin was 8 when Bewitched ended, by which time she was great friends with Liz Montgomery's kids, with whom she continued to be close growing up (and still is). So she knew adult stuff that she wasn't told at the time but found out later from the kids, or maybe from other adult actors she stayed in touch with--there were a few. She talked about the breakup of the Asher marriage, noting that the Other Man had been a director on the show "since Day 1", so she knows more than you think. She is, of course, a pro. She has continued to work in various jobs in the industry, and wasn't going to dish a lot of dirt on people she grew up with and who were nice to her because she was a kid.

I found a lot of it quite interesting. For instance, when she started she was chosen because she was one of twins, but they were non-identical. That was fine when they were babies, but not so much after that, and she took over the role on her own. She talked about the set and where else it was used, and about the relationship between Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie. She also talked about how they did the "magic", and explained in detail why Dick Sargent left and the nature of the accident that destroyed his back.

R593 I think R590’s point was that these guests had to be known to the public, as well. The public wouldn’t enjoy the show if the mystery guests were obscure to the general public.

I’m old enough to remember that, let’s say, the Ed Sullivan show, would have the cast of a Broadway musical on the show to perform. Entertainment and culture was still relatively New York-centered. And East-coast-centered, up until probably the ‘70s. Nobody was talking about how much money the latest blockbuster film made, except at Hollywood parties. West coast culture was considered almost nonexistent and the East coast generally set the standards and the trends.

Not saying it’s right or wrong, but movies, to some extent, and TV for sure, were not thought of as an art form, to the average person in that era. Partly that may have been due to how we were influenced by the critics and commentators of the time.

R595, WML? was in the top 10 each week year after year. Celebrities/Performers in NYC to promote a project would kill to be a mystery guest.

There was never a problem finding a well known person to appear as a mystery guest.

R597 I don’t really know what you’re trying to tell me. I was talking about R590’s post.

I'm always surprised by how many Mystery Guests on WML barely chat with John and the panel after being revealed and quickly leave the stage. Of course, that might have been more common with the guests who weren't there to promote a film or Broadway show, like a lot of the old timers. It varied more than you'd think from show to show, maybe simply due to time constraints.

R599, It was often a time problem. The show was “live” and they had to be off the air at a precise time.

R598, Simply that it was NEVER a problem finding a mystery guest that would be known to the general public.