Attention 80s Gays: Falcon Crest Streams on FreeVee

Does FreeVee have Savannah (1996)?

Great, I’ve never seen it. I didn’t watch television in the 1980’s.

What is FreeVee and how do you access it?

R2, why didn’t you watch television in the 1980s?

I didn’t watch it when it new but I watched it here. It is a lot of fun-it is sort of a cross between Dallas and Dynasty. Watching that vinegary old bitch Jane Wyman cunt her way through a scene is entertaining.

Lorenzo Lamas and William Moses were incredibly sexy.

There are so many old actresses and actors to which Jane Wyman gave work in guest roles. Some I didn't even know who they were. Eve Arden is even in one episode.

I misread the heading as Falcon cum streams 🤷🏻‍♂️

This was one of the nighttime soaps I never got into. Dallas, Dynasty, and Knots Landing were my favorite, Knots Landing especially, thanks to Ted Shackleford.

I lusted for Billy and Lorenzo, but really loved the bitchy Ana-Alicia and Laura Johnson. They were great to watch, and Wyman doing Nancy Reagan Red was priceless.

Jane Wyman was a nasty old bitch!

I’ll only watch the Babylonia scenes.

R11 = Prince’s corpse

Angela was evil in a way that Alexis, Abby and JR weren’t. She had no problem throwing her kids and grandkids to the wolves to get money and power.

Remember when she forced Melissa to give up custody of her baby son if she wanted to be named heir of Falcon Crest?

[quote]What is FreeVee and how do you access it?

Formerly known as IMDb TV, it's like Amazon's answer to Tubi (and actually carries much of the same content as Tubi). It has some original programming but offers a lot of old TV shows, films and TV movies. You can access it via Amazon if you're in the US (or if you use a VPN elsewhere). It's free with ad breaks.

FreeVee also has all 14 seasons of Dallas.

Dynasty is on Amazon Prime.

Knots doesn’t appear to be anywhere.

We probably don’t get Knots because of stupid Ciji/Cathy and her singing. Ciji was trashy fun but Cathy was an annoying asshole.

Someone uploaded every "Knots Landing" episode, including bonus content (interviews, TV specials), to YouTube a year or two ago and posted about it here but I'm not sure that particular thread exists anymore (nor can I find the YT channel now).

FC was at its best IMO when the storylines revolved around the range wars/rivalries between the vintners--Angela vs. Chase, Angela vs. Richard, Angela vs. Melissa. The later seasons really dragged, but I did enjoy when Melissa was really crazy. Angela was so effective at tormenting crazy Melissa.

Also, points to Maggie for a particularly gruesome death.

Also, I respect the hell out of Jane Wyman's work ethic. Despite health problems, she found the strength to make it back for the final episodes, and wrote Angela's final speech herself.

I hope I don’t regret this, but I’m feeling generous. Knots Landing is on daily motion. Every episode.

What season does the good music start on knots?

The scenes between Jane Badler and Jane W. were electric with humor. It brought out a funny side of Angie. Unfortunately they got rid of Jane B way too soon. She was an incredible addition to the show. A fan favorite too. A huge misstep.

R2, I’d moved to San Francisco and was busy with work and socializing. I also preferred reading and listening to music so I didn’t own a television set. However, the television is on as I type this. My husband of 27 years lines told watch and I like being in the same room!!

[quote] I misread the heading as Falcon cum streams 🤷🏻‍♂️

That was the name of one of Jane Wyman's other starring vehicles for CBS.

Surprisingly, it never caught on.

Jane Wyman was buried as a Dominican lay nun.

One last lay for the old dame, eh?

I love the scenes between Jane Wyman and Lana Turner, they hated each other so much they couldn’t film the same scene together and would shoot their lines separately.

They are in the same scene, right there^^

Lana’s dentures keep slipping there

They may have been in the same scene but they didn’t film it together-see how you never see them next to each other or side by sifet, and how the camera goes back and forth between the two of them?

When Jane heard that Lana was going to be hired, she urged Earl Hamner not to do so because “she is not a lady.”

No, in that scene Lana literally walks past Jane in a medium shot… this wasn’t like Hayley Mills in The Parent Trap…🙃

Loved the show. And some of the seasons are still my favorite TV experience. And some others are so not. Overall the seasons were very different in tone. If I remember correctly the show had (at least) five different showrunners and they all left very distinctive marks. The last season alone had two retools, one at the beginning, one in the middle.

I miss SoapNet. There's so many hours of bad primetime soap operas that aren't streamed.

The last episode really is the best where they decide the future of FC for the next gen and Angela says that despite all the legalities at the end of the day whoever is the toughest will have it.

Maggie’s death was the best!

[quote] Maggie’s death was the best!

It had me spinning.

Kim Novak is so creepy and campy as Kit Marlowe, and it makes me laugh when she breathlessly says, “OH FATHER” to that old queen Cesar Romero while heaving her tits forward.

Jane Wyman in that fright wig always made me think of someone but I can't quite place it...

I wish Daily Motion had an app for Roku.

Unpopular opinion: I loved FC’s last, synthesizer heavy, mix of the theme and the crazy wine glass visuals.

I also loved (in one of the early/middle seasons) that when they showed Emma they also featured hot air balloons.

What I didn’t love was the original pilot with Michael Swan, Dorkas, and Jane Wyman in that ridiculous wig.

Jane looked like the world’s bitchiest poodle.

Weren’t they planning to bring Chase back from the dead?

I think they left it open deliberately when they drowned him in the bay. There was that cliffhanger where they played with the viewers. Angela asks a character in the dark when he would tell Maggie that he was still alive. The audience was supposed to wonder if it was Chase or Richard. But I doubt that Foxworth or the producers of the penultimate season ever considered his return. At that point the budget was already severely constraint and they couldn't have afforded Foxworth and Selby on the show at the same time.

What's the backstory regarding changing the name from The Vintage Years to Falcon Crest?

[quote]I love the scenes between Jane Wyman and Lana Turner, they hated each other so much they couldn’t film the same scene together and would shoot their lines separately.

I remember some bitchy critic in some magazine referred to their scenes together as "Little Orphan Annie meets E. T."

R42 - I don't recall all the details, but the show was sued by a writer who claimed they stole her idea (from a novel). I remember it went to trial but not who prevailed. If memory serves, the book was called The Vintage Years. This would've been early 80s.

I watched Apollonia’s first episode the other day and a flood of memories came back. She played a cocktail waitress/aspiring singer who met Lance when he fended two rude guys off from her. Lorenzo really was fine as fuck. Watching him mime the words to Sting’s “If You Love Someone Set Them Free” in that scene was hilarious. Ditto William Moses is the fine department. I’d forgotten what a great ass he had.

Both of the Moses brothers were hot as fuck. William (Falcon Crest, Melrose Place) and Rick (General Hospital). The latter did not age well (think Randy Quaid level crazy), but William still looks good. Coincidentally, William recently appeared on GH as the recast Jeff Webber. Rick had been on the show 40 years earlier as the sexy prison fugitive "Hutch".

I wish Simon had presented hole. He's dead now.

Simon was sexy. Greg and Terry never should have been written out. I love what an unapologetic slut Terry was.

Well, thank you Datalounge! Thanks to you I started watching Falcon Crest again. And thoroughly enjoying it. The show could be so funny, especially Angela. "It's all Chase's fault." "Was there ever a time when it wasn't my fault?"

[quote]Both of the Moses brothers were hot as fuck. William (Falcon Crest, Melrose Place) and Rick (General Hospital). The latter did not age well (think Randy Quaid level crazy), but William still looks good. Coincidentally, William recently appeared on GH as the recast Jeff Webber. Rick had been on the show 40 years earlier as the sexy prison fugitive

BOTH?

That old fairy Cesar Romero must have needed 4 cold showers a day during his first season-young William Moses; young Ken Olin; young Lorenzo Lamas and young John Callahan running around the set in tight jeans or speedos.

Chao-Li stood by with a fainting divan, R51

R50 - That's a different set of hot Moses brothers. Or is that Mosi? Gift of the Mosi? I digress...

Broadway hottie Burke is brother to Desperate Housewives "dad-bod" hottie Mark Moses. Mark's pic is below.

And yes, I'd do all four although Rick is not looking so good these days. A little on the Duck Dynasty side...

I liked Burke Moses as Sean Baxter on ATWT. I think he was on another soap as well.

Burke was also on loving as one of the Curtis Aldens.

Let’s discuss that waste of space, Vicki2. She was a such a nasty spoiled bitch.. I loved when Maggie would yell at her or shake her or slap her.

way off course but OMG I was in 7th grade when Loving premiered. I still think about the original Curtis Alden.

Burke Moses was the original Gaston in BATB on Broadway. Mark Moses was George Deveraux's illegitimate son on "Golden Girls."

Simon Greg was once considered to be James Bond. Esther Williams once walked in on a young Lorenzo Llamas, her stepson, masturbating by the family pool. Robert Foxworth was like Mike Brady wanting to rewrite all the scripts thinking they were doing Shakespeare. The last two seasons they stopped doing any shooting in Northern California wine country due to budget cuts.

[quote] Esther Williams once walked in on a young Lorenzo Llamas, her stepson, masturbating by the family pool.

Link to source please.

I loved Falcon Crest as a teen. It would come on after Dallas on CBS (Friday nights).....Nancy Reagans "signature" color was RED....And as the gossip went, Angela Channing (Jane Wyman) would make a point of wearing it a lot on FC to piss off Nancy Davis Reagan.. Jane would also never comment or insult her ex husband Ronald Reagan. That was her line when giving interviews and more than once she walked out on reporters who tried it. A class act.

Jane Wyman winning her Golden Globe for Best Actress for Falcon Crest. She calls herself a bitch.

[quote]Lorenzo Llamas

Oh, dear.

Susan Sullivan is close to being my all time favorite. Simply because of her role as Kitty on Dharma and Greg. She ran away with the show. Both Elfman and Gibson ended up hating her because it became the Kitty show for a while and treated her very badly. She can do it all from the grittiest of drama to comedy.

"Oh, you want to SAVE the birds"

[quote] Lorenzo Llamas

I tried to lure him to my animal sanctuary, but he said I was like an old Rhonda Fleming!

I remember The Village Voice critique of It's A Living, and their love for Susan Sullivan, and their head scratching at the casting of Wendy Schaal. I think the same edition had their review of the last season of Charlie's Angels, and how Gary Frank appeared as a villain on CA, because of course he used to be Willie on Family, and wear sweaters and act sensitive. LOL.

I’m watching season 6 and Vicki2 is such an obnoxious cunt, like she was trying to steal the “Nastiest Ginger on TV” award from Ann Romano.

Agreed. Vicky2 was not interesting enough to be just entitled. I hated her, but not in a love hate way. I'm not sure Dana Sparks was gifted, but she certainly wasn't given much good material. The was a short arc where Angela tried to develop her to a true Gioberti, and I thought that could go somewhere. But it was aborted very quickly.

Vicky2 could have been such a good character if it was based at least somewhat on Vicky1. Two totally different people.

If anyone knows the answer to this question a DLer will. Were any of the songs Babylonia sang on the show , in whole or part, did any of them appear in any album. I had her one solo album which I liked but nothing from FC rang a bell.

According to this they weren’t, r69

Thanks R70!

[quote]Were any of the songs Babylonia sang on the show ,

First, you should be strung up for calling her Babylonia. Second, Red Light Romeo and Look Into The Fire In My Eyes weren’t on any of her output.

R72, Jane Wyman would call her Babylonia.

I am starting season 5 later today. Yesterday poor Lorraine died in the hospital. Cassandra Wilder got two thirds of Falcon Crest. Chase kissed Connie Giannini which drove Maggie right into Richard's arms - and on top of a bomb. Anne Archer as Cassandra is dull as a rock. Did anybody back then seriously believe that she can keep Falcon Crest?

I loved Carla Borelli as Connie. She was great on daytime too-she played horny rich bitches well.

One of the soaps (daytime or prime time) should have snapped her up for a long term role .

As a naive underage gayling in the 80s I was always fearful about Angela losing Falcon Crest. I seriously thought she could lose it to Cassandra or whoever was trying to take it from her that week. She made it what it was and she deserved all of it.

[quote]As a naive underage gayling in the 80s I was always fearful about Angela losing Falcon Crest. I seriously thought she could lose it to Cassandra or whoever was trying to take it from her that week. She made it what it was and she deserved all of it.

In all seriousness, R76, that's adorable.

Dare I ask what you dialed the phone with?

Instead of Diff’rent Strokes. Nancy Reagan should have done a recurring role on Falcon Crest, as Melissa’s stepmother, who is secretly a drug kingpin trying to gobble up Falcon Crest and the Agretti vineyards to use both to grow weed and move cocaine.

Nancy could’ve snorted coke off Lance’s speedo and said, “Mama Like,” while Angela came upon the scene in her poodle wig , with a disapproving look on her face, as Chao-Li gasps.

FreeVee isn't free.

Pluto is free.

I found Falcon Crest 2 nights ago when I was looking for a movie on FreeVee.

I LOVE FALCON CREST AND ANGELA CHANNING-Today is TCM day Carole Lombard!!

Summer Under the Stars-unless I don't like the person.

Sorry Angela but Saturday is Fred Astaire and Sunday is the Goddess, Miss Barbara Stanwyck.

My weekend is all Fred and Barbara, plus friends and the food, and of course, the animals (and Shaun too)

I caught the first episode on Prime. Satisfied that I don’t have to watch anymore of them.

R82 - Agreed. I always thought it was the worst of the "hit" primetime soaps of the 80s -- even if its ratings were often decent. But that was mainly due to having little competition for fraus on a Friday night, and having Dallas as a lead in.

While not "great" by any means, I enjoyed the failed soaps "Flamingo Road" and "Secrets of Midland Heights" better than Falcon Crap.

Like all the primetime soaps the first season is terrible. It statts getting interesting in season 2, with the arrival of Richard Channing.

Season 2 perks up with Carlo Agretti's murder, and the camp/vamp fest of Jane and Lana. And lots of Lorenzo in a bathing suit.

To me the show is all fun from season 2 to 6, from Carlo Aggretti's murder to Chase vanishing in the bay. After that it deteriorates rapidly with old writers fleeing the show in droves and no showrunner lasting beyond the season ending. It still has lots of highlights, but overall the seasons become quite grim and tedious.

Watching that pillowcase Anne Archer try to match Jane Wyman’s cuntery is fun camp, especially when Celeste Holm hobbles into Falcon Crest as Anne’s cunt mother.

There's only one thing that Nancy gobbled. It wasn't grapes.

Ken Olin was so hot when he was on Falcon Crest. Allegedly Jane Wyman had producers abandon his story line because she didn't want a priest leave the church. Not sure that's an urban myth though. Even the lead doesn't usually have enough clout to kill an already ongoing story line. But why else did they let him go? Clearly he was an asset to the show.

I’ve been watching the Apollonia episodes and Ken really did have quite a bubble butt.

Now it’s a fat yet saggy ass…

Lorenzo Lamas was threatened by Ken Olin, period. Olin detested the scripts, and said so publically, which probably made him Public Enemy no. 1 to Wyman.

Jane also put the kibosh on a lesbian relationship between the murderous Miss Jones and Richard’s nanny Meredith.

Miss Jones was a fun character-a murderous bimbo.

Tuscany Valley was also having a humongous death toll. There was hardly a character who left the valley alive.

R89 I agree. There could have been so many good storylines for him in addition to questioning tempted hot young social justice warrior priest.

A priest being tempted to leave the Church for a woman? What's next, a baby possessed by the Devil?

R61 Jane actually looks much prettier in that hair than the style she wore on the show.

Her Golden Globe acceptance speech is amusing but she doesn't thank anyone. And obviously gave it no thought beforehand.

I just learned that Chase Gioberti was originally cast as JR Ewing.

R99 - Was Patty Duke the first choice for Sue Ellen?

R99 Mary Frann was!

Funny that both of them went on to other primetime soaps. Frann played the long-suffering house frau on the short-lived "King's Crossing" before she moved to Vermont and married her father.

I am currently watching the fifth season, the one with Morgan Fairchild. I once read that Fairchild left after one season because she didn't find her role very challenging and wanted her to be a more central character than it was. I call b/s on that. I am guessing she was let go. She was actually quite effective in her one season. Fairchild's acting was pretty good, imo.

It's also Terry's last season. Allegedly, she was fired/laid off and didn't leave voluntarily. She was asked if she wanted to stay on for the first six episodes of the following season, but she declined. Bad mistake. Since she didn't want to come back for this episodes, they had her to kill off in the earthquake. Otherwise she could have come back at a later time.

Terry and Greg should have stayed on the show. I liked both of them.

I’d rather have another season of them , and Cole, than annoying Vicky 2.

At the time Laura Johnson was killed off as Terry, her then real life husband Harry Hamlin was about to star in L.A. Law, and stupid FC could have benefited from the p.r. of their blonde bitch being married to him. Apparently to lure Hamlin, they offered the part of Grace to Laura Johnson, but Hamlin (wisely as it turned out) didn't think that was a great idea, and Susan Dey waltzed right in. But yes, killing off Terry was very stupid.

I find FreeVee lacking. It certainly doesn't carry OUR show.

I’m watching season five for Apollonia and I have two more episodes to go before I’ve watched all of her episodes (haven’t seen them in years). A pleasant surprise in these episodes is buff hottie Daniel Greene, who is as big as an ox and has an ass that I would feast on for hours.

In the show he is clearly just a plot device. But yeah, he looks great. And Dwayne is exactly who we all wanted for poor Emma.

I thought Terri had run her course. She was pretty one dimensional. I liked the character and her acting but her best if used by date expired at some point. I'm starting to watch Dallas. Why doesn't Freevee have season one?

[quote] I'm starting to watch Dallas. Why doesn't Freevee have season one?

Because that bitch Tina Louise refuses to sign off on their using her image.

Miss Jones has just been brought on to the show. She and Richard are the perfect match from hell - for everybody else.

What is Ms. Jones' first name?

Erin. But for some reason Richard (and everybody else) only called her Miss Jones.

R113 - Did she have the devil inside her, or were those just the long, manicured fingers of Chao-Li

The Ewings were the trashiest. The Gioberti Channings the classiest. The Carrington the most ostentatious. The cul de sac the most domestic.

[quote] The Gioberti Channings the classiest.

Angela Channing was downright regal.

The Ewings, sitting down in formal clothing, in a formal dining room, drinking red wine out of crystal goblets, eating Miss Ellie’s world famous….chili.

And you just know Jock Ewing was involved in the JFK assassination.

LOL R117. They should have had the Kristin did it reveal, on the Grassy Knoll.

What I always found funny about the Ewings at Southranch is how often they ate breakfast outside by the pool. There's a fucking horse corral not 50 feet away... ain't nobody gonna have an appetite smelling that. They probably all assumed it was Pam's gas from Miss Ellie's world-famous chili con huevos.

And in general, these soap families (especially the Ewings and the Carringtons) had more money than the Pope and yet insisted on all living inside the same God damn house when they hated each other's guts. Gary was the only one with any sense having moved FAR away.

Poor Sue Ellen had to drive a station wagon early on, while Pam, Bobby, Lucy and JR all drove luxury/or sports cars with personalized plates. Guess Sue Ellen did the marketing for Theresa, then picked up the girls for the Daughters of the Alamo meeting.

Sue Ellen was not a main character in the miniseries-she’s not in the credits.

In the pilot she drives up in the wagon with Miss Ellie and Lucy.

I always assumed the wagon was Miss Ellie’s, not Sue Ellen’s, which is why the license plate is Ewing 2.

R121 - Oh darlin', is was Sue Ellen's car and that's not what the #2 meant.