New York City - What is it like in 2023

Rent - high. Landlords warehousing apartments to keep the prices up. Entertainment - back to what it used to be in quality/quantity. Not as lucrative because boomers are staying home. Tourists are coming back but not from China and that does hurt the economy somewhat.

Heroin users are being encouraged

Back to the Future

Box office for most Broadway shows last week wilted a bit as June’s Tony glow gave way to plain old New York summer heat, though a couple newcomers were among the handful bucking the downward trend, one very impressively so.

Racist mayor.

Saturday nights are filled with excitement.

Knives Out

Knives Out

A walk in the park 2023

Plenty of available office space available but not enough shelters

The wild, wild west

The tourism is basically back to pre-pandemic levels. However many companies still have their office workers either working remotely or doing a hybrid of 2-3 days a week from the office. This significant drop of in-person office workers has had a big impact on many of the local business who for decades relied on the business crowd as their steady customers.

-Many streets and neighborhoods feel MT and not just due to people being away for the summer.

-The restaurants along 7th Avenue south are empty as is 8th Ave in Chelsea.

- Many businesses are boarded up as there isn't enough foot traffic.

-Douglas Elliman for lease signs are everywhere.

-Times Square seems to be busy with tourists

Overrun with RATS

The cranes are flying. What goes up must come down.

So the East Side Sauna made it through the pandemic (NYC's only remaining gay bathhouse?) The West Side Sauna did shutter for good a couple years ago?

Are those Turkish, or is it Russian, steam baths still open? Some had gay action?

It's hard to make a living especially for small business owners, MTA workers and cabbies

Crime victims are youger than ever

Rich Park Slopers love this stuff, R17. Likely the mother of those girls is reassuring them that they asked for it by being privileged, and that they should hope the attacker is not caught, because that would just compound the systemic injustice that they are all guilty of.

They deserved it.

They're all pretty much dead and were even before the pandemic. Dick's in the EV is apparently still a thing though.

There seem to be more pigeons on the Upper West Side and they’re even more stupid now than they’ve ever been. I saw a bunch get mowed down by a car last night because some wouldn’t fly out of the way fast enough. I wonder if the ones who consistently fed them are dying off. I would think the wildfire smoke from Canada is affecting them and a lot will end up dead from ingesting it over time.

[Quote] So the East Side Sauna made it through the pandemic (NYC's only remaining gay bathhouse?) The West Side Sauna did shutter for good a couple years ago? Are those Turkish, or is it Russian, steam baths still open? Some had gay action?

They're all pretty much dead R15 and were even before the pandemic. Dick's in the EV is apparently still a thing though.

All of the storefronts that were empty during Covid are now smoke shops.

So many restaurants and chains are leaving/closing

"Three years after New York’s first indoor dining shutdown, restaurants continue to close due to the lasting financial impacts of the pandemic. At least 4,500 food businesses have shuttered since March 2020. Since it’s difficult to track closings in real-time, experts say that number is likely much higher — and could take years to fully assess."

Can anyone compare its safety compared to Chicago? I’ve heard by some measures it’s safer in NYC, but that stuff gets skewed depending on who’s pushing the argument.

Not possible R25 as both cities like Philly have become so violent.

Just doing my job

"An NYPD traffic agent was pummeled in Hell's Kitchen on Thursday afternoon by an attacker who remained at large Friday, police said. The traffic agent was on duty near W. 47th Street and 11th Avenue at 3:20 p.m. when someone walked up and punched him repeatedly, according to police."

Tourists: Who needs 'em?

I'm glad the city was able to arrange to use the Roosevelt Hotel which was shuttered in 2021 after almost 100 years.

Some businesses are booming

Lots of crazy people walking the streets

Lots of people sleeping on the sidewalk

Violence is more random and pervasive

It has its UPS and downs

it's becoming more and more like Jules Feiffer's Little Murders

'NY is the safest big city in America'-Eric Adams 7-31-23

comforting to know that

Bad things happen in 'good' neighborhoods.

On the bright side, I've seen some of the hottest young cops on the streets. The thick New York accents makes them even hotter.

^ hawt

Chaotic

R37, Midtown is a "good neighborhood"? Oh, dear...

WAS!

Wait! I thought Chicago was worse!

🙄

There has always been crime and there always will be. Get over yourselves.

[Quote]There has always been crime and there always will be.

Now there's an original thought.

Thank you DLers for filling me in on local news broadcasts, which, like most educated sane people, I would never watch

it's national news, hon!

It’s fine OP. The rents are horribly high, but beyond that - whatever. Some dumb kids crowded Union square today for free PlayStations and the NYPD broke it up and no one was injured. I’m on the subway now to go down there to see a movie. Everything is running normally and everyone is quiet and on their phones.

I’ve lived here for 21 years. Including during the pandemic. I’ll never understand the posters anywho love to shit on NYC and pretend like it’s some post apocalyptic war zone 🙄

Totally fine here. There's 9 million people here so there's going to be bad shit that happens (not to minimize it for the prime affected) but I've been here all my life and this city is NOT a dangerous place. At least no more dangerous than any other major city as long as you don't act like an idiot, stumble around drunk, or start problems yourself.

[Quote] s you don't act like an idiot, stumble around drunk, or start problems yourself.

ever hear of random, unprovoked attacks R48?

R40 R46 That would explain why all the subway lines had significant disruptions and delays for this evenings rush all attributed to police activity at Union Square.

it's not the first time R50

[quote]I’ve lived here for 21 years. Including during the pandemic. I’ll never understand the posters anywho love to shit on NYC and pretend like it’s some post apocalyptic war zone 🙄

It's the same thing re London, where I live - the rest of the country seem to think it's like living in Armageddon.

It's really rather de rigueur R50

[Quote] I’ve lived here for 21 years. Including during the pandemic. I’ll never understand the posters anywho love to shit on NYC and pretend like it’s some post apocalyptic war zone 🙄

more like a third world country I'd say

[Quote] I’ve lived here for 21 years. Including during the pandemic.

looking back the pandemic was a halcyon period for NYC. The streets were quiet, clean and uncrowded. There was so little vehicular traffic you could bike ride on 14th Street like it was Central Park. Parking was no problem and crime was practically non existent and the subways were finally cleaned.

R55 You are omitting the fact that during the pandemic lockdown more people became homeless and a lot of them were tasking over the public spaces and subways.

They gave away free stuff at Union Square.

[quote] looking back the pandemic was a halcyon period for NYC. The streets were quiet, clean and uncrowded. There was so little vehicular traffic you could bike ride on 14th Street like it was Central Park. Parking was no problem and crime was practically non existent and the subways were finally cleaned.

Just don't pay attention to all those pesky corpses piling up in the morgues!

R58 I felt safer on the street then than now. It was indoors and on subways and elevators where Covid was most likely to spread. And for a period the subways were closed at midnight and no one including the homeless were' tasking' over the subways R56

and don't forget how the Emmy-winning "COVID Governor" mishandled resources

(^.^)

[Quote] You are omitting the fact that during the pandemic lockdown more people became homeless and a lot of them were tasking over the public spaces and subways

I think your forgetting something R56

and don't forget The Lucerne one of several hotels used as homeless shelters

[quote]and don't forget The Lucerne one of several hotels used as homeless shelters

Are you kidding? Us gurls had plenty to say about it.

the gurls on the UWS and Hell's Kitchen certainly had a lot to say

[Quote] as long as you don't act like an idiot, stumble around drunk, or start problems yourself.

and as long as your not Asian

(^.^) you're not Asian

OP Posting from Mee Maw's basement in Mound La. yet again.

“New York City is definitely deteriorating, the quality of life and the quality of services,” said Paulson, who’s still a city resident. "

When the wealthy have had it with NYC . . .

[quote]“I talked to 22-23 people that moved to Florida,” said Howard Lorber, chairman of Douglas Elliman Realty. “Every one of them had a big apartment or a townhouse in New York — and not one of them sold. So I have a view that New York City is going to become the number one second-home market to the world.”

So that's the problem with Florida. Too many fucking New York transplants!

New Yorkers are still pushy.

Right now, up to an estimated 1,000 migrants arrive in New York City every day. Officials say the shelter system is becoming overwhelmed and resources are running thin.

Alone in a new country with young children and no access to work, migrant mothers told CBS News they're worried about the food available for their families in the New York City shelters. CBS News

on its way to becoming a third world country. A small population of extreme wealth along with . . .

I live in NYC and it's a fucking shithole. Born and raised here and can't wait to leave. It happened so fast too. It was tolerable before Covid but not anymore. Sat away.

No permits or background checks needed to carry knives

seems like there's no time between crimes

Flyover queen thread.

One of the most extraordinary places to live on earth. Remains one of the hotbeds of human talent, creativity, and vital human behavior. It’s not for the weak minded or timid hearted. It’s a ways changing and evolving. In general it’s pretty tolerant and open- live and let live. I think I am lucky as hell to live in NYC- never take it for granted. It’s also a tough place to live economically- it’s biggest limitation.

[Quote] Remains one of the hotbeds of human talent, creativity, and vital human behavior.

Was I'm afraid.

Where today in NY is the equivalent of Warhol, Spike Lee, Basquiat, Lichtenstein, Donna Karan, Fran Lebowitz, Tommy Hilfiger, Candace Bushnell, Mapplethorpe, John Patrick Shanley, Scorsese, Neil Simon, Woody Allen, Mel Brooks, Vera Wang, Keith Haring . . .

Few artists exist in Manhattan today. The primary reason for all the past creativity was that people from all over the US would come to NYC; writers, artists, musicians, designers, etc.; all reside in neighborhoods where they could afford and congregate amongst themselves organically. All of that was basically eliminated because of the undue money and corporate influence of the mayors Giuliani and Bloomberg which changed the zoning and brought in venture capitalists that made almost every neighborhood unaffordable at a breakneck pace. Gentrification always existed in NYC but the changes were natural, today they are by unmatchable corporate forces, causing hyper gentrification.

[quote]Flyover queen thread.

Seems like most of the responses are coming from New Yorkers.

[quote]It’s also a tough place to live economically- it’s biggest limitation.

After the challenges of grammar.

[quote]Flyover queen thread.

[quote]Seems like most of the responses are coming from New Yorkers.—truth hurts?

You're both incorrect, r80 and r76. If you ignoredar r78, you'll find that almost 50 posts, well over half of this thread, come from the same poster, red-lined troll brandonjoseph, who also used to proudly sign as FormerNewYorker. He claims to live in Weehawken.

He almost always shows up in NYC related threads, posting the most gruesome NY Post articles that he can find. Occasionally he will post about his youth in the East Village. He's also fond of childish insults, some of which will surely follow this post.

Where else have you lived R77?

Bwahahaha!

Beware, r77. R83 is also FormerNewYorker. Know that before you go down that rabbit hole.

Agree with r77. Very happy to live here. Wish the rent wasn’t so high, but apparently that’s an issue all over the country.

Will never understand the DL fascination with hating on NYC.

R85 people hate what NY has become

R86 is FormerNewYorker again, r85.

He has now formally posted at least 50 out of 86 posts on this thread. If we all stop responding to him, he will probably revert to posting back to back crime posts to himself, as is his wont.

It's a beautiful day in NYC. I'm off to enjoy it. I hope you all have a great Labor day!

R86. Just because you have no money? No job skills ? (Doubt you have a career. So job) it isn’t violence that flung you out. Drugs over rent? Do tell.

[quote]Will never understand the DL fascination with hating on NYC.

There isn't, r85, only trolls here to bash big cities in blue states.

R88 You are onto something regarding drugs

and the violence

R88 why aren't you out enjoying the beautiful day in NY? What keeps you inside?

Perhaps it's the rats

R88 Perhaps it's a preference for a cleaner, greener, safer, less crowded, quieter, friendlier environment without homeless and mentally ill people wandering around

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CNBC Young, rich workers are fleeing New York and California—here's where they're going Story by Jennifer Liu •

New Yorkers have had more than enough

This recently uploaded video, 'The Truth About NYC That Nobody Talks About' , from a NYC native who goes by the moniker Joey the Gypsy and who now lives in Clearwater Fl, discusses a lot about what's wrong with the city now.

All of the assholes reared in NYC eventually move to Florida.

Concentrate on people!

I was invited by a (MAGA) neighbor to an anti-immigrant protest this coming Thursday. They're setting up some housing near here at Floyd Bennett field for them. It's a huge former airfield which is now federal parkland. I doubt the migrants are going to like it since it's in the middle of nowhere and I don't think there's any buses running in or out. No, I'm not going to the protest.

The rat problem in NYC is due to the failure of the sanitation dept to pick up the trash in a timely manner during the pandemic. Sometimes they would skip pick-up date altogether and all the trash on the block would have to wait for the next pickup 4 days later.

New Yorkers — including huge majorities of Democrats, Republicans, independents, upstaters and downstaters — overwhelmingly say that the recent influx of migrants to New York is a serious problem for the state,” said Siena College pollster Steven Greenberg.

“However,” he said, “that’s where partisan agreement ends. A plurality of Democrats says that migrants resettling in New York over the last two decades has been a benefit. But a majority of independents and two-thirds of Republicans say that migrant resettlement has been a burden to the state.”

In a recent survey, 82% of New York voters said the migrant influx was serious and 54% called it very serious.

Tensions are rising between the New York City mayor’s office and the state and federal governments over how to handle more than 58,000 asylum-seekers now in the city’s care, as the Biden administration resists a quick fix proposed by the state and city.

Now we know why they don't talk about it R97

I am coming back to NYC in October after a short visit in July. Going to the ballet, opera, and Broadway, and visiting French Consulate.

[quote]New Yorkers have had more than enough

Oh honey. Racist LI guidos organized by batshit-crazy Curtis Sliwa aren't New Yorkers.

Says you honey!

Someone finally listened

The Upper West Side of Manhattan is getting its first two noise cameras following tens of thousands of noise complaints just this year, alone. The cameras will target car and truck noise specifically and hefty fines will be the consequence.

Was going to visit this Fall. No thanks. I'll go to the Blue Ridge Mountains instead.

(^.^) and miss an opportunity to see Shucked!

R110, Shucked was funny not not that great. The second half dragged.

Some Like It Hotnwasnthenbest I've seen this year.

Not R109.

New York City - It's like 2022 again, but different.

Nice to see there are still some hot guys in NYC but . . .

[Quote] New York City - It's like 2022 again, but different.

Yeah, it's a year older

A 120 year old water main pipe. Isn't anything built to last anymore?!

[Quote] Isn't anything built to last anymore?!

Apparently not.

Citizens resort to smoking pot in public and interfering with major events. It must be the only way they can cope with living in the city.

Walk along 8th Avenue in midtown between 14th and 32nd street and while many businesses are shuttered weed shops are popping up on every block. The governor promises to crack down on illegal shops, but the city has more serious problems.

Not everyone is using a pipe for smoking

New Yorkers helped Biden get elected

The New York mayor and governor have asked for increased federal support to handle migrants in the state. Now in the first response, Biden administration officials are putting the responsibility back on the city and state. CBS News immigration reporter Camilo Montoya-Galvez explains the proposed solutions.

It's where people come to die

Was the Vessel at Hudson Yards closed?

Do look up

Leaping from tall buildings has become a trend

The new normal.

(^.^) and this is why it has become so common

Pushing strangers onto the subway tracks has become an unfortunate trend

Between assaults, the homeless and migrants it seems to be headed for a derailment

Urban decay

I left NYC for two years but nothing has changed me now I’ve been back for a year. I take the subway to and from work everyday and don’t feel unsafe. I’ve seen some good theater. Joined a papering service and seen some great stuff for $4.50 / ticket. I’ve seen BTTF: The Musical twice by lottery and love it. And my dog loves it here. We have a very dog friendly neighborhood.

changed FOR me

The NYPD abandoned the subway system even before the pandemic lockdown. They only make their occasional cameo appearances when there is a major incident like a death. I ride the subway every day. I can count the fingers on my one hand of how many times I have seen an actual police officer on a train in the last 3 years.

My colleagues who travel to work by subway are concerned and say they feel unsafe which is understandable since random unprovoked attacks have become so common. When I lived in NY (88-2006] I would take the subway at night to Brooklyn to see my friends or go to BAM but I wouldn't do that now. There also seems to be an increase in vehicular accidents involving pedestrians and there are so many more Citi bikes, E-bikes and scooters on the streets that never yield to pedestrians.

Having more cyclists in NYC was a good idea, but the electric scooters and mopeds are a clear danger to pedestrians because they are not regulated and the drivers are reckless. I still ride the subway almost daily and never had a real issue.

I commute to work by subway daily. I see police on the platforms very often (this is in Manhattan below 125th street though). I feel safe commuting by subway. I wouldn’t take the subway after 10pm though.

There’s been a marked increase of Citi Bike and e-scooter collisions since 2006 when, incidentally, Citi Bikes and e-scooters didn’t exist.

I watched a thing recently on Instagram where an ICU nurse was saying that those scooters are so fucking dangerous and landing so many people in the hospital with extremely serious injuries. She said young people are coming to the ICU with spinal cord injuries and traumatic brain injuries because of scooter accidents. A ton of nurses commented on the post saying they are seeing the exact same thing and the scooters should be outlawed.

They are terrible. And none of these fools have helmets on when they are flying around on them.

I used to live in New York City

Everything there was dark and dirty

Outside my window was a steeple

With a clock that always said twelve-thirty

R130 you may be in the same sea but you're not in the same boat

[Quote] There’s been a marked increase of Citi Bike and e-scooter collisions since 2006 when, incidentally, Citi Bikes and e-scooters didn’t exist.

Police marveled at the brazenness - the outright disregard for humanity at the center of a beef between members of rival gangs in broad daylight.

Assaults on cops are not really a big deal anymore. Body cam shows the man break the POs nose

R142 It's shit like this that emboldens criminals to act with impunity.

Good for the environment but at what cost? I notice that cyclists very often don't use the bike lanes and when they do, they often ignore the directional arrows in the lane.

Too many various vehicles on the road and too little regulation. For one thing cyclists should be required to have lights on their bikes.

PS according to ABC 7 the bike driver was going in the wrong direction not unlike NYC

Though it's still one of the safest large cities the assaults are so hit or miss and senseless and occur in all Manhattan neighborhoods

No city for old men

This is what the once touted Greatest City in the World has become

The streets are more dangerous than I ever remember

about time. Pedestrians and drivers hate bike riders. They never stop, ride in all directions, are unregulated and not held accountable.

I love NYC and I’ve forever known it’s not the cleanest city in the world, and that’s just part of living here. However, I’ve noticed most recently, as I’m fostering a dog new to the city, that the amount of trash left on the street is more horrifying than in the last ten years. I am hyper vigilant walking the dog, not on my phone, keeping a short leash, and I’ve still had to pry THREE chicken wing bones from his mouth in the last 24 hrs. Because of this additional hyper awareness now that a dog is in my care - chicken wing bones, cigarette butts and joints galore, used drug needles, dirty clothes, garbage and more garbage, remnants of food everywhere. What’s worse is I actually am talking about an area LINED with garbage cans. I am sorry if I’m ranting but this is disgusting and poses such a danger to pets and children, and really people in general. There are people with mental illness and addiction problems vomiting and bleeding and overdosing on a daily basis right in front of my apartment - on the one hand, it is so much worse than I have seen it in the past ten years as a safety and sanitation issue, but on the other hand, who is helping these people running up and down the streets in bare feet with open wounds barely conscious of their own safety??? Are we really doing anything to make things better around here? Sorry, I am so frustrated. My parents are both city kids so I’m no stranger to this. But you’d think we’d have figured something out by now. Do we keep sitting around saying that’s the way it is or do we actually somewhere start doing something? And I don’t want to hear some snarky comment like, keep voting democrat. Politics are a joke, I don’t care who you support. We need to stop supporting corrupt politicians at some point who don’t care about anything except getting in and staying in office and come together as a community and take matters into our own hands, because politicians don’t live the lives we live and see what we see. Find me a politician who travels without security and takes the subway everyday and sees what we see and I’ll give ‘em my vote.

unhinged people are everywhere

everything has become weaponized.

Don't worry. These assailants will be out the next day.

NYers seem more easily provoked than ever

NYers are dropping like flies

The subways seem cursed

It's still one of the safest big cities in the US

R2 Is that a Subway ad, or a subway ad?

This is a subway. Enter at your own peril.

CBS New York Police seek woman accused of kicking subway rider in face, hurling racial slurs in Queens

It's quickly losing its edge. So much vacant office space that will probably be turned into apartments for migrants.

City of hate and bigotry.

So much for blue states

It's been going on for years

No neighborhood seems 'safe' anymore

NYC is an equal opportunity town, with a genuine concern with diversity - which group do we hate this month?

Chicago is a better “big city” with hotter gay men.

Trick or Treat

East Side West Side assaults are all around town

MANHATTAN, N.Y. (PIX11) — A woman briefly blacked out after being strangled from behind on a Manhattan street, according to the NYPD.

The victim, 29, was walking near Houston Street and Avenue D in the East Village when a man came up from behind and strangled her at around 4:10 a.m. on Oct. 22, police said.

Walking around at 4 AM on Avenue D?

I recall us locals had the following thoughts on where you are in Alphabet City on the Lower East Side:

Avenue A, you're Okay Avenue B, you're Brave Avenue C, you're Crazy Avenue D, you're Dead.

The city is filled with tens of thousands of extra tourists right now—family groups, here to enjoy the sites ahead of their family member(s) running in Sunday’s marathon. It’s a great vibe.

During the pandemic the empty Midtown Manhattan streets were eerie and sad. But this year tourism appears to be back to pre-pandemic numbers. The last two weeks it's a nuisance trying to walk around with so many tourist around, and this is before the holiday spike, which is from Thanksgiving week to New Years week.

So, R173, do what New Yorkers do to display welcome - stab them.

Wow —that’s flyover quality humor. How about something actually funny, is that too much to ask?

From you I’d say yes.

I've lived in NYC for 28 years. I love it. I live on a rather nice block in midtown and have not noticed any uptick in crime. No one's throwing up in front of my building. I also have a dog and she loves it here. She knows where she lives. Twice, while walking her, she has slipped out of her leash blocks away from home but there was nothing to worry about. She ran right home and waited for the doorman. No joke. No problems with aforementioned chicken wing bones. I also take the subway to and from work everyday and haven't witnessed any crime.

I'd be more scared working as a teacher in Omaha or Little Rock.

Oh I forgot to mention the marathon. It's a fun week in town. I've run it twice and will be cheering on a friend this year. It's a blast.

and I don't know anyone who died from COVID and I never got sick, but I was still concerned, aware and cautious. R176

R175. I guess truth hurts, but not as much as getting sucker-punched, stabbed, or shot.

a sign of the times

Getting ready for the 2023 marathon

much ado about nothing. it's saint louis, Memphis and Peoria that are rotting from the inside out

no one needs to worry about NYC

[Quote] I'd be more scared working as a teacher in Omaha or Little Rock.

or being a high school student in NY

The Blackboard Jungle 2023

Straphanger Shoved onto Tracks in Random NYC Subway Attack, Police Say

This is why my coworkers who take the subway to midtown feel unsafe.

R176 is probably not an MTA worker

Do you post this shit everywhere 24-7? Maybe YOU are the crime source.

Not me R188 I swear!

Wasn't anywhere near Brooklyn. I have witnesses R188

I work at 28th and Madison but no it's not me.

Wasn't in NY on Sunday R188

Zzzz zzzz

Get some rest, or help.

Get 8 hours sleep R193 Thanks. You sound easily triggered. You must be a New Yorker.

I noticed the last two weeks that the tourist crowd numbers are what one normally sees during the holiday season. Can anyone help explain this phenomena?

[quote]Do you post this shit everywhere 24-7? Maybe YOU are the crime source.

[quote]Get some rest, or help.

It's a poster known as FormerNewYorker, r188 and r193. Yes, he posts a LOT, mostly about crime in NYC. Lives in Weehawken, yearns for his youth in the East Village in the 80s-90s. Since he can't have that, he vilifies the NYC of today.

In some older threads, he has been known to post up to 40 posts back to back. Repetitive, full of childish insults. "Meth, methinks" is a common phrase. "You sound easily triggered. You must be a New Yorker" is another

No one ever posts NYC threads anymore, because he will rush to infest it. I haven't bothered, but if you ignoredar him, I'd bet that 50 to 30% of this thread is his. Possibly more. It's an obsession.

He used to be authenticated as brandonjoseph before he got redlined as a troll.

Yep. Just checked.

Former New Yorker aka FNY aka Brandonjoseph has posted 114 times in this thread - well over half of it - and that isn't counting any other devices that he might be using.

It's an illness. Too bad. I'd love to post about goings on in NYC, but he makes it impossible.

He posts so often that blocking him slows scrolling down to a crawl - and I don't block posters anyway - so I just avoid NYC threads.

[Quote] I noticed the last two weeks that the tourist crowd numbers are what one normally sees during the holiday season. Can anyone help explain this phenomena?

Maybe they were migrants, protestors people here for the marathon or commuters . . . How did you know they were tourists?

Trust me, as a New Yorker, I know who is a tourist on sight 90% of the times.

Sorry I don't trust New Yorkers

Another pedestrian killed by 2 vehicles. WTF!

I wonder how the creep knew they were lesbians?

City of hate!

r203 = loser

(^.^) that term could apply to New Yorkers as the city is in decline and doesn't take care of its own

New Yorkers here's the real problem. Consider yourself warned.

[Quote] He almost always shows up in NYC related threads, posting the most gruesome NY Post articles that he can find. Occasionally he will post about his youth in the East Village. He's also fond of childish insults, some of which will surely follow this post.

[Quote] Beware, r77. R83 is also FormerNewYorker. Know that before you go down that rabbit hole.

[Quote] He has now formally posted at least 50 out of 86 posts on this thread. If we all stop responding to him, he will probably revert to posting back to back crime posts to himself, as is his wont.

[Quote] It's a poster known as FormerNewYorker, r188 and r193. Yes, he posts a LOT, mostly about crime in NYC. Lives in Weehawken, yearns for his youth in the East Village in the 80s-90s. Since he can't have that, he vilifies the NYC of today.

[Quote] In some older threads, he has been known to post up to 40 posts back to back. Repetitive, full of childish insults. "Meth, methinks" is a common phrase. "You sound easily triggered. You must be a New Yorker" is another

[Quote] No one ever posts NYC threads anymore, because he will rush to infest it. I haven't bothered, but if you ignoredar him, I'd bet that 50 to 30% of this thread is his. Possibly more. It's an obsession.

[Quote] Former New Yorker aka FNY aka Brandonjoseph has posted 114 times in this thread - well over half of it - and that isn't counting any other devices that he might be using.

Areas of the city still feel empty post Covid. Businesses that relied on commuters are hurting.

A researcher for the study suggested the societal shift to remote office work has caused a dramatic drop in foot traffic in Gotham’s business districts.

The rise of vicious unprovoked attacks may also factor into the decrease of foot traffic in NY

All of the mentally ill need to be shipped to a deserted island. Survival of the craziest.

(^.^) sounds like a good premise for a reality TV show.

[quote]All of the mentally ill need to be shipped to a deserted island.

If that were done, how many people would be left in the city?

Good news. They don't share the road or follow the rules of the road.

Death Wish 2023

Good for bystander. Too bad he missed

R179- First of all, two of my close friends died of COVID and I got COVID as well. The death per capita by COVID is a lot higher than death per capita in NYC which is very low.

R184- That was one kid slashing one other kid. The teacher wasn't harmed. There has never been a mass shooting at a school in NYC.

I meant crime per capita in NYC.

Quote] That was one kid slashing one other kid. The teacher wasn't harmed. There has never been a mass shooting at a school in NYC.

The man was randomly stabbed with the tool twice – in the head and face – while seated on a southbound 1 train around 9:40 p.m. at the 59th Street-Columbus Circle subway station, authorities said.

stay in school and avoid he subways, I guess.

[Quote] First of all, two of my close friends died of COVID and I got COVID as well. The death per capita by COVID is a lot higher than death per capita in NYC which is very low.

Nonetheless take caution when walking as hit and runs abound.

I ride from and to the 59th Street-Columbus station every single day and haven't even witnessed anything like this. Not scared to ride the subway at all.

[Quote] That was one kid slashing one other kid. The teacher wasn't harmed. There has never been a mass shooting at a school in NYC.

In a New York minute.

My theory is that you have to act crazier than the crazies, and then they'll leave you alone.

[Quote] I ride from and to the 59th Street-Columbus station every single day and haven't even witnessed anything like this. Not scared to ride the subway at all.

and I never got Covid but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. What's your point? It only happens to others?

Maybe I do, r221.

r218- Do they? How many people out of the 8-10 million people in NYC at any given time get hit? Seems VERY rare to me.

The vigilante arrested for opening fire during a robbery attempt in a Manhattan subway station yelled “Get away from her!” at the would-be mugger — just before he pulled a pistol from his backpack and sent a couple rounds flying down the platform, sources said Thursday.

[Quote] Seems VERY rare to me.

Define 'very rare'

You're talking to the obsessed FormerNewYorker, r224. Posting crime stats is most of what he does. He has posted 130 times in this thread.

Well over half of the thread.

You won't get any reasonable conversation out of him.

[Quote] First of all, two of my close friends died of COVID and I got COVID as well.

I don't know anyone who died from Covid so I guess it's rare.

Another vehicular fatality in Manhattan.

The electric scooters and mopeds in NY have grown out of control these last 5 or so years. I don't know if the accident was the SUV's fault of the teen's fault, but they have become a serious hazard. When I walk on the sidewalk or cross the street my biggest concern for my safety isn't cars, it's scooters and mopeds.

(^.^) See R212 What are the rules of the road for scooters, mopeds and bikes? It's not at all clear.

Welcome to Manhattan's newest neighborhood Manhattan West.

R232 I find that location totally soul sucking.

it's actually a good location situated between 9th and 10th Avenue one block west of Penn Station and Madison Square Garden and just north of Chelsea. It's much more conveniently located than Hudson Yards which is further west and not near anything.

Manhattan's first beech:

Gansevoort Peninsula, a 5.5-acre park between Gansevoort Street and Little West 12th Street in the Meatpacking District, opened last month. It's a public beach, sports field, an ecological salt marsh, a dog run, a boardwalk, manicured lawns and a beachfront landing for non-motorized boats. The project took about two years and cost $73 million.

Gansevoort Peninsula in the Meatpacking District of Manhattan has been transformed from a landfill into a 5.5-acre park, complete with a sports field, a salt marsh, a dog run, a boardwalk, manicured lawns, and Manhattan's first public beach.

beach (^.^)

It’s not a new neighborhood numnut. It’s just a different developer—i.e., not Related. It is contiguous to Hudson Yards. You people believe anything from some dumb PR story.

of course, it's not a new neighborhood; it's a new development situated behind the post office. I remember when it was largely a parking lot at 33rd and 9th Who said it was a new neighborhood R237

Why so angry R237?

Nothing new about subway violence

R238 see R232 👀

[Quote] There’s been a marked increase of Citi Bike and e-scooter collisions since 2006 when, incidentally, Citi Bikes and e-scooters didn’t exist.

R136 you didn't read my post correctly. I used 2006 as a timeline of when I lived in NY not as a timeline for the increase in collisions.

[Quote] My colleagues who travel to work by subway are concerned and say they feel unsafe which is understandable since random unprovoked attacks have become so common. When I lived in NY (88-2006] I would take the subway at night to Brooklyn to see my friends or go to BAM but I wouldn't do that now. There also seems to be an increase in vehicular accidents involving pedestrians and there are so many more Citi bikes, E-bikes and scooters on the streets that never yield to pedestrians.

What a pussy R242 the sud way? At night! I might die—

Not just at night

those bikes will get you one way or another

As of Nov. 20, the city Fire Department had recorded 243 fires, 124 injuries and 17 deaths so far this year related to the highly flammable lithium-ion batteries, the Daily News previously reported.

Ban all bicycles. Bicyclists are assholes.

Teens are frequently victims

- A 14-year-old boy was stabbed in the neck on a busy Bronx street corner.

13-year-old dragged by car

Two teen boys were hurt in stabbings in the Big Apple Friday — with one attacked during a violent Staten Island robbery and the other knifed twice in Queens, authorities said.

A teenager was shot multiple times in a broad-daylight Bronx attack Monday – one of at least three bursts of gun violence in the span of 15 hours in the Big Apple, authorities said.

Deliberately caused fires in the subway system, some reports claim this was by pro-H demonstrators. Happened on Christmas Eve in Brooklyn.

E bike batteries are very flammable, throwing them on the 3rd rail is something I hope does not become a thing.

Defacto is proving he knows how to google. Meanwhile NYC continues to be the safest large city in the country.

And meanwhile Defacto’s own hometown Pittsburgh still has a crime rate comparable to Chicago — the rates between the two are almost identical — see ranking below.

But Defacto, perma-lying rightwinger (and indeed is there any other kind?) is posting links to suggest otherwise. But the facts don’t lie. New York is barely even on the list, ranked 96 out of 100. Pittsburgh? 62. 😱

but is it safe, safe?

Those nutjobs on the trains could be just like him.

The suspect is known to both MTA police and NYPD as an emotionally disturbed person with 17 prior arrests.

Hutcherson was arrested twice in the last six months. The latest arrest came just last month after Hutcherson threatened someone with a knife.

[Quote] Those nutjobs on the trains could be just like him.

[Quote] Those nutjobs on the trains could be just like him.

Gives new meaning to 'drive by'

The demographics are changing rapidly

More than 7,000 asylum seekers have arrived in New York City in last 2 weeks, mayor's office says

2024 gets off to an inauspicious start

2024 same old same old

after the ball drops

more bad news for The Color Purple

not such a Happy New Year

Rent!?! Are we children?

Shaky start to the New Year

1.7 is close to nothing as far as earthquakes go.

but on Roosevelt Island where the buildings are not built to seismic or earthquake code it was strongly felt and as the saying goes "Earthquakes don't kill people-buildings do" Residents said it felt like a series of small explosions and was felt from Astoria to Roosevelt Island. 911 calls flooded dispatchers with reports of a boom and buildings rocking. A resident of Roosevelt Island said it was so strong that her husband fell out of bed.

Police say a 29-year-old man was stabbed in the neck on a subway platform in the Bronx on New Year's Day.

This is wild

[quote] Post Pandemic comparisons. Rent, entertainment, tourists?

Lived in NYC for twenty years now. I've been in a rent- stabilized decent apartment in a multi-unit building in Astoria for the last ten years, so my rent has not increased much more than a few percentage points the last few years. That said every day I see another building being demolished. They're mostly older decrepit standalone houses and are being replaced by these awful ugly monstrosities that look like Soviet prisons. They are all luxury housing but no one seems to be moving in. They are insanely expensive and cheaply built. If I left my current apartment I think I would have a very hard time finding something comparable.

Entertainment... some gay bars have kinda come back, but a lot of people got used to not going out so much during the pandemic and the scenes have changed A LOT. When I first moved to NYC if it was a weekend you HAD to go to some club in Manhattan, but nowadays all of those Manhattan megaclubs are gone and the scene has moved more to the boroughs. Other entertainment... every theater die-hard that I knew (including myself) goes less. It's a combination of pricing and a general shittieness of the offerings.

Tourists, they're still here I guess. I don't know why they come, they could green screen their social media posts from the comfort of their living room.

It's not as much of a danger zone as the media would like you to believe, but there's less people going into offices and going out and the homeless are more aggressive and less hidden. Also independent of NYC it does seem like everyone went a little insane during the pandemic.

There's A LOT empty storefronts and it seems very lazy of our supposedly progressive politicians to keep colluding with the real estate industry to pretend that these storefronts (and office towers) are ever going to come back. In my midtown office building only two lunch spots survived the pandemic. The rest are entirely empty though there are about a dozen food trucks that line up on 6th avenue. It seems insane to me that all these storefronts are empty and someone would rather make fish and chips in a truck but they can't afford the rent and the real estate lobby has made it more profitable to have empty stock than to be reasonable.

There's a ton of chain stores which is something that I fucking hate. NYC used to be all about one-of-a-kind stores and experiences but now blocks look like the food court at a suburban mall.

…the real estate lobby has made it more profitable to have empty stock than to be reasonable.

^^ that part is just incorrect—woefully inadequate explanation.

If you say so, without any explanation, than it has to be true R273.

The other week someone asked me for money in the subway station. Not a homeless person, just a younger guy (late teens maybe?). When I told him that I don't carry cash, he asked if I had CashApp on my phone to send him something that way. First time that's happened to me.

R274 lame projection. You made the initial assertion without any reference or citation whatsoever. What did these lobbyists do to keep storefronts empty? Where’s your beef?

RATS!

"Some people say it takes a decade in New York City to become a real New Yorker, but I think it takes accidentally kicking a rat while going about your daily business. Please clap — I have done this twice."

and more rats!

ANy cruising in the various parks like Central, Fort Tryon and Prospect? I dropped so much cum in those places...

R272 Astoria Queens is basically a Plan B version of Williamsburg Brooklyn. Yuppies who have trouble affording Manhattan find it convenient and trendy. The only real sustainable business are the restaurants. Hipsters go there for all the eateries. Most of the construction is by real estate investment LLCs who buy 1-3 family homes, demolish them, replace it with ugly inferior built 6-12 unit multi level buildings. Rents for single bedroom begin at $2,500. Long term residents don't recognize their own neighborhood.

R273 NY State laws allow real estate owners to but vacant stores and a offices down as a loss to unrealized profits and get tax deductions for it. There is a proposed bill still kicking around in the state senate that will impose a commercial vacancy tax for empty units in populated locations, which would effectively negate the tax deduction.

Still more rats!!

R280 there is no tax benefit derived from vacant commercial space, other than reduced income results in lower taxes. You can try to get a property tax assessment lowered based on diminution of value, but that won’t offset the economic loss.

Note that, unless the lease has expired or the tenant has filed bankruptcy and rejected the lease, rent is still due and owing even if the space is not open for business.

The federal tax regs for depreciation of assets, including real estate, are a separate issue altogether.

Off on the wrong track for 2024

Sinking Ship?

Believe it or not the weight of all the massive buildings in concentrated areas are a contributing factor.

The numbers the trolls want to ignore.

There are other crimes other than murders.

Defacto doubling down when schooled shows what children rightwingers are. (It’s not “the trolls,” by the way, it’s one balloon-snouted specimen with a Breitbart agenda.)

Despite his becoming the police blotter for nyc, the numbers at r253 don’t lie. All the most dangerous cities in America are flyover cities like his native Pittsburgh. NYC is 96 out of 100, barely on the list at all.

That's comforting R288

There are other crimes other than murders.

and so many vehicular homicides, and hit and runs

Lol, r289, it's really too bad that you couldn't make it in the big city, but do get over it.

So many vehicular mishaps. The streets are so dangerous!

Oooh, scary, r292...you best stay away.

Wrong-way driver injures 7 pedestrians, 1 officer in New York City

R293 as so many are!

[Quote] There are other crimes other than murders.

Seek professional help, r296. Better yet, do something productive with your life.

R297 why so triggered Pete Repete? What are you doing here that's so productive? You'll be missed . . .

[quote]Pete Repete?

*That's* rich coming from you.

This thread is beyond stupid. The crime in NYC comes and goes in various waves and levels for over 200 years. You can go back year after year, decade after decade, and see comparable incidents on an almost daily basis. This is life in the big city.

I don't remember a decade or so ago there being as many incidents on a 'daily basis'

[quote]I don't remember a decade or so ago there being as many incidents on a 'daily basis'

That's because you weren't trolling and spastically linking on DL, r301.

^^

Make mine a double!

Witnesses say a yellow SUV, possibly a taxi, hit one person pushing a stroller - and then sped away and hit another person, also hitting that stroller.

Real New Yorkers know not to get involved.

Shootings may be down, but knives are the preferred weapon

Random, unprovoked violent assaults are up

police officers are leaving in droves.

The police are targeted

The bad cops in the NYPD are very much a minority, however, the good cops are turning a blind eye and/or are silent, giving all of law enforcement a very bad image.

Many are leaving for better pay in safer surroundings

[Quote] it's really too bad that you couldn't make it in the big city, but do get over it.

does that apply to the police as well

Knives out!

Shootings may be down . . .

Any wonder why police officers are leaving the NYPD!

Even the rats are leaving!

Rat sighting complaints in the city’s “rat mitigation zones” last year decreased by 20%, according to Adams’ office.

[quote]Rat sighting complaints in the city’s “rat mitigation zones” last year decreased by 20%, according to Adams’ office.

Where did they go? The rat choir explains.

In a NY minute

Immigration is an issue that everyone feels deeply, no matter which side of the political spectrum you fall on. The mainstream media reports on the border crisis constantly, and the newest story on overflowing immigration only makes it more clear exactly how dire the situation really is.

Communities are becoming outraged.

the attitude of some people!

Run over a regular citizen, you get off with a warning. Run over a police officer, you are going to get time.

she'd get more than a warning; she was driving the wrong way for starters

Unfortunately most NYPD cops go out of the way to avoid paperwork.

Perhaps because of revolving door justice with the perps right back on the street.

The man has been arrested at least a dozen times before, the latest being in November for criminal possession of a weapon for carrying a knife, according to a law enforcement source.

The big crapple!

If they don't have an available place to pee and poop, where are they going to go? They should place a few port-a-potties there.

Don't piss people off

The mayor, during a press conference with Police Commissioner Edward Caban, railed against the “How Many Stops Act,” claiming again that it will mire cops in extra paperwork and drive up overtime.

[Quote] Unfortunately most NYPD cops go out of the way to avoid paperwork.

they're going to need stenographers R323

Another officer attacked responding to 911 call.

NYPD officers responded to a 911 call of an emotionally disturbed person inside an apartment located at 1151 New York Ave. in Flatbush just before 3:30 p.m. When officers were inside the apartment speaking with family, a sergeant was slashed to the right side of the head with a machete.

Slashing seems to be a new pastime in New York.

New Yorkers are screwed!

R331 Nicotine is a hell of a drug.

NY and national candidates need to run on bringing back mental institutions. They will create jobs. They’ll serve the underserved. They’ll house the unhoused. They’ll provide job training. They’ll be funded by BIG PHARMA!

[quote]NY and national candidates need to run on bringing back mental institutions. They will create jobs. They’ll serve the underserved. They’ll house the unhoused. They’ll provide job training. They’ll be funded by BIG PHARMA!

And they will provide housing for politicians.

R332 should switch to vapes. No one bums vapes, do they?

The US went from being overly dependent on mental institutions, and often committing people improperly, to the other extreme of not institutionalizing those who desperately need it.

It's a shit hole that gets worse by the day. Stay away. Spend your vacation money elsewhere.

R337 = NYC Director of Tourism

NYC Director of Tourism=Director of migrant busses

I just found out that two former co workers and a friend I lost touch with a few years ago all moved far away from NYC. I'm just adding them to the list. The very long list.

The hotel business is booming

NYC inks another set of emergency hotel contracts to house migrants — at $137M price tag

Good for business but not necessarily tourism

[quote] New York City - What is it like in 2023

It’s a whole lot better than that shit show on the west coast - San Francisco.

but essentially, it's becoming San Fran East

Crime wave: here are the top U.S. cities where shoplifting has jumped

Biggest increases in shoplifting (from midyear 2019 to midyear 2023):

New York: increase in incidents by 64% Los Angeles: increase in incidents by 61% Virginia Beach, Va.: increase in incidents by 44% Dallas: increase in incidents by 20%

NYC spent almost $2.5B providing welfare checks to over 720K residents – the most it’s paid out in over a decade

The inmates and the migrants have taken over in 2024

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free/the wretched refuse of your teeming shore

Let's strike that last part

Subway violence is at a 25 year high.

[quote]r12 Many streets and neighborhoods feel MT

#MeToo ?

This made me sick.

The daily news

An increase in robberies

Are all criminals in NYC black/brown, or just the ones in the Post?

the answer is as easy as ABC R354

The 'D' train

Back to the 70s

we will look back on 2023 as one of the golden years in NYC

A sign of the times

Police presence in the actual subway system will make a big difference. Even before the pandemic began the NYPD or transit police all but abandoned the subway, making it a free for all for criminal element, homeless people and the mentally unstable. The only place I would see police at times was at the entrances of major hubs. How about being on the platforms or even on trains?

Hochul's calling in the troops

The hard truth is that "stop and frisk" was a huge benefit to the city, at the expense of the pride of black and latino citizens.

There is a world of difference from eliminating the stop and frisk policy and actually arresting, booking, and prosecuting those who actually break laws, especially those who are repeat offenders.

more cops and the National Guard needed right away!

Will the National Guard be confiscating bottles?

New York government and, the attorney generals and law enforcement have been ignoring crime, the homeless and the mentally ill in the subway system for years now, and they feel the bets way to address it is to bring in outside assistant to try to put a band-aid on the void they created. There is zero presence in the subways and the perps know it's basically a free for all down there.

Still dangerous for Asians

Despite the National Guard the subways are still dangerous and perhaps especially for those who work for the MTA

This used to be my playground

I was in The Ramble the other night and there were *two* straight couples. I have never seen women in The Ramble after dark. Is someone advertising that straight people can watch gays have sex?

were they women, women R370?

R371, yes! They seemed to be there only to watch which I can’t figure out. And they seemed to know the areas where the guys would be playing.

R372 Maybe along with The Vessel, the High Line and Little Island Park it's become a tourist attraction. Women wanting to watch man-man sex is nothing new btw. Women visited the Anvil and sometimes attempted to get into male sex parties/clubs. And the Ramble is an open public space so they can't be thrown out or denied admission

I regularly see gangs of teens hanging out with drinking alcohol and smoking. Cops are never around. A police presence would be a deterrent to the loitering groups of teens, but I guess donut runs are more important.

Or, perhaps R374, there are not enough................

[quote]The NYPD’s force will be reduced to just 29,000 cops by the end of fiscal year 2025 — the lowest level since the mid-90s — amid a slew of city-wide budget cuts revealed by Mayor Eric Adams Thursday as the Big Apple grapples with its multi-billion-dollar migrant crisis.

[quote]Under City Hall’s newly unveiled updated 2024 financial plan, the next five police academy classes will be axed — essentially decimating an already strained department as roughly 4,500 officers are expected to leave their ranks within the next 18 months.

Why stay in NY when you can go to safer places with higher pay and probably more respect.

Brooklyn's district attorney will not pursue charges against man in fatal New York City subway shooting, citing self-defense

The incident occurred during rush hour on a northbound A train in Brooklyn, where two men engaged in a physical altercation that escalated to one man pulling out a gun.

Passengers on the subway witnessed the violent confrontation, with some attempting to intervene and others shouting warnings as the situation unfolded.

Knives out!

The good news: shootings are down

It's still the safest big city in the United States

[Quote] I commute to work by subway daily. I see police on the platforms very often (this is in Manhattan below 125th street though). I feel safe commuting by subway. I wouldn’t take the subway after 10pm though.

yet I can't remember the last time cops were on the scene to arrest the perp

It's still the safest big city in America

(^.^) she's not alone

[quote]Only half of New Yorkers plan to stay in the city, according to the survey of more than 6,600 New York City households conducted in the second half of 2023 by the nonpartisan Citizens Budget Commission

R184. Yes— 1/2 the City— 4,400,000 city dwellers are forming a mass brigade to march south to the Carolinas, Georgia and Fla.

For^ R384

R383 I won't even justify clicking on that link. The New York Post became a rag of yellow journalism since the Murdochs bought it around 40 years ago. It has just devolved further each year into lowest common denominator garbage and prints blatant hit pieces on anybody or anything that doesn't fit comfortably with the right wing propaganda you see on Fox.

R184 Just half of all New Yorkers plan to stay in the city over the next five years, and anger over quality of life has skyrocketed since the pandemic — with just 30% saying they’re happy here, according to a damning poll from the The Citizens Budget Commission.

[Quote] —There just like migrants coming thru Mexico

Not exactly. They are most likely citizens who may be retiring or have jobs and can work remotely while living in an environment that is quieter, safer, cleaner, less crowded and more economical.

^^^ was responding to R385

People are understandably afraid, and the Governor has called in the National Guard!

I will be visiting NYC for a long week (about 9 days in April). First time visiting the city. I'm from the UK. I'm a little apprehensive about the crime stories, but more interested in discovering places to eat, cool live music venues, best places for lesbian watching. Any tips?

R387 Same basic report different messenger

R391 Google is your friend!

The NYPD and the Transit Police had totally abandoned the subway system even before the pandemic hit, creating a vacuum, and allowing for the homeless, the mentally ill, and the criminal element to basically run amok with impunity. I see whatever policy they adopted as a dereliction of duty. Calling in the National Guard to do the job they won't do.

Not the same as talking to locals, r393.

you could be more specific R395 What do you plan to do in NY? What are your interests and what is your budget? Many sites provide up to the minute information and often have reviews from consumers on clubs, theater, hotels, restaurants, museums . . .

Staying for around 9 days in Midtown Manhattan, with girlfriend. We'll be doing the general touristy things, so sticking to that central area, but we've never been before and so I can't really get a picture of anything in my mind.

Budget is maybe $200 a day each, it can stretch to a bit more if necessary. I'd like to find out about some reasonably priced places to eat. Everything I've come across so far seems to be either a diner-type pizzeria or a 2-star Michelin restaurant.

I've looked at sites for live music, but it gets a bit overwhelming when you're not familiar with the city or the places. Jazz or rock.

I would like to visit Ellis Island but can't quite work out the ferry company website. I guess I could ask at the hotel.

Also, good places to shop for clothes.

R398 Barney's, Macy's and Bloomingdale's flagship stores. Vintage clothing in the East Village and of course exclusive stores on Madison Avenue and chains such as Urban Outfitters. Too many to list but again the internet has all the latest.

Barneys closed shop years ago.

and I suspect many others will be closing shop

Thanks, r399!

City on Fire!

R402 Clueless Brit if you are going to be in NY for 9 days in Midtown besides the Broadway theaters there are plenty of restaurants in Midtown West (Times Square/Hell's Kitchen). Walk around 8th, 9th and 10th Avenues in the 40s.

R398, Century 21 is a decent place for marked down brand name clothing.

A fun thing to do might be to take the ferry from Pier 11 to Rockaway, Queens and visit the beach. Lots of great restaurants out there. The ferry is the same price as the subway.

R397 offers tips and suggestions most locals don't know about

Thanks r404, I've just been discovering some great-looking, reasonably priced restaurants in Hells Kitchen/Times Square on one of the apps mentioned in the video r406 linked to! The zip code tip on the metro is also very useful.

That does sound fun, r405, and gives us an opportunity to see another part of the city.

Thanks guys, I'm starting to get very excited!

R407 you might like Coney Island. It's more accessible and has more to do than Rockaway Beach. You can get there on the D F N Q subway lines from midtown.

R399 copied that text from his old Fodor’s guide.

It made me laugh….

^ I loved the "...and of course exclusive stores on Madison Avenue" directed to someone with a budget of $200 a day.

Avoid Bodegas

and the Bronx

Thanks r408, Coney island sounds easy to get too. It's all gonna be fun!

R408 Luna Park in Coney Island opens this month. A couple of the subway lines have Coney Island as their final stop. Weekdays are best as it is less crowded.

R413 ⬆️⬆️⬆️ Sounds like you may already have a hotel if not this moderately-priced Hotel has a great location near Times Square, the theater district, the subway and lots of restaurants. It's relatively new and I used to pass it when I worked in Midtown. So much is right there and it's new!

Yes, we have a hotel but that one looks fun too and with a great view!

This is our hotel. Looks lesbian-friendly from the promotional video - two women hooking up at the hotel, one leaves after a hot sesh, turns and gives a wry smile as the other gazes dreamily out over the city?

R417 Nice You'll be near Grand Central Station, Bryant Park and The NY Library. Relatively quiet area particularly at night. Enjoy!

Thanks r418, I'm glad to know it's a little quieter!

I wonder when if the presence of the National Guard will make a difference?

when and if ^^^

[quote]"This is 800 cops - 800 cops being surged into this system over the next five days

799 which are deployed to Times Square to take pictures with the tourists.

Cops basically stand at the entrance of some of the major hub stations. They are rarely on the platforms or on the actual trains.

I live in Manhattan and I’ve yet to see any national guard.

Person gets pushed onto subway tracks and is killed.

'It's the safest big city in America"

The suspect

R426 I do not understand NYC AG's irresponsibility in not prosecuting repeat criminals. How is that making communities safer and protecting police officers? Who wins here?

[quote]I do not understand NYC AG's irresponsibility in not prosecuting repeat criminals.

Think harder...

R429

New York City women warn each other to stay alert after multiple people report getting ‘punched in the face

On Tuesday 19 March at around 8pm, comedian Sarah Suzuki Harvard was walking alone on Delancey Street in lower Manhattan when she was attacked by a man from behind. He punched her in the back of her skull, but when she turned around, the assailant had already begun running away.

Since then, the 30-year-old Lower East Side resident has experienced headaches, nausea, dizziness, blurred vision, anxiety, and post-traumatic stress. While she didn’t initially file a police report after the attack, Harvard said that seeing viral videos from multiple women detailing similar assaults has now inspired her to report the incident.

[quote]On Tuesday 19 March at around 8pm, comedian Sarah Suzuki Harvard was walking alone on Delancey Street in lower Manhattan when she was attacked by a man from behind.

That man was sent by Sally Sweet, the Queen of Delancey Street. She doesn’t put up with anyone on her patch trying to attract the attention of Cuban Pete.

If I were one Sarah S. Harvard, I’d get out of town while the gettin’s good.

Weapon of choice

knives out!

is gun control really the answer?

It's the safest big city in America

Man arrested after multiple women say they were punched in face while walking on NYC streets.

Police on Wednesday arrested a man on an assault charge following a recent string of unprovoked attacks reported by women across New York City in which they said a stranger approached them and punched them in the head or face.

It's the safest big city in America

This city is not out of control

It's probably just one guy punching women. And he was arrested, see R437.

It's the " He-Man Woman Haters Club" R440.

OP and wife.

Is this the best place to ask how much cash a first-time visitor to NYC should carry on her?

R440 isn't it symptomatic of all the crazy people wandering around the city attacking people at random and the catch and release policy and the reason the subways have become so dangerous that the governor has called in the National Guard. The man arrested had previously been arrested 3 times in the past 6 months for similar crimes.

[Quote] It's probably just one guy punching women. And he was arrested

but then again . . .

[quote]In the US, if you don’t take pay for cable how many free channels do you have, and are they worth watching?

I'll get flamed for this, but liberals in NYC still haven't made the connection between voting and safe streets. I bet every one of these people who got punched in the face voted for Adams because he is black and they could pat themselves on the back because they're not racist.

This stuff will stop happening when we stop the BLM justice system and return to putting people in jail and holding them there.

R446 Adams ran on being the law and order candidate.

Police say the man charged with shooting Diller had at least 21 prior arrests.

Will officer Diller be memorialized in a statue like George Floyd or have a town square named after him!

[quote]the man charged with shooting Diller had at least 21 prior arrests.

21 prior arrests.

In any civilized country this guy would be seen as a menace to society and would have been put away in jail for a long time.

[quote] Adams ran on being the law and order candidate.

He's a Democrat.

[quote]Adams ran on being the law and order candidate.

And stupid people voted for him believing he had the power to lock up criminals. Unfortunately, until the law is changed, he does not have that power.

Bring back bail!

Mayor Adams launching a gun scanner initiative.

I swear, in five years, boarding the subway will be like getting on an airplane.

The National Guard,

Now gun scanners.

Tell us again how crime has gone down.

More news from 'the safest big city in America'

Easter Sunday in the safest big city in America

If you can make it there . . .you can make it anywhere

Easter Eggs

Sunday in the park

Woman assaulted with hammer in Central Park—hours after man attacked with rock

[Quote] Is this the best place to ask how much cash a first-time visitor to NYC should carry on her?

a few dollars as robbers don't like it when you only have credit cards

Crimes like this have been going on for decades in NYC. And they have been going on in other major cities as well. Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Houston, etc.

Should that make us feels safer?

[Quote]Crimes like this have been going on for decades in NYC

R458 Don't remember so many random, unprovoked assaults not the National Guard deployed to restore law and order in the subway

A decade or so ago there was the' knockout game' now randomly punching women seems to be trending and it's happening in all neighborhoods.

Make the violators pay their fare share!

The Old Gal's slipping.

Something a bit more entertaining to break through the gloom and doom. Brit reacts to video about two other Brits trying bagels in NYC.

Thanks r164, but I'm a Brit about to visit York to eat maybe bagels and definitely Korean food, but I find that Korean Englishman to be so boring. My non-Brit, bagel-loving girlfriend is a big fan of his and of the Jolly videos, though.

This reactor is anything but boring.

Best pizza in NYC?

Foreigners discovering the art NYC's best pizza is always entertaining. Even Italians don't expect NY pizza to be that good. But they had many decades perfecting it.

If only NY's criminal justice system was on a par with its pizza and bagels.

After being closed for 3 years, The Vessel will reopen with some modifications

Teresa Vasilopoulos, 64, who works in social services in Toronto, wondered if a suicide hotline phone might help, in addition to the netting. “It’s such a shame not to have it,” she said.

I had some pizza at Scarrs yesterday, r468. It was very good, but not better than good Italian pizza.

This is why people in my NY office want to work remotely more than just Mondays and Fridays

random attacks are a daily occurrence

A few weeks ago I was walking fast to catch a train at Penn Station. The Rangers game had just gotten out and there were lots of young male fans in the area. I'm in my 60s and I look it. I passed by a 40ish looking black man who decided to slam into me hard with his shoulder. He grunted as he slammed me but did not knock me down. I turned and looked at him and he was clearly deranged so I just kept walking. Thoughts after the incident: 1. He had his choice of young white men but picked me, 2. I'm grateful he didn't stab me, and 3. I'm going to be much more aware of my surroundings in the future. Especially in crowds.

R474 "random attacks are a daily occurrence "

No shit Sherlock. Random attacks have been happening in big cities across the US forever and for different reasons.

R476 lived in the NY metro area all my life, and this exceeds anything I remember, and my friends and coworkers feel the same way.

BTW Why so angry?

Public transportation is so dangerous.

R477 The only notable changes I see is that there are perhaps more people with mental issues in public, and that much of the crimes are being done by repeat offenders who are not being being charged or prosecuted. In general crime is due mostly by those in poverty and because of a bad economy.

Look harder R479 Never remember the National Guard being deployed.

That's because the NYPD and Transit police have abandoned the subway system for years, causing a vacuum that was filled by the homeless and mentally disturbed. All my life there was police presence on subway platform and on trains, and they even had plainclothes cops. Since the 1970s taking the train to my high school, college, and all the different jobs, and even coming home late at night. That stopped a few years ago. The only place you see any police today are at entrances of major hub stations.

Mentally ill, homeless, migrants, protestors . . .

Back to the 70s but even more violent

It doesn't seem safe

It's not safe

It's not safe

3/4 of this thread are from just 2 people. Once I hit ignore, most of the thread goes away and I only see up to R112, lol.

NYC is not back to it's former glory. But it is a deffo improvement to COVID times.

Though in COVID times people felt the need for masks and vaccines as opposed to guns and the National Guard.

I just visited NYC from Europe and was surprised by the number of people still wearing masks!

Also, why is there so little signage and why aren't doors labelled push/pull?

[quote]I just visited NYC from Europe and was surprised by the number of people still wearing masks!

Those were the muggers.

A few strange people wear masks outside. I still wear a mask inside the subway.

Were they protestors R491?

Not sure, r490, because they appeared to be people in customer services, e.g. restaurant staff, bus drivers, at the checkout in shops, security staff in museums, flight attendants. I guess if they encounter a lot of people each day they want to feel safe, but it's a marked difference from Europe, where only really old people might occasionally still where them.

Gunfire erupts on the streets again and again it's not clear if the victims were even the intended targets

Face it, NY is not safe.

It’s all so frightening and dangerous. I haven’t left my apartment since February 2020. I’ve been watching the play-by-play here on DL in such threads as “Has New York bounced back?”, and I always ask myself — what good could come from stepping out into that war zone that intrepid posters like Defacto and others from faraway states are brave enough to shed light on? I watch from my window and see more foot traffic than ever before. It’s only a matter of time before each of the tens of thousands of daily passersby gets hit in the face with a hammer. No one is safe, and, as evidenced by several dozen incidents, everyone will fall victim.

No thank you. I will eat my Meals on Wheels in peace.

Then don't vote for Democrats to run and ruin your city R497

I work downtown and have been walking to the lower east side over the lunch hour to get some steps in. I’ve noticed a lot more homeless, mentally ill people and drug addicts on the lower east side. It’s a bit alarming. No one has bothered me (yet) and I’m not one of the hysterics who thinks NYC is now a war zone - but there seems to have been a shift in that neighborhood.

R497 blame it on the criminal justice system

at least you'll have plenty to eat R497

R499 It is alarming

R502 The shooting appears to be stemming from school dispute. It wasn't some random person being shot in the head in the street.

Well thankfully the assailant had good aim R503

Not a good time to be a teen in NY

or an MTA worker

The new normal?

Is this the safest big city in America?

At least this first date had a happy ending.

It has entered the " flyover" category.

it has entered the realm of the absurd

Nothing absurd about people being stabbed to death; tragic.

NYC has a population of 8.3 million. How does anybody expect it to be crime free? Especially with the mentally ill and the rise of homeless in the streets and with the DA not setting bail or even charging offenders?

3 surfers killed in Mexico's Baja Peninsula has been all over the news as well as DL, but 3 teens killed in separate incidents in NYC in a period of about 48 hours is just treated as another day in NY. btw How many people have been killed in the demonstrations that have dominated the news?

(^.^) the new normal

A fuck’n metropolis of insatiable hungry bottoms. You can’t open up any hook up app and not be confronted with literally hundreds of gaping and hungry holes, waiting to be ravaged and seeded. It’s a gold mine for hung tops looking to unload their coveted cream.

(^.^) hungry aging bottoms R516

spiraling out of control

Suspect arrested at scene

Is this entire thread just one poster stalking NYC?

NYC in 2023 seems like a circus/madhouse but I have to admit it’s kind of fun. I’d still rather be here than some dull suburb.

Make that 2024!

Half the posts on this thread are invisible to me, including 5-10 consecutive posts at a time. I’ve only ever blocked about half a dozen posters in the last decade. It seems like we have a lone busy beaver obsessed with painting NYC as some sort of hellscape where all who enter will be murdered multiple times a day every day if all the fentanyl particles in the air don’t get them first.

lock him up! lock him up!

What's with all this stabbing shit? Real Americans shoot other people, not stab them. Un-American!!!

People either aren't aware or have have selective memory, but even in the 1980s NYC had rashes of stubbings.

Er,.... I mean stabbings.

Miss Emily Litella reporting from 1980.

and they even had the E train back then! Some things never change!

Back in the 80s people shopped at Safeway

[Quote] What's with all this stabbing shit? Real Americans shoot other people, not stab them. Un-American!!!

In NY we use bottles, box cutters and crowbars

and belts come in handy

bottles, box cutters, belts and cars

[Quote] Real Americans shoot other people, not stab them. Un-American!!!

Well shootings are down

While most major crimes are down, including shootings and murders, robberies shot up 5.6% so far in 2024 over the same period in 2023 — to 5,522 from 5,228 as of May 5.

R524 nearly 40% of New Yorkers are foreign born and they bring their culture with them

R532,Maine is a foreign country?

[quote]Bickford, a US citizen and Maine resident, traveled to New York City “to, in his own words, wage jihad and kill as many of his targets as possible,” the US Attorney’s Office said in a news release.

R533 I thought Maine was a country

[quote] I thought Maine was a country

I'm very concerned.

Very concerned if Trump is re elected.

On February 13, 2021, Collins was one of seven Republican senators to vote to convict Trump in his second impeachment trial.[97

We're very concerned too Susan

morel like death trap

[Quote] What's with all this stabbing shit? Real Americans shoot other people, not stab them. Un-American!!!

here's a refreshing change of pace R524

I’d be concerned for my own sanity if I were talking to myself to the tune of several hundred comments in a single Datalounge thread.

I'm as sane as anyone walking the streets of NY R540

I'd be concerned for the victims R540

"After the incident it was traumatizing for me, so I feel like I don't wanna go back outside," Park said.

Nah, you’re an obsessive nut who ought to get a life.

that's better than taking a life R543

guns are making a comeback

aka firearms

[Quote] The shooting appears to be stemming from school dispute. It wasn't some random person being shot in the head in the street.

R503

They seem nice.

Anyone can be a target

I went to see Stereophonic today for the second time. I got murdered three times on my way there from UWS, then twice more on the way home. Seems like every time I’ve left my apartment since 2020, I’m either getting raped or hit in the face with a hammer or just downright murdered. This is the same experience of everyone in New York, locals and tourists alike. It goes woefully under-reported in the Post.

Anybody who tells you New York has bounced back is a shill for Woke Inc.

a to say nothing of ABC, CBS, NBC, WPIX 11, AMNY . . .

Destin has been arrested more than a dozen times before. He lives in a building nearby that includes supportive housing for formerly homeless individuals.

BE VERY AFRAID 👻☠️

Cute R550

Buscemi's "Boardwalk Empire" co-star Michael Stuhlbarg was hit in the back of the neck with a rock while walking in Manhattan's Central Park on March 31. Stuhlbarg chased his attacker, who was taken into custody outside the park.

R549 Damn film critics are getting aggressive.

and theater critics as well

Aren't you glad you elected a mayor who ran on a "tough on crime" platform? Aren't you glad you elected a DA who would not prosecute criminals, but decided to go after the police dept?

New York is an unmitigated hellscape! I’ll grant you I haven’t been since the World’s Fair; regardless, it’s a far cry from my home in The Villages. The only thing here I have to fear is chlamydia itself.

undoubtedly he's been arrested before

revolving door justice

After a lifetime in Brooklyn, Debbie Villanueva moved to Rockaway Beach for the tranquility of the sea. But Villanueva is instead recovering after being attacked right in front of her new home.

3 separate incidents of teen violence

The attacker rushed the 25-year-old male victim on Seventh Avenue near West 25th Street in Chelsea at around 10:50 a.m. Monday and whacked him in the head with a bag stuffed full of items – leaving the budding actor covered in blood “everywhere,” he told The Post.

[quote]3 separate incidents of teen violence

"Teen violence" sounds as quaint as "juvenile delinquents".

They might be under the age of 20, but they're hardened thugs.

Rockaway Beach has been a danger zone as far back as I can remember. She should have stayed in Brooklyn.

Well at least she didn't move to the Queens!

A man’s planned ambush on a couple walking down a Queens street backfired Wednesday when the pair turned the attack around, leaving him with multiple stab wounds, police said.

R567. We'll be seeing more of this. People are fed up. First an angry mob cornering a perp earlier this week and now this. I walked through Chelsea yesterday and it was depressing. Where did all the gays go?

You can have multiple DL threads like this of most major US cities, and they would be similar to NYC. Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Houston, etc. New York has more people than the next 3 most populous cities combined.

[quote] move to the Queens!

Oh dear.

Nice try at rationalization, R 569.

It's fabulous, thanks for asking, never been better in my 64 years.

[Quote] You can have multiple DL threads like this of most major US cities, and they would be similar to NYC

Yes, and how sad that so many major cities have deteriorated

Is NY still the safest big city in the United States?

[quote]I walked through Chelsea yesterday and it was depressing. Where did all the gays go?

To Hell’s Kitchen, twenty years ago. They dispersed elsewhere since. Both neighborhoods are safer today than then.

'Man with hammers threatens worker while shoplifting at Hell's Kitchen 7-Eleven'

I live in hell's Kitchen 1998-2006 it seemed safer then

it's earning its name

Midtown seemed safer years ago.

It's become more hellish

Post pandemic the streets are less safe

A series of break-ins has rattled businesses in Hell’s Kitchen, with three side street stores near 10th Avenue having their glass doors shattered within 48 hours.

[Quote] She should have stayed in Brooklyn.

but then again

[Quote] She should have stayed in Brooklyn.

maybe not

and to think this is the safest big city in the United States🥹😥😢

The daily news

catch and release

cheaper than getting a parking ticket

Don't attack famous New Yorkers

R588 Yes, it does appear when random attackers are arrested they are typically released in a matter of hours. I guess the DA doesn't want the news of famous actor attacker being rereleased.

(^,^) The story involving Buscemi was widely covered and made national headlines.

How many mass murders have there been today? I’m counting three dozen in my news outlets of choice, but I know TPTB usually suppress one or two dozen massacre stories a day. And that’s just in Tribeca.

Mass murders are rare but hit and runs are frequent

the streets in Queens are murder

[quote]Mass murders are rare but hit and runs are frequent

They're not rare in Chicago!

This is last weekend: 45 people shot.

Wouldn't you think this would be national news? At one time it would have been.

"45 People Shot Over Weekend Across Chicago, Including 6 Injured in Mass Shooting"

Murder not Murdoch

time to close up shop!

A pedestrian was shot in the wrist with a Gel Blaster pellet gun in Manhattan on Monday — telling The Post he believes it was random and lamenting, “You never know in this crazy town.’’

I grew up in NYC in the 1970s. This is nothing knew. Crime was significantly worse in the 1970s and 1980s. This thread is basically to sensationalize crime in a big city. The crime throughout Florida today is actually unprecedented. In NYC it is not.

Penultimate!

New York City is desperate for revenue therefore they are going to begin that congestion charge next month. $15 to enter the downtown Monday through Friday – ouch!