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BREAKING: Suspect Arrested in Long Island Serial Killings

Massapequa Park architect Rex Heuermann, 59.

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by Anonymousreply 589June 7, 2024 1:17 AM

Before you get mad at me for linking to the Post, I looked all over for another source that named him-- CBS, NBC. No luck.

by Anonymousreply 1July 14, 2023 2:28 PM

𝙋𝒓𝙤𝒖𝙙𝒍𝙮 𝙖𝒏𝙙 𝙪𝒏𝙖𝒑𝙤𝒍𝙤𝒈𝙚𝒕𝙞𝒄𝙖𝒍𝙡𝒚 link the Post at every opportunity. Fight the petty tyranny of the shrieking howler monkey hall monitors.

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by Anonymousreply 2July 14, 2023 2:41 PM

"This all came down to phone data" they say in this article.

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by Anonymousreply 3July 14, 2023 2:49 PM

[quote] Investigators matched him to the crimes by tracking the phone calls made from burner phones to the victims' cell phones over 10 years ago. The location of the phone calls matched Heuermann's home address and his office address.

The guy kinda missed the point of using a burner.

by Anonymousreply 4July 14, 2023 2:51 PM

What a dumbass. I'm curious to see if any of our New Yorkers here on DL know this guy!

by Anonymousreply 5July 14, 2023 3:01 PM

From the NYTimes:

[quote]The first case to come light began in May 2010, when Shannan Gilbert, a 24-year-old from Jersey City, N.J., who worked as a prostitute, was reported missing on Long Island.

I thought the word "prostitute" was verboten?

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by Anonymousreply 6July 14, 2023 3:21 PM

Won't link to it, but the Daily Mail already has a ton of stuff up; pics of his shithole house, and even his marriage announcement. Can you imagine what the wife is going through right now?

by Anonymousreply 7July 14, 2023 3:21 PM

Apparently it's Sen. Mike Rounds.

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by Anonymousreply 8July 14, 2023 3:26 PM

Genealogical DNA rumor on Twitter:

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by Anonymousreply 9July 14, 2023 3:48 PM

He looks like a classic serial killer from the 70s

by Anonymousreply 10July 14, 2023 3:50 PM

What kind of sick fuck kills a toddler

by Anonymousreply 11July 14, 2023 3:54 PM

He reminds me of Vincent Gardenia in Moonstruck.

by Anonymousreply 12July 14, 2023 3:55 PM

I read the book Lost Girls which was all about this case. It was chilling. After killing one of the escorts, he began calling the escort's younger teenage sister and taunting her with how slowly and painfully he tortured her before murdering her. Nuts.

by Anonymousreply 13July 14, 2023 4:01 PM

That’s a very tough 59.

by Anonymousreply 14July 14, 2023 4:02 PM


by Anonymousreply 15July 14, 2023 4:02 PM

The Asian murder victim was trans. Suddenly this case becomes important.

by Anonymousreply 16July 14, 2023 4:16 PM

[quote]I thought the word "prostitute" was verboten?

They may have cut and pasted from an old NYT story when "sex worker" wasn't yet the preferred usage.

by Anonymousreply 17July 14, 2023 4:16 PM


by Anonymousreply 18July 14, 2023 4:21 PM

Lol, r16, troll harder.

by Anonymousreply 19July 14, 2023 4:25 PM


They said they found bodies. I do not believe they said that all of these bodies are connected.

by Anonymousreply 20July 14, 2023 4:44 PM

Billy Baldwin says he went to school with the guy.

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by Anonymousreply 21July 14, 2023 4:49 PM

R6 I think Dick Dyson is the preferred and more accepted term

by Anonymousreply 22July 14, 2023 4:52 PM

Thank God, they captured this sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 23July 14, 2023 4:57 PM

Granny, what was HS like for you?

Well there was this one boy who went on to be a serial killer who used to slip sweet notes into my locker

There was a gal who dogged a dating disaster.

by Anonymousreply 24July 14, 2023 4:58 PM

I used to work with a woman who as a kid used to walk to and from school with Albert deSalvo, the alleged Boston Strangler.

She said he was a nice guy. Back then, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 25July 14, 2023 5:54 PM

[Quote] I thought the word "prostitute" was verboten?

That is correct. The proper term is Prostitution Whore.

by Anonymousreply 26July 14, 2023 6:42 PM

The story at r6 has been updated to read:

[quote]The killings came to light around May 2010 when Shannan Gilbert, a 24-year-old from Jersey City, N.J., who worked as an escort, was reported missing on Long Island. She disappeared while visiting a client in Oak Beach, a gated community three miles from Gilgo Beach.

by Anonymousreply 27July 14, 2023 6:48 PM

Ugly as homemade soap.

Momma votes for the death penalty.

by Anonymousreply 28July 14, 2023 7:15 PM

I’m almost 52. If I thought I’d look like him in 7 years, I’d kill myself now.


by Anonymousreply 29July 14, 2023 7:23 PM

I knew the fucking Baldwins would be connected somehow.

by Anonymousreply 30July 14, 2023 7:28 PM

Real Estate Interview with the killer

by Anonymousreply 31July 14, 2023 7:29 PM

Let's try that agin pasting the link in the right place.

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by Anonymousreply 32July 14, 2023 7:30 PM

More clicks for Murdoch. Great.

by Anonymousreply 33July 14, 2023 7:39 PM

The guy is pig ugly with dead little eyes. Guilty

by Anonymousreply 34July 14, 2023 7:43 PM

He sho is ugly!

by Anonymousreply 35July 14, 2023 8:35 PM

The suspect bears a striking resemblance to DL icon Ina Garten.

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by Anonymousreply 36July 14, 2023 8:43 PM

Gray Hughes covering it live and making some interesting points:

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by Anonymousreply 37July 14, 2023 8:43 PM

R11 - I do not know what kind of a sick fuck kills a toddler, but Mr. Massapequa is NOT linked to that case. He's indicted on 3 murders and is the lead suspect for a 4th murder, but not the toddler. At least 10 bodies have been found along that lonely stretch of Ocean Parkway around Gilgo Beach.

Ah, Massapequa NY... the town that keeps on giving! Christina Jorgensen, the band The Stray Cats, Jerry Seinfeld, Joey Buttafucco (remember him? Decades ago he fucked an underage Amy Fisher, who shot his wife), the Baldwins, the Gambino crime family lived there - yes, Carlo. Oh! And Liberty DeVito, who was once Billy Joel's drummer.

I knew that burg, once upon a time...

by Anonymousreply 38July 14, 2023 8:51 PM

Breathes like a gigantic HOG.

by Anonymousreply 39July 14, 2023 8:53 PM

Why am I always low key disappointed that these killers always look so basic dumb and ugly? Maybe there is something unsettling about the banality of evil and all that. Theyre never evil geniuses, just evil schlubs

by Anonymousreply 40July 14, 2023 9:21 PM

Steve Guttenberg, John Savage, "Supergirl" Helen Slater, Dee Snider, Stuttering John, Candy Darling and Marvin Hamlisch are from Massapequa too.

by Anonymousreply 41July 14, 2023 10:47 PM

Very interesting, OP. I was also certain a cop was responsible for these crimes.

by Anonymousreply 42July 14, 2023 11:00 PM

I’m so excited they found the killer.

by Anonymousreply 43July 14, 2023 11:10 PM

I wonder if he will be in a wheel soon like the Golden State Killer. What a pathetic display he faked in his wheelchair.

by Anonymousreply 44July 14, 2023 11:26 PM

R44. Oops wheelchair soon

by Anonymousreply 45July 14, 2023 11:30 PM

Sick fuck had a Tinder profile.

by Anonymousreply 46July 14, 2023 11:33 PM

And his daughter was doxxed

by Anonymousreply 47July 14, 2023 11:36 PM

An architect? He was probably a regular on DL's "tasteful friends" threads.

by Anonymousreply 48July 14, 2023 11:37 PM

What is his grievance ? 92 gun permits? Red flag.🚩

by Anonymousreply 49July 15, 2023 12:12 AM

Surveillance video.

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by Anonymousreply 50July 15, 2023 12:59 AM

[quote] The suspect arrested in connection with Long Island's Gilgo Beach murders has an older brother who killed a police captain in 1988 after striking him with his car while high on cocaine.

by Anonymousreply 51July 15, 2023 1:26 AM

I don’t understand his connection to the shannan Gilbert murder. She was called out to a party on oak beach, ran off and was murdered. People said for awhile the suspect had cop connections—hmm

by Anonymousreply 52July 15, 2023 1:34 AM

The police believe that Shannan Gilbert got lost in a patch of high reeds and died of exposure, R52. It's not as crazy as it sounds when you listen to her 911 call. She was in a very bad state, obviously drunk or high on something.

by Anonymousreply 53July 15, 2023 1:40 AM

The woman Maureen was said to have gotten clients off Craigslist. She was banned from the site right before she went missing. Her friend said that she had regulars. I wonder if he had been with her before.

by Anonymousreply 54July 15, 2023 1:43 AM

Who said he had 92 gun permits?

by Anonymousreply 55July 15, 2023 1:47 AM

He started killing women in 1996?

by Anonymousreply 56July 15, 2023 1:48 AM

First victim was in Fire Island.

by Anonymousreply 57July 15, 2023 1:49 AM

@r53 her hyoid bone was broken, indicative of strangulation

by Anonymousreply 58July 15, 2023 1:53 AM

I listened to the 911 calls Shannan Gilbert, she was running from home to home banging on doors and people opened their door for her but she would run off again. These people immediately called 911 after she showed up and ran off.

by Anonymousreply 59July 15, 2023 1:53 AM

I listened to the 911 calls re: Shannan Gilbert,

by Anonymousreply 60July 15, 2023 1:55 AM

If Shannan hadn't freaked and ran around that gated community those other victims may have never been found

by Anonymousreply 61July 15, 2023 1:57 AM

Escort Claims Ex-SCPD Chief Burke Paid Her For Sex At Oak Beach Drug Party

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by Anonymousreply 62July 15, 2023 2:00 AM

He’s a huge hog beast.

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by Anonymousreply 63July 15, 2023 2:19 AM

Watching him in the interview posted up thread, I'd never guess he's so evil. Those poor girls, he tortured them, too. He's probably killed other girls, too. Do they know who killed the toddler? The families have suffered all these years. Sick and disturbing. I hope they're watching him so he doesn't kill himself. I want that fat bastard to to answer for this and hear that prison cell door close on him. He was stalking the families, too. Unbelievably evil.

by Anonymousreply 64July 15, 2023 2:28 AM

He definitely gives off a trashbag, loser vibe in his interview.

Very Lawn Guyland.

I would avoid him. At best he’s just a trashy loser. At worst he’s… who he is.

by Anonymousreply 65July 15, 2023 2:32 AM

What if they’re wrong? I mean, just using phone calls?

by Anonymousreply 66July 15, 2023 2:36 AM

Have you read the thread, R66? They matched his DNA to the DNA on the bodies. It's not "just phone calls".

by Anonymousreply 67July 15, 2023 2:40 AM

Sorry not the whole thing r67. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 68July 15, 2023 2:44 AM

The perp does resemble that ridiculous police sketch in the eyes. Hollowed out and 👽

by Anonymousreply 69July 15, 2023 3:03 AM

[quote] His wife's DNA was found on three of the victims' bodies

by Anonymousreply 70July 15, 2023 3:07 AM

[quote] Initially, authorities had been looking for Shannan Gilbert — another sex worker who escaped from a home and called 911. After police made the discoveries of the initial four bodies, they uncovered more human remains near beaches in Nassau and Suffolk Counties — including those of Gilbert.

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by Anonymousreply 71July 15, 2023 3:11 AM

Thank goodness they finally found this monster.

by Anonymousreply 72July 15, 2023 3:30 AM

R62 The Hunt for the Long Island Serial Killer.-

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by Anonymousreply 73July 15, 2023 3:55 AM

I can't believe it," the neighbor said, before noting that other criminal cases in Massapequa Park were giving the city a poor reputation. "It's giving Massapequa Park people a really bad name. But I got to tell you, this is one of the best communities to live in. I mean, we got a great school system," he told PEOPLE, later adding that it was "very unfair" that crimes like these put a "big schmear" on the community.

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by Anonymousreply 74July 15, 2023 7:29 AM

If he had done this to boys every gay in the country would be sent to camps.

by Anonymousreply 75July 15, 2023 7:36 AM

[quote]Neighbor Says Alleged Long Island Serial Killer Was a 'Quiet' Woodworker, Kept to Himself

The classic description. Whenever anyone is described as a quiet person who keeps to himself, I just assume he's a serial killer.

by Anonymousreply 76July 15, 2023 7:42 AM

How did this fat pig get away with burying bodies near a beach???

by Anonymousreply 77July 15, 2023 7:43 AM

If they make a movie about this serial killer , do you think the straight community or the LI residents will protest , like a bunch of clueless morons claiming this movie that had not been made yet reflects poorly on their community?

by Anonymousreply 78July 15, 2023 8:55 AM

The 'quiet' or 'loner' description for pretty much any killer they can make it fit for is such a trope. I find it annoying because most of these killers were just normal people with normal social relations - it's demonizing quiet people (yes, I am one myself).

by Anonymousreply 79July 15, 2023 9:08 AM

(I mean, normal people as in that in a lot of these cases nobody thought it of them, so they were passing as normal people.)

by Anonymousreply 80July 15, 2023 9:09 AM

I did not follow this case, but overall this is one lurid, tragic, and disturbing story..

and as usual the horrid Daily Mail as all the info- the internet searches he made- word by word--

He googled the sister of a victim so he could call and taunt her...

These woman were apparently strangled- so this guy has a serious rage inside him-

Fucking scary-

by Anonymousreply 81July 15, 2023 9:23 AM

Pursed lips, evil squinty eyes and a face that looks like it could be very evil.

Oh wait… he is evil! He is a damn Serial Killer.

by Anonymousreply 82July 15, 2023 9:28 AM

I cannot wait to hear all his other rich friends try to disassociate themselves with him. I wonder if he lit up a room and was as sweet as Candy. Omg 😱 say it isn’t so… but he was so nice… kind… blah blah blah.

by Anonymousreply 83July 15, 2023 9:32 AM

In OP's pic, he reminds me of an obese, alcoholic Tucker Carlson. Is this guy an actual architect or a desk monkey processing paperwork? Glad they caught this dangerous psycho.

by Anonymousreply 84July 15, 2023 9:44 AM

[quote]I can't believe it," the neighbor said, before noting that other criminal cases in Massapequa Park were giving the city a poor reputation. "

Joey Buttafuoco and Amy Fisher were from Massapequa too.

by Anonymousreply 85July 15, 2023 10:06 AM

Massapequa Park is right next to Amityville so maybe he can blame the house.

I still don’t understand how he was in Oak Beach. Vacation home? Friend’s house? Architecture job?

by Anonymousreply 86July 15, 2023 10:39 AM

r86 it was just a short drive from his house and he probably knew about it because he may have done work there or had known someone there. I grew up 10 minutes away from Massapequa in Levittown and I don't ever remember even hearing the name Gilgo Beach so it must have been pretty private. I only knew about jones Beach.

by Anonymousreply 87July 15, 2023 10:52 AM

R87 I live in Long Beach and we usually drive via Ocean Parkway when going to Suffolk county (it is a scenic drive) The Jones Beach communities are basically just a single road with maybe 50 - 100 houses and no normal other things so a random car would stick out and I imagine everyone knows everyone and all of their guests.

by Anonymousreply 88July 15, 2023 11:02 AM
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by Anonymousreply 89July 15, 2023 11:30 AM

r88 someone did spot his truck which is one of the reasons they caught him.

by Anonymousreply 90July 15, 2023 11:34 AM

his search history, yikes! and didn't he torment the relatives of the victims for years? this guy is really dark.

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by Anonymousreply 91July 15, 2023 11:55 AM

YES R91^^ That was the most frightening part to me

WHAT THE FUCK- That article is crazy. i never expected this..

Isn't he well off? Why is he living in a dump? I expected that he was the "nice neighbor' kind of guy...

I never expected that he was known as the neighborhood weirdo with the creepy and shitty house... Wow.

by Anonymousreply 92July 15, 2023 11:59 AM

[QUOTE]I never expected that he was known as the neighborhood weirdo with the creepy and shitty house..

He wasn't though? Nobody seemed to have suspected him. You're kind of retrofitting this now that you know that he killed the women.

by Anonymousreply 93July 15, 2023 12:02 PM

Woodworking= dismembering corpses and stuffing the remains in burlap sacks?

Shannan's remains was not cut up? Is this why cops know she isn't one of his victims? Did Shannan od out there?

The perp cried to his attorney and said he didn't do it. He is telling the truth, he did not kill Shannan but all them other women? And who knows how many? he did.

The wife's DNA being found on or near the victims is a shocking twist. The wife and kids were out of town when he went on a killing spree. What dna was found and where.

by Anonymousreply 94July 15, 2023 12:07 PM

R93- Did you read the article?

I figured he was known as a good nerdy neighbor with a nice house..

Pilfering oranges at Whole foods?

Not at all what I suspected, I figured he was the type with a good image, polite, well liked, beautiful home...

by Anonymousreply 95July 15, 2023 12:07 PM

Quiet is code for neighborhood weirdo. "Architect" or building management?

by Anonymousreply 96July 15, 2023 12:12 PM

R95 No-one suspected him before the police got their DNA and phone evidence. Now everyone is retrofitting their recollections.

by Anonymousreply 97July 15, 2023 12:17 PM

He sounds like one of those self-proclaimed “building engineer” types . They are actually glorified maintenance people. But it does sound like he learned to navigate the bureaucracy , so that’s a skill I suppose.

I’m guessing if he had formal education the NYT would gave delved into that.

by Anonymousreply 98July 15, 2023 12:18 PM

R89- Would someone be kind enough to gift that article? Tia

I remember watching a documentary about this case years ago. It was very creepy and disturbing. I only remember that four of the victims had been discovered at that time, each buried eerily alike right off of the beach ( looked sandy) road. This was still at a time when they didn't know if the victim who called for help and disappeared onevid his victims or not. There were a lot of rumors about a law enforcement officers being involved in these murders.

by Anonymousreply 99July 15, 2023 12:18 PM

As violent and hateful our society is, murderers and rapists do NOT fit in. Their interest is a solitary pursuit. The exception being the Hillside strangler and the Killer Clown who paid a boyfriend to build up the crawlspace in his house.

by Anonymousreply 100July 15, 2023 12:19 PM

[quote]As violent and hateful our society is, murderers and rapists do NOT fit in.

Afraid that you're very much wrong on this. There are many examples of serial killers who married, had children, normal jobs, did not flag up on people's radars yet they were still killing people. I could name so many examples.

by Anonymousreply 101July 15, 2023 12:23 PM

How can DeinSanity blame this all on the woke mob or gays?

by Anonymousreply 102July 15, 2023 12:47 PM

It looks like another one hiding behind the flag 🇺🇸

by Anonymousreply 103July 15, 2023 12:55 PM

He should have also used the cross ✝️

by Anonymousreply 104July 15, 2023 12:58 PM

R92 There's a concept called disgust sensitivity and psychopaths actually tend to be very low in it, they can tolerate bad smells and disgusting imagery and might only bother with hygiene or cleaning their environment to impress or appease others so it actually tracks with the profile.

by Anonymousreply 105July 15, 2023 1:22 PM

Wow.. Thank you R105

by Anonymousreply 106July 15, 2023 1:27 PM

[quote] Neighbor reveals they threw away candy he gave kids on Halloween and banned them from going near his 'creepy' home

by Anonymousreply 107July 15, 2023 1:28 PM

Architects keep homes as a show piece of their professional life. And would never choose to live in that part of Wrong Island.

by Anonymousreply 108July 15, 2023 1:35 PM

He looks like Coach Biest

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by Anonymousreply 110July 15, 2023 4:01 PM

The loner profile doesn’t really work for him, since he is married with two kids. I wonder what the wife is like.

by Anonymousreply 111July 15, 2023 4:10 PM

How would a wife’s dna get on several of the bodies while his does not , at least on those same bodies?

by Anonymousreply 112July 15, 2023 4:27 PM

Strands of the wife's hair were found on evidence around the bodies.

by Anonymousreply 113July 15, 2023 4:30 PM

VERY CURIOUS, R112. I will be following the story with interest

by Anonymousreply 114July 15, 2023 4:30 PM

Clearly, she framed him.

by Anonymousreply 115July 15, 2023 4:31 PM

Most architects don’t make that much money. His business was expediting building permits and helping construction projects navigate the NYC Dept of Buildings regulations not designing homes for rich people He was a middle-middle class guy who lived in the modest house he grew up in, but he obviously didn’t do much upkeep.

by Anonymousreply 116July 15, 2023 4:33 PM

According to this article, the current wife is his second wife. He has a 26-year-old daughter and a special needs son.

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by Anonymousreply 117July 15, 2023 4:42 PM

Maybe he would get the wife to sit on the victims’ faces as a twisted coup de grace

by Anonymousreply 118July 15, 2023 4:43 PM

Family of Evil

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by Anonymousreply 119July 15, 2023 4:44 PM

NYT description of the dumping ground — For a killer looking to hide evidence of his crimes, it was the perfect spot. The straight, quiet stretch of Ocean Parkway would give him plenty of time to listen and watch for coming cars. Just off the road, a tall bramble of bushes and weeds grew so thick and thorny, even trained cadaver-sniffing dogs could barely penetrate it.

by Anonymousreply 120July 15, 2023 4:55 PM

[quote]The accused architect’s mother, Dolores, 93, is still alive.

Jesus...imagine living to the age of 93 and discovering your son is a prolific serial killer. Well, maybe she has dementia and won't care.

by Anonymousreply 121July 15, 2023 4:56 PM

Do people actually hang out at that beach or is it deserted?

by Anonymousreply 122July 15, 2023 5:07 PM

You can just imagine what they would with a beached whale 🐳

by Anonymousreply 123July 15, 2023 5:15 PM

I’m listening to the LISK podcast now from 2020. It can be a bit of a slog, especially because it paints the girls and their families out to be saints despite the fact that they’re all white trash. (I come from white trash and I know we are far from angels.)

In the episode about Melissa Barthalmey, they cover the calls he made of Melissa’s 15 year old sister using the dead girls cellphone. He would taunt her about Melissa’s death. He also knew things about the 15 year old sister that he learned from the phone. He mocked her as a bastard and a half-breed (bio father black).

It took the police forever to do anything about this. Eventually they were able to trace the cell tower one of the calls was made from — Massapequa.

This girl was 15 and already traumatized by the disappearance of her half-sister.

If this guy is convicted he should be tossed alive into a furnace.

by Anonymousreply 124July 15, 2023 5:16 PM

Cops did a great job rounding this guy up. They knew early on what town he lived in based on the pings from the cell phone towers and they used the same data to conclude he commuted to work.

by Anonymousreply 125July 15, 2023 5:19 PM

Does anybody know why it took them so long to figure it out using the cellphone data? Is this newer analysis technology? It does seem the investigation got bogged down in other issues with the local police over the last decade, but I still don’t understand why it took so long to solve this puzzle if they’ve had the cellphone data (and the description of his car) for the last decade.

by Anonymousreply 126July 15, 2023 5:23 PM

I don't know but I am guessing the investigators took extra precautions to not botch the case.

by Anonymousreply 127July 15, 2023 5:28 PM

I'm fascinated with the forensics used to catch this guy. I see it in action on the ID murder shows. Phone data, DNA on discarded trash, surveillance cameras, and good old witness observations. It warms my heart that evil deviants get caught this way. And yet so many cold cases are still unsolved. Humans can be so cruel.

There is at least one documentary on this case out there. I saw one about the woman who ran off from a "date" and was banging on doors before disappearing. What a dreadful way to die, and after she messed up her life by going into sex work.

by Anonymousreply 128July 15, 2023 5:53 PM

A beached whale 🐳 they would probably fist and snuff

by Anonymousreply 129July 15, 2023 6:26 PM

Has the movie been CASTED yet?

by Anonymousreply 130July 15, 2023 6:32 PM

He looks like the cover photo of Serial Killer magazine. He towers over the police officers at 6'6. What a nightmare death, this massively tall, corpulent, dead eyed sadistic monster and knowing you can't escape.

by Anonymousreply 131July 15, 2023 6:37 PM

He specifically chose tiny girls despite being a massive blob himself. Piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 132July 15, 2023 6:55 PM

6ft6? That is freakishly tall. Reportedly Edmund Kemper was 6ft9.

by Anonymousreply 133July 15, 2023 6:59 PM

They had to narrow the field down from thousands who may have called from that area and Manhattan. He used burner phones so they did not know his name until last year.

by Anonymousreply 134July 15, 2023 7:15 PM

I'm going to be very interested in the documentaries outlining this case.

by Anonymousreply 135July 15, 2023 7:52 PM

He sort of looks like an older fatter version of Tucker Carlson.

by Anonymousreply 136July 15, 2023 8:13 PM

Fuck he’s even uglier than I thought at r74. He looks not right.

by Anonymousreply 137July 15, 2023 8:14 PM

If a pig took human form, it would look like him

by Anonymousreply 138July 15, 2023 8:29 PM

[quote] and as usual the h̸o̸r̸r̸i̸d̸ 𝙞𝙣𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙢𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚 Daily Mail has all the info

That's why the whole world looks to them for the news

by Anonymousreply 139July 15, 2023 8:32 PM

[quote]That's why the whole world looks to them for the news

No they don't. The Fail has trashy peripheral gossip, right-wing trolling, lots of fake pictures promoting celebs. Other outlets are best for real news.

by Anonymousreply 140July 15, 2023 8:35 PM

Timothée Chalamet IS Rex!

by Anonymousreply 141July 15, 2023 8:44 PM

I’ve always been turned off by tall guys. A lot of them look like beasts

by Anonymousreply 142July 15, 2023 8:44 PM

This prep used a victims mobile phone to call her relatives and taunt them.

by Anonymousreply 143July 15, 2023 8:50 PM

So many people were soooo confident about their theories about the LISK. Many claimed police involvement. Yet no one ever mentioned this guy.

A lot of crow needs to be served up in this case.

by Anonymousreply 144July 15, 2023 8:58 PM

It took me a little while to make the connection but the perp looks very much like a guy I used to know. He was a probation officer who not long into the job was arrested and convicted for coercing female probationers into sex.

Didn't at all see it coming. He seemed serious about his job and from casual contact a nice enough guy despite his unfortunate appearance.

by Anonymousreply 145July 15, 2023 9:05 PM

[quote] Won't link to it, but the Daily Mail already has a ton of stuff up; pics of his shithole house, and even his marriage announcement.

We need a link. It’s not showing up.

by Anonymousreply 146July 15, 2023 9:08 PM

Why is he described an architect

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by Anonymousreply 147July 15, 2023 9:19 PM

How did he kill them? Strangle? Because one article mentioned a hammer? I know all SK are sadistic, but this one seems to be one of the worse we have seen lately. Calling the sister of a victim is demonic.

by Anonymousreply 148July 15, 2023 9:32 PM

Leo could play this guy but Christian Bale would be better. Bale has more gravitas. Physically, John C. Reilly is a closer match but he is too sympathetic and likeable.

by Anonymousreply 149July 15, 2023 9:47 PM

Russell Crowe!!!

by Anonymousreply 150July 15, 2023 9:49 PM

[quote] I can't believe it," the neighbor said, before noting that other criminal cases in Massapequa Park were giving the city a poor reputation. "

[quote]Joey Buttafuoco and Amy Fisher were from Massapequa too.

Jessica Hahn who was raped by Jim Bakker that started who the whole PTL scandal is from Massapequa too.

by Anonymousreply 151July 15, 2023 9:51 PM

Here’s the thing. This guy is obviously a monster. But what do lawyers call it when they are aggravating circumstances? I don’t know the term, but the fucking phone calls he made to the sister, for me, they take it to an even higher level if that’s even possible. Just like EARSON, who also looooved to torment victims with repeated prank calls “I’m gonna kiiiiiillll you! I’m gonna kiiiiiilll you!” It is a very special level of sadism that I think is uncommon, *even amongst serial killers*. YES, they’re all not human. But to torture the family AFTER horrifically ending a sibling’s life? That is indeed next level.

What does that say? I think it says his heart is as purely filled with hatred, it’s a hatred so deep, so putrid, so twisted and distorted, that not one of us here can truly understand it or comprehend it. We aren’t built to comprehend it. And that is why, while I despise the pigs in most ways, we MUST respect those who deal with this level of violence. Once it enters your psyche, you are not the same person any longer. It marks you. It changes you.

I am the person who volunteers in a jail. I work with violent offenders weekly. But the funny thing is, none of them in five years have ever felt evil at all!!! But the ones who go to classes and seminars actually want to change and grow. I know there are indeed those in the jail who are “monsters” or whatever word you choose, but I don’t interact with them because they don’t choose to attend classes. Only one person scared me because he pursued me romantically, and I set firm boundaries, but he was a genius and a manipulator, and the last time I looked in his eyes — I felt afraid. I don’t want to say who he killed, but it was disturbing enough that I had him removed.

This guy will likely also not engage in any programming in jail and then prison. He will keep to himself. His size will give him enormous protection, though there may be a crazy person who still tests him by trying to fight him. I sure as fuck wouldn’t want to share a cell with this creature.

I just hope the families can start healing. I don’t like calling people white trash — these are the poor, it’s that simple. And they belong to us, we need to own that we built this society. These poor girls did not deserve to die, and they DO deserve justice, just like any other victim.

by Anonymousreply 152July 15, 2023 9:52 PM

Vincent D'Onofrio

by Anonymousreply 153July 15, 2023 9:53 PM

If he had not chosen to steal a victims mobile phone and call her family to taunt them, cops would not have known very early on in their investigation that he is a commuter from Massapequa.

by Anonymousreply 154July 15, 2023 9:59 PM

R152- Brilliant. Great insight. And yes, the taunting messages are the key indicator to me that this guy is next level.

The only serial killer (or any killer) I have ever heard of taunting victims/families was EARONS (and possibly the Zodiak Killer?)

by Anonymousreply 155July 15, 2023 10:02 PM

There are others too, they just aren’t as famous. Years ago I read Mindhunter, there was a case where a girl was kidnapped (and murdered) and the family thought she was still alive and I think he even had the girl write her family a long letter prior to him murdering her. So other cases do exist, but yes, Zodiac and EARSON are the big one that I can think of.

I would imagine many of them *want* to contact the family, but they know it increases the odds of being caught.

by Anonymousreply 156July 15, 2023 10:25 PM

R156- Omg, that was gut wrenching. Her name was Sherri, I believe.

by Anonymousreply 157July 15, 2023 10:30 PM

The cruel taunting phone calls is something Trump would do if he, indeed, turns out to be a Serial Killer

by Anonymousreply 158July 15, 2023 10:33 PM

R158- Very true, he would.

by Anonymousreply 159July 15, 2023 10:38 PM

Um r158? He DID do that. He used to do shit like talk to husbands about what it was like for them to bang their wives — while he had actually banged them too!!!! So yes, Trump did indeed do this. He victimized married couples and then sadistically taunted the husbands and was mercilessly laughing at them watching their reaction as they talked graphically about sex.

by Anonymousreply 160July 15, 2023 10:42 PM

R160-I wish one of the husbands had shot him dead.

by Anonymousreply 161July 15, 2023 10:46 PM

Yes r161 — they would have saved the entire world. I read a biography of him by that incredible journalist, I think his name is David Allen Coe maybe? It’s in his book, and it’s much worse than what I wrote here, I don’t recall the exact details, but it was DISGUSTING, and I fucking hate his guts.

by Anonymousreply 162July 15, 2023 10:49 PM

[quote] I don’t know the term, but the fucking phone calls he made to the sister, for me, they take it to an even higher level if that’s even possible.

No, violently ending the life of another person is worse than saying scary/mean things on the telephone.

by Anonymousreply 163July 15, 2023 10:54 PM

R163- i said that aspect TAKES IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL

As in, depravity- evil- ect...

this motherfucker is next level- evil.

by Anonymousreply 164July 15, 2023 10:56 PM

R163 lacks reading comprehension.

by Anonymousreply 165July 15, 2023 11:02 PM

To the person who asked about the beaches, please read the geography section in the link below. The Western end of the Island with Jones Beach State Park and the theater is very busy over the summer, but has no housing. The central and Eastern portions have small single street “communities” running parallel to the parkway on the north side, some with marinas and beaches to the south of the Parkway. The beaches in these areas are all restricted to some extent; either to the homeowners on the North side of the Parkway or to town of Babylon residents.

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by Anonymousreply 166July 15, 2023 11:03 PM

Does anyone have a link about him calling the families?

by Anonymousreply 167July 15, 2023 11:07 PM

He was spotted on Google Street View.

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by Anonymousreply 168July 15, 2023 11:11 PM

Also Long Island is weird because lots of towns make up a “Town.” Babylon is in Babylon, but so is Lindenhurst and Deer Park and Amityville and and and.

When it isn’t beach season there isn’t much traffic on Ocean Parkway except for people coming to or from Long Beach Island from the East. Even in a place like Merrick the Southern State Parkway or Sunrise Highway are faster.

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by Anonymousreply 169July 15, 2023 11:12 PM

If it's such a small community where everyone knows one another and their visitors and who owns what car I am interested in knowing how one resident was able to order "dates' and neighbors not know what was up.

Shannan Gilbert was on a date, started flipping out and the date was canceled. The John tried to get her out of his home and she would not leave. She called the cops and told them " they are after me". She didn't know where she was and to the cops credit, they kept their patience to try to get a coherent answer from her. Her driver forcibly removed Shannan from the Johns home and she started screaming and ran out in the street.

by Anonymousreply 170July 15, 2023 11:36 PM

Okay, please commit the following to memory: Amy Fisher (teen slut and later just a stripper) is NOT from Massapequa. Amy Fisher (teen slut, and later just a stripper) was raised in the town of Merrick. Merrick.

Massapequa has enough infamy without her.

Joey Buttafucco is from Massapequa. He is one of their own, along with the others listed in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 171July 15, 2023 11:42 PM

^ Shannon’s story is the most curious part of this saga. Did this guy in fact kill her — or no? Did someone post that he told his lawyer he did not kill her (alluding that the others were his)? At first I thought that she had a psychotic breakdown AND that he killed her. Now I think that she had a psychotic break and that it is very possible someone else actually killed her! Which is insane. They had the record of the house she was at, they know who that John was, and there was that creepy dude who inserted himself in her case. Could it be that he is her killer (other creepy dude) but not this giant troll?

by Anonymousreply 172July 15, 2023 11:42 PM

[quote] violently ending the life of another person is worse than saying scary/mean things on the telephone.

Unhinged people revel in the thought of people they dislike being murdered. It makes them feel special.

by Anonymousreply 173July 15, 2023 11:47 PM

The perp said he didn't do it.

If it refers to Shannan Gilberts death, he told the truth.

He is being charged with the murder of four victims not including Shannan Gilbert's.

Investigators found the remains of 11 people including an Asian male and a toddler.

by Anonymousreply 174July 15, 2023 11:54 PM

So what was this beach, just a convenient place for anyone with a dead body to drop it off? Are the charges for four murders because those are all they have evidence for implicating him? Because there’re still seven more dead people. Four is creepy enough. Creepier to think if there’s more than one serial killer.

by Anonymousreply 175July 16, 2023 12:00 AM

I don't know the cause of Shannan Gilberts death. The only connection between her death and this serial killer is that her death revealed the remains of many others. This guy used dismemberment of the remains wrapped in burlap to get rid of his victims. I don't know if the other victims were found in this condition.

Investigators kept things quiet and deserve credit for the dedication and discretion. It's one thing to know a guy did it and another thing to prove he did.

by Anonymousreply 176July 16, 2023 12:05 AM

Re: Google street view @ r168 - Oh my fuck. How do ppl find this shit?

by Anonymousreply 177July 16, 2023 12:10 AM

DNA on three victims that belonged to his wife? Isn't that unusual? Not that I suspect she is involved in the murders, it just seems unusual.

by Anonymousreply 178July 16, 2023 12:16 AM

Shannan was a sex worker who had a slight build, she had this in common with the victims. One neighbor who opened the door to her called the cops and described Shannan as a 14 year old kid.

Shannan advertised on Craigslist to find clients, this is also a shared set of circumstances with his victims.

by Anonymousreply 179July 16, 2023 12:18 AM

R178 Possibly he used a sheet or blanket from the family home to transport the bodies?

by Anonymousreply 180July 16, 2023 12:20 AM

Everything about this is very fucking weird. It is a relief this guy is in custody but what about the others bodies found? It's too crazy.

by Anonymousreply 181July 16, 2023 12:24 AM

R180- Good thinking! He looks nasty like he would reek of BO. He could have had transferred her DNA just from being a filthy pig who never showers.

by Anonymousreply 182July 16, 2023 12:34 AM

Look at 0:55 in the video at R50. Does anybody think that could be Heuermann, just younger and thinner?

by Anonymousreply 183July 16, 2023 12:35 AM

R178, I have long hair and went to lunch yesterday in a friend's car. Return trip, I noticed one of my long hairs on the dashboard. I don't know why but long hair will get everywhere --- maybe each hair is weightier, or it's more noticeable.

Happens even when brushed thoroughly, so I usually wear it up, and always when cooking or serving guests.

by Anonymousreply 184July 16, 2023 12:35 AM

R184- Very good example ,I remember leaving strands of my hair when it was long as well. Animal hair is another example. If you have ever owned a pet you know it gets everywhere, and I mean everywhere, lol. It was a few years ago when I watched the documentary on this case, but am recalling it correctly - at the time they had only found four victims?

by Anonymousreply 185July 16, 2023 12:44 AM

Shannon Gilbert was bipolar and stopped taking her meds according to her parents. She went off with one of the guys to score drugs. She went to peoples houses for help. They let her in and she ran off again. Those people called the police, including a woman. Shannon either had a psychotic break or was on something. The 911 tapes make this clear. Even the guys are heard on the phone asking her to leave. That she’s scaring them. Her responses don’t even make sense.

by Anonymousreply 186July 16, 2023 12:54 AM

If this perp did not do "it", how did his wife's hair (or DNA) end up on or near the remains of three victims?

The investigation revealed that wife was out of town when the victims were killed.

by Anonymousreply 187July 16, 2023 1:19 AM

He is being charged with four murders. All of them were found by him through the adult service advertising in Craigslist.

The investigation revealed that he was communicating with these victims up to the point of their murders.

And in one instance even after killing he contacted a victims family and used precise language only the killer would know about the victim.

So that leaves all those other bodies found including the unidentified Asian male and a toddler.

It's already been said many times that it's unlikely that multiple serial killers are using the same dumping ground.

Mafia dumping ground?

by Anonymousreply 188July 16, 2023 1:30 AM

There’s certainly a lot of mafia in the area. But I don’t think killing toddlers is really their thing so maybe serial killer, mafia and random domestic violence dumping ground.

by Anonymousreply 189July 16, 2023 1:33 AM

He used one of his victim's cell phones to call and taunt her family. Nice guy! That affidavit posted above is fascinating - except for his sicko porn searches.

by Anonymousreply 190July 16, 2023 1:33 AM

But the mob makes everything safe! Orderly!

by Anonymousreply 191July 16, 2023 1:35 AM

Shannan did not escape from a home. She got way high, was canceled by her date but wouldn't leave his house until her driver attempted to forcibly remove her from the date's house. Then she ran out of the house and banged on the door of at least two other homes.

I only know this from listening to her 911 call and the 911 calls of neighbors who tried to help her.

by Anonymousreply 192July 16, 2023 1:44 AM

This is just odd. Two serial killers using the same dumping ground? If they both kill a victim the same night do they flip a coin to see how gets the burial site first? Serial killer ethics? Then there is a victim who was frightened, being chased, near his home and the his kill site but she wasn't killed by him? Wth?

by Anonymousreply 193July 16, 2023 1:48 AM

In the French guy interview video upthread, I can see how the perp might be able to gain the trust of his victims. He seems like a big goofy guy; an average suburban dad with disposable cash and an avuncular manner.

by Anonymousreply 194July 16, 2023 1:49 AM

Couldn't it just be a case of the police having less evidence to charge him for those other murders right now? I find it hard to believe he wasn't involved in more than four.

by Anonymousreply 195July 16, 2023 1:53 AM

I didn't expect that he'd live in a ramshackle dump, especially with him being an architect, owning his own firm in Mid-town, too.

by Anonymousreply 196July 16, 2023 1:55 AM

1.He found his victims through Craigslist.

2.He disposed of his victims in a similar fashion.

3. The most shocking thing of all is that his wife's DNA was found on or near three of his victims!

by Anonymousreply 197July 16, 2023 1:57 AM

the victims last communications were with someone using a burner phone and the phone pinged in the same areas as his real phone

by Anonymousreply 198July 16, 2023 2:12 AM

As I mentioned up thread, there are numerous rumors about police involvement in these murders. Cover-ups, prostitution, drugs , just dirty cops covering for each other .

by Anonymousreply 199July 16, 2023 2:12 AM

[quote]I’ve always been turned off by tall guys. A lot of them look like beasts

Tell me you're a midget without telling me you're a midget.

by Anonymousreply 200July 16, 2023 2:46 AM

Accused serial killer Rex Heuermann allegedly 'staged' a car accident in an attempt to swindle $5 million from an elderly woman in 2017

The woman's boyfriend said he pretended to be severely injured for a lawsuit, ultimately receiving $55,000 from an insurance company

The audacious legal action was one of four suits launched by Heuermann between 2014 and 2022, all under the guise of a car accident

by Anonymousreply 201July 16, 2023 2:46 AM

R196 Has the news released video of the interior of the home. It doesn’t look like a shackle from the exterior. Quite nice actually; but a typical type home in that part of Long Island. That home is easily worth close to a million dollars.

by Anonymousreply 202July 16, 2023 2:52 AM

R202 Are you sure you are talking about the same house?

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by Anonymousreply 203July 16, 2023 3:15 AM

R203 oh my. I saw video footage of a truck traveling with evidence removed from the home and I assumed the house on the corner was theirs. That definitely wasn’t the home. My mistake.

by Anonymousreply 204July 16, 2023 3:19 AM

Zillow says $630,000. Probably less after today's news...

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by Anonymousreply 205July 16, 2023 3:25 AM

R205 I think I thought the white colored house to the left was his. I still would not describe it as a shack. It would be considered a modest middle class home in the 70s, though likely built 2 decades earlier. It’s just an old single family home that has now aged. This is a very upper middle class part of Long Island.

by Anonymousreply 206July 16, 2023 3:36 AM

I’m not that poster r206, but I completely agree to you. This house is on the ocean, near one of the most important cities on earth, plus home simply used to be smaller, the size wasn’t a huge factor in value, the value stems from its location.

by Anonymousreply 207July 16, 2023 3:57 AM

*WITH dammit

by Anonymousreply 208July 16, 2023 3:58 AM

Great area to raise a family with a dumping ground nearby. Convenient. The cops went looking for Shannan Gilbert and found 10 additional bodies, this is 11 too many

by Anonymousreply 209July 16, 2023 4:09 AM

"When Amanda answered the phone, you know, she was so excited," Barthelemy said. "'Oh my God, Melissa's finally calling me.' And then, there's a guy on the other end."

"And this voice is saying, 'Oh, this isn't Melissa,'" Cohen explained.

"...he was soft-spoken and had -- a very controlled and comfortable manner of speech, which made his horrific messages all the more devastating ... he began to toy with her ... And for the very first time, she heard the voice of the killer."

Suffolk County police told "48 Hours" that they believe the caller was, in fact, Melissa's killer.

"I was just hysterical, totally hysterical," said Barthelemy.

The calls didn't stop coming. There were eight in total, including one in which the likely killer spoke to Lynn. He claimed he was with the NYPD and wanted to know if she had filed a missing persons report. But mainly he focused on Melissa's little sister and called to terrify her.

"And the killer said some pretty horrible things to Amanda," Cohen told Moriarty. "Sexually explicit things as to what he had done to Melissa, sexually explicit things as to what he was going to do to Amanda."

After the third call, police asked Verizon to tap Amanda's phone.

Authorities were able to trace some of the calls to a handful of busy locations in midtown Manhattan: near the Port Authority, the Empire State Building and Times Square. The caller always hung up before he could be identified. But the police were learning a lot about him based on his voice.

"I believe that he is between -- his late 20s and his late 30s," Cohen said. "I've been led to believe by Amanda and by the data that I have that he is a white male."

Much has been made about the caller's familiarity with police investigative techniques. He knew what locations would be difficult to trace and how long he could stay on the phone. That sense of confidence may have driven the caller to reach out to Amanda one last time on Aug. 26, 2009, with a chilling message.

"And he said, 'Do you know what I did to your sister?' And she said, 'No.' He said, 'Well, I killed Melissa,'" Cohen said. "And he also left one of the conversations with the threat that he knows where Amanda lives and might come after her."

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by Anonymousreply 210July 16, 2023 4:31 AM

One of the last things he said to Melissa Barthelemy's sister was, "I'm watching your sister's body rot."

by Anonymousreply 211July 16, 2023 4:43 AM

He definitely gives off piece of shit trash vibes.

How do these trash bags become so trashy?

by Anonymousreply 212July 16, 2023 4:52 AM

WTF DL? I apologize if this is a double, but that link at r210 was confusing with the post because it made me think it was about Shannon and that he had also been charged with Shannon’s death, but it was my bad.

by Anonymousreply 213July 16, 2023 5:20 AM

It is about Shannan because her death led to the discovery of all those victims out there. But Shannan is not one of his victims and her cause of death is undetermined. He did not kill Shannan or call her family.

by Anonymousreply 214July 16, 2023 5:24 AM

The face in the OP is not of a scared innocent man in a Kafka-esque situation. Rather, it is the smug visage of a man guilty and convinced he can outwit the authorities yet again.

by Anonymousreply 215July 16, 2023 5:33 AM

Yes r214, but I’m saying that the >post< was not about Shannon at all. Why put that post with that link is all? They are each better as individual posts, just my two cents. You will get old and high someday too, kid.

But to you link, that does indeed seem to indicate that there was a second killer!!!! So my next question is, but is it a serial killer? That’s quite a few bodies without charges files. So they either simply don’t have the evidence to bring charges or they actually believe he didn’t do them.

The WF orange bowl story is hilarious. BTK was a complete horse ass too, he loved to be as rude as possible and if you challenge him, whoo-wee!! He used that to crucify you to the end of your days on this earth. So bring just complete dicks is another trait we should add to the DL Serial Killer Template.

by Anonymousreply 216July 16, 2023 5:59 AM

He's like a hetero John Wayne Gacy.

Fat pig who allegedly works in the construction arts but lives in a piece-of-shit house.

by Anonymousreply 217July 16, 2023 6:07 AM

Clearly there's only one actor for this role, and it isn't VD'O:

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by Anonymousreply 218July 16, 2023 11:07 AM

[quote]but this one seems to be one of the worse we have seen lately.

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 219July 16, 2023 3:20 PM

What did the guy do with his money? It sounds like the house was paid for and he certainly wasn't house proud. He was involved in scams. Who knows how many went undetected. Where'd the cash go?

by Anonymousreply 220July 16, 2023 5:56 PM

Then: probably special needs kid.

Now: lawyers.

by Anonymousreply 221July 16, 2023 6:06 PM

Here is another angle. He’s in his 50’s now? So these killings started maybe in his late 30’s, correct?

Most serial killers start much much younger than that, isn’t the average age mid-20’s? He’s lived in that house I believe all his life. The police are going to have a hell of a time verifying when his first kill really happened, we may never know. This man was very very cunning. It is possible that in his youth, his hunting ground was Manhattan. Then as he got older, he got slightly lazier and honed his craft, and opted to do it from his home turf. If he was killing sex workers in Manhattan, I seriously doubt that they will ever be able to prove it, UNLESS they reopen old cases and test for DNA. Needle in a haystack.

by Anonymousreply 222July 16, 2023 7:04 PM

It seems like he might have been living with the first wife in Jersey for a while?

by Anonymousreply 223July 16, 2023 7:12 PM

It obvious he was hired muscle for the mob to get rid of these young pros who had witnessed things they should not have. Simultaneously he was also a psychopath who got off on killing prostitutes. His participation in an underground sex ring which involved the most prominent members of high society including the NYC mayor, was his hunting ground. Meanwhile a prominent doctor used the slaying to cover up the murder of his wife. The wife had started an affair with the chief of police and the chief was framed for her slaying. Simultaneously an anti vaccine group begins protests around the city arguing that vaccines cause autism. And the serial killer’s wife shoots the murderous doctor in open court ending in a cliff hanger that will be resolved on our sister show Law & Order: Organized Crime.

by Anonymousreply 224July 16, 2023 7:17 PM

Hopefully he will eventually confess to all his killings.

by Anonymousreply 225July 16, 2023 7:23 PM

I recently met a social worker who worked with serial killers in the prison system. She said each one was a pathological narcissist and they get caught because they have grandiose fantasies that they are smarter than everyone else. So they get sloppy and leave evidence because they assume they won’t be captured.

This sick fuck—call the girls’ families from their phones and taunting them. The death penalty is too good for him I hope he’s brutally tortured in prison every day of his miserable life.

by Anonymousreply 226July 16, 2023 7:38 PM

R226 It wasn’t Rex who called Shannen’s family. That’s the only victim with known calls to the family but she was killed by someone else or an accident. Her actual cause of death is ruled accidental.

by Anonymousreply 227July 16, 2023 7:49 PM

He might horde cash or have a huge bank balance/401k saving.

Like r221 said, now all going to lawyers.

by Anonymousreply 228July 16, 2023 8:48 PM

Of course they all think: "I'm always the smartest guy in the room.", R226. Evil and/or crazy people always seem to think stuff like that, don't they? It's never a normal, kind person.

I'm glad they finally caught this p.o.s. I hope he gets Dahmer-ed in jail.

by Anonymousreply 229July 16, 2023 8:55 PM

I’ve been watching some video of this on YouTube and that Suffolk DA is really angling to get in the limelight on this. Meanwhile he took office about eight months ago, AFTER they had tentatively identified this fat slob as the killer.

by Anonymousreply 230July 16, 2023 10:02 PM

Is it true that local LE refused FBI help? I read that the local LE didn't want the Feds involved.

by Anonymousreply 231July 16, 2023 10:14 PM

R231 It is very true which is why I made a thread about it. The former Suffolk County police chief went to prison for corruption and was adamant the FBI not be involved.

by Anonymousreply 232July 16, 2023 10:18 PM

I missed that thread. Thanks for linking.

by Anonymousreply 233July 16, 2023 10:38 PM

R232, if you have a link I would love to read your thread — I do recall that part of the story too. When that happened, I really did think we had a cop who was the killer. It made my spidey senses go off witnessing what the police did, but corruption is caused by many factors so it’s possible that their corruption had zero to do with why this case stalled, or the stall was a red herring and had no basis in the case itself.

by Anonymousreply 234July 16, 2023 11:25 PM

R220, billion dollar question.

by Anonymousreply 235July 17, 2023 12:09 AM

I am from a family of addicts, both sides and the not having any money thing is a red flag. Addicts don't have money because everything goes into their addiction of choice.

by Anonymousreply 236July 17, 2023 12:36 AM

R226 The killer called Melissa Barthelemy's teenage sister multiple times.

by Anonymousreply 237July 17, 2023 12:57 AM

LE on LI could be protecting mafia assuming it is a multipurpose purpose dumping ground for dead bodies.

by Anonymousreply 238July 17, 2023 12:57 AM

YES Elderlez, I think you’re onto something with that theory, it just rings true. That area seems like prime mob dumping grounds, like The Pines.

by Anonymousreply 239July 17, 2023 1:07 AM

I mean come on! ELEVEN bodies and dude is charged with "only" four murders!

by Anonymousreply 240July 17, 2023 1:09 AM

Mobsters usually kill other mob guys, not females

by Anonymousreply 241July 17, 2023 1:17 AM

They should let the families of the victims decide his fate. Hove them weapons and leave them in a room with him.

by Anonymousreply 242July 17, 2023 1:17 AM

There’s a dead guy amongst the 11.

by Anonymousreply 243July 17, 2023 1:18 AM

R240- I'm not buying it or the that two SK's picked the same dump site , and until I read the cause / manner of death for Shannon I am not believing she wasn't murdered by him either. I have no idea wth is going on , but this is actually insulting, imo. They could have at the very least come up with a credible lie.

by Anonymousreply 244July 17, 2023 1:19 AM

R244, I honestly don’t know enough to have an informed opinion, but I will say this — the police have not stated that they don’t believe he committed ALL of the killings. We have assume that they don’t yet have enough evidence to win those other cases in a prosecution. That also don’t need mean that there won’t be additional charges coming. For all we know, he could even make a full confession a la BTK style in open court. Time will tell, it’s always best in these types of cases to reserve judgment until more information is made public.

by Anonymousreply 245July 17, 2023 1:23 AM

Curious to know if this spot is still used as a dumping ground. Have more victims been discovered by cops after this investigation began?

by Anonymousreply 246July 17, 2023 1:26 AM

"I mean come on! ELEVEN bodies and dude is charged with 'only' four murders!"

They needed to get this guy in custody as soon as possible to prevent him from killing again. What don't you get about that?

by Anonymousreply 247July 17, 2023 1:28 AM

R245- Thank you for the clarification and my apologies for not understanding what was being said. I thought the police were claiming two different SK used the same dump site. But if iirc, there were rumors of the possibility of two different killers , at least the first 2 or 3 years into the investigation. One suspect was a doctor, I believe. Also there has been quite a lot talk of police officers being involved in as well.

by Anonymousreply 248July 17, 2023 1:30 AM

r246 Hurricane Sandy decimated that beach so a lot of stuff was lost and maybe more bodies. I doubt very much that anyone is currently using it as a dumping ground because it is being watched so closely.

The police said they are now looking into whether they can connect this guy to any of the other murders. I think they wanted to get him on the ones they were sure about.

by Anonymousreply 249July 17, 2023 1:30 AM

I would be surprised if there wasn't more victims. He has been killing for many years.

by Anonymousreply 250July 17, 2023 1:34 AM

My goodness r248, you are so welcome! I remember that rumor too. I’m not sure what to think about one versus two killers because I still can’t understand what happened to poor Shannon. If the cops knew her John was not him, then what are the odds that he heard her racket that night and took her out? Does anyone here know how close Shannon was to this demon’s house that night?

Also, I love Elderlez. She’s a smart cookie, do not fuck with her or I will cut you.

by Anonymousreply 251July 17, 2023 1:38 AM

No. You are wrong again. He is charged with the four murders because cops know he communicated with these 4 victims right up to their disappearance. With a burner phone. He found his victims on Craigslist Adult services. And he disposed of his victims in a similar fashion. Three victims had his wife's DNA on or around their remains. He did not kill Shannan Gilbert. What do you not understand about this? He is not responsible for all of the rest of these bodies including the Asian male and the toddler.

by Anonymousreply 252July 17, 2023 1:40 AM

R252- I have no problem understanding what they are saying, my problem is believing them. What can't you understand about that? They make these claims but will not say why not give any information on why her death wasn't considered a murder. If it was accidental what happened? What kind of accident? She was very close to his home, confused, terrified and her body found at his kill site?

by Anonymousreply 253July 17, 2023 1:49 AM

r253 the reason they didn't believe she was murdered was because she kept going from house to house for help and when they would try to help her she would run off and go to the next house. She acted like a looney tune.

by Anonymousreply 254July 17, 2023 1:52 AM

I looked up the cause of death for Shannan Gilbert last night on Google and it was declared undetermined.

That girl was higher than a kite. She may have overdosed but the medical examiner does not know what caused her death.

by Anonymousreply 255July 17, 2023 2:00 AM

R254- Thank you for being patient with me. When I watched the documentary they played the recordings from her and I have never been able to forget the terror in her voice. It is difficult to believe she wasn't a victim that night because of it but stranger things have happened.

by Anonymousreply 256July 17, 2023 2:02 AM

R255- Yes, you are right. OD, accident, exposure, it could have been anything, sadly.

by Anonymousreply 257July 17, 2023 2:05 AM

Hold the phone. Wasn’t Shannon’s body found with her pants down??? I remember that quite clearly. Yes, Shannon had a complete break with reality. But that doesn’t explain her pants. It is an incredible coincidence that she ended up in that particular location. Wouldn’t a human have survived the night? Sure, you could get terribly lost in the brambles, but you would also hear the ocean and when the sun rose, she would have been able by sound to gradually find her way to the beach or the road. I believe it was around 2:30am when she called 911, so dawn would have begun in just a few hours from when she got “lost” in the dumping grounds of a serial killer.

Oh! And she also just happened to be a prostitute too. Come on, it’s just soooo many coincidences, though I do understand that they can happen, they just seem to be too big to me.

by Anonymousreply 258July 17, 2023 2:07 AM

R255- I am sad she died but glad that she wasn't killed by that grotesque beast.

by Anonymousreply 259July 17, 2023 2:09 AM

R255, whether she OD’ed or was drugged, wouldn’t the autopsy require a toxicology report? I do think it’s possible she was drugged (and mentally ill) at the same time. How does a prostitute end up in a killing field with other dead prostitutes, but it just coincidence? I just can’t buy that.

Undetermined does not eliminate murder. It only means they just don’t know, so we cannot rule out her murder, sorry kids. Doesn’t matter what the coppers say, “undetermined” means exactly that. We just do not know. I want to know if they did a toxicology screening on her.

by Anonymousreply 260July 17, 2023 2:11 AM

@r172 as baffling as it is, it’s hard to tie RH to Shannan Gilbert. He would’ve had to have been at the party or around, it seems he worked alone. So strange that she died 6 miles away from where another SK was killing SWs.

by Anonymousreply 261July 17, 2023 2:13 AM

R261- She was 6 miles from his home? Is that where she was found, 6 miles away and at the dump site?

by Anonymousreply 262July 17, 2023 2:15 AM

We need a map with RH’s house along with the John and then her body.

by Anonymousreply 263July 17, 2023 2:21 AM

Every time I see "Shannan," I think of the Chris Watts case. His wife's name was "Shanann" - pronounced like "Shazam!"

by Anonymousreply 264July 17, 2023 2:22 AM

The medical examiner doesn't know what the cause of death was.

The four women he is charged with murdering were in direct contact with this guy.

Shannan had no contact with him. She was on a date with someone else that was canceled because she was behaving erratically.

by Anonymousreply 265July 17, 2023 2:22 AM

I thought Shannon was on the date for several hours?

by Anonymousreply 266July 17, 2023 2:24 AM

This guy dismembered his victim's body and wrapped the remains in burlap. Shannan and the others were not found in this condition.

by Anonymousreply 267July 17, 2023 2:26 AM

When I listened to the 911 calls I got the impression Shannan had holed up in a bathroom to get high, the John got spooked by her erratic behavior and cancelled the date.

by Anonymousreply 268July 17, 2023 2:34 AM

"How does a prostitute end up in a killing field with other dead prostitutes, but it just coincidence? I just can’t buy that."

But you CAN buy that Rex Heuermann lurked in a marsh for hours or days at a time, just hoping that a prostitute would wander into it?

by Anonymousreply 269July 17, 2023 2:35 AM

anyway, went off on a tangent. Who is responsible for the other murders? This is too nuts.

by Anonymousreply 270July 17, 2023 2:38 AM

Point taken r269, I guess I hadn’t considered that perspective. But no, I never imagined RH was hanging out in beach brambles. I guess what I envisioned is that she was captured and killed, THEN disposed of in those brambles after her death. Also the fact that Shannon kept using the word “they” made me wonder if there was more than one John. Could RH have known this John/doctor or whoever he was? Idk. Everything in me believes she was murdered, but I also own that I may be completely wrong lol.

by Anonymousreply 271July 17, 2023 2:43 AM

Shannan used the word they but when a neighbor opened up his door to her and advised her to sit put until the cops showed up, she jumped up and ran out into the street again!

by Anonymousreply 272July 17, 2023 2:48 AM

Is Rex Heuermann posting in this thread?

by Anonymousreply 273July 17, 2023 2:48 AM

If "they" are after you, why run out in the street after being offered a place to sit down until the cops show up? that girl was so high she did not know where she was or who she was with.

by Anonymousreply 274July 17, 2023 2:58 AM

Because you’re a) hysterical b) high c) crazy and d) you fear and distrust men. Some women, particularly sex workers, are so incredibly damaged by men that they fear all of them and trust none of them. Trauma will do that.

by Anonymousreply 275July 17, 2023 3:11 AM

They may never find the person who killed the other people. What’s up with Long Island that ten people were buried on one beach? Gross

by Anonymousreply 276July 17, 2023 5:11 AM

Lawn Guyland - come for the beaches, stay for the dead bodies

by Anonymousreply 277July 17, 2023 6:23 AM

How long after the party was Shannon's body discovered? I'm confused why the coroner couldn't find a COD. The police were called immediately during her freak out, so it had to have been rather quickly, right? Or did it take a while and she was in such a state of decomposition that a COD couldn't be determined.

She was removed from the party by her driver. Did she break free from him and he lost her? Was he an the party guests questioned? And who were the guests, VIPs?

by Anonymousreply 278July 17, 2023 6:30 AM

"Or did it take a while and she was in such a state of decomposition that a COD couldn't be determined."


by Anonymousreply 279July 17, 2023 6:54 AM

Thanks, r279. It sounds like the police didn't make much of an effort to find her. Not surprising.

by Anonymousreply 280July 17, 2023 7:01 AM

11 bodies

Jones Beach Island is 17 miles long.

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by Anonymousreply 281July 17, 2023 9:57 AM

RH lived across the bay from Jones Beach Island on “mainland” Long Island In Massapequa Park. You have to take a boat or drive over. He could not have walked. I assume he took the Wantaugh Parkway although my wife assumes the Robert Moses. (There’s only four bridges to the island, the other two are the Loop and Meadowbrook Parkways)

by Anonymousreply 282July 17, 2023 10:04 AM

Between this guy and Alec Baldwin, Massapequa has proven to be a breeding ground for fucking psychos!

by Anonymousreply 283July 17, 2023 10:24 AM

In the least shocking news ever, Rex is revealed to be a registered Republican. He also did some work for the Trump Organization.

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by Anonymousreply 284July 17, 2023 8:20 PM

I find it strange that Rex Heuermann lived in Massapequa Park and had no residence on Oak beach but yet evidently chose that as his dumping ground. Remains of 3 girls he's linked to (I'm assuming they will find all 4 are linked to him) all craigs list sex workers with 4 more remains only a few miles apart. One, an Asian male is also thought to be connected to the sex trade, the other remains belong to a toddler. This beach though not far from Heuermann's house in Massapequa Park is a big coincidence the remains all there in this more or less desolate strip of land and all have connections to the sex trade. Was it a ring? Same guy? They think Shannon Gilbert is not connected but she also has a lot of similarities to the others. Craig's list prostitute, tiny female, found on same island not far away.

I wonder how they link him to the burner phone calls when he threw away those phones so long ago? The phone company that owned the phone keeps a record? I don't get that part.

by Anonymousreply 285July 17, 2023 8:28 PM

I think he's tremendous!

by Anonymousreply 286July 17, 2023 8:42 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if there's a dead sex worker in Trump's closet.

by Anonymousreply 287July 17, 2023 8:48 PM

I would love to see Shelbey Thornburgh's killer caught too. She was another escort killed by a sick John who used a burner phone. There's surveillance video of him leaving her building but he's never been identified. Her throat was slit during sex and the suspect was in and out in about 23 minutes. Police think he's killed before.

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by Anonymousreply 288July 17, 2023 9:22 PM

[quote] Prior to the bombshell arrest on Thursday of Rex Heuermann over several of the Gilgo Beach murders, the case had been hampered by a series of scandals inside the police department leading the investigation. The disgraced former chief of Suffolk County Police Department, James Burke, was at the center of the storm, which culminated in his imprisonment in 2016 for 46 months for battering a thief who stole a bag from his police car which contained porn and sex toys. Shocking details emerged about Burke's alleged fondness for drugs and prostitutes. Burke is also accused of stymying the Gilgo Beach case in its early stages by blocking the FBI's role in the investigation.

by Anonymousreply 289July 18, 2023 1:23 AM

During his tenure as the highest-ranking uniformed officer in the Suffolk County Police Department, James Burke considered himself untouchable,” United States Attorney Robert Capers said in a statement. “He abused his authority by brazenly assaulting a handcuffed prisoner, he pressured subordinates to lie to cover up his criminal acts, and he attempted to thwart the civil rights investigation into his conduct.

“With today’s sentence, Burke learned that no one is above the law and that the consequences for such egregious behavior are severe.”

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by Anonymousreply 290July 18, 2023 1:26 AM

What are the odds Burke is a registered Republican and Trump supporter?

by Anonymousreply 291July 18, 2023 1:29 AM

I was wondering where Burke was on J6

by Anonymousreply 292July 18, 2023 1:32 AM

[quote] As a teen, Burke was involved in the murder of a 14 year old boy. He was granted immunity, for testifying against his friends, who stuffed rocks down the throat of their victim and killed him.

by Anonymousreply 293July 18, 2023 1:35 AM

These sick fuckers need their kidneys taken during vivisection!

by Anonymousreply 294July 18, 2023 2:50 AM

[quote] I wonder how they link him to the burner phone calls when he threw away those phones so long ago? The phone company that owned the phone keeps a record? I don't get that part.

Perhaps like this. Every American phone call is intercepted. Until 60 Minutes confirmed it people who complained of this were called conspiracy nuts.

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by Anonymousreply 295July 18, 2023 3:17 AM

[quote] Every American phone call is intercepted. This is bullshit.

If 60 minutes reported it, then please produce a 60 Minutes link.

by Anonymousreply 296July 18, 2023 3:28 AM

You twits are never satisfied. You could read the transcript faster than watching the video.

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by Anonymousreply 297July 18, 2023 3:37 AM

FBI searches SC property owned by Gilgo Beach serial killer's relative

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by Anonymousreply 298July 18, 2023 6:19 AM

[Quote]More clicks for Murdoch. Great.

The hall monitor who interjects Murdoch's name into every thread strikes again him.

by Anonymousreply 299July 18, 2023 6:54 AM

A 2022 video of the suspect has emerged..

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by Anonymousreply 300July 18, 2023 6:58 AM

The question on everyone's mind

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by Anonymousreply 301July 18, 2023 7:02 AM

[QUOTE]The question on everyone's mind

that emerged *immediately* was Tucker Carlson's noticeable differences with a wishful "youthful" hairstyle and his immediate corpusulence featuring a stomach protrudence below his belt and the unmistakable face of alcoholic puffiness that resembles accused serial killer Rex Huermann

by Anonymousreply 302July 18, 2023 8:05 AM

[quote]How do these trash bags become so trashy?

Maybe they are born that way, maybe it's Maybelline!

by Anonymousreply 303July 18, 2023 11:22 AM

R285, r295, It's all in the fine print. You can easily enlarge the font size.

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by Anonymousreply 304July 18, 2023 12:57 PM

[quote]What kind of sick fuck kills a toddler

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

by Anonymousreply 305July 18, 2023 1:13 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 306July 18, 2023 1:30 PM

He is 6'6" "According to authorities, the trail led to Heuermann and his green Chevrolet Avalanche, which was recognized by one of the victims' pimp, who allegedly described the killer as a giant "ogre.""

Imagine the shadow this guy cast while he was doing his dirty deeds. The stuff of nightmares.

by Anonymousreply 307July 18, 2023 1:40 PM

The New York Times reports that the killer's family frequently used food stamps. That's very strange, if this POS was the prosperous architect he's portrayed as in some stories. But it checks with the rundown condition of his home.

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by Anonymousreply 308July 18, 2023 2:20 PM

He looks like Tucker Carlson.

by Anonymousreply 309July 18, 2023 2:27 PM

He hasn’t officially been linked to the other bodies, but knowing he searched for “Asian twink” porn makes me wonder about the Asian male who was found, who law enforcement thought may have been transgender. Perhaps he wasn’t…?

by Anonymousreply 310July 18, 2023 2:43 PM

Sorry, I posted the wrong link. This is the right one--the one that says the killer's family used food stamps.

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by Anonymousreply 311July 18, 2023 2:53 PM

Please, don't cast Charlize Theron in the role!

by Anonymousreply 312July 18, 2023 2:54 PM

If his son is special needs/disabled, he's probably on SSI and Medicare. In California, recipients get about $100 monthly in food stamps. Maybe it's the same in NY.

I asked upthread what he spent his undoubtedly good salary and the proceeds from scams he's pulled. Not the house. Someone suggested the money went towards the disabled kid, but the government takes care of him. We're the sex workers he patronized but didn't kill that expensive?

by Anonymousreply 313July 18, 2023 6:03 PM

Did he have a boat?

by Anonymousreply 314July 18, 2023 6:15 PM

R313 authorities found something like 300 guns in his home. I imagine they didn't come cheap.

by Anonymousreply 315July 18, 2023 6:18 PM

Wow, he really embraced that scumbag lifestyle.

And a serial killer to boot.

by Anonymousreply 316July 18, 2023 6:24 PM

[Quote] The question on everyone's mind

[Quote] that emerged *immediately* was Tucker Carlson's noticeable differences with a wishful "youthful" hairstyle and his immediate corpusulence featuring a stomach protrudence below his belt and the unmistakable face of alcoholic puffiness that resembles accused serial killer Rex Huermann

What question does your post answer?

by Anonymousreply 317July 18, 2023 8:36 PM

I wonder if he was actually working as an architect, or merely an architect "consultant." He clearly did not care much about architecture since his house was a dump compared to other houses in the neighborhood. I have so many questions, including what his marriage was like and how his daughter viewed him as a father. They say that psychopaths are incapable of close relationships.

by Anonymousreply 318July 18, 2023 9:27 PM

When they describe what he did, it sounds more like an expeditor job than architect.

by Anonymousreply 319July 18, 2023 9:54 PM

His brother, Craig, is a nut too.

Craig hit his neighbor in the head with a pipe, for mowing his lawn on Sunday. He left business cards in neighbors mailboxes with “I’m an Asshole” written on it.

Did their mother chew on lead paint chips while pregnant?

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by Anonymousreply 320July 18, 2023 9:57 PM

Of course, the DM has the first sighting of the criminal ex-police police chief since the arrest. Link in next p9st.

by Anonymousreply 321July 18, 2023 10:16 PM

Of course, the DM has the first sighting of the criminal ex-police police chief since the arrest. Link in next p9st.

by Anonymousreply 322July 18, 2023 10:17 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 323July 18, 2023 10:19 PM

Typical grifting magat scum. With a higher body count

by Anonymousreply 324July 18, 2023 10:21 PM

The Crown Royal tote bag cracks me up. I imagine that's what he does with his days now that he's retired and collecting a full pension (per the DM) -- sitting around sipping liquor high school students think is cool.

by Anonymousreply 325July 18, 2023 10:38 PM

The brother Craig ran over and killed a cop while under the influence of a controlled substance

by Anonymousreply 326July 18, 2023 10:43 PM

That fucking cops antics delayed the investigation of these murders. As the cliché goes: "justice delayed is justice denied". Perhaps the family of these murdered women can sue that cop for his seven figure pension.

by Anonymousreply 327July 18, 2023 10:49 PM

They closed his business where his daughter worked with him so she's out of work. His wife had no idea of all this and is horrified, humiliated and being the house is now being investigated I take it she cannot live there, at least right now, so she is out of a home presently. They have a special needs kid so the money is not forthcoming from anyone, what happens there? I'm sure that kid costs some money for care. The bills will continue to come in and old serial killer boy has a lawyer on his tab now.

New victims. These guys wreck everybody's lives and he has the nerve to ask 'is it in the news' as if what, 'oh boy, I'm famous?'

by Anonymousreply 328July 18, 2023 11:37 PM

[quote]knowing he searched for “Asian twink” porn makes me wonder about the Asian male who was found, who law enforcement thought may have been transgender. Perhaps he wasn’t…?

The fact that he only searched for gay porn once out of the many searches makes me wonder whether he misunderstood what a "twink" was?

by Anonymousreply 329July 19, 2023 12:19 AM

Wouldn't surprise me, R329. Straight men think EVERYTHING must be about them.

by Anonymousreply 330July 19, 2023 1:18 AM

I think he knew what a twink was. His "tastes" were varied. Different ages of people, etc. He wasn't like Bryan Singer who had a specific sex and age group (allegedly).

by Anonymousreply 331July 19, 2023 1:22 AM

The perp looks like his police sketch in the photos he put up on Tinder, a complete fucking creep. Sinister hooded eyes

But he looks normal in the mugshot, so strange. Everything about this terrible crime is strange.

by Anonymousreply 332July 19, 2023 2:31 AM

And that cop who was a juvenile delinquent in his youth beat up a suspect who stole a handbag belonging to him that contained sex toys and pornographic materials.

Why is a cop rolling around in a police cruiser with a bag filled with sex toys and porn?

by Anonymousreply 333July 19, 2023 2:35 AM

Decent, or even relatively normal neighbors, can't be overvalued.

by Anonymousreply 334July 19, 2023 4:39 AM

A lif-sized doll in a glass case and a portrait of a woman with a battered face. Yikes.

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by Anonymousreply 335July 19, 2023 6:14 AM

Absolutely chilling at R320. Imagine (or maybe it's best not to) what he'd get up to on a 'secluded South Carolina property'.

by Anonymousreply 336July 19, 2023 6:56 AM

He looks exactly like a serial killer. Seriously, what took them so long? Plus "liked to stay to himself"?

by Anonymousreply 337July 19, 2023 7:05 AM

[quote] a portrait of a woman with a battered face

A Norman Rockwell ?

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by Anonymousreply 338July 19, 2023 8:15 AM

R338 From the article (yes, I know it's the NYP!): "The disturbing artwork taken by police features a blond woman’s face with dark pupils and bruising below the eyes."

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by Anonymousreply 339July 19, 2023 8:37 AM

Hearing that Heuermann's family was using food stamps brings Joshua Powell to mind. Powell would give his wife Susan only $10 a week to feed their sons and herself; meanwhile he would get himself pizza (if I remember correctly) and spend thousands on computer equipment. I wonder if Heuermann let his family live in a near-impoverished state while he indulged in his vices.

by Anonymousreply 340July 19, 2023 9:24 AM

...but look at that car!

by Anonymousreply 341July 19, 2023 10:08 AM

"(yes, I know it's the NYP!)"

You can never be shamed enough, R339!!! (Just kidding; I hate the hypocritical schoolmarms who come to a gossip site and then are shocked-- SHOCKED!-- to see gossip there.)

by Anonymousreply 342July 19, 2023 1:46 PM

Yes, R342, for all the bitching about the NYP and the DM, those sites often break stories and have the most pics.

by Anonymousreply 343July 19, 2023 2:40 PM

Amber Costello met with him and ran a scam on him, having an appointment for sex interrupted and she kept the money. Since he got no sex and asked for credit, met with her the next day. The day she disappeared. Since she scammed him I'm thinking it angered him and he probably tortured her before killing.

"Amber Lynn Costello, who was the last of the four Gilgo Beach victims to be killed, invited him into her West Babylon home — and scared him off with a ruse in which her friend pretended to be her irate boyfriend. She then pocketed the money Heuermann left behind before she ever had a chance to perform any sex acts on him. The witnesses with her described him as a large ogre-esque man and identified his first-generation Chevrolet Avalanche to police.

“That was not nice so do i [sic] credit for next time,” Heuermann later texted Costello from Massapequa Park, according to court documents. The records show the witness told investigators, “Amber told us that he wanted to see her again, but he didn’t want to come back to the house because of her boyfriend.”

She was last seen alive the following day after leaving in a vehicle matching the description of Heuermann’s pickup".

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by Anonymousreply 344July 19, 2023 4:16 PM

Definitely not a FMD

by Anonymousreply 345July 19, 2023 5:48 PM

R333 Lunch hour?

by Anonymousreply 346July 19, 2023 10:01 PM

Amber ran out of good fortune. Her last trick is an even bigger grifter than she could have ever been.

A "successful architect" who is on welfare, steals produce from Whole Foods, doesn't pay his taxes and falls in front of cars for settlement money.

by Anonymousreply 347July 19, 2023 10:43 PM

Detectives delving into Rex Heuermann's past

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by Anonymousreply 348July 19, 2023 11:39 PM

Former escort recounts date with suspect Rex Heuermann

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by Anonymousreply 349July 20, 2023 12:01 AM

Shannan Gilbert's Mother Murdered in 2016 by daughter Sarra

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by Anonymousreply 350July 20, 2023 1:00 AM

Wife of Gilgo Beach murders suspect Rex Heuermann files for divorce

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by Anonymousreply 351July 20, 2023 10:54 AM

I’m shocked that she’s not standing by her man.

He obviously killed more than these four prostitutes. I mean, come on. He strangled them so must have received at least some injuries while doing so. She never noticed any of it?

by Anonymousreply 352July 20, 2023 11:20 AM

Ultimately it probably will be established the wife was the serial killer, and the man was just tidying up behind her.

by Anonymousreply 353July 20, 2023 11:27 AM

r349, "Hello, 15 minutes, It's me calling"

by Anonymousreply 354July 20, 2023 11:30 AM

r287, Her name was "Maria" she was another teenager, like "Katie Johsnon" raped by Epstein and Trump. Maria "disappeared" and the rapists used her to threaten Katie Kennedy and others. Keep your mouth shut or you'll end up like Maria.

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by Anonymousreply 355July 20, 2023 11:40 AM

I had a feeling from the beginning of all this that the wife was trapped there with no way to get out. This was her get Out Of Jail card. He is such an awful human being that I can't imagine how he treated her. She is from Iceland.

by Anonymousreply 356July 20, 2023 1:30 PM

Whenever I read Gilbo Beach, I think of Bilbo Baggins.

by Anonymousreply 357July 20, 2023 2:10 PM

R352 Oh good, it's time to start figuring out how the wife is culpable in her husband's crimes. Start the blaming and shaming.

As far as injuries he must have sustained while murdering these women, remember that he is about a foot and a half taller and probably 200 pounds heavier than the victims. What chance did they have to hurt him?

by Anonymousreply 358July 20, 2023 2:35 PM

^ Agree. At least a couple of the victims were under 5 feet tall. They were no match for this guy

by Anonymousreply 359July 20, 2023 2:40 PM

It’s Gilgo. Not Gilbo.

Lord, give me strength

by Anonymousreply 360July 20, 2023 2:49 PM

Oh good, websleuths fraus have entered the chat at r358 and r359.

You didn’t like the fact that I pointed out that the wife may have known and done nothing about it, but you couldn’t really argue with that point, so instead you chose to pretend that I said something else. That I was claiming she’s the real killer. That’s sad because it’s so foolish. Try harder.

If you think someone who’s only five feet tall can’t scratch of punch while the life is being strangled out of them, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn that’s a steal. I don’t care if he’s 100 feet tall. A person being murdered by strangulation struggles — HARD — as long as they’re not tied up.

Whether she was away when he committed the crimes or not, there’s no way he killed all these women by strangulation and got away bruise and cut free every single time, and as I mentioned it’s almost guaranteed he murdered more of the Gilgo Beach dead than the ones he’s being charged with.

If she knew he was hurting people while she was away and did nothing, she contributed to the deaths that followed. It’s as plain as the mooncup in front of you.

by Anonymousreply 361July 20, 2023 3:05 PM

There's no evidence that she knew, you just want to blame women.

by Anonymousreply 362July 20, 2023 3:21 PM

Thanks for showing your protectionism of women no matter what the circumstances, even if her inaction contributed to the death of multiple women, deranged lesbian at r362

by Anonymousreply 363July 20, 2023 3:50 PM

As a petite gal I’d like to think I’d least be able to gouge out a lot of flesh with my nails prior to expiring, but I don’t think we know if he drugged the victims.

We also don’t know if he and the wife shared a bedroom. If they didn’t and he generally wore long pants and sleeves she might not have seen the bruises. Or he could have explained them away based upon carpentry work injuries.

There’s just a lot we don’t know.

by Anonymousreply 364July 20, 2023 4:13 PM

R363, thanks for showing that you're a right-wing MRA incel

by Anonymousreply 365July 20, 2023 4:17 PM

ElderLez, ever the voice of reason.

by Anonymousreply 366July 20, 2023 4:42 PM

I don't think Amber was scamming him since she actually showed up to fulfill his "credit." Poor thing.

by Anonymousreply 367July 20, 2023 7:13 PM

He also had guns. Lots of guns. The victims may have never had the opportunity to fight back before he put them in restraints.

by Anonymousreply 368July 20, 2023 9:14 PM

^ correct r368. We know so much less than the little tiny pile of answers we have at this moment.

More will come out, you can bank on it. I would bet the wife doesn’t know NOT because women are incapable of participating in crime or choose to look the other way, but much more so because usually offenders who fit this profile keep it all to themselves. That’s part of their fantasy world, and they most certainly don’t want to risk the wife interfering with their fantasies. It is possible that she knew, but I would say not only unlikely, maybe even improbable, based upon all other known American serial killers married to women.

by Anonymousreply 369July 20, 2023 9:36 PM

^ Agree. Most wives don't even know their husbands are watching tons of porn or spending money on escorts in the first place, let alone murdering them.

by Anonymousreply 370July 20, 2023 10:29 PM

Sources: Rex Heuermann may have killed at least 1 victim at LI home

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by Anonymousreply 371July 20, 2023 11:35 PM


Is it possible you could put up the his police sketch in the photos he put up on Tinder. I've never seen it.

by Anonymousreply 372July 20, 2023 11:48 PM

17 victims?

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by Anonymousreply 373July 21, 2023 12:04 AM

This dude has stolen Brian Kohlberger's thunder. lmao

by Anonymousreply 374July 21, 2023 3:26 PM

Megan McCain lookalike dated him.

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by Anonymousreply 375July 21, 2023 3:39 PM

The woman at r375 is some attention seeking whore.

by Anonymousreply 376July 21, 2023 5:12 PM

She's an escort, right?

by Anonymousreply 377July 21, 2023 5:27 PM

She’s a whore, darlin

by Anonymousreply 378July 21, 2023 6:27 PM

Well the "whores" in the area would have some insight into this guy so I'm interested in what they have to say.

by Anonymousreply 379July 21, 2023 7:03 PM

You know, years ago, former teem whore/failed murderess/pumped-up-tittie-stripper Amy Fisher became an advice columnist. Usually about sex. Maybe Nikki Brass could do the same thing...

by Anonymousreply 380July 21, 2023 7:31 PM

I know this isn't the main story here but who needs 200 fucking guns? You can only shoot one at a time.

by Anonymousreply 381July 21, 2023 7:36 PM

No one, R381, but that's our sick, gun-worshiping American society.

by Anonymousreply 382July 21, 2023 7:45 PM

R379 I heard a local whore interview on TV news, not sure what channel, and she said she got an immediate sinister vibe and stayed far away from this man.

by Anonymousreply 383July 21, 2023 7:47 PM

Or she could be your editor, r380.

by Anonymousreply 384July 21, 2023 8:10 PM

[quote] who needs 200 fucking guns?

Who needs 200 Pokémon cards or 200 Picassos or 200 Lincoln Pennies

An empty space is abhorrent to the eye

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by Anonymousreply 385July 21, 2023 8:35 PM

I'm sorry. I couldn't be murdered by such an unattractive slob. I'd refuse.

Jokes aside, I know nothing of this case, but I hope justice is served.

by Anonymousreply 386July 21, 2023 8:46 PM

R363, While you might be perceptive regarding the wife's level of knowledge---which, if you care to be honest, would at most probably amount only to suspicion, because: scratches can be "explained"; the bodies weren't immediately discovered so as to be connected to his absences; most people psychologically resist such thoughts; and not even the police actively looked for his vehicle---your umbrage ought better to be directed to, you know, THE ACTUAL SUSPECT.

But you go on pretending that you're not being misogynistic about the wife and (your assumptions about) other posters.

In terms of any level of legal culpability even in the remote chance the wife knew everything---which, come on, like he told her?---there is this:

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by Anonymousreply 387July 21, 2023 8:59 PM

Or, R384, I could patiently proof what I type before hitting "Post.". A deserved mea culpa from me to you.

You know, years ago, former teen whore/failed murderess/pumped-up-tittie-stripper Amy Fisher became an advice columnist. Usually about sex. Maybe Nikki Brass could do the same thing...

by Anonymousreply 388July 21, 2023 9:53 PM

His neighbors flipped out to see the arsenal of weapons removed from the home by investigators, including a grenade!

by Anonymousreply 389July 21, 2023 10:46 PM

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by Anonymousreply 390July 22, 2023 12:07 AM

Rudy also belongs behind bars.no reason for his visit . Nassau County has a new chief of police who prioritized wrapping this investigation up whereas the last guy deliberately undermined the investigation. Nothing to do with Nosferatu.

by Anonymousreply 391July 22, 2023 12:23 AM

Unless The Ghoul knows something he’s not telling?

Maybe wanted to see what the cops had found? Or make sure they knew he was watching and to “unfind” something?

by Anonymousreply 392July 22, 2023 5:43 PM

The cops theorized he was getting ready to kill again so they had additional pressure to get this guy into custody.

His neighbors are popping up explaining what a creep this guy is who dug in his garden and burned garbage at night.

by Anonymousreply 393July 23, 2023 12:58 AM

Considering the report that Rex had once worked for Trump.....

I hear ya, r392.

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by Anonymousreply 394July 23, 2023 1:46 AM

R393, Wasn't there any neighbor with a broken leg and binoculars?

by Anonymousreply 395July 23, 2023 1:49 AM

Is this guy the Manorville butcher? "Rex Heuermann's peculiar connection to 'Manorville Butcher' and victims' scattered body parts".

"Valerie Mack's head, hands and right foot were found on Gilgo Beach in 2011, but her torso was found 11 years earlier in Manorville, New York, which is about 40 miles east of Gilgo Beach".

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by Anonymousreply 396July 23, 2023 6:23 PM

When architects go off the rails, they really go off the rails.

How about that Florida one that shot up his office?

by Anonymousreply 397July 23, 2023 6:25 PM

Leave architects aloooone

by Anonymousreply 398July 23, 2023 6:32 PM

[quote] ---your umbrage ought better to be directed to, you know, THE ACTUAL SUSPECT

Typical enraged fat dyke, logic all over the highway when a woman’s angelic, blameless innocence is ever questioned. I never said she was solely or even primarily responsible, and I’ve roundly condemned him in other posts in this thread, but don’t let that get in the way of your meltdown.

He killed up to 17 women while she was away — some or possibly all in his home — and there were never any clues? For fucks sake, maybe challenge your own partisanship just a little bit?

When she was told he was the killer and shown evidence, she said “it is what it is.”

by Anonymousreply 399July 23, 2023 6:47 PM

^ I doubt he killed 17 women but don't let the facts get in the way

by Anonymousreply 400July 23, 2023 7:42 PM

R399, Oh, you're not a misogynist, no, not at all.

Don't let the law get in YOUR way, Sonny.

And for God's sake, don't let even a single thought creep into your consciousness that this woman might have been abused and defeated both physically and emotionally, maybe even threatened. Not that "It is what it is" is ANY type of clue to her psychological state, nope.

Just like how your enraged language towards a stranger (moi) isn't ANY clue to yours.

by Anonymousreply 401July 23, 2023 11:11 PM

investigators are digging up the yard. I am curious to know if cadaver dogs are being used in the home and outdoor space.

by Anonymousreply 402July 23, 2023 11:33 PM

Guessing they must have a pretty good reason to be digging in that particular spot in his yard….I think it’s under the deck they removed earlier?

by Anonymousreply 403July 23, 2023 11:37 PM

The next door neighbor confirmed seeing that guy digging in the yard late at night

by Anonymousreply 404July 23, 2023 11:40 PM

Any bets on the total body count when all is said and done?

by Anonymousreply 405July 23, 2023 11:42 PM

I’m guessing 30, wife says 20. Dog says, “what do you think I’m a police dog? I’m a Spaniel. I get by on my looks.”

by Anonymousreply 406July 23, 2023 11:48 PM

The daily smell confirmed cadaver dogs are being used to search the home. Investigators are also looking for personal belongings of the victims. Remember, this is the suspect who stole a mobile phone of a victim to call her family.

by Anonymousreply 407July 23, 2023 11:49 PM

I’m guessing 27…..he’s been at this for a long time

by Anonymousreply 408July 24, 2023 12:03 AM

The Mail says they have discovered a soundproof room off the basement.

by Anonymousreply 409July 24, 2023 12:04 AM

Has Mrs. Kravitz commented?

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by Anonymousreply 410July 24, 2023 12:21 AM

[QUOTE]The Mail says they have discovered a soundproof room off the basement.

Ugh. The guy wasn't a stickler for cleanliness. I'm guessing they're going to find many DNA samples.

by Anonymousreply 411July 24, 2023 12:32 AM

These cops are looking for anything that connects the suspect to victims including DNA,body parts and personal belongings.

He is being charged with four murders but dozens of bodies were found out there on that beach. This is truly disturbing.

by Anonymousreply 412July 24, 2023 1:04 AM

Oh good god. They've found a soundproof room in his basement.

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by Anonymousreply 413July 24, 2023 1:21 AM

R413, Jesus Christ. That is horrific

by Anonymousreply 414July 24, 2023 1:25 AM

Only good reason for soundproofing is that he intended to bring at least one back to his home. He may have kept them alive for a while.

Or, he didn't want to disturb the neighbors while practicing to be a concert pianist.

by Anonymousreply 415July 24, 2023 1:41 AM

My old house had a room like that, it was a bomb shelter. We used it for storage. I wonder if his was also original to the house.

by Anonymousreply 416July 24, 2023 1:44 AM

r416 could be as that house looks like it was built in the 50's when shelters were popular.

by Anonymousreply 417July 24, 2023 1:46 AM

The remains of his victims were chopped up. I am concluding a soundproof bunker was used to chop up bodies.

by Anonymousreply 418July 24, 2023 1:50 AM

Isn’t it possible that it was “all of the above”? A former bomb shelter (though with him being in the construction/renovation industry, he likely has oodles of contractors in his network who could have done the framing/drywall/electrical for him, then he would do the soundproofing himself (and/or had them install that specialized sound reduction drywall too).

He used the space both for sex play/torture, AND as a butchery. Horrific for sure.

Part of me wants to believe he couldn’t come close to Gacy in numbers because of modern surveillance, but the flip side is that he is clearly extremely intelligent (I would say smarter than Gacy actually), combined with his age, location, MO, cunning, and audacity (calling the sister on a victim’s phone more than once) and it sounds like at a minimum we have another Israel Keyes. I will not be shocked if his numbers go into the 20’s, though it’s still ridiculous speculation and way too early to say. I would imagine the cops might have more evidence that’s giving them a better sense of total victims, though who can say how much material they are processing?

It’s all conjecture right now.

by Anonymousreply 419July 24, 2023 2:15 AM

R412 He is ghastly murderer. Therefore, there is no need for LYING HYPERBOLE!! Eleven bodies were found on Gildo Beach. Which is not even ONE dozen.

by Anonymousreply 420July 24, 2023 2:35 AM

Sound proof room didn't come with the house..."A former coworker told The Post that suspected serial murderer Rex Heuermann, 59, once took time off from his job as a Manhattan architect to install a concrete-lined vault at his family’s Long Island house".

They say the walls are 2 to 3 feet thick. IMHO I can't imagine he went out of his way to build this for just guns or that he only killed 3 girls and I can't see he stopped killing in 2010 when they found them on Gilgo.

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by Anonymousreply 421July 24, 2023 3:25 AM

why would a bomb shelter need to be soundproof?

by Anonymousreply 422July 24, 2023 12:32 PM

So you don't hear the bomb.

by Anonymousreply 423July 24, 2023 12:35 PM

and not be aware of what's going on around you! and what sound proofing would block the noise of a bomb?

by Anonymousreply 424July 24, 2023 1:44 PM

R422 Because it's not a bomb shelter. A bomb shelter has air, food and water in it. This is more of a vault.

by Anonymousreply 425July 24, 2023 1:53 PM

you were there R425?

by Anonymousreply 426July 24, 2023 1:56 PM

Anderson covered t his in a special he did Sunday night. I guess they have him doing True Crime docs now. Next week he's going to do...Trump. My, my.

by Anonymousreply 427July 24, 2023 2:21 PM

Not guilty until proven innocent!

by Anonymousreply 428July 24, 2023 2:27 PM

Heterosexual men hate women.

by Anonymousreply 429July 24, 2023 2:32 PM

R426 Says it right in the article but I guess you didn't bother to read it.

by Anonymousreply 430July 24, 2023 3:38 PM

The wife might have known or been suspicious, since he took time off work to build a fortified cement vault extension in the basement. He seems like a sloppy guy who would not allow her in that room so what was his excuse? It's a photo lab and I'm developing passport photos? You just know that room was off limits, she had to be suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 431July 24, 2023 3:38 PM

I'm sure he used his guns as an excuse for the room so that no one would be able to get a hold of them.

by Anonymousreply 432July 24, 2023 4:06 PM

The special needs son still lives at home, right?

by Anonymousreply 433July 24, 2023 4:18 PM


by Anonymousreply 434July 24, 2023 4:19 PM

Well, then the son is definitely guilty and dad was covering for him!

by Anonymousreply 435July 24, 2023 4:23 PM

[quote]I am the person who volunteers in a jail. I work with violent offenders weekly. But the funny thing is, none of them in five years have ever felt evil at all!!!

This seems terribly naive. These people seem like normal people and in almost all cases nobody would have thought it of them. You just don't know them in their other context.

by Anonymousreply 436July 24, 2023 4:27 PM

Rex Heuermann "I'm innocent".

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by Anonymousreply 437July 24, 2023 6:42 PM

I think the Perp is "special needs." He's smart and cunning, but he seems "off" in that interview. There's also a hint of grandiosity in his presentation.

by Anonymousreply 438July 24, 2023 6:45 PM

No soundproof room. It's a vault.

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by Anonymousreply 439July 24, 2023 7:47 PM

The case was closed until the new commissioner took the job. And the lead that helped nab him wasn't followed up for 12 years? Jesus, how could this be?

[QUOTE]The commissioner reopened the case last year, creating the joint Gilgo Beach Task Force, which he said he planned to keep in service and continue the investigation into all of the bodies found along the South Shore.

[QUOTE]Harrison formed the unit after taking office, with the squad identifying Heuermann as a suspect by March 2022 — in part by following up on a 2010 tip from a witness whose dormant lead eventually helped put Heuermann in handcuffs.

by Anonymousreply 440July 24, 2023 8:21 PM

Well, I guess we know how he spent his money. 300 guns plus all the licenses, a vault, the SC property, and a Vegas timeshare. Authorities in Vegas are looking into missing persons cases.

What compelled him to own an arsenal? And it's not a mini arsenal. Are he and his brother some kind of nutters waiting for the apocalypse or a race war?

by Anonymousreply 441July 24, 2023 8:31 PM

In case a S.W.A.T. surrounded his house?

by Anonymousreply 442July 24, 2023 8:49 PM

[quote] Any bets on the total body count when all is said and done?

Guess high. They'll load every unsolved case on him they can.

by Anonymousreply 443July 24, 2023 9:13 PM

Can you imagine living near this bs? Cops removing hundreds of weapons, not dozens, hundreds of guns and a grenade from the house. Now cops are using cadaver dogs to look for the remains of victims, a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 444July 24, 2023 11:19 PM

Gilgo Four Victim's Timeline vs. Rex Heuermann's Timeline.

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by Anonymousreply 445July 26, 2023 6:16 AM

Only John Carroll Lynch can play him in the biopic.

Fun fact; in the 90s, I would routinely run into John Carroll Lynch and Cuba Gooding Jr at my local Blockbuster in Studio City.

I miss the 90s.

by Anonymousreply 446July 26, 2023 9:27 AM

John Carroll Lynch would be brilliant and was robbed of an Emmy for his role of Twisty The Clown in "American Horror Story: Freakshow".

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by Anonymousreply 447July 26, 2023 10:04 AM

The clown story on that AHS season could have been way more creatively done. As I recall he ended up just being retarded or something and not a maniacal killer at all. Some other parts of the season were brilliant. Lobster boy and Lange as the Marlene Dietrich ringleader, for instance. Oh, and the tiny woman who ended up on formaldehyde.

by Anonymousreply 448July 26, 2023 4:31 PM

Well, JCL has already played Zodiac so this is working out very well for him.

by Anonymousreply 449July 26, 2023 4:44 PM

I'm surprised he's so fat. Rich, well-educated people from NY don't tend to be fat.

by Anonymousreply 450July 26, 2023 4:58 PM

Is he really well-educated? His architectural expertise seems to be dealing with zoning issues. Would this require much more beyond cronyism and knowing the ropes well before any college-trained architect spent much time at a new firm.

by Anonymousreply 451July 26, 2023 6:17 PM

He is neither rich nor well educated. Does he even have a degree?

by Anonymousreply 452July 26, 2023 7:13 PM

Did anyone look up if he is a registered architect? He seems like he did advice and occasional haranguing

by Anonymousreply 453July 26, 2023 9:06 PM

I found this interview interesting.

Former escort Nikkie Brass said Heuermann talked about the Gilgo killings during their meeting at a Port Jefferson restaurant in 2015. "It didn't seem like a true crime fan who just knows information they've seen on TV and read it – seemed like somebody who was reliving it," says Brass.

Brass went on to say that Heuerman then talked about how a killer could potentially get rid of the bodies by carrying burlap sacks through the marsh.

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by Anonymousreply 454July 26, 2023 9:23 PM

[quote] I doubt he killed 17 women but don't let the facts get in the way

Yes, lots more bodies have been found where the LISK dumped victims. or are otherwise associated with the LISK victims, but let’s cut him some slack — at least, if cutting him some slack means you get another opportunity to disagree with someone who suggests his wife may have known what he was doing.

by Anonymousreply 455July 26, 2023 9:31 PM

R454 I haven't made up my mind how much of that colorful woman's story is true or fabulist. It's plausible she had a "date" but the rest seems sketchy. Still, I enjoyed her. Also, It's kind pulpy and Anderson really is sinking low.

by Anonymousreply 456July 26, 2023 9:39 PM

The BTK's daughter started a group to help people like this family. She said that the killers like to keep everything to themselves to savor it and she said the daughter and wife most likely had no idea any of this had happened. People think there is no way they could have known but she said the killers can be extremely secretive.

by Anonymousreply 457July 26, 2023 9:45 PM

That’s probably part of the “thrill” as well, r457.

by Anonymousreply 458July 26, 2023 9:50 PM

In my opinion, Nikki Brasse is a lying attention seeker who deserves to be ignored. How on earth does she remember details from a date from 8 years ago. She is lying.

by Anonymousreply 459July 26, 2023 10:31 PM

She seems like an Erika Jayne flooze out for attention and a quick buck.

by Anonymousreply 460July 26, 2023 10:56 PM

The neighbors are coming right out to say dude is a weirdo and creep who didn't speak to others, burned trash and dug around in his backyard at very odd hours of the night.

Their stories are worth hearing.

This guy used burner phones to contact his victims, this is how he was identified as a suspect.

Can Nikki Brassy Colored Hair prove she went on a date with the guy. Emails? Screenshots? Dms? Texts? If not, shaddap ya hoar.

by Anonymousreply 461July 26, 2023 11:30 PM

R461 In actuality you have no way of knowing if she did or did not experience this. Why sound like you do? You don't and you spelled whore wrong just to show how smart you are I guess.

by Anonymousreply 462July 27, 2023 12:43 AM

And you don't know either ya freakin hoar.

by Anonymousreply 463July 27, 2023 1:00 AM

Wow really r461? Have any other breaking news for us? How did you ever get that scoop that he used burner phones? Do you know someone in law enforcement?

by Anonymousreply 464July 27, 2023 2:31 AM

[quote]The neighbors are coming right out to say dude is a weirdo and creep who didn't speak to others, burned trash and dug around in his backyard at very odd hours of the night. Their stories are worth hearing.

And yet nobody mentioned his name before cops followed the evidence.

by Anonymousreply 465July 27, 2023 3:12 AM

R455, I don't know whom you are quoting, there being no "r#," but that poster is not I, the one who argued about the wife.

Indeed, far from cutting old Rex any slack, I'm on the side of those who believe he has slain many more than have been discovered.

So as far as YOUR playing detective here in trying to "identify" posters---stop.

by Anonymousreply 466July 27, 2023 10:57 AM

[quote]Only good reason for soundproofing is that he intended to bring at least one back to his home.

People DIY soundproof their basements for all kinds of reasons (band rehearsals, podcast recording, home theaters, using the space as a rental unit while occupying the upstairs), but it's highly doubtful that any of those applied here.

by Anonymousreply 467July 27, 2023 12:04 PM

Overall, I’m getting a vibe of schlubby loser who killed women to feel important / powerful.

It takes some doing to be born into that environment (easy access to one of the world’s great cities) and still end up an uneducated loser.

Sure, he “had an office in the city,” but he seems to have been an expediter or “building engineer” (read: maintenance guy) with delusions of grandeur.

by Anonymousreply 468July 27, 2023 12:32 PM

Anyone who has ever been blindsided by their partner's affair knows how easy it is for people to keep secrets.

Lay off the wife. She may have suspected ... something, but I doubt she thought he was a depraved psychopath.

Who knows what went on in their household? How well do we really know the people around us?

by Anonymousreply 469July 27, 2023 12:43 PM

[quote]that poster is not I

Oh, dear. It's 'me', not 'I'.

by Anonymousreply 470July 27, 2023 2:09 PM

[quote]How well do we really know the people around us?

Absolutely. I fully believe that she had no clue. It sounds as if he mostly did it when she was away from him. Serial killers are very good at keeping that part separate from their family, friends and colleagues.

by Anonymousreply 471July 27, 2023 2:11 PM

R470, Back atcha, DEAR.

"IS" is a verb of BEING, not ACTION. In mathematical terms, A = B, so the pronoun after the verb is in the same form as preceding, aka the Nominative, not the Subjective.

Now it might not SOUND right to the ear, but r466 (DO TRY to use referral numbers, DEAR) is grammatically correct.

P.S. When first quoting in English, use the double form of ".....". A quote within that would then use the '...' notation.

by Anonymousreply 472July 27, 2023 5:23 PM

Correction to r472: "Objective" should replace "Subjective."

Not a self-Oh, Dear, but the inability to edit.

by Anonymousreply 473July 27, 2023 5:26 PM

R468 Boy, did you zone in.

by Anonymousreply 474July 28, 2023 12:28 AM

Neighbors identified him as weird, not as a serial murderer. Even cops had to wait years before an arrest was made until the evidence was available to charge him.

by Anonymousreply 475July 28, 2023 12:41 AM

Is the Long Island Serial Killer Suspect Also the Manorville Butcher?

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by Anonymousreply 476July 28, 2023 2:20 AM

Oh, Nacy is salivating!

by Anonymousreply 477July 28, 2023 10:41 AM

[quote]In my opinion, Nikki Brasse is a lying attention seeker who deserves to be ignored. How on earth does she remember details from a date from 8 years ago. She is lying.

Did she run to the police? They wouldn't care what her profession is.so there is no excuse.

by Anonymousreply 478July 28, 2023 12:50 PM

The New York Times reports that Heuermann was not popular in high school. Shocking, I know.

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by Anonymousreply 479July 28, 2023 1:01 PM

Oh, the 'loner' trope again.

by Anonymousreply 480July 28, 2023 2:09 PM

It's surprising he was married *twice* given his social awkwardness.

by Anonymousreply 481July 28, 2023 2:40 PM

Some women will marry ANYONE just to be married, r481.

by Anonymousreply 482July 28, 2023 5:45 PM

R477 She looks a proper nut in that photo. Lol!

by Anonymousreply 483July 28, 2023 6:52 PM

Did anyone read the People Magazine cover story?

by Anonymousreply 484July 28, 2023 7:36 PM

R477 Nancy looks crazy in that pic. She loves this stuff.

by Anonymousreply 485July 28, 2023 7:41 PM

You just know that Timothée Chalamet will play him.

That's the world we're living in.

by Anonymousreply 486July 28, 2023 7:43 PM

^ Nah, it will be Tom Cruise in a fat suit, gunning for an Oscar

by Anonymousreply 487July 28, 2023 7:45 PM

I don't need a fat suit. Just saying.

by Anonymousreply 488July 28, 2023 7:51 PM

R480, Isn't it generally true of serial killers, with only some exceptions?

Ann Rule, true-murder chronicler sans pareil, worked and was friendly with, rode in his VW with, and believed in the innocence of Ted Bundy until the bitter end, notwithstanding her (alleged, with only her word for it) reporting the car to police.

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by Anonymousreply 489July 28, 2023 8:23 PM

[quote]Some women will marry ANYONE just to be married, R481.

True. That's the only reason I married the incredibly annoying Marty Ingels.

by Anonymousreply 490July 28, 2023 8:27 PM

R486, Nope!

Laverne Cox!

by Anonymousreply 491July 28, 2023 8:27 PM

If anyone except another serial killer plays Rex Heurmann, it will be a travesty!

by Anonymousreply 492July 28, 2023 8:30 PM

Classmate Billy Baldwin could play the role of Rex.

by Anonymousreply 493July 28, 2023 11:07 PM

[quote]Isn't it generally true of serial killers, with only some exceptions?

It isn't. At least provide an actual study to back that up with. It's a stereotype that the media propagates.

by Anonymousreply 494July 28, 2023 11:20 PM

the daughter is wearing a bulky sweater in this heatwave

by Anonymousreply 495July 28, 2023 11:31 PM

R494 cannot distinguish between a question and an assertion. Que lastima.

And meanwhile, do try to learn the DL format of reference, you know, to be both correct and helpful.

by Anonymousreply 496July 29, 2023 1:17 AM

Oh, and r494? Where's YOUR study? Moron.

Study THIS.

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by Anonymousreply 497July 29, 2023 1:22 AM

But perhaps you and I are using the word "loner" in different definitions. Mine is "lone killer," not "misfit without acquaintances."

by Anonymousreply 498July 29, 2023 1:27 AM

[quote]But perhaps you and I are using the word "loner" in different definitions. Mine is "lone killer," not "misfit without acquaintances."

Bullshit. You're grabbing at straws trying to save face. But you're wrong then too. That would be a lone killer.

Do you not know the difference between the words loner and lone?

by Anonymousreply 499July 29, 2023 1:32 AM

R489 Ann Rule was great. I honestly felt sorry for her, believing so strongly in Bundy and finding out at last how wrong she was. He got to her with his charms. Some say she was in love with him. He must've also liked her promising her (strangely enough) no harm would ever come to her young daughter and it never did.

I haven't been able to find it again but long ago I read during his trial in Florida at which she was present sure of his innocence, he as his own lawyer put up that huge photo of his teeth to prove it and she finally saw through him. She got up and ran down the hall to the bathroom and threw up.

by Anonymousreply 500July 29, 2023 2:27 AM

[QUOTE]He must've also liked her promising her (strangely enough) no harm would ever come to her young daughter

I have no idea what this means.

by Anonymousreply 501July 29, 2023 2:46 AM

“I had long since managed a degree of detachment when dealing with photographs from homicide cases. They no longer upset me as they once did, although I make it a point not to dwell on them. By the time I stood in Shirley Lewis’s office, I had seen thousands of body pictures. I had seen pictures of Kathy Devine and Brenda Baker in Thurston County, but that was months before it was known there was a “Ted.” Of course, there were no bodies to photograph in the other Washington cases, and I had had no access to Colorado or Utah pictures. Now, I was staring down at huge color photographs of the damage done to girls young enough to be my daughters—at pictures of damage alleged to be the handiwork of a man I thought I knew. That man who only minutes before had smiled the same old grin at me, and shrugged as if to say, “I have no part of this.” It hit me with a terrible sickening wave. I ran to the ladies’ room and threw up.” ― Ann Rule, The Stranger Beside Me: Ted Bundy: The Shocking Inside Story

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by Anonymousreply 502July 29, 2023 3:43 AM

[Quote] Who knows what went on in their household? How well do we really know the people around us?

If neighbors claim to have been aware of his digging in his backyard late at night did no one in his family observe this? What did they think he was doing? and where was Mrs. Kravitz?

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by Anonymousreply 503July 29, 2023 4:10 AM

Yeah, Ann Rule must have been in love with Ted Bundy. It's her job to research and write about crime, yet she couldn't believe the mountain of evidence about Bundy?

No, I don't think he was hot. He looked like a slimeball.

by Anonymousreply 504July 29, 2023 4:32 AM

R503 It seems that he did most of that stuff when his wife was away. I'd guess the same for the digging. But have they even found anything in his backyard? It sounds like it could be a red herring.

by Anonymousreply 505July 29, 2023 11:46 AM

[quote]Yeah, Ann Rule must have been in love with Ted Bundy. It's her job to research and write about crime, yet she couldn't believe the mountain of evidence about Bundy? No, I don't think he was hot. He looked like a slimeball.

I read her book about him and she would send him money and visit him in jail but acknowledged that he could be manipulative that way, asking for things. I could never work out whether she was doing it just to get access for her book or if she was genuinely enamored. Maybe it was a bit of both.

by Anonymousreply 506July 29, 2023 11:49 AM

Another fascinating thing about Ann Rule is that apparently she gave some talks about the Green River Killer and Gary Ridgway (the killer) actually attended at least one of them.

by Anonymousreply 507July 29, 2023 12:00 PM

I just saw this one. It sounds like a female was somehow involved. His wife?

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by Anonymousreply 508July 29, 2023 6:23 PM

the victims were murdered when his wife was traveling out of state or overseas, investigators know this from reviewing phone records

by Anonymousreply 509July 29, 2023 7:06 PM

He stole my thunder.

by Anonymousreply 510July 29, 2023 7:54 PM

R510 Ours, too.

by Anonymousreply 511July 29, 2023 7:57 PM

The Murdaugh book is coming out next week! I'm already salivating!

by Anonymousreply 512July 29, 2023 7:59 PM

More Murdaugh! More pasty titty pics taken from prison!!! Pics of Buster's pasty titties taken from Hilton Head!!! Murdaugh, Murdaugh, Murdaugh...

by Anonymousreply 513July 29, 2023 9:41 PM

Ted Bundy apparently emitted a foul odor and his face became demonic when he switched from his Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde. This has been reported of other serial killers too.

by Anonymousreply 514July 29, 2023 9:51 PM

I've heard that the eyes of killers totally change when they latch onto a victim- become cold and scary- but I've never heard the foul odor thing before.

by Anonymousreply 515July 29, 2023 9:58 PM

They did say that several places about the odor. Here is an article that had some interesting thoughts on that.

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by Anonymousreply 516July 29, 2023 10:44 PM

Dead people smell so bad. Shame on them!

by Anonymousreply 517July 29, 2023 11:05 PM

R516 That's a terrible article. Do you have any other examples of killers who emit an odor?

by Anonymousreply 518July 30, 2023 12:30 AM

R439 it was both, yes?

by Anonymousreply 519July 30, 2023 2:29 AM

R519 I didn’t write the post about other serial killer having an odor, I have read before about Bundy’s demeanor and eyes changing to dark, I did read someone say he emitted an odor when he became the darker persona (I believe that was while he was doing some interview in prison, not sure). That is why I put up the article. I thought it gave some reasonable explanations for this and I thought it a well thought out article.I don’t have a clue about anyone else having this phenomenon. No time to search. Maybe you could.

by Anonymousreply 520July 30, 2023 4:55 AM

R508, here. What I meant about the wife or another woman being involved was that in the video the lawyer said he received calls from a man with a woman speaking in the background, possibly participating in the calls. The video was about the weird, harassing phonecalls he received, not about the acual murders.

by Anonymousreply 521July 30, 2023 6:32 AM

Defense investigator Joe Aloi seemed to have gotten a clear view. While they were talking, he suddenly noticed an odor emanating from Bundy as his face and body contorted. “I felt that negative electricity,” Aloi said, “and along with that came that smell.” Aloi was suddenly terrified that Bundy would kill him.

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by Anonymousreply 522July 30, 2023 7:08 AM

It's said that everyone has their own personal odor that emits when sexually aroused.

by Anonymousreply 523July 30, 2023 7:12 AM

R516 that article was very informative. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 524July 30, 2023 7:15 AM

It could be smell related to adrenaline and sweat when they are talking about their killings amd reliving them.

by Anonymousreply 525July 30, 2023 7:49 AM


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by Anonymousreply 526July 31, 2023 12:58 AM

I wish they knew what happened to Shannon Gilbert. I get they don't think that she's related to this guy. I wonder if they are checking just the same but what I read was Gilbert was not found in burlap, was on a different side of the road then the Gilgo 4 but gee a killer can change sides of the road can't he? However, I understand, yes, they probably have information I don't. But Gilbert's last phone call is so poignant. I think of her voice on that call from time to time feel so bad for her and wonder what did happen there. The second autopsy paid by the mother and done by a private investigator said her hyoid bone was broken and that indicates strangulation. Originally they said she ran out into the weeds and died of exposure, then I read the weeds are like 12 foot tall, full of stickers and at that time of the year there is 2 to 3 foot of water out there and that she had no shoes and no pants on. Those were found quite a ways from her on the other side of the weeds. With weeds that high I can't see them floating through. She screams on her 911 phone call after saying they're after me, they're going to kill me. They believed she was on drugs and she ended up dead on that lonely stretch of highway in a line a few miles apart or so of other bodies. What the heck, can there really be several killers out there picking this one spot to dump bodies and they are all unconnected?

by Anonymousreply 527July 31, 2023 1:20 AM

Gilbert is believed to have died from exposure or the elements, or possibly an overdose. She was out of her mind on something the night she died.

by Anonymousreply 528July 31, 2023 1:21 AM

"But Gilbert's last phone call is so poignant. But Gilbert's last phone call is so poignant. "

It was haunting. It has stayed with me all of these years.

by Anonymousreply 529July 31, 2023 1:23 AM

Sunday, August 6---8:00 p.m.

Lifetime Channel: "The Gilgo Beach Killer." No other information.

by Anonymousreply 530July 31, 2023 1:24 PM

R504, Yeah, I don't understand all the "handsome" accolades for Bundy. He was creepy!

Her book, "The Stranger Beside Me," was Ann Rule's first and best (I've read most of hers).

by Anonymousreply 531July 31, 2023 1:39 PM

The book that Bundy's girlfriend at the time wrote is very good as well. Bundy comes across as emotional and not as smart as people make him out to be. They seemed to have a co-dependent relationship.

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by Anonymousreply 532July 31, 2023 3:25 PM

Rex goes in for his court hearing tomorrow (Tuesday July 31).

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by Anonymousreply 533July 31, 2023 11:54 PM

"Shannan Gilbert family lawyer John Ray joins 'Fox & Friends First' to break down the alleged police missteps in the Gilgo Beach murders case".

Thank you, Mr. Ray and go Ray, go!

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by Anonymousreply 534August 1, 2023 12:28 AM

Bundy's ex-girlfriend comes off as dumb. Netflix had a documentary about Bundy featuring her. She actually did call the police (forgot which department, he was a multi-state killer). So many things went wrong with that case: like him escaping from custody (courthouse, actually) and then moving cross-country to kill some more women.

by Anonymousreply 535August 1, 2023 12:31 AM

Tuesday is August 1st.

by Anonymousreply 536August 1, 2023 12:37 AM

Yike, yes 8/1 at 8am btw, I don't know how the hell I made THAT mistake.

by Anonymousreply 537August 1, 2023 3:48 AM

Wife complained investigators left her home a mess. Her husband is accused of murders and hundreds of guns along with a grenade was removed from the home.

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by Anonymousreply 538August 1, 2023 6:15 AM

He is frightening. Can you imagine seeing that face as the last thing you see on earth?

by Anonymousreply 539August 1, 2023 6:53 AM

R535 Agree that Bundy's ex-girlfriend Liz appeared to be dense. I watched a documentary on Amazon and Liz's daughter Molly had more of a grasp on the Bundy situation than Liz did.

If someone pushed me off of a raft into a river, I would cut that person out of my life.


by Anonymousreply 540August 1, 2023 2:28 PM

R540, yeah, she was so dense. The daughter did seem a lot more with-it than the mom.

by Anonymousreply 541August 1, 2023 5:24 PM

I wonder what happened to his bio daughter, the one he fathered while in prison.

by Anonymousreply 542August 1, 2023 5:25 PM

Well it’s just a fantasy but I wish when those investigators hunted around in Rex’ house they found a roll of camouflage burlap in one of the closets to really nail him with.

by Anonymousreply 543August 2, 2023 5:57 AM

We don't know they haven't, r543. That information wouldn't become available until entered into court evidence.

by Anonymousreply 544August 2, 2023 9:43 PM

R506 She mistook his fake charm and shallow interest in her life as a 'special' friendship. She was a tool he used time and time again. As a former cop, her naivety is kind of shocking. But never underestimate what a woman will do for any man she thinks is interested in her sexually or otherwise. (I know it was a platonic r/ship.)

I think she definitely had her book in mind, but her willingness to drop everything at a moments notice to fly out and help this poor, psychopathic sexual sadist sitting alone in his cell struck me as pious and deluded.

by Anonymousreply 545August 3, 2023 11:23 AM

[quote] Ted Bundy apparently emitted a foul odor and his face became demonic when he switched from his Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde.

No dear, that’s because Taco Bell did the food service at the prison.

by Anonymousreply 546August 3, 2023 1:15 PM

It’s Culver’s that makes him reek.

by Anonymousreply 547August 3, 2023 1:28 PM

Wonder what this is about?

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by Anonymousreply 549August 4, 2023 7:36 PM

How do we know Karen Vergata was killed by LISK?

by Anonymousreply 550August 4, 2023 10:11 PM

Another Jane Doe has been identified

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by Anonymousreply 551August 4, 2023 10:18 PM

Funny. "In 2022, the Suffolk County Police Department in collaboration with the FBI teamed with Othram to determine if advanced DNA testing could help to identify Fire Island Jane Doe. Forensic evidence was sent to Othram’s laboratory in The Woodlands, Texas. Othram scientists developed a suitable DNA extract from the forensic evidence and then used Forensic-Grade Genome Sequencing® to build a comprehensive genealogical profile. After successfully completing the process, the DNA profile was delivered to the FBI's forensic genetic genealogy team and the FBI team performed the necessary work to generate investigative leads".

And yesterday they wanted a DNA swab from Rex Heuermann.

"In April 1996, the legs of an unidentified woman were recovered inside of a black garbage bag at Blue Point Beach in Suffolk County, New York. Later, in April 2011, the woman’s skull was recovered near Ocean Parkway west of Tobay Beach in Nassau County, New York".

Tobay Beach is just down the line moving in a sw direction from Gilgo Beach. Blue Point Beach is actually ON Long Island, on the Great South Shore Bay side, across from Fire Island and about 27 miles up the road from Massapequa Park. Rex Heuermann lived there all his life and so I'm guessing he was there then, he would've been about 32 years old.

I wonder, like everyone else does at this point if

by Anonymousreply 552August 4, 2023 10:27 PM

This is so disgusting

by Anonymousreply 553August 4, 2023 10:34 PM

Why does r549 image look like a photoshop of a man’s face onto a girl?

by Anonymousreply 554August 4, 2023 10:34 PM

[quote] On April 20, 1996, Vergata’s legs and feet were found on the bay side of Fire Island

I’m interested!

by Anonymousreply 555August 4, 2023 10:37 PM

Here's Ann Rule at her typewriter.

Frankly, I would have loved to have had her career. Researching and writing about true crime.

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by Anonymousreply 556August 4, 2023 11:12 PM

Would it be mean to say "No wonder Bundy spared her?"

by Anonymousreply 557August 5, 2023 12:33 AM

Too soon, r557!

by Anonymousreply 558August 5, 2023 12:34 AM

No. I think that was exactly it. She was like a mom if anything and he had it in for girls with long hair parted in the middle.

by Anonymousreply 559August 5, 2023 12:42 AM

The only way to get to Davis Park on Fire Island is by boat.

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by Anonymousreply 560August 5, 2023 1:07 AM

Sorry, not trying to derail the thread but since Bundy's been mentioned...

The account of the Chi Omega sorority house murders in Ann Rule's book reminded me of what we know of the U. of Idaho killings - probable stalking, frenzied attacks, occupant/s sensing "unreasoning terror" and locking themselves in their room. Maybe Kohberger's a Bundy fan?

by Anonymousreply 561August 5, 2023 4:18 PM

The remains may have washed onto the shore from somewhere else. Still if RH had a boat there he could have dumped his victims into the great south bay or left the corpses on the little marsh islands that dot Jones Inlet and Reynolds Channel.

by Anonymousreply 562August 5, 2023 8:57 PM

Lifetime has on the gilgo beach killer right now. It’s 8pm here

by Anonymousreply 563August 7, 2023 3:04 AM

Jeez, that was Kim Delaney in the Lifetime movie... time is not kind, drinking is not kind and using plastic surgery or Botox to correct other ravages, does not help.

by Anonymousreply 564August 7, 2023 10:13 AM

Maybe so, r561, though Bundy's M.O. was to bludgeon.

by Anonymousreply 565August 7, 2023 1:41 PM

This might be of interest to some of you. I watched it everyday in real time. Those poor girls were torn to pieces.

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by Anonymousreply 566August 8, 2023 7:31 AM

Disgraced former Suffolk County police chief James Burke was arrested again Tuesday morning after allegedly soliciting sex and exposing himself at a public park.

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by Anonymousreply 567August 23, 2023 12:43 AM

Burke is a pig

by Anonymousreply 568August 23, 2023 1:01 AM

Disgraced ex-Suffolk County police chief who botched Gilgo Beach case and beat up porn thief accused of soliciting sex — at 10 a.m. Disgraced ex-Suffolk County police chief who botched Gilgo Beach case and beat up porn thief accused of soliciting sex — at 10 a.m.

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by Anonymousreply 569August 23, 2023 1:54 AM

Wow. "Former state Sen. Phil Boyle has long been critical of Burke’s handling of the Gilgo Beach killings — even going so far as to ask the state to look into the former top cop’s actions.

On Tuesday, Boyle reiterated that he believes Burke hampered efforts to solve the case for years".

Wonder what's up with that.

by Anonymousreply 570August 23, 2023 4:02 AM

Again, today! Didn't he get any help while incarcerated? He wants to be caught.

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by Anonymousreply 571August 23, 2023 5:03 AM

[quote] On Tuesday, Boyle reiterated that he believes Burke hampered efforts to solve the case for years".

Police chief who bungled ( or hampered ) case is gay.

A disgraced former top cop on Long Island was arrested in a prostitution sting after allegedly exposing himself and trying to solicit a sex worker at a park, officials announced.

Former Suffolk Police Chief James Burke was arrested around 10:15 a.m. Tuesday at Suffolk County Vietnam Veterans Memorial Park in Selden, the county executive's office said. A law enforcement source told NBC New York that the county park rangers set up a sting operation at the spot in the middle of County Road 83.

Burke, 58, was accused of soliciting a male prostitute and exposing himself. He was charged with public lewdness, indecent exposure, criminal solicitation and offering a sex act, according to the county executive's office.

An attorney for Burke could not be reached. The Suffolk County District Attorney did not respond to a request for comment.

Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison said county park rangers made the arrest at the start of an undercover operation, responding to complaints about sexual solicitation at the park. The rangers apparently had not realized, at first, they had arrested the disgraced former chief of the department.

At the time of his arrest, the commissioner said Burke tried to use his name to avoid arrest.

"He was expressing to us how this would be a public humiliation for him," Sgt. Brian Quattrini, with the park rangers, said.

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by Anonymousreply 572August 23, 2023 7:56 AM

"According to court documents, Burke beat up Loeb in 2012 after Loeb stole a bag full of sex toys and a porn DVD showing women being tortured from Burke's patrol car".

Can't help but wonder if he stopped investigation into Shannan Gilbert's case for reason of culpability.

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by Anonymousreply 573August 23, 2023 4:29 PM

I wonder what was in the bag full o' sex toys. Dildos?

by Anonymousreply 574August 23, 2023 4:34 PM

"🥒 Park", 😂

by Anonymousreply 575August 27, 2023 2:45 AM

48 hours tonight is Heuremann and I think after his segment is Kohberger.

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by Anonymousreply 576September 17, 2023 1:12 AM

Charged with killing another woman

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by Anonymousreply 577January 16, 2024 2:21 PM

Guy was suck as fuck.

Somebody I used to work with lives on the same street.

by Anonymousreply 578January 16, 2024 2:39 PM

"suck as fuck"? Was that Heurmann's sex game of choice or did you leave a typo R578?

by Anonymousreply 579January 16, 2024 8:06 PM

R573, yes, he impeded the investigation. Endangered the community and delayed justice for the victims.

Some strange story too with his hiring and promotion. Was mentored and groomed for the role after he came into contact with law enforcement as a teen involved in the murder of another teen.

by Anonymousreply 580January 16, 2024 8:43 PM

It will always be the dildo beach murders to me.

by Anonymousreply 581January 16, 2024 8:54 PM

Dildo Beach murders only happen out at Fire Island!

by Anonymousreply 582January 16, 2024 9:37 PM

Don't forget, the former District Attorney is in jail. For being involved in the Burke drama.

I'm not defending any murderers, but my boss was murdered in that county and they (the police & D.A) did a LOT of fucked up things to the people related to and friends with the person/people they thought commited the murder. It was my boss's wife that murdered him. I'm pretty sure her boyfriend helped, maybe not the murder but at least with the clean up. They wanted to arrest him, but they didn't have any evidence, so the D.A (tommy spota) had the police pickup 4 of the boyfriend's friends and family members as they were driving to work and brought each of them to different police stations all around Suffolk County. Nobody knew where they were and the police wouldn't release them , wouldn't let them call anyone and were questioning them, even though they all asked for attorneys. And they threatened them with all kinds of things they could arrest them for (which was all bullshit) and that they would take their kids away and put them in foster care. They even hit them. They hit the wife in the head. They eventually released them, and the people sued the county and it was eventually settled out of court many years later. But they picked up the guy's wife (who he was getting a divorce from because he was cheating with my boss's wife). She didn't know anything. She was being cheated on. She was a social worker and they scared her so much about taking her kids away she peed her pants and had a nervous breakdown and had to go to a mental hospital to recuperate. And has PTSD from that experience. That's the kind of shit this county pulled on people when Spota and Burke were in charge. They basically kidnapped people and threatened them. That's standard operating procedure in Suffolk County, NY. That's why the guy with the bag of videos and sex toys was terrified. They did the same thing to him as did with the family of the guy who was involved in my boss's death. The police kidnap people, threaten them, assault them.

My boss's murder trial was really fucked up too. The assistant district attorney who prosecuting the case (and eventually became D.A) sent in an informant to suggest beating her and children up. The boyfriend didn't come up with this. It was the informant. And the boyfriend said something like, "how funny would that be if she and her kids disappeared before trial"?. And the assistant district attorney didn't say anything for a long time. She waited until the opening of the murder trial and said, "the defendant wants to kill me & kidnap my children. She didn't have a case. She didn't have DNA. She didn't have video. She didn't have anything. This is the kind of shit that she had to pull to win the case. Of course she wasn't allowed to use at trial, because it was pure entrapment, but the jury was there and heard say all of that. And when the jurors were questioned after the trial, they mentioned it. Despite the judge saying to ignore it, that actually factored into the boyfriend being found guilty. An one of the jurors even said something, "the boyfriend wasn't there (when the murder occurred), but he's still a bad and deserved to go to jail so I voted to convict him of this murder".

That wasn't the jury instructions. They were only supposed to find him guilty if they thought he did it. If they thought he was there and committed the murder with his own hands. And the jurors said, "he wasn't there, but he was probably involved".

That's not right. You're not supposed to convict someone because you think they might have been involved, even though they weren't there. There's supposed to be evidence.

by Anonymousreply 583January 16, 2024 10:04 PM

And the female ADA took over for Spota & knew all about the police kidnapping those 4 people and holding them hostage in police station for almost a day. She was just as bad as Spota was. This is a really, really corrupt county. I would not be surprised if the police and/or the former D.A spota knew about these women's murders, or might have even been involved in this or at least suspected Heurrman did this and just looked the other way. Half or more of the police department are crooked as can be. I wouldn't doubt it if evidence "accidentally gets contaminated" or lost. Or only half of it was collected. They're a very crooked county. And a lot of police and prosecutors have a lot to hide. Thank goodness that female district attorney (janet albertson) has since retired, but that bitch knows everything that went on in that county for the past 30 years. She literally and figuratively knows where all the bodies are buried

by Anonymousreply 584January 16, 2024 10:05 PM

R582 “Murder my vagina, DADDY!!!!!!”

by Anonymousreply 585January 16, 2024 10:07 PM

"you mean mangina, you little bitch, R585! Ain't no vagina's here, now bend over. Daddy's got something special for you."

by Anonymousreply 586January 16, 2024 11:24 PM

The media is planning to pay the wife for her story. I am not interested. The police chief requires investigation and I am interested in following up with this huge security breech.

Shannon Gilbert? Who is not a victim of this guy? I am interested in her story. Its too crazy that girl banged on peoples doors who opened the door for her but she ran off and died out in the marsh!

by Anonymousreply 587January 16, 2024 11:39 PM

Dude had a cheat sheet for this, filled with misspelled words. Two additional victims are identified as having been killed by him.

by Anonymousreply 588June 7, 2024 12:49 AM

R588, I couldn’t believe his spelling. It is clear that he is a highly organized killer, but intelligence does not equal a spelling bee.

by Anonymousreply 589June 7, 2024 1:17 AM
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