BEARKING: Titanic Sub Part 4 (survived though 5 went down)

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Thanks, OP

Yes, I kept the thread naming convention, even though I hate "BEARKING".

Oxygen levels are lower than RuPaul's T cell count.

But it's too late, baby, now it's too late

Though we really did try to make it

So morbid how the news reports are all counting down the second to the oxygen tank hitting zero

Civil society is in its sad last days

This is all BS. They do not have an exact time the oxygen runs out. It's only a guesstimate. It could have run out hours ago or they could still have hours to go. Only on the DL do they have a count down life clock by the second.

If one of them had a heart attack and dropped dead, then there would still be a few hours more oxygen left.

But if two of them had a screaming match, - 2 hours.

the final countdown?

R10 or if one killed all the rest in a bid to be the lone survivor

2 weeks later, submarine brought up to land with 1 lone survivor and all the rest are dead.

No one is gonna survive two weeks, r14

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The sub can't be a top, it's just too passive.

[quote]I wonder if any of the survivors did the Luke Skywalker sleeping bag thing with the deceased.

That was Han Solo you Nimrod.

6 months later, the submarine was pulled to the surface, but there was only one body inside, the plot thickens...

Maybe they’ve been saved by the undersea aliens from The Abyss?

I loved the Abyss, such a great movie.

[quote]That was Han Solo you Nimrod

Luke is the one who slept in it, Mary.

R19 even more bizarre, there was no dead body inside, but all their belongings intact, half eaten sandwich, video games on the tablet...what happened to the crew of Titan?

R18 I think s/he was referring to when the Tauntaur that Luke Skywalker was riding suddenly died in the tundra and he cut it open and crawled inside to keep warm.

I believe it was in the second film, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.

*Tauntaun

R23 Alien abduction, mate.

R26 would be easier to snatch people on the land?

Han Solo was the one encased in carbonite in Empire Strikes Back lest there be any confusion.

They have no air left. I'm afraid the time is up. If they haven't found them by now it's too late.

Party’s over oops out of time

My guess - the sub broke somehow and they died not long after they went missing.

then who was making the clanking noises?

Aren’t there noises naturally occurring in the ocean?

Girls, girls, you’re both right.

Han Solo cut open the tauntaun and gently placed Luke Skywalker in its warm smelly guts

R29 even if they found them, they will be dead too, it would take days or even weeks to figure out how to pull the sub up to the surface, technically, they are all dead regardless of the oxygen supply.

If one of the rescuer/recoverers dies during this whole thing, the Titanic will take on a reputaion for being as cursed as Tutankhamun's tomb.

Do understand that they all died some time ago, if not on Sunday. Implosion or hypothermia, take your pick. Oxygen, or the lack thereof, is not meaningful in this story.

Schrödinger’s passengers

Props to the Titanic on still drowning rich people 111 years later.

Everyone was fucking the twink passenger R32.

Coast Guard Twitter, for those who want to follow along.

Where do I steam The Abysh? I’m serious guys. I can’t find it anywhere.

Now R39 is how to do classic DL gallows humor.

Reading some of the comments on Coast Guard twitter confirms my belief that most people are dumb as dirt.

"Why didn't they get the search robot there sooner?"

"If Biden hadn't told them no they'd probably have been found already."

The mind boggles.

There could have been banging noises from the Titanic wreckage. The ocean makes noises..

I've been thinking about this.

Mark Martin who is an expert in maritime retreival and who has worked with and knows a few in the Titan has just said on the J Brunno podcast on youtube that at the time the Polar Prince lost contact with Titan there was a "sound event."

Meaning the Titan may have imploded.

R1

🐻👑❤️ r48

Mark Martin also said it's his understanding Titan was descending too quickly so at the time they lost contact they were trying to drop ballast to slow the descent.

He's getting this info from former colleagues on the Polar Prince.

I like the comment on the last thread: their money got them into a situation that their money couldn’t get them out of.

I hope the little robot they sent is crushed and no one returns to the Titanic. The ghost guardians of the ship fight back! We are not your entertainment!

R51 unfortunate

I was hoping to wake up to some good news, we can all benefit from a miracle but the truth is that being reckless has consequences.

I just hope they didn’t suffer long.

Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill were hot asf in THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.

I wonder if Mark ever sucked Harrison off?

[quote] This is all BS. They do not have an exact time the oxygen runs out. It's only a guesstimate.

Exactly. The oxygen usage was purely a prediction on the part of the company. It has never been out through tests to measure actual usage.

Also, if they were just pushing oxygen into that thing, that’s an amazing environment for a fire.

And how does the sub dispose of other gases? Let’s not forget this thing was designed for about half a day’s dive and ascent. All the talk about its long term survival is just company fluff.

Mark Martin says alternatively the "sound event" may have been the Titan crashing into the hull of the Titanic in an uncontrolled descent.

And this is why sonar can't distinguish Titan from the Titanic.

Based on the way this thing was constructed, wire wrap five inches thick, it almost certainly imploded. Which imo is better for the passengers than a slow death on the bottom.

Diatlov?

I don't see anything wrong here.

They paid 250,000 for the full Titanic experience and it was delivered to them.

Sinking is part of that experience.

Someone late on Thread #3 posted "It's game over."

It was "game over" the moment all communications stopped. The more realistic amongst us posted that, but I suppose hope springs eternal, etc.

It was "game over" (and "game" is very apt) not just for the passengers (MSNBC insists on calling them "the crew," perhaps to make the gargantuan "search and rescue" effort and cost---in authorities, vessels, equipment, manpower, and in regards to the taxes, real money, paid for all the aforementioned by us mere Middle-Class on-lookers---seem somehow patriotic, as though the pleasure excursion were instead headed for Normandy in 1944), but also for the company.

OceanGate is finished.

If the submersible descended directly above the Titanic - whose exact location has been known for decades - then why do they need to search an area twice the size of Connecticut?

Was there anything that Perry Como DIDN'T sing?

R21, Because of Ed Harris. He makes every movie he's in something special. But I digress.

This might be the cause of this clusterfuck.

I've broken some rules to make this': How OceanGate boss revealed the 7ins acrylic window on lost Titan sub would get 'squeezed in' under water pressure and admitted he ignored guidance to create deep sea vessel

This story will be giving me nightmares for a LONG time.

Only Superman can save them now. (Spoiler: No he couldn't. Explosive decompression five days ago)

R32, Titanic, the original wreck. Full of metal pieces falling, moving, clanking.

If you were desperately banging the walls of the stricken Titan, would you do so at only THIRTY MINUTE INTERVALS??

As long as Adam Driver and his one thousand facial moles don't star in a movie based off of this, I'd hate-watch.

Has anyone suggested the song from Bedknobs and Broomsticks as the theme song?

"Bobbing along, bobbing along on the bottom of the bee-yoo-tiful briny seas ... "

This was an accident waiting to happen. It's amazing that this didn't happen sooner...with other tours. Irresponsible and money grubbing outfit. Pure greed.

Maybe the banging sounds were from the ghosts on the Titanic because the wreck is haunted.

Well, r65, wasn't that SPECIAL?! So rebellious, so independent of science! How conveeeenient! We all like to "break the rules," sometimes, don't we? And then we say a few "Hail, Marys" and it's ALLL better.

But God made the Universe, and He included the Laws of Physics, now, didn't He?

Yes, yes He did.

Chances are pretty good we’ll never find the sub, and never know what happened

Fuck with Science and Science fucks you back, only harder and with a much bigger cock.

For r74:

r74 ... thus keeping Richard Quest busy for the rest of his life.

R75 'back' and 'cock' don't rhyme.

[quote] If you were desperately banging the walls of the stricken Titan, would you do so at only THIRTY MINUTE INTERVALS??

It's so that rescuers can tell the noise is being made by humans. Because noisy sea monsters can't tell time or knock in a pattern.

With all the currents pushing it is there any possibility it will be found? And if it is and brought to the surface and opened it won't smell or look pretty. Those people who open it will be traumatized for life.

"IT IS EASIER FOR A CAMEL TO ENTER THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE, THAN FOR A RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN." haha

But r79, 5- or 10-minute metronomic intervals would be just as "human," and might elicit a swifter response. Is what I meant.

The sheet Cunt-ing Megalomania of Stockton is what is REALLY culpable here. Never mind the fool's errand that all the would-be Nat Geo Explorers were on. OH and MONEY. Let's not forget that either. What kind of Chutzpah do you have to have to charge people $250,000 a ticket for what's supposed to be an "8 hour ride", for a contraption that bolted together with off-label parts bought off of Amazon, your local Hardware store, and a toilet comprised of Ziploc baggies. The mind boggles.

Well he didn't laugh last.

Way down……below the ocean….where I wanna be…she may be.

My antediluvian baby

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

I wanna see you someday

Titan will be found. That's assured according to those who work in the field and have brought up subs from even lower depths (off Ireland and Scotland)- unless it imploded in which case it will come up in pieces or left to rot.

R81 You might still be alive, and yes they are probably dead, but who would want to be you? You are a seething mass of vile hatred, you hate these people solely for the fact that they are extremely wealthy and you are piss poor.

And the thing is you will never change, you will always be desperately jealous of people who have more than you. If you had any real friends they would tell you the reason why you are poor, jealous and angry, it’s because you are simply unlikable, nobody wants someone like you around them. Nobody.

Now go away and pour yourself a glass of tap water, and toast the deaths of five of your fellow human beings, whose only crime was to be successful and wealthy in life. Something you have failed at. .

But some reports insist that some human was sending Morse Sode signals. The vessel banging against the Titanic vessel can't be mistaken for Morse Code.

People hold on to hope no matter what.

I doubt it will be found even if it hasn’t imploded. It relied on communication with the surface to navigate to the wreck. Once communication was lost (not uncommon apparently) it would literally be nosing about in the dark. If it lost power, currents would carry it away.

I've avoided reading these threads or any news stories because the very thought of it all makes me so anxious. Wouldn't the submarine have some kind of a homing beacon or transponder sending signals to its ship?

Why have the thoughts and prayers not helped? Are people not thinking and praying enough? SATAN IS AT WORK HERE!

Is titanic obsesssion a symptom of autism? I can’t imagine wanting to put my life in danger to see a rusty old tub on the ocean floor. And they claim they’re doing “research?” Are these no-regs-for-us entrepreneurs asking for govt money to “research” a boat we know hit an iceberg and sank?

Also -“No regs! John Galt!” became “why isn’t the government moving faster?” soon enough, didn’t it?

The guys who “move fast and break things” want the government to fix what they broke.

When Titan is found it will either have a small hole in it - probably the window area - or in pieces surrounded by a debris field like the Titanic.

R86=triggered frau CUNT

R90 Dee, I tell ya it was coz of them VAXINES and MASKS and LOCKDOWN and HUNTER BIDEN!

R91 what the fuck is wrong with you. Why do you blame everything on autism?

GARY, I KNEW IT!

What if they rescue it and one or two men are still alive and the rest are dead? Can you imagine being in that cramped sub with dead people?

It's pitch black and suddenly your other sub mates stop talking. Imagine being the last one still alive and waiting to join them.

They’re slurm

You would get a better view of the Titanic wreckage on many videos on YouTube.

I think most people realize this was a lost cause some time ago now, but had to keep up appearances of hope.

R97- I posted in that exact thing in the last thread- Its a horrifying thought- especially if its the father or son--- The only men with any experience or ability to reassure are gone- and you have lost your dad or son... In a sealed tomb with no light or any comfort. Hell on earth.

They need to check the Titanic's cabins!

r91 I was a massive Titanic fan when I was younger and not going to lie if I'd had the money I might have made this trip. I don't even know if I'd have realised what a shoddy operation it was beforehand either since I've never been in a sub. As for having to be autistic to put yourself through that people climb Everest, are signing up to colonise Mars, and visit Australia. Those are activities that if safety precautions had actually been used by this idiotic company that are far more arduous and deadly than crossing your legs for about 12 hours.

Weirdly this disaster will probably actually lead to a spike in people wanting to tour the wreck.

An interesting spin would be that this sub never really entered ocean waters. This was a planned decoy for a group of billionaires to either go into hiding or start new lives.

They lived. They breathed (for 96 hours). They took up space (in a cramped tuna can).

Unfortunately, this will add to the mystique of the Titanic...adding in the Titan now to the tragedy.

'I've broken some rules to make this': OceanGate boss Stockton Rush reveals the 7inch thick acrylic window on lost Titan sub will get 'squeezed in' under the water pressure - and admits he IGNORED guidance while creating deep sea vessel

Shoddy operation indeed. OceanGate fired the guy who warned him that the vessel was unsafe. And that was back in 2018—so this was a disaster waiting to happen.

If the don’t find some remains I bet searching for Titan remains becomes the next rich person thing. Meta.

Up next: influencers will need to get selfies with the Titan wreckage shown in portholes, behind them.

R100 kinda like crackers down in Dixie…still mourning their lost cause 150 years later.

Seamen, coming soon from Titan Media.

An implosion of bareback sex that will leave you WET and THIRSTY

What if they find the sub, but there's no bodies in it?

OceanGate General Counsel here. Just a reminder to all employees to comply with our record retention and destruction policy.

Thanks for your timely cooperation!

R90 see R81

Carbon fiber implodes confetti-style so if the sub imploded indeed, what is the chance it would have been detected ? If it was power failure the sub has like 6 ways to go back to the surface by itself without human assistance. Unless it got stuck somewhere but how ?

I hope it imploded. Better to die instantly.

Sorry if this has been posted already. An engineer's perspective on the "submarine." The billionaire did not splurge in its construction.

And Another Thing, courtesy of NYPost: OceanGate CEO Stockron Rush boasted that he didn't hire "50-year-old white guys" with military experience to captain his submersibles because they weren't "inspirational." He went on to add that military level expertise and experience was unnecessary because "anybody can drive the sub" with a $30 video game controller.

Rush stated that in submarine operations, typically "you'll see a whole bunch of 50 year old white guys . . . I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational, and I'm not going to inspire a 16 year old to go pursue marine technology, but, a 25 year old, you know, who's a sub pilot or a platform operator or one of our techs can be inspirational."

Over one million $$$$ per trip (5 people). Where did the money go? Not for better vessels...

Re my post at 118--the translation of that must be that Rush was picking up kids cheaply to work on these crafts. That, plus the likelihood that experienced military submarine pilots would have asked too many questions about safety, materials, and submitting to checks by rated industry science groups.

[quote] Is titanic obsesssion a symptom of autism? I can’t imagine wanting to put my life in danger to see a rusty old tub on the ocean floor.

It's a morbid tourist sightseeing attraction. Like the concentration camp in Dachau, Germany. Seeing something so very dark in human history. Some people are drawn to the morbid. That is why true-crime podcasts are so popular. Scam artists and snake oil salesmen exploit this type of curiosity and obsession.

Maybe they'll go total Donner Party and eat the weakest.

Were any of these people obsessed with Titanic? Or, was this just another selfie opportunity for the wealthy attention whores (see also, climbing Mt. Everest, SpaceX, etc.) and/or one-uppers (see also, "my yachts/jets/properties/cars are more expensive and numerous than yours", etc.)?

Hey everyone. It’s actually fine down here. A little cool, maybe. And not gonna lie - would be nice if we weren’t sitting in a slurry of our own human waste and Stockton’s blood. The curtained toilet was not so great lol! But the game controller works and I am DEFINITELY gonna make it to the world really soon!

Debris field found!

Coast guard RE debris field

Not good. So I guess they'll never find bodies.

[quote] Where did the money go? Not for better vessels...

I'm sorry I really don't feel that's any of your business.

R118 Go woke, go broke!

R121 Visiting a concentration camp in person could make an abstract lesson very real and put unimaginable atrocities into some kind of tangible human perspective. There's no such lesson to be learned from the sinking of the Titanic.

R128 is RuPaul.

r130, uh, yes. Life's precious. Money can't guarantee your survival on a sinking ship, etc. It's about a sense of feeling humbled and blessed at the same time.

R132 Is it a morbid tourist attraction or a blessed humbling pilgrimage?

Will there finally be a sequel? And the death scene in this is so 90's great.

r133, why can't it be both? You seem rather proud in your lack of understanding human emotion for some reason, may ask why?

Like people who go to visit Chernobyl. And then wonder years later why they’ve given birth to a two-headed baby.

Sorry, ... may I ask why?

You couldn’t force me into a minivan with 5 people, let alone one that was going to be submerged two miles into the ocean.

I’m a little bit in the edge of my seat to find out what they learn after analyzing the debris. I assume it will take a while to retrieve and analyze (do they just see it on sonar or did the submersible spot it close by?)

Honestly in one video of an interview the French guy did he seemed to fully understand the consequences of being stuck at the bottom of the ocean and didn't seem to think it would be a bad way to go in terms of dying of hypothermia. Considering that all the men onboard where grown (except the one kid) I wouldn't be surprised if they calmly accepted their fate when they knew they were fucked.

One of the pieces of debris will be the video game controller, just floating there.

I hope they had time to Live Love Laugh during their final days.

Do people realise this submersible could’ve just been tumbling in the dark for hours until it meets the ocean floor?

I don’t think these people lasted long enough to experience hunger.

R141 …with a skeleton holding it.

On news...debris field found near area of Titan. Stay tuned...

r142 Pretty sure the "laugh" part would have been prohibited for oxygen wasting reasons "live love" were probably allowed though.

They’re never going to find any debris. What a waste of money that would be. And later today the costs of recovery revert to OceanGate - they’re not going to say, “Yeah! Keep looking! Spare no expense on our dime!”

This operation is going to shut down pretty quickly later today. I’m just surprised that Elon Musk was able to come to the rescue and save the crew. He must be working on something even more urgent and complicated.

R139 The articles say it was found by search robot “on the ocean floor.” I don’t know if that means the robots were on the ocean floor itself, or surveying it from higher up.

I would think it would be difficult to operate any kind of remote machine in that kind of water pressure far down on the actual ocean floor.

*wasn’t able

We want to believe that they died instantly because we don't want to accept the true horror they went through.

It's a lie, a fantasy we create about People and places as we'd like them to be but you know what truth is? It's that little baby you're holding, and it's that man you fought with This morning, the same one you're going to make love with tonight That's truth, that's love

Do giant octopi kill people? Has anyone ever died from an octopus attack?

They’re just making this shit up.

“Yeah, a, um, robot, yeah like a robot we erm sent to the ocean floor…yeah, it found a scrap of the carbon filler which, y’know, suggests an implosion, so…yeah. There’s a story. You can all go home now.”

Jumping the gun here a bit, but… if it’s becoming obvious from the debris that the sub imploded, does that mean the bodies were basically pulverized? No bodies at all? I didn’t quite fully understand that process. Would there be parts like a head or arm floating around?

It could be unrelated debris. Just sayin’!

Elon Musk rescuing people. Right.

They couldn't even find Naya Rivera's body in a lake.

The bodies are with the fishes, mate. Probably twice digested by now.

I wouldn’t go swimming in that lake.

What do they mean there is debris?

This is the bottom of the ocean near a shipwreck, of course there is fucking debris.

Do they kean the sub exploded? If so just come out and say it

Also, why are they seeing this " debris' only now???

r155 Having him call the pilot of the Nautile a paedophile for no reason other than he's doing a better job at it than him would be entertaining though.

Maybe the sub crashed.

R150 They should have stuck to moving like Harlow in Monte Carlo

Musk only calls poor people or democrats pedophiles, R160. He doesn't ever label his billionaire peers pedos or mention the many, many real pedos in churches* or the Republican party**.

* & **For which mug shots and newspaper headlines back up.

I want to know when the sub exploded. Was it when they lost communication with it just 2 hours after launching, or was it days later?

And where was all that banging noise coming from?

Can you imagine paying that much and the bathroom is a bottle where you have to go in front of the other people?

One expert stated: “There may be more time available if the passengers have reduced their metabolic levels, he added, saying they should “rest, sleep, relax, meditate.”

Sure, Jan. WTF else does he think they could do in that cramped space? I’m sure it was pretty apparent to them if they even lasted into a 3rd hour that they were fucked. The CEO guy would’ve known they were fucked.

Did they really just say this was supposed to be only a three hour tour....?

Oh, if only fearless comedy still existed....

R159 They know there is debris on the ocean floor. To put out this tweet means they know this is different. They’ve found the remains of the sub. They’re notifying the families before announcing it publicly.

Sadly, fools and their lives are soon parted.

The rich could better the world by donating their money and not wasting it on risky adventures.

Does it say whether the 3 hours included a stop at the gift shop?

Implosion means it happened so fast they didn’t realize it and also that there won’t be a debate about the time/ cost of raising it “so they can get a proper burial”. And there won’t be ghoulish ROV side trips to view the crash site. Win-win-win.

It's curtains for them..

R165 haha. Right. We take that bottle on road trips. It fills up after two pees.

R150 😂 very funny.

A couple of reports this morning quoted unnamed sources on the mother ship as saying that Titan was descending too fast. Maybe it whammed into something down deep at the wreck site. Followed by breach and fraction-of-a-second implosion.

[quote]you know what truth is? It's that little baby you're holding, and it's that man you fought with This morning, the same one you're going to make love with tonight That's truth, that's love

MARY!!!

I wouldn't even go on a cruise ship at this point. The ocean is a deadly place. Just look at how many people have died recently in the ocean from shipwrecks and shark attacks.

...and the Orcas attacking boats...^^

Wow, on MSNBC, they just said Rush's wife had descendants who died on Titanic.

Train Tank vacuum implosion at 1 atmospheric pressure. The depth at #Titan is around 375 atmospheres. All speculation.....but a picture is worth a thousand words.

R178 yes they were the owners of Macy's that decided to stay on the ship and die together

The thing probably imploded way back on Sunday. That means death was quick and painless at least.

Debris field sounds ominous. That means it broke into pieces? 😞

How fucking old is she, if her descendants were on the Titantic? 163 years old?

The knocking/banging was eerie and it was every half hour. When was the last time they heard that?

I think the debris field thing is made up. How the hell could they find anything in the ocean at that depth and already confirm it was the Titan? They’re just wrapping this up. “Move along, people. Nothing to see here.”

They should just have the guts to say, “The ocean is a dangerous place.”

Under Pressure.

"Experts within the unified command are evaluating the information.”

This information may spell the grim reality that all lives on the sub were lost.

More Details:👇

A news conference to discuss the findings is scheduled to take place at 8pm UK time tonight.

The debris field was found by a remotely operated vehicle deployed by Horizon Arctic, a Canadian vessel. The ROV, which is equipped with cameras and sonar, had successfully managed to reach the sea floor.

Sky's US correspondent James Matthews, reporting from Boston, described the updated statement as "significant".

He added: "The word 'debris' doesn't sound good at all in a situation and at a depth where the water pressure is huge.

“It can do considerable damage to vessels - the like of the Titan - on the seabed, 4,000m (13,123ft) down. "Should the worst have happened, and that vessel was broken up somehow by the pressures at that depth, the word 'debris' would absolutely fit that worst-case scenario.”

How terrible!

[QUOTE] How fucking old is she, if her descendants were on the Titantic? 163 years old?

Quite possibly, one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on DL and that is saying a lot. You do realize, R183, that one’s “descendants” are not their contemporaries, right?

There is one thing I really do not understand and that is why the CEO, KNOWING the submersible wasn't safe at that depth, went on it anyway? He is the only one on that sub who knew without a doubt that it wasn't safe . 🤷‍♀️

R183 they were her great great grandparents, and they were OLD when they died

R191, just like the mayor of Amity.

Between the attacking orcas & the giant squids 🦑 & him bragging about cutting corners & the decompression and lack of oxygen, there better be 2 fucking Tylenol

Debris field has been discovered by the CG.

R190 you wrote the dumbest fucking thing of all time, because you can’t read!!! Read the thread above that lead to R183. Too fucking funny you are, and a moron to boot.

The only way to exit … is going piece by piece.

I'm with you, r183. And laughing at the responses to you.

This may sound cruel but implosion is the best case scenario for the crew instead of suffering for days without light, food and water while waiting to run out of air.

I hope these types of risky ventures are outlawed.

R192 which makes them her ancestors not her fucking descendants. You can’t read and you missed the joke. For fucks sake.

I've been to Davy Jones's Locker, but I've never been to me.

R191 Because he was a raging narcissist and extremely arrogant.

A fucking Slayer reference at R197! Marry me.

R192 here’s the original post…now who’s the ingrate around here? You!

‘Wow, on MSNBC, they just said Rush's wife had descendants who died on Titanic.’

Remember when jokes used to be funny?

How did they find the debris for this aluminum can but they can't find that missing Airbus?

Actually it wasn't Rush's (Oceangate CEO) wife it was the white billionaire's

I'm very hope it was an implosion instead of freezing to death, trapped in a tin can in the complete dark in a space the size of the back of my SUV. The only upside to that is it would have given them time to beat the hell of the CEO.

Some of you need to download a dictionary.

R208- Very much hope. I very much hope for an edit option as well. 🙃

R208 Makes me think of this.

211- 😆

sipped champagne on a sub

We need an all-star benefit song

That is what some experts are saying, that it imploded because of the material used. Please go to 24:29 and see what the CEO has to say with the rules that he proudly broke, he thinks to really believe that is smarter than everybody, and is so full of himself.

Mo' money, mo' problems

Kelly Clarkson just released a song for relief funds

[QUOTE] We need an all-star benefit song

Well tonight thank God it's them, instead of you...

Mrs. Mulwray: she’s my daughter, she’s my sister, she’s my ancestor, she’s my descendant.

Jake: well which fucking thing is she? Pick ONE!

That Stockton retard actually described his piece of shit arts & crafts contraption as "invulnerable"

LMAOOOOOOOO

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I said the same thing about my final project in 8th grade shop class. The teacher gave me a B-.

Why are so many people claiming that the wreck site is haunted? I understand believing it is a grave sure that should be protected, but why haunted?

Titanic kills again!

They were on the sea floor for a couple days. They were fucked and sending an SOS by banging. Finally, a bang created vibrations that effected the weakening structure, and it imploded.

The sub had been down there a few times and rose intact. But it had never been down there for days.

'Debris field' discovered in search for Titanic sub contains its 'rear cover and landing frame' which indicates 'catastrophic implosion', say experts

So that would have made it a suicide-murder thing? Sure, Jan.

A debris field implies there's a break up of the submersible and at that depth, because we know that they lost communications at around 3,300m… so that really indicates what is the worst case scenario which is a catastrophic failure, an implosion.

'The only saving grace is that it would have been immediate, literally in milliseconds and the men would have no idea what was happening,' David Mearns, a friend of two of the men on board, said during an appearance on Sky News in the UK this evening. He added: 'My worst fears have now been realized.'

A press conference has been scheduled for 3pm EST (10pm BST) where the Coast Guard said it would discuss the 'findings'.

It brings a devastating development to the search mission, which had been emphatically categorized as rescue effort - and not a recovery - by US officials. The world has been praying for a 'miracle' after rescuers estimated the vital oxygen supply would end at 7.08am EST (12.08pm UK time, 9.09pm Sydney).

Officials said the field had been found by Odysseus 6k, a remote operated vehicle (ROV) deployed by the Canadian vessel, the Horizon Arctic, that can dive 20,000ft underwater.

A glimmer of hope came yesterday when the Coast Guard confirmed consistent 'banging' noises had been detected by P-3 aircraft, but the search teams were unable to find the source of the sound, or confirm that they were the SOS signals the world had hoped for.

The families of the five men on board the sub are yet to publicly react to news of the debris discovery.

Experts have for days warned of the possibility that the Titan had sprung a leak and imploded under the pressure, which is 400 times that experienced at sea level.

The landing frame and rear cover of the missing Titan submersible have been discovered on the ocean floor, according to experts involved in the search, who say it points to the vessel suffering a 'catastrophic implosion' that will have claimed all five of the lives on board.

The US Coast Guard announced on Twitter that the 'debris field' had been found on Thursday. They are yet to confirm what was found, but Richard Garriott, President of the Explorers' Club, tells DailyMail.com his understanding from the teams involved in the search is that those items were found.

It would mean the sub suffered a crack and imploded, killing all five men on board instantly.

Titanic, the Original Gangster

OMG. What about Paul Henri?

Found out

The day after it was submitted, the lawsuit says, various engineering and HR executives invited him to a meeting at which he learned that the viewport of the submersible was only built to a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, even though the Titanic shipwreck lies nearly 4,000 meters below sea level.

The ship lost all contact one hour and 45 minutes into the dive. It takes two hours to reach the Titanic. The sub would have been; approximately 1,300 meters down when it imploded. Exactly at the limit.

[quote] imploded under the pressure, which is 400 times that experienced at sea level.

Sea level pressure is 14.7 pounds per square inch. Times 400 that comes to 5880 pounds psi

R233, He's on the plane to Lisbon.

There would be nothing left of them, if in fact it was an implosion.

R191, Hubris. Plus he wanted to personally impress the billionaire Pakistani, probably for future funding.

Well there’s some human DNA in the stomachs of nearby plankton, soon to inside a squid, soon to be inside a whale. Circle of life and all that.

You know it is a very sad situation when the fact that likely imploded and they all died instantly seems like good news.

God rest their souls.

If they found the rear cover, where is the rest of it? Even if it imploded there should be a crushed shell?

I Fall to Pieces was on their ipod

I think that OceanGate founder and CEO Stockton Rush had a death wish to die at the site of the Titanic. Took no precautions to survive that were considered standard. Suicide wish. Made it all seem ok.

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second. A modern nuclear submarine’s hull radius is about 20 feet. So the time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

Sounds gruesome but as a submariner I always wished for a quick hull-collapse death over a lengthy one like some of the crew on Kursk endured.

There are several sources of hydrocarbons inside a sub. Hydraulic oil, diesel oil from the auxiliary Diesel engine, kitchen oils, grease, rubber, plastics, etc. This stuff sublimes to make its way into the sub’s atmosphere. It permeates the crew’s clothing.

Ha ha, at R222 "San Diego-based Szasz's online flirtation came as he found himself embroiled in a furious war of words with rapper Cardi B over his decision to attend a Blink-182 concert in the wake of his stepfather's disappearance. "

I'm Going Down

Most people's lives... what are they, but trails of DEB-ris?

Each day... more DEB-ris, more DEB-ris, long, long trails of DEB-ris.... with nothing to clean it all up, but finally death.

"And death shall have no dominion"

Dylan Thomas

Water Gate

And this probably happened Sunday but the media milked it for a week so they could ignore Juneteenth.

[quote] You couldn’t force me into a minivan with 5 people, let alone one that was going to be submerged two miles into the ocean.

I mean...if I were to pay $250k for a trip down there the submersible would have to look like Air Force One on the inside.

“I saw things a girl’s not supposed to see!”

Stockton wanted to "break all the rules" as if the laws of physics care about Silicon Valley disruption speak.

He should have made "all the safety man can fit in a submersible" his selling point.

The Corvair of the Sea

I really believe they were down there for a while, days, before the sub imploded.

I still think there is a chance that they are alive.

There's no bodies on the Titanic so why are people calling it a graveyard?

They have located a debris field on the ocean floor near the Titsnic.

The US is holding a press conference for the public in one hour.

You don’t say? Do tell.

If they can find the remains of that sub, there's still hope that they can find Rebekah Vardy's mobile phone and vindicate her

OMG.......

FALSE FLAG! MK ULTRA! DEEP STATE! PSYOP!

The five of them are fine. They're having some mimosas in a grotto with some blobfish. They send their love.

An appropriate elegy...

[italic]I know deep down hidden in you submarine bells chime

[italic]Gold and groaning, sunlit toning, submerged sound sublime

[italic]So the colder, deeper tolling

[italic]Reaches dissolution

[italic]You wish a vicious whirlpool go swirling round and round[/italic]

R251 Is Juneteenth usually acknowledged by the media? I know it cause I lived in Texas briefly and a friend and I would celebrate it but I don't think the whole country does.

I think it is a federal holiday, celebrated in all states, PR, Guam, the USVI and other insular possessions. I also think you’re kinda stupid.

fuck off

Rich people need to have what other people can't afford. They don't care if its ugly or stupid or deadly. Often that's a selling point.

These guys got what everybody gets, they just paid extra to get it sooner.

OMG, this reply to the tweet at R262.

"If the rear cover is off, then that means they may have swam over to the titanic and are now safely inside."

I thought we got inane comments HERE!

We have more than our share.

Welp. That’s it for them then.

They’re dead. I know they are.

And what about the 800 drowned refugees off the coast of Greece?

^^Also dead.

Titan sub debris field: Parts of missing sub's cover found, expert says.

I take it the claims that the banging noises were in Morse code were nonsense, then?

Play us into the News Conference, Bobby!

But at least news orgs got ratings bumps and clicks. That’s the real moral of the story.

So the submarine exploded?

Let the dead bury the dead.

Imploded.

They were saying only yesterday there were banging sounds from the submarine , meaning signs of life, and now they're saying the thing exploded days ago(early into the dive) and that this explains why the sonar could not detect anything from the beginning of the search?

r276 did you hear those sounds? eerie...

R282, the banging sounds must just have been the creaking of the Titanic.

Let's send JB and Josh some love, fellas.

The banging noises were from aliens living at the bottom of the ocean.

My Titan Sub Lego project just got much easier.

Here's a News Nation report and the guy is calling Newfoundland New Finland smh.

Press conference at 3pm Eastern about the debris field.

R267- That also happened with the Kurst during search and rescue and it turned out not to have been from the sub. I find it very eerie because of the timing every 30 minutes, which is what one is trained to do in that situation. Odd, to say the least. It was last heard Wednesday.

[quote] Read the thread above that lead to [R183].

Oh, dear R196! Reads like you’ve been eating the “lead” paint again.

And here's the full statement from the company:

"We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost.

These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans. Our hearts are with these five souls and every member of their families during this tragic time. We grieve the loss of life and joy they brought to everyone they knew.

This is an extremely sad time for our dedicated employees who are exhausted and grieving deeply over this loss. The entire OceanGate family is deeply grateful for the countless men and women from multiple organisations of the international community who expedited wide-ranging resources and have worked so very hard on this mission.

We appreciate their commitment to finding these five explorers, and their days and nights of tireless work in support of our crew and their families.

This is a very sad time for the entire explorer community, and for each of the family members of those lost at sea.

We respectfully ask that the privacy of these families be respected during this most painful time."

291- Will be sued into poverty. ^

We're fine, we send our love.

Ostapenko struggling against V , 3rd set and V leads 2-0

The banging was from the sub. Then it finally imploded.

R292 and if so, I hope they play the video of him bragging that he didn't want white men in their 50s who have been sub pilots, but rather young people who have dreams but no experience.

I truly hope these idiots are just trolling. " How long did they survive after the implosion"?". 🤦

What were the banging sounds??

But why couldn’t they have spent more to try to rescue them!? We have to spend more!

It was me masturbating, r298. Sorry.

Jack seeing a chance to resurface, Rose.

so their estates are gonna be sent a bill for the whole rescue mission?

'We believe they have all been lost': Coast Guard and OceanGate Expeditions confirm deaths of five crew on board missing submersible Titan after debris was found 500meters from bow of Titanic

can their estates get a refund?

Jesus saves!

Fuck it, I'm just gonna BUY Blink-182!

Where was God?

R282, who was saying that about the banging? Those sounds could’ve been anything.

And it didn’t explode. It imploded. They’re not the same thing.

Did they blow it up?

Have they also declared Julian Sands dead?

Even though the passengers signed those waivers with DEATH mentioned repeatedly (per reports), I think the families may have grounds for a lawsuit. Disclaimers notwithstanding, there is a certain level of safety that should be presumed--i.e., that the craft should be basically worthy, not put together with figurative tissue paper, chewing gum, and a quick scoff at safety standards (because INNOVATION!).

If the company can prove that the craft should have been safe under ordinarily predictable circumstances, there's no case, but from what we've seen, it probably was riddled with minor faults that led to its implosion a couple of years into its useful life. That's not something you can ask passengers to wave away or maintain that they were fully informed of the risks. They most likely couldn't have known it was so shoddily put together.

Banging sounds heard during search:

proofreading note: I did mean "wave away," as in pooh-poohing it, not "waive."

I want to know how much was spent on the rescue effort.

What a waste of time and unneeded hysteria. I wish they would have pronounced them "likely dead" from the jump and continued searching for shit. If they miraculously found the sub intact and the passengers alive, happy twist to the story. This coverage is fucking insane. The movie isn't going to be nearly as exciting now that they're simply ash on the bottom of the ocean floor.

Covid was over 2 years of the same media commotion. At least this was only a few days. Trump has been 6 years of manufactured media content.

they have to dramatize everything for tv ratings. it's more interesting then talking about trump or hunter biden on tv.

Will President Biden address the nation from the Oval Office tonight?

‘Expedition Unknown’ host Josh Gates refused filming from Titanic sub, said it ‘didn’t perform well’

The host of the Discovery Channel adventure show “Expedition Unknown” took a diving trip in the same Titanic-bound sub that vanished over the weekend — but refused a second voyage because of safety issues that haven’t yet “been made public.”

Veteran explorer Josh Gates, 45, said Wednesday the missing OceanGate submersible, the Titan, “did not perform well” while he was aboard, so he turned down a chance to film the legendary shipwreck site.

“I had the unique opportunity to dive in the @Oceangate #Titan sub with Stockton at the helm in preparation for its maiden mission to Titanic,” Gates tweeted, referencing OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush.

“To those asking, #Titan did not perform well on my dive. Ultimately, I walked away from a huge opportunity to film Titanic due to my safety concerns w/ the @OceanGate platform,” he wrote.

He also hinted at potentially dangerous design flaws and past problems.

“There’s more to the history and design of Titan that has not been made public — much of it concerning,” he wrote.

The tourist sub disappeared Sunday while heading to the wreckage site with five people aboard, including billionaire Hamish Harding — prompting a heart-pounding search mission and race against the clock.

Industry experts and a whistleblowing employee had previously come forward with fears about the safety of the Titan — in part because OceanGate opted against certifying it through groups like the American Bureau of Shipping and Det Norske Veritas in Europe.

When Twitter users asked Gates why anyone would set foot on the tourist vessel, he replied that the trip was a thrilling chance to see a storied slice of history.

I was watching the BBC News Channel and when I saw the red "BREAKING" banner, I swear my brain rearranged it to "BEARKING" for a moment

“To those questioning why people would dive to Titanic: the ship has fascinated the world since the night she sank. It’s a time capsule to another era of our history. It takes courage to make a trip like this. Admiration and prayers for the passengers aboard,” he tweeted.

“I pray for a positive outcome to the rescue efforts of those aboard.”

On Thursday, OceanGate Expeditions co-founder Guillermo Söhnlein struck an optimistic tone — saying he believes the time window available for the rescue is “longer than what most people think.”

The 96 hours of oxygen aboard the ill-fated vessel reportedly ran out at 7 a.m. Thursday, but he said the crew likely “realized days ago” they could “extend the limits of those supplies by relaxing as much as possible.”

The kid didn't want to go but did it because it was Father's Day.

"This is a sad time for the entire explorer community." Has Dora commented?

R321 they were super relaxed…’cause they were already dead! Chum! Krill DNA snacks!

Why would he R318, there are no Americans on board.

Isn't OceanGate an American company headquartered in Washington?

The oceangate sub is dead to me.

It's official. They're dead.

It imploded.

Mike Reiss, the Simpson’s writer/show runner, sounds like a fruitcake

The sky was so blue that day, the ocean pitch black...

Well, they found debris, so the search should be over now.

This has got to be one of the most wasteful uses of money ever.

It’s funny because as I was watching that stupid, fucking movie, all I could think was “what a waste” what a fucking waste of humanity and money. It was disgusting to watch, especially when they showed how the lower class ticketed people were treated.

Like Rhett Butler said: “What a waste, waste always makes me angry”, or words to that effect.

Like some people mentioned in other threads, maybe that billionaire was philanthropic and was a Good Samaritan and this was something interesting for him to do but it was still wasteful.

I’ll never understand the fascination with that damned, cursed ship.

R330 many people in the entertainment industry are.

Insane, that is.

Linda G was correct.

Please let this be the last thread on the topic. PLEASE.

Perhaps it was the spirits of the Titanic victims who were denied a chance to escape their fate that night seeking revenge on the rich.

We killed them.

Trivia: Mike Reiss is also the creator of Queer Duck, and co-creator of The Critic

Oh that’s awful.

Sorry cause I’m ignorant, what would an implosion be? So it collapsed on them? That seems worse than an explode.

i agree with the poster upthread. It's a good experience for various agencies to learn to coordinate and learning experience for different countries to take part in such a rescue mission.

They probably knew they were all dead anyways in the beginning.

It collapsed under the weight of the sea, I imagine, R340.

I find it a bit too coincidental that when the oxygen supposedly run out they find debris.

LOL, R183. I deserve that. I wrote it so quickly that I didn't realize how I wrote it.

Tastes like chicken.

The good news is that they at least died instantly and didn’t have to suffer hours/days freezing and in absolute terror, slowly running out of oxygen. With the vessel imploding, they died before they even knew what was happening.

Do people really name their kids 'Stockton'?

Oceangate = Heaven's Gate 2.0

R346 you don't know that at all. I believe they were on the floor of the sea, for days. Banging. Then it imploded from the days of pressure.

Is it time for the new thread “Oceangate is Dead To Me!”

R322, I heard that, too. From the sister. How absolutely tragic for that poor kid. She said the dad was obsessed with Titanic and the son went for his dad due to the holiday.

[quote]Actually it wasn't Rush's (Oceangate CEO) wife it was the white billionaire's

Actually, no.

[quote]The sub can't be a top, it's just too passive.

The Atlantic has an insatiable bottom.

R349- Did they even reach the wreck site at only one hour 45 minutes into the dive?

R349 I guess that’s possible, but from what I read it seemed that they believe it imploded around the time contact was lost, and that the banging noises they recorded were likely unrelated. They may not be able to determine it either way though.

R346 & R349 It's more likely it imploded when contact was initially lost. If it had imploded on the ocean floor by the wreck of the Titanic, it's doubtful any of it would've floated to the surface.

The fact that we know more about space than the deepest parts of the ocean, should be indicative of how dangerous it is.

R356 - proving you are an IMBECILE WITH NO READING SKILLS, the "debris field" was 500 yards from the Titanic. ON THE OCEAN FLOOR. Not floating on the ocean surface.

[quote]I’ll never understand the fascination with that damned, cursed ship.

You raise of a good point, R332. Nothing will change, of course, but this whole thing captures the question of the age in which we live - we can, but should we, really?

We're all in a submersible, I fear.

Yeah, it's very unlikely that the banging noises were from them. The ocean is extremely noisy underneath and a whole number of things could have caused those noises. Most likely, they died when contact was lost.

[quote]Do people really name their kids 'Stockton'?

My parents named me 'Stockard.'

Did they check the cabins?

Brackish water

“We're all in a submersible, I fear.”

Mary!

Shubermershible

The randomness of Liza popping up still makes me laugh.

R336 good fucking luck with that!

Buck never would have driven a Volkswagen into the Dinky!

[quote]Rush’s time at Princeton also involves a series of arrests. In 1983, Rush was charged by police with drunk driving, and allegedly drove a Volkswagen into the Dinky, the train that connects Princeton University to Princeton Junction. In 1981, when Rush was a freshman, he was arrested for possession of a “controlled and deadly substance.”

I think it imploded when contact was lost.

I don't think imploded when they banged on it really hard, pounding out SOS.

I actually feel much, much better about it know they likely never knew what was even happening. Still sad, but not the horror show I thought it might be.

R344 thanks—no harm, foul…but know there were a lot of idiotic criticisms to my original, snarky reply.

Maybe they set off the implosion themselves.

This was never on my list of shitty ways to die, but now it has certainly made it to the top 3.

R370- I feel the same. The thought of those people, especially the teenager, waiting to die trapped in cold and blackness inside of a metal coffin disturbed me greatly.

Maybe it imploded from all the banging

Wasn't there reports there was a sound disturbance at the same time communication was lost? If the implosion happened after the sub had settled on sea floor, there would have been another loud noise event. And as far as I know, there have not been reports of that happening. Instead the reports were about tapping noises not of an implosion.

In short, loss of communication at the same time as noise event likely means that was when the sub imploded.

“ From the sister. How absolutely tragic for that poor kid. She said the dad was obsessed with Titanic and the son went for his dad due to the holiday.”

While I am sad at the final outcome and though I was frightened for my life to go, I take solace that - as our bodies were crushed by the catastrophic implosion of the submersible - my eyes met Dad one last time and he said with his eyes “No, son, you were not a pussy”.

“Catastrophic Implosion.” Is there any other kind?

Not a shocking outcome tbh. I assumed it was the case right from the start. It’s a shame the feel-good outcome didn’t obtain, though.

Reminds me of when that duck boat in Branson capsized.

Again, keep in mind that it really would've taken a miracle for them to survive because even if it resurfaced, they'd need someone to open it up from the outside.

I think they are sugar coating it by saying they died instantly at the beginning of the descent to make it palatable to the public.

The initial debris reports were two pieces, the so-called rear cover and the landing frame. But now they're saying five pieces--those two, plus pieces of the front, rear, and core pressure chamber/main hull. The term "nose cone" was in one description. But it's pretty definitive.

Certainly was palatable to me

R382 you're just disappointed that the rich people didn't die a gruesome death.

I DIED FOR MY FATHER'S DAY GIFT. BEAT THAT!

Done, r386.

James Cameron Speaks

R387 😂🤣

R376- Now that you reminded me, I do remember reading about an explosion/ implosion noise being reported, but I never saw anything else about it after that first report.

From R388's link:

. I’m struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself, where the captain was repeatedly warned about ice ahead of his ship, and yet he steamed at full speed into an ice field on a moonless night and many people died as a result.

That is very damning for the company, especially coming from him.

Couldn't they just go lose the 250K in Vegas and go see the Titanic exhibit they have at the Luxor?

Ryan Murphy needs to develop a Netflix series based on this tragedy with Sarah Paulson, Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Emma Roberts and Angela Bassett. It would be much more interesting with 5 women in the sub than boring old men.

R387, you may be a fucking genius. You're definitely who I want to sit next to at dinner.

R393 shut up Ryan. You're a hack.

[quote]r108 Shoddy operation indeed.[bold] OceanGate fired the guy who warned him that the vessel was unsafe. [/bold]And that was back in 2018—so this was a disaster waiting to happen.

He should be the one to write the book. Maybe if the company goes bankrupt and dissolves under the weight of lawsuits, any professional non disclosure agreements he signed will be nullified.

That tiny port window? They could have seen more if the wreck on a PC screen. I don't understand it. I suppose I never will.

Apparently, they died 2 hours into the excursion when communication was first lost. They never made it to the ocean floor.

Could one of you figure out how far away they were from the Titanic when the sub imploded?

About three hours?

R398 we'll get right on that, Rose!!

R400, Thanks.

[quote]R138 You couldn’t force me into a minivan with 5 people, let alone one that was going to be submerged two miles into the ocean.

As if you’ve never been in a fuck truck.

[italic]I saw the videos!

Did they find a necklace while they were looking around down there? Because it's probably mine. First dibs, anyway.

Did they ever figure out which 2 were banging?

R138, it's not that hard.

They died the best way, FAST. The news media asking, "how much oxygen they have, repeatedly," must be fired. They would have froze to death.

[quote]Could one of you figure out how far away they were from the Titanic when the sub imploded?

During the press conference, I think they said the debris was 1600 feet away from the bow of the Titanic, so that's all we'll ever know.

Cardi B goes off on stepson who went to concert while stepfather was missing.

[quote]They would have froze to death.

Oh, dear.

Not a bad way to go for PH. He was able to do what he loved right up to the age of 77 and as cliche as it is, he died doing what he loved. And it was quick and painless with no mess left behind, no decomposing body. It’s how I’d like to go if I had a choice.

[quote]Wasn't there reports there was a sound disturbance at the same time communication was lost?

Sea cow fart

[quote]he died doing what he loved

He loved being in an imploding tin cannister?

According to Cameron, it’s possible that they did have some awareness because some ballast might have been jettisoned before the implosion.

🤯

That's sequel talk!

The more you know

They said the Challenger astronauts died instantly too at the time.

Well, that's really gotta hurt, R408.

R413- Do you mind explaining what that means? Sorry to be so dense. Tia!

You live by Titanic, you die by Titan. IOW: Live and Let Die.

Catastrophic implosion. At least they didn’t suffer.

They died the way they lived. Stupidly.

I wonder if they can double the price for subsequent visits to Titanic since there are two wrecks now.

At least they weren't slowly crushed to death like in some trash compactor with the hull giving in inch by inch.

I bet 25 dollars that this sub sunk to the sea floor, and didn't implode until days later.

Selfishly too.

Rich people can’t even safely gawk at the watery graves of poor people. What a tragedy.

From CHATGPI

[quote]“You know, at some point, safety just is pure waste. I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything.”

I think we all know this type -- someone who, Instead of addressing other people's concerns, belittles them with a ridiculous comment. I would have run as fast as I could from him.

Gaslighting it what it was. Well how is that working out for him now?

R429 you mean because he's dead?

The thing is he likely never had a moment of doubt or regret since he died instantly. He died not knowing he was responsible for killing himself and others.

Captain Smith had a couple of hours to contemplate how it all went wrong.

r428, Tanya (Jenifer Coolidge) had a great line in the second season of The White Lotus when a fortune-teller freaked out while reading Tanya's cards. She was screaming at the fortune-teller: Why are you so negative?????

A lot of these "entrepreneurs" (like Elisabeth Holmes) dismiss professional counsel and advice that gets in the way of going forward with their ideas and even try to silence opposition that tells it like it is (that their ideas are bound to fail). And then they manage to convince rubes that their ideas work.

Many of you are concluding based on no information. Nobody has announced when this implosion happened. 2 hours? 2 days?

R430- Meant how did that work out for him, 🙃

These CEOs, they're trying to kill me!

Too soon?

Not soon enough.

This kind of reminds me of the JFK Jr. plane crash into the Atlantic.

They lost contact with them after takeoff and the search went on for like 5 days.

People were hoping/praying that they'd be found alive somehow.

R436 After reading the headline, I thought that you linked to Fox, Newsmax, or The Daily Wire. Ha - you got me!

R438- That one hurt. It was very painful to lose that young, beautiful man.

I heard in one interview that the metal material (don't know what) might have been compromised after a few dives. It expands and contracts and was probably "fatigued". Like that term.. That and other unsafe factors of that tin can. I'm glad it was quick and they didn't know what hit them.

US Navy knew days ago…

R418, it’s from an ABC TV interview, he says that the delamination sensors were on the inside of the tube so they might have had a warning because “it looks like they’d dropped their ascent weights and they were coming up and trying to manage an emergency”

Talks about it at 8:10

James Cameron does not sound like a Hollywood idiot, dumbly opining. Weird in this context. But there you go.

Thankfully Cameron has managed to make it about HIM.

R443- Thank you! 🙂

According to his obit, Papa Rush played Willis Keith in the Caine Mutiny Court-Martial. Funny that he raised a Queeg.

A fool and his money....

where is that archive tool? I want to surpass the WSJ paywall. Thanks.

[quote]I heard in one interview that the metal material (don't know what) might have been compromised after a few dives. It expands and contracts and was probably "fatigued".

Other submersibles are spherical but this one was cylindrical, so it’s no surprise how vulnerable to hydrostatic pressure. Imagine trying to crush a hollow, ball-shaped object vs. a hollow tube. The only reason this sub was tubular was to fit more passengers — safety-wise, it’s a shoddy design.

R368...That article didn't hold back on his wild and crazy times in Princeton. Usually, The Princetonian is very polite...lol.

*Daily Princetonian...^^

R398: No. They were 1 hour and 45 minutes into the descent to the Titanic site, which was supposed to take 2 hours. In other words, nearing the wreck and the ocean floor with only a short way to go, when all went dead, presumably due to the implosion event.

Sifting through reports from various agencies this morning I saw one (but only one) quoting an unnamed source from the mother ship who said just before all went dead the descent speed was faster than it was supposed to be. I have not seen that anywhere else.

Who knows, maybe the speed was out of whack and they impacted something too hard.

But given what's emerged about the cutting of corners, I'm betting simple material failure as the depth and the depth pressure increased.

So the US Navy knew there was an implosion LAST SUNDAY!?! Why did they get everyone’s hopes up?

thanks for the archive link. Here's the article.

oops here

The media has to milk it for a few days, for ratings. I despise the media more every day.

Well if the navy new, why did they allow the enormous outlay of manpower, equipment and expense in this "rescue" operation?

if the navy KNEW.....

While I hate to say anything nice about NewsNation, I have peeps in Newfoundland and they pronounce it Newfin’LAND.

If this is true, they might have had some advance notice of things going wrong.

On the other hand, this is probably just OceanGate's way of describing a "system" of meat thermometers zip-tied to old sewing-machine parts.

[quote]The most significant innovation is the proprietary real-time hull health monitoring (RTM) system. Titan is the only manned submersible to employ an integrated real-time health monitoring system. Utilizing co-located acoustic sensors and strain gauges throughout the pressure boundary, the RTM system makes it possible to analyze the effects of changing pressure on the vessel as the submersible dives deeper, and accurately assess the integrity of the structure. This onboard health analysis monitoring system provides early warning detection for the pilot with enough time to arrest the descent and safely return to surface.

The sub was people-intolerant and let one rip.

WASHINGTON—A top secret U.S. Navy acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard the Titan sub implosion hours after the submersible began its mission, officials involved in the search said. The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said. “The U.S. Navy conducted an analysis of acoustic data and detected an anomaly consistent with an implosion or explosion in the general vicinity of where the Titan submersible was operating when communications were lost,” a senior U.S. Navy official told The Wall Street Journal in a statement. “While not definitive, this information was immediately shared with the Incident Commander to assist with the ongoing search and rescue mission.” The Navy asked that the specific system used not be named, citing national security concerns.

The article says the Navy "believed," Gentle Readers. They couldn't "know" without the kind of evidence that emerged today. And even though their belief was likely correct, they couldn't very well come out and declare it as fact.

"On the other hand, this is probably just OceanGate's way of describing a "system" of meat thermometers zip-tied to old sewing-machine parts."

Old sewing-machine parts???!!! lol we raided great great grandmother's spinning jenny

Yeah, I think the “early warning detection” was probably 10 seconds before ka-BOOM!

I can imagine the groaning and creaking before the implosion. That was the stress test, but it was too late.

Cameron's probably already on the second or third draft of the screenplay.

"Hey, do you think we can get that sickly skinny singer to sing another theme song? No! Not the Carpenter one! The one from Quebec who sang the first one! WHAT?! She's turning into a human statue?! Well that's an easy fix: just tie her to a dolly and wheel her in front of the microphone. I bet we can win some more Oscars!"

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If this is Navy listening device is so top secret, why even make mention of it to the public? It wasn’t necessary to report that detail.

I assume this top secret device retains audio recording for hours on end that they could go back to since they weren’t alerted until 8 hours had passed since communication was lost. The article says the implosion was recorded very soon after communication was lost.

They knew.

Oh the sub company knew too, probably. The sub went down too fast and they probably heard it implode. hope they have to reimburse the costs.

Happy fucking father's day!

So they are just trying to cover the companies ass, right?

Well they heard a sound. Did the Navy have the summer schedule of Titan dives posted on the bulkhead? Probably not. But if they were made aware of a missing submersible, yeah, maybe they went back and checked.

[quote] On the other hand, this is probably just OceanGate's way of describing a "system" of meat thermometers zip-tied to old sewing-machine parts.

The New York Post had an article about an Austrian man who went into one of these things in 2021 and the article says, "Not only that but right before the voyage, the bracket of the stabilization tube — which balances the sub — tore and had to be “reattached with zip ties".

You called it, R462.

They let everyone believe there was hope - for days. If I were the family members I would be livid.

Who are "they"?

It’s supposed to be a top secret technology, so they didn’t say anything.

The US Navy.

I wonder if those half-hourly banging noises are connected to that Navy listening system in some way?

No one "drowned". The water pressure down there is so intense they would have been squashed like watermelons as soon as the sub came apart. Crabs are now eating the fine paste that remains.

🦀damn r482 I love crabs

R481- If it even happened at all.

I saw the captain or whatever you call him say that the glass would shatter, but stay in place in the event of an implosion. So they would have enough time to ascend with no problem. I'm thinking it didn't quite go down that way.

Oceangate got $450,000 in PPP free money from taxpayers. Fuck them.

There were "reliable" media reports that the tapping was in the form of an SOS message, and came on the half hour. Clearly that is all complete bullshit and it shows you how unreliable the media can be during live events where there is a hunger for updates.

"Oceangate got $450,000 in PPP free money from taxpayers. Fuck them."

Oh, we were fucked.

The Navy heard what they assumed was the implosion, but of course they weren't going to publicly announce that without some confirming evidence, which they got today. We don't know was the family or the company was told privately. There's nothing unusual or suspicious about that response.

Reposting this from upthread. Apparently, any engineer worth their salt knew it was going to blow.

Once again, the lawyers emerge victorious.

R413 ' it’s possible that they did have some awareness...'

R489- I'm a bit surprised that they believed they would find anything, tbh. It is incredible luck that they did, isn't it?

It's kinda fucked up, if you think about. The implosion was picked up by Navy microphones that are listening for enemy subs. It could've caused an international incident, or worse. They did not belong down there.

The Navy doesn't own the ocean.

Agree r477, its highly suspect when these maritime disasters and crashed airliners take days and even weeks to be found at sea, but let an Russian or Chinese vessel come within an inch of US waters and it's reported on with blazing accuracy within a day. I knew the reporting was bullshit days ago.

I also don't think the families will have much success with legal action either, unfortunately. Most of the maritime people who've commented on it said anyone who does this knows upfront this is hugely dangerous and risky, and you sign away your life before you do it.

Someone help me here.

When the pressure warning system goes off to signal a breach in the shell and in response the vessel drops ballast so that it can begin ascent to the surface does that action in turn create a change in pressure that only makes it worse?

r490: "Once again, the lawyers emerge victorious."

There will be little for lawyers to emerge victorious over. The company will be subject to criminal charges and will fold. The lawyers can fight over what is left in bankruptcy or through insurance. For the billionaires, this will pale next to their own fortunes.

R492 probably more than luck, considering how close the debris was found to the Titanic wreckage. They probably had some idea of a radius if they were operating on the assumption that the noise was the implosion. No idea what the actual protocol is here, but I assume had they found nothing after a certain period of time/distance they would have made a presumed dead announcement.

It's pretty astonishing that such a poorly-designed sub was greenlit in this era of health and safety regulations. It reminds me of the Challenger disaster, where red flag after red flag was ignored because it wasn't convenient.

Is there hope of recovering the bodies?

I would hate to be left at sea.

^ Greenlit by whom? As has been noted repeatedly for days, this was a private company in international waters that deliberately sidestepped any regulations or safety protocols.

Apparently the wreckage was found right near the bow of the Titanic so presumably the passengers were gawking at that scene of that tragedy when they imploded.

R500, WTF? There are no bodies to recover.

R500 they're pink mist in fishes' guts by now.

R502 1600 feet is not right next to.

Exactly r501 people are acting like this craft had to be approved like a commercial airliner has to pass the FAA. These people knew the risks, the people who built it and the passengers.

What would happen to a body at the bottom of the ocean. It isn’t pleasant, but you don’t turn to pink goo.

R501, I meant greenlit by the actual company itself.

1,600 feet is 21 tennis courts lined up end to end.

I definitely read a fair bit of critical coverage of this tourist operation when it first started taking passengers. The safety of the vessel was widely questioned with particular attention on the "window" area not being up to any existing standards.

Twitter is ON the case!!

🐻 👑 signing off for now!

[quote] I meant greenlit by the actual company itself.

(the late) Stockton Rush was the company

R506, that link is pretty useless here since it doesn't factor in what happens in an implosion.

[quote]Apparently the wreckage was found right near the bow of the Titanic so presumably the passengers were gawking at that scene of that tragedy when they imploded.

The wreckage was found 1600 feet from the bow, so not close enough to see the ship, and they were still descending when they aborted the trip by releasing the ballast. It was reported that they were trying to ascend at the time of the implosion. James Cameron speculated that the crew heard noises from the laminate or some other part of the carbon fiber shell starting to crack and that’s when they decided to turn back.

R510, those freaks trying to blame the Clintons need to get fucked.

I'm surprised they didn't blame the vaccine

[Quote] Thankfully Cameron has managed to make it about HIM.

"James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron"

So, Stockton Rush was British and married to an American woman descended from former U.S. Representative Isidor Strauss (and owner of Macy's department store) and OceanGate was headquartered in Washington State.

R485: No. The CEO said the portable plexiglass or whatever the material was, would "bend," or "flex," and would hold. He did not say it would "shatter" and hold. We don't know, of course, if the port hole was the material failure point. But it has been reported that he admitted internally within the company that it was rated only up to xxx feet or meters depth don't recall the figure, but short of the depth of the Titanic site. Pretty sure that learning this was the big sticking point for one of the former employees whose warnings were disregarded a couple years ago. One has been named, that David Loch-something who was fired. But there is a second former employee who quit, and thus far has been anonymously quoted. We are going to learn more disgraceful facts, for sure.

Isidor Struss and his wife also famously perished on Titanic.

"porthole" plexigass, not "portable," hate hate autocorrect.

[quote]Members of a massive international search effort found a debris field in the general area of the Titanic earlier in the day, and it was confirmed to contain parts of the Titan submersible.

The PlayStation controller?

(Or, I’m sorry, was it by Fisher Price.)

R510- Rich people making up conspiracy stories in order to excuse other rich people., ( Republicans) Color me shocked. 🙄

There is a spike on steaming of Titanic related movies and tvs, and of course this too!

R523- I still hate that song. One of the most overplayed songs in my lifetime.

The day after Titan went missing, they made "A night to remember" (1958) free to watch on YouTube.

R516 et al, Cameron is an asshat, but I'm honestly surprised/impressed with how restrained and respectful he's been when talking about this. He's been dragged into this story (although I'm sure he doesn't mind all that much) because of both his exploration work and the massive attention/interest he brought back to the Titanic. If I were him I would be unable to contain how furious I were at the unbelievable homicidal stupidity of this company and everyone involved. Cameron is one of many legit experts on this kind of deep sea exploration and these assholes couldn't be bothered to listen to a single one of them.

R525- A far superior Titanic movie in my opinion, my favorite one. Superior writing, superior cast.

I'm a big fan of Titanic 1953. Barbara Stanwyck!!

There's going to be another thread isn't there?

This 1996 miniseries starred DL fave CZJ and Tim Curry as a rapist.

R518

I remember being astonished at how MUCH that discrepancy was because it wasn't close.

"Lochridge had alleged major safety issues: there had been almost no unmanned testing of the craft; the alarm system would only sound off “milliseconds” before an implosion; and the porthole was only certified to withstand pressure of 1,300 meters, even though OceanGate planned to take the submersible 4,000 meters underwater".

The wreck of the Titanic lies at a depth of about 12,500 feet (3,800 meters.

R529- Yes, more than one!

The details just get worse and worse.

R533 It's fathers day and you WILL die with me, son!

R533- That poor kid should have followed his instinct. We have them for a reason.

So Mark Martin called it yesterday. based on info from his ex colleagues on the Polar Prince.

The implosion occurred at approx one hour and 45 mins into the dive when a major "sound event" was heard. The crew never knew what hit them.

That reminds me of a wedding in Brazil a few years ago.

The bride had no father and didn't want to walk down the aisle, so she arranged to be flown to the altar by helicopter, with her beloved brother giving her away.

Apparently, he was terrified of flying/heights, but did it for his sister.

The chopper then malfunctioned in flight and plummeted and everyone on board perished.

Afterward, they released the footage (there was also a videographer on board) and it was heartbreaking to see the sister so excited for her big day and trying to comfort her brother, who you could tell was thinking, "When is this fucking thing going to land?"

He looked so terrified.

[quote]r270 OMG, this reply to the tweet at [R262]. [italic] “If the rear cover is off, then that means they may have swam over to the titanic and are now safely inside."[/italic] I thought we got inane comments HERE!

Prove them WRONG, bitch! Were you there??

#Pray4TitansCrew

R537- So they had no warning and no time to attempt an assent?

I'm surprised some QAnon fan hasn't tried to claim they were punished for trying to expose pedophile rings

R538- Oh my god, I remember this- the video was horrifying- This was 2018 or so..

I remember the brother holding the sister's hand...

R541 see R510

R538 or the deplorables that died in a chopper leaving their wedding with a 1000 year old pilot

[quote]R375 Maybe it imploded from all the banging

Entirely possible.

I can see it.

Yeah yeah. What's going to happen now?

Oh, we are, indeed, r518. MUCH will come out in the civil trial$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Y'all in know what? We need to study physics more.

Like water phisics. And pressure. And Bernoulli's law. And plancs constant. And how to take something under the ocean without it breaking and killing people.

We should be smart and learn stuff. And then like build it.

R60, good point.

[quote] So they had no warning and no time to attempt an assent?

Seems more likely they shouted “No!"

Why would they shout "No"?

R548, who is "we?" There are plenty of folks who know all that, including "how to take something under the ocean without it breaking and killing people" and build accordingly. The problem is the assholes at this company didn't listen to them.

I've been a "disaster"---what? "Fan" seems hideously wrong, but what else to term the reading of books and watching of movies about all things man-made that crash, sink, explode, or in the remaining myriad ways meet their fate?---all my life. "Air Disasters" was made for me.

I like the Stanwyck/Webb movie for the human stories; the More version for the Captain and crew perspectives; and the Cameron/DiCaprio film for the brilliant and harrowing rendition of Titanic's demise.

Apparently they did realize something was wrong and were trying to ascend before it imploded

R550 I love you!

R548:- I guess so, since trial and error apparently didn’t work out so well for the guy who built the vessel…

R548: We actually have the know-how right this minute, for taking human beings to Titanic depths and lower, with a reasonable and fair probability of not having a catastrophic event. One of the military or marine industry news sources stated in one story that right this moment there are probably dozens of craft down that deep. But those craft cost tens of millions more and take many years longer to develop, test, vet, and maintain. They're not bathtub toys and they're not tourist rides. When James Cameron went to the Titanic site the first time he went in a Russian military engineered craft. Don't know specs on the one he helped design when he went to the lowest depths of the ocean floor (over twice as deep as the Titanic site) about 10 years back. But it was vetted and tested to Hell and back, and he did the trip ALONE, not with a 19-year-old kid clutching a Disney World "E" ticket.

R86, Take it up with Christ, in case you didn't recognize the speaker.

R121, Death is the fundamental object of human curiosity, far more than life.

Cameron is SO going to make a documentary about this disaster!!!

Not just because he's both an expert at this shit, and part of the small deep-sea diving community, and a brilliant filmmaker... but because it'll give him another chance to charge his deep-sea diving expenses to a film production company.

The youngest victim of the Titan sub tragedy, Suleman Dawood, 19 was ‘terrified’ about going on the trip and only joined the crew to make his father happy for Father’s Day.

I see there's a new Cameron story up, this one at NYT. The one he designed and took to the world's lowest ocean depth in 2012 was indeed experimental. But he did it alone, and drew a strong line in the story about what is unacceptable for touristpaid passenger use. Says he agrees "in principle" with Rush's claim that submitting to cert processes slows innovation, but strongly emphasizes that experimental use is unacceptable for passenger tourism. Also strongly critical of the materials and design used for Titan. Welp, he wasn't alone. There was apparently plenty of concern in that little sector.

Thanks, r561, we know (for the hundredth time)!

[quote]Crabs are now eating the fine paste that remains.

I just had crab cakes for dinner

Forgive me for asking a very dumb question: Are there actually "safe" expeditions to Titanic or was this the only one? If there were safer ones that are more experienced and regulated Titanic exploration adventure options, why would anyone choose this "Walmart" one?

Good question, R565, especially billionaires.

I read earlier that the Navy heard the implosion not long after Titan was reported missing, rather than it being immediately after it lost communication.

I'm eager to read the final analysis. Certainly some of those with more details are thinking of holding out for paid interviews or writing a book, but I want all the information now.

My gut says things were going wrong prior to the implosion, and the crew knew things weren't going well.

I read that during this kind of implosion the conditions create something similar to a gun firing. This reduces the humans to fatty globs.

It baffles me that someone this fascinated with Titanic's story would go on to recreate the same lack of risk assessment. If this was fiction I would would scoff at the storyline.

I read a headline saying the son was terrified of going in, so did his father demand he go? My claustrophobic ass would never allow me to enter that. I already get anxious when assigned the window seat on long fights. Just imagining their last moments inside that echo chamber gives ME nightmares

Should not have taken anyone who's scared. His anxiety will eat up oxygen and each of the 5 should be somewhat useful. But his $250,000 per head was too good to pass up.

R564, how fresh were they?

NOT for the faint of heart--

An example of a decompression and what it does to bodies-

You can read the entire thing-

R572- Thank you!! I was just asking on another thread if anyone remembered this.

Anderson Cooper interviewing James Cameron:

"Cameron: Here’s a case where we didn't remember the lesson of Titanic, these guys at Oceangate didn't, because the arrogance and the hubris that sent that ship to its doom is exactly the same thing that sent those people in that sub to their fate."

R563 I have been reading this as it goes along but honestly do not remember seeing that fact. Evidently missed it. I actually saw it was Father's day after the submersible had only been reported missing and they listed the passengers. I wondered about the son and if this was a gift to his father, his going on the trip with him. Good god the poor mother and aunt and everyone else. I wonder if there was anyone on the Titanic whos kid (s) did not want to go on THAT trip.

AND I wonder if they ever even SAW the Titanic before the implosion. At all.

Is it true the fish were eating them when the debris was discovered?

[quote]Are there actually "safe" expeditions to Titanic or was this the only one?

If you mean sightseeing trips for people with more money than sense, then no. OceanGate was the only one.

They got around the ethical considerations of sending tourists to the bottom of the ocean by calling their sightseeing trips "research expeditions."

Each Titan dive had one pilot; one of a rotating cast of experts in various relevant fields (to cover the "research" part); and three mission specialists, i.e., paying customers.

From the since deleted site:

[quote] Mission Specialists are people who join us by paying the mission support fee, which helps to underwrite the cost of the Titanic Expedition. Mission Specialists perform a variety of roles like diving the wreck site, gathering data, assisting with surface operations, talking with experts and much more. You can learn more about joining the Titanic Expedition as a Mission Specialist on our Titanic Expedition page.

"Research" expeditions. The wreck was found almost 40 years ago. What's left to discover?

“ The wreck was found almost 40 years ago. What's left to discover?”

Fuck you

What needs to be done is Universal or Disney should come up with a Titanic experience ride.

Dead at the bottom of the Atlantic is the new I'm on the list.

[quote]R525- A far superior Titanic movie in my opinion, my favorite one. Superior writing, superior cast.

It's my favorite, also. It benefits from having been based on Walter Lord's book of the same title, which revealed a lot of new information about the sinking. At the time Lord was writing his book, there were quite a lot of survivors still living, and Lord was the first to make a concerted effort to interview as many as he could.

At the same time, I do have a certain fondness for the Barbara Stanwyck-Clifton Webb version, which focuses on fictional personal stories, to the point where the sinking becomes more of a backdrop, until the final scenes. But at the time it was made, the Titanic had faded from popular culture, and it was made before Lord's book was published. Everyone standing in orderly fashion on the deck and calmly singing "Nearer My God to Thee" stands in sharp contrast to the panic depicted in both "A Night to Remember" and in Cameron's movie.

R25 here with some justifiable corrections that some have noted. Of course it's the "idle" rich, and "Siegfried" and Roy, with the tiger attacking the latter. I shan't hurry in these comments.

Zzzzz

This is the sign-up page, which, in retrospect, contains some unfortunate language:

[quote]2023 Expedition - Currently underway (This was the last of five missions in 2023, and was due back today.)

[quote]This is your chance to step outside of everyday life...

[quote]Welcome to the wild North Atlantic Ocean.

[quote]content experts will help you prepare for what you may discover on your dive.

[quote]The descent takes approximately two hours but it feels like the blink of an eye.

R583 here, wrong thread sorry.

That was some “blink”

R582 however, in both A NIGHT TO REMEMBER and the Stanwyck TITANIC, the ship goes down in one piece; it doesn't break in half like it did in real life.

"Five individuals can go on each dive. Three of those are what we call "mission specialists". So those are the folks who finance the mission. These are crew members and we teach them how to use the equipment"-----Captain Idiot.

R588- True. It wasn't known until Ballard discovered the wreck site.

Find the Game Controller. Then gather the greatest scientific minds to examine this complicated piece of equipment for answers.

R589 I thought Stockton Rush was British? He sounds American. Perhaps just British-born?

Stupid people are ON the case

Never mind. I just Googled. Everything seems to point to American.

Graduated from Princeton and afterward resided in Washington, where OceanGate was headquartered.

I don't know why I thought he was British.

Same difference

No clue why you thought that. Stockton sounds fully American and has all-American football jock looks. He also graduated from Princeton in '84.

He's American. Hamish Harding was British.

Part 5 linked below

He was named for his ancestor, Richard Stockton, who is no doubt rolling in his grave right now and wondering how he can get on the "I don't know her" train started by Boeing and University of Washington.

The authorities, and James Cameron, ALL KNEW the REALITY BEFORE the incredibly expansive and expensive efforts set forth---men, equipment, and government agencies and navies that could have been put to more effective service. Cameron said he was surprised by the "hair on fire" attempts.

The DM has the most coverage. An expert said the men died "instantaneously" from the weight of the breaching sea.

Great Movie R525, superior to Titanic.