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Celebrity Rumors You Do NOT Believe

Flipside of the celebrity rumors you believe thread...which ones do you think are totally fake?

The fake tabloid "rumor" where Lady Gaga was in a torrid love triangle with Bradley Cooper and Jeremy Renner and was pregnant with Brad's baby

Almost anything printed by the Entertainment Lawyer, especially the QAnon-ish ones about rape, child abuse, and sex trafficking

by Anonymousreply 249June 30, 2023 10:42 PM

Amber Heard is not deliriously happy to be hiding out in Spain.

by Anonymousreply 1June 18, 2023 5:53 AM

Trump has a chance of winning another election. Hell, no.

by Anonymousreply 2June 18, 2023 6:09 AM

Cruise and Travolta are straight.

by Anonymousreply 3June 18, 2023 6:16 AM

That Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington were murdered because they were about to uncover a child sex-trafficking ring. I've heard the same thing about other celebs who took their own lives or died suddenly. I didn't know so many celebrities were secret undercover journalists.

by Anonymousreply 4June 18, 2023 6:24 AM

R4, the Entertainment Lawyer loves to spread that bullshit around

by Anonymousreply 5June 18, 2023 6:27 AM

The love affair between Katharine and Spencer was one of the great love stories of the ages

by Anonymousreply 6June 18, 2023 7:22 AM

[Quote] The fake tabloid "rumor" where Lady Gaga was in a torrid love triangle with Bradley Cooper and Jeremy Renner and was pregnant with Brad's baby

I somehow missed that particular rumour 🤣 But both Bradley and Gaga went over the top while promoting A Star Is Born.

by Anonymousreply 7June 18, 2023 10:49 AM

Anything that's left tantalizingly vague, encouraging you to fill in the blanks yourself with whatever suits your personal tastes.

It seems to me that there's another side to PR industry where you can purchase negative rumor mongering directed at target.

by Anonymousreply 8June 18, 2023 10:59 AM

At A target. Oh dear. Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 9June 18, 2023 11:00 AM

AnnE fucking Christian while filming Batman. Apparently her team started that rumor to make her seem more alluring or some such bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 10June 18, 2023 11:30 AM

Cillian Murphy and Tom Hardy supposedly fucking during the filming of Inception. In your dreams, fangirls.

by Anonymousreply 11June 18, 2023 11:35 AM

That Philip Ober was all-man. Bigger than Milton Berle. Could go all night.

by Anonymousreply 12June 18, 2023 12:09 PM

That Kylie Jenner and Timothy Chalamet are a couple.

by Anonymousreply 13June 18, 2023 12:09 PM

That Stevie Wonder isn't really blind. That Christopher Walken and Robert Wagner killed Natalie Wood.

by Anonymousreply 14June 18, 2023 12:18 PM

Anything pushed by that bullshit artist ENTY.

by Anonymousreply 15June 18, 2023 12:33 PM

I don’t believe the Kim K getting robbed in Paris

by Anonymousreply 16June 18, 2023 12:42 PM

[quote] That Christopher Walken and Robert Wagner killed Natalie Wood.

Agreed.

For some reason, some humans want to insist that a big event has a big, mysterious cause.

Wood was drunk, slipped and drowned. That doesn't have intrigue, but, it happens.

by Anonymousreply 17June 18, 2023 12:47 PM

That Kurt Cobain was murdered. It was obviously suicide, which is a leading cause of death in people suffering severe depression. His wife had no good reason to get rid of her cash cow. The guy the nuts like to say was hired by her to kill him said he did not do it, and that Kurt would have been more likely to ask him to kill her than the other way around.

by Anonymousreply 18June 18, 2023 12:55 PM

Pink and Christina Aguilera's falling out stemmed from a three-way that they had with Prince Albert of Monaco after the World Music Awards, which involved Pink fucking Albert with a strap-on.

by Anonymousreply 19June 18, 2023 1:05 PM

R13 Timmy should have learned his lesson after the pool photos with Eiza.

by Anonymousreply 20June 18, 2023 2:39 PM

I do not believe Woody Allen molested Dylan Farrow.

by Anonymousreply 21June 18, 2023 2:51 PM

Over a decade ago, I believe, someone tried to push the gossip that Seth MacFarlane has an affair with Sir Patrick Stewart. Utterly ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 22June 18, 2023 2:59 PM

I don’t believe for a second TimoTay gave every girl at NYU chlamydia.

by Anonymousreply 23June 18, 2023 3:47 PM

Clara Bow was far too petite to take on the entire USC football team.

by Anonymousreply 24June 18, 2023 3:51 PM

I do not believe Paltrow gave Weinstein a BJ or engage in any other form of sex in order to get a role. She's hateable, so I think people make up rumors about her for fun. Her father was a successful TV producer, and Spielberg is her godfather.

by Anonymousreply 25June 18, 2023 4:44 PM

R25, I don't either (and I say that as someone who dislikes her)

R24, she dated one USC football player and the "she slept with the whole football team" bullshit rumors sprung from that

by Anonymousreply 26June 18, 2023 6:48 PM

That Kim Kardashian or rich socialites are "yachting"

Yachting is a real thing, but the people who do it are usually models or wannabes, not recognizable actors or socialites from rich families who don't need to work. And it's not just females, I know gay men who "yachted" for wealthy dudes

by Anonymousreply 27June 18, 2023 7:39 PM

Tom Hanks eats babies!

by Anonymousreply 28June 19, 2023 12:15 AM

That the whole cast from Peen Wolf slept with Jeff D.

by Anonymousreply 29June 19, 2023 12:19 AM

R24 I find the idea of Bow running a train for a hot football team hawt.

by Anonymousreply 30June 19, 2023 12:21 AM

Kim Cattrall is the difficult one.

by Anonymousreply 31June 19, 2023 12:22 AM

R30, did you get lost on the way to a straight site?!!

by Anonymousreply 32June 19, 2023 12:53 AM

John Wayne played for USC at the time which means he supposedly was one of the gang bangers.

by Anonymousreply 33June 19, 2023 12:56 AM

So plausible.

by Anonymousreply 34June 19, 2023 1:30 AM

Anything from Lainey

by Anonymousreply 35June 20, 2023 12:01 AM

Diana Ross had sex in front of a bunch of people at studio 54 in the 70s

by Anonymousreply 36June 20, 2023 12:04 AM

I think Lainey was legit for a time. Same with Deuxmoi before it became popular.

by Anonymousreply 37June 20, 2023 2:24 AM

I agree - anything from ENTY.

by Anonymousreply 38June 20, 2023 2:28 AM

Lainey was never legit. She's just some frau with no real connections.

by Anonymousreply 39June 20, 2023 2:34 AM

R15, if ENTY truly knew about the crimes going on, they would have turned them into the police. Instead they blog for site traffic.

by Anonymousreply 40June 20, 2023 7:41 PM

This is going to be unpopular but I don't think Natalie Wood was raped by Kirk Douglas. Douglas has been dead for three years and Michael's latest credits are for playing Hank Van Pym in Marvel movies. Whose lives are now going to be "ruined" by coming forward now? I just don't buy it.

by Anonymousreply 41June 21, 2023 12:27 AM

Tom Cruise gay rumor.

I've never been completely convinced that Woody Allen molested Dylan.

by Anonymousreply 42June 21, 2023 12:40 AM

Well given that Woody was hanging out with Epstein AFTER Epstein was convicted....

by Anonymousreply 43June 21, 2023 12:50 AM

I DON'T believe Britney was sexually molested by anyone at Disney or while she was in the beginning stages of her stardom.

I DO believe she was a raving nympho as it goes hand-in-hand with her bipolar mania and her rampant use of meth, AND that her hypersexuality started well before she was 18.

by Anonymousreply 44June 21, 2023 1:01 AM

Danny Thomas pooping on the glass table.

by Anonymousreply 45June 21, 2023 1:59 AM

I don't believe the Tyrone Power scat rumors

by Anonymousreply 46June 21, 2023 2:12 AM

Miss Lindsey is a ladies’ man.

by Anonymousreply 47June 21, 2023 2:34 AM

No, but he is a lady man

by Anonymousreply 48June 21, 2023 3:17 AM

Not necessarily a rumor but Lady Gaga says she’s bi and I don’t believe it at all. I love her but it feels like complete pandering. If she’s bi and most of her fans are gay, there should be no reason she wouldn’t have been romantically linked to even a single woman since she blew up in 2008. She strikes me as someone who kissed a girl once to try it out. I can’t bring this up around other Gaga fans though or they say I’m “discrediting her sexuality.” I say seeing is believing.

by Anonymousreply 49June 21, 2023 3:22 AM

Richard Gere having a gerbil removed from his anus.

It is beyond ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 50June 21, 2023 7:42 AM

That 25% of celebs have HIV

by Anonymousreply 51June 21, 2023 7:49 AM

I do not believe that Tom Cruise is gay. And even if it is true - we don't want him. He's a very scary and unwell person.

by Anonymousreply 52June 21, 2023 7:52 AM

That Heather O’Rourke died as a result of sexual abuse.

That a delusional Robin Williams ended up in the E.R. after stuffing a sock filled with with valuable watches up you-know-where because he was afraid someone was trying to steal them.

Both Enty blinds, IIRC.

by Anonymousreply 53June 21, 2023 8:04 AM

You are not alone R45

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by Anonymousreply 54June 21, 2023 10:20 AM

There was never a Trump piss tape, it was just a smear.

by Anonymousreply 55June 21, 2023 10:22 AM

R55 Trump is a well-known germaphobe, so I never believed it either.

by Anonymousreply 56June 21, 2023 11:29 AM

Bea Arthur pooping on BW's dressing room floor. That's more like something BW would do to Bea.

Karen Carpenter haunting the old A&M Studios. More BS from Schmidt and dearly departed.

by Anonymousreply 57June 21, 2023 11:39 AM

Hillary and Huma.

Any of Enty's stuff.

by Anonymousreply 58June 21, 2023 11:41 AM

The stupid "Frazzle rip" shit which is obviously made up. Fodder for retards.

by Anonymousreply 59June 21, 2023 3:24 PM

I think Entry accurately reports rumors, but does nothing to verify whether rumors are true and also doesn't care.

by Anonymousreply 60June 21, 2023 3:26 PM

I don't believe sexual abuse caused Heather O'Rourke's health problems. I don't believe that her grave was robbed and vandalized or that Macaulay Culkin gave an interview saying a big Hollywood CEO made a pair of red leather shoes out of her skin.

by Anonymousreply 61June 21, 2023 3:31 PM

I don't believe Michelle Obama is transgender.

by Anonymousreply 62June 21, 2023 3:56 PM

Any celebrity being a pedophile. It's just right wing conspiracy garbage.

by Anonymousreply 63June 21, 2023 4:10 PM

That Leonardo DiCaprio is a pussy hound. I do believe he's in an open, long-term relationship with Lukas Haas. All the young models on the yachts? Just paying gigs for all of 'em.

by Anonymousreply 64June 21, 2023 4:55 PM

That Bill Maher is cool, hip or an interesting person in any way.

by Anonymousreply 65June 21, 2023 5:18 PM

[quote] That Kurt Cobain was murdered.

He didn't need any help in killing himself. And what I really hate is the fact that I've read stuff like "Kurt was such a tortured artist, he killed himself because he didn't want to be a corporate puppet!". It's all BS. He killed himself because he was a struggling addict, the end. And if he didn't want to be a corporate puppet, he shouldn't have signed with a major label.

by Anonymousreply 66June 21, 2023 5:27 PM

Richard Gere and the gerbil.

No one has ever done that with a gerbil - not even that silver fox.

by Anonymousreply 67June 21, 2023 5:32 PM

What was the cause of Cobain's stomach problems? Wasn't he rich enough to get treatment for his ailment?

I never bought the excuse that he was an addict because of stomach pain.

by Anonymousreply 68June 21, 2023 5:32 PM

That Tom Cruise was genuinely in love with any female

by Anonymousreply 69June 21, 2023 5:35 PM

That Heath Ledger was taking every narcotic known to man for "sleep problems".

by Anonymousreply 70June 21, 2023 5:39 PM

[quote]R4, the Entertainment Lawyer loves to spread that bullshit around.

Just about every celebrity who has died within the past 10 years was actually murdered, according to Enty. Angela Lansbury may be the one exception.

But Enty's favorite subject is yachting, which is apparently the biggest industry on the West Coast.

by Anonymousreply 71June 21, 2023 5:44 PM

The George Clooney and the disabled twink rumor. No matter how shrill the truthers get-- I will never believe such a ridiculous story.

by Anonymousreply 72June 21, 2023 5:46 PM

R72, I don't believe most of the Clooney stuff. Not saying he's a saint but QAnon types target him because he's an outspoken liberal.

by Anonymousreply 73June 21, 2023 6:24 PM

[quote] I DON'T believe Britney was sexually molested by anyone at Disney or while she was in the beginning stages of her stardom. I DO believe she was a raving nympho as it goes hand-in-hand with her bipolar mania and her rampant use of meth, AND that her hypersexuality started well before she was 18.

Hypersexuality can stem from being molested. She could have been molested by a non-Disney person, e.g., her uncle that she just posted about.

by Anonymousreply 74June 21, 2023 6:40 PM

[quote] Any celebrity being a pedophile.

Really?

by Anonymousreply 75June 21, 2023 6:41 PM

[quote] Hypersexuality can stem from being molested.

She molested herself. And us with her voice.

by Anonymousreply 76June 21, 2023 6:47 PM

That George Clooney is gay. Bisexual maybe but not gay. Ghislaine Maxwell even bragged about giving him a bj.

by Anonymousreply 77June 21, 2023 6:56 PM

That Trump is a germaphobe (see R56). I think he wants people to think that, for some reason, but what evidence is there besides that he reputedly won't shake hands?

He's stuck his unwanted fingers up E. Jean Carroll, a virtual stranger to him, grabbed many others "by the pussy," been with a porn star, touched everyone and everything as far as we can tell, and given that death-grip power-play handshake to countless world leaders.

by Anonymousreply 78June 21, 2023 7:15 PM

Carly Simon beat the shit out of Chrissy Hynde in the mid 90s

by Anonymousreply 79June 21, 2023 7:29 PM

R79, it was the other way around. Chrissy beat Carly. And then told her to look at Joni onstage and went "now, THAT is a real singer".

by Anonymousreply 80June 21, 2023 7:31 PM

I believe the germaphobe thing about Trump, actually. Most famous germaphobes tend to be assholes (Howie Mandel, Marc Summers).

by Anonymousreply 81June 21, 2023 7:32 PM

Carly told Chrissy to get rid of her fucking cigarette and told her to shut up as Chrissy was drunk.

by Anonymousreply 82June 21, 2023 7:36 PM

Lea Michele was in no way fucking Corey Monteith. I'm convinced he hated that bitch so badly, he intentionally went on that tragic bender in Canada.

by Anonymousreply 83June 21, 2023 7:39 PM

That they're all into devil worship, Satanic rituals, sacrifice, etc.

by Anonymousreply 84June 21, 2023 8:01 PM

I don't believe Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King are lesbians, despite their close friendship.

by Anonymousreply 85June 21, 2023 8:17 PM

That Jack Grealish is a 100% hetero pussyhound/loverat.

Please. That boy has seen more cock in one season than half of DL combined. And his gf/beard is completely fine with it so long as she's getting her bag. Bisexual sluts can't be allowed to exist in pro-footy, though, especially not on the male side. It's either straight boys or lesbian women in this sport, no in-between.

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by Anonymousreply 86June 21, 2023 8:29 PM

The accident between Clooney and the 16-year-old waiter happened summer 2013 shortly before a "fiancée" was very publicly hired for him. QAnon didn't even come into existence until 2016/17 which is over three years later. Timeline doesn't match. It is PR's job to create doubt and DEFLECT regardless of plausibility.

He wouldn't have had to so loudly get married in 2014 if he wasn't trying to get in front of something. Parading the wedding for the public and inviting the paps and People magazine just screamed damage control and DEFLECTION. Same goes for Tammy Cruise and his loud Italian Wedding extravaganza and People spread.

Blaming the story on his "outspoken liberal views" is standard PR DEFLECTION. He is being persecuted for his political views.

The Gizlaine blowjob story was also DEFLECTION and actually planted by his PR. It is far better for his image to be thought of as straight and sleazy rather than gay. The blowjob story leaves a very heterosexual image in people's minds about him. Which is his PR's job, image control, by whatever means necessary.

The Standard Rules of PR: Deny, DEFLECT, Dismiss and Diminish the person or source making the accusation.

by Anonymousreply 87June 21, 2023 8:34 PM

Courtney Love approached El Duce to kill Kurt Cobain. If she was going to do such a thing (and I don't think she did), I think she'd find someone she could trust to get the job done. Not a sleazy, trailer trash alcoholic. He just liked to say things for shock value and get attention.

by Anonymousreply 88June 21, 2023 8:43 PM

R87 = QAnon

by Anonymousreply 89June 21, 2023 8:53 PM

R74 Britney was 100% abused. Most believable accusation out there.

by Anonymousreply 90June 21, 2023 9:01 PM

I don't believe Ghislaine Maxwell was giving men blowjobs R87.

by Anonymousreply 91June 21, 2023 9:08 PM

R91 She was Jeffrey Epstein's gf... Of course she was giving men bjs.

by Anonymousreply 92June 21, 2023 9:13 PM

R84, I reckon the point is power is going to overstep boundaries because of power. The occult or whatever is just one way to justify unrestrained power that meets the least resistance when operating in...the downlow! Power can be impulsive off the cuff ("Do you know who I am?!"), or in long-term plans they must be meticulous, patient, even ceremonial in giving cues for progressing through the phases of a masterplan.

by Anonymousreply 93June 21, 2023 9:15 PM

I don't think Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite. If she was, she'd have come out to take the heat off her transgender daughter and show solidarity with the trans community in her name.

by Anonymousreply 94June 21, 2023 11:51 PM

Nope, Britney was not 100% molested. She wasn't.

She has serious mental problems, she always has, and her hypersexuality is a part of them. Her mental issues are hereditary, and it runs in the family.

r68 Chronic Pancreatitis can cause severe stomach pain all the time. That DJ, Avicii, had it and he ended up committing suicide. Not saying he did it become of CP, but it definitely played a part into his ultimate demise.

by Anonymousreply 95June 22, 2023 1:06 AM

Wasn't Britney 14 and living with a Swedish DJ? She also to tell the "cute" story of her father telling her to put some clothes on.

by Anonymousreply 96June 22, 2023 1:21 AM

That Donna Summers was homophobic. She was ultra religious, but did not mean to offend our community. She appreciated the support of everyone.

by Anonymousreply 97June 22, 2023 1:57 AM

Eileen Davidson was born a man.

by Anonymousreply 98June 22, 2023 1:59 AM

[quote]Eileen Davidson was born a man.

Gashley is being a dick to Aunt Jack lately.

by Anonymousreply 99June 22, 2023 2:01 AM

That Kellyanne’s pussy stinks.

That was a mean, nasty rumor.

by Anonymousreply 100June 22, 2023 2:05 AM

Nah, her pussy definitely stinks

by Anonymousreply 101June 22, 2023 2:27 AM

Stevie Nicks kicked a DL’er family member in the cunt bone.

by Anonymousreply 102June 22, 2023 2:33 AM

Not a rumor, but something Stevie Nicks has claimed, over and over.

I don't believe that it was all her doctor's fault that she wasted ten years of her life on Klonopin. I believe she had multiple doctors and manipulated all of them into writing large prescriptions for Klonopin. It's Stevie Nicks' own fault that she wasted ten years of her life, high on Klonopin.

I also don't believe that Klonopin was the only drug problem she had, at the time.

by Anonymousreply 103June 22, 2023 2:44 AM

I don't believe Janet Jackson orchestrated the wardrobe malfunction on purpose. I don't think she'd be stupid enough, a black woman in America, to expose her bare tit on live TV in front of hundreds of millions of people (and their children) and destroy her career just to get a rise out of people. She was in the industry for decades. She knew how it operated.

by Anonymousreply 104June 22, 2023 3:16 AM

That Jim Nabors and Rock Hudson were married.

by Anonymousreply 105June 22, 2023 3:25 AM

IMO, Janet & Justin Timberlake both planned that reveal. That nipple piercing looked bulky as hell and, IMO, there's no way she would have worn it if she hadn't planned to reveal it. She was dancing, etc., there would've been a lot of chafing. There's no way you'd want to be wearing that unless there was a reason.

by Anonymousreply 106June 22, 2023 3:35 AM

I don’t think Tom Cruise is gay either. I think he is straight-leaning asexual; and the weirdness people pick up on in him being slightly autistic. He used to practice facial expressions in the mirror as a child so he would look likeable. It’s homophobia that in the 80s and 90s his freakiness was assigned to homosexuality.

Though, it’s almost a given he did his time on the casting couch as a young Jersey kid. One of his earliest movies is a bit part in Endless Love by Franco Zeffirelli, co-starring gorgeous twinks James Spader and Ian Ziering. The writer of Withnail and I based all of the dialogue between Uncle Monty and the Paul McGann character on a day when chased around the bedroom by Zeffirelli when he played Benvolio in Romeo and Juliet.

by Anonymousreply 107June 22, 2023 6:47 AM

Karen Carpenter and her brother had sex. I believe he was very controlling and was more of a Father figure. She was his money cow… well, she did not look like a cow.

by Anonymousreply 108June 22, 2023 7:12 AM

The things Elon said about the Thai cave diver.

by Anonymousreply 109June 22, 2023 7:54 AM

[quote] I believe the germaphobe thing about Trump, actually. Most famous germaphobes tend to be assholes (Howie Mandel, Marc Summers).

Except, we've all seen with our own eyes, trump touch all kinds of people. Some he almost refuses to let go of some of them. He was so creepy with a lot of politicians. Even when the Covid outbreak started, he continued touching everyone.

Here's just one example.

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by Anonymousreply 110June 22, 2023 8:07 AM

Richard Carpenter married his cousin.

And everytime it's mentioned they quickly add that she's not biologically related to him because she was adopted.

But, didn't they grow up together?

by Anonymousreply 111June 22, 2023 8:37 AM

Richard Carpenter always seemed uber-creepy. He looked like someone who would marry his cousin.

by Anonymousreply 112June 22, 2023 8:43 AM

Anyone who would fuck a pornstar is not a germphobe. He's just telling YOU that because he finds YOU too repulsive to touch or fuck. Wake up, hon.

by Anonymousreply 113June 22, 2023 12:03 PM

^ He also had unprotected sex with the pornstar, too!

by Anonymousreply 114June 22, 2023 4:48 PM

But R114, where would he find a condom to fit him?

by Anonymousreply 115June 22, 2023 5:25 PM

That the song "Magic Man" is about Charles Manson, and that Heart donated lots of money to Charlie over the years.

by Anonymousreply 116June 22, 2023 5:44 PM

That Dionne Warwick had bones from her hip implanted in her jawline to correct her overbite. The orthodontics were drastic, but I can’t imagine that drastic.

by Anonymousreply 117June 22, 2023 5:56 PM

That when Rumer Willis was born she was so ugly the doctor slapped Demi Moore instead of the baby.

by Anonymousreply 118June 22, 2023 6:00 PM

R118 omg, now that’s funny!

by Anonymousreply 119June 22, 2023 6:32 PM

[quote]It's Stevie Nicks' own fault that she wasted ten years of her life, high on Klonopin.

[quote]I also don't believe that Klonopin was the only drug problem she had, at the time.

Right there with you. Come on! She did so much coke back in the 70s that if you pat her on the back to this day a white cloud comes out of her nostrils!

by Anonymousreply 120June 22, 2023 7:19 PM

R120 - Klonopin doesn't make you high. It makes you low.

by Anonymousreply 121June 22, 2023 8:54 PM

I say this in every celebrity thread, but I think that there is a pedophile problem in Hollywood, but I don’t think it’s a big, organized ring. I think that pedophiles flock to showbiz, for the same reasons they flock to churches: easy access to kids from desperate families.

I also think that the most vulnerable kids are targets, not the biggest stars. Someone like Brad Renfro who came from a poor family, whose parents weren’t in the picture, is the type that pedos look for in showbiz and out of showbiz. Or Drew Barrymore, whose mother would sell them out them. Child actors like Natalie Portman, whose dad is a doctor, or Elijah Wood, who had a protective mom, aren’t targets.

by Anonymousreply 122June 22, 2023 11:38 PM

R122 didn't Elijah talk about that but then backtracked?

by Anonymousreply 123June 22, 2023 11:44 PM

R123 Yup. He specifically said that nothing every happened to him because his mom looked out for him.

by Anonymousreply 124June 22, 2023 11:45 PM

R122 do you consider the rings of people protecting Spacey + Weinstein for years, decades even their own "big, organized ring(s)"? Such well-oiled machine only happens to women and young men, children just don't appeal as much.

by Anonymousreply 125June 22, 2023 11:50 PM

There was no organized "ring" of people protecting Spacey or Weinstein, just people who chose to stay silent for their own benefit

by Anonymousreply 126June 23, 2023 12:22 AM

I don't believe Lady Gaga had a woman named Lina Morgana killed and then took over her identity.

by Anonymousreply 127June 23, 2023 1:01 AM

R122 Unfortunately, I think and know you are 100% correct. It is so very sad to think about all the kids that were harmed and all the parents that did not give one shit. I think the parents in many cases might have gotten money on the side for recruiting their child. Disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 128June 23, 2023 1:13 AM

I don't believe a lot of the random celebrity pedo rumors either. Tom Hanks seems to be a common target of them because he posts weird, random shit on Instagram like gloves or socks lying on the ground. I guess they supposedly belong to missing people who are being raped/tortured/murdered by the underground Hollywood devil rings. Jamie Lee Curtis was also a target recently because she had a picture on the wall of her friend's child playing naked in a washtub.

They build these "theories" off the flimsiest, off-the-wall bullshit. Not a single person has accused Tom Hanks or Jamie Lee Curtis of inappropriate sexual behavior as far as I know. Yet Trump, who has admitted on tape that he likes to "grab 'em by the pussy" and has been accused of sexual misconduct by many women, is a saint who is being framed by the Liberal devil worshiping machine.

by Anonymousreply 129June 23, 2023 1:32 AM

When I see people who accuse JLC, Cruise, or Hanks of that stuff, I just figure they've been raped by their daddy or peepaw and could never (or still can't) say anything about it. So, they shift their loud, misplaced blame to some celebrity. It only shows their mental cases and not that the celeb is "guilty".

by Anonymousreply 130June 23, 2023 2:16 AM

^ I know a woman who is really into QAnon and celebrity "pedo rings" and that sums her up pretty well

by Anonymousreply 131June 23, 2023 2:18 AM

R129 I have never heard Tom Hanks ever being associated with pedo rings. That seems implausible. I know him to be a very kind man. I just cannot see him or Rita EVER being associated with Pedophilia.

It’s so sad to watch trolls try to destroy someone’s life with unfounded accusations. That is some serious shit.

This explains the personality traits of trolls. This article is very informative. “The ‘Dark Triad’ of personality traits is characterised by psychopathy (continuous anti-social behaviour, impulsivity, selfishness, callous and unemotional traits and remorselessness), Machiavellianism (manipulation and exploitation of others, an absence of morality, unemotional callousness, and a higher level of self-interest) and Narcissism (by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy).

Adding sadism (cruel or demeaning behaviour to others, or intentionally inflicts physical, sexual, or psychological pain or suffering on others in order to assert power and dominance or for pleasure and enjoyment) makes up the ‘Dark Tetrad’.”

Unfortunately trolls thrive on conflict and are the most dysfunctional individuals. They thrive on ruining people. I pray they leave Tom alone.

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by Anonymousreply 132June 23, 2023 4:58 AM

J. Edgar Hoover being a cross-dresser. He was obviously either gay with Clyde Tolson or horribly repressed, but no way was he going to parties dressed in women’s clothes.

by Anonymousreply 133June 23, 2023 9:04 AM

R18 They were getting a divorce, so he would be more profitable dead.

by Anonymousreply 134June 23, 2023 9:13 AM

That Dolly Parton is gay.

by Anonymousreply 135June 23, 2023 9:13 AM

I also think that the pedos in Hollywood aren't the big stars or studio heads, but things like casting directors and onset tutors. I think pedos seek out those jobs in showbiz, for the same reasons pedos outside of showbiz seek out jobs like sports coach and youth minister.

by Anonymousreply 136June 23, 2023 3:52 PM

Tim Gunn’s father worked for the FBI. Tim Gunn said something in one of his books that lends credence to Hoover dressing as a woman. I forgot the details of the anecdote. Maybe Hoover didn’t dress up as a woman and go to an employee party, but I think he did dress up as a woman in more private situations.

I would consider Tim Gunn credible.

by Anonymousreply 137June 23, 2023 4:38 PM

A friend of mine told me a story about a notable figure in musical history which I retold here.

Entertainment Lawyer is worse than a certain plagiarist here. He stole the post and repeated it verbatim as his own story. No sourcing, no credit, no attempt at confirmation.

by Anonymousreply 138June 23, 2023 4:49 PM

I don't believe Aretha Franklin's dad fathered her first child (she was only 12 years old the first time she was pregnant). But he had plenty of sex with other women, including teenagers, and did impregnate a 12-year-old girl called Mildred Jennings.

by Anonymousreply 139June 23, 2023 4:55 PM

[quote] [R84], I reckon the point is power is going to overstep boundaries because of power. The occult or whatever is just one way to justify unrestrained power that meets the least resistance when operating in...the downlow! Power can be impulsive off the cuff ("Do you know who I am?!"), or in long-term plans they must be meticulous, patient, even ceremonial in giving cues for progressing through the phases of a masterplan.

The point of power is to control other people's perception of you. "Be nice to me / obey me ... or else!". It usually comes with the need to affirm said perceived power. Worship, for example. Or by committing heinous acts and rejoice when you get away with them. The occult, like religion, is a snake oil offering to give people who feel lost a sense of either order, purpose or higher purpose (= Look, I matter more than you!) in life.

[quote] I say this in every celebrity thread, but I think that there is a pedophile problem in Hollywood, but I don’t think it’s a big, organized ring.

There are people who use your so-called flaws against you. During the early decades of the Cold War, Russia targeted homosexuals to recruit them to turn on their home country for not accepting them as they are. Cyclist Lance Armstrong created a network of co-conspirators and entangled them into committing crimes in order to cover and protect himself and his career. In the Catholic Church, higher ranking priests protecting their fellow priests and the Church's reputation by covering up official records of child molestation accusation for decades.

If you know, "the real you" is not going to be accepted by the public, you are more likely to seek the protection and support of those who do. Of course, there will remain plenty of "lone wolves" who will act on their own, but that's like with any group of people.

Hollywood, like any other business or career driven organization, is guarded by those who control and protect the rules of the game. Anyone with ambition meets them and is told what he or she has to do in order to be allowed to play the game (become rich and famous, etc.) and that includes providing blackmail material that ensures they stay in line. Acts of pedophilia (being a pedophile yourself or just willing to do anything for your ambitious goal) are one way of being blackmailed into submission for the rest of your life (= "Selling your soul").

by Anonymousreply 140June 23, 2023 5:10 PM

I don't believe the rumor that Madonna used to drive around in a limousine, pull Puerto Rican guys off the street and have sex with them in the limousine. She seems far too disciplined (when she was younger) to do something like that. She projected a sex-obsessed image but her Sex book was not erotic at all.

by Anonymousreply 141June 23, 2023 5:16 PM

[quote] I don't believe Aretha Franklin's dad fathered her first child (she was only 12 years old the first time she was pregnant).

Why is her age - 12 - a factor? Girls get molested by family members (dad, grandpa, uncle) at much younger ages (girl's age).

by Anonymousreply 142June 23, 2023 5:17 PM

R137 It's usually the story that J Edgar, in a black dress, widow's weeds and a veil attended the private wake for Francis Cardinal Spellman in New York when Spellman died in 1967.

by Anonymousreply 143June 23, 2023 5:18 PM

R138, he also stole DL's gossip about Corey Haim being abused by Charlie Sheen

by Anonymousreply 144June 23, 2023 6:05 PM

R136, agree with that. The true pedos are more likely to seek out jobs that put them around kids. Talent agents that work with child actors specifically are often big pervs

by Anonymousreply 145June 23, 2023 6:08 PM

R143, no, that wasn't the story in Tim Gunn's book. Here's the story: Gunn's dad brought kids to the Hoover's office to meet Vivian Vance (of all people). VV and Hoover were never seen at the same time. Hoover was not there, at all, in fact - which was weird, considering it was his office. Gunn's mother was the one who put 2 + 2 together. (Hoover was dressed up as Vance.)

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by Anonymousreply 146June 23, 2023 6:27 PM

[quote] I don't believe the rumor that Madonna used to drive around in a limousine, pull Puerto Rican guys off the street and have sex with them in the limousine. She seems far too disciplined (when she was younger) to do something like that. She projected a sex-obsessed image but her Sex book was not erotic at all.

Her friend Erika Bell confirmed the rumors and then backtracked when questioned.

by Anonymousreply 147June 23, 2023 6:32 PM

Lyin’ Cancun Ted & Boebert banging?

Believe that is certainly truce.

by Anonymousreply 148June 23, 2023 6:40 PM

^true

by Anonymousreply 149June 23, 2023 6:40 PM

I don't think Margot Robbie and Will Smith hooked up.

by Anonymousreply 150June 23, 2023 6:52 PM

R141 it's so true that Sparks wrote a song about it. I believe it - it was not a well kept secret when she lived in LA

by Anonymousreply 151June 23, 2023 6:55 PM

Wait - J. Edgar Hoover dressed as Vivian Vance? LOL.

by Anonymousreply 152June 23, 2023 6:59 PM

I do not believe the rumor that if you look very closely at Madonna's instagram posts that you'll see the remains of her career; they all gone!

by Anonymousreply 153June 23, 2023 7:29 PM

"I don't believe Aretha Franklin's dad fathered her first child (she was only 12 years old the first time she was pregnant)."

Look, if Aretha's daddy impregnated another 12-year-old girl and several other teen girls, I'd say he's the prime suspect for impregnating 12-year-old Aretha!

12-year-old girls aren't looking for sex, it's forced on them by someone close to them, someone with both access and authority, like a relative, teacher, or minister. And as Aretha's daddy was both her parent and her minister, and he liked girls that age...

by Anonymousreply 154June 23, 2023 8:59 PM

I don’t believe Kesha was actually raped by her producer Dr. Luke.

by Anonymousreply 155June 23, 2023 10:42 PM

Jennifer Aniston is PREGNANT!

by Anonymousreply 156June 24, 2023 5:42 AM

Cher is Dead every other month.

by Anonymousreply 157June 24, 2023 5:56 AM

The National Enquirer has been doing the "Cher's brave last days!" for awhile now

by Anonymousreply 158June 24, 2023 6:02 AM

[quote]Jennifer Aniston is PREGNANT!

With TWINS! For the 46th time this year!

by Anonymousreply 159June 24, 2023 9:02 AM

If we are to uncritically accept Tim Gunn’s fuzzy childhood recollection at face value, that would mean that Hoover was cross-dressing in his office at FBI headquarters, which is not only preposterous on its face, but completely unattested by any other person during his five decades running the Bureau.

It’s reasonable to suspect that Hoover was a closet case hypocrite, but the cross-dressing thing has always been unsubstantiated baloney, IMHO.

by Anonymousreply 160June 24, 2023 10:02 AM

That Jackie Onassis died of AIDS, possibly acquired from Rudolph Nureyev.

by Anonymousreply 161June 24, 2023 9:08 PM

Don't believe that Tom Cruise is gay.

Skeptical about Woody Allen molesting Dylan.

For a long time I remained skeptical about Michael Jackson being a child molester. He was very odd, but there's nothing wrong with being odd. I just thought those who brought charges were opportunists. Now, I just don't know.

by Anonymousreply 162June 24, 2023 9:18 PM

You don't know if Michael was a molester? Do you know of any non-pedophiles who have slumber parties with over a hundred boys and keep books full of naked boy pictures?

by Anonymousreply 163June 24, 2023 9:30 PM

J. Edgar Hoover had a wardrobe of dresses discovered in his home closet when he deceased. That was reported in the media, not just in the tabloids.

by Anonymousreply 164June 24, 2023 10:06 PM

Shawn Mendes is straight and is devastated yet again about his breakup with Camila.

by Anonymousreply 165June 25, 2023 2:42 AM

With the possible exception of a few frauen, I don't think anyone believes that rumor, R165.

by Anonymousreply 166June 25, 2023 2:48 AM

Michael Jackson was so in love with Debbie Rowe and Lisa Marie Presley

by Anonymousreply 167June 25, 2023 3:15 AM

[quote]That Jackie Onassis died of AIDS, possibly acquired from Rudolph Nureyev.

R161 Brilliant! This is how rumors are started. I don't doubt we'll be seeing more of this soon.

by Anonymousreply 168June 25, 2023 3:54 AM

Charlie Sheen is sober

by Anonymousreply 169June 25, 2023 4:05 AM

Demi Lovato Is sober

by Anonymousreply 170June 25, 2023 4:24 AM

Demi Lovato is sexy

by Anonymousreply 171June 25, 2023 4:25 AM

Demi Lovato Is skinny

by Anonymousreply 172June 25, 2023 4:26 AM

Aaron Rodgers is still waiting for the right woman to get married to and have kids with

Lindsey Graham is just too busy to look for a wife.

by Anonymousreply 173June 25, 2023 5:54 AM

Louis B Mayer had a threesome with Ann Miller and Katharine Hepburn. Thank you, Darwin Porter.

by Anonymousreply 174June 25, 2023 6:51 AM

Anything Darwin Porter wrote

by Anonymousreply 175June 25, 2023 6:55 AM

Marlene Dietrich left dirty underwear for the Hollywood studio wardrobe women. She was German, for God sake!

by Anonymousreply 176June 25, 2023 6:59 AM

Anything Scotty Bowers wrote or said.

by Anonymousreply 177June 25, 2023 7:05 AM

Is there a reputable source for that, r164 ? And if true, any indication that they weren’t his deceased mother’s? (Hoover lived with his mother until he was 43).

by Anonymousreply 178June 25, 2023 7:35 AM

that was proposed in the movie where he put on her dress after she died.

by Anonymousreply 179June 25, 2023 7:57 AM

Helen Mirren and Jane Fonda having an argument just before they had to go on tv for the Academy Awards. The show had them holding hands as they came on stage but then again they are actors. The story is that Mirren called Jane a racist after she made a comment about Gal Gado being not all that.

by Anonymousreply 180June 25, 2023 7:59 AM

R176 What does that mean?

by Anonymousreply 181June 25, 2023 11:19 AM

That Marlene Dietrich and Greta Garbo had an affair in the early days while working on some German movie.

That George Clooney's marriage is a fake one

by Anonymousreply 182June 25, 2023 11:21 AM

R181

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by Anonymousreply 183June 25, 2023 12:21 PM

"That Marlene Dietrich and Greta Garbo had an affair in the early days while working on some German movie."

Hon, they never made a movie together.

by Anonymousreply 184June 25, 2023 5:40 PM

R180, the Entertainment Lawyer made up the "Jane Fonda is a racist" bullshit. He makes stuff up about liberals, he is a Qloon

by Anonymousreply 185June 25, 2023 5:57 PM

R184 Well, there are people who claim that they've met on the set of the 1925 little known (and lost) film The Joyless Street and became lovers. They both denied it.

by Anonymousreply 186June 25, 2023 6:05 PM

I don't believe Macaulay Culkin's claim that he was not molested by Jacko.

by Anonymousreply 187June 25, 2023 6:30 PM

R187, I don't believe it either. Michael had a pattern of using boys until they got older and then he would ditch them for a new shiny toy. Didn't Corey Feldman confirm that?

by Anonymousreply 188June 25, 2023 6:34 PM

I DO believe that Jackson was a pedo, what the hell else was he doing with all those little boys if he wasn't?

And I don't believe Culkin, I think he just doesn't want to admit it, and I don't know why.

by Anonymousreply 189June 25, 2023 6:57 PM

That Richard Simmons is straight

by Anonymousreply 190June 25, 2023 7:02 PM

I think Macaulay was touched but doesn't want to go through life being known "that guy who was molested by Michael Jackson" so he denies it

There are multiple male celebrities (fairly big names) who were attacked by Kevin Spacey but won't go public because they don't want to be known as "that guy Kevin Spacey groped"

by Anonymousreply 191June 25, 2023 7:13 PM

Agree with you, R191.

Additionally, If he admits he was abused he will be hounded forever: by the press for his story, by the other victims of Jackson for not admitting it before/to lend his celebrity status to their fight, and by Jackson's deranged fans who will threaten him and family with death.

I don't blame him for keeping silent at this stage. I only hope he has obtained counseling and has come to some amount of peace with any (alleged) abuse.

by Anonymousreply 192June 25, 2023 7:58 PM

[quote]That Richard Simmons is straight

You're joking, right? I can't imagine that's an actual rumor.

by Anonymousreply 193June 25, 2023 8:00 PM

R193- I was just being funny.

by Anonymousreply 194June 25, 2023 8:39 PM

I figured you were joking, R194. But you never know. There are DL posters who still insist that Sean Mendes is straight.

by Anonymousreply 195June 25, 2023 8:49 PM

R68, (apologies if already explained) he had a bad case of scoliosis, and his spine curvature caused friction with his digestive organs.

I do believe Courtney had him killed, there was an earlier incident when she almost successfully got him to OD with rohypnol. She would've lost everything if he was actually divorcing her.

I don't understand people who believe that Epstein is still alive and living a protected life with the masters of the universe.

by Anonymousreply 196June 25, 2023 10:57 PM

Any gay rumor about Keanu Reeves -- including the one about him marrying David Geffen. Not once has he ever seemed anything other than straight.

by Anonymousreply 197June 25, 2023 11:37 PM

Believe Josh Hawley did have a nose job plus when he was a young adult.

by Anonymousreply 198June 25, 2023 11:50 PM

[quote]Carly told Chrissy to get rid of her fucking cigarette and told her to shut up as Chrissy was drunk.

AS IF!!! This is first hand knowledge of whether or not Carly Simon smokes herself.

by Anonymousreply 199June 26, 2023 12:13 AM

R197 are you serious? Just asking. To my understanding, earlier in his career there were been rampant rumors about his sexuality. I could be wrong. He is very very private to an extreme, which is his prerogative . Even my family in California, they are in the know, are not sure because he keeps very private. Although, they have heard rumors.

by Anonymousreply 200June 26, 2023 12:15 AM

R198, he definitely did. I wonder if Peter Thiel paid for it...

by Anonymousreply 201June 26, 2023 12:30 AM

R197- I don't believe the rumors about Keanu Reeves being married to David Geffen but I do believe KR is GAY.

by Anonymousreply 202June 26, 2023 1:19 AM

I think Geffen kept Keanu but I seriously doubt they had any kind of a marriage ceremony

by Anonymousreply 203June 26, 2023 1:27 AM

R202 my thoughts exactly.

by Anonymousreply 204June 26, 2023 2:34 AM

"I don't understand people who believe that Epstein is still alive and living a protected life with the masters of the universe."

Yeah, it's pretty damn silly. Sure, I think the Master Oligarchs are capable of faking their own deaths or the deaths of anyone they find convenient, but Epstein wasn't a Master Oligarch, he was just the pimp of the moment to the Master Oligarchs.

He was the sort of person they'd get rid of, when he became inconvenient or got ideas above his station, like maybe trying to blackmail certain Powers That Be into getting him out of jail.

by Anonymousreply 205June 26, 2023 4:11 AM

R205 well isn’t Elvis still alive? I hear that all the time. People are so stupid. You can google their dead bodies and see them.

by Anonymousreply 206June 26, 2023 4:17 AM

That JFK Jr is still alive and doing his best to help Donald Trump!

by Anonymousreply 207June 26, 2023 4:19 AM

R207 That sounds like you're trying to start a rumor more than you're trying to dispute one.

by Anonymousreply 208June 26, 2023 9:52 AM

Has anyone tried to explain how JFK Jr. managed to survive that plane crash?

by Anonymousreply 209June 26, 2023 10:01 AM

R209 He didn't.

by Anonymousreply 210June 26, 2023 10:15 AM

I don't think Keanu Reeves is gay.

by Anonymousreply 211June 26, 2023 10:19 AM

That Cher and David Geffen had a romantic relationship.

by Anonymousreply 212June 26, 2023 12:00 PM

R211- I don't think Richard Simmons is gay.

by Anonymousreply 213June 26, 2023 2:37 PM

R213 I met him in the doll area of Toyfair, and he had on hot pants- with hose, middle of winter.

by Anonymousreply 214June 26, 2023 2:58 PM

[post redacted because independent.co.uk thinks that links to their ridiculous rag are a bad thing. Somebody might want to tell them how the internet works. Or not. We don't really care. They do suck though. Our advice is that you should not click on the link and whatever you do, don't read their truly terrible articles.]

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by Anonymousreply 215June 26, 2023 3:07 PM

Different link, same story.

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by Anonymousreply 216June 26, 2023 3:09 PM

[quote]That Cher and David Geffen had a romantic relationship.

I mean, really.

by Anonymousreply 217June 26, 2023 3:57 PM

[quote]QAnon supporters gather at JFK assassination site in belief that this time JFK Jr will return from the dead

Ohhhh, so they don't think that JFK Jr. survived the plane crash, they think he's going to return from the dead. That's much more believable and makes me think they might actually be right about this.

by Anonymousreply 218June 26, 2023 9:10 PM

Oh dear Lord, if someone started the rumor that JFK Jr. is going to return from the dead and endorse Trump, well. What else could have started a rumor like that, except someone trying to see just how gullible the Qanons are?

If one of you did it, go ahead and brag here! They'll never know...

by Anonymousreply 219June 26, 2023 9:25 PM

[quote]Oh dear Lord, if someone started the rumor that JFK Jr. is going to return from the dead and endorse Trump, well. What else could have started a rumor like that, except someone trying to see just how gullible the Qanons are? If one of you did it, go ahead and brag here! They'll never know...

QAnon has been saying this for years now, r219. This isn't even close to the craziest thing that they believe..

by Anonymousreply 220June 26, 2023 9:52 PM

I do not believe, that one of our modern uniformed military services , was not led by a gay man,

by Anonymousreply 221June 26, 2023 9:55 PM

r125 People overestimate how much industry people knew about Weinstein or Spacey's behavior. Today, we use the term sexual predator, but 10-15 years ago, we knew they just tried to put themselves in situations where they would try to fuck as many hot girls or guys as they could.

If youve ever listened to the recording of weinstein with that model, he asks her to come into his room about 20 times in 90 seconds. Some people aren't great at saying no or speaking up for themselves. Those who do walk away. Those who can't end up having sex or being raped by predators like that. And its a sliding scale. Not all sexual acts that Weinstein did with models and actresses were crimes. But he did commit crimes and its good he will die in prison

In any case, people knew he tried to fuck a lot of models and actresses. They had no idea he was actually dangerous to be around and was a rapist.

by Anonymousreply 222June 27, 2023 12:07 AM

[quote]I do not believe, that one of our modern uniformed military services , was not led by a gay man

R221 I'm a bit confused because of the double negatives but if what you mean is that one of our modern military services was led by a gay man, I agree. And I believe that same USMC general was appointed - and later resigned - as Secty of Defense.

by Anonymousreply 223June 27, 2023 7:26 AM

The munchkins of The Wizard of Oz had many drunken orgies while the movie was being made. Judy started this rumor when she was an aging drunk, trying to be funny in an interview, and people took it as the gospel truth. The little people have been trying to correct the rumor ever since.

by Anonymousreply 224June 27, 2023 8:02 AM

Keanu Reeves is a reptilian.

by Anonymousreply 225June 27, 2023 8:03 AM

There's a fraction of an image of a "hanging munchkin" during the forest scene of the Wizard of Oz. Many collectors have this on VHS before the film was altered with a bird replacing that image. Collectors claim the original cut showed a munchkin who committed suicide by hanging, swinging on the rope that hung him in the distance background of the trees on set--that the film accidently caught the suicide in the act but the film editors didn't notice since it was so far away in the background of the scene.

by Anonymousreply 226June 27, 2023 8:05 AM

R223

IMO a a gay man did not lead a uniformed military service “and then be appointed sec def”

It’s the sec of def position where we are not talking about the same “alleged “ person.

by Anonymousreply 227June 27, 2023 8:46 AM

R227 Thanks for your comment. I made the wrong assumption about the person to whom you are referring. My guy is obvious. Can you give a broader hint as to whom you are referring?

by Anonymousreply 228June 27, 2023 8:53 AM

R223

The flag rank I am referring to is never coming out, The book Conduct Unbecoming is a close as you will come. Sure there were lots of rumors . Or lots of knowledge about him.

A really beloved figure within the Apple eaters community.,

by Anonymousreply 229June 27, 2023 8:53 AM

Walt Disney's dead body is cryogenically frozen and stored beneath Cinderella's castle in the Magic Kingdom until such a time that modern science makes reanimation possible.

by Anonymousreply 230June 27, 2023 8:54 AM

Gene Simmons of KISS had a cow's tongue grafted over his own, giving him an extra-long oral appendage to wag at fans during concerts.

by Anonymousreply 231June 27, 2023 8:56 AM

R223

If your guy is obvious then I am confused. I did not think it was well known outside of the military who this might be. And even then I would ne supposed if a LOT knew.

I do do bet we are talking about the same person?

by Anonymousreply 232June 27, 2023 9:02 AM

R223

I think you may be confused,

Jim Webb a former Marine was named as sec navy and then resigned, but Jim is long married to a woman . No late in life marriage to a woman after life as a confirmed single man,

Jim as secnav was involved in getting my flag rank individual appointed,

by Anonymousreply 233June 27, 2023 9:09 AM

R233 I wasn't referring to Jim Webb. JW was name Secty of the Navy; my guy was appointed Secty of Defense. His name also is Jim. He was USMC although his fb was an Admiral in the Navy.

by Anonymousreply 234June 27, 2023 9:29 AM

"[R125] People overestimate how much industry people knew about Weinstein or Spacey's behavior. Today, we use the term sexual predator, but 10-15 years ago, we knew they just tried to put themselves in situations where they would try to fuck as many hot girls or guys as they could"

Okay, maybe not everyone in the movie industry knew that Weinstein and Spacey were actually committing rapes, but I think that absolutely everyone knew that Weinstein was openly engaging in Quid Quo Pro sexual harassment, because even we knew out in our various Bumfuckes, and I bet a hell of a lot of people knew both were engaging in frank sexual harassment and retaliating against anyone who turned them down.

But EVERYBODY knew about Harvey offering roles and award campaigns in exchange for sex, and IMHO they also knew that he'd actually deliver on the roles and award campaigns. AND that he might tank their careers if they said no, Weinstein offered both the carrot and the stick.

by Anonymousreply 235June 27, 2023 9:32 AM

R229 I haven't read Conduct Unbecoming but just ordered from Amazon. Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 236June 27, 2023 9:41 AM

R223

Holy cow. I had no idea at all. Not that I should.

So we are talking about two different gay men both known for being tough warriors and both got the number one job.

My guy was a VN combat vet so kind of old like me. And he was beloved. And long before don’t ask don’t tell was an option,

Conduct Unbecoming never names my general, but he is described in some detail. Including his marriage to as I remember his house keeper right before he got the main job, At the time randy wrote that book my guy was just a general not the head guy yet.

I find this kind of discussion a grey area for discussion

There is a hint somewhere in the above

by Anonymousreply 237June 27, 2023 9:53 AM

R237 I want to see a separate thread devoted to a deeper take on this. Yep, these guys were tough warriors; true Spartans.

by Anonymousreply 238June 27, 2023 10:00 AM

R238

And that particular service of all our uniformed services,

I mean the commission corps of the Public Health Service no one would blink an eye at a gay man or woman (or trans) leading .

As you can guess if you are having this conversation with some of the former enlisted of that service they will go bat shit nuts denying this.

by Anonymousreply 239June 27, 2023 10:11 AM

R239 Isn't that the group that's attached to the Navy somehow. I remember the doctor who worked in Trump's Health Secty office - He referred to himself as Admiral Brett Giroir and wore the uniform. Yikes.

by Anonymousreply 240June 28, 2023 4:49 AM

r235 I knew several women who went up for jobs working for Weinstein. Nobody around them suggested they stay away or would be part of facilitating a rape factory. I'm not sure the retaliation stuff was known about--we now know how Black Cube targeted women and probably planted coke on Rose McGowan to discredit her.

We did hear that anyone who tried to write an unflattering book or article about him ended up getting the stories killed because someone (either the journalist or their editor) would have other works of theirs purchased for film rights.

"EVERYBODY knew about Harvey offering roles and award campaigns in exchange for sex" - We know of specific instances where he retaliated against some actresses who turned him down but which actresses accused him of using an award campaign as sex bait?

Incidentally, part of what was known in NYC might not have been as clear to industry people in LA.

by Anonymousreply 241June 28, 2023 8:02 AM

R239

Nope, wrong service , wrong uniform , just kind of wrong,

But a good try .

by Anonymousreply 242June 28, 2023 10:32 AM

R239

He did not just refer to himself as an Admiral he was an Admiral. But had nothing to do with the Navy.

But a poster here mentions warrior, and spartan as far as combat and the first service you think of is the USPHS.

Well played :-)

by Anonymousreply 243June 28, 2023 11:09 AM

[quote]There's a fraction of an image of a "hanging munchkin" during the forest scene of the Wizard of Oz. Many collectors have this on VHS before the film was altered with a bird replacing that image. Collectors claim the original cut showed a munchkin who committed suicide by hanging, swinging on the rope that hung him in the distance background of the trees on set--that the film accidently caught the suicide in the act but the film editors didn't notice since it was so far away in the background of the scene.

I recall reading a very creepy horror story about that rumor, "The Hanged Man of Oz" by Steven Nagy.

by Anonymousreply 244June 30, 2023 8:19 AM

Cass Elliott died from as ham sandwich.

by Anonymousreply 245June 30, 2023 10:50 AM

That's already been debunked, R245.

by Anonymousreply 246June 30, 2023 10:52 AM

Ronan Farrow is Frank Sinatra's son.

by Anonymousreply 247June 30, 2023 10:52 AM

Agree with r247

by Anonymousreply 248June 30, 2023 6:15 PM

What I *do* believe is that Ronan Farrow wears pale blue contacts, to make himself look more like Sinatra, I've seen childhood photos of his and he had his mother's dark blue eyes when he was a kid. And as far as resemblance goes, he looks like a male clone of his mother, like his father didn't manage to get any of his own DNA in.

Now of course the old rumor about Mia Farrow was that her mother had an affair with Sinatra back in the day, and he was really Mia's biological father...

by Anonymousreply 249June 30, 2023 10:42 PM
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