[QUOTE]David Axelrod says Senator Joe Manchin is a “dead man walking, there’s nowhere for him to go,” in reference to a new poll where Manchin trails popular Republican Governor Jim Justice (R) by 22 points.
Joe Manchin: Sad Last Days?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 19, 2023 2:45 PM|
Unlike Senator Susan Collins, i truly, really am not concerned.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||June 8, 2023 9:53 PM|
Will he announce a run for President?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||June 8, 2023 9:54 PM|
So is there a pick up plan elsewhere or are is the DNC just going to rely of the wisdom of some red state to flip blue?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||June 8, 2023 9:57 PM|
What does this "wisdom' look like you sourpuss r3?
The NDSC is looking for winnable candidates in EVERY race. Manchin was actually an almost certain Dem vote on every bill if they absolutely needed his vote. He's lost his way lately perhaps because he's already dancing as fast as can and will likely lose anyway...unless he wins!
Are you a sad Berner who thinks AOC could win a West Virginia Senate seat?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||June 8, 2023 10:05 PM|
I meant the DSCC not NDSC
|by Anonymous||reply 5||June 8, 2023 10:10 PM|
WV is lost. It will flip red no matter who runs D.
So you have to look for a pickup. Colin Allred over Ted Cruz in TX is a risky bet but the others are rock solid R. Brown also very vulnerable in OH. Gallego will get rid of Sinema, Tester will hold.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||June 8, 2023 10:15 PM|
Sinema will not run as a Dem, but she will still run. Gallego will have to win a 3-person race or sit out and make it Sinema v. GOP.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||June 8, 2023 10:17 PM|
Manchin is an asshole, but we cannot afford to lose one Democrat.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||June 8, 2023 10:26 PM|
R8 don’t disagree. But feel the cause is already lost.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||June 8, 2023 10:27 PM|
Anyone cheering this is an idiot.
That's a one less seat the rethugs need to win to regain the Senate majority.
Burn it into your stupid heads: Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||June 8, 2023 10:27 PM|
This bitch again
|by Anonymous||reply 11||June 8, 2023 10:29 PM|
Manchin probably won’t run. That state is completely lost to Dems.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||June 8, 2023 10:30 PM|
*Sigh* If it wasn't for the Blue Ridge Mountains, I'd say just let the whole thing go to Ash.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||June 8, 2023 10:37 PM|
Hard map for Dems in 2024.
Biden beats Trump by 2% points, House flips back to Dems w/220 seats, Majority Leader Ernst assures nothing gets done.
Hope no Supreme Justice dies until after 2026.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||June 8, 2023 10:41 PM|
Manchin’s only hope is if the Governor loses the primary to the more MAGAt candidate.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||June 8, 2023 10:43 PM|
R14, what do you expect to happen after the ‘26 election? The Senate is likely to be under Republican control for some time to come.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||June 8, 2023 10:46 PM|
Joni Ernst as Majority Leader? Fuck that is terrifying
|by Anonymous||reply 17||June 8, 2023 10:46 PM|
How the hell does California have the same number of Senators as Wyoming? That’s the fucking problem.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||June 8, 2023 10:48 PM|
R18 - You'd have to read the Constitution to understand the answer to your question.
It's a very simple answer, actually.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||June 8, 2023 10:49 PM|
In addition to the Senate, Dems need to take a hard look at New York and understand how so many House seats there were won by Republicans. George Santos, really?
|by Anonymous||reply 20||June 8, 2023 10:53 PM|
those parts of new york are racist
|by Anonymous||reply 21||June 8, 2023 10:55 PM|
R16 Remember when Republicans looked at demography after 2012 and knew they were screwed? Then Trump happened and everyone's forgotten that.
Demography is still a real deal. US getting browner. Gen Z hating Republicans. Immigration (internal and external) to sunbelt turning red states purple: (NC, TX, AZ, NV ... even UT and KY)
And no, "oh look at Latinos and Latino evangelicals and black men and and and..." is delusion. The flow is going against Republicans... if our democracy can survive long enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||June 8, 2023 10:57 PM|
He’s 75. It’s time to say goodbye.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||June 8, 2023 10:58 PM|
R23 He's in his prime!
|by Anonymous||reply 24||June 8, 2023 10:58 PM|
[quote]Demography is still a real deal. US getting browner. Gen Z hating Republicans.
Republicans have gotten good at cheating to get around these issues. They know how to gerrymander states so all the “brown” people are concentrated in one district. And they pass laws to limit voting on college campuses and making mail-in harder, to deal with those R-hating Gen Z’s.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||June 8, 2023 11:03 PM|
R25 Which is one reason the Supreme Court's upholding of the Voting Rights legislation yesterday was HUGE, and largely unreported.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||June 8, 2023 11:05 PM|
I welcome the left-leaning immigrants from Central and South America.
They will FIGHT for our rights to abortion and gay marriage!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||June 8, 2023 11:05 PM|
Mexico and South American have MUCH MORE progressive legislation supporting gay rights than the red state Reaction. Keep up.... you are posting from 1995.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||June 8, 2023 11:08 PM|
Dems should convince Liz Cheney to run as an I in Wyoming - no primary - and then throw their support behind her for the general if she agrees to caucus with them.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||June 8, 2023 11:09 PM|
Check into what Mark Elias is doing to fight voter suppression. Help him, if you can. Help fight it in your state, help locally. Every voter makes a difference!
|by Anonymous||reply 30||June 8, 2023 11:13 PM|
She will never caucus with Dems. She still wants abortion to be illegal, and guns to be everywhere. You know, “conservative values”. She just doesn’t believe that elections can be overturned by the loser.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||June 8, 2023 11:13 PM|
r28 - your article talks about court cases in Mexico - not legislation. But you're right. Those people coming in are totes about our right to marry people of the same sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||June 8, 2023 11:13 PM|
R32 Here... a long list of legislative victories for gay rights in Mexico.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||June 8, 2023 11:30 PM|
[quote) "Joe Manchin: Sad Last Days?"
Don't tease me with a good time.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||June 8, 2023 11:36 PM|
R20, Eric Adams & his constant harping on crime played a big part in that.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||June 9, 2023 12:19 AM|
Eric Adams won his primary and election, R35. If those other New York Democrats followed his lead, they might have won and the Democrats could’ve kept the House in 2022.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||June 9, 2023 2:18 PM|
Manchin seriously flirting with a third party Presidential bid
|by Anonymous||reply 37||June 21, 2023 1:41 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 38||July 3, 2023 4:47 PM|
[quote]Are you a sad Berner who thinks AOC could win a West Virginia Senate seat?
well not now that Twitter's limiting the number of tweets you can read. Sad face emoticon. No justice! No peas!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||July 3, 2023 5:04 PM|
Now Dems need to find another state they can pick up which will be tough. Knowing Dems of course they’ll go strong for winning issues like reparations and trans rights.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||July 3, 2023 5:15 PM|
Manchin was in no way good for the Democrats aside from the fact that he caucused with them. He could not be counted on as a reliable D vote, and in fact had to be persuaded regularly (read: bribed) to [italic]not[/italic] side with the Republicans, let alone [italic]for[/italic] the Democratic position. We don't have The John Lewis Voting Rights Act and the For the People act to protect our elections from GOP jerrymandering and cheating because of Joe Manchin.
Beyond Manchin's obstruction (and I can't neglect to point out his partner in crime, Kyrsten Sinema), he is one of the most corrupt Senators. His vote (on any subject) requires expansion of fossil fuel in West Virginia, where he owns a coal mine. His daughter is the CEO of the big pharma company that tried to jack the price of insulin something like 6000%. There is no piece of legislation that moves through the Senate that doesn't make Joe Manchin a ton of money.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||July 3, 2023 5:18 PM|
[quote] Manchin was in no way good for the Democrats aside from the fact that he caucused with them.
Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?
Manchin caucusing with the Democrats was the difference between the Senate under the control of Chuck Schumer & one under the control of Mitch McConnell.
[quote] He could not be counted on as a reliable D vote
As a Democratic Senator from, of all unlikely places, West Bugtussle, he was a pretty reliable vote for all of Biden's judicial picks, including Justice Jackson.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||July 3, 2023 7:47 PM|
If control of the next Senate turns on the West Virginia voters unseating Manchin in the next election, I trust there’ll be a lot of DL crow-eating.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||July 3, 2023 7:59 PM|
[quote]As a Democratic Senator from, of all unlikely places, West Bugtussle, he was a pretty reliable vote for all of Biden's judicial picks, including Justice Jackson.
That whole surprise second wave Infrastructure bill, the reconstituted BBB was shepherded by Joe Manchin working behind the scenes. That success was a stealth Democrat maneuver of which he was a big part. I get that he's never gonna be FDR, but who is?
Are you still waiting for Bernie and Elizabeth Warren to write a Student Loan bill and get it passed? I wouldn't because those two DON'T DO SHIT!
|by Anonymous||reply 44||July 4, 2023 1:29 AM|
The Manchin haters won’t appreciate what they had until after he’s gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||July 4, 2023 1:43 AM|
I'm not so much a Manchin hater as a Manchin realist, R45 and R42. He's a 75-year-old Democrat from when the South was Democratic. The likelihood of his reelection is nil, and he's known it since his last less-than-20,000-vote victory. He's tried to play three-dimensional chess with his support rather than letting the Dems use their power when they had it. Had they passed the For the People Act, the Dems would have retained the House, and he an Synema were the reasons it didn't come up for a vote in the Senate. Synema even bragged about it at Davos, and high-fived Manchin as though this is something to be proud of. Yes, he helped spend a bunch of money and ensured that a lot of it goes to West Virginia and therefor his pocket. But this is what Democrats do. We put them in charge and they fritter away their power.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||July 4, 2023 6:41 AM|
[quote] I'm not so much a Manchin hater as a Manchin realist, [R45] and [R42]. He's a 75-year-old Democrat from when the South was Democratic. The likelihood of his reelection is nil,
Manchin will have a real chance if the popular governor (Justice) can't make it past the more MAGA challenger, a sitting congressman (Mooney).
|by Anonymous||reply 47||July 4, 2023 8:49 PM|
Whatever you think of his politics, he's a hot 75.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||July 4, 2023 10:10 PM|
The Democratic Party didn’t contribute to any of our last House of Senate races in Iowa. Every state and federal office is held by a Republican government except for Auditor! Shumer and Pelosi did not have a rural strategy for these offices.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||July 4, 2023 10:12 PM|
Gov. Justice in WV is far more corrupt than Manchin could dream of.
It's anybody's guess there I think.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||July 5, 2023 3:39 AM|
Fake Democrat/real Republican
At least we know who we’re dealing with.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||July 5, 2023 3:58 AM|
Iowa is gone statewide, R49. At least in today’s environment. There’s no point in the national party wasting any of its efforts there.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||July 5, 2023 4:20 AM|
He's a flip flop. Pick a side.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||July 5, 2023 4:32 AM|
New poll shows same result: Justice would slaughter Manchin.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||September 10, 2023 8:09 PM|
Holy Jesus, that Justice guy is a fat tub of guts! He makes Christie look svelte.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||September 10, 2023 8:30 PM|
Manchin is out for West Virginia senate
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 9, 2023 9:21 PM|
Kiss senate dealmaking goodbye with Manchin’s departure
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 19, 2023 2:45 PM|