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Bette Davis Called Her Grandson A Fag

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by Anonymousreply 138June 7, 2023 12:03 AM

Maybe she was asking for a British cigarette.

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by Anonymousreply 1June 3, 2023 6:38 PM

Well, if the shoe fits...

by Anonymousreply 2June 3, 2023 7:00 PM

I mean that’s a pretty faggy haircut on that kid.

by Anonymousreply 3June 3, 2023 7:08 PM

Bitch hated me but I at least would have called him Little Homosexual Boy.

by Anonymousreply 4June 3, 2023 7:24 PM

I don't care if someone born in 1908 used a slur like everyone else did in their day. If you wanna go that far back in history, focus on the figures like Ronald Raegan who caused real and irreparable harm.

by Anonymousreply 5June 3, 2023 7:40 PM

B.D. Hyman is a lunatic.

She is certifiably insane. She has nutty Christian videos on YouTube.

Christina Crawford always seems reasonable and thoughtful to me in interviews but Bette's daughter is without a doubt an unreliable source.

by Anonymousreply 6June 3, 2023 7:40 PM

Well, Bette wasn't wrong although she could have put it a tad more delicately. Ol' witch.

by Anonymousreply 7June 3, 2023 8:02 PM

R7 - after Hyman began her Christian ministry, she also accused La Bette of practicing the dark arts and being demon possessed.

by Anonymousreply 8June 3, 2023 8:22 PM

my memory is that in the 1960s the word wasn't as loaded. hard to imagine really.

Streisand uses the word in a line of dialog in Owl and the Pussycat, correct?

by Anonymousreply 9June 3, 2023 10:27 PM

32 years ago?

by Anonymousreply 10June 3, 2023 10:31 PM

BD is a crazy bitch. I don’t believe a word.

by Anonymousreply 11June 3, 2023 10:40 PM

Is this the grandson that recently died?

by Anonymousreply 12June 3, 2023 10:41 PM

Bette also said old age ain’t for sissies. What a homophobe!

by Anonymousreply 13June 3, 2023 10:47 PM

This video should just be imbedded in DL's interface, its posted like once a month just to remind us Bette Davis called her grandson a faggot down in 1991😂

by Anonymousreply 14June 3, 2023 11:24 PM

We had an entire thread on Old Hollywood stars and whether or not they were homophobic. Hear your answer.

by Anonymousreply 15June 3, 2023 11:27 PM

Bette Davis can call be a fag all day long.

by Anonymousreply 16June 4, 2023 12:03 AM

She sounded like an old BITCH

Just what the dl worships

by Anonymousreply 17June 4, 2023 12:07 AM

I worked with Bette Midler once, and she was the same way. You'd think she would support the gay community 100%, but she had a weird, eye-rolling attitude towards them. She'd be like, "Oh God, what are the gays up to now?"

by Anonymousreply 18June 4, 2023 12:27 AM

Hyman is insane. Bette Davis was happy to work with and befriend gay men througout her career.

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by Anonymousreply 19June 4, 2023 1:32 AM

Someone should have savagely slapped Joan Rivers for having that batshit harridan on her show.

by Anonymousreply 20June 4, 2023 2:43 AM

[quote]We had an entire thread on Old Hollywood stars and whether or not they were homophobic. Hear your answer.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 21June 4, 2023 4:53 AM

And she smoked, too! She must be canceled.

by Anonymousreply 22June 4, 2023 5:02 AM

Cancel her NOW!!!

She has been dead since 1989, but who gives a shit.

Erase all her movies from all digital databases.

Erase her name from Census records!

This makes Joan Crawford the WINNER of the Old Hollywood war for attention unless it comes out that Joan ever said anything that is offensive today, and YES, it counts if what she said was in a script. If anything is found, exhume her body and string it up on the Washington Monument as an example of what happens to you when you're born into the wrong time period and your vocabulary evolves to become offensive to someone.

Do it now. Don't delay. Death to dead celebrities who did not live as saints.

by Anonymousreply 23June 4, 2023 10:30 AM

She also, literally, claimed she witnessed her mother turn into some kind of evil creature with claws, and float outside her bedroom window. It's on a tape called BD Hyman's Testimony on YouTube.

by Anonymousreply 24June 4, 2023 11:05 AM

"Is this the grandson that recently died?"

WHO

by Anonymousreply 25June 4, 2023 11:16 AM

Bette adored Roddy McDowall!

by Anonymousreply 26June 4, 2023 11:37 AM

I was born in 1978.

My childhood was the 1980s.

Kids called one another "nerd,' "dweeb," "geek" and "fag" interchangeably. They were terms-of-endearment insults that meant nothing specific. My sister called me "fag" throughout our young lives and she feels sooooo guilty about it. She never was thinking of sexuality at all; it was just an all-purpose insult. I called her a lot of names, and none of those has become a taboo word.

Comedy movies throughout the 80s use the word fag for jokes constantly. So did comedians. The word was used to refer to gay people and the word also was used as a cultural 'haha' vocabulary word. It's not exactly the same as n**** in that that word was always used hatefully and in a way that implied inferiority. Fag was used that way but it also was used in a tangential way that sometimes had nothing to do with sexuality, and sometimes was a hybrid that was more like playfully calling someone a 'fairy,' which people still can do with a chuckle and without backlash.

I watched old 30 Rock episodes during the pandemic. I could not believe it when Liz Lemon called someone a fag. I was really floored. The episode was produced and aired in 2008. Tina Fey wrote and acted out a scene in which her character called someone a fag as a punchline in 2008.

Cultural norms change very quickly.

by Anonymousreply 27June 4, 2023 11:46 AM

[quote]B.D. Hyman is a lunatic.

That's true, but I love watching her - she looks and sounds like Bette.

by Anonymousreply 28June 4, 2023 12:30 PM

This woman refers to her children, plural, in the clip but the internet has descriptions of only one child for her. What’s up with that?

by Anonymousreply 29June 4, 2023 3:16 PM

Also, she seems somewhat fragile and easily torn, so she married into the right last name I guess.

by Anonymousreply 30June 4, 2023 3:18 PM

There were two grandsons. One allegedly recently died. I've found no information on them.

by Anonymousreply 31June 4, 2023 3:20 PM

[quote] She'd be like, "Oh God, what are the gays up to now?"

Well darling, the bitch wasn’t wrong.

by Anonymousreply 32June 4, 2023 3:24 PM

[quote] claimed she witnessed her mother turn into some kind of evil creature with claws, and float outside her bedroom window.

Now THAT I believe

by Anonymousreply 33June 4, 2023 3:25 PM

[quote] Bette adored Roddy McDowall!

Well she just assumed he was that way because he was British.

by Anonymousreply 34June 4, 2023 3:27 PM

Bette was great friends with actor Jay Robinson (Caligula in the film he Robe), who I thought was gay but he was in 2 long term marriages with women.

by Anonymousreply 35June 4, 2023 3:29 PM

*The Robe

by Anonymousreply 36June 4, 2023 3:29 PM

Bette famously was happy to look the other way when her costars were gay but if they were attractive to her she allegedly blackmailed them and made them spit roast her to 'toughen them up so they would be commanding leading men onscreen.'

'It all comes down to craft,' she said.

by Anonymousreply 37June 4, 2023 3:33 PM

Look, Bette loved the gays. She just didn't want her grandson to become one!

by Anonymousreply 38June 4, 2023 3:41 PM

I once read Elizabeth Taylor said to someone about Marilyn Monroe, “Get that dyke away from me.” Should we cancel her?

by Anonymousreply 39June 4, 2023 3:41 PM

R38 Look

by Anonymousreply 40June 4, 2023 4:10 PM

Looked up the kid (Justin Hyman). Looks like he grew up into a MAGAt. He’d have been way better off as a fag.

by Anonymousreply 41June 4, 2023 4:21 PM

R41 Any links?

by Anonymousreply 42June 4, 2023 4:23 PM

That's not surprising, R41, considering Mother Hyman

by Anonymousreply 43June 4, 2023 4:25 PM

Homophobia is fine. Look the other way. Let’s talk about reparations and equity.

by Anonymousreply 44June 4, 2023 4:28 PM

It was hilarious the way that Ryan Murphy portrayed Bette Davis to be a huge gay advocate in Feud. Revisionist history.

by Anonymousreply 45June 4, 2023 4:29 PM

R42 Found justin_hyman24 on Twitter. Seems to be him. Bunch of Fox News/Trump likes by him.

by Anonymousreply 46June 4, 2023 4:54 PM

Revisionist history, my eye, R45, unless you're talking about Hyman. Bette used to go to gay bars when they were still illegal, and she praised the gay community when the topic was brought up in her touring shows. Plus some of her closest friends were gay.

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by Anonymousreply 47June 4, 2023 5:24 PM

R23, get that stick out of your ass and calm the fuck down, Mary!

by Anonymousreply 48June 4, 2023 5:27 PM

Bette hated Joan because she made a pass at her. Her longtime assistant who just wrote about about her time with Bette confirmed it.

by Anonymousreply 49June 4, 2023 5:28 PM

I love a fag who can fix my hair and make a mean cocktail!

by Anonymousreply 50June 4, 2023 5:28 PM

Bette had major repressed Dyke vibes.

by Anonymousreply 51June 4, 2023 5:29 PM

Link, R49? Davis has gone on record as hating Crawford for stealing Franchot Tone from Bette.

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by Anonymousreply 52June 4, 2023 5:33 PM

[quote] Kids called one another "nerd,' "dweeb," "geek" and "fag" interchangeably. They were terms-of-endearment insults that meant nothing specific. My sister called me "fag" throughout our young lives and she feels sooooo guilty about it. She never was thinking of sexuality at all; it was just an all-purpose insult. I called her a lot of names, and none of those has become a taboo word.

Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 53June 4, 2023 5:34 PM

Everyone thought I was just arrogant, not brilliant, but who's the bitch who knew better than to have horrid children that would fuck up her legacy, eh?

by Anonymousreply 54June 4, 2023 7:33 PM

R46 I don't think that's him - he would be in his 50s now.

by Anonymousreply 55June 4, 2023 9:32 PM

One of BD’s sons played the lead with Bette in the TV movie, Family Reunion.

by Anonymousreply 56June 5, 2023 12:01 AM

BD is batshit insane. Anything she claims, believe the opposite.

by Anonymousreply 57June 5, 2023 12:29 AM

KATE, er Katharine the only penis you ever saw was your own!

by Anonymousreply 58June 5, 2023 1:15 AM

R29 BD is Bette's only biological child. When Bette and Gary Merrill married, they adopted two children, Michael and Margot.

by Anonymousreply 59June 5, 2023 1:43 AM

And BD had two children, both boys

by Anonymousreply 60June 5, 2023 1:48 AM

Ya know WHY I named ya B.D., don't ya?

Because I didn't want people callin ya BIG DYKE! HA!

by Anonymousreply 61June 5, 2023 1:50 AM

[quote]Bette Davis Called Her Grandson A Fag

... for reasons that are well-known to him.

by Anonymousreply 62June 5, 2023 2:54 AM

Which one of you wrote this?

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by Anonymousreply 63June 5, 2023 12:38 PM

R63 Try the link again

by Anonymousreply 64June 5, 2023 12:40 PM

Weren't most slang words for gay in Bette's era a slur? The American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973. ... and using the word "homosexual" was not conversational somehow, it was a clinical term. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I remember it. All these terms that are so offensive now were the real words friends and family used. And they were insulting, derogatory, etc.... but that's what people were really thinking. For the most part, there was no hate intended.

by Anonymousreply 65June 5, 2023 3:49 PM

All the slang used is now considered offensive ALL OF IT. Nothing like bitching about the way people were then. It's useless.

by Anonymousreply 66June 5, 2023 4:12 PM

Most people said "fairy."

by Anonymousreply 67June 5, 2023 4:35 PM

R64 The link wasn’t working.

by Anonymousreply 68June 5, 2023 6:33 PM

R68 Ok

by Anonymousreply 69June 5, 2023 6:37 PM

For some reason the thought crossed my mind of her telling her daughter, “But he is Blanche, he is a faggot. 😂

by Anonymousreply 70June 5, 2023 6:54 PM

My grandmother used to routinely refer to all gay men as faggots even when complimentary. “Those faggots sure are crafty.” “I think people should leave those faggots alone.” She stopped about 25 yrs ago. I think was she was becoming aware of its horrid use as a slur and becoming a fan of Anderson Cooper. When in college I explained to her that faggot is the equivalent of nigger to gay people she never uttered that word again not once not even sometimes which she would do after using mostly using the word homosexual or gay.

by Anonymousreply 71June 5, 2023 6:59 PM

She told him to get her a fag. She meant a cigarette.

by Anonymousreply 72June 5, 2023 9:34 PM

^ Bette was from NEW England, not England

by Anonymousreply 73June 5, 2023 10:51 PM

r46 the Justin Hyman you looked up is not Bette's grandson.

by Anonymousreply 74June 5, 2023 11:48 PM

Someone needs to find out information about these grandsons, likely in their 50s, although I seem to remember someone suggesting that one died in the last year or so.

by Anonymousreply 75June 6, 2023 12:59 AM

The younger grandson's Instagram. He loves Ducati bikes! He's in his mid-40s now. The older grandson died a few years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 76June 6, 2023 1:18 AM

R76 Just curious how you know for sure that's him? And any info on the deceased brother?

by Anonymousreply 77June 6, 2023 1:41 AM

r77 that's him. There's a post about his brother at the link.

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by Anonymousreply 78June 6, 2023 1:51 AM

R78 Thanks was just curious - I appreciate you taking the time to reply!

by Anonymousreply 79June 6, 2023 1:55 AM

This thread is yet another example of people today needing much thicker skin ….

by Anonymousreply 80June 6, 2023 2:01 AM

Which one did Bette call a fag??

by Anonymousreply 81June 6, 2023 2:42 AM

R81 Justin, according to the video at OP

by Anonymousreply 82June 6, 2023 2:51 AM

R78 That looks like the one who was in the TV movie with her.

by Anonymousreply 83June 6, 2023 3:00 AM

[quote] Weren't most slang words for gay in Bette's era a slur? The American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973. ... and using the word "homosexual" was not conversational somehow, it was a clinical term. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I remember it. All these terms that are so offensive now were the real words friends and family used. And they were insulting, derogatory, etc.... but that's what people were really thinking. For the most part, there was no hate intended.

Dear, do go fuck your stupid self.

by Anonymousreply 84June 6, 2023 3:02 AM

[quote] This thread is yet another example of people today needing much thicker skin

Bette’s fans do need to stop being pussies and accept that she had no time for their pansy asses.

by Anonymousreply 85June 6, 2023 3:03 AM

Where’s the proof that that’s his Instagram. We need receipts.

by Anonymousreply 86June 6, 2023 3:04 AM

r86 it's his Insta

by Anonymousreply 87June 6, 2023 3:07 AM

R86 One of the posts was also some certificate showing his name - Justin Hyman. Thanks to R76

by Anonymousreply 88June 6, 2023 3:08 AM

Where on that Instagram is proof that that’s him? He follows no Hymans. He’s not Italian. There’s nothing.

by Anonymousreply 89June 6, 2023 3:08 AM

Track expert and Bike Enthusiast Justin Hyman

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by Anonymousreply 90June 6, 2023 3:08 AM

Link to the post with his name.

by Anonymousreply 91June 6, 2023 3:10 AM

There are many Justin Hymans. No evidence that this is him.

by Anonymousreply 92June 6, 2023 3:11 AM

r90 look at r91. The Instagram is Justin Hyman's.

by Anonymousreply 93June 6, 2023 3:12 AM

r92 this is Justin Hyman. He's a Ducati enthusiast and there's a post on his Insta about his older brother dying. It's him, trust us.

by Anonymousreply 94June 6, 2023 3:13 AM

That doesn’t mean that that’s Justin Hyman Bette’s grandson. There are many with that name.

by Anonymousreply 95June 6, 2023 3:13 AM

He doesn’t use his brother’s name. Again, no evidence.

by Anonymousreply 96June 6, 2023 3:14 AM

What is JAH? J for Justin is dead and Justin is posting?

by Anonymousreply 97June 6, 2023 3:14 AM

Well this Justin Hyman had a brother named J Ashley Hyman who was born in 1969. It's him.

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by Anonymousreply 98June 6, 2023 3:15 AM

Jeremy Ashley Hyman was the full name of BD's oldest son.

by Anonymousreply 99June 6, 2023 3:15 AM

Then who the fuck is this one?

by Anonymousreply 100June 6, 2023 3:16 AM

BD has two sons, Justin and Ashley. Are you telling me that had two sons named Justin?!

by Anonymousreply 101June 6, 2023 3:17 AM

BD has two sons, Justin and Ashley. Are you telling me that she has two sons named Justin?!

by Anonymousreply 102June 6, 2023 3:18 AM

This says the two sons are Justin and Jeremy. If Justin is dead, this is Jeremy’s account?

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by Anonymousreply 103June 6, 2023 3:19 AM

Maybe the poster could explain how they came across this Instagram account to begin with.

by Anonymousreply 104June 6, 2023 3:20 AM

BD had two sons - Jeremy Ashley Hyman (who went by Ashley) and Justin Hyman. The Insta is Justin's. Here's a face pic.

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by Anonymousreply 105June 6, 2023 3:20 AM

I see a resemblance but I still don’t see the proof that this is Bette’s son. A strong possibility but still nothing concrete yet. I wonder if Bette’s grandson speaks to his kooky mother.

by Anonymousreply 106June 6, 2023 3:22 AM

If he said his brother who died was Jeremy or Ashley, that would make a stronger case. JAH could easily fit but it still isn’t concrete proof. I wonder why he doesn’t use his name in his profile.

by Anonymousreply 107June 6, 2023 3:24 AM

Can we find Justin anywhere else on social media?

by Anonymousreply 108June 6, 2023 3:24 AM

R106 Get a grip

by Anonymousreply 109June 6, 2023 3:25 AM

r106 you're just hopeless then. This is Justin Hyman, BD's son. He posted his brother's year of birth (1969) in his obituary post. BD's son Jeremy Ashley Hyman was born in 1969. Justin looks a lot like his grandmother. I'm sure BD hates that.

by Anonymousreply 110June 6, 2023 3:25 AM

If that’s Justin, he follows an account called Trump Toilet Paper.

by Anonymousreply 111June 6, 2023 3:26 AM

Okay, with the 1969 thing, it does add up. I’d love to find him on Facebook or Twitter now. Looks like he’s in Virginia. Is that where BD lives?

by Anonymousreply 112June 6, 2023 3:28 AM

So Justin wasn’t the one who co-started in a film with Bette then. That’s the one who died.

by Anonymousreply 113June 6, 2023 3:29 AM

How did you find this Instagram account?

by Anonymousreply 114June 6, 2023 3:29 AM

BD lives in Charlottesville.

by Anonymousreply 115June 6, 2023 3:29 AM

R112 Yes, doofus. Do some searching of your own. BD has lived in VA for years running her horrid ministry.

by Anonymousreply 116June 6, 2023 3:29 AM

Is this him? The one in Free Union, Virginia? Age checks out.

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by Anonymousreply 117June 6, 2023 3:31 AM

Who was the husband that got BD into the Born Again stuff? Justin and his brother’s father was from the first marriage, right? To the English guy?

by Anonymousreply 118June 6, 2023 3:32 AM

R118 BD has only been married once. Use google.

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by Anonymousreply 119June 6, 2023 3:34 AM

BD and her husband were a bunch of lazy grifters who didn't like to work. Bette supported them financially for two decades, and she supported them very comfortably. Bette also supported her mother and sister for their whole lives. She should've been a wealthy woman but she had leeching relatives who constantly sucked away her money.

BD wrote her ridiculous book after Bette had the strokes and wasn't expected to live. It was a money grab because she was afraid her mother wouldn't be around to support her anymore. She's a horrid person.

BTW, Bette's strokes were caused by alcohol withdrawal when she was in the hospital recovering from her mastectomy. They could've been easily prevented if the hospital staff had recognized what was going on.

by Anonymousreply 120June 6, 2023 3:39 AM

Bette was a drunk?

by Anonymousreply 121June 6, 2023 4:13 AM

BD lives in Virginia.

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by Anonymousreply 122June 6, 2023 4:14 AM

Justin posted about his mother.

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by Anonymousreply 123June 6, 2023 4:16 AM

Does BD tax exempt through her “ministry”?

by Anonymousreply 124June 6, 2023 4:16 AM

BD did the sketch on this.

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by Anonymousreply 125June 6, 2023 4:19 AM

I’m surprised Bette referred to her daughter as BD.

by Anonymousreply 126June 6, 2023 4:19 AM

She always said PT instead of BD. lol

by Anonymousreply 127June 6, 2023 4:43 AM

R124 Yes. I also wonder if BD ever ended up getting anything from Bette's estate 'on the side' in any manner, even after being excluded from the will. I know Bette's son Michael was given the means to take care of Bette's special needs child by way of a medical plan Bette had instated years before. Bette's son Michael had publicly stated over the years that he did not agree with BD's book, and that they had not spoken.

by Anonymousreply 128June 6, 2023 10:19 AM

BD was named Barbara Davis Sherry. Her son Ashley was in the TV movie with Bette, Family Reunion.

by Anonymousreply 129June 6, 2023 3:59 PM

Can any of you use Google?

by Anonymousreply 130June 6, 2023 4:05 PM

I always get a cackle out of this.

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by Anonymousreply 131June 6, 2023 5:32 PM

I’m sure people will remember Jan Hooks long after they’ve forgotten Bette Davis.

by Anonymousreply 132June 6, 2023 6:21 PM

Lately every time I see this thread I think this is such a moronic thread. So what if she did? Is it intended to be funny. Is is suppose to make us re-evaluate our opinion of BD? For much of American culture homosexuality was viewed as something very unnatural and a mental illness. It wasn’t until the 80s that those attitudes changed. Faggot has always been a slur but simultaneously all monikers of homosexuals were deem as profane language because all homosexuals were deemed as deviants.

by Anonymousreply 133June 6, 2023 6:45 PM

When Bette updated her autobiography she referred to BD as just Hyman.

by Anonymousreply 134June 6, 2023 6:56 PM

Well, she couldn't have called her Cunt r134

by Anonymousreply 135June 6, 2023 8:44 PM

[quote] When Bette updated her autobiography she referred to BD as just Hyman.

R134 Having concurrent threads on”Hymen” and “Hyman” is confusing.

by Anonymousreply 136June 6, 2023 8:52 PM

In her later years, Bette Davis's social circle had a lot of gay men in it.

by Anonymousreply 137June 6, 2023 8:55 PM

Surprisingly!

by Anonymousreply 138June 7, 2023 12:03 AM
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