FEUD: Nancy Reagan and Barbara Bush

Can someone summarize the article.....DAMN.

They were the Godzilla vs King Kong, the Frazier vs Ali of dueling power bitches.

Talk about a Sophie's Choice.

But Babs for the win.

The only bigger whore as FLOTUS than Melania Trump was Nancy Raygun.

Both of them were horrible.

It's People fucking magazine, R1. Are you illiterate? WTF is wrong with you?

Plus Babs disapproved of Nan's giving out blowjobs like party favors for low-level acting gigs.

Nancy was a big MGM star. They don't get any bigger in classic Hollywood.

Fuck that noise, R7. The only thing classic of Miss Davis are her cock sucking skills.

Why is a People article from April 2019 only now the subject of a thread?

I love that DL is not taking the scrawny devil's side.

Why can't you give me the respect that a Blow Job Queen is entitled to!!!!

I'll side with Barbara Bush.

She's on $1 bill.

[quote]Nancy was a big MGM star. They don't get any bigger in classic Hollywood.

Hardly, r7

Nancy always suspected, probably rightly so, that the old CIA spook George Bush, had something to do with her husband's assasination attempt.

It wasn't George, r14, it was...Jodie.

Old man Bush. Behind both the JFK assassination & Reagan assassination attempt! That some real QAnon thinking.

It's because OP forgot his internet password until his grand-nephew finally came over to reset it for him R9.

Who's your favorite dictator, Hitler or Mussolini 🤔

Two sides of the same corroded coin.

But it's comical these two harpies got to each other. So something bothered Babs' beautiful mind.

I mean the Hinckleys were Bush family friends and John had a cushy "containment"

Barbara was probably a straightforward pain in the ass, while Nancy was probably a passive-aggressive monster.

This classic SNL skit nails it:

I'd rather permanently check myself into the Betty Ford Clinic than have to choose between the Gorgon and the hussy.

[quote]Nancy was a big MGM star. They don't get any bigger in classic Hollywood.

WHAT? "They don't get any bigger?!?!??" What in the fuck? Are you insane? You're seriously saying that Nancy Reagan was the biggest star "in classic Hollywood?"

What drugs did you take and how much did you take? Is there anyone we can call to check on you? She was a b-movie actress who only rose above obscurity by marrying her more famous husband, and even he wasn't "a big star."

You're insane.

OP is full of shit. Nancy was not a Scorpio - she was born July 6, which makes her a Cancer. Everyone should read Al Fanken's accounts of his run-ins with Barbara Bush, and what a Bitch she was when the cameras weren't rolling.

Nancy thought Barbara was an East Coast snob who looked down on everyone else. Barbara thought Nancy was tacky nouveau riche trash. They were both correct. And they were both nuclear cunts.

Barbara Bush came from old money, and could probably trace her roots back to the Mayflower.

Nancy Reagan was the opposite (she married into money) - and felt inferior to Bush.

Babs didn't suck every dick in Hollywood unlike Nancy

So, of course Sarah Paulson will be playing Nancy, but I am still conflicted about Beanie Feldstein for Barbara.

@r28, "Babs didn't suck every dick in Hollywood unlike Nancy"

She wouldn't even suck mine... To which I'm eternally grateful

It's utter nonsense that POTUS and FLOTUS get along with or are friends with VPOTUS and SLOTUS...

Barbara Bush and Nancy Reagan were completely different...as others have said BB was Old Money, WASP, New England preppy transplanted to Texas, raising a large family. You can picture her piling the kids into the back of the station wagon to drive to Maine every summer. Supported her husband's political and diplomatic career

NR was cocktail circuit, lady who lunched...raised in genteel poverty until her mother married a well-off doctor. She had a marginally successful Hollywood career. Married a divorced actor whose heyday was behind him. Schmoozes with old Hollywood and rich cats like Annenbergs and Bloomingdales. Supports her husband's political career. Never the cookie-baking Mom.

Politics drove the Reagans and Bushes together. I remember with Clinton, they made a big deal of the "real friendship" between the Clintons and Gores...Bullshit.

The next Bushes and Cheneys weren't friends. Nor were the Obamas and Bidens, although I can see Michelle Obama being friends with Jill Biden.

Politics brings these couples together.

I went to school and lived in DC during the Reagan and Bush years. the Regans ate off trays in front of the tv in the White House. The Bushes were known to go out to dinner. They were more familiar with DC and NOVA. They helped to popularize a new (then) Italian restaurant in downtown DC, and they frequented a Chinese restaurant in Northern Virginia.

And at the time, no one thought Baby and Nancy were friends. Leaving politics aside, Barbara Bush was more relatable to most people.

Ryan Murphy, I know you're on DL...make this TV show.

Nancy Reagan tried so hard with Don’t Say No, which was ineffective, and never really got any thanks. Even though she played the beautiful, glamorous wife, she was always seen as a spendthrift arriviste.

Barbara, on the other hand, had a monthly vocabulary page in Reader’s Digest and read a few books to school children and was widely applauded as America’s grandmother. She was old money and plain as a post, but didn’t care if it looked like she ordered her dresses from the Vermont Country Store catalogue housedress section.

Because of her less-than-auspicious beginnings, Nancy felt she needed to be surrounded by very wealthy people like the Bloomingdales and the Annenbergs, even though one was trade and the other sprung from the publisher of a jumped-up, bookie newspaper.

Both had what the other didn’t and jealousy is a bitter pill to swallow when you are compelled to interact regularly. With all things considered, Barbara wins by a country mile simply.

Oh come on. Babs was not some beloved figure. It is true that Nancy was seen, correctly, as a stuck up bitch who cared about you only if you were rich or could somehow advance her husband's political career (and even then, you better watch out if you were in that Administration and didn't measure up in any way).

But Babs was old school bitch. Dowdy old money bitch, but just as likely to step over a dying homeless veteran, and never anybody who gave a shit about those who weren't in her set. Her famous "this is working out nicely for them" comment said it all, and to nobody's surprise.

OP I'm Team Cunt

Meryl Streep as Nancy

Glenn Close as Barbara

Maybe it was all simply hagiography that remember from the time of her death but “Barbara Bush America’s Grandmother” yields a plethora of results from Google.

Team Barb

“You can pick up and hug AIDS babies and people who have the HIV virus…there is a need for compassion”.

I thought Nancy was from Philadelphia and her father was a doctor.

Hate them BOTH. Don't ask dumb questions.

I wish Nancita had been alive and Babs was well during the Trump administration. They would have joined cunt forces against that tramp Melania.

Interestingly, both women had the same alma mater, Smith, which when they both went there was considered academically the best women's college in the US.

Why should I waste my beautiful mind on a topic such as this?

Just remembered. There was a leather/BDSM store in lower Manhattan/Greenwich Village in the early 90s. You checked your bag/belongings when you went in. The ticket you received was a piece of cardboard with writing on it. One said "Barbara's Bush."

No one is defending Nancy lol

^ Ok... Nancy could suck the chrome off a Buick. Barbara LOOKED like a Buick

How's that?

No one nailed Nancy as well as Joan Didion.

^ I never realized what a giant bobble-head Nancy was 😳

I’ve always wondered if Barbara Bush has a full grown or shaved bush.

Her multiple prescription pill addictions helped keep her slim 'n trim, r48. I'll link in next post because it's a verboten source, but it's a good summary of Karen Tumulty's book about Nancy. She's an excellent Washington Post journalist, not some tabloid type.

[QUOTE]The former first lady had been taking so many 'uppers and downers' during her term that the White House physician had to inform President Ronald Reagan that his wife had a 'problem.'

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Huge I tell you.

I think they were both used to running the show

This poll is useless without a “neither” to vote for. Or at least Vivian Vance.

@r51, "Nancy Reagan was secretly hooked on pills "

Tell me about it... 🙄

If you want the real scoop on Nancy Reagan, you just have to read her daughter Patti's 'fictional novel' HOMEFRONT from the mid-80s (the one which embarrassed Ron and Nancy). In the book - based on her own life - Patti describes the matriarch of the family as a "pill popping alcoholic who beat her children with hairbrushes and had extramarital affairs on her husband, the President".

This is when Patti became 'estranged' from the family, and didn't make up with Nancy until her deathbed (she had to make sure she was in the will).

I'll take an in-your-face cunt like Nancy over a stealth cunt like Barbara any day.

Mommy's cuntiness was out there from day one, for all the world to see. Underneath all the glamour, her hardscrabble roots were painfully obvious. She was there to kick ass, take names, and avenge her enemies, just like any small town white-trash trailer park queen. Other than her husband, no one was safe from her nastiness, be it her own children and stepchildren, Rosalyn Carter, Raisa Gorbachev, Barbara Bush, or the various members of the Reagan Administration whose lives she made a living hell.

Barbara, in contrast, hid her cuntiness behind the matronly appearance and the genteel New England demeanor. Make no mistake, though; she was every bit the raging cunt that Nancy was. Most of the American public wouldn't have believed it during the Reagan/Bush years, but eventually the truth came out.

Team Bar.

Bar was a bitch. Nancy was a cunt.

Where's the third poll option? I hated these cunts.

Required listening for anyone who knows the Patti Davis/Nancy Reagan story.

Cunt & Cunter

R42, not to split hairs, but in the women's college sphere, Radcliffe, Bryn Mawr and Wellesley have always been considered a cut above Smith.

Not incidentally, I doubt either of these dead mean bitches would have been admitted to Smith if they had been screened by today's hyper-competitive standards.

What is the sound of two twats flapping?

Nancy was a duplicitous deep throated whore.

She also hated Raisa Gorbachev. "Who does that broad think she is?".

R56, the relationship between Patti & her mother warmed up considerably before Nancy’s deathbed; they grew closer following Ronnie’s Alzheimer’s diagnosis. At the time of Nancy’s death, though, Patti & Skipper were said to be estranged.

"Barbara Bush’s 1989 DC AIDS-hospice visit changed the HIV conversation"

A decade too late, scrotum face.

@r64, "She also hated Raisa Gorbachev. "Who does that broad think she is?".

To be honest everyone wanted to punch Raisa, she was the Russian version of Nancy, but oddly she seemed to get along with Babs. Perhaps they bonded over their mutual hate for Nancy 🤔

Nancy and Bar really had nothing to do with each other. They were only in the same room together when it was absolutely necessary, like a White House State Dinner and that sort of thing.

I was always secretly envious of Barbara’s bush.

Nancy was a petty bitch. Barbara kicked her kids off the tennis court so the Secret Service could play. No contest.

They could always work together for a good, cultural cause.

Nancy Fuckin' Reagan?

I get that Nancy had a loathsome personality & checkered past, but - especially for someone who was thought to be the driving force of her husband's hard-right conservate evolution - she doesn't get enough credit here for liberalizing her husband. Mostly in relationship to the then-Soviet Union.

Nancy was supposed to be pretty gay friendly, no? Jerry Zipkin and Rock Hudson were among her closest friends.

Barbara Bush would be a good name for a James Bond girlfriend.

[QUOTE]she doesn't get enough credit here for liberalizing her husband. Mostly in relationship to the then-Soviet Union.

Hmm, tell us more, sir ...😒

I liked them both in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane.

R75 - Nancy Reagan may have had gay friends, but I remember Barbara doing this . . .

And there's this . . .

[quote] I wish Nancita had been alive and Babs was well during the Trump administration. They would have joined cunt forces against that tramp Melania.

I wonder.

The Reagan’s seem exactly the type to go along with the Trump nightmare.

Gasoline + match for the both of them

Bar Bush was also very pro planned parenthood from way back in the day. They raised money for it and it was one of her pet causes. Her husband sis too until he felt he had to shut up if he was going to run on a conservative ticket. Bar just ignored him and kept doing her thing with PP. She had balls. Team Bar.

R74, Rock Hudson was not a close friend, but designer James Galanos and decorator Ted Graber were.

[quote]She had balls.

Pics please.

She had spunk. Lots of it.

OP- Barbara Bush was not from New England. She grew up in Rye , New York.

Two very different women. One a classic social climber and the other couldn’t care less about that but was every bit the upper middle class WASP (from Westchester if you call that New England). One who schemes to get posh and the other the stern matriarch who couldn’t really care less about posh even though most of her life was.

I don’t think either were very cozy but Bush was closer to a good woman in the classic sense of her generation. Nancy was more courtesan, and not a nice one like Mrs O was.

Bar was everything Nancy wanted to be.

Nancy was everything Bar was glad she wasn't.

Let's not forget this;

Babs was very masculine. I always assumed she was a closeted lesbian. Nancy, on the other hand, didn't strike me as a sexual woman at all, but simply a woman who knew how to use sex for her own wily purposes.

Hmph... lace-curtain Irish:

"Anne Frances Robbins was born on July 6, 1921, at Sloane Hospital for Women in Uptown Manhattan. She gave her birth date as July 6, 1923, a date cited through most of her life. She was of English descent. She was the only child of Kenneth Seymour Robbins (1892–1972), a farmer turned car salesman, and his actress wife, Edith Prescott Luckett (1888–1987).

Robbins lived her first two years in Flushing, Queens, a neighborhood of New York City, in a two-story house on Roosevelt Avenue between 149th and 150th Streets. Her parents separated soon after her birth and were divorced in 1928. After their separation, her mother traveled the country to pursue acting jobs and Robbins was raised in Bethesda, Maryland, for six years by her aunt, Virginia Luckett, and uncle, Audley Gailbraith.

In 1929, her mother married Loyal Edward Davis (1896–1982), a prominent conservative neurosurgeon who moved the family to Chicago. He formally adopted her in 1938, and she would always refer to him as her father. At the time of the adoption, her name was legally changed to Nancy Davis.

She attended the Girls' Latin School of Chicago (describing herself as an average student), from 1929, until she graduated in 1939, and later attended Smith College in Massachusetts, where she majored in English and drama, graduating in 1943."

Longevity runs in her family.

Her mother died at 99.

Her father died at 80 (in 1972 (at a time when hitting your 50s and 60s was an accomplishment).

I think you understate the longevity of those adults living in 1972, R92.

Nancy was hardly a major star in Hollywood. A barely attractive “actress” with a fivehead to rival JVDB or Rihanna’s and piano legs. People who think she was, I hate to break it to you, she was a nothing. Marriage to Ronnie lifted her status somewhat, but not by much.

Frank Sinatra used to call Nancita a “dope with fat ankles,” until he suddenly decided to support Reagan in 1970. Then she became “Nancy With the Reagan Face” and he would fuck her at the White House.

R93- Exactly.

1972 is NOT 1872.

R82 - Her husband earned the nickname "Rubbers" in Texas for his support of PP.

So sick and sad how much our society has regressed in some respects.

I don't see (or recall) much evidence of a "feud.".

There are plenty of people I hate, dislike, disagree with vehemently on many issues, have absolutely no respect for...I just don't knowingly criss paths with them. If we end up 8n the same place and same time I give the.m8nimum acknowledge and don't get into a hair-ripping, titty-pulling situation like some high eyebrowed bitch in a film noir.

R93 R96 Americans born in 1892, like Nancy's father, had an average life expectancy of 46.3 years.

You're welcome.

R5, in 1983, Jeff Goldblum's character in The Big Chill worked for People as a writer and said he tried not to write things that take no longer to read than a person needs for an average crap.

1983.

Sometimes SNL just nails it.

The writers write the sketch that everyone is thinking.

This is one of those times.

Sad that both actors are gone now.

Welcome to the thread, R101.

R22 = Bar

R101 = Nancy

I remember that r100, and People actually used to have "long" articles back then.

Richard Nixon said that Barbara Bush was "mean." I read that in Kitty Kelley's book about the Bush family.

I'd say Nancy was worse, if I had to choose. But I didn't admire or like either one of them.

George the 1st had a mistress named Jennifer that traveled with him to Japan. Yes, *that* Japan trip. The trip where he vomited on the lap of Japan's Prime Minister.

R105 did Kelley write the tell-all on Nancy too?

Yes Kelley also wrote the Nancy Reagan book - the one that insinuated that she & Sinatra were fucking in the White House.

And she also mentioned Nancy striking daughter Patti with a hair brush - not to mention Nancy's obsession with astrology and how that sometimes dictated White House decisions.

Her Bush book was a little more "serious" because it dealt with a lot of the Bush family history - although there are certainly enjoyable anecdotes about Barbara.

R94, Ronnie was planning to propose to another woman when Nancy informed him that Patti was in the oven.

Barbara Bush and her husband were moderate..back when that was acceptable for the GOP. She supported gay rights and abortion.

I have friends in Maine who knew her and say she was a typical old money Yankee bitch…but she gave a lot of time and financial support to good causes there so everyone forgave her for being a bit of a cunt. My friend is a doctor who worked at a hospital she supported. Think a wing is named after her there. He said everyone quaked when she visited, but she wasn’t a slacker. Put in the hours, visited patients and was their best fundraiser.

I’m team Bar. Nancy was just a flat out cunt who didn’t do anything to support anyone but herself. Yeah, she had a few gay friends but never lifted a finger to support the community. It was her husband who refused to utter the word AIDS.

Are these two old broads at it again?

R109 Barbara might have been a bitch, but her actions spoke louder than her words.

[QUOTE]I have friends in Maine who knew her and say she was a typical old money Yankee bitch…

Was she a bitch for good reason or just had a generally mean and snappy demeanor and came down on people for ridiculous or non-existent reasons? When she dismissed Al Franken he'd been goading her doing imitations of her son. I like Al, but can't blame her. Can't blame her for her dislike of Nancy.

Her aura, bearing and appearance certainly were intimidating, but she sounds like a "What you see is what you get" type who didn't leave people guessing. Forthright.

R112 I think Babs just called it as she saw it.

It may be hard to believe now, R109, but there was a time, pre-Roe, when abortion was not a partisan issue. Many Democrats, especially Catholics, were anti-abortion, while many Republicans were in favor of liberalizing abortion rights. In his first term, arch-conservative California Governor Ronald Reagan signed into law the nation’s most liberalized abortion law in the country.

Kelly's books on Nancy Reagan was hilarious. I enjoyed every page. Her 'Bush' book wasn't as humorous, but it was interesting (same with 'The Royals'). Her 'Oprah' book was a snoozefest.

I wonder why she hasn't done more books since 'Oprah' ? I know she had researched Johnny Carson while he was alive, planning to write a book on him. When he died, she decided not continue with the project.

Kelley is in her 80s. She may not feel up to it. The Nancy book was great. I read it a couple of times. I believe it's through the book she became known as the BJ Queen for the description of a road trip from LA to AZ. Peter Lawford and another actor switched driving duties while Nance rode shotgun performing services. She interviewed a movie executive's assistant (I can't recall the name, but he was well-known) who said there would always be a used condom in the waste paper basket after her visits.

[quote] "I love that DL is not taking the scrawny devil's side."

Same. But DL usually DOES side with the thinner one in any given situation. Despite being anything but thin ourselves. Wishful thinking? Self-loathing? So I also applaud the general consensus. And fuck Nancy Reagan. She died on my 36th birthday.

Interesting comments that overwhelmingly favor Barbara.

I've always thought Barbara was an unkept bitch and always admired Nancy's style. I may be the lone commenter who would side with Nancy. The Bushes would have been NOTHING without the Reagans.

Choose: The Blow Witch or Leviathan!!!

R104 or they took longer dumps.

DLers may not like it, but it is Nancy who will be the one who goes down in history as one of the (few) consequential First Ladies.

Also, because I am trying to ruthlessly catch myself judging other people and then *stop it*, I am reminded of….who the fuck am I to judge Babs cuntiness anyway? She had a hard life kids. Lost a baby to cancer. Had a husband having an affair in public with his assistant. Just those two alone cause massive trauma and potential scars. Who am I to judge her?

Plus the world is sooooo much more colorful with these cranky old battle axes like Babs. She probably had a lot of unhealed trauma that came out as sarcasm which is masked rage. I suspect she had raw wounds that were never expressed, ergo queen of cuntiness. But hey, like we’ve all said, she showed up where it counts in most ways.

Nancy was clearly a narcissist.

[QUOTE]but it is Nancy who will be the one who goes down in history as one of the (few) consequential First Ladies.

How so?

I will never forget that look Nancy gave Ronnie's (adopted) son Michael at the funeral.

Nancy and Patti and Ron Jr are throwing themselves on the casket and Michael shows up and Nancy turns and gives him this 'what the fuck are you doing here?' look; as if she were saying, "WHO are you?"

What a bitch.

R115, This book by Carson’s longtime lawyer and friend Henry Bushkin, is filled with lots of juicy dish.

There was never a feud. They were just two very different types of broads who had absolutely nothing in common. I wouldn't doubt that Barbara looked at Nancy as show business trash, and I imagine Nancy was jealous of Barbara's pedigree and wealth. The Reagans were not the sort of people the Bush's would have had any desire to be friends with.

The Reagans relied on friends for their very existence after they left the White House. A group of friends had to buy them that beautiful house they lived in for the rest of their lives located in a prime Bel Air neighborhood right behind the Chartwell/Kirkeby mansion (the Beverly Hillbillies mansion). By the time they left the White House Reagan was entering senility (later alzheimer's{ so years of making millions doing speaking engagements was not in the cards. He made $2 million for a speech he did in Japan not long after they left Washington and got hell for it. And 8 years of government service probably left them cash poor. It takes a constant infusion off big money or a lot of charity to live the way they lived.

Every time there was a meeting with her staff to plan a state dinner, the first thing Nancy would do was cross off George and Barbara’s names from the guest list.

[quote]DLers may not like it, but it is Nancy who will be the one who goes down in history as one of the (few) consequential First Ladies.

Consequential how?

Not that I think Babs Bush was more consequential, nor that any First Lady has any duty to consequence. "Wife of" isn't a position imbued with much expectation to my mind: keep your nose clean, stay somewhat busy at something, and smile and wave and shake hands and called upon. That's about it and really it shouldn't be any more than that.

Not everyone is a sort of outwardly tireless President's ambassador to his own people as Eleanor Roosevelt was. Not everyone has a not-too-controversial cause célebre like Lady Bird Johnson had for conservation and preservation programs that have a very long reach still.

I hate the fussing over first ladies as though there is a competition. They provide occasional light fodder for the media and not much else in most cases, and no more.

[quote] Every time there was a meeting with her staff to plan a state dinner, the first thing Nancy would do was cross off George and Barbara’s names from the guest list.

Proof? I don't believe that for a second.

R116- I thought Peter Lawford was a HOMO

R33- For all that Babs was NO Eleanor Roosevelt.

After eight years of Nancy and her social-climbing phoniness, I think the public welcomed Barbara and her no-nonsense / no-frills personality in the WH.

[quote] Consequential how?

One, she was among the most powerful First Ladies in history. Two, to the extent that Ronnie continues to get credit by historians - of all stripes - for his role in ending the Cold War, Nancy will get credit for pushing her husband to work with Gorbachev.

R129, That has been repeated numerous times in print and in interviews by biographers Kitty Kelley and Susan Page, you illiterate cunt.

[quote] From my understanding Ron and George got along fine.

Both twits, so hardly surprising.

[QUOTE]One, she was among the most powerful First Ladies in history.

How so? Because she consulted with an astrologer to find the most fortuitous times to schedule Ronnie's meetings...

[QUOTE]Nancy will get credit for pushing her husband to work with Gorbachev.

Thank goodness she was around to override the National Security Council's advice! Too bad her efforts didn't stop the Iran Contra affair, though.

Speaking of Gorbachev -- Nancy vs. Raise. Now, that was a feud. MEOW!

^Raisa, not Raise

R136, if you read any account of the Reagan administration, you will see that Nancy was the unofficial head of personnel.

The AP headline is one for the ages.

R133 After a history of well-respected First Ladies, no matter the public opinions of their spouse, Nancy Reagan went down in history as one of the most ridiculed First Ladies in history. She brought it on herself, and her son's and daughter's very public estrangement from her certainly didn't help. She was rivaled 30 years later by Melania.

R140, I know you’re invested in your cartoonish caricature of Nancy Reagan, but it just doesn’t comport with the burgeoning historical record. And trust me, I’m no Reagan acolyte.

Contemporaneous accounts by partisans are not always reliable. See Biden, senility.

Nancy was a spendthrift and kept the White House "in style."

Barbara brought back "old fashioned values" in a very progressive way.

[quote]Richard Nixon said that Barbara Bush was "mean." I read that in Kitty Kelley's book about the Bush family.

On the secret tapes, he said of her (when her husband was head of the CIA), "Now there's a woman who knows how to hate." I think that always increased my respect for her.

George HW Bush's mother once told an interviewer she was afraid of Barbara Bush.

[quote] Not that I think Babs Bush was more consequential, nor that any First Lady has any duty to consequence.

A lot you know!

Maybe Barbara Bush was such a BITCH because when your looks are gone ( she never had looks to begin with) sometimes the only power you have is being a BITCH.

Speaking of the Wilsons, I wonder if Reagan’s presidency will undergo the same downward reassessment of historians as befell Wilson. Until recent decades, Wilson was a consensus top five president in presidential rankings.

Here’s a little story that should make you sigh About two unhappy dames. Let us call them Nancy X and Barbara Y, Which are not their real names!

Now Barbara.had the class, but Nancy had the ass, Which Barbara used to envy so much. But Barbara had security, with no sign of impurity, Which made our Nancy just a such and such.

Given their advantages, which they didn’t earn, It’s amazing how they got so far. With latitude and attitude, and money to burn, Their hearts got stuck in self-centered tar.

Betty & Laura seem to be the only Republican First Ladies in my long lifetime who have escaped much derision.

R147 but you were hot once Vera! You can't understand. And your husband had it comin'!

R150 I think because Betty was vulnerably honest about her flaws and Laura is really a class act.

Wasn't Betty criticized for being too outspoken?

^ By republicans, not democrats.

R141 Sorry, Patti. I know you publicly made up with Mom on her deathbed (to make sure you were included in the will), but we can't forget how you were involved in ridiculing your mother in public, which has also gone on historical record.

You'd never see Ron and Nancy laugh and look at each other like George and Barbara did.

Especially IN PUBLIC

How come the Bushes (George and Babs) didn't just name their son Junior, IE, exactly the same name. Why did they leave out the "Herbert"?

The reek of Barbara's crotch rot probably offended Nancy.

Maybe the same reason, R157, Ronald Wilson Reagan named his son Ronald Prescott Reagan. Interestingly, the father of George Herbert Walker Bush was named Prescott.

Some of you are holding Bar’s cuntitude against her, which surprises me.

It is a feature, not a bug.

R108, how Stephanie Forrester of her.

I can't find that amusingly bitchy quote Barbara made about turning Nancy's beauty room into her office. Anyone know it?

They were both cunts.

And they would have loved DL.