Canada Is Offering to Euthanize People Afraid of Becoming Homeless

Woman with disabilities nears medically assisted death after futile bid for affordable housing

Christine Gauthier rips Canadian government for offering to euthanize her

I’m in.

How long before the US joins?

Will many in Nunavut take advantage of this?

It's a WIN-WIN!

Canada is insanely dystopian

I’m not sure how it got to this point

We should get ours to drive through GOP operatives’ front windows during the night.

I think it’s tremendous!

It’s like Tavistock Clinic, but for death!

Only MAGAT NAZIs would support this.

What does the NAZI possess?

Nazis support austerity and only want elites or elite simps to roam the earth. Those who need help deserve to die as they are filth in their eyes.

This thread ties in nicely with what was decided over on the Jordan Neely threads

Which was, R14?

Jesus Christ. That is truly, truly fucked up!

HA! I just misread R8: drive-through euthanasia.

You pull up, somebody comes to the window, takes aim, blows you away, and then new guy has to drive your car forward so the next soylent-to-be can pull up.

I find this to be an absurdly permanent solution to what is usually a temporary problem. I am ashamed to be a human after reading this.

Euthanasia for seriously ill people is a right I'd defend. But yes, this should not be among the situations in which it is offered.

However....since we don't seem to be able to provide people with decent living environments, or a way to care for themselves, it's not a surprise this is becoming somewhat of a Hunger Games scenario.

This is blowing my mind. What a nightmare. This is very, very upsetting.

Um, Bill Gates can you stop trying to save the Africans for five seconds and come attend to this?

Where is the humanity?!

Capitalism death count

Canada, that is an abomination of an idea.

[quote] I find this to be an absurdly permanent solution to what is usually a temporary problem.

Stage 4 cancer?

We're finally reaching the stage of societal decay where Futurama predictions are coming true as well as the Simpsons ones

Who is going to save Canadians?

Why not just use a shotgun on the steps of their capitol, eh?

R15, that homeless people would do the world a favor by un-aliving themselves

In many big cities outside of America you won't see any homeless or tent cities.

The homelessness in US and Canada is a policy choice based in nazism.

They can't outright kill you in these modern times, but will implement austerity policies to see who can survive. Those who can't are essentially victims of the nazis, and they will be ready with the kill-shot when you're ready. #freedumb

Support of this is support of nazism.

Euthanasia.

More euthanasia.

She has every right to make this choice. It's just a sad statement that she wants to because she cannot find housing. But the arguments should not be against medically assisted suicide, it should be why there is such a lack of affordable housing.

She sounds like a nightmare, though.

R31 Yeah, obviously.

Euthanasia should've always been freely available to all. If someone wants to exit this world, that's their choice. We will never have it in America because Republicans are the political party of Jesus, and Democrats won't touch the issue because their voters are childlike retards too.

The guy at OP is stunt queening to try and get more money in his monthly check.

The woman in the second story has disability that causes her to be sensitive to, “cigarette smoke, laundry chemicals, and air fresheners. She is at risk of anaphylactic shock and so has EpiPens at all times in case she has a life-threatening allergic attack.”

The disabled woman veteran is agitating for money to build a ramp and bemoans not having the help she needs yet was able to afford to travel to Brazil for the Paralympics just a few years before.

All of these cases are stunt queens and attention whores using the media to drum up sympathy and none have been euthanized. Not one single case.

Good idea !

R29/R30, yutes.

I personally support the concept of medically-assisted suicide in cases of extremely painful, fatal, incurable diseases. Regardless of religious teaching, nobody should deal with absolute suffering. It is unfair to the person, the person's family, and medical science to turn them into basically a lab experiment for how long they can make them live. Canada may have gone too far with it, but is it causing grief, is it truly making a ruckus with society? I really don't think it is afaik. Perhaps time will tell, but as far it is known, when someone's dead, they're no longer in pain. And at least we can all move on with that kind of thing.

Personally, I've lost way too many loved ones at my age and from my experiences, have been trying to make it past such grief. Enjoying life is important, not prolonging suffering.

Animals are routinely put down when they can’t be rehabilitated. Wild animals in proximity to humans are also terminated. It’s not humane to let crazy people run amok and shit in the streets.

Found the Nazi

[quote]I personally support the concept of medically-assisted suicide in cases of extremely painful, fatal, incurable diseases.

Why the qualifications? How about bodily autonomy, freedom of choice? Their reason is nobody's business.

This isn't about the "stunt queens," R35. It's about the concept that a government would even offer SUICIDE as a rational solution to financial hardship in the first place.

This is the most dystopian thing I've heard...and that's saying a lot.

R35, only right-wing morons use the term, stunt-queen.

R42, that’s not what actually happened in the first two cases. They applied to the euthanasia program themselves, then went to the media to talk about being desperate.

The third case the woman was suggested the program sarcastically by a worker who was then fired for even daring to suggest such a thing, sarcastically.

A discussion of these people deserving more government assistance is fine, but none of these cases are actually cases of the government saying that people should be killed because they can’t afford x,y, or z.

There is a huge difference between incompetent bureaucrats offering INFORMATION about medical assistance in dying, and two medical professionals assessing the patient and approving the application, which must be signed by two independent witnesses, and then actually administering the drugs that end the patient's life. The Canadian media, especially the right and center-right, have successfully launched an hysterical anti-MAID campaign based on half-assed clickbait reporting; it's the equivalent of saying abortion should be illegal because a woman who did not want an abortion was offered information about how she could get one. There are many safeguards (listed at the link) in place for a procedure that over 30,000 people have chosen to use to end their own suffering. Would the "journalists" or anti-MAID activists please take the time to document how any of these 30,000 + patients were given medical assistance in dying in a way that violated their wishes and breached the safeguards in place?

I would sign up for this or at least seriously consider it. I want to die every day over financial stress but the pain and terror of it scares me too much. I’d let a doctor take me out for sure.

I thought Canada would have housing for people like this as it's considered rather socialist and held up as some sort of utopia. This sounds very third reich-ish.

I got the impression that she does have housing, but she wants housing with cleaner air, like she finds at hotels (?!). I didn’t get a sense one way or the other of whether or not her current housing if fully wheelchair accessible.

But $1,100 a month to live on for someone in a wheelchair seems very low.

well

Isn’t Canada the country where you can get an abortion in the 8th month of pregnancy, no questions asked? I’m surprised they banned guns. It sounds like a free for all.

r51 guns are not banned in Canada

How would you ban guns in a country with so many moose?

Has she considered an air filter?

[quote] guns are not banned in Canada

They will be soon.

[quote]Only MAGAT NAZIs would support this.

Wrong. Progressives embrace Death With Dignity. I for instance don't want bother my family, especially daughter and grandkids so if if I get to s place where I'm not able to get around or in constant pain, I'm out. My body, my choice.

Euthanasia should've always been freely available to all. If someone wants to exit this world, that's their choice.

R56 you'd opt for euthanasia if you became homeless?

R56, dear, the elites have you so well programmed that at this point that you can only relate to stories like this through the liberal individualist mindset where you (1) immediately making it all about you and (2) by ignoring the real issue here of widespread human homelessness and regurgitating ye old elite's issue of bodily autonomy! You even mentioned the slogan. Less thinking when you can just repeat a slogan!

You may not be a Nazi, but you are very much an enabler of nazism.

Textbook example of the pathological thinking from so-called liberals that enables so much harm caused to so so many. That is anything but progressive. The issue is widespread human homelessness in a developed nation... why it exists and what to do about it. Humans are great. We want more of them and better quality humans. You've taken the elites mindset which looks at humans, as scum, yourself included.

Elites don't want to address that issue, nazis want a world without people unlike them, including you. You don't want homelessness but you can't do anything about it so you have submitted to their framing instead which only exists because they can't do to the undesirables like they did in the 1940s. So they've opted to ruin society for the weak, and and make pawns out of those who can bear it, like you.

It's not that deep, R59. R56 can't read and thought we were talking about euthanasia in general, not as a solution for the homelessness problem.

Futurama (from the same creator of The Simpsons) predicted this.

r58 I'm not r56 but, I honestly would opt for euthanasia now if it were available to me. If someone wants to check out cleanly and with dignity, they should be permitted to do so.

R41 Then they can buy a rope or sleeping pills and do it themselves,

I’m pro-medically assisted suicide when a long death is inevitable.

But other than that, suicide for reasons like this is not morally acceptable.

The government should not be helping people commit suicide under these circumstances. That opens a can of warms.

So a teenager is kicked out for being gay, which is a huge issue. Is the government going to help them kill themselves too?

The rhetoric around the homeless is becoming really dangerous.

[quote]But other than that, suicide for reasons like this is not morally acceptable.

On what grounds is it not morally acceptable for the government to respect a person's right to bodily autonomy in all aspects of their life, r63? It's far safer for something like this to be done under the supervision of a licensed physician. If someone is suffering, what is morally wrong about respecting their wishes for death? It seems morally wrong to allow them to suffer because we disagree with their choice. It also seems morally wrong to suggest they choose methods that have high failure rates and can leave them scarred for life.

^ I agree that the government shouldn't be suggesting this as a "solution" to homelessness. It should only ever be brought up by the person themselves. The government "suggesting" it as an option is weird and fucked up.

R65 they're homeless, not terminally ill.

They're suffering because we live in a ruthless, survival-of-the-fittest society that decrees that the sick, mentally ill, drug addicted and anyone else who cannot work a 40 week does not deserve to be housed.

That's the "morally wrong" part.

r67 I already conceded that the government shouldn't be suggesting medically assisted suicide for people for any reason. But, if someone chooses that for themselves unprompted because they are miserable, I think it's morally wrong to force them to use more dangerous methods of suicide that may fail and cause them more harm. If someone suffering - whether that suffering is physical, mental, or emotional - wants to die, I don't think it's morally wrong to help them do so peacefully and painlessly.

[quote] Canada is insanely dystopian. I’m not sure how it got to this point

Bit by bit like an untreated malignant tumor

I believe in medically assisted euthanasia for terminal illness but helping people die that are deemed unworthy or undesirable by society brings back thoughts of Aushwitz and is very dangerous.

I made a little bet with myself before opening the link at R69 and I won it 😏

Sweet Jesus. Just when I think I’ve heard it all, humanity manages to astound me once more. Someone causing inconvenience for you? Rather than sort the issue just invite them to kill themselves (literally).

Canada is a shithole country.

They need mobile euthanasia units. They’d make a killing.

I agree, R74. There are several people to whom I'd be glad to dispatch the truck. I'll even pay for it. "Surprise! It's a birthday gift from an anonymous friend!"

[quote] "Only MAGAT NAZIs would support this."

But never for themselves, R11.

R59 Thank you! You wrote what I was thinking. It's truly astounding that we are doing the bidding of the ruling class by thinking we are so progressive for choosing euthanasia due to homelessness. It's incredible that people can't look past their own nose and not understand how profoundly fucked up it is.

Wax my balls or be euthanized!

[quote] Only MAGAT NAZIs would support this.

and progressive Canadian governments

I put myself on the list. The power keeps cutting out here and I'm basically sick of it.

Where can I sign up?

This is not a reason to euthanize someone. Wtf

Next time I tell someone to die in a grease fire they may actually do it.

Whoever is responsible for this should be removed from their position and be blacklisted for any job in the public sector.

God, this story is GRIM.

Whomever!

[quote] A disabled person wanted a slope to her home but in Canada they could not afford to do that

[italic][bold]What?[/bold][/italic]

Aren't there assistance programs in Canada to assist with this kind of thing?

[quote]Only MAGAT NAZIs would support this.

And DL posters

I believe this could be an alternative to Medicare, especially when people cannot afford to live in society. We can only work at WalMart for so long.

Canuck here-My 86 year old Aunt was diagnosed with Stage 4 liver cancer on January 5th last year. She was offered and opted for an assisted death which was carried out January 17th. Losing her broke my heart but I was grateful she wasn't forced to suffer and linger. My 67 year old sister found out she has Parkinson's about the same time and I'm glad she can dictate when she's had enough. I think we're further ahead on euthanasia up here in Canada because the evangelicals have no power up here-thank goodness.

R91 A terminally ill 86 year-old should be able to choose euthanasia. Offering to euthanize a young woman with multiple chemical sensitivities because she wanted accommodations to her home to keep her health stable is as dystopian a scenario as an AI-pocalypse undertaken by psychopathic chatbots.

R91 those are actually reasons. Not being able to afford a ramp is not a reason to kill someone.

r93 Death is a choice that all people should be free to make. Just because it is not for you, please don't judge what you think is right and mandatory for others.

R94 I never said that.

Soylent Green is people.

Something tells me the media here, and possibly the lady herself, are conflating the issue of homelessness with the issue of assisted death for a terminal illness. Or not telling the whole story. Like the homeless issue is a byproduct of a mental illness that has been untreatable. And if the lady was truly offered euthanasia as an option to end her homelessness, I’d question the morals and professionalism of the people working with her.

Oh for the love of Christ, none of these people were euthanized, none of them will be euthanized.

The guy at OP found some Freedom Convoy kook with a medical license to sign off so he’ll get news attention to own the libs.

Then I feel like we owe it to him, R98, to help see him through his plans. Own us real good!

The woman in the article at R1 has Multiple Chemical Sensitivity or MCS. Well it's only a matter of time until she develops Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and has Brain Fog. Perhaps all of her made up conditions will go away if someone would just donate some gender neutral clothing.

What's a slope? Do you mean a wheelchair ramp?

R100 Some day you're going to become ill with something miserable and I'll laugh and say it's all in your head.

R100, i put it a way that R102 did not:

[quote] You know, someday doctor Budd, you're going to be on the other side of the table, and as angry as I am and as angry as I always will be, I still wish you a better doctor than you were to me.

R102/103 At some point, it became part of the DL brand of 'humor' to mock people who have severe chronic illnesses. It's really bizarre. I feel like it traces back to Bravo's 'Yolanda is faking Lyme disease' and 'Vicki's boyfriend is faking cancer' storylines, which seem to have convinced healthy people that making fun of sick people and denying they are ill is both funny and righteous.

R103, I am not sure what the spirit of your post is, but taken sincerely, it's right. That episode of the Golden Girls was written because the show creator had chronic fatigue and was treated that way by her doctors, and 40 years later, people like R100 still amuse themselves by acting like the doctors in the show. It's pretty fucked up.

I was so sick for years beginning in my early 30s. Doctors tested me for ALS, MS, etc., and said something was wrong with my CNS but couldn't figure out what. It took five years to diagnose late disseminated Lyme infection. While I was being treated for that, I was diagnosed by MCAS. The Lyme treatment cured all the neuro issues. I'll have to take lots of anti-allergy drugs for the rest of my life because of the MCAS, and that was most likely catalyzed by the Lyme infection. Many 'long COVID' cases have the same symptom profile.

Now, it's known that certain infections can trigger immune system dysfunctions. Epstein-Barr is definitively associated with and at some point it likely will be proven to cause a lot of cases of multiple sclerosis, chronic fatigue syndrome (now called myalgic encephalitis), lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, celiac disease and irritable bowel syndrome. Lyme is often misdiagnosed as one of these before the infection is finally detected.

It's bizarre that since we were all scared out of our minds from COVID and cooped up like horror movie characters hiding from a killer for a year, everyone is sympathetic about long COVID. And when someone says "I have cancer," it's immediate and total sympathy as long as you're not a Bravo reality show actor. And when someone says "I have MS" or "I have Parkinson's," cue the sympathy.

But if someone is in agony or even disabled by certain other diseases, assholes say "all of her made up conditions will go away if someone would just donate some gender neutral clothing." And the real horror is that some of those assholes are doctors.

R99 is the only true humanitarian here.

R104, have you met us here at the DL, dear?

Someone dies and we want to know two things, what was on his iPod and can we have his stuff. That's the Datalounge.

Instant sympathy for vague chronic illnesses? Not too fucking likely but we might crack some pretty funny jokes. We are not an online support group. We don't serve that purpose and we don't meet those needs. If that's what you want from us, I'm afraid that you'll be very disappointed. There are online groups specifically targeting people with various illnesses (real and imagined).

One thing you fail to acknowledge is that people often do fake chronic illness. Sometimes it is just in a patient's head.

Has the lady considered dying her hair blonde?

^^ Honey… you dye fabric. You color hair.

Uhh Canada. Well those protestants love their practicality. It's a weird place Canada. From what I have seen Most Canadians want to move to Mexico or have moved to Mexico. And while there They are worse than Americans taking over whole beach towns and listening to nostalgia based 60's rock grey haired bands. Fat and yelling to the help for more beer and Tacos. I'd get out of Canada any way I could too.

Awesome! I absolutely support euthanasia and have developed a philosophical framework around levels of “rejection” of this tainted and polluted creation we inhabit. I won’t ever be a slave for some billionaire fuck. I’ll eventually spite Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and their heirs by depriving them of my bloodline’s allegiance and our labor. This economy needs to burn. Financially, I’m less than garbage of course. But it makes me feel better that I can fight back by my own willpower and put the spirit of my seething hatred out into the universe 😊

R106 is one of those “I speak for Datalogue and you don’t” types.

This is an utter monstrosity, and an example of how political elites have decided that performing their duties of stewardship for society isn't worth the effort, when they can make enormous profits by driving us into a new dark age of technology-driven feudalism. So, they provide millions in corporate welfare to the wealthy and condemn the poor and dispossessed to either desperately cling to a less than precarious subsistence, or else be eliminated... Who would have said that Soylent Green was not a mere case of dystopian science fiction/horror, but a very possible reality?

I hope that there are extremely serious consequences for Trudeau and his nefarious cabal, but all of us know that all other powerful parties are part of the same corrupt structure and will only keep driving these nightmarish horrors forward. And what shocks me the most is to read that there are people willing to rationalize this disgusting act of wicked depravity as an effective solution to a problem with which our corporate overlords don't want to deal. Are you mentally ill? This is just grotesque!

How depressing it is to see that society is truly collapsing, and most people are happy to participate in their own destruction. 😭

There’s little left in this world besides profit and hatred. Blind hope in the future is rarely enough to pay poor people’s bills, and ALL PEOPLE deserve agency over their own bodies. It’s our only true power after the rich take literally everything else from us. Let the capitalists stay here and consume each other in search of eternal growth.