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Beyonce and Jay-Z buy $200 MILLION home!!!

Jay-Z and Beyonce have just snagged one of the greatest architectural masterpieces in the country ... a 30,000 square foot home in the prime area of Malibu ... and they paid a King's ransom.

Real estate sources tell TMZ ... the couple paid $200 million for the property, making it the most expensive home ever sold in the entire state of California ... eclipsing the previous record of $177 million. It's also the second most expensive real estate deal in the country -- the top being $238 million for an NYC apartment.

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by Anonymousreply 282June 11, 2023 1:16 PM

Very concretey.

by Anonymousreply 1May 19, 2023 9:31 PM

Looks like a cult compound.

by Anonymousreply 2May 19, 2023 9:33 PM

$200 million and you still look into your neighbor's windows 🙄

by Anonymousreply 3May 19, 2023 9:33 PM

Malibu's latest resort... Club Bey

by Anonymousreply 4May 19, 2023 9:35 PM

You'll find this in the dictionary under "obscene."

by Anonymousreply 5May 19, 2023 9:36 PM

Ha! They could of snagged this single-wide in Paradise Cove for $4 million

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by Anonymousreply 6May 19, 2023 9:39 PM

I hope it falls into the sea.

Bye bye, $200,000,000!!!!

Oh, and by the way? It looks like CRAP.

by Anonymousreply 7May 19, 2023 9:42 PM

R7 what horrible thing to wish on two great philanthropists and America’s Queen.

by Anonymousreply 8May 19, 2023 9:44 PM

200 million for a bunch of white boxes? Hideous. LOL @ R8. Queen of the Kweens.

by Anonymousreply 9May 19, 2023 9:48 PM

OP, it is customer to begin a real estate thread title with "Tasteful Friends..."

by Anonymousreply 10May 19, 2023 9:57 PM


by Anonymousreply 11May 19, 2023 9:57 PM

We're going to Hot Sam after we visit Helen Gallagher.

by Anonymousreply 12May 19, 2023 10:00 PM

It looks like a luxury hotel/resort not a private house.

by Anonymousreply 13May 19, 2023 10:03 PM

[quote]the top being $238 million for an NYC apartment.

That was for a studio in the meatpacking district.

by Anonymousreply 14May 19, 2023 10:05 PM

Looks like a bus station.

by Anonymousreply 15May 19, 2023 10:08 PM

Nobody needs that! Ego run rampant. It should be given to a church!

by Anonymousreply 16May 19, 2023 10:09 PM

[quote] could of

R6. I could have said "Oh, dear!"

by Anonymousreply 17May 19, 2023 10:13 PM

It’s really not very interesting…and I find that interesting.

by Anonymousreply 18May 19, 2023 10:19 PM

THAT is an "architectural masterpiece"??? Architectural masterpiece my ass, its ugly as fuck

As R15 said it looks like a bus station, and not a very nice one either. Or a factory

by Anonymousreply 19May 19, 2023 10:20 PM

R18, I agree. With all of the charming properties near there I'm not sure why they chose that home.

by Anonymousreply 20May 19, 2023 10:21 PM

Looks like something I 5 year old put together with Lego pieces. And not a particularly bright or creative 5 year old at that.

by Anonymousreply 21May 19, 2023 10:23 PM

Boring boojie ignorant talents.

by Anonymousreply 22May 19, 2023 10:25 PM

And yet you still have to live with JayZ. Pass.

by Anonymousreply 23May 19, 2023 10:29 PM

[quote]Looks like a cult compound.

Well, the Beyhive is a cult.

by Anonymousreply 24May 19, 2023 10:30 PM

R22 nice coded racism.

by Anonymousreply 25May 19, 2023 10:32 PM

I love how the Queen is always left of center. The pedestrians of todays time won’t get it.

by Anonymousreply 26May 19, 2023 10:32 PM

R16 A quarter of your money should be given to a Catholic charity. Practice what the fuck you preach.

by Anonymousreply 27May 19, 2023 10:35 PM

[quote]I love how the Queen is always left of center. The pedestrians of todays time won’t get it.

Wait a few minutes to WW yourself. You're giving yourself away.

by Anonymousreply 28May 19, 2023 10:37 PM

My pussy stinks.

by Anonymousreply 29May 19, 2023 10:38 PM

I see that the custom chair to accommodate Beyonce's wide ass has been delivered and is sitting on the lawn.

by Anonymousreply 30May 19, 2023 10:39 PM

Airport terminal and is that a guard tower?

by Anonymousreply 31May 19, 2023 10:40 PM

From Crazy in Love to just plain crazy.

by Anonymousreply 32May 19, 2023 10:40 PM

[quote]My pussy stinks.

Try washing it once in a while.

by Anonymousreply 33May 19, 2023 10:43 PM

Have none of you philistines ever heard of Ando?

by Anonymousreply 34May 19, 2023 10:47 PM

Something tells me that if these two had $3 between them some bank would give them the loan as a loss leader. "We are the Queen's mortgage holder!"

by Anonymousreply 35May 19, 2023 10:52 PM

Just call these 2 Bey-Z. Why waste so many letters?

by Anonymousreply 36May 19, 2023 10:53 PM

Money doesn't buy happiness, as they will find out.

by Anonymousreply 37May 19, 2023 10:59 PM

R30, wtf is that ugly piece of shit?

by Anonymousreply 38May 19, 2023 11:16 PM

And she has to let that thing sweat all over her 🙈 She deserves the $$$$

by Anonymousreply 39May 19, 2023 11:18 PM

I actually prefer the mobile home.

by Anonymousreply 40May 19, 2023 11:28 PM

Are they going to buy Bonnie Ivy Blue a Shetland pony named Mr. Butler? It will end in tears.

by Anonymousreply 41May 19, 2023 11:39 PM

It looks like a swanky campus building from the 90s.

by Anonymousreply 42May 19, 2023 11:44 PM

This country needs a revolution.

by Anonymousreply 43May 19, 2023 11:48 PM

It looks like a bunch of white painted shoe boxes which have been arranged on the floor next to each other, no style and unimaginative.

by Anonymousreply 44May 19, 2023 11:55 PM

[quote]It looks like a bunch of white painted shoe boxes which have been arranged on the floor next to each other, no style and unimaginative.

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by Anonymousreply 45May 19, 2023 11:59 PM

I’d kill for that house in Paradise Cove.

by Anonymousreply 46May 20, 2023 12:20 AM

The Arts are dying across the board and this house is proof that beautiful architectural style has gone down the shitter.

These uninteresting lifeless white boxes are going up around the world.

by Anonymousreply 47May 20, 2023 12:30 AM

Will they both be eligible for reparation payments? Upkeep and California property taxes will be a real bitch.

by Anonymousreply 48May 20, 2023 12:34 AM

Ladies not a single square inch of this place is ‘white’ it’s all concrete finish 😭

by Anonymousreply 49May 20, 2023 12:37 AM

Mules in horse harness!

by Anonymousreply 50May 20, 2023 12:37 AM

About the only good thing to say is that it won't burn in a fire. That's probably why the former art collector owner built it out of concrete.

by Anonymousreply 51May 20, 2023 12:37 AM

The house was built by The Bells funded by an ill-legal operation which they inisheeated in the Hawaii courts with a corrupt Japanese judge to steal my righfilly owned propertees and funds. So, I should actually own this propertyy. My beautiful floor to ceiling portraitss would look great there.

by Anonymousreply 52May 20, 2023 12:39 AM

Should their reparations checks be sent to this address?

by Anonymousreply 53May 20, 2023 12:44 AM

A home shaped like and resembling...a 1970 shopping center (?). Oh dear, the tackiness never ceases with these two!

by Anonymousreply 54May 20, 2023 12:50 AM

I've always wanted my own nuclear fusion reactor, but mine remains a mere dream and theirs a reality.

by Anonymousreply 55May 20, 2023 12:51 AM

^ Ooh, the racist old jealous white lady is here

by Anonymousreply 56May 20, 2023 12:52 AM

Looks like a mini-mall or mini-airport.

by Anonymousreply 57May 20, 2023 12:56 AM

I like it. It's grand and spacious, but understated and minimal (at least on the outside). What else would you expect from EIGHT acres of prime waterfront real estate property in Malibu? $200M seems accurate. Jay-Z is a billionaire and they're living on Billionaire's Row. If they paid $200M for some gaudy, ostentatious, over-designed, Trump-esque mansion you'd brand them tasteless, nouveau riche swine anyway. DL is too old and white to carve out any love for Beyonce.

by Anonymousreply 58May 20, 2023 1:00 AM

The article says it took 15 years to construct. Can you imagine what $200 million would build for low cost housing? What a mark they’d make on society if they built apartments for the elderly, rehabbed an LA building for homeless vets, underwrite a drug rehab center for downtown LA and built rentals for minimum wage families.

by Anonymousreply 59May 20, 2023 1:06 AM

[Quote]Ladies not a single square inch of this place is ‘white’ it’s all concrete finish

White concrete is white, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 60May 20, 2023 1:18 AM

Yes, R59.

by Anonymousreply 61May 20, 2023 1:22 AM

R59 Not much as the large concrete towers that are constructed for affordable housing can cost that much or more.

by Anonymousreply 62May 20, 2023 1:22 AM

An architectural queef

by Anonymousreply 63May 20, 2023 1:24 AM

Enjoy your ugly boxy beach house, located on an unswimmable beach.

by Anonymousreply 64May 20, 2023 1:33 AM

I hope it falls into the ocean.

by Anonymousreply 65May 20, 2023 1:35 AM

How to live together without living together.

by Anonymousreply 66May 20, 2023 1:36 AM

"Pole dancer with a recording contract"

And does the house have a control tower? Because it sure does look like an airport. About the same amount of warmth as well.

by Anonymousreply 67May 20, 2023 1:51 AM

Tacky people tacky house.

by Anonymousreply 68May 20, 2023 1:53 AM

Just my bitchfest opinion but Something is seriously wrong when these plastic people make so much money while so many really valuable people that contribute genuine value to our society such as Nurses and teachers barely even hump their way into the middle class. My hero's are the people that slog the long hours and dogged persistence of a long working life. The shit they put up with everyday is a miracle. They do this while receiving a minimum. These Celeb Strawberries Lay around and basically jack off in front of a camera, millions just pour into to their Accounts. I know i guess this is = to the USA, but it is really sickening to watch and I'm becoming increasing disgusted by it. Sports stars too. they bounce a ball or drive a car in some stupid race. They just get millions for this useless wasteful activity that cause people to buy shit they don't need. My Family are these people. The house is a horror lets turn it into a homeless care center, fuck Malibu.

by Anonymousreply 69May 20, 2023 1:56 AM

R49 is right, it is all concrete.... thats part of why it is so fugly. It could be painted white not that that would improve it much

R58 I neither know nor care who Beyonce or this JayZ person is. Its a butt ugly house

R69 couldnt agree more. Although I dont know if I'd want to inflict this monstrosity on the homeless either.

I'd want to fill it up with rock/dirt fill and place a genuinely beautiful home on top of the resulting platform. At least all that concrete is good for that as it would give good structural rigidity

by Anonymousreply 70May 20, 2023 2:02 AM

if it's really that much and the number has not been faked for PR purposes then shame on them. They are disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 71May 20, 2023 2:03 AM

It looks like an office park in Silicon Valley

by Anonymousreply 72May 20, 2023 2:05 AM

They should have bought the decommissioned San Onofre nuclear power plant. Concrete, and right on the water. Better beach, too.

by Anonymousreply 73May 20, 2023 2:08 AM

It's a bunker. I don't blame them

by Anonymousreply 74May 20, 2023 2:10 AM

Jay-Z and his dirty hoes have the east wing. Beyoncé and the surrogate children get the south wing. The crates of Hennessy and Cristal take up the north wing.

Concrete is easy to hose down the filth so it makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 75May 20, 2023 2:14 AM

Maybe they just wanted the land and it will be a tear down.

by Anonymousreply 76May 20, 2023 2:15 AM


by Anonymousreply 77May 20, 2023 2:16 AM

But, does it have a basement mall…..

by Anonymousreply 78May 20, 2023 2:17 AM

It comes with an elevator for Solange

by Anonymousreply 79May 20, 2023 2:20 AM

DL would've loved the property before the original owner sold it to Beyonce & Jay-Z. Now, they rag on it. Haters gonna hate.

by Anonymousreply 80May 20, 2023 2:22 AM

[R49]is right, it is all concrete.... thats part of why it is so fugly. It could be painted white not that that would improve it much

Why talk about things you don't know? One doesn't paint concrete. One adds a tint to the concrete before pouring as the builders did in this construction. A white tint.

by Anonymousreply 81May 20, 2023 2:22 AM

Say what girl? 💅

by Anonymousreply 82May 20, 2023 2:23 AM

It looks cold and empty.

Like Beyonce and Jay-Z themselves.

by Anonymousreply 83May 20, 2023 2:23 AM

Here's hoping it is swallowed by the ocean the next time Caliphonia gets another shake.

by Anonymousreply 84May 20, 2023 2:25 AM

The best we can do is to not give them any attention. They have published this to a) make sure that people will talk about them and b) broadcast to fellow celebrities that they are at the top of the pecking order, and possibly aspire to climb to a higher stratum.

Nonetheless, it's a rather tacky and vulgar thing to do. They are behaving like the trashy nouveau riches that they are.

by Anonymousreply 85May 20, 2023 2:27 AM

R80, nope. But you would have hated it if it belonged to someone not on your approved list.

by Anonymousreply 86May 20, 2023 2:30 AM

R85 False. The Queen doesn’t have to do anything for attention. She is the attention. A sale of this magnitude is impossible to keep secret when one is famous. One of the many parties involved will inform the press.

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by Anonymousreply 88May 20, 2023 2:36 AM

R84 what a horrible thing to say. What if the Queen, King Consort Shawn, the twins, and the beautiful Blue Ivy were in it.

by Anonymousreply 89May 20, 2023 2:37 AM

I am a bit of a Zillow addict and look at homes in different cities and fantasize. Even in this crazy market, that does not look like anywhere near $200M worth. Fools and their money……

by Anonymousreply 90May 20, 2023 2:40 AM

She still has to roll over and look at this every morning...

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by Anonymousreply 91May 20, 2023 2:41 AM

I’m dying to see the inside. Maybe it will redeem the sins of the outside.

by Anonymousreply 92May 20, 2023 2:46 AM

No R80 it would still be awful.

by Anonymousreply 93May 20, 2023 2:56 AM

The Queen will be hosting a seminar there this summer just for Dataloungers. How to win friends and twerk your aging mussy. Are you happy now?

by Anonymousreply 94May 20, 2023 2:58 AM

Nice location, underwhelming design.

by Anonymousreply 95May 20, 2023 3:02 AM

They didn't want to live near us in Montecito?

by Anonymousreply 96May 20, 2023 3:03 AM

I thought R93 was replying to R92, but they were actually replying to R80. Doesnt matter because either way they're right! The interior is likely just as hideous, how could it not be?

R80 most of us here hate this kind of architecture and dont care who owns it. Some of us may not even know who Beyonce is. I have a vague inkling myself, but if she bought something beautiful like an old Victorian place I'd be praising it (and her taste)

by Anonymousreply 97May 20, 2023 3:17 AM

R97, the house was probably constructed of concrete to withstand wildfires. An old Victorian in that area would be torched and gone in an instant. It's not my cup of tea but then I don't have to live in it.

by Anonymousreply 98May 20, 2023 4:01 AM

Is this anywhere near Barbra’s ersatz New England farmstead?

by Anonymousreply 99May 20, 2023 4:17 AM

[quote]the house was probably constructed of concrete to withstand wildfires.

It was designed by Tadao Ando, an architect, who had been world famous for most of 30 years when he began work on the project in 1999/2000 -- famous for designing modern buildings in concrete, and almost without exception in concrete that celebrates its essential concreteness. The fireproof quality of concrete may have been a factor in the patron's mind, but hiring one of the most famous architects in the world with a very specific aesthetic, and letting him fuck around with the design for 15 years, the client definitely wanted a big concrete box with some glass for the look.

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by Anonymousreply 100May 20, 2023 4:37 AM

More examples of Ando's work. including 'the Tom Ford House, Stable, and Mausoleum, aka Cerro Pelon Ranch' on 32 square miles of land in New Mexico.

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by Anonymousreply 101May 20, 2023 4:40 AM

R91, 🤣🤣🤣!

by Anonymousreply 102May 20, 2023 5:42 AM

Good luck selling that behemoth when they can’t afford it any more.

You might as well buy Antarctica and then freak out when no one can afford to buy it from you later, when you’re continent-poor. That’s not an investment, it’s an unsustainable bottomless pit of expense.

by Anonymousreply 103May 20, 2023 5:45 AM

[quote]With all of the charming properties near there I'm not sure why they chose that home.

So they could say they bought the most expensive home in the history of California real estate. Duh.

by Anonymousreply 104May 20, 2023 5:47 AM

[quote]the house was probably constructed of concrete to withstand wildfires. An old Victorian in that area would be torched and gone in an instant. It's not my cup of tea but then I don't have to live in it.

R98 Thats a very good point, hadnt thought of that. That said, it is quite possible to build in that style in concrete, and it was done back in the day. The house linked was built back in 1873, although admittedly it was an uncommon material for homes back then - From a Guardian article;

[quote]Built in 1873, the house's walls are not made of the traditional brick, but pre-cast concrete. It is one of a tiny number of survivors from a brief period when a handful of Victorian builders became convinced that concrete was the future of housing. It is also believed to be the only remaining property built by Charles Drake, the era's most prolific and enthusiastic proponent of concrete homes.

So it is possible to build something charming and in concrete

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by Anonymousreply 105May 20, 2023 5:48 AM


A place to sleep the 550 people who “work” on her stadium tour along with the 25 “writers” it takes to pen each of her songs.

Get to work!

by Anonymousreply 106May 20, 2023 6:16 AM

[quote] So it is possible to build something charming and in concrete

No, shit!

by Anonymousreply 107May 20, 2023 6:19 AM

R105, that's very interesting. I didn't realize they adapted that type of construction for residential structures in the UK. No offense to Paris and R107, lol.

by Anonymousreply 108May 20, 2023 7:05 AM

I mean gorgeous view. Real estate is nuts right now in general. Feel like the bubble will pop.

by Anonymousreply 109May 20, 2023 10:40 AM

[quote] Can you imagine what $200 million would build for low cost housing?

About 20 sheds if it's in California.

by Anonymousreply 110May 20, 2023 1:13 PM

In case someone is interested, the Daily Fail has lots of pix. Hard to understand what they saw in this brutal looking abode……but hey…..rich people are different from you and me.

by Anonymousreply 111May 20, 2023 2:05 PM

I actually like it. I’ve always enjoyed stark looking buildings and homes. And the view!

by Anonymousreply 112May 20, 2023 2:58 PM

I don’t mind the concrete, but it’s all so faceless, random and sprawled out.

by Anonymousreply 113May 20, 2023 2:59 PM

A great view to me includes more than a sea and sky horizon.

by Anonymousreply 114May 20, 2023 3:00 PM

Will they live there are be buried there?

by Anonymousreply 115May 20, 2023 3:07 PM

R101, the Tom Ford house looks like a place where male models are kept in chains.

by Anonymousreply 116May 20, 2023 3:16 PM

R116 - Looks? Why be coy?

by Anonymousreply 117May 20, 2023 3:26 PM

It has a museum for a private art collection on the property. Are there any photos?

by Anonymousreply 118May 20, 2023 3:35 PM


by Anonymousreply 119May 20, 2023 3:37 PM

All the warmth, livability, and home comforts of a Museum of Modern Art!

by Anonymousreply 120May 20, 2023 3:54 PM

[quote] brutal looking

I read this as "[bold]burial[/bold] looking"; works as well.

by Anonymousreply 121May 20, 2023 4:11 PM

R115 has it - saw it after I posted R121.

by Anonymousreply 122May 20, 2023 4:22 PM

The art gallery is in the part with the huge windows. You can see a Jeff Koons piece in the window.

by Anonymousreply 123May 20, 2023 4:22 PM

Her recent tour is going very well.

the Renaissance World Tour could be earning $6.8 million-$7.5 million per show, a personal-best that could potentially notch her first $300 million tour.

by Anonymousreply 124May 20, 2023 4:23 PM

The whole place looks like a museum of modern art. God, their kids are loaded.

by Anonymousreply 125May 20, 2023 4:26 PM

[quote]It looks cold and empty. Like Beyonce and Jay-Z themselves.

Beyoncé’s personality is so hidden she’s practically tabula rasa. Jay-Z, on the other hand, I have always found charismatic. I know very little about him so he could be a terrible person for all I know, but he has an interesting vibe.

by Anonymousreply 126May 20, 2023 5:17 PM

Ok girls, why so harsh? Some gingham crisscross curtains in the breakfast nook, a few message magnets and pix of the kiddos on the frig, BarcaLoungers in the fancy room and run a drying line along the pool to take advantage of those fresh ocean breezes. Cozy as hell.

by Anonymousreply 127May 20, 2023 5:31 PM

[quote] Airport terminal and is that a guard tower?

R31 It definitely has a liminal spaces vibe.

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by Anonymousreply 128May 20, 2023 7:07 PM

Where's the b'day ?

by Anonymousreply 129May 20, 2023 7:21 PM

Are they art collectors? There is certainly nothing avant-garde about either of them. I mean their looks and music and fashion are tacky as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 130May 20, 2023 7:34 PM

[quote] Boring boojie ignorant talents.

[quote] nice coded racism.

r25 I take "boojie" meaning bourgeois. It's not racist.

by Anonymousreply 131May 20, 2023 7:37 PM

R130 yes they are huge collectors. About a decade ago Jay-Z hosted his album release at an art gallery in NYC.

Queen bey and Jay are fashion icons but I respect your opinion regarding their taste. I love when they dressed up as Frida and Jean Baptiste a few Halloweens ago.

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by Anonymousreply 132May 20, 2023 7:40 PM

What art do they collect? Thank you for this information.

by Anonymousreply 133May 20, 2023 7:42 PM

I bet they collect anything their art adviser tells them is a good investment.

by Anonymousreply 134May 20, 2023 7:45 PM

R133, No problem my friend.

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by Anonymousreply 135May 20, 2023 7:46 PM

I see that being a stupid hoe has it's benefits!

by Anonymousreply 136May 20, 2023 7:54 PM

I don’t like her music but I respect her real estate and art portfolio. This house is something that could eventually be an art gallery and homage to its inhabitants. I’m sure many of the gilded age frowned upon the Newport RI mansions in their day. Now people fawn over them.

by Anonymousreply 137May 20, 2023 7:54 PM

I see the collect the usual suspects. But thank you, now I am informed.

by Anonymousreply 138May 20, 2023 7:57 PM

R136 you are very very ignorant and not even witty or clever while being so.

by Anonymousreply 139May 20, 2023 8:00 PM

When you block R139, a quarter of the ass kissing replies in this thread disappear.

by Anonymousreply 140May 20, 2023 8:24 PM

R140 Life becomes so much clearer and brighter when you embrace love and not hate.

by Anonymousreply 141May 20, 2023 8:34 PM

[quote] most of us here hate this kind of architecture and dont care who owns it. Some of us may not even know who Beyonce is. I have a vague inkling myself, but if she bought something beautiful like an old Victorian place I'd be praising it (and her taste)

This is maybe the ultimate ignorant but thinks they’re not dl comment. I was going to joke earlier and say I’m sure the oldies on here would prefer a shitty Victorian and lo and behold it was done for me 😂😂😂 it even has the self referential plural 😭

The architecture threads on here are always so desperate, and gays supposedly have style!

by Anonymousreply 142May 20, 2023 9:25 PM

I agree with you r142

I hate Victorian. Love minimalism.

But I also hate Beyonce and Jay Z. Talentless people whose wealth shows the cultural desperation of America celebrity worship.

by Anonymousreply 143May 21, 2023 2:20 AM

R143 agree the wealth is disgusting. But I don’t think you could call Beyoncé talentless, even if you’re not into her.

by Anonymousreply 144May 21, 2023 3:15 AM

Show offs. Richer celebs pay less for their homes.

by Anonymousreply 145May 21, 2023 4:43 AM

Can they get any more pathetic and fugly ??

by Anonymousreply 146May 21, 2023 5:38 AM

Maybe it’s concretey because it’s in wildfire country R1.

by Anonymousreply 147May 21, 2023 5:42 AM

Malibu?! What if there's an earthquake followed by a big tsunami?

Then again, I hear Manhattan is slowly sinking under the weight of its skyscrapers.

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by Anonymousreply 148May 21, 2023 6:03 AM

I like it even though the choice of colours is a little too safe, with all the beiges, browns and grays. I wonder how much it costs to air condition such a big place. I hope the edge of the property is well protected from water erosion.

by Anonymousreply 149May 21, 2023 6:50 AM

I guess the address is 27712 Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu.

by Anonymousreply 150May 21, 2023 6:56 AM
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by Anonymousreply 151May 21, 2023 7:04 AM

^^^ It sold for $14.5 million in 2003 and now sold for $200 million in May 2023! That's one hell of a mark up.

by Anonymousreply 152May 21, 2023 7:07 AM

R107, the apartment buildings built by Haussmann in Paris are faced with limestone, not concrete.

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by Anonymousreply 153May 21, 2023 7:26 AM

Concrete reminds both of their various relatives time in prisons.

Just a view, and good food

by Anonymousreply 154May 21, 2023 7:27 AM

They could hold tech conferences for all their friends

by Anonymousreply 155May 21, 2023 7:40 AM

That house has Tom Ford's finger prints all over it. The architect that did this did one of Tom Ford's house? It reminds me of his ranch in Santa Fe.As soon as I saw the exterior, I thought of him. His kid goes to school with her kids and I know he has a lot of influence over Jay-Z's style.

by Anonymousreply 156May 21, 2023 7:52 AM

i guess they think she will make the upper limits on this tour.

by Anonymousreply 157May 21, 2023 8:00 AM

They brought this house from the Bell family. Why they do not want it now, who knows? The massive compound has a secure private museum. It has the vibe of a Modern Art Museum.

by Anonymousreply 158May 21, 2023 8:09 AM

They are not going to live in it. It is an investment. A place to park their money and get tax advantages.

by Anonymousreply 159May 21, 2023 8:42 AM

[quote] [R25] I take "boojie" meaning bourgeois. It's not racist.

The misspelling is a tell. It's just an idiot way of saying "uppity n-words."

by Anonymousreply 160May 21, 2023 8:48 AM

It might as well have “Arbeit Macht Frei” over the front door.

by Anonymousreply 161May 21, 2023 9:12 AM

I doubt it needs AC. It’s right on the ocean and perfectly situated to funnel breezes.

by Anonymousreply 162May 21, 2023 9:14 AM

the only way the get a tax advantage if they make it an official museum. It is in California. There is no tax advantage.

by Anonymousreply 163May 21, 2023 9:17 AM

You people are fucking nuts. The place is gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 164May 21, 2023 9:32 AM

As usual, Gaga does it better.

And at 1/10 the cost.

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by Anonymousreply 165May 21, 2023 9:54 AM

I wonder if they could make it into a music studio? So really a business related purchase?

by Anonymousreply 166May 21, 2023 9:55 AM

I wonder if they could make it into a music studio? So really a business related purchase?

by Anonymousreply 167May 21, 2023 9:56 AM

Conspicuous consumption. I think it's immoral to keep hundreds of millions dollars that no one and their children/grandchildren will ever need while millions of people live in the breadline, are homeless or animals suffer and need help etc, the list goes on.

Not saying rich people shouldn't enjoy their wealth and have nice things but don't hoard your money and waste it on $200m property that looks like shit

by Anonymousreply 168May 21, 2023 10:09 AM

We need to tax this, absolutely. We need to have a tax code that expands and protects the middle class. We need make sure this money is locked up into entitlement programs for the American People (medical care, robust pensions and education), so the corrupt politicians and their donors cannot touch it.

by Anonymousreply 169May 21, 2023 11:05 AM

Ah, I get it now. The huge mark up is after architect Tadao Ando did his magic.

How many maids do they need to keep a 40,000 square foot house clean?

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by Anonymousreply 170May 21, 2023 2:08 PM

That place looks like a cross between a shopping mall and a 1980s motel.

by Anonymousreply 171May 21, 2023 2:15 PM

R167, if you look through the gallery of photos of the interior in OP's link, there is a recording studio in there.

by Anonymousreply 172May 21, 2023 2:21 PM

We were saying it looks like a nursing home in the aerials. Some of the interior sightlines make good use of the views, but . . . this is like 8% of their net worth? Are we about to have a big enough underclass that they can staff/run it feasibly? I know Beyonce watched Downton Abbey.

by Anonymousreply 173May 21, 2023 2:25 PM

It is a cross between a 1980's shopping mall and a modern museum out of Beetlejuice. The nuisance shit of this architect makes it less appealing.

by Anonymousreply 174May 21, 2023 2:32 PM

[quote] It sold for $14.5 million in 2003 and now sold for $200 million in May 2023! That's one hell of a mark up.

I am wondering if this was just for the land. There was a rare promontory of flat land in Malibu that they had been trying to sell for some time. 14.M to 200M is a massive jump. Also, I would be shocked of there house was on PCH, b/c that's all waterfront. They are probably in gated Serra Retreat and way up.

by Anonymousreply 175May 21, 2023 2:34 PM

I'll say it again, but why the fuck do people need all that space? I know. BIllionaires do what they want because they can. But why? I get it. You want to have a nice big house. But this is just ridiculous. Maybe it's because I really don't like them as a couple. But I felt the same way about the Gates family back before they divorced. Now I know nothing about him, but Dr. Dre is loaded. Billionaire. George Clooney is loaded Billionaire. But the ostentatious monstrosity here is just offensive. He's no better than a Kardashian or Kanye.

by Anonymousreply 176May 21, 2023 2:38 PM

I'm curious if Chris Cortozzo was the agent. He was Herb Ritz's young, model widower (at the time) before he passed and is the king of Malibu real estate. The commission is typically 2.5 but on a house like this, let's say they negotiated a reduced commission of 2.0% on a 85% split with the agency. The agent, whoever they are, made 3.4 MILLION dollars on this sale.

by Anonymousreply 177May 21, 2023 2:39 PM

Why listen to a lawyer who is getting paid by white supremist? I mean, we can all watch the video. That scumbag lawyer is lying too.

by Anonymousreply 178May 21, 2023 2:43 PM

No, no, R172. The house is definitely at 27712 Pacific Coast Highway, as mentioned in the link at R151. If you type the address into google maps and look at the satellite view, it is their house. The house is also shown in the link at R101, along with its address.

by Anonymousreply 179May 21, 2023 2:48 PM

You ar right, R172. I just looked at the map. They are out further north past the colony where Cher and Baby live which has those massive pieces of cliff side land. I was thinking of everything before Paradise Cove where the houses are literally on right on PCH on one side and the beach on the other.

by Anonymousreply 180May 21, 2023 2:52 PM

^^^ I meant R175.

by Anonymousreply 181May 21, 2023 2:52 PM

^^^ I meant [R179]

by Anonymousreply 182May 21, 2023 2:53 PM

You're probably right, R175. The $14 million was probably for the land. After the previous owner hired starchitect Tadao Ando to design the house and the owner took 15 years to build the new house, according to the TMZ article, there was a tremendous jump in price.

by Anonymousreply 183May 21, 2023 2:59 PM

Tasteful Friends - Which diva has the best Malibu house (price aside):

Diva #1 - Cher - This is a reverse angle from the ocean. Cher's house has panoramic views. Off PCH, but w/ guardhouse and long driveway.

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by Anonymousreply 184May 21, 2023 3:05 PM

Diva #2 - Barbara Streisand complete with that private mall, but her house is literally right on the cliff and she doesn't have much by way of usable yard.

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by Anonymousreply 185May 21, 2023 3:08 PM

Looks like something Kanye would buy.

(That’s not a compliment.)

by Anonymousreply 186May 21, 2023 3:11 PM

Diva #3 - Lady Gaga - Her home is more rustic, ocean views but up in the hills, Lots of land with horse stables, trails, etc.

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by Anonymousreply 187May 21, 2023 3:12 PM

Diva #4 - Beyonce

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by Anonymousreply 188May 21, 2023 3:14 PM

Finally, just b/c I had to post it.

Diva #4 - Candy Spelling - Red brick on the sand in Malibu is a statement

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by Anonymousreply 189May 21, 2023 3:16 PM

They'll live there a year or so and put it up for sale at a huge increase.

by Anonymousreply 190May 21, 2023 3:19 PM

Are they planning to complete the construction?

by Anonymousreply 191May 21, 2023 3:23 PM

Gaga's look the best to me. Better than Beyonce's home at least.

by Anonymousreply 192May 21, 2023 5:21 PM

Whoever has the most acreage wins.

by Anonymousreply 193May 21, 2023 5:27 PM

Gaga’s, Cher’s and Barbra’s houses are all cheaply constructed, have no design other than to be large and to give in to the clients poor taste in housing, and none of them have access to the water directly.

Beyoncé’s house is architecture. That’s the difference. Expensive construction (not just in the finishes). Thoughtful design that concerns each part of the building (not just finishes). And she has direct beach access.

by Anonymousreply 194May 21, 2023 6:12 PM

I hate the argument at r69. Entertainers provide their talents to millions of people who pay them for their services. A nurse or teacher providers services to 3,000 people in their career. Duh.

by Anonymousreply 195May 21, 2023 6:15 PM

I was not that impressed with Gaga's house. It's fine and the there is some land, but it's noting to gaga about. I like Bab's cliff view and I have driven passed Cher's house so many times and I like that one as well. Beyonce has the most average, usable land, and architecture so I have to go with that one though I think I would be fine w/ Cher's house

by Anonymousreply 196May 21, 2023 6:18 PM

How does one have a shopping mall in one's house? Is this true? Like there's a Fendi, Neiman's, etc. outlets in their house? Food court, Gloria Jean's?

by Anonymousreply 197May 21, 2023 6:25 PM

Barbra does love her Hot Dog On A Stick with a large lemonade.

by Anonymousreply 198May 21, 2023 6:27 PM

How long until the police are called there for something?

by Anonymousreply 199May 21, 2023 6:29 PM

Candy's house is nasty- 2 combined (and it looks like it), with interiors that are vomit- inducing.

by Anonymousreply 200May 21, 2023 6:55 PM

Candy's house it terrible! She has awful taste. The Manor was impressive for the sheer size of it all, but the interiors were not good. It's gorgeous now that it's been renovated. Candy has old lady taste even when she was younger.

by Anonymousreply 201May 21, 2023 7:10 PM

Architectural Masterpiece?

by Anonymousreply 202May 21, 2023 7:22 PM

I admire Tadao Ando but I would never hire him for a private residence.

by Anonymousreply 203May 21, 2023 7:24 PM

A series of cement boxes. Meh.

by Anonymousreply 204May 21, 2023 7:31 PM

R95 Yes,Just as much as patents and copywriter deliver profits to artists industry protects formulas and processes under these protections. Thereby making many thing more costly than they would otherwise be.Even music phrases and Microbes are protected to deliver profits to individuals. Entertainers provide for the camera or microphone the duplicating powers of the media do the rest. A big part of corporatism is the protection of these rights and getting them enforced. China and Mexico let these properties get used without getting royalties for the owners. It is but one of the reasons we are supposed to hate them. In fact lead was put in gasoline for at least 50 years because the non polluting alternatives could not be protected under patent laws. We were then bathed the planet in a cloud of lead vapor for 50 years but as this didn't benefit us. Only the patent holders got money. The rest of were poisined. As it doesn't benefit us to have these guys have a mansion in Malibu. Duh,Duh

by Anonymousreply 205May 21, 2023 8:01 PM

[quote] A series of cement boxes. Meh.

I’m guessing you’d respond more to a house constructed of a bunch of 2x4s stapled together with Home Depot grade drywall stuck onto them and some laminate wooden flooring and a bunch of fake plastic ‘Victorian’ cornicing and paneling lmao 💀

by Anonymousreply 206May 21, 2023 8:23 PM

It’s a statement piece. There’s nothing else quite like it hence the price. Hate it or love it, it wasn’t designed to appeal to the masses.

by Anonymousreply 207May 21, 2023 8:34 PM

[quote]There’s nothing else quite like it

Airport terminals, corporate compounds, sterile MA museums...

by Anonymousreply 208May 21, 2023 8:38 PM

Good luck ever selling that place.

by Anonymousreply 209May 21, 2023 8:38 PM

R209 yes it won’t sell again easily.

by Anonymousreply 210May 21, 2023 8:41 PM

[quote] They are not going to live in it. It is an investment. A place to park their money and get tax advantages.

There are loads of CA tax advantages for the ultra-rich in California, depending on how the property is held, managed and financed. Even if expenses associated with this castle result in a loss it is an offset to other income and capital gains.

by Anonymousreply 211May 21, 2023 8:55 PM

[quote] their kids are loaded.

Probably all the weed and cognac.

by Anonymousreply 212May 21, 2023 9:11 PM

It would be nice if these two would establish a sort of educational retreat for underprivileged kids of an artistic bent. They could stay there and be exposed to art and even learn to work a music studio giving them options for their future. I think both of them are too shallow, greedy and vapid though.

by Anonymousreply 213May 21, 2023 9:18 PM

I like Gaga's because it's a bit out of the way. More privacy.

Being on the beach in Malibu isn't like being on the beach in, say, Hawaii. It's too cold most of the year for swimming and I much prefer hiking, trails, horses, etc.

I guess I prefer Gaga's land over the others.

As far as the houses themselves? Eh. They're all big and ostentatious and way more brick than I'd ever want.

by Anonymousreply 214May 21, 2023 9:26 PM

@ R213

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by Anonymousreply 215May 21, 2023 9:34 PM

How did they manage to accumulate so much money? Seriously, can someone please explain this to me?

by Anonymousreply 216May 21, 2023 9:47 PM

You know how these celeb real estate reports turn out to be huge lies. I doubt they paid anywhere near $200 million for that house. That was probably the initial asking price.

by Anonymousreply 217May 22, 2023 12:48 AM

R154 They’ve never been to prison you dumb ass bitch. Have you ever been to college.

GED or Diploma? Cunt.

by Anonymousreply 218May 22, 2023 12:50 AM

213 But hey have Blanche they have. Google Beyoncé’s educational institution in Brooklyn.

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by Anonymousreply 220May 22, 2023 12:52 AM

R215 These lunatics are so misinformed they don’t care if they look like fools. And yes do your fucking homework if your going to post lies on a thread.

by Anonymousreply 221May 22, 2023 12:55 AM

FWIW, these two support projects around Houston, e.g., the Knowles-Temenos Place Apartments.

by Anonymousreply 222May 22, 2023 1:04 AM

R222, Thank you. The deranged envious bottom feeders refuse to do their homework on America’s royalty which is fine. But then don’t post lies then.

by Anonymousreply 223May 22, 2023 1:07 AM

America's royalty? Good God man. I'm embarrassed for you.

by Anonymousreply 224May 22, 2023 1:29 AM

Airport terminal in Boise.

by Anonymousreply 225May 22, 2023 1:32 AM

It was listed for $295 million. I would much prefer the old Jack Warner estate that David Geffen sold to Jeff Bezos for $165. That is an equisite house, and the highest sale at the time back in the 90s when Geffen paid almost $50 million, including the art and furniture.

by Anonymousreply 226May 22, 2023 1:44 AM

I read they've kept their other house in LA, so I doubt they have any plans to live in this hideous thing full time.

by Anonymousreply 227May 22, 2023 1:48 AM

That's a lot of terlits to clean.

by Anonymousreply 228May 22, 2023 1:50 AM

I'd pay everything I have not to live there. Gross.

by Anonymousreply 229May 22, 2023 1:51 AM

I didn't realize they were so wealthy. In any case, I hope they plan on keeping that place, because they'll never be able to sell that at a profit even in 20 years.

by Anonymousreply 230May 22, 2023 1:57 AM

What are the untapped places in the U.S. that will be worth a fortune in like 15 - 20 years, like Malibu is now? I remember visiting family in LA a long time ago and Malibu just seemed so far away and there was nothing to do there except go to the mart and a restaurant.

by Anonymousreply 231May 22, 2023 2:05 AM

Eat the rich.

by Anonymousreply 232May 22, 2023 2:37 AM

[quote] FWIW, these two support projects around Houston, e.g., the Knowles-Temenos Place Apartments.

It’s the Cabrini Green of Houston.

by Anonymousreply 233May 22, 2023 2:37 AM

There are some real know-nothings on this thread who aren't aware that real estate transactions are a matter of public record.

by Anonymousreply 234May 22, 2023 4:36 AM

The house is not ugly, but it shouldn't even cost a third of that,let alone 200 million dollars, fuck these two.

by Anonymousreply 235May 22, 2023 5:14 AM

Heads on sticks! Get the torches!

by Anonymousreply 236May 22, 2023 5:37 AM

So then ... no one can explain why these two have so much spendable cash?

by Anonymousreply 237May 22, 2023 5:45 AM

[quote]How did they manage to accumulate so much money? Seriously, can someone please explain this to me?

I guess Beyoncé's concert tours are really, really profitable. Plus Jay-Z is an extremely successful producer.

by Anonymousreply 238May 22, 2023 6:54 AM

So many rooms that Jay can discreetly bring his whores in

by Anonymousreply 239May 22, 2023 7:02 AM

[R153]the apartment buildings built by Haussmann in Paris are faced with limestone, not concrete.

Not who you were talking to, but thats really interesting, I didnt know that. I do recall that a few buildings in Paris were made in concrete in that era

[quote]As usual, Gaga does it better.

And at 1/10 the cost.

R165 Agreed. That is far nicer, even though its a bit bland inside. Its quite comfy and pleasant. It looks like a home, not a prison camp

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by Anonymousreply 241May 22, 2023 8:23 AM

And they paid cash for it.

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by Anonymousreply 242May 22, 2023 2:19 PM

R238 I heard recently that Taylor Swift makes 12 million per concert at her larger stadium shows. That adds up. Even if Queen Bey was getting half that.

by Anonymousreply 243May 22, 2023 2:33 PM

Nobody keeps $200mm in cash. Obviously shares were sold somewhere. They are billionaires but not hundreds of billions worth.

by Anonymousreply 244May 22, 2023 3:23 PM

I hate houses like that. I'd much rather buy a lot of land and live in a modest house on a lake than pay that sort of money for a house I'm not a fan of - though I get that the type of thing I'd want isn't even an option in LA.

The real estate market in LA is insane though - you see these multi-million pound houses on the likes of Selling Sunset and they go on about the incredible views - but it's just views of other people's houses (and they can see yours too) and loads of concrete. Pass.

by Anonymousreply 245May 22, 2023 3:42 PM

Listen, 20 years from now, Anything in the north close to fresh water is going to be worth a fortune. So look to the Great Lakes. Upstate NY, Michigan Wisconsin, Illinois, etc. Because California will be on fire.

by Anonymousreply 246May 22, 2023 3:57 PM

R245 selling sunset and the housing on the sunset strip isn't really indicative of LA housing stock generally. That type of housing only really exists over there, and then further west along the hills towards the ocean in some parts. There are a lot of very charming single family homes in the hills around Echo Park / Silverlake / Los Feliz / Mount Washington that all have nice views but also a lot of private outdoor space (great for sex parties ;) ) and also all of the canyons have a lot of cool ranchy / mediterranean / mid century places that also have both. Once you get off the flats in LA anywhere east you see a lot of very jumbled together housing styles, this is particular to the area (it doesn't (and LA generally doesn't) have any of the estate type planning familiar to europeans with 200 of the same building in a row) which is cool and unique. It's worth checking out.

by Anonymousreply 247May 22, 2023 4:50 PM

It's kind of sad for this King and Queen that Kanye and Kim K each already have their Tadao Ando houses, not to mention Tom Ford. Doesn't seem very cutting edge. And they have overpaid. Or the price is bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 248May 22, 2023 6:28 PM

I would safely bet that most rock stars, musicians, performers, celebrities, etc. usually overpay for their real estate. It just seems like they make so much money so quickly they just don't manage it well. Now some do. But many do not. Jay Z has always thought of himself as a business man. But I hope he also has sound business advisors.

by Anonymousreply 249May 22, 2023 6:45 PM

Apparently Biltmore cost 5 million which is 180 million today.

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by Anonymousreply 250May 22, 2023 6:50 PM

Queen Bey is the most famous woman in the world. She must live a security strict compound.

by Anonymousreply 251May 22, 2023 7:48 PM

R250 isn’t that sad? Imagine what Biltmore would cost today? Way more than $180mm. Didn’t Biltmore nearly bankrupt the owner? The gilded age today seems far more severe than the original one.

by Anonymousreply 252May 22, 2023 8:23 PM

If he really is worth $2.5 billion, that is a reasonable purchase. Still hate the house.

by Anonymousreply 253May 22, 2023 11:04 PM

R7 Jealous much? A shitty person much?

by Anonymousreply 254May 22, 2023 11:07 PM

R249, they don't overpay any more than others with money. What they will do is buy more than they can afford, thinking they'll always have money flowing in.

If you are an agent, you are negotiating with business managers and attorneys- many of whom have their own agendas.

by Anonymousreply 255May 22, 2023 11:12 PM

R251 She IS??? No fucking way. You are obviously very high on some exotic drug. Come on down baby... you're cray-cray.

by Anonymousreply 256May 23, 2023 8:04 AM

I'm happy to say that neither one of these people has ever made even one red cent of of me. And it'll remain that way.

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by Anonymousreply 258May 23, 2023 10:35 AM

Why are so many celebs and billionaires in California so obsessed with living in hideous rectangular concrete houses/mansions with white minimalist interiors?

by Anonymousreply 259May 23, 2023 11:19 AM

How many shitters in the place?

by Anonymousreply 260May 23, 2023 3:42 PM

R260 I imagine a home of this magnitude there are at least a dozen bathrooms.

by Anonymousreply 261May 23, 2023 3:46 PM

More bedrooms for Jay-Z to keep his mistresses in.

by Anonymousreply 262May 23, 2023 5:05 PM

R262 why do you keep making the same joke? Are you ok?

by Anonymousreply 263May 23, 2023 5:07 PM

It goes to show that great wealth doesn't mean taste. Buying a $200 million was an obscene flash of their money to show off. It's the most expensive home ever in CA, after all.

by Anonymousreply 264May 23, 2023 8:18 PM

$200 million *home^

by Anonymousreply 265May 23, 2023 8:19 PM

R264 I kinda feel your sentiment but they are billionaires after all. Their home is going to match their wealth. Good thing Queen Bey and King Consort Sean are philanthropists just like the great Bill Gates.

by Anonymousreply 266May 23, 2023 8:20 PM

I made this exact house in the Sims once. I had to use every cheat code and it crashed the game.

by Anonymousreply 267May 23, 2023 8:53 PM

They are buy-sexuals.

by Anonymousreply 268May 23, 2023 9:10 PM

[quote] This house is something that could eventually be an art gallery and homage to its inhabitants.

Wouldn’t the glare of the California sun reflecting off the ocean damage the art?

by Anonymousreply 269May 23, 2023 11:01 PM

I actually love Ando's work and the house but I'm sort of surprised they like it. Well, Kim K has one too so they have to have one... (rolls eyes)

$200M makes sense for all that land in Malibu. Shrug.

Their fans made them all this money so, yeah, they've got it. I think Jay-Z is talented too... not so convinced about Bey's singing qualities, but she is pretty and seems to be a good entertainer/dancer.

by Anonymousreply 270May 23, 2023 11:13 PM

Thank you Mr. Nicey McPollyanna.

by Anonymousreply 271May 23, 2023 11:29 PM

R269 Over 109 years ago they invented something called blinds. And today they have high tech tinted windows.

by Anonymousreply 272May 24, 2023 2:47 AM

An art collector who spent 15 years building a house has state of the art rotating shades, and other things to prevent damage.

by Anonymousreply 273May 24, 2023 7:25 AM

I would presume one can prevent damage with the correct glass, alone.

by Anonymousreply 274May 24, 2023 9:30 AM

[quote] $200 million and you still look into your neighbor's windows

That's why California pervs pay extra

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by Anonymousreply 275May 24, 2023 10:15 AM

I once saw a video on You Tube before it got sanitized when it was bought out, and in the video, it was home made, Jay Z and his boys were hanging out and he was arguing with some random woman and he started beating on her. He roughed her up and they were cursing at one another until his boys stopped him. It was authentic, not for show. But I don't think you can find it now. This was before he married Beyonce' and became a role model. LOL!

by Anonymousreply 276May 24, 2023 2:05 PM

R276 Another stankin ass lie. He mushed her after said woman got in his face and put hands on him first.

by Anonymousreply 277May 24, 2023 2:58 PM

It’s sleek and modern at least. Some of these ultra rich celebrities pay so many millions for custom compounds and they’re just oversized and ugly. Tom and Gisele had an ugly custom built property iirc. The only drawback is I’d think you’ll need a golf cart to get around JayZ and Beyoncé’s place.

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by Anonymousreply 279June 11, 2023 2:15 AM

Bold and Beautiful shot some episodes on the property, I believe. I’m guessing they filmed outdoors on the grounds as opposed to inside the home.

by Anonymousreply 280June 11, 2023 4:40 AM

R279, fash mag slag

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