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Where were you 29 years ago today ?

Where were you 29 years ago today ?

This is the day Jackie Kennedy Onassis died at the age of 64 from cancer. It was so sad to see her son JFK, JR come out of her Park Avenue apartment building that morning, and address the crowd of reporters waiting for him. Probably one of the toughest things he ever had to do in his adult life. The whole world mourned her death, as she was the epitome of class and grace.

by Anonymousreply 117May 25, 2023 2:47 PM

I was 1.

by Anonymousreply 1May 19, 2023 6:00 PM

Hanging in 1st grade in my hometown Weston, CT!

by Anonymousreply 2May 19, 2023 6:04 PM

I was working for her publisher Doubleday at the time. I honestly don’t remember how we found out or what the mood. I only remember her son announcing it to the world.

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by Anonymousreply 3May 19, 2023 6:10 PM

She lived on Fifth Avenue, not Park

by Anonymousreply 4May 23, 2023 12:13 PM

I was celebrating! Until I read the will...

by Anonymousreply 5May 23, 2023 12:14 PM

The whole world mourned her death

Oh, please..

and I was picking my nose when I heard

by Anonymousreply 6May 23, 2023 12:16 PM

I was 15, so I was probably masturbating to some male underwear catalog.

by Anonymousreply 7May 23, 2023 12:17 PM

Maurice Tempelsman is still alive at 93.

by Anonymousreply 8May 23, 2023 12:20 PM

I was living on the Upper East Side. I walked past her building on the Central Park side of Fifth Avenue.

by Anonymousreply 9May 23, 2023 12:20 PM

Putting the voodoo doll away.

by Anonymousreply 10May 23, 2023 12:22 PM

I was here in hell, waiting the bitch's arrival so I could personally throw her into the lake of fire!

Oh, those deliciously piercing screams of agony! Music to my ears!

by Anonymousreply 11May 23, 2023 12:23 PM

I was at the corner of 59th and Second, eating a Reuben sandwich and drinking an egg crème. I was wearing a t shirt with Gary Coleman on it. My companion? A dachshund named Merv.

by Anonymousreply 12May 23, 2023 12:24 PM

Playing with a Bart Simpson doll in Kindergarten.

by Anonymousreply 13May 23, 2023 12:26 PM

It's weird to think she was only 64. She seemed like she had been around and in the news forever. She was the queen of tabloids before being unseated by Princess Diana. I always forget she was so young when Kennedy was killed.

by Anonymousreply 14May 23, 2023 12:36 PM

I was at the Piggly Wiggly when Gary, the store manager, interrupted Herb Alpert's version of "The Girl From Ipanema" to make the announcement over the intercom. A hush fell over the entire market. I hear someone from the next aisle over whisper about her climbing on the back of the limo to retrieve that piece of JFK's skull.

I hurried over to aisle 8 and dented a few cans of Libby's baby carrots and Del Monte sweet peas in her memory.

by Anonymousreply 15May 23, 2023 12:53 PM

My day nurse had just helped me into my favorite wicker chair on the front porch of the main house at the compound so I could enjoy the crisp ocean air when word came from my granddaughter Caroline that Jackie had passed on.

by Anonymousreply 16May 23, 2023 1:17 PM

R11 I, too, was a fresh arrival in hell.

by Anonymousreply 17May 23, 2023 1:39 PM

The sky was so blue that day.

by Anonymousreply 18May 23, 2023 1:49 PM

It was, r18, it was!

by Anonymousreply 19May 23, 2023 1:51 PM

My roommate was either watching the news and Peter Jennings reported it or there was a special announcement. I don't remember, which but I do remember feeling like a moment in history had just taken place. I also felt a twinge of sadness. I was 3 when JFK was assassinated. Jackie definitely was like American royalty or something. No matter what, she was a part of the national life for decades.

by Anonymousreply 20May 23, 2023 1:51 PM

She was the end of when adults acted and dressed like adults.

by Anonymousreply 21May 23, 2023 1:52 PM

It's all been said, the good and, more so, the bad, about Edward Kennedy, but still, I give him his due credit.

The man could write, and deliver, a compelling eulogy. Those he gave for Jackie O and JFK, Jr. were very moving.

Of course, by then, he'd had a bit of practice at them.

I tried to find audios of both of them but, apparently, I didn't look hard enough.

by Anonymousreply 22May 23, 2023 1:59 PM

Where will we be when they announce Melania's death?

by Anonymousreply 23May 23, 2023 2:04 PM

I remember when she died. I don’t recall it being a huge media event—even by the standards of the era.

My memory might be faulty, but I don’t even recall people at work talking about her or her passing. (And my colleagues tended to be news junkies, just like me.)

by Anonymousreply 24May 23, 2023 2:21 PM

I was in Malta on 19th May 1994, It was a week after my 26th birthday. I think we were there for the whole of May that year.

The leader of the UK Labour Party John Smith had dropped dead on my birthday, Tony Blair became the leader after.

by Anonymousreply 25May 23, 2023 2:24 PM

I was at work the day the widow Kennedy-Onassis died. Honestly I was a little sad about it, since I grew up admiring the president and his family, as many people were of that era. What I remember most is John Jr. describing how she was surrounded by her family and her books and the things she loved when she died.

by Anonymousreply 26May 23, 2023 2:33 PM

I was in 7th grade when President Kennedy was assasinated. So, grew up aware of Jackie, her marriage to Onassis, she was always in the news to some degree. Don't remember what I was doing that day. I do remember getting the news that John had died in the plane crash. I remember thinking, I was glad she had died before him and was spared that. Then laughed at myself, that was something right out of my long dead mother's head.

by Anonymousreply 27May 23, 2023 2:37 PM

R24 is either extremely senile or incredibly stupid, since her death was a huge news story at the time for several days.

by Anonymousreply 28May 23, 2023 3:14 PM

I was 7 when Cleopatra died. It was all over the news.

by Anonymousreply 29May 23, 2023 3:15 PM

I was in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963 and witnessed JFK’s assassination.

by Anonymousreply 30May 23, 2023 3:21 PM

R20 I remember watching one of the morning shows (I think it was TODAY, as that was my show of choice) when they broke in early in the morning saying they had heard Jackie was on her deathbed, and she had a steady stream of visitors to her apartment throughout the night (Carly Simon was one of them). They broke in when the Cardinal from St. Patrick's Cathedral had visited to give her the Last Rites of the Catholic Church. By then, a crowd had gathered - media reporters and 'fans'. I was then changing through the channels to the other morning shows, and they had the same coverage. There weren't any commercials, from what I recall - and those gathered on the street were crying and bringing flowers.

Then they kept breaking in with news that they had heard she had indeed passed away, and were waiting for an official word - JFK Jr came out to address the crowd which was getting bigger and bigger on Fifth Ave. All day long and into the evening news, it was covered by the media. President Clinton and his wife quickly made a statement, as did the former President Bush and his wife, and Nancy Reagan.

It was a very big deal in America and around the world, being the global socialite that she was.

To think within five years two other world cultural icons would pass away - Princess Diana, and JFK, Jr.

by Anonymousreply 31May 23, 2023 3:31 PM

Spring of 1994 was great for news junkies.

Nixon died in April, Jackie died in May and O. J. committed double murder in June.

by Anonymousreply 32May 23, 2023 4:10 PM

I was working, as an administrative assistant. I was miserable. I was 29 and looking back, I was in great shape.

I lost the war with gravity.

by Anonymousreply 33May 23, 2023 4:12 PM

I was in Venice kissing the love of my life in San Marco.

by Anonymousreply 34May 23, 2023 4:39 PM

[quote] Probably one of the toughest things he ever had to do in his adult life.

Not tougher than watching his mother waste away and suffer with cancer. As painful as it was for me, I experienced a sense of relief that my mother was no longer in pain.

by Anonymousreply 35May 23, 2023 4:40 PM

R35, Jackie did not waste away or suffer thanks to the morphine drip she demanded from her doctors.

She died 48 hours after being released from the hospital and one last walk in Central Park with Maurice.

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by Anonymousreply 36May 23, 2023 11:01 PM

At the bank, why, OP?

by Anonymousreply 37May 23, 2023 11:32 PM

64 doesn’t seem that old anymore.

by Anonymousreply 38May 23, 2023 11:41 PM

I was in grade 7

by Anonymousreply 39May 23, 2023 11:46 PM

OP, are you joking? Jackie on Assistance was a money-worshiping trophy wife. Class my foot.

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by Anonymousreply 40May 23, 2023 11:56 PM

R30 is a fraud and impostor who should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I was the attending on duty desperately trying to revive her. I was 5. It was a Doogie Howser type situation.

by Anonymousreply 41May 24, 2023 12:04 AM

^...and 29 years ago I was temping as a secretary after college because the economy was shit.

Can't stand all the Jackie worship on DL. She gets no credit with me for her so-called style and grace and fuck-all elegance. She grew up with and around money. Of course she knew how to dress and do her hair. So what? Show me someone who grew up in Appalachia and learned manners and taste through careful observation and intelligence, then I'll be impressed.

by Anonymousreply 42May 24, 2023 12:09 AM

I always thought she was ugly who decided she was so elegant?

by Anonymousreply 43May 24, 2023 12:12 AM

She lived at 1040 Fifth Ave. (between E. 85th and E. 86th St., less than 2 blocks from the Met musuem), not on Park Ave.

by Anonymousreply 44May 24, 2023 12:12 AM

I had barely recovered from Princess Diana’s death when zu heard the new. It was almost too much.

by Anonymousreply 45May 24, 2023 12:18 AM

R31, The cardinal, who was John J. O'Connor at the time (he of the ugly visage), did not give Jacqueline Onassis the Last Rites of the Catholic Church. It was a priest from her parish church, St. Thomas More, on E. 89th St. I believe his name was Msgr. Georges Barthe (or something very similar)

by Anonymousreply 46May 24, 2023 12:24 AM


by Anonymousreply 47May 24, 2023 12:25 AM

R44, Candice Bergen lives in that building now.

by Anonymousreply 48May 24, 2023 12:47 AM

R24, your memory wasn't faulty. I was very surprised that it wasn't bigger news at the time. No one talked about it and it soon left the news.

- R20

by Anonymousreply 49May 24, 2023 1:17 AM

^ It was HUGE news.

by Anonymousreply 50May 24, 2023 1:34 AM

I think it was pretty big news, guys.

by Anonymousreply 51May 24, 2023 1:37 AM

OP being married to Carolyn Bessette hound was the toughest thing he ever did and his second biggest mistake

by Anonymousreply 52May 24, 2023 1:42 AM

R49 is an absolute moron.

by Anonymousreply 53May 24, 2023 1:44 AM

I was in fifth grade and my class had a field trip to the Met and South Street Seaport. We were late to the museum because a huge portion of Fifth Avenue was blocked off and the bus driver had to go west and down southern Manhattan(I remember going past the Twin Towers) and back up. All I remember was long down the street and seeing a bunch of commotion by the building with the awning. All the news vans were there and NYPD had those blue wood barricades up. I didn’t find out until I got home and the local stations were showing wall to wall coverage and there was a shot of the awning.

by Anonymousreply 54May 24, 2023 1:44 AM

You seem like a very lovely person, R53.

by Anonymousreply 55May 24, 2023 2:10 AM

I remember “surrounded by family, friends, and her books.” No recollection of where I was. John John’s death I recall because it was during summer and I was at the Cape with a boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 56May 24, 2023 2:40 AM

I remember my elementary school English teacher interrupting class to announce her death.

by Anonymousreply 57May 24, 2023 3:13 AM

Weird to think Jackie and Diana died only 3 years apart.

by Anonymousreply 58May 24, 2023 3:18 AM

R36, this is her on the day she died?!?!

by Anonymousreply 59May 24, 2023 3:21 AM

In college. 20 years old. Hanging with my boyfriend, who was a decade older. He read into some of JFK Jr'.s words about Jackie "dying on her own terms" (I'm paraphrasing) and theorized that Jackie had committed suicide, perhaps with some assistance.

by Anonymousreply 60May 24, 2023 3:24 AM

Home with my kids who were 5 and 2yrs old. My girlfriend called and said turn it to CNN. I honestly felt bad, but not as bad as when John Jr died in that plane crash. I really did feel bad about that.

by Anonymousreply 61May 24, 2023 3:27 AM

I didn't give one fuck about Jackie O and I changed the station.

by Anonymousreply 62May 24, 2023 3:30 AM

R36 Since she died, there have been stories that her death was that of assisted suicide. That is what she wanted, and the Church and her family granted her wishes.

by Anonymousreply 63May 24, 2023 3:40 AM

I have no idea. I was probably drunk or doing coke -making a lackluster post-college effort in life. I didn't think about Jackie much back then so I probably didn't know for days after she died. I remember thinking John John was hot so I would have paid attention for that reason if I saw him on the news or in a magazine. There was a great thread last night where an insider or someone very well read into all things Jackie, likened her to a street fighter who went to Miss Porter's.

by Anonymousreply 64May 24, 2023 3:48 AM

As previously noted, Jackie requested and was granted a morphine drip to hasten her death once her doctors told her there was nothing more they could do for her.

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by Anonymousreply 65May 24, 2023 4:53 AM

I was almost born. I was born May 25, 1994.

by Anonymousreply 66May 24, 2023 6:11 AM

I was but a young child. Still can't believe someone so stuffy, with an uninteresting personality, and such an ugly voice is so fawned over.

by Anonymousreply 67May 24, 2023 6:22 AM

I was 2.

by Anonymousreply 68May 24, 2023 6:24 AM

I was living my best quarter in junior college, about 6 months before graduating. I had Honors Sociology, Intro Philosophy, Victorian Literature, Poetry. It was the first quarter I got all A’s. My earlier classes were with all my Lit friends, then Sociology was a GE class where I knew no one, most of the class were Nursing students. Philosophy was my last class & the room was always hot & I’d be a sweaty mess by the time I got out at 1:20. I had Fridays off, so 3-day weekends every week! My sister was at our sister JC, studying to be a respiratory therapist, & a few times during this period I wrote her GenEd/English papers for her, since I was an English major & had a lighter schedule. I vividly remember our Mom wanting me to help her & overlooked the cheating aspect.

The Stephen King miniseries The Stand was broadcast around this time & it made a huge impression on me. I’d read the novel almost a year prior, right as Hantavirus was discovered, & I’d thought it was the book coming to life & had been really dejected for a bit. Seeing the miniseries, on the other hand, was quite rapturous. I watched it again during the lockdown, 25+ yrs later, & it didn’t move me so deeply.

by Anonymousreply 69May 24, 2023 7:01 AM


by Anonymousreply 70May 24, 2023 7:02 AM

I have no idea. Probably rushing through my homework so I could watch the Power Rangers or something on Kids WB. Who knows?

by Anonymousreply 71May 24, 2023 8:24 AM

R32, if you were a 14 year old teenager in spring 1994, the only death that mattered was Cobain's!

by Anonymousreply 72May 24, 2023 8:30 AM

R63, what was she suffering from?

Was Jackie Catholic? Shocked she died via suicide

by Anonymousreply 73May 24, 2023 9:01 AM

I remember the day vividly. Ahh spring of 1994. Wish I had a time travel machine

by Anonymousreply 74May 24, 2023 9:02 AM

Her smile reminds me of these small hairy dogs

by Anonymousreply 75May 24, 2023 9:07 AM

Rose Kennedy was never told of Jackie's death r16, it was thought better to keep it from her.

by Anonymousreply 76May 24, 2023 9:13 AM

Was Jackie Catholic? Shocked she died via suicide

God's word changes for those of means and influence.

by Anonymousreply 77May 24, 2023 9:15 AM

If Jackie O wasn't such a heavy smoker she might still be with us.

by Anonymousreply 78May 24, 2023 9:15 AM

Passed out

by Anonymousreply 79May 24, 2023 9:15 AM

I was in the next room writing everything down, preparing to betray my very private friend some decades down the track.

by Anonymousreply 80May 24, 2023 9:17 AM

John John's press release seemed unnatural, I bet Jackie wrote it herself in anticipation. It was too poetical and romantic and intelligent for jnr, and it seemed staged. He was also smirking in and arrogant way that said he liked the attention and wasn't that upset by his mother's passing.

by Anonymousreply 81May 24, 2023 9:22 AM

[quote] If Jackie O wasn't such a heavy smoker she might still be with us.

R78 Do your homework, Marylou. She died from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, which has nothing to do with smoking.

by Anonymousreply 82May 24, 2023 9:22 AM

r82 but it could have had something to do with dying her hair so much for so long

by Anonymousreply 83May 24, 2023 9:23 AM

I was in her library, rocking back and forth

by Anonymousreply 84May 24, 2023 9:25 AM

Smoking increases the risk of ALL cancers. I thought everyone - at least here - knew that.

by Anonymousreply 85May 24, 2023 9:27 AM

R85 also glans cancer?

by Anonymousreply 86May 24, 2023 9:28 AM

Check out smoking as a risk factor for leukemia.

by Anonymousreply 87May 24, 2023 9:29 AM

Who's Jackie Kennedy Onassis?

by Anonymousreply 88May 24, 2023 9:37 AM

R83, Jackie began going gray very early and had been coloring her hair since the early 1950s when dyes were more primitive than today.

by Anonymousreply 89May 24, 2023 9:39 AM

r89 yes, and they think something in the old hair colors could have contributed to her cancer and that of other womens'. NHL can be caused from chemicals. A lot of elderly famers get it from pesticides.

by Anonymousreply 90May 24, 2023 9:43 AM

R24, Jackie’s illness and terminal status were well known. It was a big news story because she was very famous, but no one was shocked by it unless they were living under a rock. That’s why it did not have (and does not have in memory) the impact of a death seemingly out of nowhere, like JFK, Jr, Diana or Michael Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 91May 24, 2023 10:11 AM

R77, it’s not suicide if medication administered to stop pain and keep the patient comfortable also happens to hasten death when death is imminent anyway.

by Anonymousreply 92May 24, 2023 10:14 AM

[quote] It's all been said, the good and, more so, the bad, about Edward Kennedy, but still, I give him his due credit. The man could write, and deliver, a compelling eulogy. Those he gave for Jackie O and JFK, Jr. were very moving.

Ted didn't write either of the eulogies. Nor did he write the one he delivered for Bobby.

by Anonymousreply 93May 24, 2023 10:28 AM

R91, Yes, it was known that Jackie was very ill, so her death was not a shock, nor was Farrah Fawcett’s.

But, was Michael Jackson’s death a shock to anyone?

His days were numbered, much like Whitney Houston and Amy Winehouse.

by Anonymousreply 94May 24, 2023 10:54 AM

"The whole world mourned her death, as she was the epitome of class and grace."

I honestly did not give a shit when she died.

I'm sure I had a moment of thinking, "Cancer. Sad." But that was about it.

by Anonymousreply 95May 24, 2023 11:14 AM

[quote] Ted didn't write either of the eulogies. Nor did he write the one he delivered for Bobby.

You seem to be sure of that.

Yes, I know that a US Senator, especially a wealthy one, would have very good writers on their staff, or, at their immediate service.

Still, I'll stick with my observation at r22. Both eulogies had the ring of someone who knew both Jackie O and JFK, Jr very well and commons sense tells me that he had to have contributed a great deal of the content.

by Anonymousreply 96May 24, 2023 11:25 AM

R60, now I finally know what "Jackie on Assistance" means!


by Anonymousreply 97May 24, 2023 12:34 PM

[quote]it’s not suicide if medication administered to stop pain and keep the patient comfortable also happens to hasten death when death is imminent anyway.

No, that is called palliative care. That is usually done via hospice care - which Jackie was not on.

In Jackie's case, it came out later (after her death) that her life could have been prolonged if she stayed under doctor's care and had treatment. She was diagnosed early on, in January, 1994 - so her survival rate was better than most.

Four months in, she chose to stop all treatment, she chose not to stay under doctor's care, and opted for 'assisted suicide' instead - not to linger with the illness, but to return home and die with dignity (not in a hospital or hospice). She did one last photo shoot walking via Central Park with her beau just days before her death, so the world would remember her that way and not 'gravely ill'. Everything was well-planned and orchestrated by her.

by Anonymousreply 98May 24, 2023 2:55 PM

Having an incredibly raunchy night of sex with my then-best friend, who was a total preppy nerd.

by Anonymousreply 99May 24, 2023 3:01 PM

R98, This was the last walk with Maurice, not the photo at R36.

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by Anonymousreply 100May 24, 2023 3:30 PM

R100 Yes, that is what she wanted. Strolling through the park on a spring day with Maurice just a couple of days before she died. She didn't want pictures of her frail and hunched in a wheel chair, she didn't want to be photographed on a stretcher hooked up to machines being taken away by rescue - she had this all planned, and rather well. She looks pretty good in those photos for someone who was going to die in a few days - she didn't exactly look like she was suffering or at 'death's door'. However, from what was said over the years - that is when she decided to end her life. She didn't want to wait until she was in terminal pain and frail, grasping for her last breath. She died with dignity.

My guess is if she didn't have the assisted suicide on May 19, she probably could've lasted until mid-summer without treatment / medication. Just days before, she was still mobile and able to walk through the park.

by Anonymousreply 101May 24, 2023 4:20 PM

R101, Barbara Bush was another FLOTUS who decided to stop all treatment, be discharged from the hospital and die peacefully at home in a matter of days.

by Anonymousreply 102May 24, 2023 4:38 PM

It was 1994 and I was working in banking, standing on my feet all day. I barely noticed that Jackie passed.

by Anonymousreply 103May 24, 2023 4:46 PM

Around the time of Jackie’s death, I was going through a serious rift with a good friend who was also a coworker. This took my mind off of my problems for a while. My boss was an attorney for a government agency and she told me all about the Kennedys and how shady they were, especially Jackie. Forever changed my perspective on them.

by Anonymousreply 104May 24, 2023 5:39 PM

R104…. Well, spill that tea!

by Anonymousreply 105May 24, 2023 6:13 PM

R104, Jackie had very little to do with the inner workings of the Kennedy family from 1953 to 1963, and almost none at all after Bobby was murdered in 1968.

by Anonymousreply 106May 24, 2023 7:07 PM

R96, I don’t question that Ted Kennedy would have contributed his thoughts for each of the eulogies, but the writing was left to the professionals.

by Anonymousreply 107May 24, 2023 7:20 PM

But she was no saint herself, was she? A greedy, snobbish gold digger who bullied her son into law school because she didn’t want him to be an actor.

by Anonymousreply 108May 24, 2023 7:21 PM

I was 11.

by Anonymousreply 109May 24, 2023 7:32 PM

R108, Jackie knew full well that JFK, Jr. needed direction in life and without it he was prone to making poor choices.

Without her guidance, he made serious mistakes, like George Magazine, marrying Carolyn and worst of all, resuming the flying lessons.

by Anonymousreply 110May 24, 2023 9:42 PM

R108, I have to say, most parents would steer their kids away from an acting career. It’s the rare parent that would wholeheartedly endorse it.

by Anonymousreply 111May 24, 2023 9:53 PM

R98, She had brain and liver mets. Her days were numbered even with treatment. Some cancer patients choose to stop all treatment when the prognosis for survival with quality of life is minimal or nonexistent. Yes, it’s true they often enter hospice care, but someone as rich and prominent as Jackie could buy the equivalent of hospice care without having to make that formal designation, with its grim tone.

Before she died, everyone (who followed celebrity news) knew that she had been given a terminal diagnosis, had chosen to forego further treatment, and had gone home to die.

I guess you can argue the fine point of when palliative care becomes assisted suicide, but I think it blurs an important distinction to say that those who are dying of cancer – i.e. death is likely to come relatively soon – are “committing suicide” when they knowingly ask for and receive calming and pain-relieving drugs that also shorten life.

by Anonymousreply 112May 24, 2023 10:40 PM

But she said she didn’t want John to become “a fruit”. And she was friends with more than one gay man…

by Anonymousreply 113May 24, 2023 10:41 PM

R113, Jackie was born in 1929. Very few parents of that generation would enjoy the idea of their child being homosexual, no matter how tolerant their attitude was toward adults not in their own families.

by Anonymousreply 114May 24, 2023 10:53 PM

R98 is full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 115May 24, 2023 11:28 PM

I cried and cried and cried.

by Anonymousreply 116May 24, 2023 11:37 PM

We should have an elder gays only DL section. Where we can discuss things of importance to men of our age. I don't have any reason to be socializing online or in person with anyone who wasn't alive at the same time as Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onassis. Maybe break things out by decades. The young guns can talk about Harry Styles or whatever they are into. I am older now and don't care to follow the new guard.

by Anonymousreply 117May 25, 2023 2:47 PM
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