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The Lucille Ball Gary Morton Thread

Let’s discuss these two crazy kids.

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by Anonymousreply 193June 4, 2023 5:09 PM

He was satan.

Isolated her from her old friends.

Incredibly controlling.

One of just a couple folks Carole Cook couldn’t stand, and she has a kind word about everyone.

by Anonymousreply 1May 19, 2023 5:31 PM

But he learned to love the bitch r1!

by Anonymousreply 2May 19, 2023 5:32 PM

Lucille looking snatched at OP's pic!

by Anonymousreply 3May 19, 2023 5:49 PM

Aw,,,..young love

What a lovely young woman she is...

by Anonymousreply 4May 19, 2023 6:14 PM

Gary was one of the great sages in Hollywood, Lucy owes the last twenty-five years of her career to him. He talked her out of several 'risky' and 'risque' project that would have tarnished her image. He steered the ship!

by Anonymousreply 5May 19, 2023 7:37 PM

R5 Which risqué projects?

by Anonymousreply 6May 19, 2023 7:44 PM

R6, Dressed to Kill (the Angie Dickinson part!), The Graduate (Mrs. Robinson), Don't Look Now (the Julie Christie role) just off the top of my head and there were others...I know he also talked Lucie out of doing Body Heat (the Kathleen Turner role)

by Anonymousreply 7May 19, 2023 7:52 PM

R7 Wow never knew that

by Anonymousreply 8May 19, 2023 7:54 PM

Vivian Vance was neighbors with Eileen Heckert in Connecticut in the 1960s. In his bio of his mother, Just Outside the Spotlight: Growing up with Eileen Heckart, Luke Yankee talks about a night his parents visited Vivian and her husband John Dodds; Lucille and Gary were visiting as well. Lucille had too much to drink and at one point turned to Eileen and said, "Who the fuck knows Eileen Heckert? I could make you a household name!"

Elieen responded that she would have to move to the West Coast, and her husband worked in Connecticut.

Gesturing across the room at Eileen's husband, Lucille replied, "So we'll make him an executive at Desilu. Husbands are expendable!" At that point, Eileen and her husband left.

The next day, Vivian called Eileen very apologetic for Lucille's behavior.

by Anonymousreply 9May 19, 2023 7:59 PM

I was watching Postcards from the Edge on TCM last week and forgot that Gary had a small role as Meryl's manager in it.

by Anonymousreply 10May 19, 2023 8:04 PM

Every morning Lucy would burnish up Gary's skin with Lemon Pledge.

by Anonymousreply 11May 19, 2023 8:06 PM

R8, they’re joking.

by Anonymousreply 12May 19, 2023 8:53 PM

Gary may have been difficult, but his prudence saved Lucy’s legacy over and over.

Lucy would have made a questionable Klute, but only Gary Morton was telling her no at a time when she was surrounded by nothing but yes men.

by Anonymousreply 13May 19, 2023 8:53 PM

Lucie Arnaz said that she doubted there was much passion between Lucy and Gary.

by Anonymousreply 14May 19, 2023 8:54 PM

Gary Morton could at times be too cautious. I, for one, would like to have seen Lucy’s interpretation of Cap’n Quint, the role in Jaws that eventually went to Robert Shaw after Gary’s meddling finally broke down negotiations with Spielberg.

by Anonymousreply 15May 19, 2023 9:04 PM

Lucy was also the producers first choice for Marlon Brando's role in "Last Tango in Paris"

by Anonymousreply 16May 19, 2023 9:41 PM

Producers were really hoping Lucy would agree to play Sandy in Grease. Lucy was excited by the part and the chance to play opposite John Travolta. But well, as you know, Gary talked her out of it. So, Olivia Newton John stepped instead.

by Anonymousreply 17May 19, 2023 10:00 PM

She's a mess.

by Anonymousreply 18May 19, 2023 10:15 PM

Lucy was supposed to be part of the moon landing, but guess who put a damper on that…

by Anonymousreply 19May 19, 2023 10:22 PM

What about the time Gary talked her out of doing “Deep Throat”?

by Anonymousreply 20May 19, 2023 10:25 PM

Lucy was set to play the Drew Barrymore part in ET: the Extra-Terrestrial, but Gary talked her out of it.

by Anonymousreply 21May 19, 2023 11:09 PM

Lucy was set to play Mame Dennis, but ...

by Anonymousreply 22May 19, 2023 11:27 PM

He was 13 years younger than Lucy and signed a prenup to prove he wasn't a gold digger.

by Anonymousreply 23May 19, 2023 11:35 PM

Long over due thread, OP. I’ve had a terrible day and this perked me right up.

by Anonymousreply 24May 19, 2023 11:38 PM

They and that photo all look so...ambitious and angst-filled.

by Anonymousreply 25May 19, 2023 11:46 PM

Lucy was hoping to find a new generation of fans when she signed on to play Princess Lea in the first Star Wars movie. But, you know, Gary did that thing he does.

by Anonymousreply 26May 19, 2023 11:47 PM

I'll bet they never asked Lucy to pose for the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, did they?

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by Anonymousreply 28May 20, 2023 12:50 AM

Lucy loved Desi and cigarettes more than Gary.

by Anonymousreply 29May 20, 2023 12:56 AM

Lucy trained for over a month in preparation for working on The Deep with Nick Nolte. Eventually Gary talked her out of it and the part went to Jacqueline Bisset. But at least she earned her scuba certification, and in later years would volunteer with the Coast Guard search and rescue team as her schedule permitted.

by Anonymousreply 30May 20, 2023 1:02 AM

God I love DL

by Anonymousreply 31May 20, 2023 1:06 AM

Lucille was slated for the female lead in "Basic Instinct" but then she died and the role wss then given to Sharon Stone. Gary was relieved he didn't havs to talk her our of it.

by Anonymousreply 32May 20, 2023 1:18 AM

I'm Gary's wig hat.

by Anonymousreply 33May 20, 2023 1:35 AM

But he didn’t talk her out of MAIM.

by Anonymousreply 34May 20, 2023 1:40 AM

At a dinner in the early 1970’s, author Alex Haley discussed the television adaptation of his book Roots and said he wrote it with Lucy in mind for several of the lead roles but Gary talked her out of it.

by Anonymousreply 35May 20, 2023 1:52 AM

Cunta Kinte

by Anonymousreply 36May 20, 2023 6:14 AM

Gary also didn't talk her out of Star Trek. Probably because neither really understood what it was about

by Anonymousreply 37May 20, 2023 6:32 AM

Lucy would have been great in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, but Liz and Dick talked her out of it

by Anonymousreply 38May 20, 2023 6:37 AM

Lucille called the shots. She used Gary as an excuse to turn down offers. (It’s just a hunch.)

by Anonymousreply 39May 20, 2023 6:56 AM

Lucy treated everyone like an employee including her husband

by Anonymousreply 40May 20, 2023 7:33 AM

Gary Morton married a golfer after Lucy died but there is not a single picture of them together.

by Anonymousreply 41May 20, 2023 8:00 AM

R9 I love to think about Heckhart's eventual Academy Award win in 1973, after reading that.

by Anonymousreply 42May 20, 2023 8:52 AM

Lucy felt entitled. No one wants to be around that kind of gal.

by Anonymousreply 43May 20, 2023 8:59 AM

The one time Gary should have talked Lucy out of it...

"Actually Burton, appalled as he was by Lucy’s insistence on giving him line readings, acted like a gentleman for most of the week. He complimented Gale Gordon and expressed sympathy for the second banana, Cliff Norton. That comedian was indignant because Gary Morton had tried to cut his salary—the Burtons had consumed too much of the budget, he said. Only once did Burton become irascible, and then he did it privately, advising director Jerry Paris to warn Lucy that if she tried to pull any rank on Elizabeth “she would see, in person, what a Thousand Megaton Hydrogen Bomb does when the warhead is attached and exploded.”

by Anonymousreply 44May 20, 2023 12:53 PM

R14 This was a companionship marriage, not a passionate one -- like they are for many older ladies.

by Anonymousreply 45May 20, 2023 1:01 PM

The time Desi tried to talk Lucy out of Mame...

"All these years, Lucy had relied on Desi’s advice, but this time when he told her to pass on the role she ignored him"

Where's Gary when you need him 😠

by Anonymousreply 46May 20, 2023 1:15 PM

I'm so glad that Mr Morton was able to talk Lucy out if taking the role of Kizzy in A Haley's ROOTS. That guy had great instincts! Imean - can you imagine?

by Anonymousreply 47May 20, 2023 1:20 PM

I heard they had a fight in their hotel room and Gary locked her out of it.

by Anonymousreply 48May 20, 2023 1:28 PM

Sorry to inject some reality into this thread but sadly, few people remember Gary's performance in "Lenny" where he played Milton Berle. He was really, really good.

by Anonymousreply 49May 20, 2023 1:36 PM

^ As mentioned above he was good in "Postcards". Unfortunately Gary was happy being a lazy gigolo who'd rather play golf than act

by Anonymousreply 50May 20, 2023 1:40 PM

R49 R50 Morton was probably a much better actor than comedian. Of course, those noted parts probable weren't too much a stretch from his real self.

by Anonymousreply 51May 20, 2023 1:51 PM

Gary Morton certainly was tanned.

by Anonymousreply 52May 20, 2023 2:53 PM

Did he really pimp off of Lucy though?

by Anonymousreply 53May 20, 2023 3:47 PM

Barbara Walters interview with Lucy and Gary.

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by Anonymousreply 54May 20, 2023 7:39 PM

[quote]Dolly Pardon

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 55May 20, 2023 7:46 PM

The first time they had sex, Lucille reportedly explained, "You call THAT hung?!"

by Anonymousreply 56May 20, 2023 8:02 PM

[quote]Dressed to Kill (the Angie Dickinson part!), The Graduate (Mrs. Robinson), Don't Look Now (the Julie Christie role) just off the top of my head and there were others...I know he also talked Lucie out of doing Body Heat (the Kathleen Turner role).

I know everyone’s riffing on this comment, but a sincere “thank you” to Gary for preventing 4 great films to be ruined.

by Anonymousreply 57May 20, 2023 8:03 PM

I can kind of see her in the Mrs. Robinson part.

by Anonymousreply 58May 20, 2023 8:06 PM

Wasn't slutty Lucy engaged to another man before hooking up with Desi?

by Anonymousreply 59May 20, 2023 8:06 PM

Pre-Desi, they pulled more babies out of her than a burning orphanage.

by Anonymousreply 60May 20, 2023 8:09 PM

Lucy was originally cast opposite Hayley Mills as the cool American twin in “The Parent Trap,” but of course evil Gary struck again.

by Anonymousreply 61May 20, 2023 8:16 PM

Gary did allow her to do "Stone Pillow."

by Anonymousreply 62May 20, 2023 8:20 PM

@r59, "Wasn't slutty Lucy engaged to another man before hooking up with Desi? "

"Yet Ball also was not faithful, as she engaged in affairs with others, including the Oscar-winning star Henry Fonda.

“She started out as ‘the Jamestown Hussy’ [a nickname] at 16,” said Porter, referring to Ball’s years going up in upstate New York. “Lucille really liked men. She’d say, ‘I’m always falling in love, I can’t help myself.’ ”

Ball is said to have had a voracious sexual appetite, and she enjoyed having affairs with others to get back at Arnaz for his dalliances.

Ultimately, affairs and distrust defined the marriage between Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz.

Ball even filed for divorce from Arnaz in 1944, but he was able to get her to change her mind.

“He knew the way to prevent the divorce would be to go home and throw her into bed,” said Porter. “They had their mad love affair, and sex had a great deal to do with their relationship.

Ball would later bragged to their “I Love Lucy” co-stars Vivian Vance and William Frawley about their “great sex. She always bragged on her Cuban stud. And he thought she was a ‘hot little number.’”

Lucy sounds like a Gay man trapped in a woman's body 😏

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by Anonymousreply 63May 20, 2023 8:37 PM

[quote]Lucy was originally cast opposite Hayley Mills as the cool American twin in “The Parent Trap,” but of course evil Gary struck again.

Lucy wasn't naturally funny and had little self-awareness of what audiences expected from her...

She also wanted to play Patty Duke's British cousin Cathy on "The Patty Duke Show"...

As Lucy said, "We'll just use a little more Vaseline on the lens and some extra surgical tape and clips under my wig - I can't easily pass for a teenager!"

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by Anonymousreply 64May 20, 2023 8:38 PM

R63, Darwin Porter cut salacious stories from whole cloth.

by Anonymousreply 65May 20, 2023 8:52 PM

I don't for a second believe that Lucy ever cheated on Desi. She was far too traditional and conservative.

by Anonymousreply 66May 20, 2023 9:00 PM

Too bad that Gary didn't talk Lucy out of that piss poor last sitcom. They didn't even air all of the episodes.

by Anonymousreply 67May 20, 2023 9:01 PM

[quote] I don't for a second believe that Lucy ever cheated on Desi. She was far too traditional and conservative.

Traditional and conservative people cheat all the time. Just like how celebrities get plastic surgery all the time.

by Anonymousreply 68May 20, 2023 9:02 PM

^ Exactly, Lucy sounds like a card-carrying, two-faced Republican

by Anonymousreply 69May 20, 2023 9:09 PM

Something else I read that right before he married Lucy, Desi took Ginger Rogers to Canada for a late-term abortion 😳

Hollywood is just trailer-trash with money

by Anonymousreply 70May 20, 2023 9:11 PM

I wonder if Lucy missed that juicy Cuban pinga?

by Anonymousreply 71May 20, 2023 9:21 PM

Lucy was the last person Desi talked to before he died. They never stopped loving each other

by Anonymousreply 72May 20, 2023 9:27 PM

r72 = Aaron Sorkin

by Anonymousreply 73May 20, 2023 9:47 PM

^ Aaron Sorkin could never write so consisely or coherently...

by Anonymousreply 74May 20, 2023 9:49 PM

I'm not Aaron Sorkin

- r72

by Anonymousreply 75May 20, 2023 9:53 PM

[quote]The first time they had sex, Lucille reportedly *explained,* "You call THAT hung?!"

Doesn't seem like the sort of remark that would require a lot of explanation.

by Anonymousreply 76May 20, 2023 9:58 PM

Oh, dear myself r76

by Anonymousreply 77May 20, 2023 10:02 PM

R56 Lucy actually put her cigarette out on the tip.

by Anonymousreply 78May 20, 2023 10:20 PM

I don't know if it's in that Roast clip above......but I liked it when one of the comics said:

"Gary brought something to Lucy's life that she never had with Desi......Boredom!"

by Anonymousreply 79May 20, 2023 10:43 PM

[quote] I can kind of see her in the Mrs. Robinson part.

Really? I can’t imagine her trying to seduce Dustin Hoffman in that raspy, ashtray voice of hers. Yuck.

by Anonymousreply 80May 20, 2023 10:50 PM

Originally, the part of Carol Anne in Poltergeist was to be played by Lucy as a loony, kooky Grandma if the family. Unfortunately, she lost the role when Gary insisted to the producers that the famous "They're HEEEeeere" line be replaced with "HeeeEERE'S LUCY!"

by Anonymousreply 81May 20, 2023 11:01 PM

[quote]Ball even filed for divorce from Arnaz in 1944, but he was able to get her to change her mind.

So Gary wasn't the only one who could talk her out of things.

by Anonymousreply 82May 20, 2023 11:02 PM

I think Vivian Vance would have been a better Mrs. Robinson than both Lucy and Anne Bancroft.

by Anonymousreply 83May 20, 2023 11:08 PM

@r82, Lucy loved any man who could talk her out of her panties

by Anonymousreply 84May 20, 2023 11:09 PM

Or woman, r84

by Anonymousreply 85May 20, 2023 11:12 PM

[quote] Really? I can’t imagine her trying to seduce Dustin Hoffman in that raspy, ashtray voice of hers. Yuck.

The relationship between Mrs. Robinson and Benjamin was supposed to have been sordid and shameful. Even though Benjamin said that being with Mrs. R was something he looked forward to. Hence, IMO, I think Lucille Ball could have played that part -- broken-down woman getting down-low action from close friends' son. I can see her being married to the "Plastics" guy (Murray Hamilton, Mr. Robinson).

by Anonymousreply 86May 20, 2023 11:12 PM

Lucy was fucking amazing in the original Planet of the Apes as Reverend Minerva, the simian spiritual leader. She really brought across the character’s combination of piety, duplicity, and unbridled hatred for humans. It was fascinating to see a chimp in a Pucci priestess getup smoking unfiltereds through an ostentatiously long, ornate cigarette holder. And the scene where she calls Charlton Heston a “pink little worm” in her unmistakable raspy voice and orders him to sing a twisted hymn to orangutan superiority was both terrifying and highly unsettling to fans of the Lucy Carmichael character she was contemporaneously playing on Here’s Lucy.

Gary saw the rushes and ordered they be burned, but a damaged bootleg went up on YouTube briefly a few years ago before his estate had it taken down. Absolutely mesmerizing.

by Anonymousreply 87May 20, 2023 11:12 PM

Gary lit Lucy's cigs and earned his oats.

by Anonymousreply 88May 20, 2023 11:20 PM

Rate costume test from “The Graduate” before she was replaced by Anne Bancroft:

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by Anonymousreply 89May 20, 2023 11:45 PM

^^Rare costume test.

by Anonymousreply 90May 20, 2023 11:47 PM

All of these "Lucy was asked to play . . . " posts are less funny than any episode of "Here's Lucy."

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by Anonymousreply 92May 20, 2023 11:59 PM

@r91, Don't quit your day job the market for low level snark has dried up like your pussy 😏

by Anonymousreply 93May 21, 2023 3:17 AM

She was a mean nasty bitch on the set of Mame....a righteous flop.

by Anonymousreply 94May 21, 2023 5:00 AM

When All In The Family went on the air in 1971 Lucille Ball HATED the show and wanted it take off the air in spite of Carolyn Appleby's appearance as Mrs. Stonehurst in 1971.

by Anonymousreply 95May 21, 2023 5:31 AM

Lucy was fucking leading man Keith Andes during the Broadway run of Wildcat.

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by Anonymousreply 96May 21, 2023 6:24 AM

The first time Lu saw Gary's cock, she threw her cup of coffee on it, and said You call this hot?

by Anonymousreply 97May 21, 2023 6:39 AM

Lucy was the leading choice for the 70s remake of A Star is Born. It would have been an exciting choice for her. A woman who was a shitty actress playing a woman who had the talent to actually become a great actress….

by Anonymousreply 98May 21, 2023 6:53 AM

She was a whore, darlin'.

by Anonymousreply 99May 21, 2023 6:56 AM

Cesar Romero revealed that he sucked Desi’s cock in Playboy and that Lucy thought Desi was gay when they first met and tried setting Cesar up with him.

The night before Lucy was filing for divorced back in the 40s, Desi fucked her. He woke up to find her getting dressed and asked where she was going. She told him that she had to get to court to file for divorce.

by Anonymousreply 100May 21, 2023 7:19 AM

Keith Andes’ cock.

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by Anonymousreply 101May 21, 2023 7:21 AM

Ginger Rogers’s mother encouraged Lucy to put out for parts. She was Lucy’s acting coach.

by Anonymousreply 102May 21, 2023 7:22 AM

@r100,... And then 12 year old Gary talked her out of it 🙄

by Anonymousreply 103May 21, 2023 7:23 AM

She eventually found work as a model, and as she sought acting roles, received advice from Lela Rogers — mother of her good friend Ginger Rogers — that she would later follow.

“If you want to be a star within two years, get auditioned on the casting couch,” Lela told her. “That’s the advice I gave my own daughter.”

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by Anonymousreply 104May 21, 2023 7:26 AM

^ I'd say Lela was right. Has any successful actress made it without a stop at the casting couch?

by Anonymousreply 105May 21, 2023 7:30 AM

[quote]I'd say Lela was right. Has any successful actress made it without a stop at the casting couch?

Marie Dressler, probably.

by Anonymousreply 106May 21, 2023 8:25 AM

[quote] "I think Vivian Vance would have been a better Mrs. Robinson than both Lucy and Anne Bancroft."

I don't know about that, but I would've loved for Vivian Vance to have picked up an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress later on in her career. Just to help her stand out from Lucy a little more (and I think Vivian was the better dramatic actress) And also because I think she was fully capable of that calibre of performance.

by Anonymousreply 107May 21, 2023 9:34 AM

R104, Lela Rogers “dated” J. Edgar Hoover.

by Anonymousreply 108May 21, 2023 9:36 AM

Between I LOVE LUCY and THE LUCY SHOW and after WILDCAT - Frank Sinatra wanted Lucy for the role of Mrs. Iselin in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE.

I really think she would be have been great - although Angela Lansbury made the role her own - showing a dangerous side of her personality that had not been on display on film since that dumb movie she made with Henry Fonda where she played a mean girl.

by Anonymousreply 109May 21, 2023 2:32 PM

Desi and Lucy were both whores. Whores shouldn't expect each other to be anything but whores.

by Anonymousreply 110May 21, 2023 5:30 PM

Dick Cavett interviews Lucie Arnaz, Carol Burnett, then Lucille Ball. Lucie was 19, so Lucille would have been around 59. Carol was around 37.

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by Anonymousreply 111May 21, 2023 5:36 PM

[quote]"I think Vivian Vance would have been a better Mrs. Robinson than both Lucy and Anne Bancroft."

I don't think the character of Mrs. Robinson was conceived as a middle-aged dishwater blonde.

by Anonymousreply 112May 21, 2023 5:45 PM

Imagining Lucille as Martha in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? is an exciting thought. She'd have been great. She also should have probably played Dolly in Hello, Dolly instead of trying to do Mame. She'd have been able to handle the score better and would have been more age appropriate.

She was always in love with Desi. Many of us have had relationships and affairs like this. It's impossible to live with them and we know it's best to break things off, but they take a piece of our hearts with them and we never get it back. She tried the excitement with Desi and tried the more traditional boring marriage with Gary. I'm sure there were aspects of both she liked, but the creative union between Lucy and Desi gave us some wonderful years of entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 113May 21, 2023 6:42 PM

I wonder when the last time Lucy had sex in her life was.

by Anonymousreply 114May 21, 2023 6:53 PM

Lucille Ball was not a dramatic actress.

End of story.

by Anonymousreply 115May 21, 2023 7:01 PM

I would have love to sit on Gary's mug.

by Anonymousreply 116May 21, 2023 7:10 PM

[quote]She also should have probably played Dolly in Hello, Dolly instead of trying to do Mame. She'd have been able to handle the score better and would have been more age appropriate.

I assume this is meant to be a joke. She would have decimated the score of "Hello, Dolly!" the same way she croaked out the songs in "Mame." Each number was compiled from multiple takes, and they still sounded like shit.

by Anonymousreply 117May 21, 2023 7:27 PM

When my mom worked for Philco-Ford, they gave her and her coworkers tickets to see MAIM. She said that it wasn’t bad, but that Lucy was not the best singer. The actress who portrayed Miss Gooch showed up in an episode of GOOD TIMES. Mom was so happy about spotting her for some reason…

by Anonymousreply 118May 21, 2023 7:34 PM

Carole Cook dubbed a lot of Lucy's singing on her TV shows.

by Anonymousreply 119May 21, 2023 7:37 PM

If Carol Channing could sing the score for Dolly, Lucy could do it. The keys were raised and the songs were rearranged once they had Streisand to make the role more of a musical powerhouse. The original Broadway score isn't as tough a sing as Mame.

by Anonymousreply 120May 21, 2023 7:48 PM

Lucy. Could. Not. Sing.


by Anonymousreply 121May 21, 2023 8:41 PM

[quote]Between I LOVE LUCY and THE LUCY SHOW and after WILDCAT - Frank Sinatra wanted Lucy for the role of Mrs. Iselin in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. I really think she would be have been great - although Angela Lansbury made the role her own.

Made the role her own? Angela Lansbury is fucking brilliant as Mrs. Iselin and should have won a supporting Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 122May 21, 2023 8:45 PM

Lucy’s cremains were originally interred in a little, unassuming spot labelled MORTON at Forest Lawn, Hollywood Hills, but then Lucie and Desi Jr. had her moved to the Ball family plot in Jamestown, NY, with a heart-shaped monument that more suitably commemorates her as a TV legend. Does anyone know why she chose to be interred in a tiny, hard-to-find niche in California, with the Morton name looming over hers?

by Anonymousreply 123May 21, 2023 9:04 PM

R123, She was Mrs. Morton longer than she was Mrs. Arnaz.

by Anonymousreply 124May 21, 2023 9:41 PM

Her voice became so low and gravelly. She looked older than her age. However, Lucie seems to love her. So, I'm assuming she did a decent job at being a mom.

by Anonymousreply 125May 21, 2023 9:50 PM

For the love of god, stop quoting Darwin Porter. He's a slovenly obese ancient gurleen in WEHO who writes faux stories about dead celebs. Vile.

by Anonymousreply 126May 21, 2023 9:53 PM

[quote]She was Mrs. Morton longer than she was Mrs. Arnaz.

Actually, R124, she was “Lucille Ball” most of her life and through both marriages. My point is: why was she not the headliner on her grave in Forest Lawn? I think that’s partly why her kids relocated her remains to the family plot in NY, under a headstone marked BALL.

by Anonymousreply 127May 21, 2023 10:00 PM

I still find it hilarious they used the grape squelching scene in Pretty Woman, apparently as an erotic visual appetizer. Gere oozes sleaze in that scene.

by Anonymousreply 128May 21, 2023 10:01 PM

R127, In seeking the necessary court order to have her mother’s remains moved from California to New York, Lucie explained that her mother always enjoyed the change of seasons in the east.

Which begs the question . . . Why was Lucy laid to rest in California initially? Yes, she died unexpectedly, but given her age, her funeral/burial plans must have already been decided.

by Anonymousreply 129May 21, 2023 10:50 PM

r129 reminds me: when Vivian Vance was dying, someone asked what she wanted to be done with her cremated remains. She replied, "Oh honey, I don't care. Surprise me!"

by Anonymousreply 130May 21, 2023 11:11 PM

R127, that was a nice cemetery. I doubt Gary paid for or chose anything. Or maye the kids ordered Ball, and Gary talked them out of it.

by Anonymousreply 131May 21, 2023 11:21 PM

R131, Gary remarried a golf pro not that long after Lucy died and moved to Palm Springs.

After Gary died, Lucie was involved in an ugly court battle with Gary’s widow over some possessions of her mother’s that Lucie felt should be returned to her and Desi, Jr.

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by Anonymousreply 132May 21, 2023 11:50 PM

[quote]Lucille Ball was not a dramatic actress.

Even so, I thought she was very good in Five Came Back.

by Anonymousreply 133May 22, 2023 12:54 AM

Gary Morton was once described by a DL poster as one of those 70s guys in a toupee and polyester pants who just finished tearing up the bathroom something fierce.

by Anonymousreply 134May 22, 2023 1:00 AM

"Yours, Mine & Ours - The Musical"

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by Anonymousreply 135May 22, 2023 2:15 AM

Lucy in Ziegfeld Follies using a leather whip to discipline a gang of seductively dressed cat girls was way ahead of its time. If it were a segment on the Grammy Awards today, it would cause outcry and boycotts by conservative groups, and Lucy would be cancelled by Ted Nugent and Kid Rock.

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by Anonymousreply 136May 22, 2023 4:18 AM

Lucy STANDING on a horse was the weirdest thing about it, and it was plenty weird enough without that.

by Anonymousreply 137May 22, 2023 11:52 AM

Lucy was supposed to be Flipper. (Insert Gary joke here).

by Anonymousreply 138May 22, 2023 12:20 PM

As an actress, Vivian had much greater range than Lucille.

by Anonymousreply 139May 22, 2023 12:29 PM

Vivian’s entrance at 1:45 . . .

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by Anonymousreply 140May 22, 2023 12:59 PM

Vivian hubby was Larry from "Bewitched" (David White) in that "Rhoda" episode.

by Anonymousreply 141May 22, 2023 2:53 PM

""Yours, Mine and Ours" was the 11th highest-grossing movie of 1968(!). This must have given Lucy/Gary the clout for another career resurrection and stab at the movies (sitcom and the ill-fated "Mame"):

"It was a massive commercial success, earning nearly $26 million ($182 Million adjusted for inflation) at the box office (on a tight budget of $2.5 million) and earning over $11 million in rentals. It was the top-grossing film released by United Artists in 1968. This came about probably on the strength of Lucille Ball's name and performance (which many of her fans regard as a classic). Some critics felt that Ball, then in her late 50s, was perhaps 15 years too old for the part of a middle-aged (presumably 40-ish) mother.

Not anticipating the huge box office returns from the movie, Lucille Ball failed to make appropriate tax shelter and thus saw most of her share going to pay taxes.

The film's success partly inspired network approval of the television series The Brady Bunch; the original script for the series pilot was written well before this movie became a reality."

by Anonymousreply 142May 22, 2023 3:22 PM

Gary's widow Susie looks like she knew her way around a nut loaf...

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by Anonymousreply 143May 22, 2023 3:52 PM

Well, r143, we all knew Lucille and Viv were furiously scissoring after every show. Maybe old Gary had a type.

by Anonymousreply 144May 22, 2023 3:54 PM

R144, Well, Lucie did find a number of intimate letters between Lucy and Mary Wickes among her mother’s possessions after her death.

It’s known they were close friends, Mary spent a lot of time at Lucy’s Roxbury Drive home.

by Anonymousreply 145May 22, 2023 4:41 PM

Mary Wickes was a known dyke.

by Anonymousreply 146May 22, 2023 6:42 PM

Lucy liked bones in her fish.

by Anonymousreply 147May 22, 2023 6:58 PM

Yeah, I don't think Lucille was a lesbian. But she did have big lesbian energy from time to time.

I think Vivian may have experimented.

by Anonymousreply 148May 22, 2023 7:29 PM

I've posted this before, but the only 2 nice areas of Lucy's house was Gary's closet (filled with Vuitton luggage) and his office. Both beautifully wood-paneled.

The rest of the place was a shithole that hadn't been touched since the 60s.

by Anonymousreply 149May 22, 2023 10:01 PM

"......knew her way around a nutloaf." 😂 You funny fucker!

by Anonymousreply 150May 22, 2023 10:02 PM

@r149, The place looks like it smelled of stale cigarettes

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by Anonymousreply 151May 22, 2023 10:34 PM

Lucy never renovated or made any other changes to her house in the decades she lived there, no even new furniture. By the time she died it was a time capsule and really showing its age. The new owners did a gut renovation.

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by Anonymousreply 152May 22, 2023 11:29 PM

Another pic of Lucy at home.

by Anonymousreply 153May 22, 2023 11:30 PM

Sorry, forgot the link.....

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by Anonymousreply 154May 22, 2023 11:34 PM

Ghastly r154!

by Anonymousreply 155May 22, 2023 11:36 PM

It looks like Lucy was visiting the Bradys at their home.

by Anonymousreply 156May 22, 2023 11:44 PM

The only cool thing was seeing furniture from I Love Lucy. A back patio had some of the stuff from the Hollywood episodes.

by Anonymousreply 157May 22, 2023 11:55 PM

I wonder if Lucy dyed the carpet...

by Anonymousreply 158May 22, 2023 11:58 PM

This isn't a good quality pic, but here's Lucy and Gary with Barbara Walters at the house on Roxbury Drive. You can smell the stale cig smoke and whiskey through your screen.

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by Anonymousreply 159May 23, 2023 12:00 AM

Lucy's bedroom on Roxbury Drive. OMG!

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by Anonymousreply 160May 23, 2023 12:02 AM

When I was there (80s), she added a powder blue wrought iron headboard.

by Anonymousreply 161May 23, 2023 12:04 AM

Okay r161 you can't just leave us hanging like that. Tell us about your visit with Lucy in the 80s.

by Anonymousreply 162May 23, 2023 12:07 AM

Carole Cook was picking up something and invited me along. She gave me a tour of the house, and we laughed our asses off. Lucy was playing a game with some guy in a corner of the living room- maybe backgammon?

I couldn't believe she lived like that.

by Anonymousreply 163May 23, 2023 12:19 AM

r263 you mean the house was dumpy?

by Anonymousreply 164May 23, 2023 12:29 AM

Stained carpet, outdated bathrooms, rumpus room stacked with boxes of crap (including Mame coffee mugs), pool house with towels that were rags.

by Anonymousreply 165May 23, 2023 12:53 AM

[quote]I wonder if Lucy dyed the carpet...

It does match the drapes.

by Anonymousreply 166May 23, 2023 12:53 AM

When the eyesight begins to go, lots of things (my mothers guest towels) went to hell but were overlooked

by Anonymousreply 167May 23, 2023 1:18 AM

What's with that "tan" on Morton ?

by Anonymousreply 168May 23, 2023 1:22 AM

^^he thought it made him sexy

by Anonymousreply 169May 23, 2023 1:27 AM

Did Gary Morton do anything other than play golf, fetch Lucy her drinks and light her cigs? Did he ever actually have a job?

by Anonymousreply 170May 23, 2023 1:29 AM

Yes, chiseling down actor's fees to appear on the show.

by Anonymousreply 171May 23, 2023 2:01 AM

R170, He also carried her clutch bag at public events.

by Anonymousreply 172May 23, 2023 2:32 AM

A lot of that decor was just the '70s. It was not an era of sleek and timeless designs.

by Anonymousreply 173May 23, 2023 2:34 AM

[quote] Every morning Lucy would burnish up Gary's skin with Lemon Pledge.

This made me laugh the other day and I keep thinking about it - I'm declaring it my favorite ever comment on DL!

by Anonymousreply 174May 23, 2023 3:18 AM

She did buy a condo in New York and hired a decorator, so maybe it looked better. Although she was cheap AF.

by Anonymousreply 175May 23, 2023 3:38 AM

[quote]She did buy a condo in New York and hired a decorator, so maybe it looked better. Although she was cheap AF.

Ask and ye shall recieve....

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by Anonymousreply 176May 23, 2023 3:48 AM

More Lucy in NY....

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by Anonymousreply 177May 23, 2023 3:49 AM

Lucy's bedroom in her NY apartment....

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by Anonymousreply 178May 23, 2023 3:50 AM

Lucy's living room in NY...

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by Anonymousreply 179May 23, 2023 3:54 AM

I love how the old stars all had breakfast in bed. The breakfast tray always had the same things - coffee, orange juice, toast, the newspaper and plenty of cigarettes to start the day.

by Anonymousreply 180May 23, 2023 3:56 AM

I wonder if The Ropers were based on them?

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by Anonymousreply 181May 23, 2023 4:19 AM

@r179, Lucy stole my look... And they say I'M a bitch 😠

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by Anonymousreply 182May 23, 2023 4:55 AM

OMG Lucy had atrocious taste in decor! Those giant, leafy plants covering every square inch of every coffee and end table! And the three crooked window boxes above her bed - I earthquake country, no less! Just ghastly.

by Anonymousreply 183May 23, 2023 2:44 PM

Vivian's husband would have been APPALLED.

by Anonymousreply 184May 23, 2023 3:11 PM

Lucy home troll, I think those are 2 different condos. Obviously the decor was changed at the very least, because the AD place looks nice.

by Anonymousreply 185May 23, 2023 6:19 PM

All the photos were listed as her NY apartment, and I believe she only ever had one, but who knows. The NY apartment looked much better than her LA house on Roxbury Drive where she lived for decades. The Roxbury Drive house was so frumpy and tacky, really shocking for a star of her stature.

Jimmy Stewart also lived on Roxbury Drive just a few houses down from Lucy and I heard that after he died the new owners also had to do a total gut reno because nothing had been touched in decades.

by Anonymousreply 186May 23, 2023 6:46 PM

[quote]The NY apartment looked much better than her LA house on Roxbury Drive where she lived for decades. The Roxbury Drive house was so frumpy and tacky, really shocking for a star of her stature.

The Beverly Hills house on "Here's Lucy" was nicer.

Still hilarious that a big house in BH could be afforded by a secretary.

by Anonymousreply 187May 23, 2023 6:50 PM

Yes, I'm the poster who was in Lucy's Roxbury house. I just remember a friend said Lucy was buying a place in NY for when she visited her grandkids, so that was early 80s.

by Anonymousreply 188May 23, 2023 6:52 PM

If they had auto tune in 1973 MAME would be considered one of the great musicals of the past. Lucky break today for Taylor Swift if they ever start making musicals again (CATS doesn't count).

by Anonymousreply 189May 24, 2023 9:24 AM

R189 "Open a New Window ('cause Gary Just Farted)."

by Anonymousreply 190May 24, 2023 1:06 PM

When threads devolve into fart jokes, it's time to call it a day.

by Anonymousreply 191May 24, 2023 10:11 PM

I figured it was op keeping this nothing of s thread alive

by Anonymousreply 192May 24, 2023 10:13 PM

[quote]we all knew Lucille and Viv were furiously scissoring after every show

Lucy always smelled "funny" down there...

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