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Britney Spears Crazier Than Ever!

I love the music.

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by Anonymousreply 179June 7, 2023 12:47 PM

Her fans on TikTok have come up with all these conspiracy theories including that Jamie Lynn is pretending to be Britney. That Britney died and it’s all AI. They have videos slowed down that they say show that it’s really her sister pretending to be her. lol

by Anonymousreply 1May 19, 2023 5:11 AM

#FreeBritney really did show the issue with trying to reduce complex problems down to hashtags. It really needed to be something along the lines of #Her family are shit but she clearly needs some sort of care that's capable of making her to take her meds

by Anonymousreply 2May 19, 2023 5:23 AM

This doesn’t sound like her. I don’t think it’s her. Her movements are too aggressive.

by Anonymousreply 3May 19, 2023 5:24 AM

[quote]That Britney died and it’s all AI.

Oh god. There are going to be a zillion of these claims/conspiracy theories now about every person in the public eye, and I'm already exhausted.

by Anonymousreply 4May 19, 2023 5:27 AM

Her and Sammy boy, sucking face on her most recent Instagram posts Is truly gag worthy, but I still root for Britney Jean and hate that it’s not going to end well for her.

by Anonymousreply 5May 19, 2023 5:37 AM

Does Britney leave her house often? I don’t follow her much, but it seems like most of the clips linked here are of her dancing in her empty house. She taught for her freedom, but still seems like a prisoner.

I assume she is a multimillionaire and could afford to travel the world, access the best medical care, and live the life of her choosing. If she’s not working, she could leave LA and start over somewhere else less toxic (no pun intended).

by Anonymousreply 6May 19, 2023 5:47 AM

#6, it's not encouraged...

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by Anonymousreply 7May 19, 2023 5:57 AM

That video is terrifying. At this rate, she is not going to survive 2023.

by Anonymousreply 8May 19, 2023 6:09 AM

This reminds me of a few weeks ago, when I traveled to Coney Island. I was sitting down at an outdoor table, eating my hot-dog, when a man sat on the bench across from me. He starting angrily spouting off some nonsensical ramblings. I became so uncomfortable that I got up and left. Britney is so obviously schizophrenic. She needs to be locked up in a home where she's force fed medication, otherwise there will be worse to come.

by Anonymousreply 9May 19, 2023 6:13 AM

She’s Little Edie on bath salts.

by Anonymousreply 10May 19, 2023 7:20 AM

That video is spooky.

by Anonymousreply 11May 19, 2023 7:32 AM

[quote] "She’s Little Edie on bath salts."

This is incredibly accurate, R10.

[quote] "That video is spooky."

Even without the music, it would be spooky.

by Anonymousreply 12May 19, 2023 7:50 AM

Has she done a cover version of Seal's "Crazy"?

If not, she should.

by Anonymousreply 13May 19, 2023 8:11 AM

Brit-brit is jes fine. Y'all worry too dang much.

by Anonymousreply 14May 19, 2023 8:13 AM

Who added that creepy music?

by Anonymousreply 15May 19, 2023 8:13 AM

Wow, she's really in a manic phase. She's probably been up for a few days. She'd be a nightmare to live with.

by Anonymousreply 16May 19, 2023 9:02 AM

[quote] Britney is so obviously schizophrenic.

That behavior is not reflective of schizophrenia. As r16 said, it’s manic. When I saw this video online so many people, a lot of them nurses, commented that she looks like a typical bi-polar person during a manic phase.

by Anonymousreply 17May 19, 2023 11:14 AM

I've always thought she's schizoaffective.

Amanda Bynes is clearly schizophrenic.

by Anonymousreply 18May 19, 2023 11:21 AM

OP where's the original of the video? I don't see it in her TikTok. I wonder if someone dubbed vocals over that. I realllly wish she'd go on a talk show now, and someone could show her this and ask her what the fck she's doing??

by Anonymousreply 19May 19, 2023 11:24 AM

She’s like the Frankenstein monster unchained. Were her daddy?

by Anonymousreply 20May 19, 2023 11:31 AM

R19 must be slow, she's pretending to talk in weird voices cause they're "skits" but she's not very good at it

by Anonymousreply 21May 19, 2023 11:37 AM

^where her daddy? Really… where is he?

by Anonymousreply 22May 19, 2023 11:39 AM

R2 Just because a person needs help regulating their medication, that is no reason to deprive them of their legal right to personhood. What the court system and JS did to Britney is a travesty.

Sadly, bullshit conservatorship happens to old people all the time. Not because it's in their best interest to become wards of the state, but because people are battling over control of their assets.

I do not see a problem if a grown woman wants to act silly and do impressions. It's a free country. I sometimes do shit like that just because it's Tuesday. *Bootydances*

by Anonymousreply 23May 19, 2023 11:46 AM

Agree with R16. Big-time manic phase.

by Anonymousreply 24May 19, 2023 12:40 PM

She always dresses in clothes that make her look chunky. The camera angle doesn't help.

by Anonymousreply 25May 20, 2023 12:23 AM

Britney was at her prettiest, sexiest and best dressed when she was in love with Michael Jackson.

Her parents wouldn't let her marry him. Because he was from a black family. His death broke her heart forever.

She's been dancing on her own every since.

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by Anonymousreply 26May 20, 2023 12:50 AM

Yes, Britney looked incredible in that performance. I wonder what their conversations were like in private? 2 incredible iconic performers who both were/ are victims of their own fame, their parents and other opportunists, and their own behavior. Shame how things turned out.

by Anonymousreply 27May 20, 2023 1:19 AM

Please, she was never in love with Michael Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 28May 20, 2023 1:25 AM

Steam of consciousness video montages make someone crazy? I was entertained, and admit it... so were all of you. She's just doing her job.

by Anonymousreply 29May 20, 2023 1:47 AM

Great, now the Wacko Jacko stans have entered the fray.

by Anonymousreply 30May 20, 2023 1:55 AM

It makes me sad. I know people with serious mental illness. If you add fame and money , it’s a lethal combo .

The TikTok conspiracy theorists remind me of the “ Paul is dead” rumor back in the day,

by Anonymousreply 31May 20, 2023 2:12 AM

I have occasionally dipped into Britney's Instagram over the years, and it's always the same bizarre videos of her dancing in the expansive, empty living room of her house, doing the same manic and bizarre movements. Off-putting to say the least, and just strange. She truly seems like she has some sort of brain damage to me.

by Anonymousreply 32May 20, 2023 2:25 AM

She's doing art!

by Anonymousreply 33May 20, 2023 3:02 AM

She reminds me of Helen Mirren's 60s character.

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by Anonymousreply 34May 20, 2023 3:02 AM

Ffs not age restriction

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by Anonymousreply 35May 20, 2023 3:08 AM

Sashay away, Britney.

by Anonymousreply 36May 20, 2023 3:38 AM

The rumor has been that she was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder.

by Anonymousreply 37May 20, 2023 4:29 AM

I have definitely been on the schizoaffective disorder train for awhile now.

by Anonymousreply 38May 20, 2023 4:58 AM

The condition usually begins in the late teens or early adulthood, up to age 30. It rarely occurs in children. Studies suggest the disorder is more likely to occur in women than men.

by Anonymousreply 39May 20, 2023 5:01 AM

R39, what is?

by Anonymousreply 40May 20, 2023 5:22 AM

I think it's Psychomania.

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by Anonymousreply 41May 20, 2023 2:46 PM

R40 The schizoaffective stuff.

"Common symptoms of Schizoaffective Disorder include positive symptoms (hearing voices, unusual beliefs), negative symptoms (apathy, little emotion, poor attention and concentration) and other symptoms such as depression or mania."

by Anonymousreply 42May 20, 2023 3:31 PM

[quote]The rumor has been that she was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder.

I have only heard that said about her on DL. Not saying it isn’t true, but that’s not what is being said on other social media platforms.

by Anonymousreply 43May 20, 2023 5:21 PM

r43 DL's often get it right

by Anonymousreply 44May 20, 2023 5:25 PM

^^^ DLers

by Anonymousreply 45May 20, 2023 5:26 PM

She's sexy and moves well at R26. Those were the days.

by Anonymousreply 46May 20, 2023 5:32 PM

I love hearing her speaking in what I presume is closer to her natural voice-- lower register with robust-volume.

by Anonymousreply 47May 20, 2023 10:17 PM

That Helen Mirren clip is hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 48May 21, 2023 12:34 AM

I have zero trouble believing that Britney beats Sam.

by Anonymousreply 49May 21, 2023 12:40 AM

huh?

by Anonymousreply 50May 21, 2023 3:21 AM

🎵 Just keep on dancing, just keep on dancing, right now, right now… 🎵

by Anonymousreply 51May 21, 2023 3:34 AM

Me neither R49

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by Anonymousreply 52May 21, 2023 3:54 AM

Well she did say in Gimme More that she just can't control herself.

Gimme Gimme More Gimme More (Lithium or Valproate).

According to her husband she drinks tonnes of coffee and energy drinks so that combined with bipolar = cuckoo.

A large dose of seroquel on a regular basis would soon fix that.

by Anonymousreply 53May 21, 2023 4:09 AM

R26 That was such a shame. At the time of this performance they were probably two of the most attractive people on the planet, the sexual chemistry between them that night was incredible. It’s like they couldn’t wait to rip each others clothes off once they got back to their dressing room. I suspect they were dating for a while, but kept it very private. I truly believe that Michael would have had a happy life if he had been allowed to marry Britney, and that he would still be alive today. They would be living on the ranch quietly raising their kids just like any other normal couple.

It still upsets that some people believe the lies about Michael. Michael was pure and innocent and too good for this world. When he was licking those little boys asses it wasn’t sexual at all, he was just cleaning them, just like Jesus washed the feet of lepers. Why can’t people understand this?

by Anonymousreply 54May 21, 2023 9:07 AM

[quote]I love hearing her speaking in what I presume is closer to her natural voice-- lower register with robust-volume.

Britney sure doesn't have any kind of robust singing voice, that's for sure. 😂 🤣

by Anonymousreply 55May 21, 2023 9:58 AM

I can’t imagine listening to her dulcet tones!

by Anonymousreply 56May 21, 2023 10:12 AM

Watched the tmz doc. Levin is an ass but I don't really understand why so many media outlets like daily beast were having a prissy meltdown over how " exploitive" it was. It was mostly sympathetic to her struggles. It just acknowledged that she had an illness. It's so funny how the press gets so angry and sanctimonious now if any famous blonde is criticized even mildly. They sure don't give a shit about non famous women with mental illnesses, just look at the Karen hysteria.

by Anonymousreply 57May 21, 2023 2:49 PM

Britney hides behind a sweet fake persona and doesn't get exposed enough for her bad behavior. Wish Kevin would drop the worst footage his sons took of her going crazy but her stans would still defend her.

by Anonymousreply 58May 21, 2023 2:53 PM

I think what Britney needed was a happy medium. Fire her father and get a team into place of professionals. People who were able to help her day to day. Her superfans are really stupid in many ways. She shouldn't have been forced to work and pay dad but she also could use some sort of consistent help.

by Anonymousreply 59May 21, 2023 3:02 PM

I want to go to Six Flags with her.

I bet it'd be a hoot.

by Anonymousreply 60May 21, 2023 3:03 PM

[quote] She always dresses in clothes that make her look chunky

But she is a little chunky. That’s her body type. Long torso, short limbs, kind of thick. Her brother is on the thick side as well. It’s hard to dress that body type to begin with and it doesn’t photograph well.

by Anonymousreply 61May 21, 2023 4:53 PM

I affectionately have called her "SpongeBob SquareBrit" in the past...

She really has absolutely no waist. Zero.

by Anonymousreply 62May 21, 2023 4:57 PM

^^meant to add that I suffer from a long torso and no waist as well. I'm no first prize.

by Anonymousreply 63May 21, 2023 5:10 PM

She should open up her own dance studio. It would keep her busy without the insane stress of touring. Which i don't think she's well enough for any more.

by Anonymousreply 64May 21, 2023 5:24 PM

When was the last time she was on talk shows, red carpet or awards shows ? She hasnt been in public for a few years . Something is off . Her condition is so bad that she is not capable of being on a talk show to hold a 5 mins conversation

by Anonymousreply 65May 21, 2023 5:25 PM

I think it's been commented about on here re: opening her dance studio...and that it would keep her busy and doing something else besides those dumb twirly videos or her catwalk "fashion shows" she does. She must have heard that from somewhere online because one time she made a humorous reference as if she had opened a dance studio, but I think that might be too much for to handle, unless she could have someone ELSE teaching the routine, and then just stop them and be like the creative director or show them how to do it...something along those lines. But it doesn't seem like she could handle even that, unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 66May 21, 2023 5:33 PM

Seems like she is still in bipolar teenage rebel mode, refusing to take her medication. Nothing more.

Her fans are deranged with all the conspiracies.

by Anonymousreply 67May 21, 2023 6:11 PM

She isn't functional, she isn't opening anything.

by Anonymousreply 68May 21, 2023 10:08 PM

After her watermelon chores and washing her pits, she's pretty much done for the day.

The Kardashians have a hair salon, live in makeup and hair staff, as well as a state of the art surgical operating room in their compound. Private jets and a non stop social life.

Can't Britney get a couch and a dining set? Maybe a trampoline.

by Anonymousreply 69May 21, 2023 10:15 PM

R69, how about Neverland Ranch?

She's Michael Jackson crazy. Just not a pedo. And he was fucking 100% loony tunes at the end.

Camera steals your soul...

by Anonymousreply 70May 21, 2023 10:54 PM

That’s why she needed the conservatorship and medication all theses years……and not *freedom*.

by Anonymousreply 71May 21, 2023 11:06 PM

I don't know why people expect her to be sane. She has a mental illness, I think that's pretty well known. Free Britney was because mentally ill people don't always need conservators- in fact they RARELY need them, and they don't need someone to lock up their millions into a trust and take millions in fees. I like her crazy. She isn't hurting anyone or herself- if she pulls out the knives, maybe she has to have some hospital time. But she doesn't need a conservator- that is off the rails. I think most artists are mentally ill. (I say artist in the broadest sense of the term)

by Anonymousreply 72May 22, 2023 12:00 AM

[QUOTE]If you add fame and money , it’s a lethal combo . This can be true. But in Britney's case the fame and money have shielded her from the negative outcomes that usually befall the chronically mentally ill. If she were an average working class southerner, she could very well have become homeless town nutcase. Or worse.

by Anonymousreply 73May 22, 2023 1:11 AM

R72, thank you, you're right and your opinion is important! What makes you happy is the most important issue here.

by Anonymousreply 74May 22, 2023 1:19 AM

R72 Britney doesn‘t have the capacity to manage her own life and cope with modern world. She can’t be a mom and has lost her sons already - at least emotionally. And no, most artist are not this crazy. Some are very rational and calculating like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Lady Gaga etc.

by Anonymousreply 75May 22, 2023 1:20 AM

[quote] R72], thank you, you're right and your opinion is important! What makes you happy is the most important issue here. ~ Jayden and Sean Federline, doing great

We agree guys! ~The starving and abused dogs that even the maids were worried about.

by Anonymousreply 76May 22, 2023 1:28 AM

She doesn't even wash her hair or face. That's baglady-under-a-bridge level mental illness, folks.

by Anonymousreply 77May 22, 2023 2:11 PM

R77, well, I think sometimes she feels like she don't have a partner.

Sometimes she feels like her only friend,

Is the city she lives in,

The city of angels.

Lonely as Brit is, together they twirl.

by Anonymousreply 78May 23, 2023 3:30 AM

How sad and sheltered and naive is R77. Yes, not bathing and ignoring self care, sleeping a lot - staying close to home and not opening your own dance studio might be indicative of depression! And oh so very common. And real. For many people. It usually passes. But might return.

Britney has a more complex diagnosis - what about her messy hair and public antics threatens R77? How withholding was his mommy? Keeping it all together for a lifetime is not possible for everyone. Yes, Britney suffers mental illness. The bag lady under the bridge once had a another life too. Now, it's different.

by Anonymousreply 79May 23, 2023 4:15 AM

This is not just bipolar disorder. She may be bipolar but there has to be something else there as well. Someone said brain damage; that or schitzo-affective.

by Anonymousreply 80May 23, 2023 9:51 AM

They have her on antipsychotics.

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by Anonymousreply 81May 23, 2023 10:04 AM

Here she is talking with an Australian accent screaming about being a rollercoaster.

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by Anonymousreply 82May 23, 2023 10:06 AM

Yeah, she’s got something going on beyond bipolar. That video and others are just too wacky to be funny.

by Anonymousreply 83May 23, 2023 7:58 PM

Between the song title and the dress I’m speechless.

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by Anonymousreply 84May 25, 2023 12:19 AM

I think she likes Sam boyfriend. He's pretty.

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by Anonymousreply 85May 25, 2023 12:39 AM

Red hat dude is hot

by Anonymousreply 86May 25, 2023 12:53 AM

She's sad to me. Britney was hyped up all her life and lacked the skills, brains and talent to cope and survive as a "nobody." She was cute and charming and marketable for corporations. She was the perfect package to sell Europop, lite R&B and EDM to a white American audience. But she was never educated, smart or musically gifted or an excellent dancer. She had heavy investment and a big corporate push to make her happen. It's funny with all the "industry plant" accusations of Billie, Cardi and Ice Spice, nobody looks at Britney with her Disney and NSYNC/Backstreet Boys ties (who were already popular in Europe and The US had her open for them) as a prototype for that. Britney added a heavy sexuality to bubblegum teen pop too which further convinced the industry all you needed was softcore porn to make a big star. Teen pop stars back in the day were mostly innocent and suggestive at best while Britney was heavily sexualized. Britney only knows being sexy and shaking her butt and twirling around. She's just a product of her environment.

She's bitter and angry because she knows she's mediocre in every way and that's why she compares herself to or drags down every other female pop star or celebrity. Love them or hate them, Christina and Beyonce have more talent and it pisses her off they still have massive fanbases while she's stuck on Instagram embarrassing herself. Also mental illness or not, Britney is too lazy to actually improve herself. She could get singing and dancing lessons, learn an instrument or write songs. Turn her anger into something impressive and try to revive her legacy. But she won't and it's hard to feel sorry for her. While she's mentally ill, she's not braindead. She lies about everything in her life. She can drive, drink coffee, tour the world and vacation. While I agree her conservatorship was exploitation, she wasn't restrained or heavily controlled to the extent she exaggerated. She is a pathological liar. Justin Bieber and Aaron Carter are basically her male counterparts but don't get nearly the same amount of forgiveness and excuses as she did.

by Anonymousreply 87May 28, 2023 6:35 PM

What exactly is an industry plant? I’ve heard that many times about various artists but I don’t understand why people think that of some artists or even what that means.

by Anonymousreply 88May 28, 2023 6:52 PM

She's an absolute tragedy.

She was completely destroyed by the music business, her family, everyone around her.

She was clearly being exploited and even abused.

She plead for her freedom. A huge community supported her because people deserve to be in charge of their own fates.

And now we see why she really did need someone guiding her.

I believe she most likely would not have ended up like this if her family had not rented out her life as a cash cow. I think her life experience did this to her.

Those people can't be given control over her life.

But someone should be caring for her.

But no one could be trusted to care for her. She is too famous, worth too much, and people will always exploit her.

She has no chance.

by Anonymousreply 89May 28, 2023 6:55 PM

R88 I think it's a dumb term actually. Because most of the industry are "plants." Most of those "rags to riches" stories are phony and many so-called "indie acts" are already on a major label and supported by powerful people. The industry just likes to "test the waters" by putting an unknown out there and giving them this life story that seems relatable and aspirational and see if they will "stick." They'll give them a high-budget song or video yet claim they made they made it in their basement or something. Bieber and Billie had established their contracts before getting super popular yet had to sell an image of "hustling" and "going viral" to especially gain a young naive audience since kids want role models.

by Anonymousreply 90May 28, 2023 6:56 PM

R89 I agree. Her parents failed her and she has the right to be mad with them. But she is bringing a lot of her anger on others who weren't involved with her issues. Social media is also a terrible place to overshare your issues that should be done privately with a therapist. Also K Fed is an asshole and a loser for bringing his kids into this mess. Sam is a fame whore himbo who wanted to ride on Britney's coattails and not helping her. He's just as full of himself as her other exes. She's too wealthy and too uneducated and overemotional to not be exploited and a tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 91May 28, 2023 7:04 PM

R91 I can't blame her for being guilty or "overemotional" because she has a *severe* mental illness of some kind. She can't be held responsible for her actions or thoughts.

This is why I am so annoyed when politicians and media pundits talk about "mental illness" in terms of people feeling sad, body image, being unhappy with one's state of being. That's life. I have been extremely depressed and even suicidal throughout much of my life. Even that does not deserve to be grouped with schizophrenia and bipolar psychosis. People with psychotic tendencies do not live in the same reality we do, not a lot of the time, anyway. That's true, profound mental illness, and it's lost in the mix of discussions about what really amounts to sadness and loneliness and poor social conditioning.

by Anonymousreply 92May 28, 2023 7:15 PM

R92 You make good points. Unfortunately I think most so-called Britney fans don't care about her mental illness either. They seem to want her to either go back to her glory days like it's 2000 (despite the fact the pressures of stardom triggered her) or "crazy" like 2008 again (it's gross who that era of shaved head Britney, crying Paris and blackouted Lindsay are memes now).

by Anonymousreply 93May 28, 2023 7:33 PM

The marriage must be a challenge.

by Anonymousreply 94May 28, 2023 11:27 PM

R93 Most people seem to be on some level of the sociopathy spectrum to me.

I felt horrified for Britney and by extension all big celebs when I saw video of her being physically surrounded and stalked by scores of photographers back when Perez Hilton's blog was a thing. She looked horrified being ushered through the crowds and into her car with blinding flashes all around and people yelling things at her to get her to look at them. It looked like hell.

But the public beat the shit out of her.

Then she drove with the baby on her lap, beat up a car with an umbrella, shaved her head, went into a rehab center and people were monstrous about it. Hardly any compassion.

The "Free Britney" movement should have been compassionate but it really was just a new package for people to express rage and hatred. They just directed the rage and hate at her family, the California legal system, etc. Not to say that those parties are beyond criticism at all but the point is that people's focus was on the hatred and freeing Britney was the excuse to be hateful.

She got out and now it's split between laughing at her, mocking her while pretending to feel sympathy for her, blaming her family, and making predictions about when her life will end tragically.

It's all fucking sick and there is very little compassion or empathy in any of it.

People don't say they feel for her. They objectify her. No one seems to try to imagine what she must feel like being trapped in such a hellish existence. Instead, it's been more like "free your crazy daughter so she can sing and dance for us until she dies."

by Anonymousreply 95May 28, 2023 11:38 PM

She had a hard life

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by Anonymousreply 96May 29, 2023 3:46 AM

Her songs are kind of prophetic.

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by Anonymousreply 97May 29, 2023 3:46 AM

Maybe singing songs about how crazy you are and how your loneliness is killing you takes a toll internally.

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by Anonymousreply 98May 29, 2023 3:48 AM

[quote] What exactly is an industry plant? I’ve heard that many times about various artists but I don’t understand why people think that of some artists or even what that means.

It's a performer who is not necessarily more talented than anyone else out there. However, the industry people with money and power put resources (marketing, studio time, glow-up (new teeth, plastic surgery, clothes), etc.) behind the person because they think/know they can make money off of that person.

Ice Spice is rumored to be an industry plant.

There's a Brady Bunch episode involving studio people wanting to turn Greg Brady into "Johnny Bravo" only because he fit the sequined suit they already had.

by Anonymousreply 99May 29, 2023 4:03 AM

Still clASSy.

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by Anonymousreply 100May 29, 2023 12:40 PM

Off-topic: this may be a stupid question, but say your record company wants to throw big money behind you like that. As an artist you don’t want to risk being perceived as a plant because your reputation amongst your peers matters to you. Could you turn it down and still be signed? Do you even have a choice with stuff like that? Would you be an idiot to even care about what your peers think?

I am just really fascinated by the music industry, but I don’t really know much about it.

by Anonymousreply 101May 29, 2023 9:41 PM

It's not right that she was put to work while under the conservatorship. Touring is a gruelling business. If she was so unwell as to under the power of her father, then touring should have been taken off the table.

She should also have a lot more than $60M to her name.

Therapy and a good shrink would make a hell of a difference to her current life. The videos and naked pics are beyond sad.

by Anonymousreply 102May 30, 2023 12:13 AM

I moderately disagree. She was slowly put back together through the work. And it's not like she didn't get self-esteem from that, in addition to money. At the start she couldn't do much dancing and had two people flanking her for every little move. But she slowly built up functioning. I watched the whole process of getting her into that Vegas residency. She rehearsed and then did that show, regularly. A full time job. She got more and more functional. She also managed a season on X factor without a complete freakout. The vegas residency grossed 137 million. I think she was able to find the stability that led her to fight to exit the conservatorship. That's my take and I'm sticking to it. I think she needs structure and it's obvious now, post conservatorship, she has no structure, and she is spiralling.

by Anonymousreply 103May 30, 2023 4:14 AM

R103 I think the conservatorship was needed at first because she was completely out of control and was going to end up dead or in prison. Many in her circle admitted it saved her life. Her career and her finances were basically at rock bottom (her managers were robbing her blind, Blackout was a flop and that 2007 VMA performance got her so much flack) until that conservatorship. Now I definitely think once she got back to business with that Vegas residency and tour and getting radio hits and that perfume endorsement, her fortune skyrocketed and corrupt handlers started exploiting her and funneling money from her with aging father being too stupid to see it. I can see her likely growing more and more defiant over time due to her mental illness resurfacing (bipolar or schizoaffective is difficult to treat) and eventually getting tired of being under restrictions thus acting out again. Once Sam got into the picture, he enabled her to go force with ending the conservatorship. Its rumored Sam was the leader of #FreeBritney by posting online and acting as a whistleblower. This is one situation where I can see both sides, her family and management were overstepping boundaries (even with a mental illness, Britney has rights) and Britney's mental state becoming too erratic to control. She needed a new party to overlook her conservatorship (not her family but people should could trust) rather than it terminated altogether. She is in a very vulnerable position now with no allies and she alienated what she had previously.

by Anonymousreply 104May 30, 2023 4:43 AM

I think she takes speed

by Anonymousreply 105May 30, 2023 5:40 AM

R105 Mania is natural speed. Drugs like Seroquel and lithium slow down people who are naturally in fast forward.

by Anonymousreply 106May 30, 2023 11:12 AM

Or maybe just unmedicated bipolar, r105, with some sort of personality disorder thrown in. I know someone who refuses to take meds for his bipolar as it will interfere with his drinking. He must have NPD as well because he is exceptionally attention seeking and extremely annoying. At least some people like Britney and care about her. Nobody likes the guy I know, not even his own family, including his kids.

by Anonymousreply 107May 30, 2023 12:39 PM

Most people with personality disorders were traumatized by others—narcissist parents, abusers, pedophiles, etc.—and they develop these personality to cope and survive.

Britney's family exploited her all her life, and her reality (regardless of what others think—she pleaded to a judge publicly about this) is that her parents and her sister have effectively enslaved her as a cash cow.

Her producers, the music and stage performance industries, have milked her, too.

How could she not be fucked up?

by Anonymousreply 108May 30, 2023 1:00 PM

Remember Behind the Music? I watched Britney’s and her mother Lynn pushed her into show business really really hard. Before she was famous and was still just doing state fairs and stuff, some of Lynn’s friends had to do an intervention to tell her that she was overworking her daughter. Lynn was oblivious. She was like, Oh, gosh. I didn’t even realize I was pushing too hard. She was kind of sheepish, but only a little.

Back in the day people in the industry would say Britney lacked real talent but she did work very hard. That was like the only thing people could praise her for. The relentless work.

by Anonymousreply 109May 30, 2023 5:20 PM

Lynne said Britney pushed her. Britney used to have a 200 mm fortune but her family went through it like a swarm of locusts.

by Anonymousreply 110May 31, 2023 2:28 AM

Family, "friends", exes, managers and basically everyone. Honestly it's easy to criticize her but when you grew up lower middle class in the boondocks, taught with those Biblical values to put others before yourself. It's quite easy to fall prey to exploitation even without a mental illness. Britney was doped up on caffeine, Adderall and painkillers due to the hectic demands of her teen stardom and was revealed to have self-medicated with coke and weed. Elvis and Whitney Houston dealt with predatory family and friends and corrupt managers like Britney basically taking their money while they were high or drunk out of their mind. Britney lacked the sociopathic nature of Madonna to cut most of her family and friends off. Even if their people you'd love and protect you, that amount of money and being in proximity to it just corrupts people

by Anonymousreply 111May 31, 2023 4:49 AM

*you'd think

by Anonymousreply 112May 31, 2023 5:00 AM

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by Anonymousreply 113June 2, 2023 2:10 PM

Sometimes I she would have been happier if she had just married some childhood sweetheart and been a dancing instructor. If her mother hadn't been such a stage mom.

by Anonymousreply 114June 2, 2023 4:28 PM

[quote] Britney lacked the sociopathic nature of Madonna to cut most of her family and friends off.

Madonna's mother died when she was really young, but she had a more normal (non-showbiz) upbringing. She moved, by herself, as an adult, from Michigan to NY. She had a more solid foundation and her family wasn't, initially, depending on her for income $$$.

by Anonymousreply 115June 2, 2023 7:14 PM

“Just keep on dancing, right now, right now… 💃 “

by Anonymousreply 116June 2, 2023 7:20 PM

Y’all my cooter is itchin out of control! The powder ain’t workin anymore!!!

by Anonymousreply 117June 2, 2023 7:30 PM

R114 She seems like a very simple person. Not as dumb as people say she is, just very much a country bumpkin who would likely have been happier living on a farm and like you said, being a dance or yoga instructor or preschool teacher. Her attention whoring and willful ignorance is from that early imprinting, stage parents raise children to want to seek out the limelight and attribute all their worth to being the center of attention. They hype them up, overpraise and indulge them for every little effort and neglect other things like education, developing important skills and actual talents and most importantly social skills and empathy. Her mental illness just exacerbates the horrific upbringing she received. She wasn't really taught how to be an adult. Just got what she wanted just for going on stage. Her mother is acting dumb now like she didn't raise Britney that way and is surprised that behavior would be far less cute in a middle aged woman.

by Anonymousreply 118June 2, 2023 10:27 PM

No, she’s dumb.

by Anonymousreply 119June 2, 2023 10:45 PM

When she was young, she didn't really sound dumb to me. Not a genius but seemed more thoughtful and self-reflective than she is now. She just regressed to an infantile state once her mental illness started kicking into full gear. She is deeply insecure of her limitations but is too proud to admit it fully and got into the cycle of blaming everyone rather than also admit some responsibility which her fans enable. There's a fear of failure in her that's why she is refusing to leave social media and refusing to perhaps try to revive a music career (she would have to first admit she can't sing or dance and seek a coach). She isn't mentally retarded like some claim. More just very ignorant and immature at this point.

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by Anonymousreply 120June 3, 2023 12:15 AM

She was a W voter. She's DUMB.

by Anonymousreply 121June 3, 2023 12:18 AM

She seems nice, but vapid at R120.

by Anonymousreply 122June 3, 2023 12:30 AM

R120 Yes. Not a type who was made to value education. Her white trash family clearly were more invested in her fame than creating a backup plan like a college education if that plan failed.

by Anonymousreply 123June 3, 2023 12:33 AM

R123 Bingo, she’s white trash from a place that doesn’t value ivory towers.

by Anonymousreply 124June 3, 2023 4:27 AM

R124 And her taste in men betrays that upbringing. She consistently goes for unintelligent bums who are easy on the eyes but can't hold a job. If anything, Justin Timberlake would have "marrying up" for her since he works hard and came from a solidly upper middle-class Southern home. Not saying he isn't douchy but he's stable and increased his net worth with different ventures and investments, so he's not dumb

by Anonymousreply 125June 3, 2023 12:45 PM

Justin was such an asshole to her when they were dating. He would mock her right in front of the cameras, rolling his eyes and everything. She was so clueless about it too. For a very long time Britney had no idea everyone in the industry thought she was talentless.

By the way that did it all for the nookie guy pretended she was calling him all the time and hitting on him. Total made up lie. He never had any actual evidence they were in contact at all. Not even a picture of them together.

by Anonymousreply 126June 3, 2023 2:22 PM

A lot of what she does is the result of educational neglect. It’s shocking what lack of common knowledge she has about things that most people take for granted.

by Anonymousreply 127June 3, 2023 2:26 PM

You're right Justin was a condescending douchebag. Christina also tried to fake that she liked Britney though you could tell she was resentful. It wasn't necessarily jealousy but being pressured to copy Britney by execs and then having to be compared to her all the time drove her insane.

by Anonymousreply 128June 3, 2023 2:27 PM

Her childish behavior is not entirely blamed on bipolar disorder (though it magnified it). But more on the fact she wasn't raised normally, sheltered, always depended on others, uneducated and thus lacks common sense and life skills. Many mentally ill people do make decisions, work, go to school, live alone, have kids and maintain jobs though it's very hard for them and they don't have nearly the same amount of money and protection that Britney Spears has. Many have succeeded in life with the right treatment but the biggest factor is their willingness to cooperate.

I think the only reason the conservatorship was a thing was because her meltdown, had two small kids and she was blowing through her money. She doesn't appear that disconnected from reality but very immature, impulsive and wants to just do whatever she feels. If she didn't have that fortune, that conservatorship would have never happened. She would have lost custody and probably ended up dead or in jail.

by Anonymousreply 129June 3, 2023 2:45 PM

A few decades after this interview Britney would be talking about slapping her mother and sister in their fucking faces.

They wanted to be famous. That's all they seemed to care about. She told so many lies about herself, like being a virgin, pretending she had the greatest mother daughter relationship. Her mother seems batshit.

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by Anonymousreply 130June 4, 2023 12:17 AM

She favors her mom so much in a good way. Jamie Lynn is unfortunately looking more like their father as she ages.

by Anonymousreply 131June 4, 2023 12:31 AM

R130 She used to sing live like it shows in the clip. She sounds decent for the first song as she's standing still but she is clearly not a natural singer. Country music should have been her calling with the right development. DLBTLTK is a Shania reject song and it shows. She's struggling very hard with OIDIA with the high notes and dancing. These live performances showed what a studio singer she was and that's why management forced her to lip sync afterwards.

by Anonymousreply 132June 4, 2023 1:48 AM

She'll be in her natural state soon, dancing in a cage.

by Anonymousreply 133June 4, 2023 1:49 AM

R130, that "performance" was painful. Jesus Christ, the idea that people actually liked her voice at all.

by Anonymousreply 134June 4, 2023 1:50 AM

Her mom should have had her sing jazz or country. Her voice would sound better in those genres. She has a grit to her voice. I also can't believe her demo that was sent to the record label was covers of Whitney and Mariah songs. They just liked her look and signed her on. Apparently they tried to give her R&B songs and she sucked at singing them. So switched to a Euro dance pop with heavy beats and backup vocals and found it easier on the ears. Christina who was going to do R&B had to change to dance-pop afterward because of Britney's success.

by Anonymousreply 135June 4, 2023 1:55 AM

R135, it blows my mind she tried to sing " I Have Nothing". Just....wtf? Singers better than her don't even bother singing Whtiney or Mariah songs because they know they can't handle them. Clearly, mama Spears convinced her that she could do whatever she wanted.

by Anonymousreply 136June 4, 2023 2:00 AM

Her early singing voice was deep. Not a great singer but that voice could have been trained into something. Her Star Search performance was pretty good but too nasally and shaky, she needed more training. Most people can learn to sing if they want to. Now the issue was if she didn't adopt that fake baby voice to sell her "naughty but good schoolgirl" (barf) image, her major career would have never happened. Because her regular voice was mediocre and not marketable. Her looks were her selling point. So her fans are wrong to say "Jive ruined her" because she'd have no career otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 137June 4, 2023 2:04 AM

She sounds decent here. Like I said her hillbilly ass should have sung country. I've said the same thing with Miley.

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by Anonymousreply 138June 4, 2023 2:09 AM

I don't really get though is how is she "Princess of Pop." Her career is sorta like Paula Abdul, Ciara or J Lo except she lasted a long time. Made catchy dance music for the radio and focused on performances (though Paula, Ciara and J Lo are way better dancers on their worst days). Sorry stans, Blackout was very much a vapid commercial radio album part of the dub and EDM wave and she didn't have much input in it. Not that there's anything bad about making fun music that but she never had control of her music and used it express anything of depth like Madonna, Janet, Taylor Swift, Beyonce or Gaga have. Sonically I find Kylie Minogue and Rihanna make more interesting and innovative party music.

by Anonymousreply 139June 4, 2023 2:23 AM

Britney really didn't last that long. Her populairty really spanned about 12 years or so. That's good but that's nothing compared to Mariah or Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 140June 4, 2023 2:40 AM

R138 Ugh! HATE that outfit. Looks like she has a giant bush going on.

She's not a great singer.

by Anonymousreply 141June 4, 2023 2:44 AM

R140 Also I feel she peaked in 2004 and was being phased out for Gwen Stefani, Beyonce and Ciara and pop rockers like Kelly Clarkson, Ashlee Simpson and Pink. Disney created Hilary Duff as their version of Britney but more wholesome, so she got a big tween following. Britney was definitely heading out the door. But the media circus around her and the bounce back from the breakdown with Vegas residency saved her career. Her reality show was a fail, that VMA performance was tragic and Blackout flopped. But people love a good comeback and her team drummed up sympathy from the public. That's why she was able to get the hottest producers like Will.I.Am to produce her next string of albums that got her hits into the late 2000s and early 2010s.

by Anonymousreply 142June 4, 2023 3:09 AM

[quote] DLBTLTK is a Shania reject song and it shows. She's struggling very hard with OIDIA with the high notes and dancing.

Huh? Not everybody here knows the acronyms for Britney's songs.

by Anonymousreply 143June 4, 2023 3:14 AM

R142, exactly, everything was prolonged because everyone felt sorry f or her.

by Anonymousreply 144June 4, 2023 3:21 AM

It's in the YouTube video title r143. It's "Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know." The song is boring and generic but the music video holds a place in my heart because of the sexy Brice Durand, the French hunk chasing Britney around on the beach. It's softcore porn but focused on the hot guy. Bait for gay boys.

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by Anonymousreply 145June 4, 2023 3:22 AM

It's unfair to me that J Lo gets so much hate for relying on overpowering backup vocals to create an illusion of singing yet Britney did this since the beginning of her career till now. They're not the only ones. But Britney does get a lot of defense. People bash Beyoncé for lip syncing a few times yet she sings live most of the time. Britney stopped singing live pretty early on and lip synced far more. Britney doesn't really dance to justify lipping like she does. Mariah likely damaged her voice and is too proud, so lip syncs but she could sing her ass off in her prime. People are forgiving or her because she proved her talent. I feel Britney actually was never judged as harshly as other women in the industry.

by Anonymousreply 146June 4, 2023 3:47 AM

Yeah, she lip synched and wasn't even dancing, either. Just moving her arms around and walking.

by Anonymousreply 147June 4, 2023 3:58 AM

Imagine this is your mother

by Anonymousreply 148June 4, 2023 4:04 AM

She is a pig's dump, who got lucky and lip synchs.

Her eyes are utterly dead. Like an empty vessel.

An embarrassment.

by Anonymousreply 149June 4, 2023 4:07 AM

Her stans are bullies. And Britney has become a bully herself dragging people online giving her unhinged stans more people to stalk, doxx and send death threats to. She's basically no different than Azealia Banks with constant lying and victim mentality. The difference is Azealia is hated and made fun while Britney has a squad that will come to her defense. Britney needs to learn to grow up and take control of her life. Yes it's hard but she has no self-awareness. Clearly while mentally ill, she is full of opinions and understands what is going on. Being bipolar doesn't mean she can't make decisions. So why can't she decide to move on and start taking ownership of her life now that she isn't in a conservatorship? She also needs to be grateful she still has fame and even if estranged, her family is still around and she hasn't lost anyone important to her.

by Anonymousreply 150June 4, 2023 4:14 AM

R146 she was judged very harshly she just didn't respond to it and gave the illusion of not caring/ it's not going to stop me, so people respected her for that. She got a lot of negative publicity her whole career.

by Anonymousreply 151June 4, 2023 4:15 AM

Her voice at r138 is atrocious. She sings like I'd imagine someone weighing 500 pounds would.

And she's mostly been a bit chunky, but was looking much better at Vegas than she does now. She can afford to get her hair and make-up done for her online videos if Tori fucking Spelling can get hers done for all her SM content, then Britney can make the effort.

by Anonymousreply 152June 4, 2023 12:47 PM

I'm rolling my eyes so hard at all the Britney stans claiming she had a "decent" voice.No. No, she did not.

by Anonymousreply 153June 4, 2023 4:05 PM

Not having a voice isn't a dealbreaker. Do Nicki Minaj and Cardi B have good voices? Janet Jackson? Billie Eilish? Madonna?

by Anonymousreply 154June 4, 2023 4:57 PM

Nicki Minaj and Cardi B aren't singers. And all the other people you listed are better singers than Britney.

by Anonymousreply 155June 4, 2023 5:30 PM

Rihanna is a better singer. Never hear from her anymore.

by Anonymousreply 156June 4, 2023 5:37 PM

[quote] She sounds decent here.

R138 for the link. She sounds God awful. That girl has not had a single vocal lesson in her life, has zero natural talent and yet she has been singing since she was a child. The Star Search audience always applauded the little kids on that show for being loud. They equated that with belting. Basically when Britney was on that show she was just yelling, but she also added that shaky sound which I guess was her attempt at a vibrato.

So, the bad and weird vocal habits started young but nobody cared at her record company because they knew her voice didn’t matter that much. By the time she was performing in Vegas she was just completely winging it vocally. She sounded as bad as I do when I sing in the shower.

by Anonymousreply 157June 4, 2023 6:56 PM

Madonna, Janet, Kylie, Rihanna, Ciara and Taylor Swift are all better singers than Britney are because they all also involved with their music. Britney isn't musical like they are, she has everyone do the work for her. She's more like a Vegas showgirl. Only cares about being on stage. She's not different from Jennifer Lopez in that regard except J Lo can actually dance.

by Anonymousreply 158June 4, 2023 7:13 PM

I just watched a rerun of her Will and Grace episode today and was reminded of how good she was in it.

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by Anonymousreply 159June 5, 2023 1:15 AM

She wasn't good in it.

by Anonymousreply 160June 5, 2023 1:25 AM

There seems to be one poster on here convinced that Britney was a creative, talented individual. The one who keeps posting clips of her.

by Anonymousreply 161June 5, 2023 1:48 AM

If Daria was made into live action in the late 90s, she'd make a good Quinn Morgendorffer. Since Quinn had that similar fake cutesy bubbly image and voice in public. But is bitchy and aggressive.

by Anonymousreply 162June 5, 2023 2:16 PM

Jessica Simpson is a bit annoying but she seems genuinely sweeter than Britney.

by Anonymousreply 163June 5, 2023 2:20 PM

Good God, my dog could howl better than her singing. I couldn't even get past the first verse at r158.

by Anonymousreply 164June 5, 2023 4:37 PM

Britney and Jamie Lynn are both entitled and spoiled. I remember hearing Alexa Nicholas who was in the first two seasons of Zoey 101 talked about how Jamie Lynn was a big bitch and had an ego because of her sister. A total "do y'all know who my sister is?" Alexa and Jamie Lynn got into an argument and Jamie Lynn actually had Britney come on set and scold and scream at Alexa. That fact Britney who was 22 at the time did that to a 12 year old is ridiculous. And I understand wanting to stand up for a younger sibling but that's just really unprofessional and using her celebrity to be a bitch to a kid. She could have just talked to her and had them resolve the issue among themselves. Anyway seeing that video of Britney yelling at her kids and her overall temper tantrums on social media. Makes me see she has the mind of a spoiled child with no coping skills and maturity to take responsibility.

by Anonymousreply 165June 5, 2023 7:55 PM

Britney apologized for that but she's still a bit of a crazy bitch.

by Anonymousreply 166June 6, 2023 12:02 AM

A bit?! Ya think?

by Anonymousreply 167June 6, 2023 12:25 AM

Britney is " a bit crazy" in the way Madonna has "a kind of big ego".

by Anonymousreply 168June 6, 2023 2:14 AM

She's always been so dumb.

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by Anonymousreply 169June 6, 2023 2:30 AM

R169, she had no idea who he was yet she covered a Rolling Stones song on her second album? Dumb. And Britney stans wonder why others call her manufactured.

by Anonymousreply 170June 6, 2023 2:49 AM

She was stunned to learn Seacrest is straight.

The jury’s still out on that one.

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by Anonymousreply 171June 6, 2023 3:02 AM

It's awkward when celebrities post photos of themselves with the Getty watermark on it. It looks tack. Aren't they rich enough to just buy these photos?

by Anonymousreply 172June 6, 2023 3:10 AM

Who thinks Sam really loves Britney? She seems to treat him like crap. If she has no qualms yelling at him on live, what is it like behind the scenes?

by Anonymousreply 173June 6, 2023 6:11 PM

She's dumb and messy, but she used to be able to be charming. That's disappearing and it's a pity.

by Anonymousreply 174June 6, 2023 6:21 PM

R173 She likes him for his looks and the dick. He's a gigolo. It was the same deal with Timberlake, Jason Alexander (not George Costanza) and K-Fed. All about their looks. She's very shallow and stuck in a high school mentality. If stuck in her hometown, she'd get knocked up by the football captain and end up working as a waitress at a local greasy spoon.

by Anonymousreply 175June 6, 2023 6:22 PM

I really do feel bad for her sons. Her stans are attacking them when they're still minors, holding them responsible for not "supporting" Britney. They didn't ask to born to a situation like this and it's her job as their parent to actually be the supportive one. Her stans have zero empathy. Those boys have a mentally ill mother who acts like a temperamental child. Why would they be happy about her posting nude photos and dancing like a stripper on Instagram for the world to see? That's incredibly embarrassing for them. I don't understand why it's their responsibility to want to have a relationship with her when she clearly shows she doesn't care about their feelings. They are young and need to actually focus on their futures and possibly education. Hopefully to break their generational curse of having two trashy uneducated parents.

by Anonymousreply 176June 6, 2023 9:51 PM

R175 we know we she likes him! Just look at him! How much longer can stand being around her annoying, stinky deranged lunatic behavior is the question.

If she beats him like the documentary says that's not love! I imagine he's got a side bf on the DL.

by Anonymousreply 177June 7, 2023 12:29 AM

On the Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 178June 7, 2023 2:50 AM

Except, r175, Justin was only briefly hot. He looks like a fug hillbilly and has for a long time.

by Anonymousreply 179June 7, 2023 12:47 PM
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