Don't Mess With the Mouse!

I really don't understand his feud with Disney. Is it because it's a gay friendly corporation?

[quote]“Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?” Robert A. Iger, Disney’s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.

Shrewd of Iger to separate state from governor.

Dispenses with asking if DeSantis wants the revenue stream and puts it right into the lap of Floridians.

Team Mouse! May Disney OBLITERATE the Meatball.

^ Disney is not withholding jobs, this was a plan to move employees to Florida as part of a relocation. The employees are staying employed in California.

R4 - Why are you even visiting the DataLounge????

Most people do not care one iota about 'woke' and 'transgender' politics if it does not affect them directly.

We found our MAGA troll! Hi R4 !

r4, How is life there in Moscow? Glad they're keeping you employed.

Maybe one day, if you save all the rubles they pay you at the troll farm, you'll be able to visit Disney World.

DeSantis' m.o. is to punish any organization that doesn't go along with his BS.

Totally anti-business.

DeSantis' m.o. is to punish any organization that doesn't go along with his BS.

Totally anti-business.

[quote] Thus, Disney will seem out of touch and petty for withholding out jobs due to the trans agenda and other woke policies.

Disney World continues to break records for profits, so DeSantis' tantrums aren't hurting it in the least. What may actually hurt is people refusing to spend money in Florida (like me) so They stop going altogether.

Unsure exactly what Disney's "Trans agenda" is (something that this troll made up, of course) but is it "woke" to believe gays should be treated like equal human beings?

Don't fuck with me, Rhonda, this isn't my first rodeo

The parks will fine and this reversal does not impact attendance. Conservatives will still come to the parks while they complain online about woke Disney because the truth is that they don’t really care as long as their children and families are happy.

This is not related to DeSantis. The Lake Nona project was a problem since it was first announced. People whose jobs were in California didn’t want to be forced to relocate to the other side of the county, to a bad location in the Orlando area. Now Disney is being forced to cut costs because of the previous bad decisions with Disney+. The Lake Nona development had already been delayed and it was low hanging fruit to save money. I’m going to guess that all the continuing cuts at the parks will be associated with DeSantis too, even though the cost cutting predates the DeSantis feud.

^ Might as well get that good PR even if those cuts were going to happen anyway 😉

R14 - I believe it is all the fault of DeSatan.

DeSantis is making it much easier for disney to pull the plug on this initiative

[quote] ^ Might as well get that good PR even if those cuts were going to happen anyway

No way of knowing if the cuts were going to happen anyway, right?

If only corporations could just do whatever they want.

@r18, According to the article and what r14 said these cuts were happening anyway, might as well stick it to Ron and make him the bad guy

Dear God, cheerleading Disney.

How craven we've become.

Is no one standing the way of Fascists a better option?

Won’t Ron DeSantis PLEASE shit in my mouth!?!?!

[quote] According to the article and what [R14] said these cuts were happening anyway.

No, according to the article, Disney is blaming DeSantis for changing Florida's business climate.

I can't help but wonder if this would be different if Chubbo was benefitting financially on the side some way. Maybe he's just pissed Disney isn't offering bribes.

Disney are the fascists R22.

@r24, Yes, they're blaming Ron, but it was probably going to happen anyway. Disney is out politicking the politician. Very smart mouse

I don't know about Disney but Chubs is definitely a fascist. Removing access to books in libraries is big red alert.

[quote] Disney are the fascists [R22].

For daring to challenge the emperor? I think not

Are we saying Disney is fascist based on the type of entertainment they’re choosing to provide? Don’t go to a Disney then I guess.. it’s not like they’re controlling citizens’ access to factual information. Ah-hem.

That woke, black Little Mermaid is really pissing off Skid-Marked DeSantis. He should be hog tied and dumped in the middle of the It's a Small World attraction so he has to listen to that song on a loop for days.

^ Him and Megyn (There ain't no black Santa) Kelly would make a nice pair 🙄

They're an international mega corporation that has been caught using sweatshops, tax dodging, abusing employees, etc. many times.

They're often touted as an example of an evil corporation by leftists. At least they were when the left still existed.

^ All corporations are evil, but at least Disney is pro-Gay evil

[quote] They're an international mega corporation that has been caught using sweatshops, tax dodging, abusing employees, etc. many times. They're often touted as an example of an evil corporation by leftists. At least they were when the left still existed.

And suddenly the right cares?

[Quote]All corporations are evil, but at least Disney MARKETS ITSELF AS pro-Gay evil

Disney should sell the Florida property and move Disneyworld to a more receptive state, which I guess would need to be Georgia? The problem is that they need someplace far enough away from CA and warm enough so that they can operate all year long outdoors (and most of those places are MAGA heavy)

The Galactic Starcruiser is closing this year., it has been announced. Another Disney project that was losing money. They had cut back on it schedule and still couldn’t fill the hotel.

Please feel free to pretend that this is somehow related to the DeSantis feud.

@r36, What? They promote Gay initiatives, they hire a lot of Gays, of course who else would wear those silly outfits? 🙄

Some people don't get how huge Walt Disney World is. It's not going anywhere, ever.

Amazing how many times I've seen complete imbeciles (incl. on here) use that moronic "go woke, go broke" line and yet I haven't seen any evidence of it.

FYI: White trash imbeciles shooting at Budlight cans, didn't exactly take down AB.

@r40, I'm sure they look at Ron as being a temporary pimple on their ass

There are wall-to-wall gays working at Chik-Fil-A.

Exactly. Ron DeSantis is NOT going to make Disney World fold. Imagine Disney says, "Fuck it, we're outta here." They'd need a landfill the size of Rhode Island if they tore Disney World down.

R43, you’re telling me!

Disney is making Ron look like the ineffectual ass that he is. How can Ron take on Putin if he can't take on Disney?

R4 = Dumbvida.

More shit is about to come out about how his soft-launched (or limp-launched?) campaign is being financed.

[quote]they look at Ron as being a temporary pimple on their ass

Pics please.

Why are corps only evil when they don't lick the taints of your fat, fascist, Republican daddies R4? If they can't do enough for your Nazi peepaws, you love it when they make all of the rules including laws about the ladies bodies, working little kids in their factories, setting unsafe conditions for their workforce, etc.

Seriously, go fuck yourself R4.

R38, absolutely no one is linking the closing of the hotel to the DeSantis feud--but keep on trolling

You'll have to pry my evil corporation from my cold, dead hands!

I often wonder if NY Governor Kathy Hochul can tell NY-based Fox News what they can air and how they train their employees.

The Star Wars hotel... it could have been a success if the rates weren't so damn high. They will probably reopen a modified version of it in the future. It has Zero appeal to me; although I am Gen X, the franchise never appealed to me.

I live in Florida. Disney is not a favorite corporation of anyone in Florida.

However, Ron DeSatan DeSantis is pure concentrated evil. If Disney wants to kick DeSatan's a$$ and stomp the fucker flat, I support Disney 100%! If they start a crowdfunding site for an anti-DeSatan action campaign, I will gladly contribue $5.00,

R26 doesn't know what a Fascist is.

I love how dumb MAGAs are like, “Half those employees would’ve been imported from CA.”

Yeah, because having another 1,000 people earning 6-figure salaries would do nothing for the local economy.

These people are such idiots.

R4 is so funny. It thinks MAGAs are Americans!

Good one.

R4 = too ugly to be trafficked for sex

That’s okay, R14. We like this story better. Nobody bothers with facts anymore anyway so why should we. Your facts don’t matter. Thanks for nothing.

You can go fuck yourself now.

How quickly people choose to forget that the original quarrel with a state was with California over keeping the parks closed. Disney was then going to punish California by relocating some jobs to Florida.

Fuck Florida.

R61 Chapek is not Iger. He lacked the ability to be be diplomatic, likable, and win people over. His savage cost-cutting measures cost him his job. His tone deaf response to Don't Say Gay didn't help either. I'm not saying Iger was a perfect CEO. He made some bad calls too that have strained Disney financially by pushing for rapid expansion, but Iger is better at the interpersonal game, has more goodwill, and frankly, is more attractive. He is tasked with helping Disney navigate a lot: the Florida situation, Disney+ shedding subscribers, Star Wars park experience going bust, and MCU fatigue.

Long out of fresh ideas, I'm sure HBO is figuring out a way to do a new prestige show around an Iger-like figure. Who would play her?

[quote]History will write Bob Iger fired the first shots to save America from the extreme right.

Until they put the brick in Marsha's hand.

Please stop with the Marsha myth. The old drag queen/criminal/drug addict had nothing to do with Stonewall.

She was nodded out in the park during the riot by her own admission.

There are real heroes. Try harder.

[quote] Please feel free to pretend that this is somehow related to the DeSantis feud.

I will...

Any normal, effective governor would demonstrate to his constituents that he did everything possible to encourage further investment by the state's largest taxpaying corporation. But FatAss is seen as actively antagonizing them. He's term-limited and this whole thing was a show because he wants national office. So he will compromise FL's tax base and let Ft Lauderdale drown and Miami collapse into the ocean in service of his aspirations beyond Florida. There is absolutely no way Disney's news could be construed as a victory for his cause, it will be seen as his failure regardless of Disney's actual rationale.

[quote] I live in Florida. Disney is not a favorite corporation of anyone in Florida.

I hear you and believe that. It's still a black-eye for FL.

Californians despise Elon Musk but Newsom made conspicuous and reasonable efforts to keep him from moving to TX -- and Telsa was far from our largest taxpayer. That's effective leadership.

Good point r66, DeSatan is term limited, so he has absolutely nothing to lose by throwing his constituents under the bus.. there is literally nothing they could do. I hope if he’s nominated he loses Florida.

DeSantis is extremely popular in Florida. He has them all convinced that Disney is evil.

R6 Jeremy Strong. Who else ? Sara Snook can play his wife.

poor Florida

I bet there’s no Dole Whip in the Governor’s mansion either.

Omg - just walked by the Disney store in MCO

[quote]Chapek is not Iger. He lacked the ability to be be diplomatic, likable, and win people over. His savage cost-cutting measures cost him his job. His tone deaf response to Don't Say Gay didn't help either. I'm not saying Iger was a perfect CEO. He made some bad calls too that have strained Disney financially by pushing for rapid expansion, but Iger is better at the interpersonal game, has more goodwill, and frankly, is more attractive.

I thought Iger would be better at smoozing and would work to assuage DeSantis' concerns about Disney interfering in politics, but if anything, he's made the situation worse.

@r71 "poor Florida "

Just wait until the state is up to it's ankles in sea water 🙄

Warner Bros. tried to warn Disney...

As someone who has worked with Disney for years, they have managed to outsmart EVERY attempt at a boycott. Kids are addicted to Disney like crack, and MAGAT parents are fucked.

Yes, Ursula was based on Divine. Suck it.

DeSantis is not boycotting Disney.

R78- retard.

@r78, No, but it seems he would like everyone else to... Ain't gonna happen rednecks love DisneyWorld

DeSantis has not called for any boycott of Disney World.

^ He's implying it by trying to make Disney the evil woke leftist

How stupid are you? No, he has not called for a boycott. Assault, yes. Which is worse.

Somebody got disrespected in the Kingdom of the Mouse

Rhonda may not have used the words "boycott Disney" but he used equally nasty statements about the

1. Biggest taxpayer in the state

2. Largest employer in the state

3. The place he got married!

"They don't run this state!" "There's a new Sherriff in town!" (LOL - said while wearing high-heel boots!)

r85, those are the reasons he would never boycott Disney World or ask anyone else to.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

^You first nitwit.

White trash can find another trashy beer to consume (and probably owned by AB, too), but there is nothing like Disney, so good luck boycotting them if you're MAGAt trash.

Just like he never told libraries to ban books….

The DeSantis apologist needs someone to shit in his mouth endlessly.

It's time for Rhonda to introduce a state personal income tax to prepare for lost revenue.

He wants you to live your life the way he thinks you should. I saw a clip the other day where he was talking - I didn't really listen since he pisses me off - and his wife was next to him nodding in agreement with his every word. She's a fucking bobblehead.

Woke Disney Fights Back! Hell Yeah!

Anyone who uses the word "woke" should be shot in the face R94.

[quote]It's time for Rhonda to introduce a state personal income tax to prepare for lost revenue.

Maybe Rhonda will gain some taxes on the $17 billion dollars of Disney investment that parks chairman Josh D'Amaro acknowledged in the same memo as the Lake Nona announcement.

[quote]D’Amaro reiterated in his memo that the company still plans to invest $17 billion in Florida over the next 10 years, including the addition of around 13,000 jobs. The company currently employs more than 75,000 people in the state.

I wonder how much it would cost overall for Disney to leave the shithole state of Florida? Is it a financial hit they could take?

Theme parks like Disney's cost at least a billion to make when done right. For example, under Eisner, Disney's. California Adventure came in at around $500M. But that was in 2000-2001 and it was done on the cheap and felt it. Iger spent at least one billion fixing it just a few years after opening. In years later, additional, costly expansions were also added abd to have that done all at once likely would have added another billion to the price tag. Disney isn't like Suzlx Fkags where e erythjbg us bought offline and given a shroud and a little theming; more or less, each attraction is designed and built for the exact spot assigned it. So, even if Disney wanted to, they can't just recreate WDW in a day or even a few years. But--AS we saw with the Lake Nona plan they just pulled from Florida__what they can do is, instead of Florida, concentrate all their efforts on California and invest there, instead. And the Florida cruise industry that Disney reignited with their cruise ships and terminals? Those boats can be homed in other states, taking that part of the cruise industry with them, out of Florida. The $17 billion Disney planned on spending in Florida - - while not announced, included a long-rumored and allegedly long-planned fifth Florida park - - will be in serious jeopardy. Iger doesn't fuck around. Bit he won't move the Kari's. There's just too much there to re-create elsewhere and the only states with weather that couod accommodate such a year-round operation are red states that would likely offer the same challenges we're seeing Florida give Disney now.

Oh Jesus. Forgive my typos. Very tired.

[quote] Disney isn't like Suzlx Fkags where e erythjbg us bought offline

Disney isn't like Six Fkags where everything is bought offline

[quote] Bit he won't move the Kari's.

But he won't move the parks.

Damn, I just cleared out a lot of my blocked poster list, and must have accidentally removed r95. Back you go.

[quote]The DeSantis apologist needs someone to shit in his mouth endlessly.

I imagine anyone who sinks so low as to defend DeSantis, enjoys that kind of thing.

R99 I cackled at your typos. Sorry. Glad you didn't have a stroke and are well.

Disney knows very well that it will outlast DeSantis. It’s playing the long game

I’m so glad we cut through all the bullshit to land on THE biggest point and most critical idea to consider in this huge mess: Iger is fucking smoking hot. OMG, can you imagine how he throws down? There is no doubt he is rough, and I mean that as a compliment. Hot hot hot.

Carry on.

Iger does cut a dashing figure.

So sad to be leaving Disney now. *sniff* *sniff*

I'm waiting for Disney to announce it's moving Disney World to a spot near Atlanta. It will be closer for East Coast and Midwestern folks. Closer for Texans, too.

I think Florida's population will rebel at this. Tourism in the entire state will be affected. They'll sweep DeSantis out of office by demanding his resignation.

When I was a kid, we drove to Disney World from our motel in Pompano Beach. We were so excited we didn't complain about the drive. We fell asleep right after we left the park and slept the whole way back to our motel.

I know people who vacation in Clearwater and Sarasota and take their families on a one day trip to Disney.

It’d be easier to move Rhode Island than to move WDW.

Walt Disney World is about the same size as the city of San Francisco.

Still, it is moveable in the sense that they can replicate it. It’s just a template they use for all these parks anyway — obviously, the *construction* would take years and cost billions upon billions. If GA’s governor was smart, he would be publicly wooing Iger right now. If Louisiana governor was smart, he would be doing the same. Same with Alabama and Mississippi. Think of the JOBS this would bring these shitty states. Florida WILL miss Disney. If Iger does move it out, think of what will happen to DeSantis! He will be completed hated, for real.

They could do it in south GA where land is cheap and there’s no industry aside from agriculture, so it could be just a couple hours from the ocean. The towns closest to it will revive their beach hotel industry (plus restaurants and retail) so it is a win-win.

Yes! And lord knows there won't be anything to worry about in those bastions of intelligent voters known as Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama!