Archie and Lili - The "Black" Sheep of the British Royal Family

I love my grandchildren.

[quote] Archie and Lili - The "Black" Sheep of the British Royal Family

I don't know her.

This spiteful wretch Kate Middleton did this on purpose. I'm sure she's behind this just to spite Meghan. The bitch is seriously jealous of Megha n. You will be Queen of England someday bitch, relax

Ugly.

Dear Kate, stick to being a "Princess. "

That’s truly a sweet photo. Hard to believe the old doll is gone.

Edward's son is going to be very handsome when he gets older.

I love that Kate is now the unofficial photographer.

Archie & Lilibet will be Photoshopped-in later on.

[quote] I love that Kate is now the unofficial photographer.

She doesn't do anything else all day long.

Kate is useless.

R7 James will probably go the Prince William route- good looking from around 16 to 23, then hits a wall. Hopefully he will keep his hair., that’ll help him looking handsome.

This whole family needs to go away.

Meghan's supporters seem to be the most ardent defenders of the "one drop" rule.

These children have one grandparent who identifies as black (and she has quite a bit of white ancestry herself), so they barely count as mixed race.

The older boy in the last row, with brown hair is beautiful. Whose child is he?

R15 you obviously can’t read so there is no point in me answering your question here.

Kate has given birth to a King. Her job is complete.

R15 see R7.

It’s not a coincidence that Charlotte is directly in the center.

[quote] [R7] James will probably go the Prince William route- good looking from around 16 to 23, then hits a wall.

That's also the route his father took.

His Uncle Andrew's good looks lasted until about 33.

With Charlotte standing directly above Queen Elizabeth II, it's amazing how much she looks like her great-grandmother.

I mean, the resemblance is striking.

R7, I agree.The young, now Earl of Wessex will be handsome when he grows up. Thank Heavens, he takes after the Rhys-Jones side of his family.

The children are all adorable there.

And I do hope the children of Mr. and Mrs. Harry Mountbatten-Windsor of Montecito, CA, USA take after their mother's side of the family. I do not find Mr. Harry Mountbatten-Windsor of Montecito, CA, USA attractive at all, while I do think his wife is.

The two in California are always going to be thought of as “the others”.

[quote] The two in California are always going to be thought of as “the others”.

Lol.

Bravo R24, bravo.

Its disturbing the number of posts alluding to some sort of sexual attractiveness to this young child

Archie

R22 must not have seen Meg's original face.

R26, you fucked up prudish frau cunt — nobody is saying they want to have a go with him. Saying a boy will turn into a handsome man is not creepy, predatory, or disturbing. It's just what it is: Sometimes you can tell from an early age that someone will turn into a good-looking adult.

r7 He already is handsome. It doesn’t make one a pedo to acknowledge beauty in a minor.

[quote] Kate has given birth to a King. Her job is complete.

She gave birth to an heir.

[quote] The two in California are always going to be thought of as “the others”.

But to make things clearer on the TV show, they'll be called "The Walkers."

This seems like a real asshole move. It wasn’t necessary to release ANY photo to mark the what would have been the queen’s birthday, much less this particular one. And the fact that Kate took is it salt in the wound.

Harry and Meghan are awful, but this seems like taunting them via their kids. “Ha, ha, you fucked up and nobody likes you so now your kids are excluded from their larger family and the accompanying privileges.”

Yeah, it’s their fault, but this seems so unnecessary. It makes it more plausible that Harry and Meghan have some legitimate gripes. Kicking someone when they are down and you have already won is not a classy move.

R33, there are no group pictures including Archie and Lilibet. That's a result of decisions made by Harry and their mother. Does this mean that other pictures of the Queen with her adored children and great-granchildren should never be made public? What rubbish.

[quote] Its disturbing the number of posts alluding to some sort of sexual attractiveness to this young child

Go to Hell, dumb cunt.

[quote]She doesn't do anything else all day long.

It’s nice that Kate has a real hobby like photography. Meghan should find one, other than grifting.

There's no reason she shouldn't post these photos it's a nice moment. It's not like there are other portraits being hidden away somewhere that include Harry and Megan's kids.

r33, your logic makes zero sense. What does this have to do with "kicking" Harry and Meghan "while they're down"? They were the ones who made the choice to leave the UK--it was not foisted upon them. Should the family never ever post photos of the Queen's great-grandchildren together because Archie and Lili are not in them? It's Harry's and Meghan's decision entirely they're not there--they were the ones who wanted to leave in the first place. The Queen wanted them to stay.

Harry’s children are toddlers. No toddler can be a black sheep. Look up the definition of the word, OP. You have to have done rebellious deeds to become a black sheep.

[quote][R22] must not have seen Meg's original face.

R28, sorry, but I disagree. Meghan's mother is a very attractive woman, who looked beautiful the day of the Sussex wedding. Elegant simplicity came to mind.

And R38, I could not agree more with you. That's a wonderful family photo. It's a shame that the parents of Lilibet and Archie chose not to be at Balmoral then.

If you look at the framed family pictures in the background....there's one on the piano that looks like Meghan holding Archie.

[quote] Harry and Meghan are awful, but this seems like taunting them via their kids. “Ha, ha, you fucked up and nobody likes you so now your kids are excluded from their larger family and the accompanying privileges.”

Yup . How stupid is kate middleton and her mother and Camilla to not think that people will see this for what it is. Do they think everyone thinks like their loyal subjects in the UK?

Doesn't Philip look like he's a vampire who's about to crumble into dust, and is trying to work up the energy to drain the blood from a child, before his corporeal body dissolves? I mean if you ever wanted to cast someone to play a Verdilak...

Harry and Meg are FOOLS to keep their kids away from Charles and the rest of the royal family.

They ought to be sure they were doing everything in their power to get Charles attached to them while they're still little, and to make damn sure the kids got plenty of playtime with their royal cousins. If Meg had any clue about high-level social climbing, she'd be making damn sure that Archie spent all possible time with his same-age cousin Louis, and that they'd go to the same schools, even if it meant gritting her teeth and making nice with the Princess of Wales!

Who BTW, has proven herself to be smarter than Meg. Meg won't lift a finger to get her kids into royal and aristocratic circles, OR a good spot in Charles's will, while her fellow middle-class climber Kate has firmly ensconced herself as part-of-the-family. Seriously, nobody thinks of her as an in-law, more as heir to the matriarchy.

Besides Harry's two children, also not shown are Eugenie's and Beatrice's children. It's seems safe to assume they were also not at Balmoral at the time.

Hence the part of the caption mentioning "...some of the Queen's great-grandchildren."

[quote] Besides Harry's two children, also not shown are Eugenie's and Beatrice's children.

Only the favorite ones were there, no blacks and no offspring of pedophiles were invited

[quote]If Meg had any clue about high-level social climbing, she'd be making damn sure that Archie spent all possible time with his same-age cousin Louis, and that they'd go to the same schools, even if it meant gritting her teeth and making nice with the Princess of Wales!

Meghan has always had zero interest in living in the UK. The only way her kids would be going to the same schools as Louis is if she sent them off to board while she continues to live in southern California.

[quote] No toddler can be a black sheep. Look up the definition of the word, OP.

[quote] You have to have done rebellious deeds to become a black sheep.

Exhibit A.

Exhibit B.

Exhibit C.

I laughed so hard at Exhibit B. That kid was testing his mother’s boundaries that day! Kate handled it well.

Lol!

I told you bitches that Kate is a steely, tough, resilient, one who, in the service of her family and position, will cut a bitch.

A silky, seemingly benign, sweet, pic that is, in actuality, a visual stiletto that landed all the way into the heart of California.

Well, "Waity Katie" waited, alright. She waited to serve her revenge cold.

Whooo Boy. Do not fuck with, cross, or play with the Princess of Wales.

R52 is a writer for the Daily Fail.

I don't know how you can breathe, with your head so far up Kateorexia's tight ass.

R3 uses English like a typical cunt of coloratura.

[quote]The bitch is seriously jealous of Meghan.

There's nothing to be jealous of. Meghan is reviled across the whole world.

See? That's the whole problem with this stupid Kate v Markle rumble going on in the mind's posters like r53.

According to them, apparently, we're also supposed to pick a side. No, you unhinged moron, at r53. YOU picked a side.

Not that I owe you an accounting, but, I'm just a very bemused, entertained observer with no dog in the fight.

I rooted for Meghan Markle and Harry at first. I thought, this is interesting, let's see how they play their cards. And they blew it.

I don't give a shit whether you agree with, or disagree with, my assessment of Kate at r52

I'll just continue to rely on what my own eyes and ears have informed me of her over the last 15 years or so : Kate Middleton is, now, where she planned to be many years ago when she enrolled at the same college as William.

I give the woman her due. I would never want to be on her wrong side. Her perfect, sweet exterior cloaks a killer.

I see even Markle wants an ocean and a continent between them.

Kate has put that grifting bitch on notice: Stay the Fuck Away.

Come on R53 - I know that it’s a big scary word but you can spell it: “Cholmondeley”.

If you’re going to repeat that tired bit of gossip (which was retracted by its author Giles Coren when he sobered up the next morning) you could at least get the name right.

You Sussex Squaddies need some new material.

It's hilarious how the unhinged Sussex stans demand that NO photos of HM and her great grandchildren be taken without Prince Merchie and Princess Merchibet who live, you know, an ocean away. Morons.

Another thing about that pic is that, in the absence of Archie and Lillibet, it distances the Sussexes further from Brand Royal.

Kate is boring. That's a feature in her favor; part of the job description to be Queen.

But this wily, shady, brutal side of her is anything but dull.

Just to confirm, then - some of you think that last August Kate tricked the dying Queen to pose on a couch at Balmoral with her two youngest grandchildren and as many great-grandchildren as she could corral and take their picture, knowing that on the Queen’s birthday in 2023 she would release the picture to the public without consulting anybody in the Buckingham Palace press office or Communications team, just to stick it to the Sussexes? Really?

I suppose that once she’d uploaded the picture last night, she necked her Crystal and hurled the empty flute into the fireplace, cackling like a witch as flames licked the ceiling.

I don’t doubt that the Princess of Wales is made of strong stuff but this scenario is just a little far fetched, or are some of you really that naive?

Kate is a shit photographer. Why do they always release her photos when they do nothing to dispel the perception she’s vapid and boring?

I did not, at my posts at r52 and r56, suggest anything of the kind by Kate as you describe in your first paragraph, r61.

Who's being naive? I suggest you consult your mirror.

I do think that when it was decided that the Prince and Princess of Wales posted that pic, it was not lost on Kate that "some" of her great-grandchildren would be conspicuous by their absence.

[quote] I suppose that once she’d uploaded the picture last night, she necked her Crystal and hurled the empty flute into the fireplace, cackling like a witch as flames licked the ceiling.

I believe that's known as a Straw Man Argument.

I don't need to resort to a caricature of a witch to describe Kate. The reality of her suits me fine.

Hey R52, R56 and R60 - you may not be naive but you’re certainly self-obsessed! I didn’t mention anyone in particular in my post and there are many posters upthread who also believe that Kate planned this.

But well done on making it all about you!

BTW the middle paragraph of my post in no way resembles a straw man argument (I don’t think you know what a straw man is) but rather an attempt at humour to lighten the mood.

Typical Capricorn behaviour

To spite the uptight fraus, I'll continue talking about their looks. Despite Charlotte's resemblance to her granny, I think she's turning out a lot prettier. The girl in red next to the queen is, as people used to say, going to break some hearts.

As to whether releasing the picture is meant as a slight: the Sussexes always went out of their way to align themselves with QEII. The fact that they only have one press picture of her looking at newborn Archie and the official christening portrait with him might bother them.

[quote] I suppose that once she’d uploaded the picture last night, she necked her Crystal and hurled the empty flute into the fireplace, cackling like a witch as flames licked the ceiling.

Yep. Pretty much.

The Tweet where this picture was posted includes the credit "📸 The Princess". Oh, to be a fly on the wall in Montecito when MM read that...

Haha read the comments at the bottom of R68's link.

It's the same bitchfest that's going on here!

Whata the big deal? so what Archie and Archibet didn't take a pic with the old witch ..

Lol, the rage repomse when you call out pedos confirms their sickness

Meghan isn't he type of biracial woman who her whole life assumed she was better than oyher Blacks bdcause of her light skin and Becky good hair. She " passed" as white everywhere she went. Meghan got the shock of her life when she arrived at Buckingham Palace and found out she was navigating unfamiliar waters. She was not only dealing with regular whites these were COLONIAL whites. The ones who thought they were better than any white, black, brown etc. Biracial Megjan and zero chance of surviving that family. To pconfirm my point, look William picked sides of his arch enemy, the man who drove his mother to the grave! Over his own brother because Harry is the cause of bringing Meghan into the family

I mean * is the type of biracial *

If Princess Diana were alive, I wonder what relationship with Kate would be like. Can't imagine it would be positive

Princess Diana would not have approved ofWilliam siding with Camilla against his own brother, and her son Harry

R72 a drunk driver called Henri Paul drove Diana to her grave, which really doesn’t confirm your point. Whatever your point is - it’s hard to tell in your rant.

It’s a perfect reminder to Meghan that no matter how much turmoil she causes or how many lies she tells, the royal family is always going to win, especially Kate and her children. Meghan needs to see what she gave up for herself and her kids when she feigned mental issues and suckered Harry into fleeing to California.

This is another example of how the press bullshit is actually supportive of Markle's nutcase narrative and that of the Sussex stans.

This is a photo of the Queen and some of her younger grandchildren and great-grandchildren on her last birthday at Balmoral. Archie and Lilibet are not in the photo because they weren't there. Nor are the most recent of the Queen's great-grandchildren, the children of Eugenie and Beatrice.

Should the Queen not have had her photo taken on her birthday with some of her grandchildren and great-grandchildren? Is it not permissible for her family to remember her on what would have been her 97th birthday?

Ffs, it’s not the photo. It’s not the release of the photo. It’s the timing of the release of the photo. The guard is changing and Harry and Meghan are shut out. This photo comes across as not only gloating over that, but gloating over the fact that their children will be also excluded going forward. And the children haven’t done anything wrong. It’s a bad look for Kate.

[quote] Meghan got the shock of her life when she arrived at Buckingham Palace and found out she was navigating unfamiliar waters.

I call bullshit on this.

This assertion raises a couple of questions that Tina Brown so skillfully alluded to in "The Palace Papers".

To be clear, I'm a woman of color myself. I don't need Tina Brown to explain to me a thing about living a life, trying to get ahead, navigating bigotry, sexism. I've lived it and learned it with the help of the people in my life of ALL ethnicities and colors.

What I'm getting at is that Brown took pains, in the context of Markle's assertion that she didn't know what she was getting into with the BRF and its environment, to point out that Markle is the kind of striver who did meticulous research on whatever she was asked to do in her career.

But then, all of a sudden, those research skills were absent when she met Harry. She even went on Oprah to say she never googled the BRF.

If that's true, she either A.) lied about that, or B.) is so hubristically reckless that she didn't think she needed to become informed about the BRF.

And no, that's not letting the BRF off the hook. Are you kidding me? That White, Wealthy, Privileged, Royal, Elite Milieu would intimidate anybody, and especially if you're a woman having to develop a relationship with other women in that environment.

Here's the unpalatable secret about heterosexual women: Many, many of us simply do not like other heterosexual women. My own theory is that the need to compete over looks, men, status, position is conditioned into us and yes, to use a word that is ridiculed now, but is still has meaning, that behavior is all in service to the patriarchy.

So, I do have sympathy for Markle when she was first introduced into that environment. That could not have been easy.

I simply do not buy it, however, that the Royals didn't, at first, sincerely welcome Markle. I believe the reports that they were hopeful about her and Harry, seeing her as breath of fresh air that the BRF needed at that moment, and, still could use.

But, Markle thought the BRF would adjust to her, rather than she adjust to them.

Hell, even the dead, but, when alive, White tall, blonde, beautiful Diana couldn't achieve that.

Why Markle thought that she could, and didn't, is Markle's fault. If she'd have done her research, waited, not rushed into marriage with Harry, perhaps some modicum of common sense would've have changed her mind about marrying him.

[quote]This photo comes across as not only gloating over that, but gloating over the fact that their children will be also excluded going forward.

You people are psychotic. It has nothing to do with Meghan.

Charlotte’s position betrays her ambition. Watch your back, Georgie.

Given that the Sussex have been extremely reluctant to reveal any pictures of their children, which is, of course, their right, the shocked reactions of their stans to this photo are silly.

Harry, who apparently hated the press intrusion during his childhood, most likely is a driving force behind this choice of isolating the children from any photos.

Only more recently have pictures of the Sussex kids been popping up.

Frankly, I don't much care. That pair of little ones, given their parents, will have enough to deal with. They should be completely off limits. And it is, to me, somewhat troubling, that now more pictures are appearing.

Harry & Mrs. Harry could have made a point to visit the Queen, who was obviously failing, during that summer at Balmoral. They CHOSE NOT TO.

Don't choose to go, OK, that, too is your right.

But then, surprise, nobody from your branch of the family will appear in any photos taken.

Deal.

People like R72 have apparently never watched any Meghan videos (in particular pre-Harry ones). Thinking that Meghan's failure to land with the family is due to her being more darkly complected than the rest of them is much less plausible than the fact that they recognized her for what she was.

There's no reason other than social-climbing for college-educated, ambitious, worldly, lefty Meghan to have fallen for the uneducated, Taliban-shooting prince. Add to that her brand of insufferable new-age, self-help speak. Imagine having to make nice with barefoot, torn jeans Meghan as she babbles on about her commitment to female empowerment, her favorite wines, her amazing run with Suits, and her dear friends Serena and the Soho House manager.

Hey. At least I’m no longer “that woman.”

Viscount Severn sounds so much better than the Earl of Essex.

The only thing worse than the Sussexes in all of this nonsense is the press and their conjecture giving this endless oxygen.

The problem with Meghan isn’t that she is a social climber. There are no bigger social climbers than Kate, her sister, and her mom. The problem with Meghan is that she isn’t good at it. She did OK in LA where her crude approach was not unusual, but landing Harry was a stroke of luck. It’s not that Harry was out of her league - he’s not. But the relationship catapulted her into an environment where more subtlety was required. And that is not her strong point. It seems like she’s been laying low more recently. Maybe a new PR team has her chained to a radiator with her devices out of reach.

I don't t junk any middle-class climber going after a Prince would like rver recieved a warm welcome, but I do think Meg's welcome was warmer than most.

Not because she's fabulous, but because they were truly desperate to get Harry married! He really needed someone to be his live-in minder, the kind of constant caretaking you can't ask of even the most devoted staff member.

“It’s a bad look for Kate”, R78? Do you seriously believe that Kate set the whole thing up?

That’s a good thing R85 because he’s not the Earl of Essex.

I really can’t stand Kate Middleton.

R89, it’s her photo, it wasn’t circulated without her knowledge. I don’t think there was a “set up.” But I also doubt the message was completely inadvertent, although that’s possible.

I just think it was a bitchy thing to do. There were other choices that could have been made that would not have been hurtful. And there are very few things as hurtful to the parents of young children than a threat to hurt or disenfranchise their children, even if it’s a consequence of the parents’ own actions. And NOBODY would know that more than Kate.

Sure, there is a very valid argument that a silly photo doesn’t compare with some of the things Meghan and Harry have done, but that’s not the point. The point is that it makes Kate and the BRF look bad. They should be moving on. Instead it makes some people scratch their heads and wonder if maybe all the drama was a little more two-sided than what’s been previously implied by Harry and Meghan’s ham handed PR attempts. It’s pretty clear that I am in the minority on this, but I’m not a minority of one. I still think Harry and Meghan were probably nightmares, but the photo made me go “huh.”

-R78

R52 agree! And couldn’t be more proud of Kate! Meghan fucked around and is finding the fuck out.

I’m sure Kate is an asshole but she’s my asshole in this fight. No question that she’ll come out on top.

If the BRF considered every action they took about whether it would for would not offend the Duke and Duchess of Overseas, they'd barely move or even breathe.

Oh for fuck's sake, R92, Harry and Meg were repeatedly invited to get-togethers at Balmoral, and refused every fucking time. Their children haven't been excluded or frozen out of royal circles, their own parents have made the choice to KEEP them out.

So Kate couldn't have included the little brats if she'd wanted to. She didn't have a choice between publishing a picture of royal-family children with the Harkle sprogs or without them, she had a choice between publishing a picture of as many royal-family children as ever came to Balmoral, or publishing no photo. Harry and Meg did not leave her with other options.

r87, word for word with you and an astute observation.

In fairness to Markle, the only thing I would add is that she, unlike the Middleton sisters and brother, wasn't born into or conditioned to be a skillful climber.

Unlike Markle's family situation, the Middletons were an intact, close family and made themselves into millionaires.

The Middletons made sure that their kids were of an environment where they could socialize and be educated in circles where it was no big deal to be in the social milieu of the Royals and other moneyed people.

So, Markle, to use a cliche, had to hit from home base, not from 3rd base, like Kate Middleton.

Still, one wonders if the positions had been reversed and it was Markle on 3rd base, whether she still would've reached home.

R36, well played. Scored a direct hit!

Social climbing seems like such a purposely snobby, passively critical way to describe it. Like a lot of families they educated their children to give them best advantage in life. Kate hit the jackpot, admittedly. (Actually Pippa hit it best... billionaire with no public obligations.) This notion of Ma Middleton as showing Mrs. Bennett how it's really done is a Daily Mail prejudice.

I can't believe Kate would do a bitchy thing to Meghan, after Meghan's been so nice all these years.

Let's start a list...

The Kate-Haters are so full of conspiracy narratives and senseless jealousy it's insane.

I understand that for some people, the instinct is to root for the underdog. But jeez, Meghan wasn't an underdog. Her dad had way more influence and pulled way more strings to get Meghan in situations and positions than Kate's family every did. All the Middletons ever did was send they daughter to the same school as William, which was, quite simply, a really great college that many aspire to go to. (Hell as an art history major even I looked into Saint Andrews myself back in the day)

They didn't kidnap the guy and threaten to break his kneecaps if he didn't marry their daughter. Whatever it was that Kate did or had that made William fall in love with her, it was hers and hers alone. And she's crazy about him. She's been loyal to the guy for 20 years. She didn't come in like a wrecking ball and destroy WIliam's entire life, steal him away from his family and fuck up the entire infrastructure of his family. She's been an ideal wife and mother. There is no story here.

Meghan, on the other hand, literally orchestrated a multilevel, multi-year, multi-pronged long con to bag her English prince, Just Harry. It was a deliberate, cynical campaign, backed by research, recruitment, lies and manipulation (like wearing his dead mother's perfume on their first date, faking a pregnancy early on to get him to commit, setting up a faux humanitarian profile etc).

Meghan Markle is not the underdog. She's not a victim. She's a straight up psycho.

R78, what the fuck are you on about? The photo was released because it was the Queen's birthday and it had been taken last year on her birthday. The timing is entirely appropriate and, aside from Kate's children there are another seven children in the photo. Are you suggesting Kate was gloating over them too?

If this sweet photo offends Sussex stans, then they need to ask themselves why Harry and Meghan never bothered to spend any time with the Queen or give their children that opportunity. If Charles is photographed only with his grandchildren by William at his coronation and not with his grandchildren by Harry, then there's only one person to blame for that, and it's not Kate.

Loads of people go to good schools in the hope that among the outcomes will be marrying well. You think everybody's at Harvard just for the degree? The price Kate pays is she married so well she's got all the sniping to contend with, unlike normal people who bagged the offspring of the differently successful and just get their cushy lives. Compare Kate's performance since marriage with her present sister-in-law's. Kate's doing the work.

[quote]I told you bitches that Kate is a steely, tough, resilient, one who, in the service of her family and position, will cut a bitch.

Charlotte is going to have the same instincts.

Those kids are trashy looking. Edward's son looks normal, but the rest look trashy. That brassy hair on Charlotte reminds me of kids who live in a trailer park.

And the picture's quality is HORRIBLE. Just horrible. The lighting is weird and it's blurry. Such a bad arrangement of the children too. Why would they release a picture with such poor quality?

[quote]To be clear, I'm a woman of color myself. I don't need Tina Brown to explain to me a thing about living a life, trying to get ahead, navigating bigotry, sexism. I've lived it and learned it with the help of the people in my life of ALL ethnicities and colors. What I'm getting at is that Brown took pains, in the context of Markle's assertion that she didn't know what she was getting into with the BRF and its environment, to point out that Markle is the kind of striver who did meticulous research on whatever she was asked to do in her career. But then, all of a sudden, those research skills were absent when she met Harry. She even went on Oprah to say she never googled the BRF. If that's true, she either A.) lied about that, or B.) is so hubristically reckless that she didn't think she needed to become informed about the BRF.

Don't be so stupid. . All the research in the world will never prepare anyone for what it's like to be in the royal family. And you know that. And that's what Meghan meant. You should know that. So once again, Don't be so stupid.

R100, please come and sit by me. What is your sourcing on the perfume, fake preg, etc.????

In my heart of heart I’m agnostic when it comes to Kate versus Meghan. Both are beautiful, but I tend to view the former as boring, phony and calculating, and the latter as disingenuous, fake and annoying.

That said, releasing a photo in which the children of Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie are notably excluded just seems like a real cunt move. Everyone knows about the rift between William and Harry, but the York sisters are close to Harry so the picture seems like a “fuck you” to them as well.

The Queen is dead. Releasing a photo that invites speculation on what would’ve been her birthday is just…trashy.

LOL Sure Jan. We know why the Sussex kids weren't there. Do YOU know by Bea and Eugenie's kids weren't. You don't. So quit yammering on and wringing your hands over this being some devious planned slight. It's a family photo of the kids who were present, not some heinous plot to exclude the Duke and Duchess of Overseas and their York allies.

Agree, r102.

"Frau-A-Saurus Apex", in all its glory, is performed by Kate to boring, thrilling perfection, and, I write that as a compliment.

As r102 points out, though, that comes at a cost.

Still, the perks are tremendous, too.

"A List"? That's beneath her.

Best -Dressed Woman on Earth? A given, and I defy anybody to post a link that disputes that.

Wealth? Status? Fame? Position? Check, Check, Check, Check.

In fact, if viewed form a certain perspective, William is the one who "married up". He outta be thanking his Royal stars everyday that she waited for him. She adds to him some much-needed spark.

MM has yet to balance out any of her endless criticisms of her time with the Royals with any observations or recollections. This is a cardinal sign of Emotional Immaturity. You and I know that along side any legitimate frustrations the woman may have or had, there were also so, so many positives, so many blessings, happy memories, and pinch-me moments.

This is why she is untrustworthy. She employs a black-and-white thinking style that is a hallmark of stunted emotional and psychological development.

POSITIVE: The Queen invited her to join them all for Christmas at Sandringham . MM was the first unmarried lady friend ever to have the invitation.

POSITIVE: $100,000 engagement photo gown?!?! And millions of pounds in clothing thereafter!!

POSITIVE: Access to private jets, security detail, A-list "friends" and premiere experiences of all sorts. Wimbledon, arts performances, banquets, dinners, parties, pageants, the balcony at Buckingham. Etc.

POSITIVE: Charles, The Prince of Wales, walked her down the aisle.

POSITIVE: $50,000,000 wedding. Gown by Gee-vaun-shee. Invite all the A-listers you want. Here's a black preacher, here's a gospel choir (but she goes on Oprah indicating that the Royals were racist)

POSITIVE: The Queen appointed Meghan as VICE PRESIDENT of the QUEEN'S COMMONWEALTH TRUST, a very prestigious and meaty appointment (even though she had zero qualifications for this role). She could have committed herself to this for the rest of her life and have been completely stimulated, challenged, happy and fulfilled -- assuming she is a true humanitarian, which she most certainly is NOT)

POSITIVE: Having true power and influence that reverberates the world over. Basically the most visibility, power and influence that a human being on planet Earth could ever aspire to. If she really were into causes and humanity, she would NEVER have sabotaged this privilege and opportunity to have this much power, this much influence and this much visibility to to good for the world.

POSITIVE: Being a part of a large extended family. She pretended that she had always wanted that. Well, he it is, the giant family. Aunts, uncles, cousins of all ages. If she could have taken a time out from comparing the size of her nut with that of Kates, she could have understood the incredible blessing that being a member of this family was. Not just for her but specifically for her children. So much abundance. So much opportunity for success. Tons of aunts, uncles and cousins, awesome family gatherings, the most idyllic childhoods playing in gardens and forests. Playing hide and seek in literal CASTLES. The dream family, the dream childhood.

This is the one that pisses me off the most, honestly. Because she's fucking with other peoples' family relations -- sabotaging her children's rights to be a part of the Royal family with all of its safety, love, protection, socialization, financial and social perks, etc. If I were a parent and had the great luck to raise children in such a family, I would STFU and do whatever was required, as a gift to my children, so that they could be a part of that family.

Archie and Lili will never get to experience any of it.

Because MM is a self-absorbed cunt, a shit "mom" and a stunted, damaged human being. Maddeningly, she's also too proud and haughty and immature to realize that she needs help. Isn't it the way, that the people who are the most wounded and need the most psychological support, are too wounded and stunted to seek it out?

She's literally a fucking mess.

I will shay though, that if she had married a strong man, and not Harry, this would have all turned out completely differently. It's because of Harry's own deficits, weaknesses and stuntedness, as both a person and as a husband, that Mexit came to pass.

I'm laughing out loud at r105's trolling.

I'm far from stupid.

You might want to, however, look into the psychological meaning of "projection"

Turns out the whole thing was photo shopped . You thick royalist fraus will lick up any fake shite the Windsors spoon ya. Dolts.

R112 "THE WHOLE THING WAS PHOTO SHOPPED!!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!"

Actual Twitter: "Some (bored people with time on their hands) *speculate* that Louis may have been added in after"

Jesus fucking MARY!!!!!!!!

Who cares if he was or not? He's still one of the grandkids. Maybe he was sick the day of the photo, so they had to fudge it in post?

It's not like they photoshopped the Darfur orphan into the picture to give the Queen street cred. It's still her grandkid. It's still legit.

If Louis hadn’t been there, the children would have been arranged differently.

I concede Earl of Wessex sounds better than Earl of Essex, but Viscount Severn beats them both.

Regardless of my opinion of Kate, which isn’t good, the photo wouldn’t be composed the way it is of Louis weren’t actually there. And what would he have been doing while his parents and siblings were in the same place?

OMG the ESL of that Tweet.

" It's said that Kate Middleton seems caught in a very big lie about Queen Elizabeth."

A Very Big Lie would be that she has no grandchildren at all, and they've faked an entire elaborate backstory with a cast of character, none of whom actually exist in real life. And Kate recruited actors to all pose as the imaginary grandkids in the photo.

But no, it's an anonymous fellow photographer debating whether Louis was actually in the photo that day, or if he sabotaged the photo by making silly faces and had to be reshot and added in afterwards.

This is not a "Big Lie."

R104 is Meghan.

Katie was an expert photo shopper. She actually has a skill. Who knew.

R79 excellent post. Especially about Meghan’s history of being ultra prepared for each calculated step in her life. She is not a sloppy person. So why would she suddenly become free and easy about not researching Harry?

Hell, I doubt anyone today who has internet access doesn’t do a Google search on the person they’re considering dating. There’s not anything wrong with being curious about a person you’re interested in.

The fact that she continues to dig into the notion that she made zero effort to do some sleuthing before/while dating Harry is so ludicrous and unnecessary. And makes every other assertion of hers suspect. Their documentary was riddled with references of “see! Meghan didn’t know about (fill in the royal blank) so she couldn’t have possibly researched the family.

Also agree that the older members of the RF welcomed her, but don’t doubt William/Kate/Harry’s friends were leery. But even that’s not uncommon. Who among us hasn’t put our friend/sibling’s new love interest to the test a bit before accepting them. And in Meghan’s care it was compounded by her entering a very closed society, being an American actress, and, let’s face it, by being a less than authentic person. Also being someone with seemingly few—if any—close, meaningful relationships.

I admire how she hustled her way into an acting career. She has little talent but she does have considerable grit and determination.

I am surprised she couldn’t leverage those skills to parlay her marriage to Harry into a secure and successful perch. All she had to do was navigate/ignore the bitchery of the aristocratic class and use her platform to make her life whatever she wished.

Instead, she torpedoed her chances. And gave her enemies all the ammunition they need to sail above the fray, keep their traps shut and let the press do the dirty work.

She married a weak, dumb-dumb, who for all his bluster of needing to protect his family, is incapable of anything but making bad choices. He’s an anchor around her neck and she has come to realize that. The smartest thing she’s done is have 2 kids with her loser husband and shamed Charles into making them princess and prince.

She no longer needs Harry, who has sold his birthright for several million dollars and zero prospects for the future.

The ridiculous fantasy she keeps peddling—that this is the love story of all time and they’re still giddily in love—strains credulity for any married couple of 6 years with kids, let alone a couple who have self-immolated if the world stage and have lost the respect of anyone who matters.

She’s going to dispose of him—and soon. She does do her research! She is scrappy and canny! So she knows that the only path out of this mess is to dump him, villianized him and fully reclaim the mantle of victim.

This was the summer holiday at Balmoral that Harry and Meghan were invited to but declined- despite the Queens age and frailty . They WERE invited so drawing inferences that their children weren't included because their regarded as the black sheep of the family is nonsense as is the idea no photo from the holiday should be shared because it might upset people who declined to attend. If I were to be invited to a friends big birthday party but refuse to go and then regretted my decision afterwards when I heard how fantastic the party was. Would I have the right to tell other people not to share photos of the party because eg on social media because it would upset me and members of my family?? No of course not yet this is effectively what some people are arguing on this issue.

r92 Why is a photo of an event or get together that you choose not to attend hurtful?? That makes no sense.

As R121 points out, Meghan, Harry and their children were invited to Balmoral by the Queen to spend a weekend. They declined despite knowing the Queen was dying of cancer.

r105 and yet the royal family offered staff and family members to act as mentors eg Sophie to help ease her in and gradually learn the ropes and Meghan declined. She was told she could continue with her career and not do royal duties but declined that too. So the innocent lost victim all at sea narrative is false and just Meghan trying to play Diana reincarnated for victim status.

R106 I have accrued a small, but amusing and compelling, cache of inside knowledge on subject of the Meghan long con. I wish we could have a glass of wine and chat face to face. It's simply too awkward and clunky to type it out here!

Let's just say, there is a paper trail of emails and texts, a boatload of disgruntled ex-friends leaking info, etc. Her entire web of lies of constantly on the verge of coming unglued. I would not be surprised if everything starts to unravel this summer, right after the Coronation. The objective currently is to get through to Coronation Day with minimal drama. After that? Anything is possible.

Mummy, daddy why don't we know our cousins, aunts and uncles, or grandfather on either side?

Why is grandma Doria our only relative?

R120 Don't you understand? She DID prep. The prep work was in pretending to be an impartial observer, and not a sycophant to be attractive to Harry.

She told Harry that so she had to continue with it.

Either that or she lied. Like when she told Oprah she stopped reading it "because it didn't make any sense." Yet in her documentary, she's there with her laptop open to The Daily Mail saying there's whole tab devoted to her and she was trying to fight it.

She knew about the story making Kate cry. So she is doing her research to play her part to control the narrative. She wanted good press only.

Thank You, r120

[quote] Also agree that the older members of the RF welcomed her, but don’t doubt William/Kate/Harry’s friends were leery.

Agreed, and I'll take it a bit further when it comes to William. My sense of that is I keep it simple. William just dislikes Markle, and would, no matter the circumstances.

I can be fair about, and sympathetic to, Markle about that. That had to be deeply uncomfortable for her.

And, I do blame William for a mean act towards her that was deliberate and unnecessary: the infamous "scarfing" video. He knew cameras were there when they exited that church. They always were there since he was born. He knew she wanted, and, let's be real: needed, an image that captured, on camera, those two having a pleasant brief interaction.

He refused to do that, refused to throw her an inflatable toy she could hang on to while she was in tricky waters; waters he knew from birth.

That one I give her.

I admire William's public professionalism and persona. But I have no doubt, that in private, behind the scenes, if he doesn't like you, Whoa. And he's the type that doesn't have to deign to be overtly rude. Probably, he deploys a chilly, silent blast that serves that purpose.

But who knows what would have been the outcome if Markle had taken stock of what r110 posted? Maybe those two would've come to a family truce if she had put in honest work at being a working Royal?

[quote] She’s going to dispose of him—and soon. She does do her research! She is scrappy and canny! So she knows that the only path out of this mess is to dump him, villianized him and fully reclaim the mantle of victim.

Agreed, too. If she has any notions of marrying money, I truly wish her good luck, but I have my doubts.

[quote]And, I do blame William for a mean act towards her that was deliberate and unnecessary: the infamous "scarfing" video. He knew cameras were there when they exited that church. They always were there since he was born. He knew she wanted, and, let's be real: needed, an image that captured, on camera, those two having a pleasant brief interaction. He refused to do that, refused to throw her an inflatable toy she could hang on to while she was in tricky waters; waters he knew from birth.

What if she had already burned her bridges between them, prior to Scarfgate? Do you think he had an obligation to this scheming rando to throw her a bone, a photo op, if she had already been outed as the manipulative fake?

What if the rumors about her yachting and her prior connection to Andrew was known by them by this point? None of us really have any idea when the rest of the Royals know and how early they knew it. Just because Meghan is capable of faking it for the camera, you think it was mean of William not to play fakey fakey in public with her?

While reading this thread, I keep thinking of Meghan shoving Archie’s face into Diana’s picture in their documentary and I cackle each time I think of it.

R129, fakey fake is a must for members of the BRF. For reference see QEII with Dump. Or any public appearance by anyone in the family.

By the time of "scarfgate," hadn't Meghan already made Kate cry and been caught trying to snap photos of Charlotte, and who knows what other shit she pulled. William in no way owes her any kind of PR photo-op.

It's Ok with me, r129, that you and I are coming from two very different perspectives.

I'll respond to your 2nd paragraph first.

I refuse to clutch my pearls over Markle being a purported, rumored Yacht Employee Sex Worker. So fucking what, even if that's true.

In the Annals of Whoredom, there are plenty of wealthy, revered men, who might not have transacted their body for money, but they performed any manner of crimes that created real victims.

Donald Trump comes to mind. Never mind Melania. He whored-out himself and the Office of the US Presidency to the Biggest Johns Who Ever Johnned: Mohammed bin Salman, Prince of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Vladimir Putin.

As for your first questions.

At the time of the "scarfing", it was still early enough to want to try to make the best of things, to help out the situation even if you dislike her. It's referred to as "Some Things Are Bigger than Me."

William failed at that and I stand by my post about it at r128.

And what r131 said, too.

r133

For you to surely be confident of your claim it was early enough you'd have to be sure of what had already occurred privately in the family? For instance if it is true she wa caught taking pictures of the Williams children or was seen abusing staff or obviously trying to play the victim or imitate Diana?

No decent father would put his morally questionable new sister in law above his children's welfare.

The couldn’t run a comb through any of their hair?

The little gay boy is the only presentable one, of course.

THIS ^^ Meghan had already been caught taking pix of the Cambridge kids inside of KP. She had already acted like Bridezilla and had made staff quit. She had already invited them over to Not Cot wearing ripped jeans and barefeet. They had already had a fight in the Cambridges' apartment where she said "don't wave your finger in my face." It was already rotten in Denmnark by the time of Scarfgate.

[quote]She has little talent but she does have considerable grit and determination.

Like Eva Peron.

The talk of William freezing her out on the church steps reminds me of that video of Meghan on the USO tour where everyone on the stage froze her out.

She's got a lot of chutzpah (or delusion).

I wrote R99 and R102, just to establish my bonafides.

I find the photography inside KP (it keeps changing, it's also said to be Anmer and sometimes does and sometimes doesn't involve Charlotte) and especially the yachting story to fail the smell test - it's internet bullshit that won't die (a Rose by another name, if you will.)

There is no way the yachting story could have been kept under wraps. She leaves a trail of resentment wherever she goes, do you suppose she was Miss Congeniality to the other yacht girls? Too many disgruntled people saying 'what a bitch', too many book writers, too many journalists, too much Daily Mail... no way that thing could be kept under wraps.

She's an asshole but not a prostitute.

I don't know what the facts are, or aren't, with regard to Markle taking pictures of William's children.

As for Markle's bullying, I'd LOVE to read that internal investigation report about it.

Pure speculation on my part, but I think it's being held in the event Markle writes her own book. And I wouldn't doubt that its existence is what makes Markle hesitant about writing a book.

My understanding is that some people believe that the Sussexes have had access to that report and have read it. I'm not so sure. That doesn't strike me as the BRF's style. Seems to me the better part of torture would be to have the Sussexes twist in the wind, wondering what it contains.

You know a lot of those are rumors, right r137? No one knows what actually happened. And I’ll venture to say they were behind closed doors, not openly in front of everyone and the press to see, but I do believe there were disagreements.

But ripped jeans and bare feet? Quelle horror!

at [R9] -- are those actually pics of the the Little Paupers? I gasped.

R142 Did you even watch the Netflix doc? I was referring to Meghan herself describing what she was wearing as a way to make herself seem so down-to-earth and relatable, and then making a huge deal about how Kate and Wills were taken aback when she wrapped her arms around them to give them big spontaneous hugs. She made the whole "barefeet and ripped jeans" razzamatazz a part of her story, not me.

And guess what? Just because people in England, or in royal circles, aren't raised to give big sloppy bear hugs at the beginning stages of getting to know one another, doesn't make them wrong and her right. She milked that cow for all it was worth in an attempt to make them appear cold.

These kids look like inbreds.

Substitute the Royal couch for green grass and you see no difference between them and James Van der Beek's redneck looking kids.

Where is the ugly,creature looking kid who stole the spotlight during Kate and William's wedding.

Did they hide her away in an asylum?

Social Media is saying Louis was photoshopped into the photo by kate.! Quelle horror!

the red flower is blended into Louis shirt. If the flowers were behind him as they would be in actual photo that shouldn't be there as another person rightly explained.

Look at the plaid on the left side of the Queen's skirt. It doesn't line up. She wasn't in the picture. They inserted her. That's why the picture has this weird disconnect between her and the kids.

I'm thinking a different picture of her was in the middle originally.

Louie was the only one added. Look at the arm behind Charlotte.

To me it looks like QE is photoshopped!

The lengths Kate Middleton will go, smh

Huh….also look at Edward’s son. His arm looks huge and fake.

Its certainly possible the lighting on him seems to be coming from a different direction to on the others

Everybody has the light or sunshine on the left side and just Louis on the right

some photographers are saying that even the Queen is photoshopped along with George and other weird stuff in the photo

Kate deepfaked the queen just to spite Meghan. Petty

Reductio ad Hitlerum

I’m thinking maybe Louie pulled some antics and his arm was photoshopped. Hah I’ll give Kate the benefit of the doubt. But the arm thing of Edward’s son (too lazy to google his name) is weird. I think the queen is just sitting on a blanket.

You are all unhinged.

Just because I took a magnifying glass out to examine the photo, R159?

I think the whole hugging story is suspect. Does Meghan strike anyone as the open, gregarious, affectionate type? At least without a camera present?

The kiss kiss type.

Well, this thread was fun while it lasted.

Rubbish ! I got out of my death bead to sit on that couch with those screaming brats.

Why would they go to the trouble of shopping Louis in? He’s one of the youngest and it wouldn’t be a big deal if he wasn’t in the photo. Kate could have just said he was taking a nap.

What is scarfgate?

"As for Markle's bullying, I'd LOVE to read that internal investigation report about it."

I'd LOVE to be a fly on thep wall when Harry reads the... when someone tries to get Harry to read the report! Or tries to read it to him!

Harry has an amazing capacity to refuse to believe things, and was quite upfront about it in his horrible book because he doesn't realize it's a problem. In the early days of the marriage he was told several times that Meg was bullying the staff, and he completely dismissed the reports, like he dismissed the idea that a drunk driver killed his mother (he saw the tunnel and thought a drunk driver would have no trouble with it). He saw Meg being nice to the staff with his own eyes, saw her buying them pizza and being polite, so that has to be the whole truth since that's what he saw! So no, he's never going to believe that she's bullying the staff, not if he sees it with his own eyes, because as long as he stays attached to Meg he's going to believe her bullshit about other people bullying *her*... and her just defending herself.

We need an openly gay royal

This photo is poorly photoshopped

Riiiight, R169, so with all the resources at her disposal and knowing that as part of her plot to embarrass the Sussexes the picture would go viral as soon as she went rogue and uploaded it, Kate used a badly photoshopped version which would be intensely scrutinised by people such as the crazies on this thread.

Seems quite plausible.

[quote]Why would they go to the trouble of shopping Louis in? He’s one of the youngest and it wouldn’t be a big deal if he wasn’t in the photo. Kate could have just said he was taking a nap.

kate's the one who supposedly took this horrible photo. They wanted one last picture of the old lady and all the kids. Kate fancies herself a photographer.

They had to photoshop the kid in because he can't sit still or behave. You've seen his behavior. We all have. He's a brat. There's a real problem there. He 5 yrs old and still sucks his thumb. He slapped his mom in the face in public. I've never seen a child behave like he does. Especially in public. His dad needs to stay home and discipline the kid.

Prince Louis doesn’t have a “mom”, R171.

Please share your qualifications in child psychology - you seem extremely well versed.

Sorry - extremely stupid, I mean.

Well, now that even non-experts have pointed out the photoshop, I really don’t think Louis wasn’t there. I just think he was acting out and they fudged the photo a bit. Otherwise he fits right in.

R170, it’s hard to deny the evidence. You can see it in the photo. But I really think, as I said, it was just a simple doctoring of the photo because Louis wasn’t behaving. Why wouldn’t he be there? He was there, his brother and sister were there, as well as younger cousins.

Prince Louis is Rain Man

^ FFS.

R171, and everyone else. You’ve NEVER seen a child behave like that?I’m have no children and even I wouldn’t say that. He was bratty, but even my own nieces did far, FAR worse in public and they grew up to be lovely, accomplished women.

Can we get back to the original lunge of the post? That Archie and Lili have been taken away from their family?

Ugh excuse the typos at r176. I’m two martinis down and two to go.

The boy has developmental problems.,.look at his face and eyes. His social behavior.

I know a few artistic kids who behave and look like Louis. Nothing wrong with that.

I hope the Royal family our of embarrassment don't lock him away in a home like they did with the Queen's cousin Nerissa

Autistic *

I love you, R176. No apologies.

Unlike his father, William, who was a heartthrob in his youth THEN got hit with the ugly stick later in life, George is already an unattractive child, and unlikely to improve.

Prince Edward's son is going to be a knock out.

...autistic not artistic

Young Prince Rain Man

Was sassy little George in the photo?

He’s not autistic r183. Autistic kids are in their own world. Louis definitely is not. Geez, I love these dime store psychiatrists.

Developmental problems - like those so obvious in these two pictures, R179? Very autistic in the way that he won’t engage or show emotion.

I guess Kate photoshopped these as well?

R171, we've seen how well his mom's discipline is going. BADLY.

[quote]You’ve NEVER seen a child behave like that?I’m have no children and even I wouldn’t say that. He was bratty, but even my own nieces did far, FAR worse in public and they grew up to be lovely, accomplished women.

What kind of brats are in your family? My relative's children behave. I've never seen a child smack his/her mother in the face. I've never seen a child who is almost 5 yrs old who sucks their thumb either. There is a problem with this child.

Actually I can see it now: “Brat Louis refuses to walk so Kate has to push him around in a wheelbarrow”.

R188 your relative’s children behave? You have none of your own, then? But you’re an expert on child-rearing, naturally.

Can you please provide a link to a photo of Louis sucking his thumb at nearly five years of age - dated, of course.

R188 your relative’s children are Stepford children. It’s actually shocking to me that you never considered that most kids act out and are bratty. Are you sure your relative’s children aren’t abused? I’m not an expert on child rearing but neither are you btw.

Geez just Google “kids on planes”.

R188 when you refer to your “relative’s children”, do you mean that you have only one relative with children? Or perhaps you meant your “relatives’ children, which would indicate a somewhat larger statistical sample.

Give it up, sycophants. Louis is slow. The child's behavior at the jubilee was outrageous. You are deluded if you believe otherwise

R193, please let’s meet here in 10: years and see. I’ll be here. You’re overreacting big time.

Does anyone remember the kids of some politician who was being sworn in? They had dead eyes and matching gingham dresses. R193 thinks all kids should be like that.

Btw r193, good thing you didn’t have kids. You’d be a ball buster.

I see, R193, so no proof, then?

Nice use of “sycophants”, R193. Was that Word of the Day on Merriam-Webster?

People who think kids should all step into line and never push the boundaries were abused by their parents as children and cannot stand to think that there are kids being allowed to be kids and to grow and develop without experiencing the terror of the the birch branch or belt

Is Lady Louise cross eyed?

Children do not behave like litte Rain Man Louis did at the jubilee, regardless of how out of control the kid is, he would not dare slap his mom in the face, then make faces at her or punch her in the mouth . It is only autistic kids, bless them, whose behavior are simialr to Louis. It is not normal out of control behavior. It is developmental disorder the young lad has

[quote] Is Lady Louise cross eyed?

I believe that has been fixed

Who is the litte Albino one next to George? Who does she belong to? These kids all look like Children of the Corn

R193! You’re back. It’s as if you never went away.

Just to confirm:

You have no qualifications in child psychology.

Your relative’s (or maybe your “relatives’”) children always behave.

Still waiting on your proof of Louis sucking his thumb at nearly five.

Proof of how his facial expressions show that he’s autistic.

Proof that he was misbehaving in Balmoral (that’s in Scotland, R193) last August and so his “mom” (as you call the Princess of Wales) had to badly photoshop a picture of him into the group family photo as part of her plot to embarrass the Sussexes on a global scale on the dying Queen’s birthday on 22nd April.

Or are you just a lonely, bitter childless frau with a strange fixation on a child who you have never met and will never know.

I’m going with the latter, R193.

Now you’re turning your focus to the other children, R201, having failed with Prince Louis?

You really do hate children, don’t you, R188, R193, R195 and R291?

Why do you think that is?

Louis’s behavior at the Jubilee was not good. And it’s not likely that he is being raised in an environment that fosters misbehavior, especially in public. But kids change really quickly and any kid can have an occasional, out of character bad day. He might have had a very low grade physical ailment that interfered with his sleep the night before. He might have been wearing uncomfortable shoes. He might have developed a sensitivity to a food that resulted in an upset stomach or a skipped meal. If he acted like that everyday it might be indicative of a problem. Acting like that once or twice is completely normal.

I recall Mike Tindall saying there were big bowls of candy in a room set aside for the royals at the Jubilee pageant. All the kids were hopped-up on sugar.

Meghan criticizes British media over reports that letters exchanged with King Charles played role in her coronation absence

Meghan, the wife of Britain’s Prince Harry, criticized the British media on Saturday over reports that letters exchanged with King Charles played a part behind her decision not to attend his coronation, her latest confrontation with the press.

The Daily Telegraph reported Meghan had written to the now king to express her concerns about unconscious bias in the royal family. It said the letter was sent following her 2021 comments in an interview with Oprah Winfrey that the family had raised concerns about how dark her son’s skin would be.

It reported the Duchess of Sussex did not feel she had received a satisfactory response to her concerns.

“The Duchess of Sussex is going about her life in the present, not thinking about correspondence from two years ago related to conversations from four years ago,” a spokesperson for Meghan said.

“Any suggestion otherwise is false and frankly ridiculous. We encourage tabloid media and various royal correspondents to stop the exhausting circus that they alone are creating.”

Prince Harry will attend the coronation next month without Meghan, who will remain in California with the couple’s two young children. Their eldest, Archie, turns four on the same day.

Harry and Meghan stepped down from royal duties in March 2020, saying they wanted to make new lives in the United States away from media harassment.

You have to consider also that Louis is the youngest child. Parents tend to be more lenient with the "baby" and allow them to get away with things they wouldn't have in the older children. He's just testing the boundaries of what he can do.

I thought it was verboten to call them ‘the black ones’. They instead were to be referred to as the ‘shaded ones’.

Louis was simply overstimulated by all the action. This is normal "overstimulated kid/kid on sugar/family get together behavior for a four year old.

A four year old.

This is not autistic behavior.

Autistic kids, when overstimmed, rock back and forth. They go internal. They go fetal. They don't act like the belle of the ball.

Four year old kids on sugar who's routines have been disrupted for the weekend act exactly like little Louis did.

And this is why you can tell the people who don't hang out with kids from the ones who have kids, or who have a lot of kids in their family. He was so easy to decode.

And so NORMAL

R205, 209 all making excuses for little Rain Man

[quote] “The Duchess of Sussex is going about her life in the present, not thinking about correspondence from two years ago related to conversations from four years ago,” a spokesperson for Meghan said.

I read this as even Markle knows, now, they shouldn't have gone there. Not because they should not have, in and of itself, which it was, but because they're feeling the consequences of it.

It's not quite Back, Meet Pedal, but here is certainly a tinge of that.

^ Oops meant to write:

"which it was" - which they shouldn't have and "but here is certainly a tinge"- but there is certainly a tinge.

Criticizing a 5-year old. Can always count on the trashy, deranged Sussex Squad to keep it classy!

With all due respect, R210, would you kindly fuck off? God you're boring.

Oh give it a rest R213. If the roles were reversed and it was Archie displaying developmental disabilities you people would have a field day mocking him

Most of us feel sorry for Archie, considering what a disaster his parents are. Now run along and finger yourself while eating some Doritos in honor of your grifter goddess Megsie.

Diana's two sisters are closer to Harry and his kids than they are to William. This says a lot

Prince Louis makes me laugh.

R217 hey! I love cool ranch Doritos! Ate a bag today.

R217 Proof please

Also, it doesn't mean diddly squat

And if he is r210?

So is he a brat? Or is he autistic?

[quote] This photo comes across as not only gloating over that, but gloating over the fact that their children will be also excluded going forward.

Good Lord, what a load of paranoid bullshit.

Just because some of you think of Harry and Meghan 24/7, you think the rest of the royal family is too. They've moved on. They are having lives of their own.

R210 trolldar can be really handy at times. Yours shows that you have a particular obsession with the behaviour of royal/royal adjacent children. Today it was Louis (variously “autistic”, “developmentally challenged”) his Tindall cousins (you called them albinos and “children of the corn” - maybe you were threatened by their blonde hair, R210 - why would that be?) you also brought into your deranged narrative the late Queen’s cousin Nerissa, who you said the royal family had institutionalised (they didn’t, she was institutionalised by her parents the Hepburn-Stewart-Forbes-Trefussis family, cousins of the Queen Mother - institutionalised before she became queen - you’ve been watching The Crown, haven’t you, R210?

Going further back today you called out Kate and William’s bridesmaid Grace van Cutsem, asking whether she had been institutionalised as she looks “developmentally disabled”. Why is that your focus given that the wedding was over ten years ago?

Bit of a theme here, eh R210? You seem to have issues with fair haired children who are close to the royal family. Why do you think that is, R210? Why do you hate them? What is it about yourself that you hate so much?

[quote] Diana's two sisters are closer to Harry and his kids than they are to William. This says a lot

Yes, and what it says about the sisters doesn’t speak well of them, does it?

One thing that everyone can agree on is that it’s another substantial victory for Kate and her children.

r217 How have you concluded that?

There's absolutely no evidence for that at all, r217. Like all of Harry's family, Diana's two sisters are closer to William and his kids, if only for the simple fact that they're in the same country.

Even more telling is that at the unveiling of Diana's statue, one of Diana's sisters goes to stand with William and Harry and she instinctively stands right next to William and seems quite intimate and familiar with him, while placing herself further from Harry. At about 1.50 in this video. There's a scene of Harry talking to his two aunts earlier in the video, and it's very stiff and formal.

Prince Louis's behavior at the Jubilee was normal and developmentally appropriate. It was George and Charlotte's behavior at the funeral that was NOT normal and developmentally appropriate, because kids of that age don't sit quietly for hours and never break character, unless they've been carefully trained to do so.

So if Louis is coming to the coronation, I presume his training in sitting quietly for hours is progressing well. Maybe they got a dog trainer to come in and teach the "long sit".

It has to be hard for sassy little George to sit still when you know he would like to take the opportunity to belt out a show tune before the gathered audience. He be like I've got Memory ready to go if these people wanna hear some shit.

Here's a video of when William graduating from the Air Force and receiving his RAF wings in 2008. Kate, just his girlfriend then, attended with William's aunt, Sarah, and her daughter. She's obviously known Diana's sisters for literally half her life, over 20 years, and is very close to them. The idea that Diana's sisters and their families are closer to Meghan and her family than to Kate and her family is farcical. See around 5.27 and also 9.07.

William's dad was the one awarding the wings, by the way.

George and Charlotte weren't sitting absolutely still at the jubilee, person with American spelling at r227. There are videos of them joking around with their cousins, the kids of Zara and Peter Phillips. They're just well behaved. You sound ridiculous trying to claim they're developmentally retarded. You sound like the developmentally retarded one, a whole grown-ass adult passing judgement on little kids on the basis of a few videos.

How are those kids "black sheep" when THEY haven't done anything wrong? When Princess Charlotte gets older, she'll put them all in their place, lol. She reminds me of one of my granddaughters.

Oh for fuck's sake, R230, your reading comprehension would get you failed in a 4th grade class!

I never called George and Charlotte "retarded", you did, I said their behavior wasn't *normal*. Normal children squirm and whine and pull out electronics if required to sit still and quiet for ages and ages or a whole hour, but George and Charlotte sat there at the funeral like a perfect little lady and gentleman, never smiling or yawning or frowning. That requires the extensive training that's part of growing up a modern royal - learning how to never EVER show your true feelings in public.

That's part of the job, never showing your real feelings, because any unguarded moment or let an inapprpriate feeling show for one moment, lest a bad picture be splashed over the world media or some regular working stiff getting a royal visit at their job accuse a royal of bullying. That's how William's children are being trained to behave at public events, and it sure as hell isn't normal.

What are you talking about, r232? George and Charlotte were showing their feelings at the jubilee. They were laughing and smiling, obviously happy, enjoying the show, having fun with their cousins, although George got a bit annoyed when one of them was poking him in it back of the head too much. We even saw Charlotte being a typical "bossy" sister of brothers, just typical kid behaviour. They were simply well behaved and polite. Being well behaved and polite in public is not the same as being emotionally suppressed.

You guys, R232 is talking about George and Charlotte's behavior at the FUNERAL. The FUNERAL.

NOT THE JUBILEE

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"Normal children squirm and whine and pull out electronics" - Lol, so because George and Charlotte don't do this, they're not normal, are emotionally suppressed, and have arrested development.

Maybe they've just been raised well and understood that it was their great-grandma's big day and wanted to watch the show and enjoyed being with their families. It is possible for kids not to be stuck on video games all long.

R213 Derangers keeping it "classy" LOL

Mucho stank . Deranger fumigant spritz..

^ Katie revised her photo shop . The party planners daughter actually has a skill. Who knew.

^ Her major "skill" was getting pissed in her underwear.

[quote]Maybe they've just been raised well and understood that it was their great-grandma's big day and wanted to watch the show

They're talking about the FUNERAL. Was that QE II's big day?

Nice try, R140 - but, as you know, that picture was taken while she was modelling. I assume that you’ll be adding it to your sad little portfolio of “deranger” memes?

All that you are doing is proving how parochial, unsophisticated and pretty basically stupid, the average American such as yourself is.

Would you like me to post some examples from Meghan’s portfolio:

Simulating (presumably) giving a guy a blow job in “90210”

Fellating a sausage on a rooftop bbq in her “Suits” days? Etc?

R240 it’s probably best, “sis” that you grab your 2L tanker bottle of Pepsi and head back to Celebitchy or LSA. Must be time for your diabetes injection.

I thought Louise’s wonk eye had been fixed?

R240 maybe stop off on your way home with your gurlfrens. Keeping it classy.

George and Charlotte's behaviour was perfectly appropriate for a funeral.

"George and Charlotte sat there at the funeral like a perfect little lady and gentleman" - It was a funeral, how were they meant to behave? Squirm around and play video games? You don't even know that they were perfectly still, the camera wasn't on them all the time.

Charlotte apparently cried after the funeral. Is that enough emotional expression for you?

R241, it's even more fucking stupid to complain that George and Charlotte were well behaved at a funeral and dissing them for not being "normal" children because they weren't pulling out electronics and squirming around.

R244 Louise had at least one operation to correct her strabismus (or as you so sensitively call it, her “wonk eye”). It’s way better than it was but sometimes it takes another later to completely fix it. As mine did - one operation at 6 and a second at 13.

By the way, the point of the jubilee is because r227 started trying to make his claim that George and Charlotte aren't "normal and developmentally appropriate" by dissing their behaviour at the jubilee, because supposedly they were sitting quietly for hours and never breaking character". Then when it was shown to him that they weren't sitting quietly at the jubilee, but were laughing, enjoying the show and playing with their cousins, he tried to switch it to their behaviour not being appropriate at the Queen's funeral, because sitting quietly and respectfully is apparently not appropriate behaviour for a funeral. That poster also overlooks the fact that there was singing at the funeral.

To clarify, r227 needs to compare like-with-like. Was George and Charlotte's behaviour at the jubilee what he deems "appropriate" for kids their age?

R228 “sassy Little George” really hasn’t taken off for you, has it? Maybe try some new material?

R232 I am guessing you are American? (I am an American and have lived in Britain for a long time). British children are very different than American children. I do not have children but I have lots of them in my life and I also volunteer at the local primary school. British schools, especially the calibre of schools which the Cambridge/Wales children attend, focus a great deal on calmness, politeness, and sitting still with attention and respect. I remember the first time I walked into the primary school I was floored as the children quietly walked into the hall in single file and calmly took their seats and stayed that way, engaged but polite, for 50 minutes. When I visit my American family, none of the children behave that way. It's not part of the culture.

It does not surprise me in the least that the older Cambridge children are able to sit at attention for that length of time. It is a basic expectation in British schools.

Both Diana's sister and niece were ignoring Kate in that clip @ r229 . Then she forced conversation with the niece

Diana's siatera VistaHarry and Meghan all the ttime in California . They were present at the christening earlier this year

Maybe James, to the contrary, will have inherited more durable genes from his mother, so that his hair and looks will endure long past his mid 20s (as long as he goes easy on the booze and ciggies).

Is Louis autistic?

R253 = demented Meg stan.

We don't know if Diana's siatera VistaHarry and Meghan all the ttime, r254. All we know is that they were supposedly at the christening of Princess, when she was given the name Princess, due to the weird announcement apparently made by a Sussex spokesperson to People magazine or whatever.

I'm sure they love both their nephews from their late sister and wish them well.

Exactly, r252. If what r232 describes is the expected behaviour of children in the US, no wonder there are so many mass shootings by young people in the US.

[quote]That's how William's children are being trained to behave at public events, and it sure as hell isn't normal.

It is normal, it's just unusual. But then again, their lives aren't usual. The royal family understands the job (they call it duty) and so they act accordingly. It is not some miracle or Stepford vice that a 7 and a 9 year could sit through a funeral service. If you watch them in public, at all occasions, their parents are constantly checking in with them.

William has never really had any scandal right?

He peed in public once, who hasn't?

He had an affair, many people, including his parents have.

I think he's quite regal, if not a little boring. He doesn't get enough credit for not fucking up.

For those who are triggered by the mere mention of little Rain Man's autism, you have nothing to say about R229's post?

I meant R237's post

R246 photo of Charlotte. The brat looks like she is crying because she didn't get her way. Spoiled little bitch

Why are all Kate's kids so ill mannered?

^Hi Meghan!!^

WHET to Kate's drug addicted , con artist brother? Did they marry him off to some foreign bride?

This the real London. The real UK today. Yet you derranged fraus and your beloved tabs are living in Windsorland. Wake up twits.

^ Why should they cover the real world. The circus is in town!

R256 Is Louis autistic?

No just a violent sociopath like his Pa.

That vid is the climate change Earth Day protest from yesterday. It has nothing to due with our universally loved and respected Royal Family.

[quote][R246] photo of Charlotte. The brat looks like she is crying because she didn't get her way. Spoiled little bitch

There's something really wrong with you. I hope Charlotte hunts you down someday and sees that you get what you deserve.

R272, are you as upset over photo at 237?

William looks so violent . Scary. Didn't Camilla tell a friend " this boy has serious anger issues" ?

Poor Kate.

Nice try, r261.

R274, I invite you to contemplate the massive difference between experiencing anger and being violent.

Everyone experiences anger, that's the difference!

R276 Sussex trash aren’t big on nuances.

Photo at r270, the face of a deranged man who tried to strangle his young baby brother , allegedly

She was at a fucking funeral, you halfwit R264, hence the caption for the picture and all the black clothes. Did any of you Sussex trash make it beyond middle school? Too busy shoplifting from CVS, I guess.

And who could blame him R278?

Unhinged sycophantic troll behaviour at r279

R279, so…. The people who are commenting about kids on this thread aren’t “Sussex Stans,” as you call them. Come on, they’re way too trollish for even that. I would bet a million dollars (and it’s only a couple of them) that they’re DL’ers who are sick of the zillion BRF threads and are just trying to get a rise out of you. And you fell for the bait.

Thanks R282 - I hadn’t thought of it that way.

After all, what kind of mouth-breathing, undereducated trash would resort to attacking three children when all else has failed?

Oh, hang on…

R283, as much as you’d like to think it’s “Sussex Stans,” it isn’t. Why do you think these threads are getting greyed out? Doesn’t matter whose point of view they’re presenting. Fact.

Royalist fraus are us.

What is so ridiculous are these royalist fraus who apply their working class family values to this filthy rich, corrupt, decadent family. Since 1917 the Windsors have tried to brand themselves as "just your average middle class family". Just like your neighbors with slightly better hats. They have proven time after time that they are anything but. The English frau is really thicker than the Murican trumptard.

^ You're obviously America.

^ You're obviously American or you would have used the correct English word: Fatuous

I'm still only about halfway through this thread but wanted to drop this reference in because so many people were citing the effect of sugar on children's behavior. It's a myth that children get wild when they eat a lot of sugar. It's something everyone "knows," but it's not true.

Americans are entitled to have opinions r287. The trolls on these threads pull out the American insults when they can’t reply with logic or info. And I’m not r286.

[quote]Kate has given birth to a King. Her job is complete.

[quote]She gave birth to an heir.

Thank you for clearing that up, R31.

R292, really? What a bunch of horseshit. You don’t know who is posting here. It’s the height of stupidity to generalize just as you did. You assume because someone is ignorant, they’re American. Ok I’ll generalize. The anti Markle posts (and I’m no fan) are the only posts where this happens on DL. And you all wonder why you’re called Klan Grannies. I know you don’t like it but there it is.

R293 I already have R291 on block, just FYI.

Thanks r294, I think these trolls clear their cookies or log into different accounts, but there could be more than one troll around (hah it wouldn’t be unusual) I blocked someone else who posted very similar crap about Americans, and who loved to insult DL’ers who didn’t agree with them, similar to this troll. But now this one is also blocked and FF’d into oblivion.

Daily Deranger Fumigant take a deep whiff Klan Grannies.

I will repeat Harry looks so happy, boyish, content a look of fulfillment and happiness in contrast to rage, temple popping thumb head William.

In the Windsor tradition of happy couples.

In the Windsor tradition of happy trouples.

r286 I don't know a single British person who thinks of or believes the royal family is basically just an average middle class family where are you getting this overgeneralised baseless nonsense from?

R300 The William/Rose infidelity rumors have been debunked for ages. Anyone who is still trying to get milk outta that teat is pathetically bored and needs hobbies.

I think William's brilliant "scarfing" maneuver may have been a direct move to NOT engage with Mrs. Harry.

Weren't there pictures already out of Mrs Harry giving William the eye?

Consider how the stans would have reacted if, instead of scarfing, William had smiled and engaged with Mrs. Harry, who was, as I recall looking particularly at William at that moment. (It's been a while since I watched that video.)

The scarfing response was a clear signal to anyone and everyone that, despite Mrs Harry's eyeing him, William was not interested.

Have no doubt you don't know a single person SurvivingAnal.

The Sussexes don't give a shite and it drives you Klan Grannies batshit crazy. 😂

I don't know one single person who plays this Basket Ball Is this some woke American version of Cricket?

R306, stop embarassed yourself

John Fitzpatrick outed her as a heaux r133. She was sleeping with multiple men for money and favors at the same time. Mirroring her mother at the same age.

[quote]The William/Rose infidelity rumors have been debunked for ages.

No they haven't. And if anyone dares to mention Rose on an English website, they'll remove as soon as possible. He got an injunction. Although you can mention her on Scottish, Australian, Irish & American websites, where injunctions do not matter.

The affair is why the Queen made a comment that was released to the public about William taking an outrageous amount of helicopter flights to Norfolk. To see Rose.

And despite nothing being good enough for Kate, all of a sudden moved her family out of their 10 bedroom home one night into and old, tiny 4 bedroom home in Windsor that had been empty for years. Mrs 25 room Apartment is lived in some old, broken down house? 1 Reason for that. To get her husband away from his mistress.

That's why there is a push to get Andrew out of his 30 room house. So Kate and William can move into it. But only after a few million of taxpayer's money has been spent refurbishing it. But there will be an uproar refurbing ANOTHER home for K&W. That's why there was some article saying Andrew's beautiful home was run down. It's not rundown. It was beautifully refurbished a decade ago when he moved in there. He has a fleet of staff taking care of it over the years. It's fine.

William's people put the word out to the tabloids that it's run down so if they do move in there, they can float that lie that it's run down and use that article as proof. The tabloids will write articles justify the spending of millions of taxpayer dollars fixing it up to Kate's standards.

Did Megz get a facelift?

Absolutely nothing r309 said is true. This was debunked long ago and traced right back to Meghan. Her jealousy is off the charts. John Fitzpatrick told us about the multiple men (including himself) that she was sleeping with while living with Harry and looking for a rich British husband. No rich American was interested. Both Bower and Low give a LOT of dirt on her, all verified by multiple people.

The NY Post is such a rag paper. It looks like MM got some work done, just like Kate did not that long ago. Just like every woman over 30 (and even under 30) does today. Btw, if you want to start a new lucrative career, become an injectionist. Business is booming, it’s not just older women, it’s every woman, they all want fuller lips and sculpted check bones.

If Harry's first wife was the source of the Rose lie, it explains William and Kate's antipathy. There's nothing written or reported to suggest Kate Middleton is a character who's spiteful or holds a grudge. The stories just don't exist. If anything, there's a body of writing and reporting that suggests she's a conciliator. William's temper, as an example, written and reported. Nothing on Kate. So something really significant drives what seems to be a resolute dislike of Harry's first wife. In any event, Rose's husband has a new position within the monarchy that makes them a visible presence. No one's going to rub Kate's face in it if it were true.

What is it? Two weeks to the coronation?

And an appearance in public of Mr. and Mrs. Harry Mountbatten-Windsor of Montecito, CA, USA...

They must keep in the limelight. We mustn't forget how happy they are...how carefree...how in love..And just a reminder...

An article in "The Telegraph" about her...I mean their...grievances! With plausible deniability, if need be...We've moved on...

Bullshit!

All PR stunts..

I'd really like to know how he remains in this country when there are so many deserving, unprivileged men and women who wish to enter and work hard to achieve useful and meaningful lives, but they cannot come in.

What we ordered what we got.

Harry had the balls to take Murdoch to court to protect his family but Prince Willy took Murdoch's cash and ran. The Windsors are money grubbing parasitical grifters . The only thing worse then this corrupt crime family are the thick frau apologist who worship them.

R310 Why would Meghan want to be an prematurely aged mumbling anorexic vapid bitch who's husband cheats on her?

Meghan is a boon for Kate. With Meghan being the horrible person that she is, so twisted and ugly on the inside, Kate will always be seen better by comparison. Likewise, Harry, being the Bad Seed, improves William’s stock tremendously.

R316, he will eventually settle like his brother and the others.

Read about Siena Miller's lawsuit. She settled, because she said she did not have a limitless bank account to pay lawyers.

The same is true of Mr. and Mrs Harry Mountbatten-Windsor of Montecito, CA, USA. No matter how much his ghostwritten whine-fest earns...the money will go.

No matter how wealthy the British Royal Family is and the tremendous privileges it enjoys, and the deference they expect, their lifestyle is much more akin to that enjoyed by those we would call "Old Money." Meghan Markle expected a celebrity style of living akin to the nouveau riche.

She got casement windows and small, musty, chintz decorated reception rooms at Frogmore. No wonder she decamped for California with in luxe, neutral sofas and windswept views of the Pacific

I don't think it's accurate to say they expect deference. There are protocols around their roles, as there are for any head of government or head of state.

^ Call us when you untwist your moral pretzel Bonny

Photo shopped photos, bribes, payoffs,pedos, mistresses and illegitimate brats. Your Charlie's con nation is going to make an episode of the Kardashaians look like The Waltons😂

Lock Them Up!

LOL the kiss cam feature at the Lakers game just reeks of a PR stunt. They're so obvious and uncreative. But, you know, they just want their privacy. The hilarious thing is that Megsie refused to kiss Dimbo.

The fuck is she wearing? I also loved the moment when the kiss cam closes up and them and she pushes Harry away slightly when he tries to kiss her!

Harry hasn't done anything, r316, he's simply piggybacked on a case other people brought against News International, and he's achieved nothing so far except to expose what a hypocrite he is. Revealing his brother's private affairs is the height of hypocrisy. At least it shows that the whole royal family suffer from media shit, not just Harry, although he tries to present himself as the special one. His performance for the paps at the Lakers game last night is yet another act of hypocrisy.

R317 Yikes, Kate looks like she’s cosplaying as Wallis Simpson.

The Windsors are really a collection of dragged up gargoyles. Their desiccated exteriors reflecting their toxic interiors. Meanwhile in Happily Ever After..

R327 Wallis was a better pegger.

[quote] The Windsors are really a collection of dragged up gargoyles. Their desiccated exteriors reflecting their toxic interiors. Meanwhile in Happily Ever After..

No one tell the halfwit r328 that Harry and his kids are also Windsors. Let’s see how much of an ass she makes of herself.

Klan Grannies get more deranged the warmer it gets.

But harry is the long time well known cheat r317. Try again dear. Meghan is a jealous harpy. Always has been. She's a fug creature with a strange barrel shaped figure. She can't pose or act to save her life and it shows. All she knows is scamming people. Like dodgy Doria. Meghan must seethe with embarrassment over her fug, criminal mother compared to the gorgeous, rich, wildly successful happily married for decades, Carole Middleton.

Always amazed at what a venal rapacious money grubbing lot the Windsors are. Apparently even though Pa is billionaire they always want more. Like the Trumps but in silly hats.

William took hush money from old Rupert while his media shills were abusing Harry for trying to get justice for all the people that will never be able to afford to sue Murdoch. They claimed Harry wanted a payday, when it was William that settled for a massive wad of secret cash. BTW where did Billy's filthy lucre go ? What charities? My sides. English royalists are the thickest dolts.

Every young bloke needs a Sugar Daddy.

R334 = stupid American.

R336 is that all you can come back with? Wow what an effort.

^r338 is the “Americans are dumb” troll. Pretty much a one trick pony.

r304 Then youd benefit from developing a penchant for doubt pretty quickly. You are being very daft. British people do not think the royal family are basically just like a middle class family and you havent the evidence to back it up one tiny bit. Caricature and sweeping claims are not strong arguments.

r331 Harry is the biggest Klan Granny of them all- after everything he has said and claimed STILL clinging onto the royal titles. Where has this notion come from that Harry isnt a BIG believer in royal priviledges??

R336 And they said there would never be another Oscar Wilde.

R341 MORE CAPS!

Lol, r336, so it's perfectly fine when r334 calls the English "the thickest dolts"? You could argue that he gave an explanation for his position, but his "explanation" is complete and utter bullshit that displays nothing other than his extreme ignorance, tied in with the fact that, as a typical American, he thinks he can spout off about other countries and societies despite not comprehending a single thing about them.

R334 knows absolutely fucking nothing about the British royal family and British system. First of all, he's moronic enough to believe anything Harry spouts, simply because he heard the word "racism" and that's enough to trigger any dumb American who wants to prove how superior he or she is (funnily, however, according to Harry himself, it was the British tabloids who made the false accusations of racism against his family, not him or Meghan, so, according to Harry, anyone who thinks the royal family is racist has been influenced by the British tabloids).

From that dumb erroneous starting point, he spouts forth complete crap about hush money, Murdochs, filthy lucre, when William - harassed by the tabloids, although his brother avoids acknowledging that - simply wanted to avoid a circus show like the ones his brother thrives on but still felt it necessary to hold the tabloids to account for hacking his phone. He thus took private action against Murdoch's company and forced it to come to a settlement. What he did with the money is up to him. Should he make a grand public statement about charities?

Despite Harry's insinuation, this has no bearing on anything his brother then chose to do or not do, especially as it seems to have happened after Harry left the UK. Harry, on the other hand, appears hypocritically happy to reveal his brother's private affairs to the world. With his juvenile efforts to needle his family and be seen as a martyr in his crusade against the tabloids, he is putting at risk the case others have brought against News International for phone hacking, which he has piggybacked on, when - even worse - he doesn't actually seem to be able to offer much evidence that his own phone was hacked, so he shouldn't really be part of this action against News International. He's simply exploiting other people's legal case to spout off about his favourite issues. On top of all this, he makes the ludicrous claim that the Queen approved of his action!

The nonsense about "English royalists" is further evidence that r334 understands nothing about British society and our constitution.

Correction to r334: "Despite Harry's insinuation, this has no bearing on anything he then chose to do or not do, especially as it seems to have happened after Harry left the UK."

I mean correction to r344...

For twits spouting off about hush money. If Harry truly cared about holding the tabloids to account, he would be supporting his brother and sister-in-law.

In the meantime, the real news, which Harry the "veteran" doesn't give a shit about.

R341, I think Harry’s beef is not with the institution per se, but with the people like members of his family and the “grey suits”. He believes it’s his birth right to continue to be a Prince I guess, and his kids as well.

Since they couldn't merch a wreath for the event, the Harkles declined

Non monarchists respected the Queen - though not the institution. This is a generation of grifters, adulterers and narcissists. If you described the unearned assets of BRF to someone and said it was a royal family of a foreign country people would condemn them as deeply corrupt. If this was the royal family of Ethiopia you lame apologists klan grannies would be screaming LOCK THEM UP. You hypocritical old gits fool no one. Give it up gran.

R344 As we Americans say: Bless your heart.

Why are you so emotionally invested in them, r351?

Which "unearned assets" are you referring to, by the way?

R344 Wake us when you're done doll.

"William is deeply private and wished to avoid a "circus".

What about the $100 million one on May 6 ?

What does an amount in dollars, a foreign currency, have to do with anything happening in the UK, r355?

R350 Speaking of "merching " events do tell Gran 😂

Confess I did break down and order the "Official Coronation Mug"

Since Brexit $100 Million = 1 Billion GBP

Prince Harry was spot on about the sick symbiotic relationship between the Windsors , ROTA and the tabs. Pathetic that the British monarchy has been reduced to whoring itself out to scummy Murdoch. One can't exist without the other. Harry blew the lid off the whole corrupt (profitable) relationship( of which his sleazy brother is a perfect example.) Are the Brits so spineless that they put up with this grifting or is their precious "royal family" just the Kardashians in silly hats?

The comments are hysterical!

What exactly has Harry "blown the lid off", r360? Could you give a single example? All Harry's latest revelations have done is acted as a reminder that William has been hounded by the press far more than Harry himself has, while William holds the press accountable in a far more effective way.

And the crowd goes wild... again

^ Americans.

William holds the press accountable in a far more effective way..

We scousers show are apperception to His Majesty.

^ I was there cheering HM on.

So what was the message being sent by Mrs Harry pushing Harry away from a lip lock during their "surprise????" Kiss Cam appearance?

Willy & Katie have finally found a job that matches their skill set.

^ When are they popping over to detail my truck?

Bitch stole my act.

When my department reached our quarterly goal and exceeded it by nearly £2 million our VP bought us all, you guessed it, pizza. He got a huge bonus. We got the pizza. It's the modern equivalent of throwing the slaves a crust of bread.

We need to strip Harry & Meghan of their titles immediately!😂

The Harkles are suing the Kiss Cam operator, the Los Angeles Lakers and the owners of the arena.

Soon Charlies only title will be:

Charles by the Grace of God Camilla's Tampex.

R373 Stupid American, what makes you think that the silly Welsh can revoke the title Prince of Wales. Wales has nothing to do with them. Only His Majesty King Charles can revoke Williams title and he has no intention of doing so as it would cost him quid.

Willy won't be crowned POW even the Windsors are afraid to try this rubbish again.

Charlie's crown had a gold painted ping pong ball on top. Pretty much sums him up.😂

Charles looks like the on the spectrum kid who's made Prom King because he cleaned out the locker rooms.

"Wales has nothing to do with them"

It's clueless royalass nitwits spouting this nonsense that in five years tops will find Wales, Scotland and Ireland dumping Charles and the BRF. Let's not even see how long it takes the "Commonwealth aka "Gimmeyourwealth" to bail on these fools.

Come on. I dislike those two as much as anyone (I guess I'm a Klan Granny?), but her response was perfectly reasonable and not awkward. It's stupid to kiss on demand for an audience, and she was laughing and pushing him away like, "oh, go on, cut it out!" She was trying to have some dignity, as would I. You don't need to parse everything to death to find evidence that she's awful. The real stuff she does is bad enough!

Dr Pegger post hair transplant.

^ The British monarchy is playing to it's greatest strength Cosplay.

Agree with R381.

More interesting is the VIP box filled with Archewell employees with titles like vice president of scripted content.

That looked like a gathering of outcasts r384. Eek!

True. If anyone knows about dignity it's a former Suitcase girl and Wimbledon cooch flasher.

How many here think they knew all along they would be on KissCam?

Please.

Of course they knew.

As for Mrs Harry's response, just another "I'm in control in this relationship and no one should doubt it" moment.

Like the cringe worthy grasping at the UN Event.

EWWWW.

Royalassts once again losing their shite when confronted with reality R388-R600

Lol r388, you sure love repeating yourself.

When a popular monarch, who was the only monarch during the lives of most of her subjects, dies and is replaced by a new monarch, it’s common sense that having a new monarch is going to cause an initial downturn in popularity. He will have to earn respect during the course of his reign. It’s likely he will do good enough to be a bridge to his son’s reign, and then William’s performance will determine the future of the monarchy.

Marriages seem to have a shelf life. Wouldn't be surprised.

R390 Charles reign is probably going to turn out like Edward VII's. When Queen Victoria was alive Edward was a controversial figure, a known adulterer who many believed would not make a good king. Then Victoria died and many predicted the monarchy would lose appeal and wither. By the time he died 9 years later, he was a beloved King.

Meghan is heinous

King Charles devoted subjects hang the festive bunting!

You bloody Americans are beyond the pale! If you can not support His Majesty then get out of Liverpool!

R395, thanks for the comical post. Really? His Majesty? He wanted to be a tampon so no. He’s not majestic.

Hopefully Charles will repeat the moving on in 9 years part.

The weird pictures are of Archie & Lili. That birthday picture is so orange when in reality her hair is more brown. They never show Archie's full face, are they trying to cover up his Strabismus? If it was up to Meghan she would have merched those kids already.

There isn't a downturn in popularity, r390, despite Harry's efforts.

Have you ever had a relationship, r396.

It wouldn’t be surprising if Archie has Strabismus, his cousin has it and it is hereditary, so someone in a previous generation could have passed it down.

A full English Breakfast.

r398 I geniunely do not think merching them is going to be as lucrative as Meghan expects.

r403 from the little I have seen of the children they look like Pa Markle and sister Samantha. Karma is a bitch!

Unlike Harry ..Our Majesty is renowned for his self awareness

Who is "Our Majesty", r405? That isn't a title.

I guess prime time is wreaking havoc with some prolific BRF posters. Interesting… very interesting.

He is Our Majesty after all!!