I predict Governor Gretchen Whitmer will be President some day

I'm very fond of her. She is calm and unflappable and smart. She spent years in the state legislature and was very effective.

Her husband messed up by trying to get his boat out during quarantine but besides that I don't hear much bad about her except on Facebook there were Deplorables calling her Stretchin' Gretchen saying she was a slut in high school (damn I wish I was instead of a wallflower) because they were mad about the mask restrictions.

She got some balls. Winter 2022, when the MAGA wannabe/KKK Trucker Convoy up in Canada blocked the Ambassador Lewiston and every bridge which connected US and Canada, and the pussy Canadian politicians were too weak to do anything, resulting in huge revenue loss for Canada and US due to trucks backed up at the borders unable to cross ..... Well Gretchen put her foot down and said if Canadian polticians can't control their people she will get US authorities to remove the idiots. Her words were " if they can't do anything we will take care of it " The same day thousands of police authorities marched out to remove the blockade.

I think Gretchen and Roy Cooper from North Carolina, would make a great ticket. I don’t care which one of them is at the top of the ticket. They’re both great.

I like Gretchen, but I would put her at the top of a ticket balanced by Mitch Landrieu of NOLA.

She looks like Jessica Lange.

1000%, R5.

That's been my wish for a while now.

She’s got the look!

But is she likeable enough?

r9 I don't know if you are being sarcastic but the sad part is a lot of men would never vote for a female president.

Women got it bad in the US for some reason.

Latin American countries, other countries around the world elect female Presidents but the US is held back by that crowd of hell no! That's a man's job! Lead our boys to war!

It'll happen eventually, just not this decade. I predict both sides will want to send a safe bet into the 2028 general, especially the Dems who will have an uphill struggle in a change election.

Hillary has way more experience, OP.

With experience comes baggage and we all know a female candidate has to be purer than driven snow if she wants to land in the White House. As opposed to Trump who's basically more baggage than human at this point, which only increases his appeal apparently.

Sucks, but it's true. The first one will be the hardest, all that follow will obviously have a lower bar set for them.

R13 Experience does not equate with success. We all work with a lifer who doesn’t seem to move anywhere careerwise.

Big Gretch is my governor. The Mitten loves her!

Hillary is the very opposite of a lifer, looking at her varied career.

I met her at a fundraiser in Michigan before the last election. Incredibly down-to-Earth, poised, with a great sense of humor. She is also stunningly beautiful in-person!

r16 I live in West Michigan and there are so many Deplorables who hate her posting on local news articles on Facebook. I just read that WOOD TV 8 sent out a memo that PRIDE coverage needs to show both sides (conservative W Michigan) and employees are ticked, reading tweets about it.

I love Biden but wish he’d step aside. I assume he’s not because the Dem leadership wants him to run because they’ve got polling saying he’s the safest bet. I doubt he’s running because he desperately wants to.

DL politicos: what are the chances he steps aside before primary season kicks off?

Would love to see Gretch W. And others breathe some new life into the election.

Biden has declared he's running for president again some time ago, it's a done deal.

[quote] I met her at a fundraiser in Michigan before the last election. Incredibly down-to-Earth, poised, with a great sense of humor. She is also stunningly beautiful in-person.

She seems to be the real deal.

Gretch will not the the first female POTUS

Best case scenario: Clarence Thomas dies/gets thrown off the Supreme Court, Biden puts up Kamala Harris as a replacement and Whitmer is Biden's running mate (and ultimate POTUS when Biden steps down two years into his second term).

R11 Some of it is that Americans have an intense and unusual level of hate towards older women. We're not the only culture with this trait or even the worst but it's pretty extreme. Its bad both in the far alt right circles and far left. The wokies truly despise older white women just as much as the far right MRAs.

America is unique, and troubled, about women leaders.

Consider: the largest denomination in the country (Southern Baptist) kicked out some churches that had women pastors. "God" says women can't be in leadership roles. One of the churches had a woman who had already been pastor for 30 YEARS, but not the Southern Baptists were cracking down. Southern Baptists are getting MORE opposed to women leadership.

American Fucking Taliban. A large percentage of the country would want women to stay home and wear burkas if they leave the house.

R25 Nah. You just want to get hard by using "woke" as a perjorative.

Gen Z do oppose to "old white guys" who run the "patriarchy", but they love older white women.

Pay attention. Get outside your "anti-wokester" bubble.

R27 Get real. The common theme among Twitter wokies of the last few years is that every middle American, suburban white woman over 40 is a wicked monster personally responsible for America's ills. Compared to the far right they're correct about things like workers rights and healthcare so they have that going for them. But the animosity and seething hatred is pretty obvious.

News flash: "Karen" and Elizabeth Warren are not the same person.

[quote] Gretch will not the the first female POTUS

It will be me.

It's not the men, we know they're assholes. It's the women. Women represent more than 50% of the population, but a lot of women will not vote for another woman. It's sad, really. Trump got a higher % of the women's vote both times...than he deserved. Something like 33%. Maybe higher.

[quote] She is going places

Yes, like hell.

Hillary had 20 years of bad press. The GOP knew she was ambitious and just targeted her over and over. Fox News basically was the anti Hillary channel for 15 of those years. Whitmer remains untouched. She will start to get the treatment if right thinks she is Presidential but they are too busy getting moms into School boards to make sure kids don't learn about black history or see anything gay.

Agreed.

She's one of my favorites. And she frightens the MAGAts so much they plotted for months to kidnap, assault, and kill her. Even those dimwits can recognize her as The Real Deal.

I believe she was on the short list for Biden before they went with Kamala.

I used to be active with the Michigan Dems years ago, and still talk to some of the old farts. Whitmer is a star. But from what I heart she turned down offers from the Biden people. No to VP and no to a cabinet position. She was smart to do it. We can look forward to great things from her, but I don't think she is ready to leave. Close, but not yet.

Those hillbilly soldiers got acquitted. 🙄

I don't think men would vote for her based on her voice alone. That accent makes their dick fall off and I say this as someone from Wisconsin.

R39, Why does that accent incite dick detachment?

Whitmer is not going to be on the ballot in 2024. Unless he's in prison, it will be Dump. The best and strongest Democrat to beat Dump is President Biden.

Yes, they are both old. Yes it would be nice to nominate younger candidates and we're not going to do that. Get over it. This is who we have for the Democratic presidential ticket and this is who we have for the Cuntpublican presidential ticket. Stop endlessly whining about it, deal with reality and move on.

R38 Most likely the result of a stacked jury with preconceived biases. They should all have gotten at least some prison time. If an attempted kidnapping doesn't result in some punishment, then there will not be any deterrent for any future attempts.

Gretchen is such a hideous name. Right up there with Hilda.

That's not nice.

If I were an American woman I would start an anti-birthing movement to stop women from being used as breeding stock by Repug heteros to create soulless little mini-me tyrants and/or meth head zombies/wastrels.

R39 I live in New Mexico and trust me the accents many New Mexicans have are a lot worse than Whitmer's Fargo esque accent. I would rather hear Whitmer speak than listen to these beyond shitty accents here in New Mexico. At least Whitmer has good diction. Most New Mexicans have shitty diction.

Whitmer is pretty for a female politician. Unfortunately, her sister who is running for a Congressional seat in New York is very unattractive.

[quote]That accent makes their dick fall off and I say this as someone from Wisconsin.

What accent?

R47, imo Whitmer's sister is far prettier than her

Whitmer has caneface

Whitmer's older daughter is a tubby lesbian.