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Eddie Izzard: 'I consider being trans a superhero thing - but if I'd lived in Nazi Germany I'd have been murdered for it'

She tells Sky News: "I consider being trans a superhero thing - I wanted to put it in a very positive light with superheroes because some people are so negative about LGBT stuff.

"I've been out and open about it since 1985, it's a long time… And if we go back to the 1930s, if I've been in Nazi Germany, I would have been murdered for saying that I was trans.

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by Anonymousreply 259April 7, 2023 8:30 AM

Delusional faggot

by Anonymousreply 1March 25, 2023 11:18 PM


by Anonymousreply 2March 25, 2023 11:20 PM

Oh good, this again.

by Anonymousreply 3March 25, 2023 11:20 PM

But you're not "trans," dear. You're a straight male crossdresser.

by Anonymousreply 4March 25, 2023 11:20 PM

He's insufferable now. Not that I was a fan of his before.

by Anonymousreply 5March 25, 2023 11:21 PM

“British comedian Eddie Izzard, who recently asked to be identified with “she” and “her” pronouns, is coming out in defense of author J.K. Rowling’s stance on transgender issues.

“I don’t think J.K. Rowling is transphobic. I think we need to look at the things she has written about in her blog,” Izzard, 58, told the Daily Telegraph in a new interview.

“Women have been through such hell over history,” the star added in reference to the controversy surrounding the Harry Potter author’s comments. “Trans people have been invisible, too. I hate the idea we are fighting between ourselves, but it's not going to be sorted with the wave of a wand. I don't have all the answers. If people disagree with me, fine — but why are we going through hell on this?”

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by Anonymousreply 6March 25, 2023 11:21 PM

Ironically, Nazis were really big into cross-dressing straight men. It was gay men who Nazis hated. Nazis also were at the forefront of trans surgery.

by Anonymousreply 7March 25, 2023 11:21 PM

Lots of people got murdered in Nazi Germany.

by Anonymousreply 8March 25, 2023 11:21 PM

British fraus and the endless tranny threads.

by Anonymousreply 9March 25, 2023 11:22 PM

“And so I wrote a statement, ‘I prefer she/her, I don’t mind he/him. No one can make a mistake,” she added.“

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by Anonymousreply 10March 25, 2023 11:24 PM

There are actually people who think white, straight, blonde men were a target for the Nazis. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 11March 25, 2023 11:24 PM

So profound. I admire her.

by Anonymousreply 12March 25, 2023 11:25 PM

R9 Stop calling women fraus! You nasty little poofs

by Anonymousreply 13March 25, 2023 11:28 PM

I think she’s fine. Trying to de-escalate conflict, understand other people, and ask for understanding.

by Anonymousreply 14March 25, 2023 11:28 PM

unless you're a teenage girl r14.

by Anonymousreply 15March 25, 2023 11:30 PM

Were there trans people killed in the Holocaust. This is what they’re shouting now. Of course, what trans actually is defined as changes to fit the narrative. Sounds like Stonewall revisionism. Someone actually asked a TRA when these people transitioned and they responded: “Oh, you’re only trans if you medically transition?” They also said that all the names of these trans people murdered were lost. lol

by Anonymousreply 16March 25, 2023 11:32 PM

Were there trans people killed in the Holocaust? This is what they’re shouting now. Of course, what trans actually is defined as changes to fit the narrative. Sounds like Stonewall revisionism. Someone actually asked a TRA when these people transitioned and they responded: “Oh, you’re only trans if you medically transition?” They also said that all the names of these trans people murdered were lost. lol

by Anonymousreply 17March 25, 2023 11:32 PM

Were there trans people killed in the Holocaust? This is what they’re shouting now. Of course, what trans actually is defined as changes to fit the narrative. Sounds like Stonewall revisionism. Someone actually asked a TRA when it was when these people transitioned and they responded: “Oh, you’re only trans if you medically transition?” They also said that all the names of these trans people murdered were lost. lol

by Anonymousreply 18March 25, 2023 11:33 PM

He has been out since 1985?

I thought he was a cis-straight dude who dressed in men’s clothes up until a few years ago.

by Anonymousreply 19March 25, 2023 11:33 PM

Eddie needs to be in jail. He already laughs about how he shows his dick in women’s toilets.

by Anonymousreply 20March 25, 2023 11:33 PM

Eddie wear fake tits. It’s a fetish.

by Anonymousreply 21March 25, 2023 11:34 PM

The Nazi's targeted, imprisoned and murdered gay men. Not straight gross dressers, not transvestites.

by Anonymousreply 22March 25, 2023 11:35 PM

^ cross dressers, lol

by Anonymousreply 23March 25, 2023 11:35 PM

Wig-weara, PLEASE.

by Anonymousreply 24March 25, 2023 11:38 PM

112 W&Ws OP? Are we this passionate about Eddie Izzard's hypothetical life in Weimar Germany?

by Anonymousreply 25March 25, 2023 11:54 PM

I love how transphobes show themselves to be twice as crazy and three times as annoying as the trans they hate so much.

by Anonymousreply 26March 26, 2023 12:01 AM

Troons are erasing womanhood, we won’t accept our erasure!

by Anonymousreply 27March 26, 2023 12:02 AM

Clearly, that’s your job! Alienate as many people as you can with your righteous crusade of hate. You’ve made such wonderful progress on DL.

by Anonymousreply 28March 26, 2023 12:03 AM

He’s so full of shit now. He used to be so cool and NO-ONE had any issues with him just being himself. He was just a man who sometimes wore women’s clothes, and why not! At some point he got taken in by the gender ideology cult and well, he’s just a sad twat now.

by Anonymousreply 29March 26, 2023 12:07 AM

No shortage of those.

by Anonymousreply 30March 26, 2023 12:09 AM

Nazis would have been too afraid to be around him.

by Anonymousreply 31March 26, 2023 12:11 AM

[quote] a superhero thing

Whatever that means.

by Anonymousreply 32March 26, 2023 12:12 AM

He is an offensive moron.

As if he'd have pretended to be Suzy if he was living in Germany in the 1930s.

He'd have been the straight, white man that he is (although he'd probably have attended the crossdressing events organised by the SS).

by Anonymousreply 33March 26, 2023 12:14 AM

Rescue chick, keep your kiwi farms shit in that pig shit lagoon. Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 34March 26, 2023 12:18 AM

The Nazis had a list of persons they wanted exterminated.

If your group was on the list they'd eventually get around to you.

by Anonymousreply 35March 26, 2023 12:19 AM

As long as he's speaking up for JKR, that's a good thing. Tell your hysterical sister-men to stand down. Not that they will listen.

by Anonymousreply 36March 26, 2023 12:22 AM

Trans hating fascists don't belong on DL.

by Anonymousreply 37March 26, 2023 12:28 AM

There was no Nazi symbol for trans, ahistoric freaks.

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by Anonymousreply 38March 26, 2023 12:29 AM

R37 But woman hating fascists do I suppose?

by Anonymousreply 39March 26, 2023 12:38 AM

R38 They just have to insert themselves into everything especially where there’s oppression Olympics points to be scored.

by Anonymousreply 40March 26, 2023 12:40 AM

And your “help I’m being oppressed by the oppressed” routine isn’t the same shit as you are accusing others of?

by Anonymousreply 41March 26, 2023 12:44 AM

Is this a Jimmy-Savile-in-a-dress situation? Genuinely asking.

by Anonymousreply 42March 26, 2023 12:52 AM

Trannies are now screaming genocide. There’s no low they won’t stoop to.

by Anonymousreply 43March 26, 2023 12:59 AM

Staying off the inflammatory subject matter for a moment...

Most females who are raised sensibly and responsibly are taught and advised at a young age to trust instinct/inner alarms and avoid men who give off creepy vibes, just to steer well clear even with no hard evidence that they're creepy. Eddie is one such man. It's not my purview to speculate further or inquire why; he's just creepy according to my safety radar, and that's good enough for me to ignore what he says, not engage with or about him, and advise others to do the same.

by Anonymousreply 44March 26, 2023 1:01 AM

R41 Are you retarded?

by Anonymousreply 45March 26, 2023 1:01 AM

It’s not like people were openly talking about it at CPAC.

by Anonymousreply 46March 26, 2023 1:01 AM

Eddie is a comedy genius and I love him. I loved him years ago and I love him now. I don't care what he's wearing, I don't care what pronouns he prefers, he can identify any way he feels most comfortable. It's all fine with me.

The TERF-Nazis who attack him just show how dull and slow-witted they can be.

Can you imagine choosing the fucking NAZIS over the brilliant Eddie Izzard? It just proves how provincial and stupid the TERF-Nazis are and there's no getting around that.

AstroTERFing for Nazis is a very poor choice as your life's work, kids.

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by Anonymousreply 47March 26, 2023 1:10 AM

He was NEVER funny.

by Anonymousreply 48March 26, 2023 1:12 AM

R47, he did one good standup show nearly a quarter of a century ago. He’s not a genius.

by Anonymousreply 49March 26, 2023 1:15 AM

That’s probably why he has had such career longevity. Comedians who are “NEVER funny” stick around for decades.

by Anonymousreply 50March 26, 2023 1:16 AM

[quote] It's not my purview to speculate further or inquire why

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 51March 26, 2023 1:16 AM

He was ALWAYS funny.

You know how I know? Monty Python said he was funny and called him the funniest comedian working today.

by Anonymousreply 52March 26, 2023 1:16 AM

R52 = Miss Izzard

by Anonymousreply 53March 26, 2023 1:17 AM

One good show?

So you're a TERF-Nazi AND a big fat liar. Okay.

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by Anonymousreply 54March 26, 2023 1:19 AM

And this one...

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by Anonymousreply 55March 26, 2023 1:20 AM

Genius at Madison Square Garden!

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by Anonymousreply 56March 26, 2023 1:21 AM


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by Anonymousreply 57March 26, 2023 1:22 AM

Well chappers, we have a vehement Izzard Troll. I'm officially not the weirdest Brit poster here anymore.

by Anonymousreply 58March 26, 2023 1:27 AM

Is that you, Milky Loads?

by Anonymousreply 59March 26, 2023 1:29 AM

DLers FF this piece of shit troll R1.

by Anonymousreply 60March 26, 2023 1:30 AM

I'm no fan of Miss Suzy Izzard or of transgenderism in general, but why is OP posting an article from two years ago out of nowhere?

by Anonymousreply 61March 26, 2023 1:32 AM

Will terminally fugly cross dresser Never STFU? Does he even pause for a breath.

by Anonymousreply 62March 26, 2023 1:35 AM

I'm only half-British.

by Anonymousreply 63March 26, 2023 1:37 AM

No one is half British.

by Anonymousreply 64March 26, 2023 1:39 AM

This is just a joke from one of the old stand-ups, seriously. It's not even new. There used to be memes of the quote on places like LiveJournal, so it was a long time ago.

by Anonymousreply 65March 26, 2023 1:40 AM

R64, you are incorrect.

by Anonymousreply 66March 26, 2023 1:40 AM

R60 is right, but can you guys start remembering from one thread to the next that we have a troll who specifically uses homophobic or racist slurs in these threads, as bait to get people to get into fights with them? They're always toward the top of the threads. They do it on Harry/Meghan threads too, probably others.

She got FFed and grayed out a few weeks ago but she has sockpuppets so she always comes back. FF and ignore is probably your better option than just FF.

by Anonymousreply 67March 26, 2023 1:42 AM

[quote]Rescue chick, keep your kiwi farms shit in that pig shit lagoon.

She won't. The time to get rid of her was about three years ago but DL is too overwhelmed with her trolls friends and/or stupid people who bought her shtick. We'll have her around forever now, just like D*vida, just like Attmay, just like the rest of them.

by Anonymousreply 68March 26, 2023 1:44 AM

R11, The irony of signing your name as Graham Linehan, the creep who felt comfortable harassing lesbians on a dating app while pretending to be a woman.

by Anonymousreply 69March 26, 2023 1:51 AM

^This is the same idiot who had a meltdown over a Sam Smith music video then threatened to take away gay rights.

Gender critical/“TERF” homophobes are a dime a dozen.

by Anonymousreply 70March 26, 2023 1:53 AM

I find it easy enough to ignore Eddie/Suzy. Let her live her truth far away from me.

by Anonymousreply 71March 26, 2023 2:06 AM


by Anonymousreply 72March 26, 2023 2:08 AM

Rescue chick is not wrong about cross dressing Nazis- it was quite a thing, and not at all a scandal, really. That's something men understood, but sex with other men was not. Different times.

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by Anonymousreply 73March 26, 2023 2:12 AM

*I don't understand the need to make shit up about history.

by Anonymousreply 74March 26, 2023 2:13 AM

A hundred and one pounds of fun, r73?

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by Anonymousreply 75March 26, 2023 2:15 AM

Oh my. He sounds well.

by Anonymousreply 76March 26, 2023 2:40 AM

Thanks, R29. I never knew much about him. I have no problem with men who wear women's clothing either and haven't for the last 5 decades. I guess that's too simple, though.

by Anonymousreply 77March 26, 2023 2:54 AM

[quote] you are incorrect.

No, I’m not. British is a nationality. English is an ethnicity. You’re neither. Kindly fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 78March 26, 2023 3:20 AM

So the trannies were Nazis. They’re not gonna like hearing that. Trans is an umbrella that includes crossdressers.

by Anonymousreply 79March 26, 2023 3:21 AM

Well, when it’s convenient.

by Anonymousreply 80March 26, 2023 3:21 AM

I am, indeed, half British. I grew up splitting my time between the US and Great Britain. One parent was American, the other was a Brit.

So there you go, incorrect TERF Nazi weirdo, kindly fuck off yourself.

by Anonymousreply 81March 26, 2023 3:25 AM

My rot pocket stinks!

by Anonymousreply 82March 26, 2023 3:44 AM

What the fuck is this gay fascination with being "trans"? It is such a nutty delusion to even think for a minute one's gender is something one can trade in for the other!

I was watching MTV and saw a commercial for Descovy the AIDS drug and the announcer said it hadn't been approved or tested for those "assigned female at birth". I gagged at that bit of lunacy!

by Anonymousreply 83March 26, 2023 3:44 AM

R83 It’s certainly not a gay fascination, it’s a cancer that has taken over every gay space and renamed them all “queer”. It’s LARPing straight women who cut their tots off and think that makes them gay men.

by Anonymousreply 84March 26, 2023 3:47 AM

^or even their tits!

by Anonymousreply 85March 26, 2023 3:48 AM

Since you aren’t gay and don’t understand our fascinations, you should leave. Because you are as unwelcome in our gay space as you say trans are in your spaces. Lead by example and go to your safe space.

by Anonymousreply 86March 26, 2023 3:50 AM

I suppose you vicious and deeply stupid cunts would prefer that Izzard were murdered for being Trans.

Yeah, you guys are such caring humanitarians. You hardly even seem like Nazis at first.

by Anonymousreply 87March 26, 2023 3:51 AM

Pretty sure no-one wants anyone murdered for any reason but keep reaching.

by Anonymousreply 88March 26, 2023 3:56 AM

Try to follow along, R88. It's not required but it's often a good idea.

by Anonymousreply 89March 26, 2023 4:03 AM

R87, Izzard is hardly under any threat at all.

It’s not like he got mobbed in NZ & had a transwoman gleefully pour tomato juice on him.

Eddie will never, ever have eggs thrown at him.

He, like Dylan Mulvaney, is doing better than ever.

by Anonymousreply 90March 26, 2023 4:08 AM

R89 Where has anyone called for the death of trans people? So fucking dramatic! Also, Izzard would have to be trans to be murdered for being trans. He’s not trans, he has autogynephilia.

by Anonymousreply 91March 26, 2023 4:09 AM

CPAC was literally calling for the elimination of trans people. States are literally outlawing people from not presenting as their birth certificates. You are incredibly ignorant or plain deceitful, likely both to pretend trans people are not under attack, in danger and being denied rights.

For the sole reason that craven Republicans who can’t be elected honestly on their policies need to foment fear and division to get their Putin-loving, treasonous asses elected.

by Anonymousreply 92March 26, 2023 4:14 AM

The more the Nazi obsessive screeches, the more it becomes clear how much the Nazi ideology has in common with today's trans ideology.

No other modern 'rights movement' has led to needless mutilating and castrating of kids and teens.

by Anonymousreply 93March 26, 2023 4:15 AM

He is such a nutter…and completely humorless.

by Anonymousreply 94March 26, 2023 4:16 AM

R92 IN THIS THREAD, numb nuts!

by Anonymousreply 95March 26, 2023 4:18 AM

R92 denied what rights?

by Anonymousreply 96March 26, 2023 4:18 AM

The right to make decisions about their own and their family’s medical care with out some illiterate bigot screeching “not in my state,” None of your fucking business, None of the governments fucking business. And none of DataLounge’s fucking business.

But everyday the site gets polluted with your screeches feigning your mission from god, derailing threads, and spewing hate at people who have barely a cursory interest or investment in the issue. Now fuck off because we hate everything you stand for and don’t want your deceit, hate or divisiveness here.

by Anonymousreply 97March 26, 2023 4:28 AM

The TERFs are working with the NAZIS, kids. They have banded together against Trans and we all know where this is headed.

The TERFs may pretend not to know, but they're playing silly reindeer games. WE know exactly where this is going. We know they want Trans dead. We know they want Lesbians dead. We know they want Bisexuals dead. And they sure as FUCK want gay men dead. They're Nazis, they have an extensive track record in this regard.

We don't want you here, you don't belong here. Get the fuck out with your Nazi pals and your TransHate bullshit AstroTERFing.

by Anonymousreply 98March 26, 2023 4:29 AM

R98 = 21c witch hunter.

by Anonymousreply 99March 26, 2023 4:31 AM

Well when we have a bunch of fucking TERFwitches and NAZIwitches infesting our site, what else do you expect us to do, R99.

Hunt the fucking witches.

by Anonymousreply 100March 26, 2023 4:34 AM

Wasn’t part of his comedy act the fact that he admitted to being a crossdresser/autogynophile but didn’t consider himself trans or a woman because they were just clothes and he was playing dress up. In a sense he was rejecting gender stereotypes and ideology and just classified himself as a man who sometimes like to wear women’s clothing .

by Anonymousreply 101March 26, 2023 4:34 AM

Time to dilate r100 and while you’re at it clean the shit out of your coloncunt.

by Anonymousreply 102March 26, 2023 4:35 AM

I enjoyed the hell out of him in his “Dressed to Kill” days and then was incredibly impressed with his running back to back marathons, 27 in 27 days, to raise money for charity

I wish I could feel that same way about him/her while he does this.

by Anonymousreply 103March 26, 2023 4:40 AM

R101, it's argued that autogynophilia escalates with age. That and trans propaganda explains a lot.

by Anonymousreply 104March 26, 2023 4:40 AM

He was talking of running as a Labour candidate in the next election, and Posie Parker (Kellie-Jay Keen, the woman running Let Women Speak) said if he did, she was going to run as Independent against him. Last I heard he wasn't going to run.

by Anonymousreply 105March 26, 2023 4:46 AM

R104 = Dumbvida who knows fuck-all about anything, least of all complex medical, emotional and psychological fields.

by Anonymousreply 106March 26, 2023 4:47 AM

Does anyone like him anymore? He has gone from edgy to transfrau.

by Anonymousreply 107March 26, 2023 4:48 AM

R106's medical and clinical credentials boil down to one word: mental.

by Anonymousreply 108March 26, 2023 4:53 AM

[quote] Delusional faggot

r1 This thing is not a 'faggot' when it fucks women with its own dick, aka heterosexual. Just like the majority of the male 'trans' these days.

by Anonymousreply 109March 26, 2023 4:56 AM

[quote] Pretty sure no-one wants anyone murdered for any reason but keep reaching.

r88 The only ones I frequently see throwing the "hope you die a painful death" are pro-trans loons. I see enough here on DL too.

by Anonymousreply 110March 26, 2023 5:00 AM

Just your average straight guy on a gay site defending the women folk from the trans menace. TROLL!

by Anonymousreply 111March 26, 2023 5:00 AM

R97 Have you dilated today? You know how angry your fauxvag gets if you don’t!

by Anonymousreply 112March 26, 2023 5:01 AM

[quote] Someone actually asked a TRA when these people transitioned and they responded: “Oh, you’re only trans if you medically transition?” They also said that all the names of these trans people murdered were lost. lol

[quote] There was no Nazi symbol for trans, ahistoric freaks.

r16 r38 It doesn't matter at all to the revisionist freaks. Everything was 'lost'. Supposedly countless 'murdered' (they include suicide here as well) secret 'trans' never left any records.

by Anonymousreply 113March 26, 2023 5:05 AM

TERFs = fascists

by Anonymousreply 114March 26, 2023 5:12 AM

R113 Schrödinger's Trans.

by Anonymousreply 115March 26, 2023 5:12 AM

Spoken like a true transcultist, R114.

by Anonymousreply 116March 26, 2023 5:15 AM

Speaking simple truth.

by Anonymousreply 117March 26, 2023 5:32 AM

[quote] I am, indeed, half British

You are half English, you lazy troon.

by Anonymousreply 118March 26, 2023 5:36 AM

Trannies will soon declare that no Jews died during the Holocaust or they were all Jewish trannies.

by Anonymousreply 119March 26, 2023 5:37 AM

Rick Wilson wrote a book called, "Everything Trump Touches Dies".

This is true.

A gay writer should write the companion to Rick's book:

Everything the Troons Touch Dies

It would sell a million copies.

by Anonymousreply 120March 26, 2023 5:38 AM

I always thought he was a straight man who was open about how he liked to dress in women's clothes. I guess there are no transvestites anymore. Any person with a dick who likes to wear women's panties is now automatically a transgender.

by Anonymousreply 121March 26, 2023 5:38 AM

Thank you, R34. She cannot be called out hard enough for bringing kiwi farms hate to DL over and over and over. The worst part is that you can tell Rescue Chick actually believes what she posts. She's not here with a cynical mission to spread division or troll, she *actually* believes the hateful, poisonous garbage she reads on that garbage site for garbage people, and probably thinks she's doing good in the world coming here to post about it.

It's a moral panic. Nothing Eddie Izzard was quoted as saying in the OP was anything other than reasonable and fair-minded. He condemns no one and explicitly expresses sympathy for what women have gone through historically. Only a troll or an idiot reads any of that and sees "hate."

No need to tell me to dilate, I have a vagina I was born with and I'm not posting this from my hiding place under the bed, where I tremble in fear of the transes (only 1 of whom I have ever knowingly met in all my 43 years of life) coming to oppress me.

by Anonymousreply 122March 26, 2023 5:56 AM

We know, R114 / R117, cults are all about 'simple truths'.

by Anonymousreply 123March 26, 2023 5:56 AM

Says the anti-trans cultist at R123.

by Anonymousreply 124March 26, 2023 6:00 AM

R124, lame.

by Anonymousreply 125March 26, 2023 6:04 AM

[quote]Since you aren’t gay and don’t understand our fascinations, you should leave.

I'm gayer than Christmas. It's just that I'm not "queer" or into transing gay children.

Why are you so proudly fascinated with sad people hacking off their organs? Is that a level of mental health you find laudable?

by Anonymousreply 126March 26, 2023 6:05 AM

Yes, you and all your anti-trans fascist friends are pretty lame, R125.

by Anonymousreply 127March 26, 2023 6:07 AM

My front hole stinks!

by Anonymousreply 128March 26, 2023 6:16 AM

I can't wait for Muriel to get rid of all you TERF Nazi cunts.

tick... tick... tick...

You never should have taken up with the Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 129March 26, 2023 6:41 AM

[quote] I enjoyed the hell out of him in his “Dressed to Kill” days and then was incredibly impressed with his running back to back marathons, 27 in 27 days, to raise money for charity

So this IS a Jimmy Savile type of situation, after all.

by Anonymousreply 130March 26, 2023 6:46 AM


by Anonymousreply 131March 26, 2023 6:48 AM

To simpleminded patriarchal, privileged gays, the trans represent "The Ultimate Victim" so they must champion them blindly without really thinking too much about what exactly is going on in their movement. Oddly, they are seen as the ONLY authentic beings in society...for living a 24/7 gender cosplay existence.

I don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 132March 26, 2023 6:51 AM

Maybe we do think about it an adequate amount, R132, and we have reached *different conclusions* about it than you have. Shocking, that people should have differing viewpoints, I know but there it is.

by Anonymousreply 133March 26, 2023 7:05 AM

There was lots of cross-dressing during WWII. Some of it stemmed from a German a carnival tradition that mocks women, which of course was “acceptable.” As someone noted earlier, even the Nazis participated in cross-dressing. But there were gay Nazis as well, most notably Hitler’s close friend Ernst Röhm, yet the Nazis persecuted transvestites, transsexuals, and gays for deviant behavior. They were all sent to the camps and worked to death or executed.

by Anonymousreply 134March 26, 2023 7:06 AM

[quote] He was talking of running as a Labour candidate in the next election, and Posie Parker (Kellie-Jay Keen, the woman running Let Women Speak) said if he did, she was going to run as Independent against him. Last I heard he wasn't going to run.

There was a vote by the members of the constituency he wanted to represent in December and they chose a local woman with Yemini heritage who is currently a councillor there. Abtisam Mohamed got more than double the votes of Izzard.

by Anonymousreply 135March 26, 2023 7:26 AM

Both of them are from Yemen and they ended up vying for the same constituency in England?

What are the odds of that?

by Anonymousreply 136March 26, 2023 7:30 AM

Is Chaya Raichik another alumnus of Kiwi Farms? I’ve often wondered if she posts here.

by Anonymousreply 137March 26, 2023 7:33 AM

How does this OP have 121 likes after 8 hours?

And I'm unsure whether it was posted to ridicule Izzard's delusion or in support of it.

by Anonymousreply 138March 26, 2023 8:35 AM

This thread also has people painting a picture of big bad Rescue-Chick farming kiwis in Vermont, R138, so everything is possible at this point.

by Anonymousreply 139March 26, 2023 8:48 AM

Oh, sorry - that should have read: "farming kiwis in Berlin"

by Anonymousreply 140March 26, 2023 8:55 AM

R98, no one is talking about wanting anyone dead. And right wing issues are not feminist and have nothing to do with feminism; nor does feminism ally itself with homophobia and gender discrimination. The right wing power is mostly concentrated in right wing men, not by “radical feminists” who by being radical are in favor of a society where gender doesn’t matter and everyone is free. And right wing women are not “radical feminists”.

by Anonymousreply 141March 26, 2023 9:05 AM

[quote] no one is talking about wanting anyone dead

You haven't read enough anti-trans threads.

by Anonymousreply 142March 26, 2023 9:31 AM

[quote]Rescue chick is not wrong about cross dressing Nazis

It's irrelevant, r73. These troll cunts bring this stuff up to deflect from the fact that one of their heroes, that Posie Whatever lady, asked for the far right "boys" to support her at marches, and sure enough, actual Nazis with flags and salutes and everything, DID. These trans-haters all marched together, and Rescue Chick, as grotesque as she is, is at least smart enough to know that it's a bad look.

She's bringing up random Nazi facts to deflect, and you're helping her. Why?

It's just like when the Buffalo massacre guy's manifesto had "drop the T" in it and the trolls got quiet for a few weeks, knowing how bad it looked. Or when the "Don't Say Gay" bill was first introduced. They left for a few days and then came back, organized, with talking points like "it's not actually about gays" or "it's only going to be Grade 3 and lower."

Again, why are you defending any of this?

by Anonymousreply 143March 26, 2023 9:34 AM

[quote]no one is talking about wanting anyone dead

This is what happens when they delete troll threads: the trolls get to pretend like they didn't get so worked up they were talking about extermination or genocide or what have you.

I guess we should start taking screenshots but god DAMN is this place not worth the fucking effort.

by Anonymousreply 144March 26, 2023 9:35 AM

Let me tell you something, R141. A society "where gender doesn’t matter" is a society in which women have no rights as a class. Picture this: if it doesn't matter, why, then, have gender-based protections for women enshrined in law? Do you think men and women are equal in violence, for example? Are men and women equal in strength, physically? They are not. They never will be.

Gender matters. Sit down and think about it. And if you believe "this place [is] not worth the fucking effort", find another one.

by Anonymousreply 145March 26, 2023 10:04 AM

r145, I'M the one who said this place isn't worth the fucking effort, and I'm not r141.

Just 'fess up: are you confused or are you purposely saying stuff like that to try to start a flamewar?

by Anonymousreply 146March 26, 2023 10:09 AM

Oh. Are R141 and R144 not the same person? I could swear they were one and the same.

Apologies for the confusion. But R144 - if you don't like it here, you should leave.

by Anonymousreply 147March 26, 2023 10:10 AM

R146, you beat me to it by a second or so. I don't deal in "flamewars".

by Anonymousreply 148March 26, 2023 10:11 AM

Right, a lesbian who is defending radfems, Kiwifarms, and Rescue Chick is demanding that a gay man leave a gay forum, and wants us to think they're NOT a troll.

by Anonymousreply 149March 26, 2023 10:12 AM

Girl, Rescue-Chick is a straight woman in Vermont who works in HR and talks recipes here on the weekends. She said the Nazis were crossdressers - they were. Did she ask a gay man to leave the forum? Can you point me to the specific post?

by Anonymousreply 150March 26, 2023 10:18 AM

She's a TERF.

by Anonymousreply 151March 26, 2023 10:23 AM

[quote]Rescue-Chick is a straight woman in Vermont who works in HR and talks recipes here on the weekends

[quote]Did she ask a gay man to leave the forum?

You just did. I was talking about you. You signed your post "lipstick lesbian" and told me, a gay man, to leave DL. Twice.

Don't worry, I get it now, you're either RC or one of her Kiwifarms friends. What I don't get (and honestly it doesn't really matter either way) is whether you're stupid or trolling. All this "tee hee I get so confused about who said what" nonsense is wearing thin.

by Anonymousreply 152March 26, 2023 10:28 AM

No one can infer you were talking about me based on your punctuation, R152. You should work on that.

I didn't know you were a man. In any case, if you're not happy here, you should find a place where you feel better. That's all.

by Anonymousreply 153March 26, 2023 10:32 AM

I watched a few interviews with him and he kept going on about 'being in girl mode'. Should've said 'old bag' mode. Why do these men always bang on about being a 'girl' no matter how old and ravaged they look?

by Anonymousreply 154March 26, 2023 10:36 AM

R149, yep - that's exactly what we have here. These TERFs are astonishing, truly astonishing. Fucking AstroTERFing the Datalounge with their allies and co-demonstrators, those old faves THE NAZIS!

The TERFs INVITED THE NAZIS. And when they showed up, the TERFs literally marched with the Nazis. WITH them.

You girls are so fucking screwed. Even JK Howling with her billion dollars, all those plastic surgeries and her Scottish castle can't save you. You will always be that TransHate group that marched with the NAZIS, so that's nice.

You actually invited the Nazis and they showed up and now you're trying to say the TERFs had nothing to do with it? Liar liar liar - you're a bunch of big fat fucking liars.

Jesus. You sick fucks. You invited the Nazis to your Trans Hate rally and marched with them. And now that everyone knows and hates you for it, you're pretending that you never invited them.

Butcha did, Blanche, ya DID.

by Anonymousreply 155March 26, 2023 10:37 AM

I knew he was referring to you, R153, it was obvious.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? How very Shawshank Redemption Warden of you, my dear.

by Anonymousreply 156March 26, 2023 10:39 AM

Izzard is a man with AGP

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by Anonymousreply 157March 26, 2023 10:42 AM

What do you call a table with 11 people talking to a Nazi?

A table of 12 Nazis.

What do you call a bunch of TERFs marching with a bunch of Nazis?

A bigger bunch of Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 158March 26, 2023 11:05 AM

Exactly so, R158, exactly so.

by Anonymousreply 159March 26, 2023 11:10 AM

Eddie Izzard is a man, r158. Transwomen are men.

by Anonymousreply 160March 26, 2023 11:14 AM

R149 thinks gay men like pussy.

by Anonymousreply 161March 26, 2023 11:16 AM

R105, he put himself forward for selection as the Labour candidate but - no surprise - wasn't selected.

by Anonymousreply 162March 26, 2023 11:17 AM

Eddie Izzard is whatever he wants to be, I don't give a fuck and I don't give a fuck what you want, R160.

by Anonymousreply 163March 26, 2023 11:35 AM

The phrase trans is a superhero thing is so cringe worthy.

by Anonymousreply 164March 26, 2023 11:47 AM

R144, I mean radical feminists are not talking about wanting people dead, not Nazis. And by “radical feminists” I don’t mean anyone who was at that right wing event. Radical feminists want gender to be of no consequence and no importance. And there are very few radical feminists anywhere or radicals of any type. The far left is not as well financed as the far right, and women who make barely enough to get by are not behind any major party’s political drive.

by Anonymousreply 165March 26, 2023 12:25 PM

The vast majority of funding on the far right comes from conservative MEN. So you could call them CONS or whatever. But why choose a term that not only is female specific (TERF has no male equivalent) but was also historically left-wing specific (radical feminism is actually left wing radical) to describe people who are in a dual gender and distinctly right wing event?

by Anonymousreply 166March 26, 2023 12:31 PM

Really, this stuff gets more bizarre by the year.

"I consider being Jewish a superhero thing - but if I'd lived in Nazi Germany . . ."

"I consider being homosexual a superhero thing - but if I'd lived in Nazi Germany . . ."

"I consider being a gypsy a superhero thing - but if I'd lived in Nazi Germany . . ."

"I consider being black a superhero thing - but if I'd lived in Nazi Germany . . ."

This has gotten to the point of farce. The actual number of children who evidence signs of serious body dysmorphia by the age of four or five years old is about one-tenth of one percent of the population.

The rest is a sociopolitical force trying to normalise what is, in fact, an aberrant emotional and psychological issue that is serving some other purpose.

And there is no such thing as non-binary. If you were born with an XY set of normal chromosomes, and you have a healthy set of functional cock and balls, you're a male. If you choose to fuck both men and women, you're still a biological male and an adult human male - there's no "non" about it. I don't care who you want to fuck or whether you like wearing dresses more than trousers, as long as nonconsenting other entities aren't involved.

You ARE binary: you're an adult human male.

by Anonymousreply 167March 26, 2023 12:33 PM

There is a poster here who, in typical fashion, is bullying the women on the thread. There are some simple points being made by women that are fairly commonsensical: 1) for lesbians, we don't like what is happening to baby dykes; 2) women are smaller and more likely to be prey to larger and stronger males who wish to use being trans as a costume to gain access; 3) women have had to fight for any space in sports, with equity and parity never having been achieved, and now must compete against people who are genetically designed from birth to beat them; and, 4) we are sick and fucking tired of being told that our concerns are not important.

I want penises segregated. I don't care what they are attached to. It should come as no surprise. I am a lesbian. I have enjoyed my entire life without seeing a penis. I have also been able to manage my physical safety by keeping men at a distance, other than that one time I was raped. I have played sports with shitty equipment and no bleacher support because Title IX wasn't enforced anywhere. I've seen the ERA languish in Congress for decades. I've staved off physical assaults and verbal harassment by men my entire life. Imagine being a woman in a California prison! You get birth control whether you want it or not because the men using a costume to access women have taken advantage of that access.

I do not have the same problem with FTM transgender people. That's because they are far less likely to assault me. I read the stats. As long as the concerns listed above are addressed, then I support transgender acceptance and have, in fact, practiced it myself. I am generally a pretty loving person. But this rampant disregard of and derision for having genuine fears does not help the transgender movement.

by Anonymousreply 168March 26, 2023 12:33 PM

What the fuck is so heroic about a man pretending to be a woman?

by Anonymousreply 169March 26, 2023 12:57 PM

There is a major issue at the moment with TRAs appropriating "The Holocaust" which was mass extermination of Jewish people.

The Nazis didn't build train tracks, concentration camps, gas chambers and furnaces to exterminate disabled people or gender non confirming people, who are by definition NOT victims of The Holocaust.

Of course there were groups other than Jews targeted by the Nazis and subjected to torture and death, however that is separate from The Holocaust.

TRAs feel it's unacceptable for Jews to "monopolise" their suffering at the hands of the Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 170March 26, 2023 1:30 PM

R168, there are a very large percentage of trans people who are on medication for mental illness and have been from a young age. Young people, and young women especially, are more likely to be on antidepressants, especially because recent changes have made them more widely prescribed. It’s now up to 1 in 5 adults.

SSRIs block serotonin from re-entering the bloodstream so as to recirculate in the brain. But most of the body’s serotonin is not in the brain; it’s in the gut; that’s where it’s made. So some people theorize that taking antidepressants actually makes mental illness worse, but it’s not the dominant theory and it’s hard to get help if you believe it, especially if you’re already stigmatized for being mentally ill.

One thing I have noticed is that in the US specifically 70 percent of transitioners are FTM, which corresponds to the higher number of XX people who are on psychiatric medications at a younger age. When you view this from the paradigm that medicine causes dysphoria, it makes sense.

But MTF trans women are also suffering from the same side effects; and the side effects of taking and then going off these medications can be horrible. They can be almost impossible to go off of and cause intense distress. The depression also becomes untreatable by medication eventually. So the idea that dysphoria isn’t real in those cases or that trans women would have an advantage in sports is also biased. Many of them are struggling tremendously every day and I have been in that situation myself.

It may be that for people suffering dysphoria, even if it is meditation induced dysphoria, having broad social support for years while you recover from the injury is necessary for survival.

But dysphoria is not necessarily permanent; it can change over time as circumstances and medicines change. I know that from personal experience.

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by Anonymousreply 171March 26, 2023 1:33 PM

The trans love to rewrite history. Take the recent story of the death of Lucy Salani, supposedly the only Italian transgender to survive the Holocaust. Read beyond the headline and you'll see that he didn't have the op until the 80s. Read his Wikipedia and you'll see that he was actually sent to Dachau for having deserted both the Italian and German armies and wore a red triangle denoting his status as a deserter. Up until the war (and beyond?), he identified as a gay man.

(Obviously one has every sympathy for a gay man who was sent to a camp as well as for someone who deserted the armies of fascist countries. This is about how his story is being presented now.)

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by Anonymousreply 172March 26, 2023 1:45 PM

[quote]So the idea that dysphoria isn’t real in those cases or that trans women would have an advantage in sports is also biased.

And yet, transwomen who have entered women's sports do not seem to suffer anything and beat the women handily.

by Anonymousreply 173March 26, 2023 1:48 PM

R173, you never know what is going on in another person’s mind. They are also the subject of propaganda attacks with huge funding behind them; and none of it is sympathetic or tries to understand what is going on.

Even if there are a few people who are taking advantage, it doesn’t change the fact that many people or even most people who are trans are suffering distress and should not be the subject of an attack.

by Anonymousreply 174March 26, 2023 1:55 PM

[quote]There is a major issue at the moment with TRAs appropriating "The Holocaust"

Soon we'll hear that Germany was defeated by strong black transwomen.

by Anonymousreply 175March 26, 2023 1:57 PM

R174, what's under attack is women's sex-segregated spaces and activities.

I'm sure there is a lot to what you say about the effect of anti-depressants and overprescribing. However, the solution isn't to trample on the legitimate rights of other people. Let's start by abandoning the absurd affirmation model and return to careful differential diagnosis in the treatment of gender dysphoric cases.

by Anonymousreply 176March 26, 2023 2:12 PM

[quote]I knew he was referring to you, [R153], it was obvious. Are you being deliberately obtuse? How very Shawshank Redemption Warden of you, my dear.

It wasn't obvious at all, r156 (and this is the first time I've posted on this thread, for what it's worth). R149 's lack of comma rendered his post unclear.

Love Eddie. He is unquestionably a genius.

He's also bonkers. Always has been.

by Anonymousreply 177March 26, 2023 2:16 PM

Agreed, r176.

I listened to a heartbreaking conversation between a detransitioner & his “gender therapist” yesterday.

He has come to realize that the “gender therapist” put him on a path of self-harm.

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by Anonymousreply 178March 26, 2023 2:16 PM

I'll let Eddie do Eddie, but the whole I was "out as trans way back in 1985" thing is annoying. He was, in his own words, and rather emphatically to anyone who would listen, a straight man who liked to wear both women's and men's clothing. And that was true right up through the late-2010's.

by Anonymousreply 179March 26, 2023 2:41 PM

At least Eddie doesn't invite Nazis to hang out with him or go on marches with him.

I mean they're fucking NAZIS and the TERFs actually invited them to their rally and then publicly marched with them when they showed up. If we have to choose between Nazi/TERFs and Trans, we'll take the Trans 100% of the time.

You girls never should have hooked up with those Nazis. Fox News, the Republican assholes, the fundamentalist Christers, the MAGA scum, you sure can pick 'em and they're all awful - but they're not the Nazis. The Nazis are a bridge too far, my dears. You never recover from a public scandal and disgrace that involves you with the Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 180March 26, 2023 6:16 PM

Wonder what drug cocktail he took when he described himself in "girl mode". Or maybe he needs better eyeglasses or eye surgery.

Hon., that boat sailed long ago. You just an ugly old man, who looks like a silly ugly old man in lady clothes when you dress up.

by Anonymousreply 181March 26, 2023 6:19 PM

I never understood the public fascination with this person

by Anonymousreply 182March 26, 2023 6:23 PM

I loved his stand up act when he took on culture and geo-politics. His androgyny/gender-fluidity used to be endearing. If only he had stayed that way instead of trying to fit in with the “trans” community. Just be your strangely unique self instead of trying to normalize it!

by Anonymousreply 183March 26, 2023 7:04 PM

What R168 said. ALL of what she said. All of it.

by Anonymousreply 184March 26, 2023 7:12 PM

She was born in Yemen.

by Anonymousreply 185March 26, 2023 7:17 PM

R100 witch-hunters were historically puritanical hysterical woman/lesbian/freedom hating nutters. Plus ca change.

by Anonymousreply 186March 26, 2023 7:18 PM

[quote]So the idea that trans women would have an advantage in sports is also biased.

Disagree, R171. Especially if the transwoman in question has already gone through male puberty. This is one point where the tide really is turning, more and more sports associations are banning people born male (or, this week, people who have gone through male puberty) from competing in women's sports. This seems fair and right to me, because allowing these people to compete against women leaves certain competitors with a clear unfair advantage. It really has nothing to do with transgenderism so much as it has to do with the rules of fair competition.

If the anti-trans trolls and garbage human beings in this thread were decent people (i.e. if they weren't just here to fearmonger and if they actually, truly cared about women's sport or vulnerable teenagers being misled by biased and hardly qualified 'counselors' - which they don't), they would acknowledge and celebrate this turning of the tide. Notice how they never mention the Tavistock clinic in the UK these days? The one that has been accused of pushing puberty blockers on confused young teens? That's because the UK government SHUT IT DOWN last year!

The trans actually *aren't* coming for us all! Be happy, trolls! You are safe! It's possible to have a nuanced take on this and not to hate anyone.

Also, R171, if that's you at R174 I agree with everything you've said there. I am not anti-trans, I don't believe it's a mental illness (geez, where have we heard the one before? and it wasn't even that long ago!), I am happy to use whatever pronouns someone would prefer me to use.

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by Anonymousreply 187March 26, 2023 8:19 PM

Fuck no, r187. I’m not compromising with male supremacist terrorists. We never should have allowed them to get this far.

And, yes, they really ARE coming for us.

by Anonymousreply 188March 26, 2023 8:22 PM

[quote]You girls never should have hooked up with those Nazis. Fox News, the Republican assholes, the fundamentalist Christers, the MAGA scum, you sure can pick 'em and they're all awful - but they're not the Nazis.

Months ago someone posted an interesting article about how the radfems of the 1970s and 1980s hooked up with what was called the "moral majority" back then, because they were opposed to pornography. There was a group called Women Against Pornography who were pushing for the government to basically create a bunch of censorship laws to outlaw all porn, a bunch of rock album covers, some books, etc.

There's apparently a long history of certain feminists allying with the oppressive right.

by Anonymousreply 189March 26, 2023 8:28 PM

[quote][R149] 's lack of comma rendered his post unclear.

What lack of comma? There shouldn't be a comma after "Rescue Chick," if that's what you're saying. That was very clearly a list of three things that the "lipstick lesbian" was defending.

Considering this "lipstick lesbian" had something like five or six posts (both before and after my comment at r149) where they were getting confused about who said what, it's pretty obvious that I was not the problem here.

by Anonymousreply 190March 26, 2023 8:31 PM

No-one had it harder during the Holocaust than the trans. Remember all those gay gypsy bar mitzvahs for the disabled? Those were gay gypsy jewish nazi celebrations after tranny-gassings.

No-one ever has it harder than the trans, and their suffering must be centered in all things

by Anonymousreply 191March 26, 2023 8:33 PM

r191 has the intellect of a toddler, so of course she's gravitated to Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 192March 26, 2023 8:43 PM

[quote] And, yes, they really ARE coming for us.

No they aren't, R188. I'm a woman living in a western country, I keep up with the news, I vote etc., and I have yet to have a single one of my rights violated by the existence of transwomen (or transmen). There aren't any law changes on the books, either. I don't even know any trans people (not that I know of, anyway)! I'm fine!

If your heart truly bleeds so heavily for the women and/or children (I know it doesn't, but theoretically) you could make an actual positive impact on their lives by using the time you're spending online to fearmonger about nonexistent threats to support charities and organizations that work with vulnerable women and/or children. But that would men leaving your virtual fear/hate/disgustbox and leaving the house to interact with normal humans going about their normal days.

by Anonymousreply 193March 26, 2023 9:20 PM

R193, your head is in the sand.

by Anonymousreply 194March 26, 2023 9:21 PM

Since this is about the British context:

Story in the Daily Telegraph on 02/27 (twitter capture because the paper is behind a paywall) details what kind of sex/gender instruction the pupils on the Isle of Man were reportedly given. That included a drag queen telling them there are 73 genders, and when a pupil told her there were only two, the DQ allegedly responded 'you've upset me' and made the pupil leave the class. 11-year olds were taught about oral and anal sex, and I'll leave you to read the rest at the link.

There are also disturbing reports out of New Zealand about the TRA physical attacks on the Let Women Speak event and Kellie-Jay Keen. Freedom of speech is non existent if you try to speak about the rights of women publicly.

So much for "I've yet to see any of my rights violated" sanctimonious posters here.


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by Anonymousreply 195March 26, 2023 9:38 PM

What will be his next stupid attention grab now that Labor doesn't want him?. You know if Labor doesn't want you, you are one step up from the wheelie bin.

by Anonymousreply 196March 26, 2023 10:11 PM

We're supposed to be worried about the fucking TERF who invited Nazis and marched right there beside the Nazis because of the trouble they created?

No. We don't give a fuck about the Nazi-inviting TERF cunt who then chose to MARCH WITH THE NAZIS.

If the people who were there to support LGBT citizens got pissed off at the TERFs and NAZIS, so what? I'd have taken a fucking baseball bat to their TERF and NAZI heads.

Yes - gasp - I typed violence! Oh mah gawd! Clutch those pearls, quick! Oh wait, I forgot, TERFs and NAZIS don't have pearls, they're strictly swine.

by Anonymousreply 197March 26, 2023 10:11 PM

[quote]Eddie Izzard is whatever he wants to be, I don't give a fuck and I don't give a fuck what you want

If you can't see the misogyny with a statement like this, I really can't help you. Men deciding who and what a woman is with the support of big thinkers like this guy are the real threat to women.

by Anonymousreply 198March 27, 2023 12:01 AM

fucking lunatic and a hideous one at that.

by Anonymousreply 199March 27, 2023 2:54 AM

It's narcissistic and selfish for ANYONE to insert themselves into the Holocaust.

Anyone approves Izzard's comments should kill themselves now.

by Anonymousreply 200March 27, 2023 3:18 AM

Looks like Jamie Lee Curtis at r10.

by Anonymousreply 201March 27, 2023 3:50 AM

Nope, R195, none of that violates my rights. Although you might be interested to know I oppose the idea of anyone, including drag queens, coming into school to teach children that current ideologies are The Truth. This would go for your lot doing the same, of course.

People protesting is also not a violation of my rights. No transperson and no proposed or current laws in my western country have changed due to loud trans activists online. And speaking of loud activists online, it's weird how y'alls hate each others guts but are all exactly the same. "GROUP X IS COMING TO DESTROY OUR WAY OF LIFE AND CORRUPT OUR CHILDREN!!!1!!11! PANIC! BE ANGRY! BE AFRAID! BE DISGUSTED! I AM MORALLY VIRTUOUS AND ALL WHO DISAGREE WITH ME ARE LITERALLY SATAN!" Do you *really* fucking believe that? Because if so jesus christ please get a life.

You'd have been losing your fucking mind over satanic abuse in daycares if this was the 80s.

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by Anonymousreply 202March 27, 2023 6:05 AM

I've never seen a thread with so many upvotes!

It seems DL is being brigaded by a certain demographic....

by Anonymousreply 203March 27, 2023 6:18 AM

[quote] Monty Python said he was funny and called him the funniest comedian working today.

R52 Which Monty Python?

When? Forty years ago?


by Anonymousreply 204March 27, 2023 6:32 AM

[quote] It's narcissistic and selfish for ANYONE to insert themselves into the Holocaust.

It is sacred.

It is 200 times more sacred than the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

by Anonymousreply 205March 27, 2023 6:34 AM

R202, that's the typical misrepresentation or misunderstanding of 'moral panic'. Moral panics are social contagion phenomena, fully socially conditioned.

The biggest irony - because counterintuitive thinking is hard for many people - is that the bulk of today's trans phenomenon is socially and culturally caused and driven. Take only ROGD - it's the clearest-cut case of social contagion today, driven by social media and peer influence much like the anorexia wave.

by Anonymousreply 206March 27, 2023 6:44 AM

Suzy love here...🥰🥰🥰🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️Solidarity with all my trans brothers and sisters. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 Suzy is Punk Rock, and a for e to be reckoned with!

by Anonymousreply 207March 27, 2023 6:49 AM

*force to be reckoned with!

by Anonymousreply 208March 27, 2023 6:52 AM

R206 Social contagion my arse. Only the smallest minds shall believe such mindless twaddle.

by Anonymousreply 209March 27, 2023 6:54 AM

[quote] Take only ROGD

No, thank you. Keep this diseased acronym to yourself

by Anonymousreply 210March 27, 2023 6:56 AM

As much as I have enjoyed Rescue Chick's recipes, jokes, and saving all those animals, support for fine fragrances, and recommendations on bongs, (I actually purchased one one on behalf her suggestion) why must gay blokes who support trans folk take a backseat here to str8 birds?

THAT is the question. MANY of us support trans folk, whether you like it or not. Don't try to take over this forum, and suggest we shouldn't show our solidarity here... If it bothers any str8 bird so much, perhaps you need to find a new flock! LGBT INCLUDES TRANS!

by Anonymousreply 211March 27, 2023 7:13 AM

[quote] Nazis also were at the forefront of trans surgery

R7 Transgender didn't exist in the 1930s.

This fad is only a recent mental disease.

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by Anonymousreply 212March 27, 2023 7:25 AM

After the Nazis, the Islamic State of Iran was also a world leader in gender reassignment surgery. No gays in Iran. They just get corrected.

by Anonymousreply 213March 27, 2023 8:43 AM

[quote] the Nazis … a world leader in gender reassignment surgery

Do you a have link for that?

Magnus Hirschfeld may have dabbled in similar things but only an ignorant man would describe him as a devotee of Hitler's National Socialism.

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by Anonymousreply 214March 27, 2023 10:33 AM

Eddie Izzard is a misogynist. And too scared to openly debate Kellie-Jay Keen or any other Women's Rights activist. He knows that he can't win that argument.

Men cannot be women. It is impossible to change your sex. Men have NO IDEA of what it is to be a woman because they were not born into a female body. All of their ideas of what a woman is are based on sexist stereotypes and nothing else.

Men can wear what they like, do their hair how they like and call themselves Doris, no one cares. But they don't get to come into female safe spaces because they are not females. Women's safe spaces are there to protect women, not validate men.

Also, keep the trans cult away from children. Transitioning children is child abuse. Conducting medical experiments on children is not acceptable. The Nazi's did that and the world condemned it. Insane doctors do it in the name of trans and suddenly it's acceptable? Watch some detransitioners before you say it's ok. And look at Jazz Jennings and say it's ok.

Do you know what TERF stands for? Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits.

by Anonymousreply 215March 27, 2023 10:47 AM


r211 Datalounge is not an LGBT forum.

by Anonymousreply 216March 27, 2023 12:00 PM

R197 is why women fight. We are sick and tired of being told to shut up. I am a lesbian. If I wanted to be around dicks, I would have spent more time with my father. Screaming "TERF!" doesn't shut us up. Threatening to bash our heads in with a baseball bat sure as fuck will not shut me up. It makes me fight harder and it threatens my bias toward loving and defending marginalized people. Sit down and help us craft ways to make everyone safer. Women are good at that.

by Anonymousreply 217March 27, 2023 12:19 PM

Datalounge is a gay site, r211, not an "LGBT" site and, in any case "LGBT" is made-up bullshit. I don't give a fuck about some ridiculous arbitrary acronym that was imposed upon gay people.

by Anonymousreply 218March 27, 2023 1:10 PM

TERFs marching with Nazis and playing victim.

by Anonymousreply 219March 27, 2023 1:36 PM

The trans loon on DL this weekend must be on her period.

by Anonymousreply 220March 27, 2023 1:41 PM

How, R220, if she is a MAN?

by Anonymousreply 221March 27, 2023 1:44 PM

That reminds me, at work once a M2F once asked a coworker if she had a pad - because she was on her period. Coworker wanted to die.

by Anonymousreply 222March 27, 2023 1:48 PM

Anti-trans bigots don't belong on DL. That's why your threads get deleted over and over again.

by Anonymousreply 223March 27, 2023 1:48 PM

[quote]TERFs actually invited NAZIs to their rally and then publicly marched with them when they showed up.

R180 actually believes that a bunch of middle-aged and elderly women would do this.

by Anonymousreply 224March 27, 2023 2:53 PM

[quote]TERFs actually invited NAZIs to their rally and then publicly marched with them when they showed up.

That's the sort of lies deliberately laundered in the media. When you ask about proof of said invitation, they call you a bigot and a terf. That's the level of grey cell activity we're dealing today.

by Anonymousreply 225March 27, 2023 2:59 PM

I like Eddie. He doesn't seem aggressive in his views and he's said he doesn't care what name or pronouns you use for him.

He seems to be the antithesis of the archetypal trans person that the gender critical side paints all trans people as, but they're still not happy.

by Anonymousreply 226March 27, 2023 3:02 PM

He just wants attention, R226. Simple as.

by Anonymousreply 227March 27, 2023 3:07 PM

Covid destroys grey matter!!!!

by Anonymousreply 228March 27, 2023 3:15 PM

I think the (really, if you gave it two seconds of thought) inevitable pushback has begun.

Keir Starmer just stated that "99.9% of women do not have penises" and yadda yadda yadda women's rights cannot be violated by this yadda yadda yadda. Of course, Sir Keir is known not to score heavily in polls amongst women voters here, so put that into the mix, but it's obvious that a slight shift in the direction of the wind is occurring.

The sports arena was the wedge. Of course, news outlets are still using terms like "pregnant people" . . . because, dontcha know, the maternity wards of St. Mary's and the Portland are filled with biological males in labour.

I regret to say, as a male, that the attempts to demand equality of womanliness with biological females right down to pregnancy and childbirth, simply proves that that ole' Y chromosome seems to confer some mysterious right of privilege that we prove over and over again by demonstrating that there is nothing we can't take away from women if we really want it.

Including their link with what for 200 million years of development of homo sapiens has been specifically, ineluctably, and solely belonging to the female of the species. I'll agree that that has sometimes not worked out well for the female of the species, but just the same . . .

We really are nasty lot.

by Anonymousreply 229April 2, 2023 2:01 PM

A woman's history month panel at my local college was moderated by a transgender woman. But of course.

by Anonymousreply 230April 2, 2023 6:27 PM

Labour have come a long way in the last 3 years and self ID is now dead in the water.

There is no majority for it whether Labour win the next election or not. What has happened to the SNP is delicious. They played to their activist base not the country and then Isla Bryson came along at the worst possible moment. Sturgeon reckoned on a constitutional fight with Westminster but the Scottish public, even nationalists, agree with Westminster.

What there will be under Labour is a reform of the existing 2004 act, to make the GRA process easier and a change to the Equality Act which makes it clear that sex as a protected characteristic is biological sex not legal sex with further safeguarding protections around single sex spaces and exemptions.

The trans loons will go mental but who the fuck cares.

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by Anonymousreply 231April 2, 2023 7:26 PM

[quote]I like Eddie. He doesn't seem aggressive in his views and he's said he doesn't care what name or pronouns you use for him. He seems to be the antithesis of the archetypal trans person that the gender critical side paints all trans people as, but they're still not happy.

Most people are kind and empathetic when it comes to gender dysphoria but Eddie Izzard is asking people to accept that he has been transgender for decades when he was always a man who sometimes wore clothes designed for women, and made that a huge part of his act.

This is an actor who has played Nazi officers, con men, Charlie Chaplin, Edward VII, Long John Silver etc. In 4 decades of acting he's never played a female character and he wants people to believe he's been a woman for all that time.

He can fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 232April 2, 2023 7:32 PM

When are the transgenders going to be told to stop using the words Nazi and genocide?

The Jewish community and other groups who have actually experienced such events need to start speaking up and condemning the use of such language by transgenders.

Social media companies need to ban TRAs when they use such language as it raises the potential for mentally ill transgenders to kill people who simply disagree with them.

Transgender Dylan Mulvaney has multiple corporate endorsements and he was invited to meet President Biden. There is no genocide.

by Anonymousreply 233April 2, 2023 7:38 PM

If you purposely associate with Nazis, you're a Nazi. If you don't object to prominent members of your group purposely associating with Nazis, you're also a Nazi. If you think associating with Nazis is a good thing because they also hate trans people, you are indeed a Nazi.

by Anonymousreply 234April 2, 2023 7:46 PM

[quote]If you purposely associate with Nazis, you're a Nazi. If you don't object to prominent members of your group purposely associating with Nazis, you're also a Nazi. If you think associating with Nazis is a good thing because they also hate trans people, you are indeed a Nazi.

Why did the TRAs in Australia leave the Nazis alone? Why didn't the TRAs challenge the Nazis and get in their faces like they did Posie Parker?

by Anonymousreply 235April 2, 2023 7:49 PM

The first threads about the Nazi incident in Australia (all nuked by now) had many comments from DLers stating how "hawt" they looked, especially their arms and legs in their black shorts and t-shirts.

Wouldn't be surprised if more than a few of the TRAs had a similar attraction to them, although they'd never admit it.

by Anonymousreply 236April 2, 2023 7:57 PM

R230, gee, it’s like the beta males are stealth enforcers of the patriarchy. Maybe that’s why the alpha males support them?

by Anonymousreply 237April 2, 2023 8:05 PM

R235, why did the TERFs invite Nazis to begin with? Because TERFs = NAZIs, that's why.

by Anonymousreply 238April 2, 2023 8:18 PM

R238 I think you speak with a forked tongue.

by Anonymousreply 239April 2, 2023 10:04 PM

I went to one of his show in the 90s and he emphatically said he was a straight guy who liked wearing women's knickers and high heels, NOT a transgendered person.

by Anonymousreply 240April 2, 2023 10:44 PM

If this is the case, Labour have royally fucked themselves with their pushing of the gender identity issue.

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by Anonymousreply 241April 2, 2023 10:46 PM

How is it being a superhero?

by Anonymousreply 242April 2, 2023 10:54 PM

R242 Foolish Izzard believes he's a hero for almost being lynched while foolishly walking the streets of Glasgow at that last election wearing heels and red lippy.

by Anonymousreply 243April 2, 2023 10:58 PM

Just because it takes balls to do something doesn’t mean it’s the smartest thing to do.

by Anonymousreply 244April 3, 2023 12:14 AM

What is a transgender person, r240?

by Anonymousreply 245April 3, 2023 5:01 AM

R241, Labour will probably win the next election, but that's only because the Tories are so shit. There isn't much love for Labour and their vague, student union-style policies and stupid trans pandering.

by Anonymousreply 246April 3, 2023 5:03 AM

Oh, yes, the tide is turning. I keep seeing pieces in the MSM now about how "protection for biological females" is coming up more frequently.

Rowling will go down in history as a courageous heroine.

by Anonymousreply 247April 5, 2023 10:35 PM

Labour are now backing an amendment to the Equality Act which will specify that sex as a protected characteristic in law means biological sex, not legal sex.

Gender reassignment will also remain a protected characteristic.

Eddie should accept credit for this change being made. He's helped so many people realise what rights females need to have.

by Anonymousreply 248April 6, 2023 7:40 AM

Paul Brand is a senior political reporter in the UK. He is married to a man. He and his husband had a baby via a surrogate.

He thinks women who become trans men can develop "male anatomy".

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by Anonymousreply 249April 6, 2023 7:51 AM

He's blond, tall, fit and an egomaniac. He would have done just fine.

by Anonymousreply 250April 6, 2023 8:48 AM

Who? R250

by Anonymousreply 251April 6, 2023 8:51 AM

Does Paul Brand (from the tweet at R249) actually think that those skin burritos work?

by Anonymousreply 252April 6, 2023 9:57 AM

[Quote] Public gays/lesbians/those in same-sex relationships in (non-conservative) politics, media/journalism, entertainment, etc. have shown what utter trash they are.

by Anonymousreply 253April 6, 2023 10:31 AM

^ was for r249

[Quote] married to a man. He and his husband had a baby via a surrogate. He thinks women who become trans men can develop "male anatomy".

by Anonymousreply 254April 6, 2023 10:34 AM

Brand and his partner parent a baby that shares biological characteristics with the sperm donor and the surrogate. They did not have a baby, which implies both donated genetic material. Maybe one day.

by Anonymousreply 255April 6, 2023 11:07 AM

R252, don’t they atrophy & eventually fall off…?

My gawd this is some dark, barbaric shit.

by Anonymousreply 256April 6, 2023 1:24 PM

R251 Izzard, surprisingly.

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by Anonymousreply 257April 6, 2023 1:33 PM

R257 oh! The “tall, blond” threw me. I always thought he was on the short side?

by Anonymousreply 258April 6, 2023 1:43 PM

R258 I looked it up. He's 1.70, which was exactly tall enough even for the Waffen SS. (I'm not saying he is a Nazi. His victim complex is annoying though.)

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