Film twitter preemptively cancels him.
Note to Hollywood: Heaven forbid you should make something original
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 23, 2023 8:33 PM |
Kim Kardashian will replace Kim Novak, who herself will have a cameo as the bell-ringing nun.
God have mercy on us all.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 23, 2023 8:35 PM |
R1 My thoughts, exactly. It's certainly not going to be better than the original, why bother.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 23, 2023 8:37 PM |
WHY?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 23, 2023 8:40 PM |
Ugh!
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 23, 2023 8:41 PM |
Remaking a legendary classic film by Alfred Hitchcock.
What could possibly go wrong?
I love RDJ and I'm happy to see him move on from comic book films or move back to real movies again or whatever. This is not the way to do it. This is a very bad idea.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 23, 2023 8:42 PM |
In my dreams I wish Kenneth Branagh would have done it.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 23, 2023 8:46 PM |
If DL had its way, nothing would ever be made and we would watch nothing but Golden Girls reruns. The Spielberg West Side Story remake was good. The Cooper remake of a Star is Born was good. Maybe we should wait until a thing actually exists before we demand it’s abortion like a bunch of foaming at the mouth Republicans.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 23, 2023 8:47 PM |
Because it worked out so well when they remade Psycho with Vince Vaughn and Anne He He.
There are zillions of interesting stories to be told, why can't Hollywood do something original?
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 23, 2023 8:48 PM |
I'm sure this will interest me just as much as his Iron Man appearances have.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 23, 2023 8:59 PM |
If they insist on doing re-makes they need to stay away from great classic films. Going toe to toe with Alfred Hitchcock and Jimmy Stewart is a recipe for losing.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 23, 2023 9:01 PM |
Blah, blah. More insipid “standards” from risk-adverse DLers who have never created anything.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 23, 2023 9:05 PM |
HORRIBLE idea. Was nothing learned from the Psycho remake?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 23, 2023 9:14 PM |
How many of you HATED
EEAAO?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 23, 2023 9:16 PM |
You’re asking people who post literally hundreds of replies on a thread about the opening credits of Three’s Company.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 23, 2023 9:21 PM |
And haven't some people come out recently and called the original sexist? It doesn't seem like a good idea at all.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 23, 2023 9:22 PM |
Maybe they are going to gender swap the roles and Laverne Cox is playing Scotty.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 23, 2023 9:25 PM |
If you're not going to do it with Liza, don't do it at all.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 23, 2023 9:27 PM |
[quote] Steven Knight To Write Script
Judging by his previous effort he will demand that a Jamaican woman will play the Kim Novak role
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 23, 2023 10:24 PM |
I don't like the scriptwriter nor the haggard-looking star.
But the confusing, ambiguous story about the twin-women could be fleshed out.
But this remake NEEDS the Bernard Hermann score to be halfway as interesting as the original.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 23, 2023 10:32 PM |
Hollywood has been remaking movies since the 1930’s when they remade silent movies into talkies.
There’s nothing wrong with retelling good stories. Stories have to be reinterpreted and adapted into contemporary settings for newer audiences.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 23, 2023 10:39 PM |
True r21, but the problem is they always want to remake the ones that were done right the first time. (In fairness, there are the perennials like a Star is Born, but still...) What they really should do is dig out a near-miss and try to do it right this time around.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 23, 2023 10:42 PM |
WHO is today’s Barbara Bel Geddes?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 23, 2023 10:49 PM |
Viola Davis is today’s Barbara Bel Geddes.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 23, 2023 10:50 PM |
Laverne Cox will play Madeline/Judy.
Sam Smith will play the Barbara Bel Geddes role of Midge.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 23, 2023 10:51 PM |
R22 That were liked?
I mean I just imagine Hollywood stories going on the same way plays have. No one rolls their eyes when “Medea” goes for its millionth run over the last 2,500 years.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 23, 2023 10:54 PM |
So let Downey prove he has no box office appeal unless his fake heart is aglow with sarcasm.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 23, 2023 10:58 PM |
[quote] “Medea” … its millionth run.
You are too generous.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 23, 2023 11:04 PM |
Agree R21. Nothing's inherently wrong with doing a remake, IMO. However, Vertigo is just bad from the start. The whole plot about some dumbo who thinks his dead wife has come back to life.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 23, 2023 11:14 PM |
So many film makers reference "Vertigo". How can one not be influenced by it? However, I don't have much desire to see an on the nose "remake". Seems rather basic. if that would be the case. David Lynch's "Lost Highway" has elements of "Vertigo" and I appreciate and enjoy seeing the seeds of inspiration and the Hitchcock original's effect on other film makers. "Eo" was a fantastic watch this year and certainly influenced by Bresson's masterpiece "Au Hasard Balthazar" but a totally new take on elements of it by Jerzy Skolimowski. Sounds more like an idea pitched in a corporate meeting than a passion project. Who knows?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 23, 2023 11:16 PM |
It's a weird film to remake because the actual murder plot doesn't make very much sense. How did the coroner never discover that the real Madeline was completely drugged up when she was thrown from the rooftop? (That would not have accorded at all with Scottie's story of her suicide.) How did Gavin Elstir ever get down the stairs of the tower after everyone had gathered to see the real Madeline's corpse below it? Why would Judy have been sentimental about keeping the Carlotta Valdez necklace, which would have almost certainly reminded her more of Elstir (who betrayed her and discarded her) and his scheme than of Scottie?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 23, 2023 11:18 PM |
Psssst r31
The second half of Vertigo is catatonic Scotty’s dream
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 23, 2023 11:20 PM |
The second part of the story is confusing. And Hitchcock made two versions of it.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 23, 2023 11:22 PM |
They already remade Vertigo during the Ciji / Cathy Geary storyline on Knots Landing…is Lisa Hartman available?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 23, 2023 11:24 PM |
[quote] Remaking a legendary classic film by Alfred Hitchcock.
Not just that, but remaking what many consider the best Hitchcock and the best film ever made. Why, God, why?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 23, 2023 11:32 PM |
Part of the reason this is so offensive to many people (at least those with a knowledge of show business) is that Steven Knight is an absolutely prodigious shit-factory, not seen since the likes of Akiva Goldsman in the 90s. In the millisecond that Warner Bros. was considering a new Superman film with Henry Cavill, Knight even shat out a treatment for that (it was apparently not good.) He just shits scripts after coffee. So there’s no pretense of thoughtful people doing this, just vain and egocentric show biz parasites shitting on a beloved classic.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 23, 2023 11:35 PM |
The source material is way darker than the movie. Vertigo was adapted from the French novel “D'entre les morts.”
Basically, in the book, when the Jimmy Stewart character realizes Judy plotted together with Madeleine’s husband, that the two of them were having an affair…and—most importantly—that he had never met the real Madeleine, he strangles Judy and turns himself in. Very French. That would be more interesting.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 23, 2023 11:37 PM |
[quote] Steven Knight is an absolutely prodigious shit-factory
Steven Knight is this year's fad and next year's embarrassment.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 23, 2023 11:37 PM |
Another reason this is so offensive is that filmmakers have been remaking Vertigo for fifty years. Brian de Palma did it twice! But no one had the lack of shame to do an outright remake, name and rights and all. This was wildly unnecessary and simply done to piss off people.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 23, 2023 11:47 PM |
Agree this is not needed. Hitchcock was an auteur, I think it's mildly disrespectful to redo their work. Will someone try to remake "Pulp Fiction" in 30 years?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 23, 2023 11:50 PM |
How dare they!
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 23, 2023 11:52 PM |
[quote]The second half of Vertigo is catatonic Scotty’s dream
That's one interpretation of it that is by no means standard, and is neither a convincing nor a very interesting one.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 23, 2023 11:52 PM |
I only appreciated seeing this movie while I watched on the big screen.
I adored the music and was fascinated by the PIRANDELLO aspects to the characters.
(unfortunately I think the 2 main actors are hopeless)
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 24, 2023 12:02 AM |
[quote]Kim Novak, who herself will have a cameo as the bell-ringing nun.
I would prefer Kim Novak in the Grandma Walton role.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 24, 2023 12:13 AM |
Well, there's...
Psycho (1960) and Psycho (1998)
Strangers on a Train and Once You Meet a Stranger
Rear Window (1954) and Rear Window (1998)
Shadow of a Doubt (1943) and Shadow of a Doubt (1991)
Rebecca (1940) and Rebecca (2021)
The Lady Vanishes (1938) and The Lady Vanishes (1979)
...and we all know how that went.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 24, 2023 1:50 AM |
R37, I thought the movie was based on Sueurs Froides.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 24, 2023 1:58 AM |
[quote] Sueurs Froides
Frigid sisters?
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 24, 2023 2:11 AM |
Has Kim Novak reported another rape yet?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 24, 2023 2:22 AM |
DL Faves Charlotte Kirk as Judy (she can relate) and Melissa Beth Miller as Midge.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 24, 2023 2:33 AM |
R29 That’s not it at all but bless your heart for trying.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 24, 2023 2:40 AM |
[quote]the Jimmy Stewart character realizes Judy plotted together with Madeleine’s husband, that the two of them were having an affair…and—most importantly—that he had never met the real Madeleine, he strangles Judy
That makes sense in the movie as well. Why did Scott drag Judy to the tower if not to throw her out one of the windows, to die like Madeline supposedly died? Instead, a never before seen nun suddenly scares into jumping. I understood the whole nun thing - but it works as a substitute for an unpalatable ending.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 24, 2023 2:46 AM |
I took the message to be *nuns kill*.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 24, 2023 2:57 AM |
Albert Hitchcock was a genius. His films cannot be remade; every attempt was a disaster.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 24, 2023 2:57 AM |
R54 OH DEAR!
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 24, 2023 2:59 AM |
R45, there was another remake of Shadow Of A Doubt made in 1958 called Step Down To Terror, with Charles Drake in the Joseph Cotten role.
R39, I know De Palma's Obsession is a quasi-remake of Vertigo (and not a good one either). What was the other?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 24, 2023 3:15 AM |
The thing with Hitchcock is his movies were, for how much fun they are, still extremely personal and awash in shit his weird fucked up fat ass was obsessed with. And none more than Vertigo, which doesn’t have to make logical sense — it’s a tour through that man’s neuroses. Remaking it isn’t the same as restaging Hamlet., which was written with the intention of being retold by different people in different form, as all theater is. Hitchcock was barfing out his subconscious feelings into a nonsense plot and that weirdness, particular to that man, is what made any of it memorable
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 24, 2023 3:40 AM |
[quote] The thing with Hitchcock is his movies are awash in shit his weird fucked up fat ass
Oh dear. I'll quote this in my EFL Class tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 24, 2023 3:44 AM |
It’s show business not show art. If they think they can make a dollar (which is debatable given previous Hitchcock remakes) they’ll do it. That’s the movies. Sure sometimes something deeper manages to get through the system but it’s rare. It’s just about dollars and that’s not new. Shrug.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 24, 2023 4:15 AM |
I feel like “Frenzy” would be a worthy remake.
I don’t feel like it’s an untouchable classic of his and it’s a remake that could actually be a hit.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 24, 2023 5:20 AM |
[quote] “Frenzy”
It was so tawdry.
One reason being he couldn't get the stars he wanted.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 24, 2023 5:33 AM |
I'm not sure he needed the stars he couldn't get: the cast was convincingly tawdry and good, as required.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 24, 2023 5:35 AM |
He wanted Michael Caine instead of Barry Foster (but I personally think Caine is as tawdry as Foster).
I heard there was talk of one actor playing a double role; Foster and Ian Finch.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 24, 2023 5:40 AM |
R7 Why?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 24, 2023 5:41 AM |
Fuck off. Make your own movies. Stop stealing mine.
Just because you've inherited the rights does not make it yours. Have some respect. If we didn't make movies, you wouldn't have a job
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 24, 2023 7:41 AM |
R46
No, it was D'entre les morts. Sueurs froides (Cold sweat) is the title sometimes given to the film Vertigo in French.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 25, 2023 5:20 PM |
R60
Right. Remake a film with a scene in which a woman being raped and murdered is made to look humorous. It was offensive when Frenzy came out.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 25, 2023 5:22 PM |
R59
Speaking only in terms of dollars, I don't think a film about a damaged older man who dominates and remakes a young woman to conform to his necrophiliac fantasy* is going to be very popular.
*Hitchcock said it was about a man who wanted to sleep with a dead woman. He demanded that Coit Tower be visible in the scenes from Scottie's apartment because it was a phallic symbol.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 25, 2023 5:28 PM |
R53
The Vertigo allusion at the start of Psycho III is hilarious and very "nuns kill."
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 25, 2023 5:31 PM |
R52
I read it as Scottie wanting to confront her with what she'd done, not that he necessarily planned to kill her. The nun popping up always seemed contrived to me and Madeleine's death was shocking but funny.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 25, 2023 5:33 PM |
R29
Ask for a refund on your copy of CliffsNotes.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 25, 2023 5:36 PM |
R66, it looks like it's been published under both titles. From WIkipedia:
[quote]The novel was originally published in France as D’entre les morts in 1954. After the release of Hitchcock’s film adaptation in 1958, all subsequent French editions were retitled Sueurs froides ('Cold Sweat') to match the French release title of the film.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 25, 2023 6:11 PM |
Who's directing it
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 26, 2023 12:08 AM |
Vertigo
a film by McG
starring Robert Downey Jr. and Gwyneth Paltrow
I can't wait.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 26, 2023 12:34 AM |
R72
No, the book it was based on, which is what you wrote, was "D'Entre les morts." According to your post, it was only after the film that it was retitled.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 27, 2023 2:55 PM |
Except this time it’s accurately titled “Agoraphobia”.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 27, 2023 3:29 PM |
Remake the greatest film of a great director with iconic stars forever known for these roles? Sure, why not? Is Downey back on drugs?
by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 27, 2023 3:44 PM |