'The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel' season 5

Thank God.

One last chance for sexy Joel to get it on with his BFF Archie.

They could have a scene where Joel confides to Midge that both he and Archie are bottoms.

Watching the first episode now. I'm gonna miss this show when it's gone, there's just nothing else like it. Every frame looks stunning and they've upped their game in the lighting department this season as well.

Unless they show cocks I'm not interested.

R5- They did. That episode when her mother takes an art class at Columbia and she almost faints when she sees a man posing naked- they show him FULL FRONTAL.

That was seasons ago, R6. There's been nary a cock since--can't they at least show Archie's?

R7- I WISH

I'd be happy to see him FULL rearal

If only I could watch without the overly pert machine-gun fire dialog.

R9- I agree . The characters especially Madge have fat too much energy the way they deliver their lines.

They are always “on.”

That's what I hate most about the show, R9/R11.

That and how unfunny the main character is.

Enh, I actually love that about the show; what other show has that kind of Gilmore Girls dialogue? At eight episodes per season, it's like a rich cream you indulge in once in a while.

More like spoiled, rotting cream. Yuck.

I disagree, the dialogue is pretty witty.

I disagree. I think the dialogue is pretty shitty.

Then it's not for you, I guess. Plenty of other TV threads on DL for you to peruse.

Yeah, there are. And I can be on this one as well.

It does get tiring after a while...

Very.

We got it the first five times, thanks.

Anyhoo, I'll miss the gorgeous costumes most of all.

That machine gun fire style, the rhythm of the dialogue is also a shout out to the way sitcoms used to be in the 50's. And those 50's sitcoms with their snappy dialogue and oneliners had their origins in Vaudeville. I am telling you, Mrs. Maisel is meticulous when it comes to serving up authenticity. The settings, the clothes, the dialogue, the characters, the narrative structure, etc. this show is sublime.

Zzzzzzzzz.

I told a lie just then, I'm gonna miss the sexy Luke Kirby most of all. Can he just fuck me already?

Jason Ralph is surprisingly decent as well. Didn't know he was so good at the twitchy, physical comedy.

OMG, I love Luke Kirby. His Lenny is a lot sexier than the real Lenny.

The hot men were the only reason to watch this show.

In terms of the dialogue, I recently read an interview with the show runner, who said each episode script was 50% longer than a standard script, based on the pace of delivery. I’ll miss it, such a unique and excellent show on so many levels.

Well they’re really rolling out the PR machine for the final season.

Rachel Brosnahan is not Jewish! Couldn’t they find a Jewish girl to play the role?

Amy Sherman-Palladino and her dumpy body and her stupid hats. What a fucking hack. She and her hubby constitute one hack.

That subway scene is episode 2 was a surprisingly accurate depiction of how to take the train from UWS Riverside Ave to midtown east. They got every platform and staircase right.

(Just a pity that Milo V can’t do comedy.)

Loved the TWA terminal scenes but that didn’t building open until 1962, a year after the first episode takes place!

Yeah, just like they had in another episode a Streisand song playing a few years before it even came out. Sloppy. They spend more time on the costumes and decor than other details. It's so ersatz.

I still laugh at last season. There was a scene outside the Cherry Lane Theater. It had rained before they shot the scene and there were still puddles on the street. As Marin Hinkle is walking away from the theater you can see her nudging Rachel Brosnahan to the left in order to avoid stepping in a puddle.

^^Just to add, the director had them walking down the middle of the street, to get an atmospheric wide shot, rather than using the sidewalk. Hence the need to elbow her costar.

This show really had a spectacular fall, no?

I loved the first season, kind of liked the second (loved the guy in the swimsuit), and the third wore me out by episode 3.

Why does Milo progressively get worse as an actor with each role?

He was never any good.

R40 Which is why it’s even more shocking.

Why does this show spend so much time with the father writing theater reviews, it has nothing to do with Mrs.. Maisel?

To give Tony Shalhoub something to do, R42.

He’s a supporting character on this show, he needs to support and not try to steal focus

He's also the best actor on the show.

So the hats get bigger with each season, shouldn’t they be disappearing as we move forward in time?

R45 Then was does he come off as a autistic, like many on this board rail against?

I don't know what you're talking about, R47.

[quote] Rachel Brosnahan is not Jewish! Couldn’t they find a Jewish girl to play the role?

Oh FFS. You should feel grateful they've not given the role to Sara Porkalob or Laverne Cox.

The time jumps are an interesting construct for Season 5.

Joel’s tits in episode 3 are sublime.

Why was Susie freaked out by the photo of the tv host and his wife?

OK. I watched the first three episodes. Clearly it is 1960. Kennedys moving into the White House, etc. And the time jumps are well done. I needed more Luke Kirby, but other than that I enjoyed it.

I think Luke Kirby is gone for good.

They’re clearly in wrap-up mode, clearing out everyone who isn’t family (or Susie). Bye Lenny and Mei!

I think I don't like Midge. She's becoming very selfish and unlikeable. I thought she would mature and grow. But she is way too self involved and she is not going to change. The Mike Wallace interview did it for me.

There seems to be a slender possibility that Lenny might make one more appearance. He's not going to die until 1966.

The fifth season seems to be much better than 3 and 4, so far. No stupid, pointless musical numbers, and I love the future footage.

I regret that I did not work on costumes for this.

So can we assume that to a certain extent, Midge Maisel is based on a Joan Rivers type?

More annoying than the overly energetic, rapid fire dialogue is Midge’s manipulative way of prefacing the meat of her words with throw away stuff designed to make sure the focus of attention is on her, personally, not the content of her words. It was especially noticeable in the writers’ room scenes.

The actress playing Mae had scheduling conflicts and Lenny is beginning his long goodbye and they don’t want to cover it.

[quote] The actress playing Mae had scheduling conflicts

How do you know that, R60?

I envy Rachel for having the delectable Jason Ralph as her real-life husband.

The flash forward scenes portray Midge as a real asshole and a terrible mother. I approve.

She was a selfish cunt way back in the first season.

Stephanie Hsu (Mei) was just nominated for an Oscar and has several upcoming projects.

The scripts were written before her several upcoming projects, R65, and before her Oscar nomination. She would be obligated to her contract with the series. They cut her part down because once they made her pregnant she was an unsexy and nowhere-to-go character.

[Quote] It's so ersatz.

Only on DL, kids, only on DL.

R67 seems to think Maisel is completely believable and authentic, poor dumb bitch.

What makes you think she had a contract, r66?

Every actor has a contract on a tv show, R69.

Wrong, but okay.

Which is the greatest sin—that Midge is mean and selfish, self-destructive or not funny?

No, R71, it isn't incorrect. When an actor takes a role, they sign a contract per SAG-AFTRA.

Besides which, no production company or studio works around the schedule of any actor unless said actor is the star of the show, and even then, they are often not let out of their contracts to take other acting jobs while being hired to work on the show or the movie they're on.

I truly enjoy this show. It's not great--like The Sopranos, Mad Men, Succession--but it is highly entertaining. Season 3 was mediocre at best, but it recovered in season 4.

My biggest gripe has been (until late season 4) that Midge is a winner always--even when losing. She's always portrayed as endlessly desirable--by men and women--and never seemed damaged by divorce or professional failure. Also, no negative consequences to being a highly neglectful/unengaged mother.

That started to change midway through season 4 and, in season 5, the show is finally focusing on the dark consequences of her choices. I wish the flash forwards were established earlier in the series to off-set some of Midge's superficial charm. The dark turn has made her a much more interesting character and the flash forwards have made it a much more interesting show.

How predictable that Gordon Ford would be enchanted by Midge.

[quote]My biggest gripe has been (until late season 4) that Midge is a winner always--even when losing. She's always portrayed as endlessly desirable--by men and women--and never seemed damaged by divorce or professional failure.

I agree with you there, but that was part of the show's entire concept. Midge is the fantasy of the young pretty smartly dressed ethnic white woman as endlessly and unfathomably adorable--it's a common fantasy many Jewish and Italian women on the East Coast have. (I remember when Wendy Wasserrstein kept going on and on about how adorable she found Monica Lewinsky when the latter did her interview with Barbara Walters.)

[quote]Also, no negative consequences to being a highly neglectful/unengaged mother.

You're not paying attention. In the flashforwards, we see her daughter has grown up to be estranged from her selfish mother.

And Ethan, too. He doesn’t even tell her he’s getting married.

Midge seems like someone who has emptiness at her core. On an emotional level she's 13 yrs old and she never gets over it.

R61–read r53’s link.

It’s the 5th season, when is the “Marvelous” part going to kick in, or was that always supposed to be ironic?

Reid Scott is hot.

I hop we see Midge's parents die painfully.

I like Midge's mother, but the character of her father has been insufferable.

I did read it, R80. Palladino is making an excuse for why they didn't keep her in the show.

Bullshit. You don’t build up a character into a pivotal plot point and then drop her for kicks. It is a fact that the actor had other commitments.

You're naive, R86. The storyline sucked and they knew it.

Well there really was no place for Mei to go. If she and Joel married, doe she continue with school? Does she go to Chicago? Do they do the long distance thing? The story arc for them was running out. If they'd stayed together, married, had the baby, she becomes a doctor, etc. they either become a sidebar sitcom or a spin off series.

I don't want this to be the last of Lenny. I got goosebumps every time he entered a scene. Luke Kirby deserves a much better fade out than that airport scene.

"It smelled like oolong and ash." I love Midge's mom and her fabulous coats so much.

Does anyone know why Susie was freaked out by the photo at the end of the third episode? Who was that woman in the photo?

Michael Zegen has such a nice body. Buff, but in a relatable way, if that makes sense.

OK, watching episode 4. There's a theatricality about this episode that gave me a brainstorm. Mark my words they are going to do a broadway musical about The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. You heard it here first.

[quote]Alex Borstein wants to do a Marvelous Mrs. Maisel stage musical

So does Susie have a lesbian past? It would seem so.

R92 I swear I did not see this. But if they do it well it's a great idea!

Milk it, Alex. Milk it!

If she does a musical, I hope they find something for Mrs. Swan. Perhaps Midge could pay a visit to Gorgeous Pretty Beauty Nail Salon.

I can see three acts: The early days; the middle period finding your identity and finally getting popular, and act 3, the denoue'ment where she falls out with Susie, her kids hate her, and Lenny is dead.

[quote]Joel’s tits in episode 3 are sublime.

He has amazing tits...the stuff dreams are made of

And we still don’t get Joel’s ass

^ speaak for yourself...

[quote]Amy Sherman-Palladino and her dumpy body and her stupid hats. What a fucking hack. She and her hubby constitute one hack.

Agreed, r31.

[quote]So does Susie have a lesbian past? It would seem so.

It's been alluded to many times, r93, but now it's confirmed.

[quote]She was a selfish cunt way back in the first season.

From the first episode, r64. I never understood why we were supposed to root for her.

Is hot Erik Palladio (one of the mobsters) related to ASP’s husband?

Hey, R98! What about us?

Doesn't our Joel have the most beautiful titties you've ever seen?

He takes after his mother.

[quote]So can we assume that to a certain extent, Midge Maisel is based on a Joan Rivers type?

Assume ? That has never been a secret from the producers or the cast.

R98 Watched the episode last night, and all I can say is WOW ! He looked great. I don't think he had that body the past few seasons.

But this is taking place in 1961 - truly, no guys had muscled chests like that back then at his age. No man was going to a 'gym' since there were so few around. No guy was eating healthy and keeping their bodies in shape like that. They may have been weight-proportionate, but not developed like that - especially their arms.

Nice use of a Joan Jett tune.

[quote]Nice use of a Joan Jett tune.

A little on the nose, but I admit that I laughed aloud, r107/Elderlez. I seriously dislike Amy Sherman-Palladino's writing. She is known for stealing material and not attributing it. She won't even call them homages, claiming them as her own. The trashcan dance in the most recent episode was a lift from Gene Kelly, and the group dance in Sophia Lennon's telethon was stolen from Bobby Banas.

It's Always Fair Weather.

Hey Stargazer!

I certainly got the sense that it was “in case anyone is in doubt about what this fight is about or if Susie is a lesbian, here’s a song for ya’”

Ha!

Yes, Elderlez!

I am really wondering where this will end.

Love the costumes and the interiors for this show! I binged on S1 and S2 but my attention waned after that. There have been some great-looking men on the show.

I would like to see a film about the real Joan Rivers (DL icon), but am not sure who could play her. Kristen Wiig as adult Joan?

Does the guy playing Archie remind anyone of Matt Gaetz? At least the hair?

Thirsty bitches, rejoice! We're going to be seeing a lot more of the beautiful Luke Kirby, hopefully in some sort of sexual context featuring the also incredibly fuckable David Alvarez.

R114 I SAW that and was just getting ready to post it. Thank you to all the gods in the universe. Why does he have such an effect on me? I think he is incredibly sexy.

The growth of Susie’s business is happening too quickly. Was there a “future” scene last week?

This whole “Midge gets a win and then totally fucks it up” thing has gotten really tiresome.

The entire fucking show is tiresome. She is so unfunny and yet they want us to believe that audiences love her? You just want to kick her in the cunt.

^ Stevie Nicks

I like the way everything looks in this show, so I can’t stop watching, but I hate Mrs Maisel and her yappy parents. They are not adorable and Mrs Maisel is a bow legged boob. Not funny, not plucky, not smart. Just a spoiled bore. It is an emperors clothes situation when the audience is roaring at her tiresome quips. But I do love Suzy.

The Palladino-Sherman hacks could have shown dick anytime and didn't. Unforgivable for a show with a cunt as a mai character.

And every Jew cliche known to mankind.

r120, I agree, except for the Suzy part. She is as annoying as hell.

Annoying as fucking fuck, like the whole show. The only real enthusiam on this thread, understandably, are for the tits of Zegen and Johnstone.

I kind of want to learn that at some point, Zelda and Janusz killed the Maisel parents. Abe in particular deserves a slow and painful death.

I actually like Midge's parents. THey're nuts.

I like the Midge parents too.

But I really like Joel's parent - Shirley Maisel steals almost every scene she's in.

Alex Borstein will get an Emmy for the most recent episode.

I thought the same thing r128.

I love just about everything about this show. Susie is my favorite character, and never fails to make me laugh.

Best episode of the series.

I liked her on MAD TV but I can't stand that troll doll on this show

My ABSOLUTE favorite scene of all time was when Susie crashes some lady’s funeral, the actor himself had died and Susie touched on an emotion I get every time someone dies and I don’t find out until months later, because some self absorbed cunt forgot to tell me.

My great dad had a huge send off of a funeral, where the entire town and hundreds of people showed up to pay their respects on a July 4th weekend, so it’s really hard for me to see no one show up for a funeral.

Alex Borstein needs to win an award for this!

[quote]Alex Borstein needs to win an award for this!

Well, then you just make her one and trot it on over to her.

There has been no diminution in the beauty of the clothes. I don't know that they're keeping up to period, exactly, but the period they're stuck in is more stylish anyway.

I am continuing the policy I've had since halfway through Season 2 of fast forwarding to the next outfit of Midge's or her mother's, or watching with the sound off while doing a crossword. I loathe Sherman Palladino's work, including all her characters, but all hail the costume designer.

Just saw the most recent episode, that was tremendous from start to finish. Borstein nailed the look and the mannerisms of the old manager cunt who's seen everything and is tired of everyone's shit. The way she rolled up to her roast and was the first to leave in particular made me laugh.

I loved it, but thought it was a little over the top at times. The Midge storyline was annoying, but I guess they had to come up with a way to get her mostly out of there so they could create a great episode. It really was great television.

Nobody watches the show for Susie’s clothes, but I thought the styling and clothes for her more mature years were fantastic. She evolved into a more professional, sophisticated version of herself. Susie dressed exactly like a man and being a successful agent in the decades of her career would not have made sense.

I really enjoyed the scene Susie has with Ford’s wife in the prior episode. I wish they’d had more time to develop that storyline.

Midge never bothered me that much before the last few episodes, but good god she is awful. Her “snappy delivery” makes me wish a bus would hit her. Not that they give her great material. Her stand up routines are terrible.

It's famously impossible to write good stand-up for a TV show. I find it better than similar efforts in that regard.

I imagine if TV writers could succeed at stand-up, they’d be doing it.

SNL has managed to do it for a while. Yeah there have been some bombs and bits that didn't work, but t hey've managed.

They write skits, not stand-up.

Sherman Palladino wrote a character who was a comic and therefore was tasked to write standup routines for that character that not only were funny but should have allowed the audience to believe the character, through her standup, was charismatic and appealing. Sherman Palladino failed in this for five years. Midge was miserably unfunny throughout. Sherman Palladino should have hired actual comics who could have written funny standup sets instead of the crap she wrote.

That's been such a small part of the show looking back now, I really don't get this hangup all these years later.

I think the reason some of Midge's bits weren't as funny as we hoped is because we weren't just seeing a one dimensional comic doing their routine as we do when we watch an actual stand up performance. We are seeing her as a fully realized person with a back story and a life beyond the stage. And even more important we are seeing her in the earliest stages of her career, and watching how it progresses along with all the bumps in the road. Living in an apartment, losing it, buying it back, having parents, children, an Ex, and in-laws, riding in cabs, getting bad bookings, etc. So we have a totally different context to see the character in, as opposed to the background we'd fill in and invent for some comic we see on TV, or at a club.

Huh, see what I'm thinking when I watch Midge's standup routines is how much I'd like to suck on Joel Maizel's beautiful tits and maybe jack off on them...

[quote] Sherman Palladino wrote a character who was a comic and therefore was tasked to write standup routines for that character that not only were funny but should have allowed the audience to believe the character, through her standup, was charismatic and appealing. Sherman Palladino failed in this for five years. Midge was miserably unfunny throughout.

Midge is based on Joan Rivers. If you ever watched an early Joan Rivers routine, you realize that only about one of every five of her jokes were funny. Midge has never gotten as mean as Joan was during her “fat Elizabeth Taylor” era but Midge’s comedy is 100% early Joan Rivers.

I know a lot of you loved that Susie episode, but they are spending to much time on the side characters for a final season when they should be concentrating on Midge. I’m still awaiting something to justify the qualifier of Marvelous and quite frankly I don’t think it’s going to get there by the end. I certainly don’t care about the cook/maid getting married and I’m sick of her parents especially the father. I only know Tony from that Tucci restaurant movie and people have always said he’s a good actor, but he just comes off as autistic and irritating in this and a very little goes an extremely long way. If anything the Lenny Bruce character should have been bumped up to main cast and the time spent should have focused on him and Midge. And the actor who is Rachel’s real life husband seems completely a nepotism casting and pointless. At least he’s cute, but he’s almost indistinguishable from the talk show host and they seem the male equivalents of Shiska goddesses for the Jewish woman to work off of and spark.

[quote], I recently read an interview with the show runner, who said each episode script was 50% longer than a standard script, based on the pace of delivery.

I wonder what percentage longer was the script for West Wing or That Sportscast Show With Felicity Huffman and Josh Charles that Flopped

"Sherman Palladino failed in this for five years. Midge was miserably unfunny throughout."

You're wrong and the whole point of the series was that her real life was often funnier than her stand up. The character of Midge is funny as fuck. Her stand up routines are funny given the time period the series takes place in. What people found funny back then is really different from what we find funny here in 2023.

I love the show and am sorry to see it go. It's been great this season but nothing can top the Catskills episodes.

R147 Susie isnt a side character, she's as much of a lead as Midge, and has been from the start.

Everyone but Midge is a side character, just like Maude was about Maude and The Mary Tyler Moore Show was about Mary. Everyone else is supporting, it’s right there in the title.

Who's the star of Moby Dick?

I'm not wrong, R149. She's forced and unfunny. Great for you that you love the show, but to me she's an asshole and not at all amusing.

the one big flaw in an otherwise great show is that her act's not funny

Her act is not funny and neither is the rest of the show.

The truly big flaw is no dicks.

^ but Joel Maisel has some nice big sexy titties

I prefer when shows dump all the episodes at once. Because it givens continuity. I can't remember from one week to the next. And I lose the atmosphere created by the show which, IMO is key to appreciating it. You watch an episode, you react to tension building or you pick up the nuances, an d then it evaporates. Ofcourse I know why they do it. If you want to watch a particular series, and you binge it, the way the streaming services are set up, you can cancel them after you binge. Where as, with one episode a week, they get more $$$ out of you.

R148, The West Wing scripts ranged from 5,000-7,000 words. The Ozymandias episode of Breaking Bad, for comparison, was 3,200.

The time jumps are hard to follow.

Hank Azaria is still sexy even as a codger.

Azaria, Shalhoub, Johnstone, Sweet Tits Zegan...and not one cock shown in that entire bunch of bananas.

The roast episode felt forced. Like, the entire thing had a “For your consideration” ribbon. The equivalent of Oscar-bait, so I guess Emmy-bait.

Mrs. Maisel is not without its flaws, but overall, this show should win Emmys. It is very unique. I'm loving everything about it, especially the clothes and Midge's parents are hilarious. Joel's parents are more slapstick, but I still love them too. And don't get me started about Lenny Bruce/Luke Kirby. Damn he is sexy. So glad t hey're doing another series and he will be the central character. Luke, not Lenny.

Was that Sutton Foster’s audition to do a biopic series about Mary Tyler Moore?

Please god, no.

Won't be hard to say sayonara to this show, but I do miss the actor who died who'd played the club manager. The guy playing Archie was ripped apart on another DL thread.

Midge is thoroughly unlikable.

Still no marvelousness, and again more unneeded time given to the cook/maid.

The cartoonish obliviousness of Midge and parents is just irritating at this point.

why are you guys still watching if you hate the show so much? I mean, there are other things on TV to watch.

There’s got be a big death before the end right???

[quote]why are you guys still watching if you hate the show so much? I mean, there are other things on TV to watch.

It's called hate-watching, r171.

It's called dumb-watching r173.

Why are you posting about people posting, R171?

R172, there is a BIG DEATH in 1965 and I sincerely hope the show doesn't include it.

I enjoy the two leads but I’m not sure why Tony Shaloub at The Voice is a necessary subplot. Nothing interesting happens there. The Joel and Mei storyline was long and dull. The matchmaking with the lead character’s was okay but that went on too long. The show only finds it’s groove when Brosnahan or Bornstein are onscreen.

Agree. How much time was wasted on Shaloub's misspelling of Carol Channing's last name?

R177 the characters are well to do New Yorkers in the 60's and the Village Voice was a Leftie progressive news paper finding its footing back then. And since they are Jewish, the whole match maker thing is really important. It was a thing back then among the affluent Jews, even if you weren't Orthodox. Joels father being in the garment industry, and Joel running a night club, all of it, all those characters give us a flavor of the times and the place.

A flavor, fine. They give us an overload.

Which seems totally appropriate to that milieu.

I thought Abe's storyline took a nice turn this week and made some earlier scenes really pay off.

I also thought Princess Anne's appearance on the Gordon Ford Show was funny...funnier than any of Miriam's stand-up bits.

Margaret, you mean. But Ann would have been funnier.

Thanks, r183. I guess I don't know my BRF.

At least you knew it wasn't that ruthless slag Camilla...

I can’t believe they fucked up the chance to have Helena Bonham Carter reprise her role as Margaret, the could have carved out a hundred thousand from the bloated costume budget and hired her for the cameo. It’s unrealistic that every outfit everyone wears is new each time. People had a few good outfits they wore in rotation. Those clothes at this point wouldn’t fit in the Classic 8.

Helena Bonham Carter is 20 years too old to play Princess Margaret in the mid 1950’s

R187 she didnt play her in the 50s. She started playing her in the mid 60s. Still a bit too old at that point in Margaret's life but not 20 years too old.

Oops nevermind. Didnt see you were responding to someone about the lady playing her in the last episode. However, this wasnt the mid 50s. Isn't the main story in the 60s?

Right now it's either '61 or '62. They mention it in one of the episodes.

“I’m still awaiting something to justify the qualifier of Marvelous“

See also: Rory Gilmore

Reid Scott is hot as hell--even though I thought he was good looking bit not exceedingly so on Veep.

Only one more episode. Sexy Joel could at least give us one ass shot!

No such luck, r193

I just finished watching. I loved it. The final episode is very satisfying.

Have to agree, even though I've hate watched most of the episodes.

I loved the scene in the Chinese Deli......no spoilers....

The phone bit with her mom was so sweet, as was the taxi chasing scene. Shame the actor playing Moishe couldn't make it for Midge's big scene. Completely missed the fact that Julie Klausner was playing Maggie from the office across the street.

I'm not familiar with Carol Burnett, but my god that segment of hers was everything. Was she really this spellbinding in real life?

Luke Kirby gracing us with one final sexy smile that damn near charmed my panties off. So glad they spared us the whole tragic ending.

[quote]Was she really this spellbinding in real life?

Moreso.

Basically, they hit all the right notes for the close. I guess Midge’s act would have been much funnier at the time than it us to us , She’s playing a pioneer. Like Diller and Rivers. Comedy is of its time.

Except thar Diller and Rivers were funny, for their time. Midge, not so much.

Has anyone ever mentioned whether Midge is funny or not?

Susie has always been my favorite character throughout the series. Her delivery is so spot on, I was even laughing my ass off at that silly skunk joke. The golden mules she was wearing were a nice touch too. Where was she living with all those parrots? Mexico?

Overall I think the ending was perfect.

Midge did seem too rich for a successful comic. Maybe she used the time travel and got in on Microsoft early.

I know Brosnahan’s stand-in, Meg. She stood in for Rachel all five seasons (same height, complexion and hair color).

They gave her a small part onscreen in the final episode. I’ll love them forever for that.

Pretty sure Susie was supposed to be in Hawaii. Did she ever get laid in the series?

Beef, The Other Two, Ms Maisel finale (flashback to 2006, I know)... Three times in two months I've seen those hexagonal glasses in shows now, I guess they are officially a thing.

Old Susie looked amazing, they even gave her the liver spots and everything.

^well given that Borstein is over 50, Susie Meyerson’s probably in her 90s in 2006.

I know, that's why I liked that they aged her skin everywhere, not just on her face.

I would have placed Susie in her late 70's early 80's. Midge would be in her late 60's early 70'.s. I don't think they were more than 6-8 years apart. Susie just looked really bad compared to Midge. the JAP.

Hopefully Rachel Brosnahan will disappear now.

I want more Luke Kirby. I watched a movie of his about three years ago and he was hot.

He’s the star of the producers’ next series.

Rachel is not the problem. Midge is.

From the start, Midge had sharp edges. I don't think she was ever this endearing Jewish housewife. She was emotionally brittle, and mouthy, and competitive. Certainly not your typical housewife in the 50's and early 60's. She was even kind of obnoxious. Her friends loved her sense of humor and her audacity. But the character was always "performing." She did it to submerge her feelings, she did it as a protective shell against feeling hurt, and she did it to hide or soften her ambition. (not very successfully in that last one.) Even when we were rooting for her, on her side, she often did things that were infuriating or seemed inexplicably cruel. Maybe Joel cheating and leaving her was a huge trauma she determined to never feel that bad again. She needed to prove how tough she was after that. To recover and succeed. But Midge was not a likeable heroine.

In their phone call, one of them jokes about Susie moving to a different continent to get away from Midge, so I was guessing SE Asia.

R216 she could have been in South or Central America.

Hawaii, dummies. It was the spot where she stood up Phillip Roth at thw altar

So Midge is all alone in her multi million dollar place at the Dakota (the Yoko reference). No children. The Streisand song about staying too long at the fair. No comment on how the “aged” Midge? Not bad

Just finished the Susie roast episode. I am enjoying this season much, much more than you assholes led me to believe I would.

That's heartwarming, R205, but in her place I'd have been "fuck that, just hand me a bunch of those costumes! I've kept this figure for five years for you bitches!"

This was easily the best season since the first. I thoroughly enjoyed it and I loved the finale.

So Maisel and Succession stuck the landing. Barry was a major meh. If anyone's keeping score.

I have already forgotten the Barry finale!