Another World
For whatever reason the "celebration in our Marvelous Midwestern Town!" thread won't let me post and I'm too big an Another World fan to be left out of the discussion...so here's a new thread, for all Another World fans, all the time!
(Plus, with "Another World" in the title, this thread will also be easier to search for in the future, so that helps.)
I'd love to hear more from the person who worked in the Another World production offices and was speaking about how wonderful Charles Keating was...only my question is this: supposedly Vicky Wyndham was cool with the Justine storyline when it began and then grew to hate it later on. Is that true? Was there any sense of that around the studio? Did people feel it went off the rails?
I mean, I get it - she went from being an unhinged Victorian Countess to a wacko in a nun's habit with a hook hand, LOL, but still, I'm curious about how that evolved. I think you said you worked on the show during that time....
And given the Anne He he snub at the Oscars last week, I've been rewatching some of her Vicky/Marley scene and DAMN, her work is even better than I'd remembered it. Here's a montage from before she left the show:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 165 | December 12, 2024 2:29 AM
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Holy shit....Charles Keating played a frickin VAMPIRE on Port Charles after Another World???
Crazy! Did any of you watch this???
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 1 | May 10, 2023 8:45 AM
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I personally think Anne Heche's best work was on AW.
She made Vicky and Marley into two very distinct characters.She gave each of them different postures and body language. I could glance at the screen with the sound off and instantly tell if she was playing Marley or Vicky.
None of Heche's other film or TV roles ever challenged her like AW. And none of them gave her such a great range of material to play.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 10, 2023 8:58 AM
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That horse accident was ridiculous.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 10, 2023 12:48 PM
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Why was it ridiculous? Pretty well staged, I'd say. Practically feature film level stuff compared to the "hope the walls don't fall down" quality of soaps these days...
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 12, 2023 5:47 PM
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[quote]Practically feature film level stuff compared to the "hope the walls don't fall down" quality of soaps these days...
I remember an episode in which Michael slammed the front door when he entered the penthouse, and the wall shook so hard, Donna gave him quite the stare.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 12, 2023 6:07 PM
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Happy Birthday, Linda Dano, who turns 80 today.
I’m sending her a dozen boas as we speak.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 13, 2023 12:52 AM
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Holy shit - she's 80???
I always loved her. Hope she's doing well. Her stint on Days as replacement Vivian was not so great but whatever.
Long Live Felicia Gallant!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 13, 2023 1:13 AM
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I LOVED Another World back in the late 70s/early 80s. Blaine (Laura Malone) was my favorite. When I watched Ellen Wheeler played Vicky/Marley and I never saw Anne Heche play them. I was a little hesitant to watch clips last year as I thought Ellen was fantastic, but I have to say Anne really did a fantastic job. And Felicia and Wallingford were quite the team!
Thanks to the DLer who started this thread. (Or should that be WHOM). Go ahead "Oh, Dear" me.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 13, 2023 2:03 AM
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A dual role can really show an actor's chops. For some , like Heche, it was a chance to shine. The same with David Canary (Adam/Stuart) and Martha Byrne (Lily/Rose), For others, like Wyndham's Justine, Frantz on B&B (Amber and her idiot lookalike) and Jen Landon (Gwen/Cleo), it showed how limited they were.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 13, 2023 2:25 AM
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Love late 80s, early 90s AW! Anne Heche was astounding. Charles Keating was my favorite, and I adored the whole Carl-Ryan storyline. Also loved Alicia Coppola, and basically anything Cass & Frankie.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 13, 2023 2:28 AM
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I remain team Cass and Kathleen
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 13, 2023 2:29 AM
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I didn't start watching until 1989 so when Kathleen showed up back from the dead, I was all, "Who dis bitch?!"
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 13, 2023 2:33 AM
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Harding Lemay was a drunk. It didn't help his writing. So many society characters running around talking about their station in life. Bay City was written like it was Cannes or Palm Beach. Why would the rich flock there? To swim at Iris's ABOVE GROUND pool? God Lord, the production values were awful. So much pretension.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 13, 2023 2:48 AM
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[R13] I loved Another World, but I have to admit that I always found it strange that Cory Publishing, a major publisher and Felicia Gallant, a world renowned author, would choose to set up shop in podunk Bay City. Did they get lost on their way to New York?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 13, 2023 2:54 AM
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I thought it was always established that Bay City was a fairly large city, as was Oakdale and Monticello. Springfield was a small town.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 13, 2023 2:57 AM
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If Bay City had a harbor and was set in Illinois (since the 1980s), then it must have been part of the Greater Chicago area?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 13, 2023 6:33 AM
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I assumed it was probably supposed to be a San Fran esque place or something. And somehow close enough to Canada to get all four seasons. *shrug*
I actually thought Justine was delightfully disturbed, but yeah, the writing (at first) did that, and VW's creepy eye rolls and accent did the rest. Maybe not a brilliant dual performance (Rachel was useless at this point), but still memorable.
So cool that you saw Ellen Wheeler as the twins and not Anne, r8. I missed the "birth" of Marley/Vicky and therefore found Wheeler's return later on extremely weird. Her Marley was so weak and emotionally messed up then (a car accident and hospital fire will do that to you I suppose) that I couldn't believe the strength of her original performance lead to the creation of a twin.
...was she compelling as Vicky when that character debuted, or silly?
Also, for the record, the Corys had a wonderful in ground pool.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 13, 2023 8:23 AM
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Bay City Michigan....and Somerset was right across the bridge.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 13, 2023 10:15 AM
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I recall one episode where someone said that you could see Chicago from a high window in Love Tower.
Anyway, for the Charles Keating fans, I suggest a deep-dive into the 1970s British tv series "Crown Court." Charles was a regular, playing one of the barristers. The show concept was a mix of fiction and reality -- each week a fictional case was presented, but to a "jury" made up of real people pulled from the voters rolls. The jury voted on the case to determine how the episodes would end.
It's a fun watch.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 19 | May 13, 2023 1:24 PM
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[quote]Bay City Michigan
This might be right, but I remember seeing a printed invitation to something at the Cory mansion which said:
10 Underhill Terrace (maybe 11) Bay City IL.
At least, I think it said IL.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 13, 2023 2:36 PM
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Morgan Winthrop was fucking hot as hell.
Christ.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 13, 2023 9:54 PM
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[[R17]] Ellen's Marley was such a soft spoken sweet naive young girl just back from boarding school in Switzerland. A lot of the differentiation was makeup. Marley's was soft and demure, and Vicky's harsh. But she did a good job making the two seem very different personality and movement wise also. Ellen and Jake (Tom Eplin) fell in love and got married but divorced soon after. Ellen went on to directing which I think was her forte. I remember reading some interview with Ellen mentioned that she had been raised Mormon so she had never drank alcohol.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 13, 2023 11:59 PM
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[quote]Morgan Winthrop was fucking hot as hell.
Am I remembering correctly: he went up to the roof of the hospital to smoke a cigarette and was never heard from, never mentioned again?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 14, 2023 12:02 AM
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The writers change locales at their whim. For years, I thought GH was set in LA, then suddenly it's Port Charles, NY. Salem, Oregon was the locale of Days, then it was in Ohio or Illinois.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 14, 2023 12:50 AM
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Friend of Blessed Memory, Val Dufour was on "Another World" and others. No sure if it was AW where he was killed off. Scene at night on mountain, teeming rain, loses control goes over cliff. To get the whipping rain it was shot at a car wash (minus soap) at Houston near Broadway, now an apartments. Does this sound familiar?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 14, 2023 1:11 AM
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I loved the ABC & CBS soaps, but never watched AW because it seemed too low-rent.
Fun fact: Victoria Wyndham’s son (Christian Camaro) played the Ice Truck Killer on Dexter.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 14, 2023 1:46 AM
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[quote]Christian Camaro
Christian Camar[bold]g[/bold]o
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 14, 2023 2:00 AM
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R26, AW hit the big time with the Alice/Steve/ Rachel triangle. Ratings soared with that storyline, and many still consider it soap's all-time best triangle. Robin Strasser was a bitch beyond compare.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 14, 2023 2:01 AM
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R23 Nope. Morgan was a doctor unlucky in love who left town after his coworker/crush was murdered by her abusive boyfriend.
He had the body of a God though - think yoga plus football - and it never made sense to me why the women weren't throwing themselves at him 24/7.
He was younger brother to lawyer Cass Winthrop, played by Stephen Schnetzer.
I never actually saw his last episode, but I doubt the character smoked or got such a lame sendoff.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 14, 2023 4:10 AM
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LOL I remember the Walter car crash - they played it over and over as a flashback of Lenore's, even though Lenore never witnessed it. They also would show Walter going to his safe to look at the scarf that could clear Lenore of Wayne Addison's murder.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 14, 2023 10:14 AM
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Morgan was alright, but any plotline involving Cass' sister Stacey was a guaranteed snore-fest. Especially the time they tried to pair her up with Michael Hudson.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 14, 2023 11:51 AM
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I can’t believe you people watch soap operas. The absolute lowest low brow white trash thing. How totally embarassing.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 14, 2023 12:18 PM
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R33 go back to struggling with your crossword puzzles. Turn in your gay card, you tard.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 14, 2023 12:29 PM
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I didn't even know Cass had a sister! Interesting how neither were mentioned or appeared at Cass' wedding in the finale.
Did Victoria Wyndham have an eating disorder? She clearly was always thin, but in the final years she always wore loose shirts and seemed to have body body at all. She looked as thin as Ellen Wheeler (who was, let's face it, scary thin!)
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 15, 2023 7:51 AM
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I never warmed to Gary and Josie 2.0 even though she looked so much like the original actress and they clearly warmed to each other. They got married in real life. Wonder if they stayed together.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 15, 2023 7:54 AM
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R35 I preferred Cass as a roguish free agent, and giving him an extended family was not the best idea. Morgan could have just been a new young doctor assigned to the hospital; there was no real need to make him a Winthrop.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 15, 2023 12:56 PM
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At least it forced him to curl his hair..
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 15, 2023 3:08 PM
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I was always surprised that Dr John Hudson never came back to the show after his affair with Felicia...
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 16, 2023 5:17 AM
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[quote] For whatever reason the "celebration in our Marvelous Midwestern Town!" thread won't let me post
Are you a paid DL subscriber, OP?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 16, 2023 5:25 AM
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I had a soft spot for Cass' sister played by Hilary Edson (Tania on GH) but hated the actor they paired her up with for most of her run with the long hair and the facial scar. Talk about a snooze.
I also had the hots for the original recipe Evan Frame (played by Charles Grant). Big, beefy with blue eyes you could get lost in. The replacement was a total dweeb.
Jamie Frame (played by Laurence Lau) was a cutie too. The replacement not so much. LL still looked hot when he was on OLTL.
None of the replacement actors on AW ever worked from Gary/Josie to Evan, Jamie and Amanda (and that includes Judi Evans version of Paulina).
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 41 | May 16, 2023 7:37 AM
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Hey hey hey....I loved Judi Evans as Paulina!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 16, 2023 8:32 AM
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R42 - I love Judi Evans too but she wasn't scheming vixen Paulina (especially coming off her portrayal of Adrienne on Days who was always in tears). The whole thrust of the character changed and they turned her into a coffee pouring Frau working at the diner.
And don't get me started on Jensen Buchanan as Vicki. She took a rich, complex character and dumbed her down to a nothing. The equivalent of Laura Wright's portrayal of Carly Corinthos on GH. Say what you will about Anne Hehe but her portrayal of Vicki (and Marley) was chef's kiss.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 16, 2023 9:17 AM
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[quote]And don't get me started on Jensen Buchanan as Vicki.
That's "Vick[bold]y[/bold]."
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 16, 2023 10:38 AM
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Anne Heche was spectacular....and a recast, so that kind of disproves your theory ;)
I was also a bit bummed seeing Paulina's life become mundane but at the same time, it was heartwarming how much Joe loved her. And she still got good storylines.
I loved her weightloss/friendship with Cindy/drug addiction storyline. It was pretty grounded for a soap to show how a woman would go to extremes to try to lose weight. I even cried watching her forgive Cindy in the final episode (I know, I know!)
Kim Rhodes, though less celebrated, was fantastic.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 16, 2023 7:19 PM
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Bay City was a wealthy suburb of Chicago.
I thought everybody knew that!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 16, 2023 7:25 PM
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Though Jensen couldn't hold a candle to Anne, she doesn't deserve all of the blame for the turn Vicky took as a character. That didn't happen until she'd been playing the Hudsons for several years, and it was a direct result of new writers fucking up the show starting in the mid-ish 90s.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 16, 2023 7:53 PM
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I prefer different worlds
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 48 | May 16, 2023 7:56 PM
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r47 Thank you, Sylvia. It pisses me off when people think actors are to blame for writerly mistakes. Do they think the actors make the stories and dialogue up when they go home at night?
That said, I did prefer Anne Heche's Vicky.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 16, 2023 8:06 PM
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R44 - She'll always be Vicki with an I in my heart :)
But my point wasn't recasts in general but the fact that the recasts that were brought in were lessers and usually a complete 180 from the person playing the character previously. Judi Evans is an amazing actress but I don't think she was right for the Paulina that was established before her. They should have brought her in as the real Paulina that Jake found to disprove the identity of Paulina #1.
Another example of this was Anna Stuart and Philece Sampler. Anna Stuart WAS Donna Love. Philece Sampler who was good on Days turned Donna into a simpering wimp. The sexy, sassy Donna only came back once Anna Stuart came back to the role. It had nothing to do with the writing.
Also Kim Rhodes was amazing and a queen! She did comedy, scheming, romance and drama all equally well. She reminded me of Lynn Herring's range from GH.
R49 - Actors aren't to blame for bad writing only their bad acting. A good actor will make you believe anything they're selling even with cheesy writing. We are talking about soaps after all, where there are entire populations of towns coming back from the dead, long lost twins lurking behind every corner and masks are so convincing they fool family, friends and lovers during sex. Let's get real, we're not discussing Shakespeare in the Park or a Mamet play.
Jensen Buchanan was a shitty but sometimes serviceable actress whether she had good writing or bad. She was also a piece of wood on OLTL and GH. I don't think she unveiled her amazing acting abilities on AW when I wasn't looking. Sorry.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 16, 2023 10:01 PM
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Am I really the first to mention Brent Collins as Felicia Gallant's sidekick Wallingford? He came into AW for 4 weeks but was so popular that he stayed on for four years more until a bizarre growth spurt caused his death at 46.
He was an entertaining actor and worked extensively off Broadway as well. A true gentleman.
Pardon the crappy video quality and schmaltzy tune. There isn't of lot of his work out there.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 51 | May 17, 2023 3:02 AM
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They gave Wallingford an extremely classy send-off on the show. Linda and Stephen even did that rarest of things and addressed the audience directly about how much their friendship with Brent meant to them.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 52 | May 17, 2023 3:36 AM
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I loved the Cass, Felicia and Wallingford antics. It was a real loss to the show when he died. I used to watch AW with my father, he treated it as a comedy and liked Cass especially. He’d say”look at that dumb son of a bitch” and laugh.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 17, 2023 7:26 AM
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LOL - that's beautiful. My Mom thought Cass was handsome as heck.
Looking at those credits after the Wallingfird memorial, I had no idea Sherri Anderson from DAYS worked on AW! I imagine me that's her listed in there...
Regarding Vicky, I've heard people say the problem was that they merged her with Marley and made her too normal or nice, too much the heroine or something. I guess that's true, but since people do mellow as they age, and Vicky had two kids from two different fathers, plus a dead fiancee, I guess she'd chill out a bit.
I personally disliked her once Bobby/Shane entered the picture and Jake became her backup. Shane was dull as hell and Jake deserved better than to live in Ryan's shadow, which, let's face it, he always would. Vicky claiming he was her true love when we knew that wasn't true was lousy, and her cheating on him with Bobby compounded things. Then Shane died and it was like...I guess you should feel better now, Jake?
But I liked Jake as a fun stepdad to Steven and Kirk, so that felt like an improvement in her life. But adjusting to them as a couple, after he'd slept with her mother and raped her sister? That was too much. Everyone in Vicky's family seemed to have to get with her wants and needs and hop yo her tune and it wasnt a good look. Poor Marley standing in as her on her wedding day to Jake? After what he'd put her through? No ma'am. Not a good look.
Then again, nowadays they'd have probably had Vicky get back with Grant again after Ryan's death, just for the drama of it. Mark Pinter was terrific though, but that would have been awful.
R50 so glad you appreciated Kim as well. I loved her. Brilliant actress, really.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 17, 2023 9:05 AM
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I am almost 50 years old and a faggot and I have never known another faggot who have ever watched a soap. Ever. All you all snatches?
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 17, 2023 9:11 AM
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Um.....good for you? So you're saying that if you don't know something, it doesn't exist? Huh. Okay then.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 17, 2023 9:19 AM
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And then there was someone named Rhonda Lewin who played Vicky only, never Marley, for about six months between Ellen and Anne. I was watching then and she was really bad.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 17, 2023 11:19 AM
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I remember them dropping hints that Donna may have actually had TRIPLETS and that Scott LaSalle (played by hunky Hank Cheyne) would be Marley and Vicky’s trip brother, but it never came to pass.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 17, 2023 11:22 AM
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Well don't take my word for it, R55. Ask the two men who have run the encyclopedic Another World homepage for decades.
Or ask my gay former coworker, with whom I used to while away the hours on long drives to conferences discussing the minutiae of AW and Dallas.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 17, 2023 1:05 PM
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Is Prime Time over? Testing...1 2 3.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | June 15, 2023 11:36 PM
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I watched soaps... sometimes because i was home and Mom had the TV on... Another World was a show she watched..
Later, I was in college for the GH madness of Luke, Laura, Scotty Baldwin, Heather, Diana Taylor, etc... The soap I watched was AMC.
for the life of me, I cannot regurgitate characters, actors, storylines, resolutions, re-castings they some of you (maybe it's just one deranged fan who re-reads their Soap Opera Digests) seem to do.
Could AW have really been THAT important in your life?
There have been AMC threads that entertained here in DL-land, but I don't remember them having the total recall of this AW thread.
Again, AW was that important?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | June 16, 2023 12:03 AM
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[quote] Again, AW was that important?
Rachel-Steve-Alice
Iris-Mac-Rachel
Harding Lemay
And most importantly....Jamie's short-shorts.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 16, 2023 12:13 AM
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AW was my lifeline at times. I would tape episodes while I was at work and watch them over the phone with my friend, Travis who did the same. We would sync our tapes, watching and gossiping and laughing through the night. DL before datalounge; great memories!
by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 16, 2023 12:28 AM
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One of my fondest childhood memories in the early 1980s was summer breaks during my high school years. I would always work a part-time job and get home around lunchtime and watch soaps the rest of the afternoon. Initially a fan of the ABC lineup (AMC, OLTL, GH, EON), I then switched over to watching AW and GL. I started watching around the time Cecile and Alma were gaslighting Blaine. (I always loved how each AW episode ended with a freeze frame.) Donna Love was my favorite character. She was sophisticated, pretty, well dressed, and snobby. Although there were years when I no longer watched the soaps, I really do miss them now.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 16, 2023 1:03 AM
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[quote]Again, AW was that important?
Things that made me gay…
1. Nancy Frangione as Cecile De Pulignac
2. La Dano as Felicia Gallant
3. Iris’s (above ground) swimming pool.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 16, 2023 1:12 AM
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Yes, Another World was/is important!
Grew up watching it with women who are no longer here. It was neat how different people in separate homes could all tune in and have these fictional characters in common.
Didn't understand the complexities of the character histories, but loved the warmth of the cast and how no one was so rich they were cold or unrelatable. Bay City was a believable place.
Felicia and Cass were great friends, and both their homes were nice and not over the top. Loved Cass and Frankie. So down to earth.
Even the Cory mansion, with all that red wood, seemed so homey. The livingroom, the backyard pool, the study...those places were real to me.
The AW actors in Brooklyn just rose above the material aiways. Other soaps seemed trashy and cheap to me. Another World had class across the board.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | June 16, 2023 3:08 AM
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Joe Carlino was sexy as fuck. Always bare chested, hairy pecs, great mischievous smile...great voice.
Ugh.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 16, 2023 3:10 AM
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[quote] Morgan Winthrop was fucking hot as hell.
[quote] Am I remembering correctly: he went up to the roof of the hospital to smoke a cigarette and was never heard from, never mentioned again?
He became Betty Buckley's boy toy.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 16, 2023 5:29 AM
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Considered the last "old-fashioned" theme of Another World. Subsequent themes had more advanced graphics and more modern music arrangements.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 70 | June 16, 2023 5:35 AM
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So he really did get with Betty Buckley? How did that go? Were they public about it? Was it a 6 month fling?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | June 16, 2023 8:31 AM
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[quote] So he really did get with Betty Buckley? How did that go? Were they public about it? Was it a 6 month fling?
It lasted a couple of years, I believe. It was common knowledge in NY, but they weren't very public about it. She's not the sort to parade her partners around. Apparently, she dumped him and he was far more into her than she was into him.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 16, 2023 9:12 AM
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I watched AW for years and the last few years were absolutely fucking horrible. I watched some scenes on YT recently and it was nothing but absolute cringe. It is at the same point GH is now. 100% pure cringe that needs to be canceled asap.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | June 16, 2023 10:47 AM
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Alice and Steve were soap's first big couple in the COLOR tv era. Viewers were invested because Jacquie Courtney was a teenager when the show debuted, and she blossomed under Agnes Nixon's writing, into the younger sister anyone would want. Combine that with a dangerous/rich man - Steve Frame - who is used to getting what he wants, and Alice resists him, so he falls prey to Alice's sister in law, the bored wife of an intern, Rachel. Yeah, I am a fag who was 8-9 years old at the time, and I remember it well.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | June 16, 2023 10:51 AM
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I remember finding Eddie Drueding's AW site in 1997; I promptly ordered all of his tapes and devoured endless hours of preserved history. AW was different from other soaps somehow. I love, LOVED that show and those characters.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 16, 2023 1:02 PM
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That's sweet, R64. Humans love stories, and soaps are storytelling like any other entertainment medium; there's no reason for them to be singled out and pissed on. Soaps create a group of "mutual friends" that people from all over can share to gossip and wonder about.
One of the first internet forums where I was a regular participant was rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc (because TPTB at usenet didn't see fit to gave nbc soaps their own forum!)
by Anonymous | reply 77 | June 16, 2023 1:04 PM
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R64 That's sweet! Humans love stories, and soaps are just storytelling like any other entertainment medium; there’s no reason for them to be singled out and pissed on. Soaps create a community of “mutual friends” that people from all over can have in common to gossip and wonder about.
One of the first online forums where I was a regular participant was rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc (because NBC soaps didn’t get their own usenet forum!)
[quote] The AW actors in Brooklyn just rose above the material always. Other soaps seemed trashy and cheap to me. Another World had class across the board.
THIS!
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 16, 2023 1:08 PM
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Whoops. DL lag strikes again.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | June 16, 2023 1:14 PM
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Vee who is in the biz you know is reviving AW. Dumb Dylan is his assistant.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 16, 2023 2:40 PM
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R76 how many tapes did you order? How much was shipping?!? LOL
R74 It was 1998 that was really bad. Carl going mad and attempting to kill Rachel, then abruptly dying (because TIIC wanted Chatkes Keating gone and his character ruined on the way out), followed by Boca Linda crap, with Carl's "brother" and Caneron and Josie fucking right after losing Amanda and Gary (suuuuuure)....then crazy Marley/Marney wanting Jake back and nearly killing Vicky....
Once the Jordan Stark/David Halliday/Reincarnation/Secret Garden stuff began in 1999, and Grant was killed almost in a jokey way, it was sad. Like the terrific cast were stuck in a Days of our Lives knockoff series.
But it seriously corrected course in the last few months. Alice Barrett was brought back, Carl was redeemed and resurrected, Marley was sane again....if they'd gotten a last minute reprieve and stayed on the air, I feel like AW would have bounced back.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | June 16, 2023 4:21 PM
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r64, I did the same with my friend Walter until he died. Such a good memory.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 16, 2023 4:29 PM
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R81, it was long ago. Eddie had (has?) compilation tapes, ie: The Best of Mac&Rachel and year in review. I contacted Eddie through email and expressed my desire to purchase 4-5 at a time. I believe his tapes were $10-20 each depending on the length. Eddie was so generous and kind, I believe he didn't charge me for shipping because I ordered so many. I have them stored away somewhere. . . I think his entire collection is on YouTube now.
Eddie, if you are reading this, I love you man. Cheers to Canada.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | June 16, 2023 5:14 PM
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[R65] I remember that storyline as I grew to LOVE Blaine. It always was amazing to me how just changing a storyline for a character could make them go from villaness to beloved. I remember Laura Malone (Blaine) got pregnant and was on maternity leave. When she came back she didn't lose the baby weight quickly enough and they fired him. She then became a lawyer and had a pretty successful career. I thought she was beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 16, 2023 11:14 PM
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I hated the storyline of Carl being Ryan's father.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | June 16, 2023 11:25 PM
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I was the bestest Blaine!!!
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 16, 2023 11:27 PM
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R75, I remember that all so well. I think Alice/Steve/Rachel made the cover of TIME. Robin Strasser was such a bitch as Rachel, but she made AW must-see TV.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 17, 2023 1:39 AM
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Everything was over with this show the minute they dropped THE from the title. THE ANOTHER WORLD was never the same
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 17, 2023 2:11 AM
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R85 I loved that storyline!
by Anonymous | reply 89 | June 17, 2023 2:19 AM
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Another World made the cover of Time magazine?!?!?!
I never heard that one before.
Are you perhaps thinking of this cover below with Julie and Doug, the other super-couple of the early 70s, along with Steve and Alice of AW.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 90 | June 17, 2023 3:23 AM
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Carl being Ryan's father was a breakthrough idea that served both characters well. Why did you dislike it?
by Anonymous | reply 91 | June 17, 2023 2:55 PM
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Given all the trouble Carl Hutchins had wreaked on the Corys in the past, he should never have been brought back, let alone as Rachel's lover/husband. But no decision was made those days that wasn't stupid.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | June 17, 2023 6:28 PM
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I didn't mind the Carl and Rachel falling in love and getting married storyline until they had those twins.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | June 17, 2023 6:33 PM
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I loved Carl; evil Carl and reformed Carl. My favorite scenes were Carl with amnesia, when he was in "love" with Iris. Charles Keating was great fun to watch!
by Anonymous | reply 95 | June 18, 2023 2:51 AM
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Reformed Carl was pretty much the only villain reformation storyline I liked when it came to soaps.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | June 18, 2023 3:31 AM
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Agreed!
I missed all his early days of villainy, and I think the show did a fair amount of work trying to show how incompatible he was with the Corys. Amanda resented him to the point of inventing a fake persona - Sydney Prescott - to make it seem like Carl was having an affair so that her mother Rachel would leave him. Poor Iris hired a stupid goon to help her fake "shoot" Carl at his wedding to Rachel, only for her to actually shoot Carl and end up in jail and disowned by the Corys (and never to be seen again on the series). Pretty much the only person in the family who gave him a chance was Paulina. Even after Carl came back from the dead in the final episodes, Matt nearly flipped out at the mere sight of him. I'll never forget how the commercial break seemed to miraculously cause a complete change of character, and by the time we came back to the Cory livingroom he was welcoming Carl, albeit hesitantly (while reassuring Amanda they'd keep an eye on him).
Carl's past plagued Rachel in the form of Justine and Alexander Nikos. It wasn't like his misdeeds were 100% swept under the rug to force him on viewers even though he had no talent and no reason for getting more screentime (Hi Ben Weston!). Carl never really got the full seal of approval from anyone besides Vicky and Rachel and Paulina, which makes sense.
A shame we didn't get to see more of Ryan's life being affected by having a former mobster for a father, trying to live a better life in Bay City.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | June 18, 2023 4:47 AM
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Here’s Laura Malone ho-ing it up with hot male AW cast members. Rick Porter looks hot!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 98 | June 18, 2023 5:27 AM
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r98 The guy on the left looks like Strudel.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | June 18, 2023 5:28 AM
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NOT ONE of you bitches has mentioned us?!?!
by Anonymous | reply 100 | June 18, 2023 5:40 AM
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It should be of no surprise to anyone that it took three men to hold Laura Malone up on that surfboard.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | June 18, 2023 5:42 AM
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Even though I enjoyed Rachel and Carl getting together. I had to ignore every bit of history to enjoy it. Because it made zero sense, just based on what he did to her and her family over the years. It would be like if Marlena suddenly fell in love with Stefano. But Victoria Wyndham was happy and that was really all that I care about.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | June 18, 2023 5:43 PM
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They should have convinced Nancy Frangione to stay in 1989, and brought back Dennis and Peter Love around that time so she had someone to play with besides Cass.
I loved the bitchy scenes between Cecile and Donna when Cecile was engaged to Peter.
Her 1989 return also showed why Laurence Lau was miscast -I couldn’t imagine Cecile with his Jamie.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | June 18, 2023 5:52 PM
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I thought Laurence Lau was miscast until I did a rewatch of 1988 - 1990. I thought his chemistry with Anne Heche was amazing. There was this scene where Jaime fucked Vicky on the kitchen table at the farm that was blazing hot. It was also during this time that they gave him a relationship with Russ, which I thought was a great nod to history. I was disappointed when Lau was replaced by Russell Todd.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | June 18, 2023 5:59 PM
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[quote] Jaime
No, it's J-A-M-I-E.
Jaime is the spelling of a Latino man's name, pronounce HIGH-may.
Again, J-A-M-I-E.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | June 18, 2023 6:03 PM
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[quote]Again, J-A-M-I-E.
Alright, damn. Sorry. I have someone in my life who spells it Jaime and I guess I type it that way from muscle memory.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | June 18, 2023 6:06 PM
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Then call him HIGH-may, r108.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | June 18, 2023 6:07 PM
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R105, I liked those scenes between Cecile and Donna as well. There was one really great scene (when Cecile returned to Bay City), where Cecile was complimenting Donna on how great she (Donna) looked. Then Cecile mentioned how when she gets Donna's age she hopes to look as good.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | June 18, 2023 6:43 PM
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How do you go from hotter than hell Stephen Yates to shrimpy but cute Larry Lau? Jamie Frame was another too often cast character ala Tom Hughes and Patti Tate.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | June 18, 2023 8:09 PM
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Jaime Jaime Jaime Jaime
Fight me, cunt.
Stephen Yates was not right either. No one did it better than Richard Bekins.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | June 18, 2023 11:39 PM
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[quote] Stephen Yates was not right either.
He was the perfect Ben on Guiding Light though.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | June 18, 2023 11:42 PM
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Richard Bekins was angry/lost/Mama's boy Jamie.
Stephen Yates was porn star Jamie.
Laurence Lau was 'Steve Frame' Jamie.
Russell Todd was soap opera hunk Jamie.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | June 18, 2023 11:47 PM
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I remember when Brian Krause played Matt Cory. Man, I used to pound my mound thinking of his penis in my hairy flappy pussy.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | June 19, 2023 12:00 AM
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Every time I think of Laurence Lau, I can't help but see him married to Lucinda Walsh, but making moves on her GRANDSON!
by Anonymous | reply 116 | June 19, 2023 3:19 AM
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Jaime Sommers told me that the her spelling/pronunciation is French. Jaime Escalante confided that his spelling/pronunciation was Bolivian.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | June 19, 2023 3:56 AM
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You bitches need to focus on the REAL questions.
Whatever happened to hot piece Stephen Schnetzer?
by Anonymous | reply 118 | June 19, 2023 7:13 AM
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He does a lot of voiceover work r118, he was the voice in Lexus commercials for years.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | June 19, 2023 7:43 AM
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Stephen Schnetzer popped up—EXTREMELY RANDOMLY— in a “Billions” episode a couple of seasons ago.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | June 19, 2023 7:53 AM
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Felicia Gallant and Cass Winthrop were GenX’s first experience with lavender relationships, yes?
by Anonymous | reply 121 | June 19, 2023 7:56 AM
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Whatever happened to Victoria Wyndham?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | December 8, 2024 3:47 PM
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VW has never participated in any of the AW reunions. Does she not enjoy reliving her experiences?
by Anonymous | reply 123 | December 8, 2024 4:00 PM
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She is still around. She recently sold her LA apartment and is back on her estate with her horses. I believe she still has the place on the Upper West Side, and one of her sons lives there on and off. She's still close with Richard Bekins, Sandra Ferguson, and Matt Crane from the show. Soaps were always just a job for her; she had other passions and has never found a compelling reason to go for walks down memory lane about something she saw as only a job; she is not sentimental about things like that.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | December 8, 2024 4:50 PM
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was she Michael Scott’s lovably weirdo girlfriend?
by Anonymous | reply 126 | December 8, 2024 5:03 PM
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VW always looked like she'd be a pain behind the scenes. But in everything I've read, it doesn't sound like she was much of a diva at all.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | December 8, 2024 5:12 PM
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Whatever happened to Brand New Sexy Donna?
by Anonymous | reply 128 | December 8, 2024 5:17 PM
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[quote]VW always looked like she'd be a pain behind the scenes. But in everything I've read, it doesn't sound like she was much of a diva at all.
She fought for things that were important to her, but she never threw diva fits. She despised Michael Malone and some of the other writers and had problems with them, mostly about not getting the character. After her heyday, she would always say that she was just part of the company of actors and crew, another cog in the wheel. She never got special treatment like some of the other names on other soaps, even on her own show, but she plugged along because it was just a job and paid for her to do the stuff that she really loved. If Another World were still on today, she'd still be there.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | December 8, 2024 5:28 PM
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Stephen Schnetzer sure was a cutie, and he comes across very pleasant and fun in interviews.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | December 8, 2024 6:48 PM
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Does Bev Penberthy's little homosexual nephew still post here?
by Anonymous | reply 131 | December 8, 2024 6:52 PM
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Stephen Schnetzer was on DAYS this week , reprising his role as Julie’s brother, showing up for Doug’s funeral. He looked great. They should have him back permanently, now that all of the older leading men on that show are dropping like flies.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | December 8, 2024 6:57 PM
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Stephen Schnetzer and Linda Dana seemed to be the EveryMan and EveryGal on the AW set. Got along with and were friends with everyone.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | December 8, 2024 7:00 PM
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R128 Philece Sampler, AKA Brand New Sexy Donna died in 2021. She was only 67.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | December 8, 2024 7:03 PM
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R135 Didn't one of the soap magazines actually refer to Philece as the "brand new sexy Donna" when she took over the role?
by Anonymous | reply 136 | December 8, 2024 7:05 PM
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Philece did a lot of work as a voiceover actress, especially on anime.
She would have been better as Nicole Love. She was no Donna Love-sorry BNSD.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | December 8, 2024 7:09 PM
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Schnetzer is 76. Holy shit! I'd still suck on his sausage, though.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | December 8, 2024 7:13 PM
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Philece is why we lost the triplet storyline and got the stupid Donna, Michael, and John story.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | December 8, 2024 7:24 PM
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God, I loved this show. It was my mother's "laundry-folding soap" when I was a kid (OG Mac-Rachel-Iris era), and became a favourite for quiet drama baby queen me. Was lucky to have it to keep me company during a prolonged illness as a teen (the Cory Publishing anniversary party stands out from that period), and kept up with it semi-regularly until the very end (skipping anything Lumina-related).
The large number of attractive men had nothing to do with it, of course (Matt Crane, Grayson McCouch, Stephen Schnetzer, Diego Serrano, Stephen Yates...take your pick).
Incidentally, although someone posted some group photos from the 60th anniversary thing earlier this year, the Another World Home Page has a bunch of individual shots Some folks (Judith Barcroft, Alice Barrett, Diego Serrano, Russell Todd) aged really well...and then we have Barbara Rodell, John Bolger and Gail Brown.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 140 | December 8, 2024 8:01 PM
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Always thought Linda Danno was a dyke-the hair and she was such a power house.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | December 8, 2024 8:11 PM
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The theme song was cool.Crystal Gayle and Gary Morris song.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | December 8, 2024 8:12 PM
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R142 My mother was a CBS viewer but one day the tv was turned on NBC for whatever reason. Just the theme song hooked me. It was the summer of '95 when the Justine storyline was playing out. I know!
by Anonymous | reply 143 | December 8, 2024 8:15 PM
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Omg r140-Laurence Lau looks like he should play John Ramsey in a movie about Jon Benet.
And Susan Keith looks like the eccentric lady who runs an occult bookstore.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | December 8, 2024 8:33 PM
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I didn't know Rhea Perlman used to go by the name Leonie Norton.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | December 8, 2024 8:42 PM
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R140 I don't see Cass in that family pic. Did he miss that reunion?
by Anonymous | reply 146 | December 8, 2024 8:43 PM
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It always shocks me the mess Jensen Buchanan made of her life with that DWI- She really fucked up the passengers in that other vehicle- It was horrifying-
From what I know she now lives a very private life up in WA.
And as a OLTL fan, her best work was during Sarah's rape by Austin Buchanan in 1989- the episode where she shoots him-
It was EXTREMELY lurid and very disturbing. I do not know if that could air today they way it did then.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | December 8, 2024 9:07 PM
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What ever happened to Alexandra Wilson? I loved her as Josie. We did not need a new Josie.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | December 8, 2024 9:25 PM
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I'm watching old clips on YouTube. Ian Rain was a fine piece of studflesh
by Anonymous | reply 149 | December 9, 2024 12:27 AM
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[quote]Stephen Schnetzer and Linda [Dano] seemed to be the EveryMan and EveryGal on the AW set. Got along with and were friends with everyone.
Both were close with Brent Collins (Wallingford) as well, r133.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | December 9, 2024 4:48 AM
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Because of this thread, I went down a rabbit hole of AW clips on YouTube. I just need to say it again, Jensen Buchanan and Judi Evans were all wrong for Vicky and Paulina. Anne Heche and Cali Timmins owned those roles.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | December 9, 2024 8:13 PM
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R151 But Connie Ford was perfect as Ada.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | December 9, 2024 11:16 PM
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Totally agree r151-I stopped watching when Cali and Anne left. The switch from Cali to Judi, in particular, was jarring.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | December 9, 2024 11:21 PM
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Where is the P&G soap thread now?
by Anonymous | reply 154 | December 9, 2024 11:29 PM
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Was Cali fired or did she leave on her own?
by Anonymous | reply 155 | December 9, 2024 11:32 PM
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The justice of the peace who married Rachel and Mac in 1975 was Ralph Camargo, the real-life father of Victoria Wyndham.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 156 | December 9, 2024 11:45 PM
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Here you go, r154, "Wishing You a Marvelous Midwestern Christmas."
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 157 | December 9, 2024 11:51 PM
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I think Cali was fired to make way for Judi Evans R155.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | December 9, 2024 11:52 PM
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Can someone link the new P&G soap thread, please?
by Anonymous | reply 159 | December 9, 2024 11:57 PM
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Tell me about Wallingford. I caught scenes of his memorial service on AW. Quite emotional. I know who the character is, but it was way before my time. Enlighten me.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | December 10, 2024 6:45 PM
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R159, see R157.
R160, I always thought of Wallingford, Cass, and Felicia as a chosen family.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | December 10, 2024 10:11 PM
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Wallingford first appeared as an associate of Cecile’s in 1984, right before she left Cass standing at the dock in Majorca with Kathleen.
He ended up having a crush on Felicia, which turned into a deep friendship with Felicia and Cass. He was involved in many of their absurd capers in the mid-80s, and became a confidant of most of the characters on the show before he passed away.
The year prior to his AW debut, he played Mr Big, a drug kingpin on ATWT, and when Tom and Margo investigated him, they fell in love.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | December 10, 2024 10:50 PM
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I wanted to kick Ada in the cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | December 10, 2024 11:53 PM
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Come on, Beverly Penberthy’s little homosexual nephew. Hook up with Queen Alan Locher and get him to interview Beverly on The Locher Room before its too late!
by Anonymous | reply 164 | December 11, 2024 6:47 PM
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R3 & R4 referenced a horse accident. Does anyone have a link?
Thanks!
by Anonymous | reply 165 | December 12, 2024 2:29 AM
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