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Is this the future of masculinity?

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by Anonymousreply 135May 16, 2023 8:12 PM

Where’s Billy Porter in this?

by Anonymousreply 1March 19, 2023 2:43 PM

The red carpet is hardly the barometer for the average working man

by Anonymousreply 2March 19, 2023 2:44 PM

Who's the one on the left?

by Anonymousreply 3March 19, 2023 2:45 PM

Maybe in the Hunger Games Capitol.

by Anonymousreply 4March 19, 2023 2:50 PM

Where's Sam Smith?

by Anonymousreply 5March 19, 2023 2:51 PM

This isn’t about masculinity, this is decadence. These are powdered wigs and red cheeks and high heels of the nobility.

by Anonymousreply 6March 19, 2023 2:54 PM

I mean so the Oscars looks like the MTV Awards now, big deal. It’s nothing new.

by Anonymousreply 7March 19, 2023 2:55 PM

[quote]Is this the future of masculinity?

Possibly for liberal men, who have become very feminized in recent years.

Remember how in the '90s we used to say, "Is he gay or just European (or British)?" whenever a European guy came off rather effeminate.

Now it's, "Is he gay or just liberal?" It's astonishing how easy it is to pick out a liberal man vs. a conservative man these days simply by just looking at him.

by Anonymousreply 8March 19, 2023 2:57 PM

Timmy Shallowmay look pissed that she lost out to Polly Holliday as the sassy side-kick in Alice.

by Anonymousreply 9March 19, 2023 2:58 PM

If you're constitutionally incapable of not dissing Tim O'Tay, r9, could you at least make sense?

by Anonymousreply 10March 19, 2023 3:02 PM

What is the sex appeal of these flamboyant trends? Who's the target demographic - both to lust after and to emulate? I don't just mean in the context of virtue signaling on the red carpet. What about off the red carpet? What about among the populace as a whole? As a gay man, I find any man dressed like that an absolute turn off. Even Paul Mescal, who oozes sex appeal otherwise, becomes unappealing in that Oscars getup. Give me a regular/masc man in a "boring" tux, keep these flamboyant attention whores.

by Anonymousreply 11March 19, 2023 3:03 PM

Attention whoring celebrity men. Nothing new.

by Anonymousreply 12March 19, 2023 3:04 PM

Only young men dress like this?

by Anonymousreply 13March 19, 2023 3:24 PM

Amen r11

by Anonymousreply 14March 19, 2023 3:27 PM

Few men today are dressing like this. I see hordes of young men still dressing in a pretty rustic hipster style. Look around you.

Feminine influences were much more prevalent in men's clothing in the 1970s than they are today.

I don't see any of those red-carpet styles trickling down to the average guy any time soon.

by Anonymousreply 15March 19, 2023 3:31 PM

Agree with R11.

by Anonymousreply 16March 19, 2023 3:32 PM

OP, are you and others here worried for the future of masculinity?

by Anonymousreply 17March 19, 2023 3:52 PM

[quote] This isn’t about masculinity, this is decadence.


by Anonymousreply 18March 19, 2023 3:53 PM

I generally don't like it because stylistically their choices are mostly ugly as hell. You can throw on a women's top or dress to make a statement, sure. But it shows that they (or their stylists) give very little thought to it actually being visually appealing.

These young bitches need to take notes from Lenny Kravitz who's been doing it since the 80s and still manages to make it look sexy and put together.

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by Anonymousreply 19March 19, 2023 5:49 PM

What I hate more about the picture from OP's link is the scowling. As well as making you look douchey, scowling also makes you look much less attractive. Lil Nas X and Paul Mescal look, to me, so much more attractive than Laviscount and Chalamet here.

by Anonymousreply 20March 19, 2023 6:45 PM

R20 agree . It is not fair to compare Paul Mescal to Chalamet. Paul works out and has muscle . I think he will gain more muscles to prepare for Gladiator 2 . Paul really has potentials

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by Anonymousreply 21March 19, 2023 6:53 PM

R15, I’m going to assume you don’t live in nyc. Here, even on the apps (and ironically on profiles mentioning that they’re only into masc dudes - 🤣), you encounter guys like this everywhere. Usually in the 20-30 year old range.

by Anonymousreply 22March 19, 2023 7:21 PM

Chalamet is a poseur and an opportunist. Period.

by Anonymousreply 23March 19, 2023 7:23 PM

That's the real question--what is Chalamet's future in movies?

Not much of one, as I see it.

by Anonymousreply 24March 19, 2023 7:24 PM

Hollywood is just a vestigial joke now - it doesn't reflect or inform real culture anymore if you ask me. These celebs completely sicken the average man.

by Anonymousreply 25March 19, 2023 7:29 PM

That is the apex of masculinity because masculine men wear what the fuck they want. We don't care what you think.

by Anonymousreply 26March 19, 2023 7:32 PM

Give me Chris Meloni and his beefy ass in a kilt. That's a masculine guy in a skirt.

by Anonymousreply 27March 19, 2023 7:37 PM

[quote]I’m going to assume you don’t live in nyc.

I don't. And neither do most young men.

by Anonymousreply 28March 19, 2023 8:02 PM

^ who claimed that they do?

by Anonymousreply 29March 20, 2023 5:36 AM

Nas isn’t masculine by any stretch of the asshole

by Anonymousreply 30March 20, 2023 7:02 AM

Masculine men will always be the what most gay males and straight females desire.

Always. It's hardwired in us.

by Anonymousreply 31March 20, 2023 8:12 AM

For eons, it was women who got all the attention for wearing outlandish gowns on the red carpet. Put a guy in a black tie suit and he's invisible.

This is about media attention and some male celebrities using the red carpet to get it. And guys like OP contribute to it with his "Look at them! LOOK AT THEM!" temper tantrum.

by Anonymousreply 32March 20, 2023 9:01 AM

R11 It appeals to all the Gen Z gender fluid pansexuals. All these little zoomer girls and they/thems go nuts for that shit (not that they're actually having sex with anyone). Olivia Wilde proved she was still young and hot by getting Harry Styles to indicate he was fucking her.

by Anonymousreply 33March 20, 2023 9:36 AM

R21 Ugh. No matter what that boy does he just has such little brother energy.

by Anonymousreply 34March 20, 2023 9:38 AM

What does Josh Hawley think?

by Anonymousreply 35March 20, 2023 9:49 AM


by Anonymousreply 36March 20, 2023 9:53 AM

r31, having seen some of the men DL considers masculine—there have been two such threads in the past couple of months—I'll take people like Timmy, Andrew Garfield, or Ben Aldridge any day of the week. Or the lovely Aaron Tveit.

by Anonymousreply 37March 20, 2023 4:09 PM

R37, for sure there's a contingent of gay men and women who are attracted to more androgynous men like the guys you like. Nothing wrong with that.

But the majority will still want a man who falls somewhere in the spectrum of classically masculine men. From the prettier version (Chris Hemsworth) to the daddy version (Chris Meloni) to the everyman version (vintage Harrison Ford) to the cartoonish version (any bodybuilder or sculpted athlete).

by Anonymousreply 38March 20, 2023 5:20 PM

R38 I wouldn’t consider them androgynous - maybe Timmy, a little, but not the others. What’s your definition of masculine if someone like Aldridge or Tveit is feminine?

by Anonymousreply 39March 20, 2023 8:35 PM

I like the left guy's gay Sith Lord look.

by Anonymousreply 40March 20, 2023 8:53 PM

R36 I cant believe I'd agree so hard with something DarkMingeLord said.

Only the first sentence tho.

by Anonymousreply 41March 20, 2023 9:18 PM

America’s whimsical masculinity

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by Anonymousreply 42March 21, 2023 6:25 AM

And who says Romance is dead?

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by Anonymousreply 43March 21, 2023 6:42 AM

R42 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

by Anonymousreply 44March 23, 2023 2:14 AM

R43 looks like King Hippo from Mike Tyson’s Punchout.

by Anonymousreply 45March 23, 2023 2:17 AM

many posters here have issues...

by Anonymousreply 46March 23, 2023 2:33 AM

R46 = the “model” in r43

by Anonymousreply 47March 23, 2023 2:45 AM

The article makes a good point, that only 6 or 7 years ago you didn't see too much of this. Maybe it will peak. How often is it actually attractive?

by Anonymousreply 48March 23, 2023 2:57 AM

It’ll peak once WWIII happens.

by Anonymousreply 49March 23, 2023 3:05 AM

Yes because we've never gone through fruity phases throughout history.

Like I've said before, pronouns are the current "don't call me Miss or Mrs, it's MZ/Mizz"

Normalcy shall return.

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by Anonymousreply 50March 23, 2023 3:18 AM

Perhaps not. Rudolf Nureyev and Mick Jagger were sporting this in the early 80s

by Anonymousreply 51March 23, 2023 3:19 AM

Once we fall into something worse than the depression, people will have zero tolerance for this shit.

by Anonymousreply 52March 23, 2023 3:22 AM

They look like characters from The Fifth Element.

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by Anonymousreply 53March 23, 2023 3:23 AM

Because this clothing hurts people, R52?

by Anonymousreply 54March 23, 2023 3:24 AM

R54 will be the first casualty.

by Anonymousreply 55March 23, 2023 3:25 AM

R50 Not so much in the USA.

by Anonymousreply 56March 23, 2023 3:57 AM

R48 You did, it was just in different places.

I think the 90’s was the least flamboyant era for men since the 50’s at least. But the shaggy, the hippie, the punk, the new wave, the goth, the emo have always been more flamboyant.

Men in eyeliner and nail polish was a little bit over 10 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 57March 23, 2023 4:42 AM

No, there are definitely more star actors dressing androgynously now, at formerly formal or semi-formal events were a few years ago they wore suits or tuxes. Twenty-something heart throb actors (not rock stars turned actors) weren't wearing the kinds of things Chalamet wears. On the red carpet and at awards shows.

by Anonymousreply 58March 23, 2023 5:13 AM

Lil Nas X is the only one where the outfit looks like an extension of his personality. He seems genuine. The others look like they raided their aunt's wardrobe. No matter how daring the outfit, they ironically look stuffy.

by Anonymousreply 59March 23, 2023 9:09 AM

drop dead paul mascel, u homophobic bully

by Anonymousreply 60March 23, 2023 9:58 AM

Look no further, bitches:

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by Anonymousreply 61March 24, 2023 2:47 AM

Only recently into the blacks after meeting a 6'4 Marine and fitness trainer who punishes my poor hole regularly for all the inappropriate non-PC things that come out of my mouth.

Heaven on earth.

But yeah, I would take Lil Nas X raw (hopefully "X" is for XTRA LARGE & THICK) any time and day.

by Anonymousreply 62March 24, 2023 2:55 AM

r62 = also Shawn Mendes


by Anonymousreply 63March 24, 2023 2:58 AM

Part of the Future: Even gorgeous Jacob Elordi can’t really get away with nail polish on men

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by Anonymousreply 64March 24, 2023 2:58 AM

Nail polish on men took me 2 seconds to get used to.

by Anonymousreply 65March 24, 2023 7:15 AM

You guys are so old timey and refuse to update your sensibilities

by Anonymousreply 66March 24, 2023 12:10 PM

men used to dressed like these, with lots of jewelleries. Do u hv no culture, op

by Anonymousreply 67March 24, 2023 12:36 PM

Posho, your daily assaults on English orthography, grammar and syntax are very jarring.

by Anonymousreply 68March 24, 2023 12:48 PM

Nas isn’t masculine in my book

by Anonymousreply 69March 24, 2023 12:51 PM

We’re all born naked and the rest is drag

by Anonymousreply 70March 24, 2023 12:52 PM

Nas is masculine. Lil Nas X is not

by Anonymousreply 71March 24, 2023 1:03 PM

R68- said the bitch, who is complaining about boys wearing nail polish

by Anonymousreply 72March 24, 2023 1:10 PM

I've never complained about that, R72. In another thread, I mentioned that Jacob Elordi wears nail polish (as seen on this thread) but I didn't complain about it. It seems that your reading skills leave as much to be desired as your writing skills.

by Anonymousreply 73March 24, 2023 1:19 PM

This is just a current trend.

In the 70s' we had hyper masculine types like Sam Elliot, Burt Reynolds and Sean Connery. Eventually people got tired of this and in came Dustin Hoffman and Michael Caine.

It's a pendulum that will always swing back.

by Anonymousreply 74March 24, 2023 2:18 PM

It’s the It’s Been Done Before Troll at r74 🙄

by Anonymousreply 75March 24, 2023 2:26 PM

R73- read ur caption on R64 bfr criticising anyone's writing or reading skills

by Anonymousreply 76March 24, 2023 2:33 PM

I pronounce "posho" as "po' show", i.e., "poor show," as that's what he puts on in each of his posts. Eventually, I tired of his attention-seeking behavior and blocked him.

by Anonymousreply 77March 24, 2023 2:34 PM

Probably wise, R77.

Posho @ R76: looks like you'll also need to familiarise yourself with Ignoredar as well as boning up on your reading comprehension and the rudiments of English orthography, grammar and punctuation, because I didn't write the post you mention. You'll be a very busy boy.

by Anonymousreply 78March 24, 2023 3:25 PM

Thank you r75 for your well thought out contribution. You really made me rethink my opinion.

Unfortunately, history has shown and will show this is true.

Now back to your multiple cats. At least they think you're special.

by Anonymousreply 79March 24, 2023 4:14 PM

R77, R78- is that ur way of bullying me, for calling u out fr supporting the kill the gay bill in the uganda. U should follow ur own advice n learn to create puns, that r not basic as fk. PS, i hv already told u i can not use certain words bcoz of my ocd

by Anonymousreply 80March 24, 2023 9:38 PM

R74 Michael Caine was already in, by the 60s.

by Anonymousreply 81March 24, 2023 11:32 PM

I couldn't give a fuck to be honest. If men want to dress like that, it's their choice.

All the tutting -- especially from gay men -- just comes across as sour grapes. I can't see why else anyone would care what strangers choose to wear.

by Anonymousreply 82March 24, 2023 11:35 PM


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by Anonymousreply 83March 24, 2023 11:43 PM
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by Anonymousreply 84March 24, 2023 11:46 PM
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by Anonymousreply 85March 24, 2023 11:47 PM

R82 Have you ever lived on earth? The way celebs dress has been something people gossip, bitch, and laugh about for decades. They're fair game. And they really don't need you to defend them. There's always someone who says the things you say but no one is ever going to stop celebrity watching or celebrity bashing.

by Anonymousreply 86March 24, 2023 11:51 PM

Never fucked incel eldergays snarking about successful sexy thin young men.

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by Anonymousreply 87March 25, 2023 12:01 AM

If they looked good in those clothes nobody would be snarking on them.

by Anonymousreply 88March 25, 2023 12:05 AM

Once upon a time people tried to wear the most attractive clothes possible, clothes that made them look their most attractive. That's not only a good idea, it makes sense. Rather than dressing up to look clownish or embarrassing. Then we're all supposed to admire it? I don't think so. They're making fools of you.

by Anonymousreply 89March 25, 2023 12:07 AM

That look won't go mainstream.

by Anonymousreply 90March 25, 2023 12:16 AM

R86 I'm not defending celebrities. I know they don't care what people say (good or bad). If they did, they went into the wrong business.

I'm talking more widely. Many of the posts in this thread are dripping with the usual right wing pearl clutching "men are getting more feminised in the West and it's a bad thing!" take. Not only is that crap, but it's tinged in homophobia because it's not so subtly implying there's something wrong with men who aren't the stereotypical "masc" guy.

There's a reason suicide is the leading cause of death in young men. There's a huge amount of pressure put on men to "man up" and not talk about their problems or even cry - ostensibly because it's "weak" and "girly".

That's why I just think "oh fuck off" when I see yet another "aren't men becoming so feminine?" talking point online. So, once again, fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 91March 25, 2023 12:20 AM

[quote]There's a huge amount of pressure put on men to "man up" and not talk about their problems or even cry - ostensibly because it's "weak" and "girly".

So man up and don't act so girly, princess.

by Anonymousreply 92March 25, 2023 12:32 AM

R92 :-)

by Anonymousreply 93March 25, 2023 9:28 AM

r91 I'd have to disagree on a few points... suicide and bashing is more about the homophobia and isolation than perceived effeminacy aka the theory that all homophobia is actually just misogyny. It includes the masculine element as well.. in which for those of us that are masculine are told we're toxic and self hating, possessing internalized homophobia, and have no place in the community (by some vocal and other aggressive members) if we aren't a caricature of our sexuality. . . the same way other forms of collectivism, tribalism, plays out for other communities (some which say we're not really ____ if we're gay) that suggest we can only express ourselves in one way, lest we be deemed inauthentic and shunned... well, at best, if not hunted down by the lynch mob that forms.

by Anonymousreply 94March 26, 2023 9:31 AM

[quote] Once upon a time people tried to wear the most attractive clothes possible, clothes that made them look their most attractive.

Times have changed. Stunning and brave is the new attractive.

by Anonymousreply 95March 26, 2023 9:41 AM

“Stunning and brave” strikes me as so disingenuous. Do these guys genuinely feel they look good or are they basically virtue signalling because transvestism is suddenly, inexplicably, the in thing? (Although I suppose that’s not without precedent; recalling Bowie and 70’s glam rock).

They look like utter fools, to be honest. It won’t age well.

by Anonymousreply 96March 26, 2023 9:55 AM

[quote] They look like utter fools, to be honest. It won’t age well.

That is your old, outdated opinion. And just like previous old generations whining about youth culture, you will die with the knowledge that the world goes to shit, because of those damn boys wearing girly clothes now.

by Anonymousreply 97March 26, 2023 10:04 AM

R94 Nah, simply being masculine isn't enough to be told you're self-hating. I'm not effeminate but I've never been accused of having internalised homophobia. I've only seen that levelled at gay men who look down on feminine gay men - their words and actions give them away, not how they look or dress.

Some can't seem to accept that many gay men are naturally camp. They act as though such men are just attention seeking. I've got a childhood friend who was bullied at school for being fem. I'm pretty sure he'd have stopped it if he could.

by Anonymousreply 98March 26, 2023 11:38 AM

The whole masculine vs. feminine men becomes an issue when the so-called masculine gays whine that the femme gays devalue and threaten THEIR gay brand, like these masculine Gays own the word gay and the Gay Community itself.

The problem is that these masculine guys try to take over and rule a group that is built on embracing diversity and civil rights liberties and has expanded to even greater diversity (LGBTQ+). If you want some masculine gay group, start one and declare and make sure to let everybody know who you don't want in your group, like you're being a mean Heather in high school making sure everybody knows who isn't invited. That's typical masculine behavior, right? Hey, here's an idea: Why don't you call yourself PROUD BOYS?

by Anonymousreply 99March 26, 2023 12:28 PM

Act like a man!

by Anonymousreply 100March 26, 2023 12:32 PM

men's fashion has been limited fr far too long, these boys r atleast trying something new, most of their outfits r basic as fuck but they r miles more exciting than the men's penguin march in every red carpets

by Anonymousreply 101March 26, 2023 12:38 PM

Live and let live. They’re living rent free in your head

by Anonymousreply 102March 26, 2023 1:09 PM

r98 because your experience is all that matters, only you know the truth and no other gay has issues with the scene.... so, no, it couldn't possibly be that at all.

Or are you just a frau?

Lots of men and women have trouble meshing with gay/lesbian scene and not because of internalized homophobia but because they're treated like outsiders, suspect... this comes in a variety of forms. It's the same kind of bullshit when you're working in a field dominated by the opposite sex, which then only feels secure when they find out you're gay but then expect you to be a YAAAAAAS Kween. And you face the onslaught of microaggressions thereafter... it happens even more so, when that field is dominated by a race outside your own, or not to bash white people, but truth to be told when they're mostly white. Would you like to get into how that aspect, too, parlays into hookups, the dating scene and yeah, sometimes just the social.

In a lot of other cultures, this anti-masc is even more amplified. It's viewed as a betrayal by the straights that want to believe they should be able to identify you by gay face, by your walk, your talk, your attitude and then to the gays that play into that shit because maybe they're the ones with internalized homophobia and feel this performative jester role that makes the breeders more comfortable because it's not as complicated for them to register to view you as valid.. thus you embrace the hostile attitude and while you maybe don't view us as a threat, you worry subconsciously about the straights that grant you a narrow space to exist. . . far less confrontational to their paranoid sensibilities.

There's that nastiness in the lesbian community against fems as there is in the gay community against masc. We call it culture but it often involves trying to take those "heteronormative" gendered stereotype people down a peg... down a peg because what? you're that insecure about your own shit that you can't even imagine those on the other side face issues too.

Right, maybe not.

Not in your experience.. Not you. It's only those guys that must have done something wrong, violated some code. They have all the privilege, str8 passing privilege, while the poor little nancy boys have none.

by Anonymousreply 103March 26, 2023 4:55 PM

^ every community has its social hierarchies.

Which is why so many of us abandon it as we get older... pride, the scene, whatever... just being plugged into the drama.

So, tell me, you ever have to prove you're gay?

It's not as easy as sucking cock. . especially where government gets involved.

There's so many layers to this I can't ever do it justice.

I'm just a reactionary tard on a largely troll site.

by Anonymousreply 104March 26, 2023 5:01 PM

R103 We all speak from our own experience and perspective. It's wrong when I do it, but OK when you do?

If you say so, mate.

by Anonymousreply 105March 26, 2023 5:02 PM

[quote]“Stunning and brave” strikes me as so disingenuous. Do these guys genuinely feel they look good or are they basically virtue signalling because transvestism is suddenly, inexplicably, the in thing? (Although I suppose that’s not without precedent; recalling Bowie and 70’s glam rock). They look like utter fools, to be honest. It won’t age well.

R96 I think Bowie was genuine. Some people have a good detector for what's sincere and genuine and some lack it. You have it. First of all, what Bowie did was certainly braver than what some of these guys are doing now, because now, anything goes and nobody is going to say they're even going against the grain. But I don't think Bowie gave a shit about being brave. He just knew what looked good, for him. No, what Chalamet and some of these others are doing won't age well, because they're just putting on costumes. And they will look stupid in a short time. It's not based on an inner motivation. Not genuine.

[quote]That is your old, outdated opinion. And just like previous old generations whining about youth culture, you will die with the knowledge that the world goes to shit, because of those damn boys wearing girly clothes now.

R97 One thing older people can do is remember how they thought a lot of things were the height of fashion and then they look back at old pictures or old catalogs and realize how awful a lot of it looked. It's called "experience" and you don't have it. So you should shut up until to get some.

by Anonymousreply 106March 26, 2023 5:07 PM

[quote] - [R97] One thing older people can do is remember how they thought a lot of things were the height of fashion and then they look back at old pictures or old catalogs and realize how awful a lot of it looked. It's called "experience" and you don't have it. So you should shut up until to get some.

Bitch, please. When you were young, you dismissed the old folk and rejected their (fashion) values. And now here you are with your "get off my lawn!" attitude becoming what you despised in your youth most. You are not some sage wizard, you are grumpy old cunt telling kids to sit down and listen to you, of all people.

by Anonymousreply 107March 26, 2023 7:08 PM

Sorry, you are a grumpy old cunt ...

by Anonymousreply 108March 26, 2023 7:09 PM

These aren’t even girly clothes, they are just outrageous celebrity influencer costumes. Do real women dress this way? No.

by Anonymousreply 109March 26, 2023 7:51 PM

Well maybe the outfit on the left.

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by Anonymousreply 111April 2, 2023 7:17 PM

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by Anonymousreply 113April 2, 2023 7:55 PM

They're all tops.

by Anonymousreply 114April 2, 2023 8:29 PM

This is the present of masculinity.

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by Anonymousreply 115April 3, 2023 12:18 PM

I’m on the fence about this one. There are precedents for males wearing crop tops. Even men wearing makeup. However, is most of those cases it was to gender bend or make a political statement.

In most these cases it was an example of male peacocking to attract the opposite sex. I don’t that a Fulani goat herder is wearing makeup to bring down the patriarchy or for some queer nonsense.

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by Anonymousreply 117May 14, 2023 1:53 PM

[quote] Many of the posts in this thread are dripping with the usual right wing pearl clutching "men are getting more feminised in the West and it's a bad thing!" take. Not only is that crap...

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by Anonymousreply 118May 15, 2023 3:07 AM

Future of Masculiniti, Puerto Rico version: Bad Bunny

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by Anonymousreply 119May 15, 2023 7:23 AM

No guy can ever look hot in a woman’s dress. It only ever looks silly. No matter how much they try to force trans aesthetic on us.

by Anonymousreply 120May 15, 2023 10:12 AM

r3 Janelle Monáe

by Anonymousreply 121May 15, 2023 1:22 PM

R121: Lolz

by Anonymousreply 122May 15, 2023 1:31 PM

We're inching closer and closer to the Hunger Games capital being fashion rather than costumes...

by Anonymousreply 123May 15, 2023 1:33 PM

R11 They’re appealing to girls. Look at who girls liked guys from the 60s - 80s and the emo scene in the 2000s - girls like flamboyant men who cross dress and look feminine.

by Anonymousreply 124May 15, 2023 4:00 PM

Bad Bunny: attention whore

Harry Styles, Timothee Chalamet: attention whores

They're all attention whores

by Anonymousreply 125May 15, 2023 11:47 PM

I love Bad Bunny

by Anonymousreply 126May 16, 2023 12:31 AM

r65 It only took me a few minutes to embrace the idea of modern men wearing pink trousers after loving seeing the lead singer from Slovenian band Joker out wearing pink trousers at Eurovision. To me it makes them colourful, interesting but not unmasculine.

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by Anonymousreply 127May 16, 2023 5:43 PM

How about the Finnish dude Käärijä who just won second place in Eurovision?

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by Anonymousreply 128May 16, 2023 5:57 PM

Rather this than the toxic masculinity of DJT and his ilk.

In truth, I am past all the style statements of this or any other generation.

I just want to be comfortable and match my eye color with my shirt once in a while.

by Anonymousreply 129May 16, 2023 6:01 PM

R127: they placed 21st

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by Anonymousreply 130May 16, 2023 6:07 PM

Italy looks FABULOUS too

Marco came in 4th

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by Anonymousreply 131May 16, 2023 6:11 PM

The guys at Eurovision seem like embodiment of the kind of masculinity being discussed on this thread

by Anonymousreply 132May 16, 2023 6:13 PM

r129 Very nice too! Eurovision is awash with interesting clothes choices! r130 I'm aware but I don't think the pink trousers hindered them in anyway!

by Anonymousreply 133May 16, 2023 6:15 PM

r131 I like the idea of eurovision being the future!!😁😉

by Anonymousreply 134May 16, 2023 6:19 PM

[quote]Now it's, "Is he gay or just liberal?" It's astonishing how easy it is to pick out a liberal man vs. a conservative man these days simply by just looking at him.

Just like we can tell you’re a right wing troll simply by reading your BS, right R8? No one has ever uttered that ridiculous phrase and conservative men aren’t known for being masculine.

by Anonymousreply 135May 16, 2023 8:12 PM
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