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Does Winona Ryder still have a reputation for being intelligent and thoughtful?

Back in the 90s, she was promoted as a moody bookworm with serious feelings. However, she's always seemed a bit dim to me. But I don't she's as crazy as people claim. She seems nice enough.

by Anonymousreply 61May 2, 2023 2:38 AM

CORRECTION: I don't think she's as crazy as people claim.

by Anonymousreply 1March 18, 2023 10:23 PM

She looks like an unhinged cunt

by Anonymousreply 2March 18, 2023 10:24 PM

I mean, you don't actually know her as a person, so how can you say whether she's dim or sharp, crazy or nice, or some combination of all four?

by Anonymousreply 3March 18, 2023 10:26 PM

r3 Based on what I've watched/read in interviews. People do have opinions on celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 4March 18, 2023 10:27 PM

I remember when the moody bookworm turned junkie shoplifter.

by Anonymousreply 5March 18, 2023 10:29 PM

She seems very intelligent and weird, which is a good combo.

by Anonymousreply 6March 18, 2023 10:29 PM

R4 I'm sure they do. It's misguided and pathetic, when you stop to think about it.

We don't know these people at all. We've never met them. We have no right to judge their personality or life, or impose our values on them.

by Anonymousreply 7March 18, 2023 10:41 PM

She seems introverted and mentally troubled, which isn't a bad thing. I think her fame on top of the pills from Dr. Feelgood made her go totally nuts for a few years, but she seems fine now.

by Anonymousreply 8March 18, 2023 10:42 PM

No you don't R5, because she was always a shoplifter. You remember when she got caught!

by Anonymousreply 9March 18, 2023 10:45 PM

I always assumed she was leaning hard into her intellectual side because of the big tits.

She seems to have dropped that persona once she got older and then adopted it again after her buy none, get all free escapades.

by Anonymousreply 10March 18, 2023 10:45 PM

FYI…. Op is the Kate Jackson troll

by Anonymousreply 11March 18, 2023 10:57 PM

Sanpaku eyes

by Anonymousreply 12March 19, 2023 1:58 AM

I mean she was raised by artsy hippies. Her having big tits doesn’t really preclude intellectualism….

by Anonymousreply 13March 19, 2023 2:01 AM

Here's the Noni Ryder blind item megalist (not from CDaN, from Cosmo and this was from years ago).

Go to post 578 and you'll learn a lot about Noni Ryder. I don't know if this contains all of them but you'll get enough to get a feel for what she's actually like. It's not the kind of crazy that's a phase or situational, this is full-on personality disorder and that shit never actually goes away. Enjoy!

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by Anonymousreply 14March 19, 2023 2:13 AM

I can think of few public figures who have paid a bigger price than she has for a quarter-century old transgression.

Robert Downey Jr. broke into a stranger’s home and hid in a bedroom while strung out. No one cares anymore (not after making billions for Marvel).

It’s unfortunate she hasn’t received the same level of opportunity and forgiveness.

by Anonymousreply 15March 19, 2023 2:22 AM

R14 578 just says "Come back Winona!".

Do you mean reply 1 with all the blind items?

by Anonymousreply 16March 19, 2023 2:30 AM

But it wasn't just about her stealing, R15, it was about her being a fucking asshole that people didn't want to work with anyway.

People LIKED RDJ, they always liked him. He also always showed up for work although not always in the greatest shape. They still liked him and he was pleasant and funny and a nice person most of the time. Winona was deeply unpleasant and routinely bullied people at work. She didn't have the goodwill RDJ had amassed.

I've always liked her work and I don't care if she steals shit from Saks. I hate her other behavior and I have a zero tolerance policy for personality disorders. Zero.

by Anonymousreply 17March 19, 2023 2:31 AM

I could have forgiven her a lot if she had even one drop of talent.

She doesn't.

by Anonymousreply 18March 19, 2023 2:32 AM

I guess so, R16, thanks.

I must have read the numbers incorrectly somehow.

by Anonymousreply 19March 19, 2023 2:32 AM

Loss Prevention watches her a lot more carefully whenever she goes into a store

by Anonymousreply 20March 19, 2023 2:33 AM

Those blind items feel bizarrely false and planted. Didn’t they all come out at once when she got arrested? The Girl, Interrupted one doesn’t make sense, she and Brittany Murphy became best friends immediately after filming ended, it’s more likely Angelina was the one who made that scene (if it happened, which I seriously doubt…)

by Anonymousreply 21March 19, 2023 2:36 AM

She wasn't very articulate back in the 90s, took forever to get to the point. Here she is with Depp talking about HIV.

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by Anonymousreply 22March 19, 2023 2:37 AM

R17 You do know a personality disorder is a mental illness that people can’t turn on/off like a switch?

by Anonymousreply 23March 19, 2023 2:38 AM

R11 Ok, why would we care?

by Anonymousreply 24March 19, 2023 2:38 AM

Yes, R23, I am aware that these dangerous and untrustworthy fucking psychos are unable to control their mental illnesses. That's one of the reasons why it makes such good sense to never have a fucking thing to do with them.

A zero tolerance policy is just that - zero tolerance. I won't have them around me. They're not welcome in my house. If I'm at someone else's house and an NPD or BPD shows up, I make my excuses and get out of there as soon as possible. Others can hang around with them all they want. I don't want to hear their lying bullshit, I don't want to listen to their poor-me whining or grandiose fantasy life. They lie as easily as breathing and they are not to be trusted.

Other people can put up with their insanity if they want to, I won't do it. End of.

by Anonymousreply 25March 19, 2023 3:11 AM

R25 When you say BPD, are you referring to bipolar or borderline?

What's your opinion on avoidant personality disorder?

by Anonymousreply 26March 19, 2023 3:19 AM

R25 HAS STATED HER BOUNDARIES.

by Anonymousreply 27March 19, 2023 3:31 AM

Stealing is one of the things sociopaths do. When I heard that story I just fig she’s a sociopath. R13 Jayne Mansfield had a high IQ.

by Anonymousreply 28March 19, 2023 3:35 AM

BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder to me but it can be used for Bipolar Disorders and I don't much want them around me either, although at least they respond well to medication.

Avoidant PD's are a pain in the fucking ass. I avoid them too but I don't know any or at least I'm not aware that I know any. I don't want to deal with any of it. I've dealt with it in the past more than once and I haven't got the time, the patience or the interest to ever deal with these psychos again. I'm not required to deal with people's mentally ill shit and I simply won't do it.

You bet your fucking ass I have stated my boundaries. I'm getting rid of the psychos NOW so I won't have to deal with all their craziness and get rid of them THEN.

by Anonymousreply 29March 19, 2023 3:54 AM

‘88-‘94

Beetlejuice

Heathers

Edward Scissorhands

Reality Bites

Amazing

by Anonymousreply 30March 19, 2023 4:16 AM

Her 90’s filmography is iconic, and she deserved her Oscar nominations. But the bitch is barely lucid and it’s no coincidence she doesn’t do press events anymore.

by Anonymousreply 31March 19, 2023 4:45 AM

I enjoy her in movies but hasn’t she been a drug addict for awhile?

by Anonymousreply 32March 19, 2023 5:01 AM

Yes she has been a drug addict for a while, R32. She was definitely using when she was with Johnny Depp. She started dating him when she was 17 (officially not until she turned 18) and that was in 1989.

More than 30 years of drug abuse is a long time.

by Anonymousreply 33March 19, 2023 5:30 AM

It doesn’t help matters when your godfather is Timothy Leary!

by Anonymousreply 34March 19, 2023 7:36 AM

R33 So they were a co-dependent druggie couple? It's easy to overlook that when the couple is attractive. What kind of drugs did they do together? Is he the one who introduced her to drugs?

by Anonymousreply 35March 19, 2023 1:46 PM

Not likable.

by Anonymousreply 36March 19, 2023 4:07 PM

I never considered her thoughtful or intelligent although I like her

by Anonymousreply 37March 19, 2023 6:21 PM

What's the deal with the weird faces she makes? Even in court for shoplifting, she was chewing scenery with her body language and facial expressions.

by Anonymousreply 38March 19, 2023 9:46 PM

Uma Thurman’s godfather is Timothy Leary.

by Anonymousreply 39March 19, 2023 10:04 PM

Well, I suppose one person can have more than one godchild, because he was Winona Ryder’s godfather as well.

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by Anonymousreply 40March 19, 2023 10:08 PM

R40 So, is she kind of a nepo baby too?

by Anonymousreply 41March 20, 2023 12:23 AM

She has a reputation as a thieving cunt.

by Anonymousreply 42March 20, 2023 12:25 AM

I always liked that the book of 'Girl, Interrupted' meant so much to her and she was passionate about making it into a film. The movie isn't very good, but the book was excellent and I think it speaks well of her that she recognized the quality of the source material and would even read her favorite passages while promoting the film on talk shows.

by Anonymousreply 43March 20, 2023 1:32 AM

That story about Paltrow stealing the script for "Shakespeare in Love" out of Winona's apartment is silly. If the producers wanted Winona, they would have found a way to contact her.

by Anonymousreply 44March 20, 2023 1:26 PM

When did she ever present as intelligent & thoughtful??

by Anonymousreply 45March 20, 2023 1:49 PM

R45 Back when she was with Depp, the media painted them as a beat-poet couple who loved classic literature.

by Anonymousreply 46March 20, 2023 1:50 PM

Just because the media says so, doesn't mean everyone buys into the bucket of bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 47March 20, 2023 1:55 PM

R47 Well, what's your opinion of her alone, and with Depp as a couple?

by Anonymousreply 48March 20, 2023 2:04 PM

With dep as a couple weren’t they drug addicts?

by Anonymousreply 49March 20, 2023 7:04 PM

Only a true cunt would hold that shoplifting charge against her. I've always enjoyed her work.

by Anonymousreply 50March 21, 2023 1:15 AM

I do like her but not because of her “intelligence”

by Anonymousreply 51March 21, 2023 3:55 AM

Pictures of Depp speak for themselves.

They are both creations of their PR machines. Fantastic Plastic. Their drug use & abuse busted them out of those crafted images at times & we got & get to see who they really are. Not pretty, but oh so laughable. Much comic value in those two, as individuals and as a couple.

by Anonymousreply 52March 21, 2023 2:50 PM

R52 So they weren't seen as a classy couple? How much of their image/images was a PR creation?

by Anonymousreply 53March 21, 2023 5:48 PM

She's a bookworm, but I don't think she ever went to college.

by Anonymousreply 54March 21, 2023 5:58 PM

Thee was a fascinating Winona thread on DL a few years ago that basically said Winona has been through hell and back (most of which the public doesn't even know about), and tptb in Hollywood see to it that Noni and her fragile, eternally delicate psyche is treated with kid gloves at all times.

I thought she was perfectly cast as the washed up prima ballerina in Black Swan.

by Anonymousreply 55March 21, 2023 9:00 PM

Celebrities reading books is an old trope for reporters and publicists alike. The vast majority are box-of-hair dumb, the few who aren't don't advertise it.

by Anonymousreply 56March 21, 2023 10:11 PM

I never thought she was either of those things .

by Anonymousreply 57March 21, 2023 10:20 PM

R55 To hell and back? What happened to her?

by Anonymousreply 58March 21, 2023 11:14 PM

beetlejuice 2 is happening

by Anonymousreply 59May 2, 2023 12:57 AM

Beetlejuice is the only Tim burin movie I like I might watch a part 2

by Anonymousreply 60May 2, 2023 2:35 AM

I’ve heard such shitty things about her honestly. I don’t know what she’s like these days, but during her heyday she was just awful. And so fucking full of herself. She really believed her own hype.

by Anonymousreply 61May 2, 2023 2:38 AM
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