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The most mysterious murders of all time

Some of the cases on this list are new to me and haven't been discussed ad nauseam on the Datalounge:

1) The Hinterkaifeck Murders

2) The Axeman of New Orleans

3) Austin Yogurt Shop Murders

4) Murder of the Dardeen family

5) The Grimes sisters

6) The Villisca Axe Murders

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by Anonymousreply 79March 22, 2023 12:43 PM

Nothing tops Jack the Ripper and the Whitechapel Murders, with the simultaneous Torso killings, in which a cut-up body was deposited even in the construction of the new Scotland Yard building.

by Anonymousreply 1March 18, 2023 2:31 AM

OP, I’m utterly fascinated by Villisca and Hinterkaifeck. Both are creepy, horrific, and confusing.

by Anonymousreply 2March 18, 2023 2:47 AM

DNA has taken all of the fun out of unsolved murders, we used to have a lot when I was young.

Now they are prosecuting 80+ year old people for crimes that happened before I was born.

by Anonymousreply 3March 18, 2023 2:57 AM

Most murders do not involve DNA though

by Anonymousreply 4March 18, 2023 3:00 AM

The Cleveland Torso Murderer

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by Anonymousreply 5March 18, 2023 3:02 AM

Vince Foster

by Anonymousreply 6March 18, 2023 3:10 AM

Freeper troll at r6

by Anonymousreply 7March 18, 2023 3:15 AM

Jon Benet is my #1

by Anonymousreply 8March 18, 2023 3:15 AM

R4 They seem to here in the UK, drive by shootings are rare. Most killers want to get their rocks off, but even a hair can suffice as proof.

by Anonymousreply 9March 18, 2023 3:20 AM

Don't point at me!

by Anonymousreply 10March 18, 2023 3:22 AM

r9, shootings (whether drive by or not) are way more common in the US. Something like 70-75% of homicides are committed with a firearm here

by Anonymousreply 11March 18, 2023 3:22 AM

O n the morning of Friday, December 15, 2017, Barry Sherman, multi-billionaire founder of Canadian pharmaceutical company Apotex and well-known philanthropist, was discovered in the basement of his 12,000-square-foot home in Toronto, in a seated position, legs outstretched, the right leg crossed neatly over the left, his back to the lap pool. He was wearing his glasses, perched undisturbed on his nose. His bomber-style jacket was pulled slightly off his shoulders and down, which held his arms at his sides. Beside him, Honey, his wife of forty-seven years, known as the “queen” of Toronto’s Jewish community, was in a similar position, the light coat she wore also pulled off her shoulders, holding her hands at her sides. They were both VSA, paramedic and police code for “vital signs absent.” A quick estimate by the paramedics suggested the couple had been dead for at least a day if not more.

This case is very creepy because of how their bodies were posed by the indoor pool. The killer/killers also spent a lot of time in the house after he killed them.

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by Anonymousreply 12March 18, 2023 3:22 AM

^I still believe there was definitely cop involvement in the Sherman murders.

by Anonymousreply 13March 18, 2023 3:26 AM

This is a lesser-known case that happened in Portland, OR, exactly one year to the day before the Villisca, Iowa axe murders. A weird coincidence for sure. The Lava Lake Murders (which also occurred in Oregon) are very creepy, as are the Keddie Cabin murders in California—pure nightmare fuel.

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by Anonymousreply 14March 18, 2023 3:27 AM

Also, this case. I saw a segment about it on a true crime documentary series a few years ago and found it extremely bizarre. An elderly couple in Georgia were murdered in their home; the husband's headless body was found in the garage, and the wife's body was discovered sunken in the nearby lake with cinder blocks. The husband's head has never been found.

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by Anonymousreply 15March 18, 2023 3:30 AM

R13- Would love to know your thoughts on this case.

by Anonymousreply 16March 18, 2023 3:35 AM

The Springfield three. Just bizarre. Three women just vanish in the middle of the night leaving all their belongings behind.

Also,, Asha Degree,. I want to see this case solved.

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by Anonymousreply 17March 18, 2023 3:54 AM

[quote]The Springfield three.

Already discussed ad nauseam on the Datalounge. What are you going to bring next, the Dyatlov pass case?

by Anonymousreply 18March 18, 2023 3:57 AM

I just finished a book about the New Orleans Axeman. It was good.

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by Anonymousreply 19March 18, 2023 4:28 AM

The Servant Girl Annihilator, a serial killer in 1880s Austin, TX

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by Anonymousreply 20March 18, 2023 4:30 AM

Bible John : Bible John is an unidentified serial killer who is believed to have murdered three young women between 1968 and 1969 in Glasgow, Scotland.

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by Anonymousreply 21March 18, 2023 4:33 AM

The Servant Girl Annihilator is so morbidly hilarious just because of the name (didn't Mark Twain invent it?).

by Anonymousreply 22March 18, 2023 4:41 AM

^^^Sorry, it was O. Henry, not Twain.

by Anonymousreply 23March 18, 2023 4:43 AM

Another especially nightmarish one that occurred in Oregon in the '70s. Ominous and especially horrific given that two of the victims were children, one an infant. Ann Rule wrote about it in one of her books. The Pacific Northwest seems to be a hotbed for murder.

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by Anonymousreply 24March 18, 2023 4:44 AM

It doesn't take Agatha Christie to work out that this one is no mystery: they ALL either took part or formed a cheerleading squad as it happened. The town population was only 342.

[quote]The vigilante murder of Ken McElroy - Ken McElroy was known as "the town bully” in Skidmore, Missouri, where he was charged with many crimes (sexual assault, arson, assault, burglary, attempted murder, etc.) but never convicted. He was shot multiple times in broad daylight on the town's main street with as many as 60 witnesses, yet no one called an ambulance, confessed, or implicated anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 25March 18, 2023 4:59 AM

R25- I read about book about that case. I read the entire book in one night because I couldn't put it down. They have never spoken one word about who shot Ken. After his much welcomed death the house that his wife and children were living in mysteriously burned to the ground.

by Anonymousreply 26March 18, 2023 5:10 AM

Skidmore is a creepy little town. It's also where Branson Perry disappeared and Bobbie Jo Stinnett was murdered.

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by Anonymousreply 27March 18, 2023 5:16 AM

27 posts and no one mentioned me yet?

by Anonymousreply 28March 18, 2023 5:18 AM

Honest, I was only trying to help.

You do believe me, don't you ?

by Anonymousreply 29March 18, 2023 5:21 AM

Read OP's original article, R28.

by Anonymousreply 30March 18, 2023 5:26 AM

I'll give you a basket full of hugs! ☠️

by Anonymousreply 31March 18, 2023 5:26 AM

JonBenet, probably. Most of the detectives involved do not think her parents committed it.

by Anonymousreply 32March 18, 2023 5:30 AM

The Watcher House is terrifying.

by Anonymousreply 33March 18, 2023 5:32 AM

💋 And I'll give you a basket full of kisses, r31.

by Anonymousreply 34March 18, 2023 5:41 AM


by Anonymousreply 35March 18, 2023 5:42 AM

R33 that was a hoax based on buyer’s regret. They bought too much house and needed out of the loan.

by Anonymousreply 36March 18, 2023 6:02 AM

Was anyone actually killed in the Watcher case?

by Anonymousreply 37March 18, 2023 6:38 AM

R15 is one that creeps me out. I listened to a podcast about it years ago. They said the Police Chief handling the case has publicly stated he knows who did it but needs more evidence to make an arrest.

by Anonymousreply 38March 18, 2023 6:41 AM

Jack the Ripper is fascinating, not just due to the crimes but also because of everything going on in the area at the time, plus society at large. I have a great book just called The Facts which goes into so much of this stuff, it was really interesting.

Zodiac is similarly interesting due to the history of the time.

by Anonymousreply 39March 18, 2023 6:52 AM

I think Muriel should close this thread immediately.

by Anonymousreply 40March 18, 2023 9:04 AM

The Zodiac owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 41March 18, 2023 9:09 AM

The disappearance of Mary Shotwell Little...

and the murder of the woman, who took her job and sat at her desk, about a year later - Diane Sheilds.

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by Anonymousreply 42March 18, 2023 10:32 AM

The murder of Diane Shields and the connection to Mary Shotwell Little's disappearance...

and the refusal of law enforcement to make any connection between the two crimes

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by Anonymousreply 43March 18, 2023 10:34 AM

Hinterkaifeck is DL catnip. The most infamous murder mystery in German history.

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by Anonymousreply 44March 20, 2023 2:20 AM

Robert Wone

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by Anonymousreply 45March 20, 2023 2:43 AM

The brutal murders of my dear wife and son.

by Anonymousreply 46March 20, 2023 2:49 AM

My top three are Maura Murray, the Springfield Three and Austin Yogurt Shop

by Anonymousreply 47March 20, 2023 2:50 AM

R2- I'm not really into true crime at all, yet those two cases really are unusually disturbing.

by Anonymousreply 48March 20, 2023 3:16 AM

The 1978 burger chef murders in Indiana and the complete bungling of the investigation.

by Anonymousreply 49March 20, 2023 4:37 AM

Don't forget about the Dyatlov murders.

by Anonymousreply 50March 20, 2023 5:12 AM

The truly mysterious ones are those we haven’t found out about.

by Anonymousreply 51March 20, 2023 5:20 AM

Tracy Jo Shine!!!

by Anonymousreply 52March 20, 2023 7:03 AM

My fucking career.

My goddam fucking career.

by Anonymousreply 53March 20, 2023 8:33 AM

Oh shut up you little homosexual boy r53 !

by Anonymousreply 54March 20, 2023 8:39 AM

[quote] Already discussed ad nauseam on the Datalounge.

People who write “the Datalounge” get an automatic kick in THE cunt.

by Anonymousreply 55March 20, 2023 12:31 PM


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by Anonymousreply 56March 20, 2023 12:54 PM

True, R55. If the "L" in "DataLounge" isn't capitalized, the word is unrecognizable.

by Anonymousreply 57March 20, 2023 2:23 PM

[quote]💋 And I'll give you a basket full of kisses, [R31].

Anything but a basket of deplorables.

by Anonymousreply 58March 20, 2023 3:06 PM


Besides the fact that neither have been solved, there is evidence that the murderers in each crime stayed in the home before and (Hinterkaifeck) after the murders.

That’s creepy.

by Anonymousreply 59March 20, 2023 10:25 PM

Read about Tracy Jo Shine. It’ll freak your shit.

by Anonymousreply 60March 20, 2023 10:35 PM

The Dardeen family murders really creep me out. Someone decides to go to a trailer in rural Illinois and just butcher the entire family. The killer then melts away into the night. I think he's still out there. Tommy Lynn Sells confessed to the murders but he was a pathological liar. The authorities pretended to belive him because they're morally bankrupt and wanted to close the case. Do any older DLers remember seeing this massacre in the news?

by Anonymousreply 61March 20, 2023 10:43 PM

The Jeffrey Epstein one.

by Anonymousreply 62March 20, 2023 10:46 PM

The Dardeens put their trailer up for sale and wanted to move because crime had risen in that area. Before they could leave someone snuck in and beat the little boy and his mother to death with a baseball bat. Ruby Dardeen was almost full term and during the attack gave birth to a baby girl who was also killed. Keith Dardeen was found days later in a field where he had been shot and castrated.

by Anonymousreply 63March 20, 2023 10:51 PM

Jodi Huisentruit, news anchor who was kidnapped and never seen again.

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by Anonymousreply 64March 22, 2023 12:51 AM

An eaten baby is an unfound baby.

by Anonymousreply 65March 22, 2023 1:29 AM

The Miyazawa family murders in Tokyo in 2000. An entire family, parents and two children, slaughtered by a home intruder. Even though there's a good amount of evidence (including the killer's DNA) they still have no clue who's done it. It was covered on several podcasts but there's a relatively recent one, "Faceless", that goes deeper into the details and follows the evidence, even to the Andrews AFB in California, since some of the sand found among the evidence came from there (!)

by Anonymousreply 66March 22, 2023 2:15 AM

Snowtown murders

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by Anonymousreply 67March 22, 2023 6:16 AM

R66 This is the one where the murderer left his poop in the toilet, right?

by Anonymousreply 68March 22, 2023 7:08 AM

R64 Has to be one of the great mysteries of Iowa. I think she had dirt on someone and they weren’t having it. Just my opinion. Just a crazy story when you think about it: a twenty something TV news anchor in a town of 30k going missing and never seen again. It makes absolutely no sense why this hasn’t been solved. As an Iowan, I’ll say I think someone in Mason knows what happened and is drowning themselves in Balck Velvet trying to forget it.

by Anonymousreply 69March 22, 2023 7:15 AM

Her friend John Vancise was a suspect. Last I heard he had dementia so he's not talking.

by Anonymousreply 70March 22, 2023 7:21 AM

Yeah, that was bizarre, R68. Why in the world wouldn't he flush the toilet? Maybe it was a way of showing contempt for the victims or maybe he wasn't in his right mind.

by Anonymousreply 71March 22, 2023 7:54 AM

Aaron Hernandez

by Anonymousreply 72March 22, 2023 8:35 AM

The Bricca family murders 1966 Cincinnati. Father, mother and 4 year old daughter viciously stabbed in a quiet, house upon house subdivision on rainy Sunday night. The father's wallet was taken and never found. The murderer rumored to be the beautiful young mother's lover, a local pet vet. No one was ever charged. The other main suspect a popular local children's tv show host who rode a loud motorcycle.

by Anonymousreply 73March 22, 2023 8:43 AM

Nothing mysterious about R67. Every detail is known.

by Anonymousreply 74March 22, 2023 9:14 AM

The unsolved grisly Bricca family murders from 1966. It’s been possibly linked to a serial killer, organised crime, an affair gone wrong, and DL-fave Satanism.

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by Anonymousreply 75March 22, 2023 9:47 AM

R73 - missed your post, agreed, it’s an interesting and juicy unsolved case. I’m surprised it hasn’t received more attention over the years.

by Anonymousreply 76March 22, 2023 9:51 AM

R76 it happened a few blocks from where I grew up in Cincy. They went to the same church, St. Al's. The wife was raped, the husband was bound and gagged, and the little girl apparently tried to hide under her bed from the killer, who found her and speared her. The angle with the child's show host was that had he left her alive, she would have known him. The 2 family dogs who barked at the simplest knock on the door, were apparently drugged (The theory about the Vet who had the drugs to do that). A local author, J.T. Townsend wrote the comprehensive book about it, but obviously he had to stop short of naming the likely killer. The main suspect lawyered up, and shut up, after initial questioning without an attorney.

by Anonymousreply 77March 22, 2023 12:10 PM

The answer to most of these is negroes. That is why they remain "unsolved". Another case of marxists not being able go handle reality.

by Anonymousreply 78March 22, 2023 12:15 PM

R77 small world, I also grew up in Green Township and went to a nearby parish to yours. What a surprize, Catholics on the West Side, lol. We even took our dog to that evil vet clinic on Glenway, and I wonder If the vet was still there at that time? I didn’t know about the murders until I was much older though, so it’s an interesting lens for me to see that area in a different light. I just looked up the house on Zillow. They sale history shows slight reductions from the listing prices. Probably the murder house discount. It’s a cute 1950’s house at an affordable price. ;-) I’ll have to read that book.

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