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Appalling Florida Sex Ed Bill Would Ban Kids From Talking About Periods & Promote Sexual Health Misinformation

Republican lawmakers in Florida are pushing an appalling anti-sex education bill that would ban period talk for children below Grade 6 — and promote a ton of misinformation about sexual health.

The bill in question, Florida HB 1069, proposes that any and all health education involving HIV/AIDS, sexually transmitted diseases, or “human sexuality” be relegated to “Grades 6 through 12.” It would also require health instructors to define sex as “determined by biology”; teach abstinence as “the expected standard” outside of marriage, effectively nixing comprehensive sex ed; espouse the benefits of “monogamous heterosexual marriage” to school-age children; and establish a process to ban books deemed “inappropriate or unsuitable” for certain age groups.

Is your blood boiling yet? Unfortunately, it gets worse: HB 1069 would also prohibit anyone below 6th Grade from talking about menstrual periods.

“Does this bill prohibit conversations about menstrual cycles?” state Rep. Ashley Gantt, a Democrat representing Miami, asked in a recent legislative hearing. “We know that typically, the age is between 10 and 15, so if little girls experience their menstrual cycles in 5th Grade or 4th Grade, would that prohibit conversations since they are in a grade lower than 6th Grade?”

“It would,” replied Republican state Rep. Stan McClain, the bill’s author.

This bill is dangerous and absurd for a litany of reasons. It should go without saying, but periods are basic function of reproductive biology for people with uteruses. Getting your period is nothing to fear or be ashamed of, but do you know what is shameful? Depriving young people of access to factual information about how their bodies work.

What’s more, abstinence-only sex education doesn’t work. Numerous peer-reviewed studies have the practical and ethical shortcomings of withholding information about safer sex practices from teens. Promoting abstinence leaves young people who are having sex vulnerable to STIs and pregnancy. Simply put, this approach isn’t backed by science; it’s in a service of a political agenda.

HB 1069 has only been heard by the state House’s Education Quality Subcommittee one out of the mandatory three times, so its future is unclear. Regardless, this bill is just the latest example of state lawmakers targeting people’s sexual and reproductive autonomy.

In the wake of last summer, at least 17 U.S. states have outlawed or severely restricted abortions. That includes Florida, which after 15 weeks of pregnancy. Providers are challenging this legislation.

HB 1069’s verbiage defining sex as “binary, stable, and unchangeable” is also in line with the Sunshine State’s multiple on the rights of transgender and nonbinary Floridians.

“These lawmakers are so obsessed with power and control that they are literally prohibiting young women from talking about menstruation,” Florida Planned Parenthood PAC . “Mandating birth, restricting sex ed, and vetoing funding for birth control is simply not enough for them.”

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by Anonymousreply 46March 25, 2023 10:55 PM

Horrid.

by Anonymousreply 1March 17, 2023 4:05 PM
by Anonymousreply 2March 18, 2023 2:53 AM

My God, this is yet another policy retread from the 80s. These fundie crackers keep hauling out these stale legislative leftovers.

by Anonymousreply 3March 18, 2023 3:10 AM

I learned about anal in 9th.

by Anonymousreply 4March 18, 2023 3:19 AM

Girls wouldn't even be allowed TO TALK TO EACH OTHER about periods?!!?

First, super fucking fascist. Second, how would they even enforce that?

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by Anonymousreply 5March 18, 2023 9:19 AM

Florida is right! We went through a MANDATORY sex education class at age 12, 7th grade, boys and girls separate. As for "health instructors to define sex as “determined by biology” and “defining sex as binary, stable, and unchangeable”, the schools are there to educate, not indoctrinate. Such as "periods are basic function of reproductive biology for people with uteruses". "People" don't get periods. WOMEN do.

by Anonymousreply 6March 18, 2023 9:33 AM

[quote]Such as "periods are basic function of reproductive biology for people with uteruses...

Yeah, uh, except they're NOT ALLOWED to discuss periods/menstruation AT ALL, R6, you idiot bootlicking bigot.

by Anonymousreply 7March 18, 2023 9:38 AM

R6 just stop. I'm not a huge fan of a lot of the gender ideology going around because I don't think sex should be seen as inconsequential to oneself, but that's a different conversation from the one about banning all things to do with sex education. I thought this idiot Desantis already addressed "queer indoctrination", so prey tell, why the need to target plain old sex education? It's insane to not educate young people about sex, menstruation, puberty, etc., ESPECIALLY now a days, when they are going through puberty earlier and exposed to adult sites online!

FFS, we have a rapidly rising issue with child on child sex abuse going on (we're talking YOUNG kids) so the last thing needed is to cut sex education down to nothing. Girls are getting their period way before 12 too now. My niece is 7 and needs a bra already. She'll likely be getting her period soon. 12 is too late and will be a joke if it's all "well, you see young ladies, it's just a biological funtion/ fact of life... Anymore questions? Too bad, can't discuss that!".

This is more Fundie terrorism being unleashed on the rest of us that are sane. First elimination of access to birth control options, then leave young girls ignorant. They think it'll fill this country with white, pure, healthy, Christian babies they can hopefully adopt. They're wrong though. It'll lead to more dead pregnant women, poverty, making women indentured servants again, birth defects, and babies thrown in dumpsters. Not many women, even young ones, willing to do 9 mos of torture, only to give that baby up.

by Anonymousreply 8March 18, 2023 10:30 AM

[quote] except they're NOT ALLOWED to discuss periods/menstruation AT ALL

R7 Which has NOTHING to do with the assertion posted at R6. But do continue with your childish rant.

Florida declines to promote the translunacy in its schools. Bad Florida! Bad! Bad!

by Anonymousreply 9March 18, 2023 10:32 AM

[quote]The bill in question, Florida HB 1069

Which, incidentally, is also the year to which they want to return.

by Anonymousreply 10March 18, 2023 10:37 AM

As we can all see, these kinds now a days aren't sheilded from exposure to sex like it was 20-30 years ago. Half will be going through puberty by 12. That's too late to talk about it. It's foolish to let them learn online when they can't access the info openly. It should be obvious that the party attacking abortion is setting young people up for failure by next attacking sex education.

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by Anonymousreply 11March 18, 2023 10:40 AM

[quote] As we can all see

R11 Please keep in mind that this is a gay forum on which adults discuss and exchange ideas. Your post pertains only to yourself. DL is not a re-education camp.

by Anonymousreply 12March 18, 2023 10:46 AM

I despise living in the UK sometimes and then I read the utter shit coming out of the US. WTF is this bullshit?! Periods are nothing to do with sex or what fucking gender you are. It’s basic biology that happens to those who are born as females (no matter who you might identify as). Everyone should know the basics. What they are, why the happen, the side effects & the products available. I don’t give a shit if it’s awkward for boys to hear about tampons or period cramps. Perhaps if they heard about them from a straight talking perspective, there would be less stigma, less bullying going on about it.

Kids cant even talk to each other about periods? WTF?! We are heading towards frigging dictatorship at this point. It’s horrifying.

Don’t educate kids on periods. Don’t educate kids on sex. Absolutely don’t educate them about contraception. Oh you got pregnant because no-one talked to you about it all. Sorry, no abortion, God says it’s wrong.

by Anonymousreply 13March 22, 2023 3:08 PM

As if education based on abstinence has ever worked with teenagers. Hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 14March 22, 2023 3:11 PM

Where does it say that girls shouldn't be allowed to talk to each other about periods, r5? Are they going to be arrested if they have a private conversation outside of school about periods?

The best person to teach a girl about periods is her mother.

by Anonymousreply 15March 22, 2023 3:16 PM

R15

So what if a girl is having issues with her period in class? Teachers are just supposed to ignore her and not help her understand what’s going on?

This is fucking ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 16March 22, 2023 3:47 PM

If she's having issues with her period in class, r16, she can just ask to be excused to go to the toilet.

by Anonymousreply 17March 22, 2023 3:51 PM

Wait, does this even block the NURSE from talking to girls about it when they first start having their periods?

Crazy that they don’t want girls to know about their bodies and what is happening to them.

by Anonymousreply 18March 22, 2023 3:58 PM

Tip of the iceberg for a while. Hopefully after this giant wave of stupidity, we'll slowly start to move back in the direction of rationality.

by Anonymousreply 19March 22, 2023 4:00 PM

I'm sure it will make some people happy, the people who believe anyone can be pregnant. It would be triggering to hear that only girls get their period. Yes, even your teacher.

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by Anonymousreply 20March 22, 2023 4:03 PM

How would being excused to go the bathroom help? If you aren’t allowed to reference or discuss periods, you can’t have menstrual hygiene products in there.

Also isn’t there a law in Florida that says you can’t teach anything that would make a student feel bad? It seems like some of these laws are on a collision course with themselves.

by Anonymousreply 21March 22, 2023 4:43 PM

It’s not clear if the ban is just on classroom instruction or if it is for all school personnel. I could see banning it from the classroom and from teachers talking about it, but you would want the school nurse to be able to talk about health related matters with the students and their parents. Hopefully the bill is fixed to clarify that.

by Anonymousreply 22March 22, 2023 6:22 PM

[quote] How would being excused to go the bathroom help?

Hopefully someone would be able to explain to them that they can’t come back to the classroom while they are still in a state of being unclean.

by Anonymousreply 23March 22, 2023 6:32 PM

A lot of super religious parents don't even tell their daughters about stuff like puberty and periods, numbnuts. The same about boys, that nocturnal emission and jerking off, and about how it's normal. They shame them about their bodies and their bodies' natural, biological functions.

I went to school with kids like that and puberty wrecked them. Utterly messed them up. Fundies are FUCKED UP and that what information that those poor kids can get about the outside world, science, biology, and their own bodies is being taken from them by these fascist bastards is heartbreaking and infuriating.

by Anonymousreply 24March 23, 2023 1:56 AM

it is about grade school but the guy who wrote the bill said it is for young kids. He said he would change it for 10 and over. Before 10 girls don't get their periods with few exceptions. It does not say anything about girls talking to each other about it it just applies to sex ed classes. You guys always exaggerate everything. always using hyperbole.

by Anonymousreply 25March 23, 2023 2:19 AM

We exaggerate?

Have conservatives recovered from the "War on Christmas", yet sis?.How many good "christian" men were sent to the front lines in that battle? Did they save Mr. Potatohead? How will they have Easter without trans M&Ms and commie Hershey candy? How will meemaw cook the Easter ham when Joe Biden is trying to take her gas stove from out of her soft, god-fearing hands, R25?

by Anonymousreply 26March 23, 2023 2:35 AM

Well, now they want to expand “don’t say gay” to all grades.

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by Anonymousreply 27March 23, 2023 3:16 AM

[quote]commie Hershey candy

WRONG, R26.

Hershey is gay male, not commie.

by Anonymousreply 28March 23, 2023 11:21 AM

And the moment we all knew was coming - a return to abstinence only sex ed!

Disgusting. It doesn't work and they know it doesn't work.

This is just deliberate misgovernance at this point.

by Anonymousreply 29March 23, 2023 12:52 PM

Well can they at least talk to that poor girl about the dangers of combining plaids and stripes?

by Anonymousreply 30March 23, 2023 12:55 PM

such a dirty foul perverted occurrence should only be whispered in the lowest tones and always with great shame

by Anonymousreply 31March 23, 2023 1:00 PM

Lol. School nurses are extinct. And period talk is about 50% of a middle schooler's conversation

by Anonymousreply 32March 23, 2023 1:12 PM

What about wet dreams? That was what the guys were talking about.

by Anonymousreply 33March 23, 2023 1:14 PM

So, r9, any bill, even a bill as fundamentally wrong as this one, is ok provided it’s got a good, solid antitrans bias?

You people are completely disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 34March 23, 2023 7:24 PM

Abstinence-only education works perfectly. The point is that sex is supposed to have consequences so you don't do it. Every chlamydia outbreak, every teen pregnancy, it's all part of the plan. It's not a bug, it's a feature. They're promoting not having sex so living examples of what happens if you do only makes their case even stronger. They want kids who have sex to suffer as an example.

by Anonymousreply 35March 23, 2023 7:42 PM

absence will have to be the norm with no abortion. Time to go back to shotgun weddings.

by Anonymousreply 36March 23, 2023 7:47 PM

Florida isn’t all that wrong but they do take things too far. I have no issue with things like periods not being taught to young kids, but a I also think a teacher should be able to discuss periods privately if asked by a child. There are some subjects that absolutely should come from a discussion between parent and child and not outsourced to schools. Schools should just be there to fill in the gaps and when it’s appropriate to the child’s age.

by Anonymousreply 37March 23, 2023 7:57 PM

The text of the Bill in question at the link, there's no mention of periods.

[quote]The bill in question, Florida HB 1069, proposes that any and all health education involving HIV/AIDS, sexually transmitted diseases, or “human sexuality” be relegated to “Grades 6 through 12.” It would also require health instructors to define sex as “determined by biology”;

This part sounds pretty common sense to me.

[quote] teach abstinence as “the expected standard” outside of marriage, effectively nixing comprehensive sex ed; espouse the benefits of “monogamous heterosexual marriage” to school-age children;

That is of course narrow-minded -- but the paper is editorializing and absolutizing while the text has caveats.

[quote]and establish a process to ban books deemed “inappropriate or unsuitable” for certain age groups.

That it does but the process is in stages and involves petitions and evidence, it's not an outright ban as the write-up makes it sound. It can be a slippery slope - on the other hand, age-appropriateness is important.

It's also the parents' job to tell their kids about the birds and the bees, they can use any material they want at home. And they should be informed about the effects of social media which the Bill doesn't address but it should.

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by Anonymousreply 38March 23, 2023 8:25 PM

If a subject is one that adults would not discuss openly in the workplace, then kids shouldn’t be talking about in school either, unless it is something that is part of classroom instruction (e.g. biology).

by Anonymousreply 39March 23, 2023 9:18 PM

Thing is they don’t want abstinence. They want teenage girls ignorant, pregnant and then saddled with a baby. It’s about keeping people in their place and crushing their opportunities for a better future. And they’re probably fine with absentee dads dumping their responsibilities.

by Anonymousreply 40March 23, 2023 11:58 PM

It may be a patent's job to tell their kids about sex, but anyone who believes that parents will invariably do a good job at it is a complete fool. Ultra religious people do their best to avoid the subject.

by Anonymousreply 41March 25, 2023 9:44 PM

"parent's job" that is.

Damn autocorrect.

by Anonymousreply 42March 25, 2023 9:45 PM

whatevs, it's Florida

by Anonymousreply 43March 25, 2023 9:56 PM

R38, what do you mean, there's no mention of periods in the bill? It bans discussions of "human sexuality" in grades below the 6th grade. That involves, you know, periods, and rather relevant because not talking about it doesn't mean that girls aren't going to get their periods before the 6th grade.

by Anonymousreply 44March 25, 2023 10:03 PM

As long as all the unmarried moms are white and push out white babies, the hard right fuckwits and monsters are just fine with it.

by Anonymousreply 45March 25, 2023 10:04 PM

R44, the article decided to single out periods as if talking about periods has been the expectation for lower grades.

by Anonymousreply 46March 25, 2023 10:55 PM
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