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I saw this and immediately thought of DL

From May 4, 1985

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by Anonymousreply 101March 21, 2023 10:36 AM

That there's 15!! shows with between nearly 24 million and nearly 31 million viewers is sort of amazing. And, obviously, there were considerably less people in the country then.

by Anonymousreply 1March 16, 2023 5:00 AM


by Anonymousreply 2March 16, 2023 5:07 AM

I believe this is May 1980, OP.

Real People was off the air by 1985, and Scruples originally aired in spring 1980.

by Anonymousreply 3March 16, 2023 5:26 AM

Agree, this is definitely 1980.

by Anonymousreply 4March 16, 2023 6:11 AM

Being old is a hilarious experience, not gonna lie. Yea I liked those shows

by Anonymousreply 5March 16, 2023 6:17 AM

The only top 10 list Bonnie Franklin appeared on in 1985 was Bestselling Tap Instructional Videos (and she was number 10).

by Anonymousreply 6March 16, 2023 6:19 AM

Scruples was juicy, I remember watching that.

by Anonymousreply 7March 16, 2023 6:36 AM

Alice was more popular than Dallas?

by Anonymousreply 8March 16, 2023 6:39 AM

You bet your grits it was!

by Anonymousreply 9March 16, 2023 6:41 AM

I always thought CBS was usually third behind ABC and NBC.

Most of those top 15 were CBS 🤷🏻‍♂️

by Anonymousreply 10March 16, 2023 6:59 AM

[quote]Scruples was juicy, I remember watching that.

Scruples is the only thing on the list I hadn't heard of, R7.

Lindsay Wagner, Gavin MacLeod, Barry Bostwick, Robert Reed, Connie Stevens, and per Wikipedia:

[quote]Scruples included the final screen appearance of Gene Tierney.

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by Anonymousreply 11March 16, 2023 7:00 AM


Remember when there was no FOX?

by Anonymousreply 12March 16, 2023 7:00 AM

NBC's career was in the shitter in the early 80's. Diff'rent Strokes and Facts of Life resuscitated it. Then Cheers and Family Ties got it off its feet. Then The Cosby Show and The Golden Girls sent it into the stratosphere.

by Anonymousreply 13March 16, 2023 7:02 AM

[R2] —Stannis Baratheon

by Anonymousreply 14March 16, 2023 7:02 AM

Our family (one tv back then) kept it on CBS on Sunday nights.

by Anonymousreply 15March 16, 2023 7:03 AM

My mother hates reading, I seriously think she’s only read one book (outside of school) her whole life, and that one book was Scruples! I’d never heard the word before. Someone loaned her the book & insisted she read it, she wouldn’t have done it otherwise. We rarely watched CBS shows (the channel was always snowy) but we did watch that, only because she read the book & wanted to see what the adaptation was like.

by Anonymousreply 16March 16, 2023 7:12 AM

Early to bed, early to rise…

by Anonymousreply 17March 16, 2023 8:56 AM

[quote]Mom’s the only person who says: the movie is always better than the book

Is that what she said about "Scruples" or is that just her general assessment about everything?

by Anonymousreply 18March 16, 2023 9:36 AM

Could never stand "Alice".

by Anonymousreply 19March 16, 2023 9:51 AM

r19: Kiss My Grits!

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by Anonymousreply 20March 16, 2023 10:46 AM

Alice shows that people will always flock to see a girl who can sing and dance.

by Anonymousreply 21March 16, 2023 10:57 AM

“Billy took to fucking Jews with an enthusiasm even Jessica couldn’t have matched.”

by Anonymousreply 22March 16, 2023 11:04 AM

Not sure how legitimate that list really is or when it's actually from, but all's I can say is I was a teenager then and not one of those shows would have been watched by me (maybe the first 2-3 seasons of Dallas). And I watched TV a lot back then.

But I agree that for 1985, there's no way Alice would be #1. Bwaaaahaaahaaaa.

Here's a wiki page link for the actual hit shows of the 1984-85 season.

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by Anonymousreply 23March 16, 2023 12:25 PM

My apologies. The list is legit, I put the wrong date. This is from TV Guide, March 15, 1980. Taken from the RetroNewsNow Twitter.

The only reason I posted it was because Alice was #1 and it makes me happy when you queens bitch about Linda Lavin, even though she was #1 in the Nielsens and pulling in 31 million viewers a week. 😁

by Anonymousreply 24March 16, 2023 1:05 PM

scruples was a BODACE RIPPER

by Anonymousreply 25March 16, 2023 1:11 PM

I was born in 1971 and grew up in Ohio. I remember that “Scruples” was a big deal but I don’t remember why. Was it just hype?

The Grammys didn’t get a big audience…. Was that the year of Christopher Cross?

by Anonymousreply 26March 16, 2023 1:12 PM

My favorite show of 1980 was

Galactica 1980

which only lasted the one season

by Anonymousreply 27March 16, 2023 1:21 PM

I can’t believe Alice and ODAAT beat out Three’s Company.

by Anonymousreply 28March 16, 2023 1:27 PM

The IMDb makes it sound like all 3 episodes of "Scruples" aired on February 25, 1980, but surely not. It was 290 minutes total, it must have been on once a week for 3 weeks.

At first I thought I hadn't heard of "Scruples" but once I saw the book cover I recognized it immediately. The mini series has also been released on DVD by Warner Archive!

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by Anonymousreply 29March 16, 2023 1:37 PM

[quote]Alice was more popular than Dallas?

That was Alice's ratings-peak season, the last with Polly Holliday as Flo. Dallas wasn't there yet. JR would get shot the very next week (the March 21, 1980 episode), and Dallas's ratings would increase by almost a third in the 1980-81 season, which was its high water mark.

by Anonymousreply 30March 16, 2023 1:38 PM

How much of "Trapper John's" 26 share were gay boys, watching to see hot piece of ass Gregory Harrison emerge from the shower in the opening credits?

by Anonymousreply 31March 16, 2023 1:45 PM

Decent, free entertainment. No bingeing. If you missed a show you had to wait for rerun season.

by Anonymousreply 32March 16, 2023 1:56 PM

I had to look up this Scruples movie since I was too young. Low and behold, it appears that Judith Krantz was a DLer. The first sentence of the wiki plot entry reads:

[quote] Wilhelmina Hunnewell Winthrop is a plain young woman, and a "poor relative" of the Winthrops, a wealthy Boston family. After she graduates from high school, she is given a sum of money by an aunt and goes to live in Paris with family friends.

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by Anonymousreply 33March 16, 2023 2:25 PM

Scruples was naughty.

by Anonymousreply 34March 16, 2023 2:39 PM

[quote]The IMDb makes it sound like all 3 episodes of "Scruples" aired on February 25, 1980, but surely not. It was 290 minutes total, it must have been on once a week for 3 weeks.

This would have been a miniseries, so they would have run it consecutive nights all in one week. The miniseries was put into place to air during certain programming weeks.

For example, many series aired an average of 20 episodes a year. So they would broadcast the first 10 episodes in the late September/October - December. Christmas programming would take over in December. Then specials would be programmed in (miniseries, sporting events, movies broadcast on tv, sometimes pilots for new shows, etc) and around the remaining 10-12 series episodes so that the tv season would end in May.

by Anonymousreply 35March 16, 2023 2:55 PM

Where’s Laverne & Shirley? Wasn’t that the number one show late 70s?

How are more people watching Alice and ODAAT over Three’s Company? Hadnt the Jeffersons been on like 8 years by then already?

by Anonymousreply 36March 16, 2023 3:01 PM

[quote] Where’s Laverne & Shirley? Wasn’t that the number one show late 70s?

By this time Laverne & Shirley had moved to California and their show took a serious drop. They had really run their course, but the Marshalls didn't want to admit it and end the show.

by Anonymousreply 37March 16, 2023 3:04 PM

Amazing how one tv show could get 30 million viewers on any given night back then. That is unheard of today.

by Anonymousreply 38March 16, 2023 6:29 PM

Who are those crazy queens who watched part 3 of Scruples without having watched part 2?

by Anonymousreply 39March 16, 2023 6:53 PM

[quote]Amazing how one tv show could get 30 million viewers on any given night back then.

Far fewer channels to watch. Now almost everything is at your fingertips for a subscription price.

[quote]And I watched TV a lot back then.

Didn't we all? It seems like that was the only thing to do during a certain age range.

by Anonymousreply 40March 16, 2023 8:10 PM

they had to have some half naked guy on it 'cause that's the only way i would have watched it.

oh, and jamie sommers.

by Anonymousreply 41March 16, 2023 8:21 PM

Limo for the lameo

by Anonymousreply 42March 16, 2023 8:24 PM

"Scruples" was such a great book. If any of you bitches haven't read it yet, it's .99 on Kindle right now.

by Anonymousreply 43March 16, 2023 8:51 PM

Only recently did I come to understand that Danielle Steel and Judith Krantz were two different people, somehow they fused together as one in my mind.

by Anonymousreply 44March 16, 2023 9:45 PM

Krantz was a better writer. And funny.

by Anonymousreply 45March 16, 2023 9:54 PM

Alice had spunk.

I hate spunk.

by Anonymousreply 46March 16, 2023 9:55 PM

Scruples, and then Lace a couple of years later gave me life as a gayling.

by Anonymousreply 47March 16, 2023 10:09 PM

Lace! With the line "Which one of you BITCHES is my mother?"

So scandalous in my middle school!

by Anonymousreply 48March 16, 2023 10:10 PM

Judith Krantz wrote great trashy novels. Very entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 49March 16, 2023 10:14 PM

R31, I was watching for Trapper himself. Harrison wasn’t hairy enough for me. I had a bit of a fetish in those days. Fortunately, I have broadened my horizons and can now appreciate Harrison. I still think Pernell Roberts (Trapper) was hot and had a much sexier personality besides (on the show).

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by Anonymousreply 50March 16, 2023 11:09 PM

R11, Scruples was great! And what a catalog of ‘70s-‘80s made-for-TV stars. The book was fun, too.

R29, thanks for the tip. The DVD is winging its way to me from Amazon as we speak.

I couldn't go back to living in those days because I couldn't give up the internet. But you can't miss what you've never had, and I'd happily relive that year ('80-81). So many great memories ... and so many people who are gone now.

by Anonymousreply 51March 16, 2023 11:12 PM

That is, I'd happily relive that year ('79-'80), although '80-'81 would be even better.

by Anonymousreply 52March 16, 2023 11:25 PM

Fascinating how many shows were CBS. And how was Trapper John such a hit!? Must have had a good lead-in.

It does however have a fantastic theme. Trombones descending a perfect 5th, love it.

by Anonymousreply 53March 16, 2023 11:31 PM

I didn't watch a single one of those.

by Anonymousreply 54March 16, 2023 11:31 PM

Here's the pilot episode of Trapper John MD. Perfect for Datalounge:

Gregory Harrison's shower moment Mary McCarty of FOLLIES fame Jack Gilford of GOLDEN GIRLS fame Roddy MacDowall of gay fame

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by Anonymousreply 55March 16, 2023 11:32 PM

R55, thank you. As I recall, the nurse was nicknamed "Bubbles" until humorless nurses and feminists complained that it trivialized the profession and they had to start calling her by her character's real name.

by Anonymousreply 56March 16, 2023 11:42 PM

Harrison also has FOLLIES cred, r55, and I wish there was more McCarty out there.

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by Anonymousreply 57March 16, 2023 11:45 PM

[quote]Low and behold

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 58March 16, 2023 11:52 PM

Here is the actual top 15 from May 4, 1985.

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by Anonymousreply 59March 17, 2023 12:02 AM

And I have no memory of a show called “Crazy Like a Fox”!

by Anonymousreply 60March 17, 2023 12:04 AM

I'm old enough to remember Dynasty and Dallas, those shows were HUGE. All of my adult female relatives were avid watchers.

by Anonymousreply 61March 17, 2023 12:25 AM

I watched Crazy Like a Fox. Jack Warden was my Daddy fetish.

by Anonymousreply 62March 17, 2023 2:04 AM

They've been showing "Crazy Like a Fox" on one of those Medicare/Mesothelioma channels.

by Anonymousreply 63March 17, 2023 4:01 AM

I haven't Googled yet, but wasn't Crazy Like A Fox the show were the old guy adopts a bunch of little girls.

by Anonymousreply 64March 17, 2023 4:06 AM

I'd forgotten about Crazy Like a Fox and Riptide.

I wish I could forget about Cosby and Family Ties.

by Anonymousreply 65March 17, 2023 4:16 AM

ABC sure went into the shitter very fast, after ruling the '70s with shows like "Laverne & Shirley," "Happy Days," "Three's Company," "Taxi," "Charlie's Angels," etc. In both the 1980 and 1985 lists that OP posted, ABC only has 2 of the top 15 shows.

by Anonymousreply 66March 17, 2023 4:17 AM

Loved Crazy Like A Fox.

Anything with Jack Warden was sure to be enjoyable.

by Anonymousreply 67March 17, 2023 4:35 AM

[quote] Jack Gilford of GOLDEN GIRLS fame

Jack Gilford was in the original Broadway casts of Cabaret, The Diary of Anne Frank, Once Upon A Mattress and Forum, as well as other shows.

by Anonymousreply 68March 17, 2023 4:46 AM

[quote] Anything with Jack Warden was sure to be enjoyable

I think he was literally in every other movie between 1975-1985. Loved him.

by Anonymousreply 69March 17, 2023 6:52 AM

R59 - thanks! There was a lot of eye candy on those shows. I loved Simon & Simon. Gerald McRaney and Jameson Parker were such different types but both so sexy.

I also loved Riptide, with Perry King and Joe Penny. I was wondering WHET Joe Penny, but I see his imdb page is pretty busy with TV movies. And yet, the only other thing I remember him in is Blood Vows: The Story of a Mafia Wife, with Melissa Gilbert as the eponymous wife and Penny as her evil but sexy husband.

It's too bad neither of these weeks contained a Battle of the Network Stars. As I recall, they always did well in the ratings.

by Anonymousreply 70March 17, 2023 8:18 AM

It's nostalgic to think how network television dominated popular culture in those days. It was one thing almost all Americans had in common, something we lack today. Nothing is as nearly universal in America today as network TV was from the '50s through ... maybe the '90s?

by Anonymousreply 71March 17, 2023 8:19 AM

I did love the pendulum swing of which network was on top and how quickly it changed, it kept them lean and hungry ready to try something new. Today who knows which streamer is on top at any time, and if it even impacts them or not, and one doesn’t really see the outcome.

by Anonymousreply 72March 17, 2023 8:55 AM

I knew this wasn't 1985 otherwise our beloved Murder, She Wrote would be there!

by Anonymousreply 73March 17, 2023 9:03 AM

I loved "Crazy Like a Fox"! My parents liked Jack Warden and dad liked anything with detectives, crime, or courtrooms, so they were primed to like it anyway, but then I ended up liking it too. I seem to recall a lot of kids at school also watching it. But then it kept getting pre-empted for sports, I think, and got cancelled really early, then people complained so they filmed a reunion movie maybe a year after it was cancelled. Graham Chapman was in it, of all people.

It was on right before "Trapper John MD" which we were already watching.

by Anonymousreply 74March 17, 2023 10:11 AM

ABC had a few really good shows in the 84-85 season, like "Who's the Boss" and "Moonlighting." Some shows like "Street Hawk" and "Matt Houston" were good and if they'd had a chance they would have gotten better with time.

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by Anonymousreply 75March 17, 2023 10:14 AM

R75, thank you for mentioning Matt Houston - the show that opened with a closeup of Lee Horsley's crotch. '84-'85 would be its last season. (It had premiered in the '81-'82 season.)

Wasn't Moonlighting a mid-season replacement for something? I seem to remember it premiering in the late winter or spring of 1985 and becoming a groundbreaking hit right away. More '80s TV eye candy! And Moonlighting, at least, was also great television.

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by Anonymousreply 76March 17, 2023 10:36 AM

Those bitches were hacks, R44. HACKS!

by Anonymousreply 77March 17, 2023 11:38 AM

Crazy Like a Fox has that awesome theme music and those delightfully campy shots from the show

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by Anonymousreply 78March 17, 2023 11:41 AM

1985 also had "V," the sci fi tv movie about alien lizards disguised as humans who invade Earth. Remember the fierce Jane Badler as Diana, the alien leader?

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by Anonymousreply 79March 17, 2023 8:25 PM

No wonder ABC pumped so much money into DYNASTY…the #1 show on tv and then basically nothing else in the top 15. I know HOTEL is in there, but ONLY because it had DYNASTY as a lead-in. I never got into HOTEL..I kind of remember watching it a bit if I forgot to turn the channel after watching Alexis, Fallon, etc.

by Anonymousreply 80March 17, 2023 10:45 PM

I think HOTEL would have worked better had they just kept the same format as LOVE BOAT and not tried to turn it into an episodic melodrama with guest stars and 22 min stories. That said, I never watched HOTEL or rarely watched LOVE BOAT thinking they were both shit.

by Anonymousreply 81March 17, 2023 10:55 PM

Bette Davis did the pilot episode of Hotel, which she called "Brothel." Then she got sick and didn't do any more episodes.

by Anonymousreply 82March 17, 2023 11:24 PM

Would have loved to see Bette Davis do a season or two of Hotel, just to be able to see her weekly on screen. She's a bit stiff in the pilot, but I bet she would have warmed up.

by Anonymousreply 83March 18, 2023 1:05 AM

I would have loved to watch James Brolin in "Male Brothel"...

by Anonymousreply 84March 18, 2023 1:24 AM

R84 - How do you think Shea Farrell got the job? Well, HOW?

by Anonymousreply 85March 18, 2023 1:33 AM

WHET Heidi Bohay???

by Anonymousreply 86March 18, 2023 1:35 AM

When I read OP's headline, I thought this was going to be a thread about a caftan sale.

by Anonymousreply 87March 18, 2023 1:37 AM

Same here r84. James Brolin was sex on a fucking stick back then.

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by Anonymousreply 88March 18, 2023 1:43 AM

Connie Sellecca was a charisma-free zone.

by Anonymousreply 89March 18, 2023 2:02 AM

Yup, my teens right there

by Anonymousreply 90March 18, 2023 2:05 AM

R89 I win that contest! Plus I wasn’t even attractive.

by Anonymousreply 91March 18, 2023 2:05 AM

Jim should reboot "Hotel" as "Mall," with charismatic Barbra replacing dreary Connie.

by Anonymousreply 92March 18, 2023 4:27 AM

R86, I seem to recall Heidi married her co-star from the show, Michael something-or-other. He was cute, so she had good taste. Wonder if they're still together?

by Anonymousreply 93March 18, 2023 5:07 AM

V was the bomb r79! Everyone was watching and talking about it! I also really liked Hotel. I forgot all about that show.

by Anonymousreply 94March 18, 2023 9:52 AM

R93 - Michael Spound. Yes, he was. Yes, they are. They also spawned a few more Spounds. Here he is in his glory days...

by Anonymousreply 95March 18, 2023 11:12 PM

Let's try that again, shall we?

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by Anonymousreply 96March 18, 2023 11:12 PM

I still remember Liz Taylor’s entrance when she guest-starred on Hotel. The star power positively radiated.

by Anonymousreply 97March 18, 2023 11:24 PM

R97 - We had to use a wide angle lens.

by Anonymousreply 98March 19, 2023 2:32 PM

Ms. B, you know you stole that from Joan "she's so fat her blood type is Ragu" Rivers.

by Anonymousreply 99March 19, 2023 11:06 PM

The dead can't sue, R99. Oh, and reminds me... Liz has more chins than a Chinese phonebook.

by Anonymousreply 100March 20, 2023 10:20 PM

Season 1 was my favorite version of the "Alice" theme song.

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