Finally, the End of “Tár“

The awards are over - time to deal with real life.

Lil’ Miss Rosenberg has spoken! Get her! Guess it needed more buttplugs and hotdog dildos.

[quote] In the end, what I wanted from Tár was to just say with its chest what it whispers. Show art is powerful. Do a single thing formally or in the script that shocks. Make us squirm not with this annoying logic about cancel culture, but terror: Make us fall in love with Tár’s art as we see the evil she does.

I read that whole essay. How annoying. He just whines throughout the whole thing, culminating in a personal attack on Zadie Smith, and then saying the above quote—that his problem with Tár is that the story is not the story he would have preferred it told. An entirely different story. It's like saying pianos are terrible instruments that should not exist because you were really hoping to have heard guitar music.

as a professional classical musician, blachett's conducting chops are laughable at best

This was my reading of the movie as well and I was perplexed at so many film critics creaming themselves over it.

Tard, as in retarded

R4 please expand, I find conducting as an art form so fascinating. What could Cate have done differently for more verisimilitude?

[quote] What if one of the most condescending, ridiculous scenes I’ve ever seen in a film was, in fact, not a poorly written Gen-X jeremiad but something which offers Easter eggs to question art’s nature to reality itself?

Once I figured out what this sentence could possibly mean, I realised I didn’t know to which scene it was even referring.

Tar is Mommy Dearest for pseudo-intellectuals and trust fund hipsters.

Cate's conducting tutor:

“Cate can conduct now, if she wants,” Murray Beale told the Observer. “She is very musical, sings beautifully and now she has the tools to conduct. I suggested she learn the musical lines of the pieces by heart, rather than learning the score or copying another performance.”

“I’m delighted that colleagues say it is authentic,” said Murray Beale. “We went into great detail on the psychology of conducting. These abusive behaviours do still exist. There are not many places where a boss has such power. A conductor is a gatekeeper. I have witnessed anger in rehearsal and even a tussle between conductor and musician. It’s a highly competitive field.”

This review is ao convoluted to the point of being illegible. He follows more or less the same route of Brody in The New Yorkers. The problem is Brody is profoundly dishonest: in his first paragraph he tell us the movie treats Lydia Tar as a victim and her accusers unhinged or hysterical, which is completely false.

Although we are not given much details about what happened with the student who died, we see her frantic reactions, deleting emails, invading her assistant’s computer, etc. Also, great part of the movie involves her predatory, manipulative behavior in respect of the new musician, she even defrauds the audition process. Her wrongdoing ise ident, only we don’t know the full extent of it, because this is not a movie about (or mainly about) cancel culture.

Like it or not it is an ambiguous, intriguing film which does not provide evident answers.

Mother Jones has gone down the crapper like NPR.

Who is this cuck?

Middebrow??

***GASPS IN HORROR***

[quote] as a professional classical musician, blachett's conducting chops are laughable at best

Oh, [italic]dear[/Italic]... that dangling modifying phrase!

Your grammatical skills are laughable at best.

R14 if they want to go that route, opera itself is middlebrow. It was generally considered soapy entertainment for aspirants and nouveau-riche, though some Kings & Queens and nobles throughout time been known to enjoy it. Opera hasn't the cachet of classical.

R9 It’s Mommie Dearest. Dumbass.

But that scene with the student refusing to play Bach is something that I and many other teachers have seen in the classroom over the past few years. It was remarkable how real that was.

[quote]Oh, dear... that dangling modifying phrase!

fuck off, cunt. your prose ain't strungk and white, either. eat shit and die

R18 that was me at 16 vs my flute teacher. I hated Bach then, and while my hate has softened with time I still don't like him now. I find almost all of his work barring perhaps the Te Deum unlistenable and tedious. If I never hear the Airs from the Goldberg Variations again. And it's almost all fucking religious, too.

The reification of this dusty man is absolutely beyond me, and I don't think that automatically makes me a philistine or an idiot. He isn't the be-all end-all of classical.

Todd Field as a director peaked with 'In The Bedroom', btw.

Nick Stahl & Marisa Tomei were one of the best surprising couples ever put onscreen.

This idiot is also the Associate Editor of Mother Jones.

Are you a student at a top musical conservatory, r20? It should also be pointed out that the BIPOC pangender student didn't like any classical composers, not just Bach. He was only interested in one composer, a contemporary female Icelandic composer. It's weird for a conducting student to like only one composer.

R18, do you teach at a "top" (to the extent that Julliard is top) music school?