Angela Bassett needs to get over it!

Did she say or do something? I haven't seen anything about Angela acting bitter.

Angela is a narcissistic diva but I find JLC fucking unbearably smug, self-righteous, and tiresome. And NOT a diva.

The funny part is we know what role and movie Angela was nominated for back then. But do we know what Holly Hunter was nominated for?

I had no idea Holly won an Oscar either.

[quote]Did she say or do something?

She did the thing

Until this year, I thought Angela Bassett had retired decades ago 🤔

The Piano is a classic

If you don’t know that, you’re young and/or ignorant

R6 The Piano was an excruciating moviegoing experience. And I love Holly Hunter and Harvey Keitel.

R6 I’ve never heard of that movie in my life.

But I do know “What’s Love Got To Do With It” because it’s a movie people still watch and can quote and is still on TV and streaming services.

Come on, R6. Hate it or love it, The Piano is a very well-known film. Anna Paquin won an Oscar for her performance in it. It made her a star.

Jane Campion did a good job with The Piano. Casting Harvey Keitel and Holly Hunter, not so good.

OH! When I searched it, I recognize Holly’s character from the photos. I’ve never seen it but I remember Holly with that hairstyle.

I was 6 when that movie was released. Was this the movie that inspired Jodie to make “Nell”?

[Quote]Did she say or do something?

No, she didn't and that's the point.

r9 And how long did that stardom last, eh?

R3 I don’t know The Piano. Ha! Stick to Housewives Of… R8 People quote. What’s Love Got To Do With It. No they don’t.

Shut the fuck up cracker. AB should have had several Oscars by now.

R14 Yes they do. Whats Love Got To Do With It is always on TV / streaming somewhere unlike The Piano.

“Eat the cake Anna Mae” is a pretty famous quote / scene.

You sound like you’re 800 years old.

I didn’t think JLC deserved it either.

In that moment, I think Angela Bassett was disappointed/stunned. She probably thought she was going to win. Thus, her reaction (or lack thereof). I was hoping she would win.

JLC is an insufferable tranny and her pretentious husband hasn't done anything of note since Waiting for Guffman.

[quote]But do we know what Holly Hunter was nominated for?

A horrid movie where she doesn’t speak one fucking word.

I thought Angela would win as well. I think she was in shock when JLC was called. Shit Jamie was in shock.

Angela pissed all over Halle Berrys win back in the day anyway.

Of the films nominated in the 1994 Oscars I'd say the best remembered are

Schindler's List (for obvious reasons)

Sleepless In Seattle (more so than Philadelphia)

The Age Of Innocence (more so than In The Name Of The Father)

The Remains Of The Day (more so than The Piano)

What's Love Got To Do With It (one of the best musical biopics, better than Walk The Line, Ray and Judy)

Jurassic Park and Mrs Doubtfire probably the two most popular films from that year.

R3, Holly Hunter won the Oscar, the BAFTA, the Golden Globe, the Cannes Film Festival Award, the LA Film Critics Award, the New York Film Critics Award, the Chicago Film Critics Award, the National Board of Review Award, etc., for "The Piano" in '93-'94. What did Angela Bassett win that awards season?

JLC won an Oscar. Good. Maybe she’ll sit down and shut the fuck up.

R13 She's still a star, dear, 30 years later:

True Blood X-Men Scream Almost Famous...to name a few

And still working today.

Angela Bassett's performance as Tina Turner was excellent and had she lost to say, Jessica Lange in Blue Sky the next year, I would say she was robbed. But Holly Hunter was excellent in The Piano (my favorite film of 1993) and won everything that year -- all the critics' prizes, plus Best Actress at Cannes, the Golden Globe, and the Oscar. Bassett's sole major precursor was the Golden Globe in the separate Musical/Comedy category.

I do think it's silly to argue that a certain performer should have won because, 30 years later, their film has retained more of a fan base. A biopic of a beloved figure like Tina Turner is always going to be more accessible and appreciated by general audiences than an arthouse film like The Piano, but that doesn't necessarily make it better.

I have never read anyone talk about The Remains of the Day outside of DL circles. Mike Nichols in general hasn’t held up well besides his early two hits.

R12 I didn't notice that. Shady indeed.

"The Piano" grossed $140 million worldwide on a minuscule budget, more than twice what the higher-budgeted "What's Love Got to Do With It?" made. It shared the Palme d'Or at Cannes with "Farewell My Concubine," is sometimes touted as the greatest film ever made by a woman director, and it entered the Criterion Collection last year. There's nothing obscure about it, then or now.

[quote]She did the thing

She didn’t do the thing.

What’s love got to do with it is famous because Tina Turner is/was famous. The “eat the cake Anna Mae” scene, like the rape scene and other elements, were fabricated for the movie. Angela didn’t even sing!

Angela Bassett was tacky.

This whole "I DEMAND to be nominated/win!!!" thing is very unseemly.

What’s Love was a typical biopic.

I remember laughing at her Buddhist chanting.

[quote]I have never read anyone talk about The Remains of the Day outside of DL circles. Mike Nichols in general hasn’t held up well besides his early two hits.

It's shown fairly often on British tv. The book remains a classic and it's one of the few dramas of that era to cover the British aristocracy's Nazi sympathies.

If we're going to nominate actors for spouting tripe in puerile Marvel movies, one might as well have nominated Joan Crawford for Trog.

She was good in Waiting to Exhale but she wasn't even the best actress in it. Neither JLC nor Bassett gave an Oscar worthy performance this year. They both should be happy they were nominated.

Angela Bassett gave a similar performance in Wakanda Forever to Ian McKellen in Lord Of The Rings. Did anyone complain about him getting a nomination?

Mike Nichols planned to direct "The Remains of the Day," but ended up with a producing credit. James Ivory directed it.

[quote] [R6] I’ve never heard of that movie in my life.

Well, if YOU'VE never heard of it, then it must be obscure, because the entire universe revolves around you.

R38 Yes.

I hate the way Angela Bassett and her fans especially act about this whole thing. If it was the other way around and Angela won, I know Jamie would've smiled and clapped for her. I don't know why she has to be so bitter and entitled, like she was owed the award. She'll probably get one for some arthouse film someday anyway, just not a Marvel movie.

And her fans bullying Jamie and saying nasty things about her, trying to turn this into an issue of race and nepotism. Jamie is a good actress and deserved the award. It is upsetting that this is perhaps the happiest moment of her professional life and they're going to try ruin it for her with their negativity and bitterness. They need to get over it. The award is hers and no amount of bellyaching will take it away.

R21 Actually, she spoke a lot of words, just in her head. We hear her speak a lot.

[quote]Angela Bassett was tacky. This whole "I DEMAND to be nominated/win!!!" thing is very unseemly.

It’s the typical black entitlement/victimhood mentality. “It was stolen from me!”

See also Viola Davis. See also Jada Pinkett Smith. See also Beyonce.

[quote]I have never read anyone talk about The Remains of the Day outside of DL circles. Mike Nichols in general hasn’t held up well besides his early two hits.

The Remains of the Day was not a Mike Nichols film, idiot.

He was originally attached. But it ended up being made by Merchant Ivory.

And it is a wonderful film, that, clearly, would have gone over your dizzy little head.

Has Angela Bassett said anything about not winning the Oscar? Could someone link for me?

You can’t “lose” anything you didn’t have in the first place.

[quote] But I do know “What’s Love Got To Do With It” because it’s a movie people still watch and can quote and is still on TV and streaming services.

People quote Showgirls and Mommie Dearest…

delish!

She did look absolutely gorgeous and glamorous, carried herself like a true MOVIE STAR.

R38 Both are dumb. So I spoke of it.

R50 Now it's back to her network tv procedural.

Oh, come on. Angela thought she DESERVED a Chadwick Boseman Memorial Oscar for her camp performance. Marvel was counting on it, yet again.

No more sob story handouts for Marvel and Chadwick Boseman.

[quote]You can’t “lose” anything you didn’t have in the first place.

Tell that to Beyoncé’s delusional stans. She “earned” awards that were “stolen” by white people.

[quote]We’ve been here before. Beyoncé has stood in a cheering crowd while Beck (2015), Adele (2017), and now Harry Styles (2023) took an award that she had earned.

If they really want to talk about racism, let's talk about how Till and The Woman King weren't nominated for anything. Danielle Deadwyler and Viola Davis should've been in the Best Actress category over Ana De Armas for that piece of shit, Blonde, and Andrea Risenborough.

Bassett was the shade queen of the night!

As if JLC wouldn't have been equally as shady had Angela won. That bitch probably would have had to be institutionalized right then and there.

It's time the bitch did Broadway and weaseled her way into the Tony race.

All Bassett did was sit there. She didn't flip off the camera. People are allowed to be disappointed.

Looks like the LSA bitter loser cunts have infested this thread. Hee!

So much for "women supporting women". AB really bought into the narrative that she was the front runner. She only won the Golden Globe because the HFPA were trying to prove they weren't racist.

R48 Two great movies!

Find me someone who has watched “The Piano” a hundred times.

She’s a nasty miserable old cunt! She lost! Thank god!!!!

Did Auntie's husband have a stroke at some point? Because the creep never smiles. Of course, he had a promising career once.

Girls. Please. They’re both cunts.

I hated the Piano and Holly Hunter’s performance reminded me of that weird Colleen Fenman character Gilda Radner played on SNL.

The Remains of the Day is a great movie.

Viola didn't deserve anything this year except a Razzie for her Michelle Obama performance. But they don't give Razzies for TV.

Angela was very ungracious and could have clapped. It's an award chosen by her peers. Her peers chose to give it to someone else. I remember at school they were announcing an award. They described the person without staring the name until the end. I was so sure it was me that I started to get up when they said "and the award goes to"... and they announced another name.

The only one who thought they deserved that award was my ego.

JLC was basically selling glimpses of her penis in the campaign for her Oscar = why Bassett would be surprised JLC won is beyond me.

*stating

I liked Angela's dress but I wish it had been a few shades darker, like eggplant instead of lilac.

It was bad form that she didn't stand and clap.

I just don’t know where the “Angels Bassett should have had an Oscar by now” narrative came from. She was worthy of the one nomination she had before this year, and that’s it.

Sherri Shepherd spoke about her disappointment in Angela not winning, since Oscar-rewarding roles are not readily available for Black actors and actresses. Who knows if she'll get another chance, unlike many of her White counterparts. That makes Angela's visible displeasure more understandable.

[quote] If they really want to talk about racism, let's talk about how Till and The Woman King weren't nominated for anything.

Given how bad conditions are overall for Blacks in the United States, THOSE are your most pressing examples of racism?

You've got to get your priorities in life straighter, Mary.

No. You entitled white men of privilege need to get over it.

You need to step aside and let only women of color address this matter. And how DARE you tell a woman of color how to respond or react. It is not your place. Stay in your lane.

Angela Bassett is a Queen. She was robbed of an Oscar as a means to uphold white mediocrity and keep women of color from eating at the table.

Jamie Lee should be ashamed. YOU should be ashamed.

You should remain silent on this issue. Issues re: women of color do not require your opinion.

[quote] The Piano is a classic

And What's Love Got to Do with It isn't.

And Bassett is NOT the great actress she thinks she is. She's always the same in every movie, everywhere, all at once.

Oh please. JLC won the Critic's Choice. It was not like AB absolutely knew she had it in the bag. She was ungracious last night and she has been ungracious over the years. It clearly has not won her any fans in the industry.

r76 = LSA loser

You have stated your boundaries clearly, r76! I will DO BETTER!

R76 is Jada

It's just an award. It's not real life or in any sense important.

[quote]uphold white mediocrity and keep women of color from eating at the table.

Most women of color are morbidly obese so they’re clearly eating at some table.

She didn't say anything against JLC's win, so far as I can tell; she just looked disappointed when she didn't win, as I would have too.

I don;t see what the problem is.

R76 uh 2 of the 4 acting winners last night were...of color

They were Asian

I'm sorry but I think I might have jinxed her with that thing.

Angela Bassett's attitude was this year's slap.

She was honest about losing it the last time, so it shouldn't be a surprise this time.

R76 doesn't think Asians are "people of colour", R85.

[quote] Did she say or do something? I haven't seen anything about Angela acting bitter.

She did nothing. THIS IS A RACE BAIT THREAD!

People aren't allowed to be disappointed now??? Do you know that not everyone processes disappointment the same way? DL racists will find ANY reason to find fault with POCs.

[quote] [R3], Holly Hunter won the Oscar, the BAFTA, the Golden Globe, the Cannes Film Festival Award, the LA Film Critics Award, the New York Film Critics Award, the Chicago Film Critics Award, the National Board of Review Award, etc., for "The Piano" in '93-'94. What did Angela Bassett win that awards season?

That was a time when performances by Black actors were routinely dismissed. It was not a reflection on the obvious merits Bassett's performance, in 1994 the Oscar nomination was it's own reward for a Black actor. Remember, Whoopi lost to Geraldine Page.

30 years later, Bassett had every reason to believe that SHE would receive the career achievement Oscar not JLC.

Angela's performance in Wakanda Forever was overacted and hammy. I felt she was the least effective of the actors in that film. She has done good work, sure. But did she deserve an Oscar for this? No, no she did not.

FWIW I don't think JLC was the best supporting actress either. Should have gone to Kerry Condon or Stephanie Hsu.

JLC's role was funny and she went all in and I'm happy for her. Angela is a presence for sure, but that doesn't mean she deserves an Oscar for this. What she did by not standing and not clapping was tacky and low.

[quote] I hate the way Angela Bassett and her fans especially act about this whole thing. If it was the other way around and Angela won, I know Jamie would've smiled and clapped for her. I don't know why she has to be so bitter and entitled, like she was owed the award. She'll probably get one for some arthouse film someday anyway, just not a Marvel movie.

No, she won't. "Sunset Boulevard" is not happening. Angela will never have another chance.

Fuck off, OP.

Just stop. She looked a little sad, big deal. Happens a lot. When Burt Reynolds scowled over losing to Robin Williams--for a role that Burt COMPLAINED about--everyone kissed his ass about how sad it was he never got the statue.

This thread is garbage. There isn't ONE thing in the linked video that suggests Bassett was disrespectful or bitter about losing. I like Bassett very much. Personally, I would rather see her win an actress Oscar, instead of a supporting award and I would like to see her win it for something more substantial than a character from a Marvel movie.

Where is this sudden adulation for Bassett's career coming from ? She does not have the body of work to justify it.

She’s a bitter black woman. Typical. Classic. It’s not about the color of your skin. It’s that another person did a better performance than you. Ughhhhhh!

R98, Neither does Burt Reynolds. Or Jaime Lee Curtis. But they got the "overdue" narrative.

Angela was in Boyz in the Hood, Malcolm X, What's Love Got to Do With It, Strange Days, Waiting to Exhale, and both Black Panther films. She is an audience favorite. Lots of stars get that kind of adulation just from longevity.

Who cares if she didn't stand for the old hag? She was disappointed big deal.

[quote]It’s that another person did a better performance than you.

Absolute horseshit.

[quote] So much for "women supporting women". AB really bought into the narrative that she was the front runner. She only won the Golden Globe because the HFPA were trying to prove they weren't racist.

And JLC only won the Oscar because she's a nepo baby and she was being rewarded for career achievement. She was not a standout in EEAAO, it was a routine sitcom performance. Stephanie Hsu gave a much stronger performance. JLC did NOT win because her performance merited an Oscar. She knows it, Angela knows it and the Academy knows it. JLC and Bassett were pitted against each other for a 'career achievement' Oscar and Bassett's career achievement is more impressive.

And I am a fan of both actors.

R76 Mo'Nique, Viola Davis, Octavia Spencer, Ariana DeBose, Regina King, Youn Yuh-jung, Lupita Nyong'o, Jennifer Hudson, and now Michelle Yeah have all won Oscars for acting within the last 17 years. Women of color most definitely have a seat at the table.

R104 Autocorrect changed Michelle Yeoh's name, but the point still remains.

It IS weird that Bassett doesn't have an Oscar. She was the next big thing when she first appeared on screen--but hasn't followed up with big roles. Viola Davis stole her thunder and all the roles she could have done well.

[quote] Angela was in Boyz in the Hood, Malcolm X, What's Love Got to Do With It, Strange Days, Waiting to Exhale, and both Black Panther films. She is an audience favorite. Lots of stars get that kind of adulation just from longevity.

Unfortunately, none of those particularly scream "Oscar" to anyone,

So long as any white person is nominated for any award in any category much less wins it, the Oscars are going to be considered racist.

"The Piano" is an excruciating watch. It’s one of those movies middlebrow people say they are OBSESSED with, in order to seem intelligent and serious.

Watching it is like being struck on the temple continuously by a ball-peen hammer.

Jamie Lee Curtis was GREAT in that movie. I totally thought she deserved the Oscar. On the other hand, Bassett just played her role as "I am regal."

Big Deal

I didn’t see the marvel shitfest in question, nor did I see “Everything” yet. But does anyone think the Oscar is anything other than a farce by now?

Isn't AB the highest paid actress on network television? That's a pretty soft pillow to sleep on at night.

Stephanie Hsu 100% should have won it.

"The Piano" won during the heyday of the art house film. It had a ton of buzz for everything from Jane Campion, a female New Zealand director to the child actress Anna Paquin who blew everyone away.

"What's Love Got To Do With It" the movie is nowhere near as well known as the actual song and if you Google it, a 2022 British comedy of the same name about an arranged marriage is what comes up first. The British film won some prizes at film festivals.

Was anyone predicting she would win? Everyone knew JLC was the favorite. I like Angela but she seems a bit delusional if she was really expecting them to call her name. She was nominated because of warm feelings for Chadwick Boseman, the #oscarssowhite debacle, and for being a decent actress who was overdue for a nod. That's it. She basically played the mom in a super hero franchise. She's a fool if she thought she was getting an Oscar for that.

Remember when it was "an honor just to be nominated?" Seems like everyone these days is a sore loser.

[quote] I just don’t know where the “Angels Bassett should have had an Oscar by now” narrative came from. She was worthy of the one nomination she had before this year, and that’s it.

She was WORTHY of several nominations for her 36 years of work, she only has two. In contrast, Jessica Chastain has 3 nominations and 1 Oscar with just 19 years in the business.

Yeah even black people poke fun at angela’s over-acting. Keke Palmer does a funny impression of her, likewise Golden Brooks on “Girlfriends” spoofing her line readings in Waiting to Exhale.

A fellow nominee taking the prize is not a "snub." It's an outcome, and one which 4 out of 5 nominees in every acting category experience every year.

Stephanie Hsu outdid JLC in every way imaginable and was a standout rivaling Michelle. This award has nothing to do with actual acting.

[quote] It IS weird that Bassett doesn't have an Oscar. She was the next big thing when she first appeared on screen--but hasn't followed up with big roles. Viola Davis stole her thunder and all the roles she could have done well.

No one stole Angela Bassett's roles or thunder. There is one role for every 5 Black actresses, and 5 roles for each white actress.

The trajectory of JLC's career is more perplexing -- white, rich and child of Hollywood royalty. Why was JLC begging for an Oscar at 64? She could have had Demi Moore's career 10 years before Demi Moore.

[quote] It's just an award. It's not real life or in any sense important.

It's real for them. That Oscar means more money for a working actor.

You mean Demi Moore's Oscar winning career, R120 ?

Kerry Condon (who was excellent) or Hong Chau deserved the award more than Basset, Curtis, or Hsu.

[quote] People aren't allowed to be disappointed now???

You don’t think the other nominees were disappointed they didn’t win? Cate looked disappointed yet clapped.

It’s stupid to call The Piano a classic and not What’s Love Got to Do With It when the latter film has a way bigger following and audience since its release.

Only a snooty old white person who’s been out of touch with pop culture for 30 years would dismiss What’s Love Got to Do With It.

R121 Only for up and coming or underappreciated actors. Some of those nominees are richer than God and have no problem getting good roles Oscar or not. It's just an ego thing for them.

JLC played the game and won. The others could have done the same.

R76 is just a troll. I doubt he’s even black.

We have to always remember that a lot of white DL members that were full blown adults during Jim Crow.

I agree with R115 and R82. As the years go by, I'm increasingly impatient with the winners--and that's most of them--who act as though an Oscar validates their entire lives and identities as well as their careers. It's just not that important! All that crying, trembling, and shouting up to heaven to their dead parents is absolutely bizarre if you understand that this is just an award for the best performances in the movies of a given year. It means almost nothing in reality.

I want to try to find some old Academy Awards presentations on YouTube if they have them, the ones from back in the day when awards were given out at a luncheon and the winners went up to the podium to say thank-you then went back to their seats.

The best performance in WLGTDWI was Laurence Fishburne anyway. I always wondered why the original song and the movie didn’t have a question mark at the end.

Tina turner getting beat vs holly hunter getting beat. Such fun! But ok! Let’s celebrate abused women R125 You mean educated right?

Angela's disappointment is downright understated compared to Helena Bonham Carter in the link at R96. She looks ready to punch the person next to her.

People are allowed to be bummed.

Jessica Lange losing to Sally Field in R96 is a hoot

[quote] You mean Demi Moore's Oscar winning career, [R120] ?

Her lucrative, high-profile career. Neither JLC or Demi are Oscar-worthy.

A palate cleanser!

I can’t tell if R76 is serious or satire? 🤔

R133 It doesn’t matter.

Look in any Oscar thread on DL. White people do not want black people at the Oscars. They think only white people deserve them and will dismiss the idea that most white nominated talent is mediocre although they have multiple threads about “undeserved Oscars” by category!

[quote] [R121] Only for up and coming or underappreciated actors. Some of those nominees are richer than God and have no problem getting good roles Oscar or not. It's just an ego thing for them.

That's very few, and doesn't apply to women. An Angela Bassett or JLC or Michelle Yeoh can expect a huge bump in their asking rate and it will impact how they are billed in a movie -- an Oscar gets them immediate second billing to the 31 year old white male Oscar-less star of the movie.

Did you miss my next sentence R124 ? Do you need an interpreter?

[quote] Do you know that not everyone processes disappointment the same way?

I don't think Demi Moore's career is anything to aspire to. She had a decent run for about 10 years then nothing for the past 25.

And not a single Oscar, or any major awards.

JLC is fine, I'm sure.

Sorry R139 did that happen to Mira Sorvino? Or Halle Berry?

[quote] and will dismiss the idea that most white nominated talent is mediocre

That’s simply not true. Many have said JLC should not have won. Others have stated Austin Butler and Fraser shouldn’t have been nominated as examples.

[quote] Viola Davis stole her thunder and all the roles she could have done well.

Because Miss Viola wasn't afraid to deglamorize herself whereas Miss Bassett consistently chose roles where she looked fabulous, so now she's more of a star than an actress.

A black actor losing to a white actor isn't always racism. I agree that Bassett did a fairly standard performance as the stately mother figure in a genre movie--those often aren't rewarded even with a nomination. Her lack of graciousness shows entitlement and poor manners, which won't win her any fans for future performances that might be more award worthy.

A black actor losing to a white actor isn't always racism, but what's racism is white DLers criticizing her just for looking sad. How dare she be uppity!!!

R55, that's been covered ad nauseum following the nominations announcement. Keep up, granny.

How have we reached a point where it’s default racism if a black actress doesn’t get an award nomination or does get a nomination and doesn’t then win?

[quote] Stephanie Hsu 100% should have won it.

I thought she was the weakest link in that movie and was surprised she was nominated at all.

JL Curtis hasn't done many "Oscar worthy" rolls. No matter how great you are in an action movie or a family comedy, you're likely not getting nominated.

Do "Oscar worthy" rolls come with butter?

R100 "Angela was in Boyz in the Hood, Malcolm X, What's Love Got to Do With It, Strange Days, Waiting to Exhale, and both Black Panther films..."

Angela needs a good slap to adjust that attitude. Where's Will when you need him?

If you look at the link at R96, Angela has a better poker face than a lot of other losers.

She was considered for the role of "Storm" in X-Men, she would be excellent in it, bit it went to Halle Berry because she was younger. I always think she was bitter about that, not only for missing a big paycheck, a blockbuster franchise could really elevate her profile, she has everything but she needs a movie like that to broaden her appeal and reach a much larger audience.

R107

[quote]Unfortunately, none of those particularly scream "Oscar" to anyone,

And how many of JLC's roles do? Yet she still got the "it's about time" narrative.

r19, so all she did was not react? She didn't go around slapping people, boo the winner, or storm out? How absolutely scandalous and vicious of her.

r97, DL trolls have a bazaar obsession with Black people. There's definitely Blacked or Ebony porn on their drives and in their browser bookmarks.

r119, I agree!! Hsu should have won that category hands down. There was nothing impressive about JLC's performance. It felt like they gave her that award for her career and not because of the performance she actually gave.

I cannot stand JLC. But I also hate sore losers. AB not clapping was shitty and I doubt it went unnoticed in HW. I wake up to dozens of think pieces and internet idiots defending her right to be a sore loser. If JLC lost and didn’t clap she would be immediately canceled and accused of racism, yet AB can act like an asshole and is celebrated. This is where we are socially and people are getting tired of it.

[quote]And JLC only won the Oscar because she's a nepo baby and she was being rewarded for career achievement. She was not a standout in EEAAO, it was a routine sitcom performance. Stephanie Hsu gave a much stronger performance. JLC did NOT win because her performance merited an Oscar. She knows it, Angela knows it and the Academy knows it. JLC and Bassett were pitted against each other for a 'career achievement' Oscar and Bassett's career achievement is more impressive.

BULLSHIT! JLC is a legend in her own right. Halloween, The Fog, True Lies, A Fish Called Wanda, Trading Places- how many films of Bassetts can you name? Yes, black people are often underrepresented, but Curtis made a name for herself in genre that's often ignored. Plus, what's the child of two actors meant to do, R103? Shoot themselves? Would that make you happy??? Heaven forbid someone should win for career achievement, as opposed to a Marvel film whose lead actor dropped dead and then lost out on a posthumous Oscar.

Bassett's stone face will never beat Sally KIrkland's reaction to Cher winning over her.

[quote] Bassett's stone face will never beat Sally KIrkland's reaction to Cher winning over her.

Did Kirkland even think for a second that she had a chance?

R159 Freaky Friday, she was excellent in it and should be nominated for Oscar, but a teen comedy would not be taken seriously by the critics.

If a black woman or Asian woman won with that mediocre performance JLC gave all of DL would be saying “she only won because she’s black” “she only won because she’s Asian” “it was a diversity win”

But when JLC wins it DL is all “she deserved it” “she campaigned for it” 
“it was a legacy win”

So race is only brought up in one case of mediocrity but not the other? Hypocrites.

And for the record I don’t think Angela deserved it either. Based on ACTING alone it should have gone to Stephanie Hsu.

R162 please be joking

I don't see your logic, R139. An actor's salary is correlated to how much producers think they can boost a movie's box office. If you win and Oscar but your next movie(s) flop, you're back at square one. Look at Jane Fonda and Sally Field's filmographies after their second Oscars...Roll Over, Agnes of God, Old Gringo (bomb x3) for Jane, who doesn't even have top billing in 80 for Brady. Sally went from playing Tom Hanks' girlfriend in Punchline (1988) to his mother in Forrest Gump (1994) along with other assorted thankless mom roles in the '90s like Mrs. Doubtfire.

R164 no you are an embarrassment, actually I was a bit wrong, JLC was praised by many critics for her performance in Freaky Friday, and she was nominated for Golden Globe, it was not totally unnoticed.

To add to R165, there is an often-mentioned "curse" that follows Best Actress winners in particular.

Renee Zellweger has an erratic history and doesn't act steadily so the win for Judy was never about making a comeback as an A-lister

R163 Mostly it’s “she was rubbish, she didn’t deserve it”, “she’s a nepo baby so didn’t deserve it”, “she stole Angela Bassett’s Oscar ”, “she’s old so fuck her”, “Activia shits!”.

R163 And if it was Angela Bassett who won, Jamie would've smiled, applauded, and perhaps even screamed and cheered.

Walk the Line was as good if not better than What's Love Got To Do With It.

R78 Angela won at the Critics Choice and Golden Globes. Condon won at BAFTA and JLC at SAG. Angela had reason to feel optimistic if you’re going by numbers. Sometimes it’s a numbers game with nominees (Quan), sometimes it’s momentum in the final stretch. The momentum shifted to Curtis. There were shots of Bassett smiling at the ceremony later. I’m sure it stung to lose for a minute or so, and she couldn’t compose herself in time, but she got over it. Angela has lost the Emmy 9 times. NINE. Not her first time at the rodeo. Life goes on.

I think the first time I saw her is in Waiting to Exhale. She was supposed to be the best actress amongst the cast but I thought she just kept chewing the scenery all throughout the movie. And from the clips I've seen from Wakanda, she's still at it.

I’ll say Angela Bassett looked beautiful-in spite of the ‘tude etc …

[quote] most white nominated talent is mediocre

That’s the new narrative, that white people’s output in general is mediocre, but that doesn’t make it true. Black actors not being recognized doesn’t make white actors who were mediocre.

Someone mentioned Laurence Fisburne above. He’s an example of a black actor that will never get his due. He is a phenomenal actor, but where the hell is he? Why doesn’t he act more?

She's delusional if she ever thought she was going to win for a comic book movie. I wonder if she regrets turning down Monster's Ball now. That could have been her up there on stage with Jessica Chastain instead of that overrated Halle Berry, who Hollywood tried to make a star out of for years only to give up and trot around every so often.

Like EEAAO isn’t a “comic book” movie

How DARE, DARE she look momentarily bummed

R175 he does. Look up his IMDb. Fishburne has won the Tony and Emmy, but his focus has shifted to mainly paycheck character roles. Fishburne never had the looks to have a Denzel type career, so he wisely chose character parts that I’m sure pay well.

To be fair to Ms Bassett, it’s hard to emote through that much botox and filler.

I used to like Bassett until I read how often she's shaded the winners between Jamie Lee and Holly Hunter. Whoopi Goldberg is the same with the same she criticized Geraldine Page and said she would never watch her movie. The only reason Viola never pulled the same stunt is because she doesn't want to rile up Meryl.

Thanks for the info r179. I should have looked him up on IMDB but I didn’t think of it.

Plus didn’t Anjelica Huston say in her autobiography that Oprah snubbed her after the Oscars when Huston beat her in 1986 and never had her on her show? Something like that. Even then Oprah thought she was the center of the world.

Not from the Academy's perspective, R177.

Apparently, the only way to win an Acting Oscar for a comic book role is to play the Joker. Even then, I think the only reason Ledger won was because of his untimely death and the only reason Phoenix won was because Ledger's win set a precedence for winning for that role and to also make up for his loss in The Master, in particular. It's helpful that both performances were demonstrably transformative. Otherwise, comic book movies only get awards for sound mixing and the like.

Bassett should have an Oscar! RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.

R183 Good point, Anjelica also said that at parties Oprah would ignore her.

Nia Long of all people claimed James Cameron refused to hire her for Avatar. Like apparently her name should have been enough to get her every starring role.

Oprah hates white people. Especially thin blonde women.

Black people hate White people. Period.

Also, it doesn't seem like Bassett played the game. The Academy makes everyone play the game (unless the nominee is dead or dying, and even then the studio has to play the game). Even Leo had to crawl on his knees for years on end to get his (pity?) award.

Angela Bassett and the whole Wakanda crew need to lighten up. A sense of humour goes a long way. They’re so serious all the time.

And after BAFTAs and SAG, Angela Bassett had a lot of time to consider the possibility she wasn’t going to win. That sour face when JLC was unnecessary and as ungenerous as JLC’s undergarments!

It's ridiculous that it took until 2001 for a black actress to win Best Actress. Diana Ross, Diahann Carroll, Whoopi Goldberg and Angela Bassett were all worthy of winning the award.

R192 is clearly not Jada because her name would have surfaced as well then. Must be Will's account.

i swear this bitch is 2 much,

she was a dayplayer in a disney superhero flick,

& she thinks she is heir apparent 4 oscar?

b4 tar?

bitch please

The amount of entitlement she feels for 5 minutes of screentime in a comic book movie sequel is nonsensical. Angela needs to take a reality check and consider that maybe her tude is why she doesn't get any substantial roles anymore and is rotting away on network TV.

R178 that isn’t the issue. It’s that she failed to clap for the winner. She can have her face be disappointed and still clap. She deliberately declined to clap.

R196 She also refused to stand up when everyone else gave Jamie Lee a standing ovation. Notice that all the lead actress nominees stood up for Michelle. All the supporting actor nominees stood up for Key Huy Quan. Same with Brendan. Can you imagine the reactions if Cate had refused to stand for Michelle? It's considered a basic courtesy which Angela refused to extend and she's rightfully being dragged for that.

So is "the thing" is sourpuss, bad sportsmanship cuntitude?

R192 no way was Diana Ross getting an Oscar over Liza in Cabaret. Maybe if an actual filmmaker had directed Lady Sings the Blues instead of Berry Gordy. And Diahann Carroll over Ellen Burstyn in Alice doesn’t Live Here Anymore? Are you high, Clairee?

R192 None of those women had a chance. There was always a superior performance. In what world would anyone award Whoopi over Geraldine Page, Anne Bancroft, Jessica Lange, and Meryl Streep?

R197 go back and watch. Bassett eventually stood. You have to keep your eyes peeled, but she did.

The link at R96 has plenty of examples of worse losers than Angela. Unclench your fucking pearls

Bassett has been on Broadway r58. Three times. Most recently in 2012 or 2013. She probably thought she deserved the Toni for that piece of crap “TheMountaintop.“ Didn’t get a nomination.

R181, Viola never directly criticized Meryl's Oscar win for The Iron Lady, but compared losing for The Help that year to falling from a 100-story building. Diana Ross was also in tears after losing to Liza Minnelli in 1972; I think black actresses tend to take the losses harder because the likelihood of them scoring another nomination is statistically so low.

R192, I do think several of the black actresses you mentioned got really unlucky with their timing. Move Diana Ross or Cicely Tyson to 1973, the year Glenda Jackson won her second Oscar in a very vague field, and they would have stood a much better chance at winning. Whoopi Goldberg had the misfortune of going up against Geraldine Page, a beloved figure among actors, on her eighth nomination without a win in a highly emotional role. Bassett's first Oscar bid was in a stacked year -- move What's Love to 1994 and she likely would have swept over Jessica Lange, whose film had little passion behind it and was four years old by the time of the Oscars ceremony in 1995.

She’s canceled

R204 great points. Hear hear.

Come on… she’ll get lots of mileage out of this. She’ll be the talk of the town every awards season when they replay her as part of the ungracious losers memes…

R204 Funny how Viola disavows The Help now and claims she regrets making that movie. I guarantee that had she won the Oscar for it, she'd talk about how trailblazing a movie it was for all black women (meaning herself). Everytime she trashes the movie, she forgets that her co-star Octavia Spencer actually did win for it and she's badmouthing her performance. This is why I prefer Octavia and Alfre Woodard over Viola and now Angela. The former two have class and Alfre is far more deserving of being an Oscar winner.

[quote]no way was Diana Ross getting an Oscar over Liza in Cabaret.

Liza was basically playing herself in Cabaret. She also won in large part because of sentimentality over Judy's recent passing and the fact that she never won an oscar. Performance wise, Diana, Cicely and Liv wrapped rings around Minnelli. Liza was much stronger in The Sterile Cuckoo.

Don't even get me started on Joel Grey winning over Pacino?! Ridiculous.

Completely agree about timing, R204.

I can't wait to hear what Whopee has to say about this.

"Angela Bassett didn't refuse-refuse."

R209 sure, but Diana didn't really build up good will withe the Academy. As a producer of the movie later called to the Reporter: “Berry Gordy spent so much money on ads for Diana Ross, he antagonized the entire Academy. It was so overwhelming, everyone was commenting on it. And for that reason, she lost best actress to Liza Minnelli. Liza’s performance in Cabaret was good, but nothing compared to what Diana did in our movie.”

I get why she was upset. I think Jamie had some Andrea Riensseomething pull that helped her win. And that would piss me off. POC don't have that in Hollywood. She had every right to be upset and I won't go into what she should have done in regard to the ovation. She was disappointed. Shit hurts sometimes and you can't hide it. I'm sure after some time she'll get over it. I didn't mind JLC winning but the playing field will never be even. In 95 years only 2 women of color have ever won best actress.

yes, i know it was for supporting actress. just making a point.

Bitch had 2 months to rehearse a mild clap and a smile if she didn't win. Her stance is the final proof she can't act.

She needs to be cancelled for her ableist remarks about Holly Hunter and how her performance in The Piano wasn't real acting because she was a mute. I wonder how bitch feels knowing that Troy Kotsur and Marlee Matlin are both bonafide Oscar winners for "mute" performances and she'll probably never be one.

Actors take the Oscars far too seriously. It’s all a big wank and they should just focus on the actual work rather than the plaudits. It’s all a bit pathetic and hard to work up much excitement or sympathy for the poor millionaires.

If she's such a great actress, why couldn't Miss Bassett simply appear to be gracious for 10 freaking seconds?

R218 She's not, she always plays herself

I don't think the public knows what that Oscar means.....to us. It is one of the most emotional things that can ever happen to a human being.

Angela Bassett reminds me a little of Viola Davis in that they appear to be greater than they really are. They're good at playing dramatic roles and angry roles but they don't have a lot of range. They're rather one-note.

Also, Angela was in some really great films in the '90s - Boyz in the Hood, Malcolm X, What's Love Got To Do With It, Waiting to Exhale and Strange Days - but by the '00s, what roles did she really excel in? She moved to TV primarily with ER and 911. Jamie Lee has had a much more consistent film career.

I would gladly trade my youngest for an Oscar but that royal whore slept with everyone in Hollywood to take it from me

She stood up eventually. Much ado about nothing. Moving on...

She should follow Michelle Wiliams example. When Michelle Y took the stage and received her award Michelle W smiled and applauded. That's good sportsmanship.

No, that's good acting R224

[quote] Sorry [R139] did that happen to Mira Sorvino? Or Halle Berry?

For Halle, definitely yes! Halle's quote went so high very few would pay it. She got above the title billing in "Catwoman." She headlined "Gothika", "Things We Lost In the Fire", "Dark Tide" and a whole bunch of other crappy movies. She'll never win another Oscar but she'll never, ever be broke.

See also, Jennifer Connelly, Reese Witherspoon, Charlize Theron, Emma Stone, Brie Larson, etc.

She has an entire breed of dogs named after her, that’s more important than an Oscar!!!

[quote] BULLSHIT! JLC is a legend in her own right. Halloween, The Fog, True Lies, A Fish Called Wanda, Trading Places- how many films of Bassetts can you name? Yes, black people are often underrepresented, but Curtis made a name for herself in genre that's often ignored. Plus, what's the child of two actors meant to do, [R103]? Shoot themselves? Would that make you happy??? Heaven forbid someone should win for career achievement, as opposed to a Marvel film whose lead actor dropped dead and then lost out on a posthumous Oscar.

For the DUMB ASS at r159. I am very familiar with JLC's filmography. I stated that I was a fan of both actors. I love JLC in the "Halloween" series, in particular, but I would hesitate to call JLC a legend. Under almost any other circumstances I would be thrilled by her win. She is deserving of an Oscar just not this one this year.

I am ALSO familiar with Angela Bassett's filmography -- and unlike you and AMPAS -- I don't disregard a film just because it has Black themes or content, or a majority Black cast. Angela Bassett is a marvelous actress and she is incandescent onscreen. She is as obvious a victim of Hollywood racism (and sexism) as any actor in history, though not the only one. She was not allowed the opportunity to compete for roles that the majority culture would laud as important or "Oscar-worthy."

I love EEAAO! I applaud its win in every category except Supporting Actress. JLC did not win the award based on her performance, Hsu was more deserving for her acting but I would argue that Hsu should have the Oscar instead of JLC. JLC won because her peers wanted her to have it, she is keenly aware of that and there's nothing wrong with it. Remarkably, JLC and AB are the same age. As a 64 year old white woman, JLC is10 times more likely than AB to get another role that can garner Oscar attention. Despite her talent, and only because she is Black, AB is not as likely to get another film role that Academy voters will regard as anything other than a "Black" movie undeserving of Oscar attention.

I'm getting exhausted over this black entitlement horseshit. No one should get nominated or win something just because they are a certain skin color, and it sure feels like that is what is going on lately. If you did a fine acting job, directing, editing, or WHATEVER the fuck you did for a film, great -- get nominated, win, what the fuck ever. I'm sick of the whining.

R229 honey, losers of every race pout.

She is a hard-working actress and thoroughly decent person. (Yes, I met her: it’s a long story that I don’t need to tell.) she had every right to express her disappointment.

So for this year’s Oscars everyone is starting a new thread for every little thought they have? How novel.

All predictions had it coming down to Jamie Lee or Angela. The other women knew they didn't have a shot.

I pulled up the extended trailer for Wakanda, see attached. This is nothing as I expected. I'm surprised she was nominated. Disclaimer - I'm not a fan of this genre of film. These Marvel movies have never been my cuppa tea. The silly accent doesn't help much either.

She does angry well.

R231 Of course she has every right to express her disappointment. It's just unfortunate that she did it in an ugly, and very public manner. It has a lot of tongues wagging, and not in a very nice way.

weird that people are shitting on THE PIANO. Schindler's List is the only movie that could have beat it. Would've won most other years

Come to think of it, the cinematography might be some of the best that had ever been done to that point. There's a gloominess and glow to it that has been done a lot since, but may not be all that well represented before.

And the score is haunting.

She was bitter about Halle Berry's Oscar too saying she would never have done a part like that so she turned down the role. The producers deny ever offering her the part.

Jamie is still on Cloud 9, because she's posting on Instagram at 8:30pm LA time, which is way past her usual bedtime. She just can't get over the fact that she won an actual Oscar. I'm so happy for her.

Jane Campion didn’t credit the novel that inspired the Piano, very shady.

JLC was very thirsty for that Oscar. So much so that it was off-putting. And, both JLC and AB didn’t deserve the nomination.

How about a white dude not instructing a black woman on how to act?

Jamie Lee's exuberance over finally becoming an Oscar winner was reason enough for her to win.

R241 how about a black woman dropping the angry all the fucking time attitude .It doesnt endear. I love Angela Basset but that was a shitty move. Quite beneath her. She's better than that.

After her attitude today, there will not be anyone in Hollywood who will be interested in giving Angela more roles let alone nominations. She pretty much kissed her career goodbye from one moment of undue anger. Expect to see her relegated to Tyler Perry movies after Ryan Murphy gets tired of her.

[quote] her pretentious husband hasn't done anything of note since Waiting for Guffman.

"Best In Show," R20?

Angela should have wanted it more!

A comic book movie? Can you imagine?

R244 unclunth your pearls, twat.

[quote] Bassett wasnt ANGRY. She was disappointed. Sorry, she’s a human.

Bassett had monumental expectations that based on her skin color, she was owed. Her reaction was anger resultant from those unfulfilled racist monumental expectations.

[quote]They described the person without staring the name until the end. I was so sure it was me that I started to get up when they said "and the award goes to"... and they announced another name.

Let’s caucus, R68.

Poor Angela.

The Piano, to me, is one of the most depressing, dreary films I have ever seen. I feel the same way about Glengarry Glen Ross. Both movies feature people in dire straits whose lives are being dictated by people who lack empathy.

R228 I’m sorry but when you say “she is as obvious a victim of Hollywood racism (and sexism)” are you saying that with a straight face? Do you honestly think we should be boo-hooing for a multimillionaire with a career and longevity most actors would kill for? Some perspective please!

Since this wasn’t some pre-announced, honorary award, Angela Bassett should’ve been well prepared for it to go somebody else’s way - especially since many observers concerned it a 3- or 4-way race. Her handlers should’ve prepared her for that.

You don’t go into that auditorium needing or wanting an Oscar.

Even Kerry Condon had a slight look of “Oh, that’s that” relief because after all those months of campaigning, it must be a difficult moment to navigate but that’s why you clap - to get through it and move on.

*considered it

Sour Patch Kids face!

I've always really liked Angela, but after seeing her act so demonstrably bitter over JLC's win on Sunday, I'm rethinking things.

Has Sheryl Lee Ralph commented?

I never forget Angela Bassett is Angela Bassett in everything I've seen her in. Even the one movie I like of hers. It's a popularity contest. Maybe she's a bitch. Seems so from her bad manners.

At r256, has she removed teefs???

Glenn Close, Sigourney Weaver, Michelle Pfeiffer, & Annette Bening haven't won Oscars either, after multiple nominations. And they have been in show biz as long or longer than Angela Bassett.

R261 They don't count for a very obvious reason.

We were Team Angela!

After seeing Jamie Lee Curtis gushing and gloating and mugging on Hoda this morning, I have moved into Angela Basset’s corner. I brought my fainting couch and snacks.

JLC saying she only wanted to win because it would make her friends happy? Angela was right.

[quote] Plus didn’t Anjelica Huston say in her autobiography that Oprah snubbed her after the Oscars when Huston beat her in 1986 and never had her on her show? Something like that. Even then Oprah thought she was the center of the world.

Why would anyone rush to get Anjelica Huston on their talk show. She's pretty much a nobody

I think she's doing "the thing" at r256!

Angela Bassett: Proud Patterson

The word I keep seeing about Angela deserving to win is that she was "overdue." Is that code for something else? Frankly, I don't either she or JLC were overdue... but Curtis campaigned like she was running for public office. And won. While BOTH Bassett and JLC have done good work, they don't have the resumes that Oscar-less Close, Weaver, Bening, or Pfeiffer have...

R264 I turned it off when they were introducing JLC on Today. Can’t take that manic energy first thing in the morning.

[quote] Black people hate White people. Period.

and white people are all hugs and kisses to everyone else....

Everybody block Jada Plinko Smith at r76.

Someone needs to cast Angela Bassett in a really good film with a meaty, emotional role so she can win one next year. She really does deserve it.

If no one's pointed it out yet to r197, the standing ovations for all the winners last night were an unusual occurrence that doesn't usually happen at the Oscars, so Bassett wouldn't have been blamed at all if she hadn't stood (which she ultimately did). Given that it was still early in the night and only the third award, there was no reason for her to know everyone was going to stand for everything.

It's racism, pure and simple.

Can someone please write a script about an alcoholic woman who lives in the projects, but who gets sober, turns her life around, and becomes the CEO of her own hair weave company?

Because Angela really, really wants an Oscar next year.

[quote]Sorry [[R139]] did that happen to Mira Sorvino? Or Halle Berry?

Mira’s career ranked because Harvey Weinstein blacklisted her.

And Halle Berry’s flamed out because she’s batshit crazy and nobody can work with her.

R275 Weaving to Sobriety

R275, she'll have to go through Glenn Close first, starring as the 50-year old battling breast and cervical cancer who in the middle of her Supreme Court case on voting rights helps her trans grandchild learn the true meaning of life. Glenn will also sing the theme.

R276 Weinstein did not “blacklist” Sorvino, she’s worked steadily since Mighty Aphrodite, she’s just not good or interesting…

R278 50? Come on, even Glenn is that good of an actress to be able to pull of 50.

Tell that to Glenn, she's standing in the middle of Sunset Blvd.

Angela Bassett overacts in everything she does, I find her painful to watch.

That is not overacting. Even though she knows she is delivering yet another best performance of the year, Oscars so white has already made it futile. You are seeing her truth trauma.

R282 *flashes back to the "Or did you think we made babies by ourselves?" scene in Boyz n the Hood*

R283 "Truth trauma."

Okay, that's gotta be the funniest thing I'll read today.

[quote] Even though she knows she is delivering yet another best performance of the year, You are seeing her truth trauma.

R283 What she knows, believes or thinks is irrelevant in any competition. Bassett had expectations and was livid when they were unfulfilled.

All these people are likely practitioners of the gratitude bullshit. Where's hers? She's worked in well over a hundred productions. She's done better than most. (And before you call me a racist I wish JLC would tone it down. It's just a fucking prize.)

R265 that’s a stupid statement. Huston is an Oscar winner, multiple nominee and respected actress. Far from being a nobody. Just because Oprah can’t get over the fact she lost the Oscar, then fuck her.

There's no need to debate whether Weinstein blacklisted Sorvino. If he told Peter Jackson not to hire her, he made the same warnings to other directors.

R289 as the Sony email hack plainly demonstrated, studio execs badmouth actors ALL. THE. TIME. That is not “blacklisting.” Peter Jackson knew Weinstein was a piece of shit, why did he listen to him when all of the other directors who have cast Sorvino since 1995 did not??

Sorvino toiling in garbage projects while being removed from consideration for prestige work at Weinstein's behest isn't compelling evidence that the attempted blacklist didn't work.

[quote]Weinstein did not “blacklist” Sorvino, she’s worked steadily since Mighty Aphrodite, she’s just not good or interesting…

THANK you—

Angela can now go back to cameos in Ryan Murphy shows. I'm looking forward to her 2-episode appearance in season 59 of American Horror Story.

Sore loser! Get over it, lady, move on!

Hollywood was ready to turn Sorvino into a star but chose some REALLY bad films after her Oscar win. Mimic, The Replacement Killers, At First Sight. I'm not saying Weinstein didn't mess with her but he wasn't the sole reason for her career decline like she likes to insinuate these days. If anything, her then-boyfriend Tarantino was more to blame. He apparently coaxed her into doing Mimic and The Replacement Killers.

Sorvino made a creepy movie with pedophile Allen where he basically hits on a woman half his age. This is how she got her start, playing a porn star. Anything else could only be a leg up.

Anjelica later said that appearing on the Tony Danza Show more than made up for being snubbed by Oprah.

[quote] She should follow Michelle Wiliams example. When Michelle Y took the stage and received her award Michelle W smiled and applauded. That's good sportsmanship.

Michelle Williams is white, 42 years old and has FIVE Oscar nominations. She KNOWS she'll get nominated again and will eventually win. That's not sportsmanship, it's Hollywood's white privilege.

Also R298 every prediction had it being either Angela or Jamie. Nobody expected Michelle Williams to win R224

[quote] I'm getting exhausted over this black entitlement horseshit..

How do you feel about white privilege?! Try being exhausted by something that actually exists and maybe you won't live long enough to bore the rest of us.

R298 That may have applied a few years ago but judging from the multitude of Black-themed or starred films nowadays, it's quite likely that Miss Bassett could be nominated again. As for White people being nominated or winning just because they're White, there's a number of actors who were nominated multiple times and never won - Barbara Stanwyck, Natalie Wood, Richard Burton, Glenn Close and, yes, Michelle Williams.

The problem with Bassett is that she's not that great an actress and most of her work is for the dough. She continues to choose Mission Impossible-type jobs that pay well but don't require much of her, and then she bombastically proceeds to chew up the scenery in scene after scene.

[quote] Bassett had monumental expectations that based on her skin color, she was owed. Her reaction was anger resultant from those unfulfilled racist monumental expectations.

Whoever you are, you are nauseatingly racist.

[quote]Michelle Williams is white, 42 years old and has FIVE Oscar nominations. She KNOWS she'll get nominated again and will eventually win.

Tell that to Glenn Close.

[quote] The problem with Bassett is that she's not that great an actress and most of her work is for the dough. She continues to choose Mission Impossible-type jobs that pay well but don't require much of her, and then she bombastically proceeds to chew up the scenery in scene after scene.

??? She's an exceptional actress. Do you think that Angela Bassett competes with Julianne Moore, Michelle Pfeiffer and Annette Bening for roles?! She takes the jobs that she is offered.

It is disheartening for her, and for me, that her work is viewed exclusively through the lens of race. Are Cate Blanchett and Olivia Colman and Jessica Lange as "bombastic" when they chew the scenery? Isn't it great that that are offered such a wide variety of roles that some don't even require scenery-chewing? I agree, I would love for Angela Bassett -- a graduate of Yale School of Drama -- to be offered a role other than bad-ass, take charge, scenery-chewing Black woman.

The Bassett loon would have a point if this was 1083 but since 2010 14 of the 56 acting Oscars handed out have been awarded to people of color

Just not Angela Bassett

Maybe she's not as good as you think she is

Hell Regina King, little Brenda from 227 has an Oscar

Or maybe because of her attitude, Hollywood, including black Hollywood as they vote too, just don't like her

It is a popularity contest and Angela is famous for talking crap about other black actresses, even Halle Berry ran up to Jamie Lee after she won in the press room and hugged her and told her how she knew she would win

I fucking hated The Piano. I was promised Sam Neill dong and I got Harvey Keitel dong instead!!! 😡

The Piano has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.

[quote] [R275], she'll have to go through Glenn Close first, starring as the 50-year old battling breast and cervical cancer who in the middle of her Supreme Court case on voting rights helps her trans grandchild learn the true meaning of life. Glenn will also sing the theme.

And she will deserve the win. The Oscars' credibility actually suffers from Frances McDormand having THREE acting awards and Glenn Close having none.

If only we can dissuade Glenn from singing the theme song...

McDormand shouldn’t have three.

[quote] I would love for Angela Bassett -- a graduate of Yale School of Drama -- to be offered a role other than bad-ass, take charge, scenery-chewing Black woman.

She was offered the role that won Hallee her Oscar and turned it down. I wonder how many other parts that didn't pay her asking price she turned down.

Angela and Madonna were both born Aug. 16/1958. And they both did the thing.

[quote] The Bassett loon would have a point if this was 1083 but since 2010 14 of the 56 acting Oscars handed out have been awarded to people of color Just not Angela Bassett Maybe she's not as good as you think she is Hell Regina King, little Brenda from 227 has an Oscar Or maybe because of her attitude, Hollywood, including black Hollywood as they vote too, just don't like her

It is a popularity contest and Angela is famous for talking crap about other black actresses, even Halle Berry ran up to Jamie Lee after she won in the press room and hugged her and told her how she knew she would win

The first sign of trouble is that you typed "black" instead of "Black."

Helen Hunt, Emma Stone, Brie Larson, Charlize Theron and Renee Zelleweger have Oscars. Glenn Close, Laura Linney and Annette Bening do not. So yes, winning an Oscar is not about acting or talent. If your insinuation is that Bassett has a problematic "attitude" offscreen that is complete bullshit. She is a professional actor, not a professional kiss-ass.

You're so fucking tedious, R312, and you're making no difference at all. If anything, you stand in the way.

R312 nah dude it's black just like white, if I were to say African American than you use capital letters

And again even other minority actors in Hollywood don't like her attitude, it IS a popularity contest too, you could be the best actor in the world and if your peers who vote on the Oscars don't like you personally, they're not gonna vote for you

The end

[quote] You're so fucking tedious, [R312], and you're making no difference at all. If anything, you stand in the way.

Making a difference...

Stand in the way...

What the fuck are YOU talking about?!!!

[quote] The end

Your end, maybe.

R315, it means your blathering doesn't change any minds. You're just as tedious here as you are in the real world, where you get your anger. You lost. Deal.

Angela Bassett is the new Glenn Close.

Jamie Lee needs to do the right thing and hand over her statuette to Angela.

People are taking this way too far now. It's a fucking trophy. Twitter and these media outlets are acting like it's as big an injustice to black people as George Zimmerman and Emmett Till's killers being found not guilty in court.

This another Crash moment at Hermes!

[quote] Are Cate Blanchett and Olivia Colman and Jessica Lange as "bombastic" when they chew the scenery?

Actually, those three rarely "chew scenery" unless it's demanded by the campy tone of the story but Angela seems to think she's always playing the Queen projecting to the back of the auditorium. And that Marilyn Monroe-ish thing she tries to do with her lips - not working.

"Angela Bassett is the new Glenn Close."

Er, nope. Bassett was only nominated for an Oscar twice. Glenn 8.

Thank you, R320.

The greatest acting snub was not awarding the Best Actress Oscar to Gloria Swanson for "Sunset Boulevard" (and it WAS a snub), topped by the "Citizen Kane" hate squad killing it and deflecting Welles' presumptive career track.

Ms. Bassett's defenders are behaving like spoiled, needy children. Fuck spoiled, needy children.

This is all ridiculous. I think Angela will bring home an Emmy before an Oscar, considering she does more tv, and she’s on her ninth nomination. I’m sure Angela has gotten over it. It’s time to move on. What’s done is done.

Go, JLC!!!!

Bassett didn't win any actual industry awards. Golden Globes and Critics Choice aren't voted on industry members. She lost BAFTA and SAG, which are actual industry awards which has voter overlap with the Academy. That sucks that those meaningless awards gave her the false frontrunner status and got her (and others) hopes up but that's how it goes sometimes.

Entitled bitch!

Shoo, go away!

[quote] The greatest acting snub was not awarding the Best Actress Oscar to Gloria Swanson for "Sunset Boulevard" (and it WAS a snub

I know this is off-topic but why was Swanson snubbed?

[quote] [R315], it means your blathering doesn't change any minds. You're just as tedious here as you are in the real world, where you get your anger. You lost. Deal.

Well, Constance, my "blathering" has made you feel special enough to think that your voice matters.

You're welcome...

After seeing EEAO, I was left impressed by the performance of the actress who played the IRS agent, and did an internet search to find out who it was. I was totally shocked to find out it was Jamie Lee Curtis.

Bassett is a one-dimensional actress who can't do nuance. Like the secret Oscar voter said, she always talks loudly in a faux British accent in an attempt to sound like a great Shakespearean actor, but just ends up sounding silly. Jamie isn't the best actress in Hollywood, but she can do nuance and can play a wider range of characters.

R330, try harder. Come on. Jesus, what a waste of skin and welfare.

Both Bassett and Cate were robbed

Everyone knows this was a belated win for JLC for her Activia commercials.

[quote]Twitter and these media outlets are acting like it's as big an injustice to black people as George Zimmerman and Emmett Till's killers being found not guilty in court.

Blacks need to fucking get over themselves.

[quote]Bassett didn't win any actual industry awards. Golden Globes and Critics Choice aren't voted on industry members. She lost BAFTA and SAG, which are actual industry awards which has voter overlap with the Academy.

And the reason she didn’t get any “industry” awards… is because her peers know she’s an entitled, insufferable bitch. They’d rather vote for people they like.

I can think of someone who is four times the loser, at least, that dear Angela is.

Sing it, M! Better you than her...

R329 she was in a extremely tight 3 way race with Bette Davis-All About Eve and Judy Holliday-Born Yesterday, with Holliday ultimately winning.

R329 Davis and Swanson were both veteran actresses playing roles when they're out of their prime and thus split the vote. Similarly Davis and Anne Baxter split the vote as well.

Another factor for Bette was that she had made a lot of enemies in Hollywood and didn't have the best relationship with her movie crews from WB so they weren't going to vote for her. She's lucky that she won both Oscars early on in her career because she was never going to win another by the 40s when she became more assertive and more of a diva. It's the same reason Judy Garland lost for A Star is Born because she had two studios actively voting against her (WB and MGM). Joan Crawford's victory for Mildred Pierce was in part because both WB and MGM were championing her, WB as her current studio and MGM feeling they owed her and Joan having had good relationships with everyone she worked with.

With Swanson, the Academy wasn't interested in awarding an actress who hadn't been steadily working since the 20s and who probably wouldn't be working much afterwards again either.

If they don't automatically hand Oscars to black actors every year for whatever movie they're in good or bad you're worse than Hitler!

Damn, poor Angela Bassett has now lost one Best Actress Oscar and later one Best Supporting Actress Oscar.

This is outrageous and has never happened to anyone other actress, even an actress wasa top box-office draw for a decade and who'd been working steadily since she was a toddler!

No one will remember Angela 50 years later.

"What's Angela Got To Do With It?" --JLC

Perhaps, Angela will get some yogurt commercials and win an Oscar in the next few years.

DL loves to hate on black women, whether Angela had won or lost. DL sissies would have words for her

[quote]DL loves to hate on black women, whether Angela had won or lost. DL sissies would have words for her

Guess who else loves to hate on black women? Angela Bassett.

Tough luck, R347.

Maybe Angela should do a remake of The Wife.

I never saw monsters ball. Why was the role so degrading? Was Halle’s character a prostitute? Or was it because she slept with a white guy? Was he a racist?

It was probably because of the nudity, and yes, Billy's character was a racist.

I don't think Halle is the best actress, but Angela could not have pulled that off. Or pulled off Die Another Day. Or the junkie role in Jungle Fever. I actually think Halle has more range than Angela. I find Angela too rigid and yes, that affected way she speaks has become annoying and one-note. Halle is great at playing women who are messes. I think Angela just looks too smart and rigid to become that unraveled.

[Quote]Did Kirkland even think for a second that she had a chance?

She won the Golden Globe for her performance in Anna and won the Los Angeles Film Critics Circle Award in a tie with Holly Hunter for Broadcast News.

R341, I read in a book about Sunset Boulevard that the then president of the Motion Picture Academy, Charles Brackett, penned a letter to Gloria Swanson after her loss to Judy Holliday essentially apologizing to her. Principal photography on Sunset Boulevard wrapped by the summer of 1949, but the film's theatrical release was delayed when initial screenings tested poorly. Brackett explained that the film had been seen in industry circles so long before Oscar voting was held in March 1951 that it was old news by then and Judy Holliday's film, which was released on Christmas Day of 1950, felt more current.

I'm not sure I entirely buy that argument -- Sunset Boulevard still managed to win three Oscars, including Best Screenplay -- but recency bias may have slightly influenced the tight Best Actress race.

Regardless, it's ridiculous Gloria Swanson was never awarded an Honorary Oscar at least.

Chrissy Teigen has pretty much ruined her looks with stupid unnecessary plastic surgery. It’s rumored she’s a bit of a cunt so maybe she deserves it, but still. Tsk, tsk.

Sorry, wrong thread.

[quote] DL loves to hate on black women, whether Angela had won or lost. DL sissies would have words for her

chile...

It would be bedlam if Angela had won.

[quote] DL loves to hate on black women

No, just the ones who qualify for a Golden Cunt Award.

Hearing again that she wore purple because it is royal sent me back to the barf-pot.

Being lifelong children is one thing. Being spoiled and greed lifelong children is repulsive.

I haven’t seen any of these movies so I’d be happy if Angela had won because I fucking hate JLC. Now, in being a sore loser, Angela has made me annoyed with her and I will avoid her.

This is way out of hand and it’s ridiculous how seriously unhinged people on social media platforms are trying to attach deep meaning and historical reparations to a fucking Oscar.

I would love to see her perform with fellow "blessed actress" Phylicia Rashad.

Niecy Nash is a better actress than Bassett. Angela could never do the kind of nuance that Niecy did in that Dahmer series.

And Niecy Nash is versatile too and can play comedy as well. She's hilarious in Scream Queens. In Claws, she was able to balance both the comedy and the drama.

Only the blacks would think a movie is good because "people quote it all the time".

She needs to make a movie with Viola

Of course the black community is saying: “Oh, yes, the black woman should stand for the white woman.” They also think the Will Smith slap was appropriate.

Bassett is hated in the industry. She’s a well-known nasty cunt to everyone around her.

She should be honored to be nominated in a Marvel film— a first.

She was gracious when she lost the SAG award.

People are saying Jamie Lee was barely in her film.

Angela was only on screen for four more minutes.

[quote]DL loves to hate on black women

You lost me at "hate on."

[Quote] But do we know what Holly Hunter was nominated for? I had no idea Holly won an Oscar either.

The Piano is a better film than What's Love Got To Do With It.

There are a handful of actors I wish would win the thing because if it drags out and they finally do win, the speech will be unbearable.

Love Angela Bassett.

Did not love Black Panther 2.

She might have acted her ass off but getting nominated for BP2 was a prize in and of itself. She shouldn't push her luck.

Angela is entitled to be disappointed. And Jamie Lee is entitled to be elated. That’s it.

It's silly to stay seated. Bassett knew she was likely to lose after Curtis won the SAG.

Her odds were one in five. She should have known then too and been prepared not to embarrass herself in public. Now she's a 2 on the Will Smith Scale.

Angela Tribbiani.

OP you're a huge cunt. white people are the biggest trolls of all time.

R365 only the whites are so far up their own asses they eat shit everyday. R372 stay lost period dumb cunt.

Keep it classy, R381.

[quote] And Halle Berry’s flamed out because she’s batshit crazy and nobody can work with her.

And this is without mentioning her "acting". Or Catwoman. Or how she hit a pedestrian while driving, drove away, was never charged and acted like she was the victim.

[quote] People are taking this way too far now. It's a fucking trophy.

Tell me about it

Team JLC!

Gloria Swanson losing the acting oscar is a travesty. By comparison, this is nothing.

She really does need to get over it and move on at this point. As others have pointed out, the nomination here is the reward. It’s very atypical to nominate a Marvel performance and Angela can pay herself on the back for being the first.

JLC’s sheer joy at winning has heartened me since Sunday. I recommend everyone see her Today show appearance with Savannah and Hoda from Monday morning or whenever it was. How you could watch that and complain about JLC is truly some petty bullshit. She’s delightful and I love seeing someone not holding back about how happy they are about winning.

That shady ass picture with Michelle Yeoh. If she had posted one with Jamie Lee Curtis, it would have solved lots of problems.

I'll be fine once I kick her in the cunt bone.

I'm surprised Jamie hasn't commented on or defended Angela. She loves to comment on everything so I thought she'd make a long winded post like "It's natural for one to be disappointed. BACK OFF". She must really be pissed.

R390 This is MY time to shine. I'm not going to share my spotlight with some jealous bitch.

I doubt Jamie is pissed off at all.

[quote]She really does need to get over it and move on at this point.

Is AB doing anything to suggest that she isn't over it? I mean, I think she's a pretentious being, and love talking shade about shitty celebrities. I thought her reaction was a bit sour at first, but it looks like she moved on within a few minutes.

Whatever work Angela had done on her face has given her permanent bitch face.

R394 She's been sucking on a Warhead the past few months.

Why would Jamie be pissed? She won! And Angela's reaction just makes her look bad, it has zero bearing on JLC. If I were JLC I doubt I'd be thinking about Angela Bassett right now. If I did become aware of her and this whole thing, I'd probably laugh it off. I can't imagine getting angry about it, especially if I had a shiny new Oscar statuette to look at and play with! Angela who??

Angela had a disappointed look for about 90 seconds.

Datalounge has been bitching for 400 posts.

Who needs to move on?

You may have noticed, R397, that moving on isn't our strong suit.

If Angela had been a white actress, you know the Klan Grannies would have her back.

Angela might have won the Oscar had she done MONSTER'S BALL. She could have told the director that she didn't want to do the sex scene with Billy Bob. Halle should have gotten hazardous duty pay for getting underneath that gross creature.

Saw pics of AB at the Vanity Fair party and she was all smiles. She’s over it people.

I don't understand why people are such sore losers. Think about all the films that are released in a given year, and only 5 actors from all those films are recognized for their performances. Damn, that would be honor enough for me.

Sure, it'd be great to be the actor who won, but I sure as hell wouldn't bitch about being in the final five.

R401 agreed. Many actors have a hell of a time even working, do other non acting gigs, or lowbrow acting assignments to pay the bills, the ones we see in film and streaming nominated or not are the lucky few who are probably like one percent of the acting community. I think Angela bought into all this hype. But you have to go into the Oscars expecting anything to happen. Front runners lose sometimes. She was momentarily shocked, but got over it.

Cate Blanchett had more of a pissed off face which she tried and failed miserably to hide. Why aren't you people after her?

R403 not anything like Angela. I don’t think Cate looked pissed, but like she was expecting the Michelle outcome. Considering the tour de force performance she gave, and then had to lose to a lesser actress, I think her reaction was entirely appropriate.

Cate seemed confused when Michelle's name was called. Her face said " wtf". Her facial expression showed indignant Angela 's was sadness, shock and disappointment which she quickly got over. But you lot keep harping on that this woman is filled with rage over her loss

[quote] She was gracious when she lost the SAG award.

Don't bother. These racist f@ggots would just move on to savaging the next Black woman. Fuck 'em.

Angela should come up with some sort of "justification", the usual bullshit people say to get the naysayers off their back, like "I was running a 104 degree fever" or "I have carpal tunnel and couldn't applaud" or "I was so happy for Jamie Lee I became paralyzed." It would be classier than letting it ride.

I find it really annoying all the people, here and on that cesspool Twitter, saying that Holly Hunter was undeserving and should give back her Oscar for The Piano to Angela Bassett who - may you be reminded - didn’t even sing in that Tina Turner movie.

People need to move on from this shit, acting like Bassett is SO hard done by. She’s had an acting career on film, tv and stage for over three decades! There are plenty of terrific actors - black, female actors, amongst them - - who NEVER get that! Show some gratitude, ffs. It’s the work that matters.

The only thing that would happen if Bassett had won the Oscar and put up her rate is: she’d get less with and her roles would go to other, equally talented black actresses with a lower rate. It’s the truth. She should consider herself lucky.

*less work

Cate Blanchett and Michelle Yeoh were not acting anywhere near the same acting world. Yeoh seemed like she was in a video game. Even the emotional outdoor laundromat scenes. The daughter was the only one grounded in truth. Yeoh was like presenting what the audience should be realizing with bad dialogue and verbal inflection. It was absurd.

Who are these Klan Grannies you speak of, R399? Do you seem them in the room with you now?

[Quote] I don't understand why people are such sore losers.

I don't think this is as general as that. It's a race issue. Angela stayed seated quite deliberately.

R407 why should she say anything? As clearly outlined in R96, people get disappointed when they lose. Then they move on. But Datalounge never will

R405 because it fits their entitled white sissy narrative.

Is Jamie's recent post shade towards Angela Bassett or am I overthinking things? "She even claps for boring nominations."

r415 Sure looks like it! I told y'all Jamie wouldn't take kindly to Angela's reaction.

Angela is free to clap for whomever she pleases. Jamie needs to go put a bag over that face of hers

R414 = an LSA refugee

Mostly Team Angela.

But it’s all about playing the game with movie folks and she didn’t play the game.

Very unlikely she will be nominated in the future.

Jesus JLC is a real asshole.

Why, R420?

Jamie is a karen. I watched an awards show where Zendaya was called to the stage and everyone clapped however, Jamie sitting upfront did not clap and looked at Beautiful young Zendaya with anger, envy and something racial

Prove it with video or pics, R422.

Go Jamie!

R423, I don't know how to post vids but on tiktok find the video of zendaya at SAG, getting out of her seat to go onstage

The most disappointing amongst all the Oscar losers has to be Ms. Cate Blanchett. She probably has been crying in her latte since Monday morning

Why on Earth would Cate be crying about this? She already has two Oscars.

Because she whore herself this award season than she ever has before? It's obvious she was dying to win that Oscar.

Angela's attitude screamed I'M BEING PASSED OVER BECAUSE I'M BLACK whether she meant it or not. If she meant it, it was sending a message to the Academy - "If I'm ever nominated again, and I better be soon, if you don't vote for me you'll prove me right."

[quote]Zendaya was called to the stage and everyone clapped however, Jamie sitting upfront did not clap and looked at Beautiful young Zendaya with anger, envy and something racial

This makes me like Jamie Lee more. Zendaya is a hack who shouldn’t be at awards shows.

Remember when PR people were trying to tell everyone that Zendaya should win the Oscar for that terrible black-and-white Netflix film with Denzel’s nepo baby? I couldn’t finish it and still haven’t.

R429, where is the proof of this? Are you a mind reader?

[quote] Because she whore herself this award season than she ever has before? It's obvious she was dying to win that Oscar.

I'm glad she won considering she has inexplicably survived multiple murder attempts by her demonic, psychotic, serial killer brother over the last 45 years, it would have been a horrible shame if losing the Oscar killed her

Well, in all fairness R433, he managed to kill her once. But she came back and we were supposed to ignore all the previous sequels, which is exactly when the series lost me because in a serial killer narrative dead is dead and there ain't no coming back.

[quote]Angela is free to clap for whomever she pleases. Jamie needs to go put a bag over that face of hers

There's nothing uglier than a sore loser's face. I wish Jamie would take a selfie with HER Oscar, with the caption "Suck it, Angela, but don't suck it very hard, because it's mine!"

Most people have no idea who Angela Basket is.

I love Jamie Lee even more for shading Angela about not clapping for her. She didn't even have to name names for her message to come across which shows how tarnished Angela's reputation is now everywhere outside of black Twitter.

Black Twitter is a cesspool

Did Dr. King hate us as much as black Twitter does?

Jamie is tough but thin skinned. Anyone could’ve guessed this would annoy her.

I’ll never forget that car crash moment on the red carpet between Jamie Lee and Joan Rivers the year JLC was passed over for Freaky Friday and Joan asked her what she was doing there since she didn’t get nominated (or something, it was unkind) and Jamie turned on her and said, “I am celebrating tonight with MY FRIENDS who are nominated!” And it was very clear she was saying, “FUCK YOU JOAN.”

In what world does Jamie Lee Curtis win an award over any of these other women?? She was the least deserving. She pulled the Andrea Riseborough move I bet to get votes

Michelle Yeoh is a beauty pageant winner and would-be ballerina whose rich Hong Kong businessman bf cast her in a watch commercial with Jackie Chan, which resulted in a few action movie roles. Then she married said bf and “retired,” divorced him after a few years and suddenly became an actress again. She said her ballet career was derailed by a “back injury” yet she can do all sorts of insane stunts?

R442 She sure as hell didn't do her own stunts in EEAAO.

R442 you make her sound suspicious. Many women go back to work after divorcing as they need they money and or desire the stimulation. It’s not some scam.

R442, She is in top physical shape and can still do her own stunts. You wish you had her flexibility that she shows in this interview.

Angela couldn't muster an expression due to all the plastic surgery and she was probably shellacked to the chair to hold the plastic surgery in place. I always mix her up with Viola Davis.

R445 You obviously didn't watch EEAAO very closely.

And being flexible certainly doesn't make you a stunt woman.

JLC should have been nominated in A Fish Called Wanda

JLC should have been nominated for True Lies.

JLC should have been nominated for Freaky Friday.

JLC should have been nominated for Trading Places.

I believe she actually won a BAFTA at some point.

“Two time Oscar nominee and Golden Globe winner Angela Bassett.” Not too shabby

I’d never even heard of her until this. And she’s been nominated twice?

How uppity of her.

[quote]JLC should have been nominated in A Fish Called Wanda

And "My Girl."

Let me get this straight, Angela Bassett has lost twice and is making a fuss? TWICE?

Move on already The financial system is crashing Putin is being arrested Trump is being arrested Winter is coming to an end Spring is spruning* Soon Fall will be upon us November will be here soon Move on people

What are all these great Angela Bassett performances that make her "overdue"?

[quote]I find it really annoying all the people, here and on that cesspool Twitter, saying that Holly Hunter was undeserving and should give back her Oscar for The Piano to Angela Bassett who - may you be reminded - didn’t even sing in that Tina Turner movie.

People were rewarding Holly for the fact that she played a deaf mute. Same reason Dustin won for Rain Man. Those gimmicky performances are outdated today in an era of movies like Coda.

Angela acted her ass off and had to dance like Tina, which is not an easy thing to do. She also had some heavy dramatic moments.

Debra Winger was awesome in Shadowlands.

Stockard Channing also gave a great performance as well.

And yes, Madonna, in Dangerous Game should have snagged a nomination, as she gave a revelatory performance that has been completely overlooked in terms of her career.

I would have dumped Emma Thompson from the lineup. She wasn't bad in Remains of the Day, but the movie is a chore to get through. It's not as good as Howards End.

[quote]What are all these great Angela Bassett performances that make her "overdue"?

Malcolm X

What's Love Got to do with it

Waiting to Exhale

Strange Days

How Stella got her groove back

Akeelah and the Bee

Music of the Heart

Meet the Browns

R458 Holly Hunter wasn’t mute in The Piano. We heard her voice throughout and she even had to do accent work for her performance. It’s an outstanding performance fully deserving of its Oscar win.

R458 She also wasn’t a deaf character.

R460 As I recall, all we heard her say was "tuh..tuh..tuh.."

I predict Angela will win her first Oscar in a film dealing with African American women suffering from Alopecia. The film will be directed by Jada Pinkett Smith who will be up for best director.

R462 Then you recall wrong, she narrates the entire film.

Angela Bassett is the Phylicia Rashad of the big screen.

Nobody is hating on Bassett for her appearance. She chews up the scenery mercilessly and approaches every line like she's in a remake of The Towering Inferno. Subtlety is not her strong suit.

[quote] Music of the Heart

LOL is this satire? Nobody remembers Angela in that movie, the one that Meryl was nominated for.

There is nothing "gimmicky" about Holly Hunter's performance. What a completely uniformed and stupid comment. One of the dumbest on DL I've ever read.

Angela LIP-SYNCHED as Tina. That was gimmicky.

And fucking lazy.

She looked like a drag queen with those bodybuilder arms. She looked like she could have beat up Ike.

Ada as played by Holly Hunter was a self imposed mute

R459 is confusing great with adequate.

She's getting an Honorary Oscar now.

[quote] Nobody is hating on Bassett for her appearance. She chews up the scenery mercilessly and approaches every line like she's in a remake of The Towering Inferno. Subtlety is not her strong suit.

I kind of love that about her though. And other actors like Pacino and Dunaway. I love when actors play big (even if they don't need to). Too many actors these days underplay the material.

Angela Bassett did not owe anyone a smile. She wasn't angry. She was not required to perform to make everyone think she was happy in that 2-3 seconds. People act like she pulled a Spike Lee or Eddie Murphy and then took a dump on the floor on the way out.