Scream VI (Spoiler Thread)

Pros:

A really inventive opening scene.

Melissa's acting is a lot better.

Ghost Billy only appears twice and briefly.

The violence is really brutal, one of the most of the franchise.

Gale lives, just barely, but she puts up a hell of a fight before getting stabbed a few times. Dewey's lame death is NOT repeated.

Lot of eye candy for the gays and girls.

Lot of nods to past killers who aren't Billy and Stu.

Cons:

A romance subplot between Jenna Ortega and Mason Gooding, who have 0 chemistry.

The main killer (there are multiple) kind of flops during the motive scene at the end

I'm sure I'll have more thoughts but wanted to get this rolling for my fellow Horror Queens..

Who’s the killer or killers?

R3 Richie's Dad and two siblings. Dad is no Debbie Salt, I'll say that much. He wasn't bad, but you of course immediately compare it to the end of Scream 2, and there's only one Laurie Metcalf.

Two siblings? Names?

BTW, motive?

Oh, god, they’re pulling a Scream 2? The last film was god-awful. It was Scream on a budget. How are people interested in this stale shit that’s repeating itself?

R5 I was trying to be a little vague in case someone falls in by mistake.

The motive is revenge for Richie. Obviously.

R6 if you hated 5, give this one a chance. It's definitely an improvement.

There's also a nod to real world conspiracy theories. It's widely chatted by the Scream version of QAnon idiots that Sam was the killer in 5 and framed Richie and Amber.

Did anyone watch the MTV series? How’d they keep the Ghostface killer thing going with that?

If true, Gale should live though they’ve not really written her up to par in 4 or 5.

Does Kirby survive?

Really OP? You prefer 4 and 5 over 3?

I'm assuming Neve had the good sense to leave this mess behind.

R12 you were a shining spot in a lesser entry, my love

R11 yes.

R13 she passed over money

From what I’ve heard, Gale’s chase/kill is one of the best in the franchise.

R15 correct. They very much did not give her a lame scene like Dewey's death.

One thing that's funny: in every movie from 3 on, they use ONE photo from Courteney and David's marriage. It's like in the decade or so that they were together, Gale and Dewey picked up a camera ONCE

Wait, Gale died? Noooooooo!

R17 she lives, but barely. She takes a BEATING

Does she at least give as good as she gets?

This should have been the movie Gale kicks some ass and takes out a GF all by herself.

R19 yes. It's a hell of a fight.

Tell me about Jack Champion the Avatar twink

R21 underwritten character, no shirtless scenes.

R22 shame, thought he would be the gay character in the show

I do have some issues with the way they’ve written Gale since 3. She’s a really popular character, she’s also badass like Sidney, but more interesting. She didn’t really have any great scenes in either 4 or 5. It sounds like she finally gets a good one in 6, but she’s almost defeated and doesn’t take out a Ghostface. Maybe I’ll be happy with the fight she puts up and Ghostface didn’t end of killing her so I don’t know. I feel they’ve really missed a lot of opportunities with her character. Kevin Williamson was originally going to make her the center of one of the newer films when he was still involved along with Dewey. Reportedly Gale was Wes’ favorite characters and forbid her being killed off.

From what I’ve heard, this movie is very satisfying and subverts who you think will die and I am actually very happy about what was done.

The only negative I’ve heard is how the last act plays out. Apparently, it went a tad campy (this is one aspect of Scream I wish they’d nix).

In the end, I’d like Sidney and Gale being the sole survivors.

Do they mention Sidney in this film?

R26 briefly

Please tell me Chad doesn't die! I won't go see it if he does.

The NYT review has a funny mention of Neve Campbell.

it’s also the first “Scream” without Neve Campbell’s Sidney, which goes to show that Hollywood contract negotiations are more horrifyingly fatal than any cinematic maniac.

R28 you and I have very opposite feelings. He's VERY hot, but the character is a nothing burger. They need to throw him on the body pile in 7.

I wanted him dead in 5, I wanted him dead in 6, I still do.

Mason Gooding makes me very wet and I’m a guy.

The actress playing Mindy is almost as bad as Melissa.

Courtney Cox looks…..good in this. Whatever she did, or undid, or didn’t do, works.

The Youtube channel DrumDums has apparently been getting a lot of flack for saying he didn't care for this.

Good grief folks, wait until the dust settles and the paid hypers for this are no longer on payroll before you cast judgement on him.

It's pretty obvious who at least two of the killers are. When you see a character covered in blood but didn't actually see them attacked? Likely fake. Then that character has a family member who is also in the film, vowing to avenge the (fake) death. Well, there's two Ghostface killers.

There are technically five in this film.

Yes, the opening is clever and you won’t see it coming.

Yes, there are technically 5 GF killers.

CC does look good. Really good.

Sidney wasn’t missed. It becomes too much about her in every film. Others need to shine which is why I agree Gale should have been given more.

At the theater about to watch so as I go in the last 5 minutes of the last show are on and I see who all survives just as another character runs up naming the 2 killers and the others add a 3rd name.

Usually when I enter a theater the shit on screen is Maria Menounos or the M&Ms.

Oh well I'm sure I'll still enjoy it.

R33 she stopped fucking with her face around 2016.

She did something and she has fucked with her face since 2016 because she looked horrible in part of that Friends reunion. She looked good, to me, in part 4. She looked old, but good, in part 5. She looks older, but better than part 5, in part 6.

[quote]Others need to shine which is why I agree Gale should have been given more.

This movie tells us that Gale never spoke to Ghostface on the phone before now. That's interesting but it's true. I kinda hope that they don't bring Sidney back after this. Gale can carry the nostalgia on her own.

R39 she looked terrible in 4.

R41 I didn’t think so and many I know feel the same. I know many feel she looked terrible, too. I’m just happy she looked good in this one.

I guess I'm just old but I don't care about these lackluster Gen Zers/Millennials. I'd only watch to see Courteney Cox or somebody of my age group.

R43 not many slashers about 50 year olds getting chased

True R44, that's why if I want to see a slasher flick I'll just rewatch a Halloween or Friday the 13th.

Hayden Panettiere had more fillers than Courtney Cox did.

The actress that played Samantha Carpenter kept on reminding me of a Kardashian pre-plastic surgery / makeup / fillers

The neighbor at the adjacent apartment was hot. Was the window peaking thing a reference to Friends?

*window peeking

The Drew Barrymore part in this film was played by Margot Robbie-lite

Courteney Cox brought her beautiful daughter Coco Arquette as her date to the world premiere of her highly-anticipated horror film, Scream VI, at the AMC Lincoln Square Theater in New York City on Monday night.

While attending the star-studded screening, the 58-year-old Friends star and teenager, 18, who she shares with ex David Arquette, rocked a black minidress, velvet blazer, semi-sheer tights and a pair of matching stilettos.

The Golden Globe nominee completed her look with a pair of gorgeous hoop earrings, a $17,500 diamond Tennis necklace and one-of-a kind white gold onyx and diamond circle ring by Jennifer Meyer.

pics.

Look. I am crushing on Mason Gooding. I hate slasher movies.I just want to know if the only reason for me to see it is Mason, is it worth going to see it?

R51 Yes, and Mason is so hot it hurts. The movie is good. Of course they go a bit off the rails at the end, but up until then, it’s very good and very tense.

I wish they had surprised us and made Sydney the killer.

No problem with him as a Nepo baby?

R53 That would be so fucking stupid. Seriously. Like, what? That is a jump the shark moment. Same if they made Gale, who would have more motive (ambitious, writes about the murders), but still, it would be a jump the shark moment.

Throughout the movie, I went back and forth on whether or not I liked this. By the end, I decided I did. It' a step up from 5, even though it still has issues with the writing, casting and even worse killers.

The opening felt like something out of Tales from the Crypt. Very refreshing for this franchise. But I wish Samara Weaving had a bigger role. Maybe have her be the fakeout death and Richie's sister instead of Lianna Liberato.

Dermot Mulroney and Hayden Panettiere are hilariously bad. Especially the former.

R9 we dont talk about that abortion

Billy’s mother will always be Debbie. Not Nancy.

They limited Sidney Prescott when they made her a mom. It was dumb for her to leave the kids at home to run around after GF killers in Scream 4. Leave that to the authorities, lady! Stay at home with her kids who need you.

Gale is the True Final Girl in this franchise.

^ Scream (2022), not Scream 4...

R59 you mean 5? It made sense. Dewey, the only useful cop was dead. She could either go on the offense and kill the killer or what for them to show up at her door.

It really didn't make sense for a mom of three to charge into the fray like that, putting herself at risk. She should've been in the Witness Protection Program if she was truly afraid... if any of this were based in reality, which it's not.

Anyway, I'm glad she's gone. Her story is complete.

R62 I agree with you that I'm fine if she had her happy ending, but she did try hiding before (in 3).

I'm just glad the movie was better than the "Made in 10 minutes on a deadline" poster.

R9 I never bothered with the series. But I like the promo they did with the actors from other MTV shows.

I miss Marco Beltrami

I agree Gale is the true Final Girl and she’s the best character in the franchise prior to 4. They’re neutered her since.

I guessed the killers both times because duh… all this series is now is a tired retread with minority actors instead of whites and where the equation is minorities=good, white people=bad. Welcome to the new Hollyweird racism. So the killers in this one are the white family avenging the white killer from 2022

Even the girl who taunts the Melissa B character on the street is white. Whities are the worst!!! So evil!!!

^white fragility in action

R68 and they still can't have a gay or bisexual MALE character, despite the fact that the series was created by a gay man and the movies have a huge gay male fanbase

Instead we get a lesbian, who gets to make out with a girl in Scream 5 AND survive

In all honesty, the straight guy Scream fans, judging from Facebook groups, would have an epic snowflake meltdown if they brought on a gay/bi male character, these are the same people who have been calling ALL gay men groomers ie pedophiles but they sure have no problems with lesbians

Gay men really do get treated the worst

Still not confirming if Stu Macher is alive or dead.

Wasn't the actress playing Sidney in Scream 3 also a Ghostface but editing fucked all that up.

They should bring her back as a pissed off GF not getting the recognition she deserved.

It’s so formulaic and the new cast is so bland and uninteresting. I’ll give Scream 7 a pass at this point.

Sidney needs to snap and murder the new cast.

They could EASILY bring back Parker Posey as Jennifer Jolie in Scream 7

Yes she was stabbed and shot once but she fell to the floor and was never confirmed dead, Gail, Dewey and Sidney survived worse

They could continue having Jennifer be obsessed with Gail Weather's and she left acting to become a reporter like Gail and the two go at it as rivals

Hilarity ensues

They definitely gave away too much in the trailer.

Does anybody know what the deal was with the aged ghostface mask? I don’t think it was adequately explained why the mask looks so different.

Not that it’s saying much but I think 6 is slightly better than 5. Still nothing can compare to the Wes Craven films. I don’t know why people love to shit on 3. 3 is a masterpiece compared to 5 and 6.

I hate the new cast. They're all so unimpressive and unlikable. Seriously who are Jenna, Melissa, and Yasmin blowing in Hollywood?

They were so trying to pull a Scream 2 but nobody can beat the great Laurie Metcalf.

There's a scene in the trailer with Dermot with a gun and a bruise on his head. I thought there's no way they would put that in the trailer so I was in the minority that it wasn't gonna be him. I thought it was going to be Ethan and Quinn or Ethan and Anika. I knew the motive would have something to do with either Richie or Amber. So overall I would say this was a pretty easy Scream to figure out. Next time they shouldn't reveal so much in the trailer.

Does anybody know what the post credit scene is? I had to take a piss didn't want to stay until the end of the credits!

Hilarious that Samara Weaving was the first kill of the movie.

Neve could stay relevant forever and laugh all the way to the bank with this franchise. I don't have much sympathy for her "value" not being reflected.

Of course Mason Gooding is hot. He comes from good genes. His grandfather was gorgeous. Yes. Grandfather. He belonged to a singing group my mother used to love. The Main Ingredient. Here's a sample of his voice. Golden voice. Lead singer.

The opening was pretty clever and hilarious. This definitely felt like a throwback to Scream 2. A parent seeking revenge, the subway scene being an homage to Scream 2 opening, the big finale taking place inside a theater. There will be a Scream 7 for sure.

Well, what must Richie's mother think after all this? She's around somewhere... early prediction for Scream 7.

Is this movie gory or just suspenseful. Because I can do suspense but not gore.

R87: It's basically torture porn at this point. Of course they say each and every time that this Scream will be the most brutal and more gorier than the last. Honestly, I thought this really wasn't that scary or gory.

This was an improvement. They definitely read the bad Scream 5 reviews.

I was really hoping they would kill off Mason Gooding. I just hate his nepo baby personality and face.

I was hoping they'd kill off Mindy. Her exposition monologues are so cringeworthy. Can the girl take an acting class or something?

R91: I know right. Like I said I think she and Melissa Barrera and Jenna Ortega are blowing the same guy in Hollywood.

Dermot looks like shit and was really terrible in this.

The directing duo on this film (Radio Silence) said that they want to do a sequel to Ready or Not. I really hope it happens -- that movie was so much fun. The actors from that film who were in Scream 6 were really under-used IMO.

R91 The actress is quite good in Yellowjackets. I think it’s more of an issue of the writing for her Scream character than her acting ability.

[quote]Does anybody know what the deal was with the aged ghostface mask? I don’t think it was adequately explained why the mask looks so different.

It was Billy's mask from the original killings which would make it nearly 30 yrs old.

R87 - NYT says : In one of its gruesome kills, a knife doesn’t just go for the throat, it shoves it down and twists....There are a couple of truly frightening, patiently established suspense scenes, including one inside a subway car during Halloween that’s filled with people in costumes of horror villains, including multiple Ghostfaces. It’s a nicely staged vignette that, in keeping with the spirit of “Scream,” operates as a meta commentary on the glut of scary movies. But it’s tricky business balancing disturbing terror and jokey film criticism, and while this sequel occasionally pulls it off, the weight of obligations to the dictates of the franchise ultimately drags it down."

They should do a dream sequence with all past ghostfaces for Scream 7.

Some of the leaks turned out to be true like Quinn faking her death and Samara Weaving and Tony Revolori being the opening kill.

Jason and Greg - Wayne Bailey

Bodega Clerk - Wayne Bailey

Dr. Stone - Wayne Bailey

Anika - Wayne Bailey

Gale attack - Quinn

Mindy attack - Quinn

Chad attack - Quinn and Ethan

R68 JFC you’re fucking insane. I bet your mom wishes she aborted your sorry pathetic ass.

[Quote] I hate the new cast. They're all so unimpressive and unlikable. Seriously who are Jenna, Melissa, and Yasmin blowing in Hollywood?

I have to agree with R95 . Jasmin is good on Yellowjackets and i don't get the hype over Jenna either but i don't think there's any blowing going on. Neither of them are straight.

Jasmin's gay IRL

Her gfs cute too. I wonder if she ever hooked up with Javicia.

[quote]The neighbor at the adjacent apartment was hot.

I've found Josh Segarra to be hot as fuck since I first saw him in the series "The Other Two". Though he's underutilized in [bold]Scream VI[/bold], at least we're treated to a gratuitous shirtless scene with him.

R105: I agree he's very cute.

Peter K Rosenthal's review

R105: Too bad he can't act for shit.

I guessed the killer because they laid a clue early on about Quinn's brother dying and that's why her father transferred to NYC as a cop. Didn't guess that the nerd was the other brother. Dermot looks haggard AF. Does he drink?

I think Eva Longorria should play the mother of Jenna and Melissa in the inevitable Scream 7.

Whiole you saw people in costumes, the city didn't look particularly seasonal.

I enjoyed the movie. Many of the set pieces were fun. I was partcularly disturbed by the bodega and subway scenes. I think in the next one, the two sisters should be the Ghostfaces getting revenge on asshole social media types and just end the franchise on that note.

R109: Dermot looks like shit. He’s somebody who really has no business being in a Scream movie. Quinn does mention a brother dying and after she fakes her death Dermot says something like now I lost a daughter and a son. Those were total dead giveaways.

When trying to figure out who the ghostface killer or killers may be, I find that a good rule of thumb is to pick the people who are the strangest looking or least attractive.

Samara Weaving is supposed to be this cool college film professor, but she acts like a spaz on her tinder date. I like her dress - it's conservative and sexy at the same time. I really wanted more from her character as well as a longer chase sequence.

I hope Dermot Mulroney wins the Razzie next year.

R110 I was about to say Samara is a little young but i just googled and she's 2 years younger than me 😭

Oops that was meant for R112

R109 I agree, Halloween and NYC weren't really utilized that much.

Agreed with this guy.

Some of these characters got stabbed/slashed and then were laughing and totally fine less than a day later. The Yellowjackets actress almost had her arm cut off but the following scenes didn't show even the bulk of a bandage through her shirt. Then she got stabbed in the stomach on the subway and was running around and joking with the other survivors at the end of the film.

Were the directors drunk when they filmed this? I know it's ~a movie~ but c'mon. At least characters in his Scream movies staggered around after getting attacked.

^That should read, "Wes would never." I just woke up.

Dewey survived the first Scream and limped in every scene afterwards until he was killed. Maybe David Arquette is a better actor than I've given him credit for.

Looks like it is "killing" at the box office and set to make it's highest opening weekend of the franchise.

Can't believe that was Jack Champion. He was a hot twink in Avatar 2.

He looked like Jesse Eisenberg's more Aspie, socially inept younger brother who transitioning.

R121: Um I wouldn’t exactly describe him as hot.

[quote]Some of these characters got stabbed/slashed and then were laughing and totally fine less than a day later.

Yeah, it happens over & over again in the movie. To me, the worst case of this was Chad. We see him repeatedly stabbed in the chest with big ol' hunting knives by 2 Ghost Faces simultaneously, yet he's still found alive some time later. I mean, even if he hadn't died immediately, wouldn't he have bled out before then?

I think Mason Gooding is hot, so I'm glad he lives to see another sequel -- but I can only suspend my disbelief so far.

I was kind of hoping they would kill off Chad and Mindy.

I, for one, really like Chad and Mindy - maybe more than the two leads. I don’t have any strong reasoning to back that up with, but it pains me to hear them slandered.

How did Dermot Mulroney fake his daughter’s death? Wouldn’t a coroner and the morgue be involved?

I like Scream 2 only slightly better. Laurie Metcalf is always brilliant. I love how the surprises still shock after you haven’t seen it in a while. And Jada’s opening scene shows what a natural she truly is. She has great screen presence and sinks into the role.

But the first is a classic and set the standard. Scream made me fall in love with filmmaking.

Thank god Courtney barely has a role in this.

It was much better than 5, but it was still kind of lacking. The opening sequence was great. Melissa's acting improved. The conspiracy plot point was done well. Neve wasn't missed.

The rest was... meh. The twist was fine, but it was easy to predict that Ethan was part of it. Both Mindy and Chad should have died from their injuries. Mindy is an insufferable character with her explanation about the rules.

Speaking of which, this franchise's hook about being meta really doesn't work in 2023, because everything is meta and self-aware now. But that won't stop a Scream 7.

I wonder how much money they'll throw at Neve for Scream VII.

It was ok... Mason is hot... what's his story?

He's still a nepo baby.

Mason is hot but his character adds nothing

And he got stabbed an insane amount of times. He should be dead.

r133

so did his sister yet she was running around at the end... actually so did Wednesday yet she was acting like nothing happened

The reveal scene would have worked if they had cast a better actor as Bailey. Dermot is a serviceable actor but that's it. To pull off camp, you need to have a good sense of timing and be able to know when to turn it up to eleven, dip back down so it isn't just non-stop screaming, and then turn it up again. Laurie Metcalf has that precision, which is why the ending of Scream 2 worked even though up until that point, Debbie was a peripheral character. They should have cast a Broadway actor who does some TV; maybe Brian D'Arcy James.

Mindy should died. Have her and Gale survive their attacks back to back really brought down the tension, and I choose Gale surviving over her any day. That said, I don't think Courtney looked any less awful in this one compared to 5, just less bloated in the face. Kirby's work was more distracting though; her face from under her eyes to her top lip is completely frozen.

But over all I really liked it, much more than 5. The beginning kills, the bodega, Gale's apartment, and the subway scene were the stand outs.

That was Hayden Pannietiere? I thought it was Kim Petras. Chad surviving is even worse than Dewey surviving in Scream 2.

No love for hot daddy Henry Czerny? I was hoping Madeline Stowe was going to be at the door to deliver an icy lecture.

The killer reveals went from jaw-dropping to "oh, it's them" since Scream 3.

R127 = Jada Smith

[quote] And Jada’s opening scene shows what a natural she truly is.

DO NOT mock my woman Jada or you will get a slap!

R87, Courteney Cox had the best scene and the most suspenseful/exciting scene.

The rest of the movie wasn’t very suspenseful. It had a few scenes that were genuinely exciting.

Courteney Cox looks like Caitlyn Jenner now.

Her face looks odd, like her skin has been stretched across like a mask.

Question that has been bothering me:

Why does Ethan help save Mindy after she is stabbed on the subway?

R143, the same reason Farrah Fawcett rushed her kids to the emergency room after shooting them.

I think he needed her to be his alibi. She could vouch that he wasn’t the Ghostface who stabbed her.

But really, how could he count on her surviving?

I guess all the legacy characters ended up stabbed and survived. Maybe not Samantha? There was a lot of stabbing in this one. Even barely featured actors with a couple of lines ended up stabbed.

R145, Diane Downs wasn’t counting on her kids surviving after she shot them and she still rushed them to the hospital.

[quote]No love for hot daddy Henry Czerny?

He had like 20 seconds of screen time. Wasted! I was hoping he'd be Ghost Face but alas... As R135 said, you have to have an actor who understands camp. Henry could have done that role better than Dermot.

Mason Gooding is sizzling

Sure the acting is nothing to write home about it's a Scream film after all so I wasn't bothered by that. I was disappointed that it ended up being Dermot. From the moment he was announced, everybody said he was going to be the killer so they really should've went with somebody else.

The consensus is right: the kills brutal, the chase sequences thrilling, and the opening brilliant. On the other hand, you could see the killers and motives coming from a mile away. Also, I just can't warm up to the "core four." They're all so annoying and unlikable.

Why do people think it’s okay to enjoy explicit depictions of “brutal killings” of humans? People who enjoy that are disturbing

I always love trying to figure out who did what and who killed who after each Scream movie. I think it was mostly Dermot. Quinn killed Gale’s boyfriend and attacked Mindy. The only one I’m not sure about is who killed Anika.

Dermot. He talked about applying Quinn's makeup and the son was at the study group giving him an alibi.

R109, I believe they shot some of it in Canada actually

It made me mad in the first Scream that Stu has such a thin motive that I never watched the other ones.

How the hell did that girl who got gutted on the subway just the night before get released from the hospital so she could show up after the killers were dispatched?

I loved the kills but hated the characters you were positive were going to die didn't. There were Fucking 4 of them!

Mindy - pretty much gutted in the subway.

Chad - 2 GFs were repeatedly stabbing him and he lived

Kirby - got shot and bled like a stuck pig but she's okay

Gale - amazing chase sequence but the EMTs save her. I guess it's kind of the pass because she's the only OG character.

And the fat ginger is 'murdered' but lives

It was Montreal standing in for NYC

They sprinkled in a few moments of wokeness like Gale's black boyfriend, Mindy and Anika's relationship, the core four being all minorities but without shoving it in your face.

R159 Enough with seeing “wokeness” everywhere. JFC you’ve fallen for the FAUX conservative outrage BS. Once they point something out, even if it is wrong, that’s all you see and you fell for it.

Aging is a fucking bitch.

R122 you wouldn't hit that?

Or he over the hill, Bryan S

R159 sorry notwhites, nonstraights exist

R151: For Christ's sake it's only a fucking fictional movie.

Did anyone else find this installment rather boring? I realized I was about half way into the movie and not much had actually happened. The ending is way too overwrought.

That said, I will still give 4, 5, and 6 some kudos for making up for the absolute mess that was Scream 3.

I liked it, but no one important died. Scream 2 had Randy, Scream 3 had Cotton. Someone who MATTERED needed to die.

I'll have to re-watch it, but there were some moments where it seemed like they were throwing some shade at Neve for turning this one down.

Some people speculated she was asking for too much $$$, but that seems a bit odd considering they just met her demands for Scream 5. I can't imagine that much has changed within a year.

Come on 3 wasn't that bad. It poked fun at the casting couch/1970s Hollywood and the Roman reveal was a nice surprise. Yes the others were superior films but at least 3 was better than 5.

All of the Wes Craven SCREAMs are leagues better than the new offerings in every way. No one ever complained about the acting in Wes's films.

[Quote] It poked fun at the casting couch/1970s Hollywood

I would love to know what Harvey Weinstein thought of that subplot.

R165, yeah it seemed to be paying homage to Scream 2 in having an utterly dead stretch in the middle of the movie.

You can’t say this on any other forum, but that Quinn girl was too dumpy and out of shape to run up a flight of stairs, let alone participate in a massacre.

R170 from what I've heard, it didnt even ring a bell with him

R172 what else have you heard? 👀

Scream 1 dragged a bit in the middle as well. Moreso than 2, imo.

R171 that's why I love Scream 3 more than 2

It doesn't drag, it's campy fun plus PARKER POSEY

Some thoughts after watching it for a second time =

I guess Harvey's bro was the one listed in the end credits.

Ethan being able to make a yell for another kill round (after being "knife twisted" in the throat) made me LOL the second time I viewed it.

Sam stabbing cop dad so many times with little to none blood splatter was so unrealistic.

Film girl getting out of the hospital (after being stabbed in the stomach) to go see anyone is so unbelievable.

Little troll sis can run up to a multiple stabbed victim, take off his oxygen (so considerate) in order to plant a selfish kiss was also unbelievable. The fact that he can talk & didn't have more blood on him clothes/body was also unbelievable.

No major character died in this other than film girl's galpal who we just met & really didn't care for much as a character. Everyone knew she wouldn't make it across that ladder as the final person to go across. She was bleeding out so much on the bed but as she went across the ladder not even a drop LOL! So unbelievable.

Also Gayle shows no outrage/concern for her token black boyfriend who was just killed seconds ago & was making jokes was just poor character development. She should've had Dewey flashbacks in some manner at the time. Also if Quinn was the one to kill him how did she throw his bigger muscled body thru that wooden thing so easily not to mention overpower him in that struggle behind Gayle so easily/quickly?).

I call bs on so many things in this film. No one knows cop dad 's son was a famous killer before he was hired onto the force? Not Gayle or any other reporter in the crowd? Not Kirby, Sam, Film girl or Little troll sis? The minorities getting offed by whites (other than last film's Asian girl - the first minority Ghostface ) is so unbelievable. So out of 12 Ghostface killers only 1 non-white killer & 4 female killers. Yeah that's believable. This franchise needs a reboot more than it needs tired old Sydney or painful to look at Gayle in the driver's seat again.

I like Kirby but I struggle to believe her character as a FBI agent. She needs to eat something & the film never reveals if she really was a FBI agent or was taken off for her Ghostface issues as it was implied. Lots of problems with this film compared to the other ones that came before it.

I prefer the first 4 films over the last 2 based on the scripts. I hope the Core Four gets taken down to one in the next film (Sam being the last one alive) & maybe she or Gayle sees Dewey like we have to put up with the Billy visions. This one was too afraid to pull the trigger on killing any major character. No guts & no glory for it.

The directors said they felt guilty about killing Dewey and thus didn't want to kill any legacy or new character in this latest installment. I highly suggest that they kill one of Sam, Tara, Mindy, or Chad in Scream Seven. They're all so charisma free and this Core Four being all minorities just screams (pardon the pun) stunt casting.

It's so weird to me there are people commenting in this thread wanting to know what happens BEFORE they go and see it. Why spoil it for yourselves?

I loved it, thought it was a big improvement over 5.

Regarding the lack of concern for Gale's bf R177 - she was fighting for her life and trying to work out where the killer was, do you expect her to break down in tears and leave herself open to attack?

I agree that you have to have a slight suspension of belief when it comes to how the killers manage to do everything and they often get a beating themselves and then later show up without any visible effects, but I'm not looking for super realism here so it doesn't really take me out of it.

I thought it was pretty damn obvious that the cop just made up that story about Kirby being kicked out of the FBI. Oh and it did show her eating something!

I do agree that there needs to be Core 4 offed assuming 7 will feature them again.

I'm glad they read the bad Scream 5 reviews but there are still a few things they need to work on for 7. These new directors give away too much in the trailers and make their killers so obvious.

They were definitely throwing some shade at Neve for being a greedy bitch with that Gale phone call scene.

Chad surviving his brutal stabbing in the last Scream was unrealistic. I actually laughed when they wheeled him out alive and conscious at the end of this one. But hey he’s guaranteed eye candy to get me back for the next one.

Neve completely phoned it in for 5. Believe me she wasn't missed.

She'll be back. Bugs Bunny veneers aren't cheap.

[quote]I agree that you have to have a slight suspension of belief when it comes to how the killers manage to do everything and they often get a beating themselves and then later show up without any visible effects, but I'm not looking for super realism here so it doesn't really take me out of it.

Hasn't always been that way. After Mickey crashed the cop car at the end of Scream 2, when he revealed himself as a GF, he had a huge bruise on his face. This was Wes Craven's attention to detail that the new filmmakers simply don't have. Maybe the Core Four have supernatural abilities and that's why injuries don't affect them? If you told me that Scream 6 didn't really happen and was Sidney Prescott's fever dream, I'd probably buy it.

R180 Gayle was like ho hum & even made a joke shortly after her boyfriend's body was tossed on the floor.

She was basically over him before his corpse hit her luxury flooring. Maybe Cox just can't cry on cue during phone calls LOL.

Also she left herself open to attack by leaving her locked closet where she stored her gun (which is how she ended up in the hospital clinging to life). Did you not see this film or pay close attention?

Some people are saying this is the best Scream since the first one. I don't know about that but it has the best opening scene since the first one.

The people behind this new trilogy are very mid. Like low iq.

R189: They're very derivative of the Wes Craven films and they put in way too many obvious clues as to the killers' identities.

Gale looked just fine in this. She finally got a really good scene.

Scream needs to take it down a notch with the over the top antics. It doesn’t need them.

Gale doesn’t need to die. She interesting when they write her correctly.

I’m sick of the racist screeching about the Four Core being all minorities and the killers being white. Like, STFU. We’re all sick of the racism. Whites have had it all for centuries and minorities are being written in more, sometimes clumsily, and your world is falling apart. JFC get a grip!

If they're going to kill one of the core four in seven, please for the love of God let it be Mindy. Her monologues are annoying. Keep Sam and Tara for the overall story and Chad for the eye candy.

R188, get yo honky ass out my thread.

[Quote] I don't know about that but it has the best opening scene since the first one.

They're never going to top Drew's opening scene. But I like all of the others except i prefer the alternate cut of Scream 4. I think it was changed because there's no Ghostface call.

Opening scenes ranking: 1, 2, 6, 5, 4, 3.

While the Radio Silence films provide a humorous commentary on the state of Hollywood today, they feel like essentially loose remakes and the new characters aren't particularly memorable or charming.

Scream and Scream 2 aired on tv this past weekend. I was falling asleep toward the end of Scream 2 so I didn’t see the hole thing but did Dewey not find out that his sister was gruesomely murdered? He doesn’t seem to mention it or be affected by it in either film.

-whole thing. Sorry. Too many holes.

[quote]I didn’t see the hole thing but did Dewey not find out that his sister was gruesomely murdered? He doesn’t seem to mention it or be affected by it in either film.

You have to wait all the way to Part 5 to see he keeps her ashes on his mantle.

That's all the Tatum you get in this series aside from her clothes on display in the Ghostface shrine in the latest one.

Whatever happened to poor Mrs. Riley, Dewey and Tatum's mother? The dad was nowhere, and she lost both of her kids to GF. SAD!

What do we think of the twink from Avatar?

R197 I think Dewey does mention her to Randy in Scream 2. And there was a deleted scene in Scream 4 that replicates Tatum's death.

Scream 2 was over a year after Scream 1. He clearly grimaces when Gale mentions her death in Scream 2. I dont think he needs to mention her constantly throughout the films.

I wish they hadn’t killed Randy off so soon in Scream 2. He would’ve made a good Scruffy substitute in a Scooby Doo sort of way. He could help solve crimes.

I like how they tacked on Randy having a sister in Scream 3 just to hand Sidney and Gale a tape 😄

Randy's sister has a cameo in 5.

Scream series jumped the shark when Dora the Explorer didn’t die in opening of 5. Now no one dies even if they’ve been stabbed a hundred times. Trash.

Why did Hayden Panatierre decide to talk like Annie Potts in this movie?

Was Mason Gooding in a car accident at some point? He has some scars on his face?

He was bit by his dog when he was a toddler.

The Bailey family is no Mrs. Loomis.

I watched Scream last night and i didn't really enjoy it. But maybe i'm just getting old? I thought the opening scene with Jenna was decent, but the rest?

- Everyone just came off as an asshole, like the twins didn't seem phased at all by the situation and neither did their mother.

- Why would Sam be seeing Billy exactly as he was in the final act?

- What was the point of Liv, Kyle Gallner's character or Wes (aside from mentioning his name a bunch of times)?

- Dewey's death was brutal but also stupid as was the whole abandoned hospital sequence and only leaving Tara with one police officer to protect her.

- Seeing Sidney and Gale in Stu's kitchen again just seemed completely ridiculous. The killers motive didn't really work for me either and i feel like Amber's actress was trying way too hard. I'm supposed to believe that bitch took Dewey out?

All valid points R212.

Major suspension of disbelief is required for all of the murders committed by the female GFs. We are supposed to believe that 90lb Jill Roberts really tossed a body off the roof of a parking garage.

Jill was the most psychotic and Amber had the best reveal but Mrs. Loomis was my favorite GF.

Amber really DID have the best reveal. She (and Richie) also had one of the worst motives.

Hayden Panettiere has excessive filler and Botox, seems like she’s on Xanax, slurs and can barely emote. Horrible actress.

Will the entire Blaxican cast return for Scream 7?

Yes, and they will still be attending MoreBlack University.

I lol’d when I saw “Blackmore University”

[quote]Hayden Panettiere has excessive filler and Botox, seems like she’s on Xanax, slurs and can barely emote. Horrible actress.

It's really sad. She was one of the best parts of Scream 4 but she's been through so much since then, she's a shell of her former self.

R221 what has she been through?

I suspected Amber but never thought she would reveal herself by randomly killing Liv out in the open. Her reveal was definitely the best but her motive was the worst and made no sense at all. I still think 6 has some problems but I’ll take the old revenge motive over the reboot/requel motive.

[quote] what has she been through?

Yellowstone Park, Rose.

One of the nice things about the new film is that it gives a shout out to all past killers and not just Billy and Stu. People associate Billy and Stu with Ghostface but I think Jill was arguably the most ruthless killer. She killed her mother, boyfriend, and friends for fame. Scream 4 had a contemporary relevance with 2011 being the height of social media.

Scream 3 is still the most fun Scream movie to watch and Roman the best Ghostface

Also rumors are that Jennifer Jolie will be back in Scream 7, she didn't die after all

The new film has a nod to her too

[quote]One of the nice things about the new film is that it gives a shout out to all past killers and not just Billy and Stu. People associate Billy and Stu with Ghostface but I think Jill was arguably the most ruthless killer. She killed her mother, boyfriend, and friends for fame. Scream 4 had a contemporary relevance with 2011 being the height of social media.

Jill was awesome, and I wish they would have let her live. She would've been a huge star from death row, all those incels fighting to do things for her.

R226 I just watched S3 again & I like it better than I remembered.

I forgot that the Mark in this one survived & is Sydney's baby daddy.

The black guy's fate in this one (was also presumed by some to be still among the living even thought he bled out so much) but I hope he's not brought back as he is a Elon Musk fan, against woke left politics & comes across as a fundie ala the Sister Sister gals that he co-starred with. He also is a big fan of P. Rashad who tirelessly defended creep Bill Cosby.

I think we can all agree Richie was the worst Ghostface. He made Amber do all the dirty work, his motive was lame, and nepo baby Jack Quaid was really not that menacing or attractive for that matter.

Top: Scream 1 and Scream 4. Memorable deaths, funny moments, strong villains. Story keeps moving.

Middle: Scream 2, Scream, 3, Scream 6. Strong deaths, funny moments, but some weak sections remain.

Bottom: Scream 5. Wholly unoriginal, boring rehash, unlikable actors.

OP is an idiot with shit taste if he thinks 3 with DL Patron Saint Parker Posey was the worst in the series.

Personal Ranking: 2,1, 3, 6, 4, 5

I love the college setting in 2, felt so late 90s.

Number 1 will always be the best! Followed by number 2.

4, 5, 6 and 3 have some great highs and lows. Some great characters and set pieces. Some really great opening scenes and some bad ones. The ending reveals can be both amazing and horrible.

Overall a great series where even the less than sequels are better than and more consistent than most horror franchises.

[Quote] what has she been through?

I take it you missed the street fight Hayden got into with her abusive boyfriend. I was surprised she came back for Scream 6.

Why does everyone hate on 4? I liked it a lot. 5 wasn't bad either.

I like they're subverting the opening has to have a kill and the main cast have to die. Very clever.

Scream 5 wasn't a Scream film. It wasn't even a horror film. It was a dreadful comedy.

The end when Gale smashed the Vodka bottle on the girl GF and kicked her into the flames lighting her up was epic.

R233 yes even the "worst" Scream is still pretty good, which a lot of franchises cannot say.

And dear cunt at R231, name some great things about that movie that aren't Jennifer Jolie. (crickets) exactly. And Parker herself isn't even a fan of it.

This was absolutely terrible. Ghostface was more powerful than I have ever seen him - Jason Vorhees level of stabbing and stalking. I don't know why they are trying to salvage all of this shitty. None of them with the sheer force they were stabbed would be able to be up and just walk it off. Gale would have been dead as a door nail. The black girl who got stabbed in the stomach with a huge blade on the subway was bandaged out and spewing witticisms in the final scene. Her brother would be dead. Terrible cast. Courtney Cox was the only thing to getting excited about and she's going too far with all the surgery - it was distracting.

Her lips reach her ears now.

She looks better now than she did in 4

Change the order R233. 3 & 4 are way better than 5 & 6. Anyone who can't see how bad the fifth movie really is, remains part of the problem.

Scream 1,2,3 are the only ones that count. It's becoming too formulaic, but I'm glad a new audience gets to enjoy it. Nothing will ever be as clever without Wes Craven.

I liked 4, I thought Jill's motive was good/solid. It's all about the motive for me. If it's something lame like "the Stab movies suck now, and we're trying to revive them!1," I lose interest. My only problem with 4 is the Culkin kid. He looks like a villain plus he's puny. I could kick his ass and I'm nothing special.

Billy, Mrs. Loomis, Roman, Jill, and the Baileys had the best motives. Amber and Richie had the worst. Stu, Mickey, the Culkin kid, and the two random GFs from 6 were meh.

I thought Courteney looked good. She looked older in 5. She had some good shots of her in 4. She looks more natural and prettier.

The Scream series is, by far, the most consistently good horror franchise. They stay very faithful to the formula without going to space, or being a zombie supernatural killer. The excessive stabs and surviving them is a Scream staple. It’s kinda of their thing. Dewey was the obvious example. EVERY movie has seen multiple people, Sydney and Gale, stabbed or shot multiple times and walk around. At the end of 5, Sydney and Gale, shot and stabbed, aren’t even rushed to the hospital! They’re sitting in the ambulance chatting away. That would NEVER happen, but it’s a part of Scream.

Dermot Mulroney was no Laurie Metcalf that's for sure.

Debbie Salt/Mrs. Loomis was the greatest villain in the series. Laurie Metcalf is brilliant.

[Quote] And Parker herself isn't even a fan of it.

That's a shame.

[Quote] I liked 4, I thought Jill's motive was good/solid. It's all about the motive for me.

Her monologue at the end wasn't very good. But Jill was definitely the most fucked up.

I think the kills are brutal but boring. Where are the kills like Rose McGowan getting her tits stuck in the garage door? The whole cast practically lived. The only kills were throwaway characters.

[Quote] The only kills were throwaway characters.

That's one of the problems. Olivia's death in Scream 4 was brutal but the character wasn't exactly memorable. And Anthony Anderson's was just silly.

R250 is an idiot. R249 is clearly talking about Scream 6 in which far too many new main cast members survived. Stop hating on Scream 4. It's hilarious, bloody and never becomes boring. The franchise needs to lean into more female killers. Mrs. Loomis & Jill are still the funniest, craziest, most memorable killers. They embrace the camp. The straight guys just come off as crazy rapist incels. Not as fun.

R214 Jill didn't kill the publicist in the garage, Charlie did. He's a guy. Men are stronger than women and he could've easily tossed her off the roof. Jill killed Charlie once she no longer had need of his services. That's another thing Scream 5 & 6 didn't do: have the killers turn on each other like they did in 1, 2, and 4.

R251. Thank you for helping make one of my points. The "white guy killers" aren't very convincing in their acting/selling the roles/motivations. Maybe if the first 2 guys were revealed to be lovers that would've helped them out in that area.

[quote] The whole cast practically lived.

What's the problem with that?

R251 grow the fuck up. Scream 6 was not the only one that had throwaway characters get killed. I don't have to share the same opinion as you on Jill or Scream 4. Get over yourself.

Kirby needed to eat something? I thought she looked fat... and they couldn't hem her jacket sleeves so they're not covering her hands? Plus she had a country accent somehow

None of the deaths in 6 were important characters, even if the kills were fun (the opening, the ladder, etc)

Who cares if they weren’t important. I loved how subversive it was to NOT kill any of the main characters. It was shocking and I loved it!

The one who wants a lot of the characters killed is a racist who rants about “white killers” and “the minorities who lived.” Fuck off Klan POS.

R258 calm your tits hun. When you have scenes like the subway and Chad getting gutted with at least 10 stab wounds and they’re just like…eh we’re fine, it undermines the scenes.

Unlike a lot of DL, I like Mindy but Chad is basically pointless but pretty.

I'd rank them: 1 > 2 > 3 = 4 > 5 = 6

They messed up Scream 3, but Sarah Darling had a great scene; Jennifer Jolie was a wonderfully comic character; Angelina Tyler had a fun moment; I liked the jealous sibling twist, as well as the Maureen Roberts backstory. It had Carrie Fisher as well.

Scream 4 was imperfect as well, but Emma Roberts' monologue at the end was one of the best scenes in the franchise. Kirby was a great new addition.

I just don't think Scream 5 and 6 are going to age well. Jenny Ortega is the only good thing about them. Otherwise, I hate the "Core Four."

I know Brian Tyler is their guy and he’s fine, but his music doesn’t touch Marco Beltrami. Should’ve kept him on.

Jill Roberts beating herself up was pretty awesome. They should have ended the movie there -- the hospital scene was trash.

Dermot and Henry Czerny should’ve switched roles. I think Henry would’ve been a much better papa Ghostface.

And whoever created/approved the main poster should be blacklisted. What a piece of shit.

I know Billy is like the Beyonce of Scream but Jill really is an underrated Ghostface. The other killers just wanted to kill Sidney. Yes Jill wanted to kill Sidney too but she did it for fame and the way she beat herself up to look like a victim/hero - a true psycho. Also, Jill did kill the publicist (Allison Brie). Charlie was talking with Trevor and Gale when she threw her body off the roof. She killed the publicist because the publicist wanted Sidney to leave Woodsboro.

Roman was the cutest and by far the smartest Ghostface - worked alone, bulletproof vest, tricked his victims, multiple voice changer, waited patiently for years to attack Sidney. He is the real GF. Part of me also feels bad for him - abandoned by his own mother.

Some of the men that raped Maureen must have been goodlooking and non Harvey-looking.

R264 I hated Emma Roberts’ shrill voice, such an annoying bitch.

Nothing is better than the first one. Billy Loomis and Stu. I can get over the suspension of disbelief that Emma Roberts who weighs 90 lbs soaking wet or Laurie Metcalf who doesn't weigh much more would be able to commit the murders.

Ala Scream, I had a friend who was convinced those Sorority murders in Idaho were committed by a woman, a close friend, and I was like there is no way. I was correct.

R268: Or Amber who weighs about the same gutting Dewey and Quinn killing the boyfriend while on the phone with Gale.

The ending sucked! The killers felt like caricatures. I hated the amazing “kills” being reversed so unrealistically. One okay but all of them just shows an inability to go there…I count five. The best part was the switch up when we revealed ghostface in the opening only to go and reverse that too. Was okay without Sidney but she should be brought back for the next or last.

Ranking the series for me - 1 and 2…4,6, and tie for last 3&5. Both had some good stuff.

R270 they’ll probably have to park a truckload of money at Neve’s house to bring her back and they’ll kill her character off

The next one should be the last. Bring it back to Woodsboro, reveal Stu to be alive, kill Gale and Sydney, cue the song that's been in every Scream movie since the first and be done with it.

Stu is dead and any reversal of that would be so fucking stupid.

If Mason can be stabbed 15 times and his sister can crack jokes after being filted, Stu can still be alive. He was supposed to be in Scream 3.

Radio Silence has some interesting ideas, but they're just not talented enough to really pull them off. They also like to be subversive in a bad way.

R275 Chad being alive is stupid. Stu was mentioned as being dead in 6.

Billy and Stu have been mentioned MANY times since 96. For him to be alive and no one having said anything….STUPID.

The series will go on forever like Fast and the Furious but they need to stop with the this is the most brutal and ruthless Ghostface platitudes. 6 wasn't any more gorier than 5.

[quote]Quinn killing the boyfriend while on the phone with Gale.

Yeah, that skinny little college girl overpowering Gale's BBC boyfriend was laughable.

A lot of Jill's victims were sitting down when she attacked them (Anthony Anderson's cop, maybe Adam Brody's cop, too? can't recall, her mom).

Gale is a great character and her arch is not finished by a long shot. Dewey dying makes Gale need to get major revenge on a GF killer.

Gale's character arches are fallen, r280.

R281 Exactly which is why she needs more redemption.

Gale's arch didn't fall. She's a flawed, and interesting, character who is good at heart but has huge ambitions which cause her to fuck things up. They've really written her poorly lately. She is the most interesting legacy character. If they were smart they'd capitalize on that.

I say bring back the red streaks.

Killing Gale off in 7, which they'll do, would be such a waste.

It pissed me off Gale was saved, after putting up a ferocious fight, by someone else instead of saving herself. Then again Sydney is often saved by others, too.

Jill is my favorite because I love the idea of this character being set up as a next generation Sidney, but is actually the mastermind and almost gets away with it. Emma Roberts is not the best actress, but she doesn't ruin it. I really wish the original plan for 5 had panned out (minus the whole amnesia thing).

R287: Jill came the closest to killing Sidney but she was one of the stupidest killers. If she hadn't told Dewey about her and Gale's matching wounds, she would've gotten away with it. Ruthless bitch killed her own mother in order to be the new Sidney. I don't think any of the others would've committed matricide and even Mrs. Loomis and the Bailey Family took on the mantle in order to exact revenge on behalf of their children who were GFs themselves.

Mrs. Loomis is my favorite - the white outfit, her newspaper reporter persona, how she took out Mickey, how she went from gun to knife, and Laurie Metcalf's superb ability to elevate the campy material.

Some of the killers were more obvious than others but the Jill reveal was a real shock because she was in nearly every scene.

What moron approved that shit poster?

Do not get the love for Jill. It was like watching community theater. Emma Roberts was terrible.

Bump

Gale's camera guy from Scream 2 (Joel, played by Duane Martin) should make a return, even if it's a cameo. There aren't that many major/ minor characters who have survived but then never reappeared.

Joel had his head on straight. I'm glad he lived.

[quote]The directors said they felt guilty about killing Dewey and thus didn't want to kill any legacy or new character in this latest installment. I highly suggest that they kill one of Sam, Tara, Mindy, or Chad in Scream Seven. They're all so charisma free and this Core Four being all minorities just screams (pardon the pun) stunt casting.

I think Mindy will die in Scream Seven. I can see being a copycat of Uncle Randy's death in the van from Scream 2.

The Radio Silence directors basically make feel good Scream movies where everybody makes it out all happy and alive despite being stabbed 50 times. One of the Core Four has to go in the next one and it seems like the knives are out (pun intended) for either Mindy or Tara.

I could see them copying Halloween Kills and killing off Tara to make Sam go on some kind of revenge quest similar to Laurie Strode after Karen was killed. . I could a GF killer being a relative of Stu Macher wanting some kind of revenge against Billy's love child.

IMO they've done enough with the Stu Macher line already: Amber lived in his old house, and his nephew was a victim in Scream 5.

I think Tara's the only one who's guaranteed to be safe, since Ortega's the biggest star (outside the franchise) at this point. Unless she wants out and agrees to be an opening victim.

Any of the others should be up for grabs, and one or more should go.

Sam's boyfriend will probably be offed in the next movie.

Do we know if the Radio Silence directors (Matt & Tyler) are on our team?

The director Tyler is pretty cute.

[quote] Some of the men that raped Maureen must have been goodlooking and non Harvey-looking.

It's been a few years since I have watched Scream 3. But, did Roman ever indicate killing the other guys involved in the rape before killing Lance Henriksen's character in front of Sidney?

The friend group should have had at least 2 more members so these reveals aren’t as shocking.

I thought for sure the Scream director Tyler was going to be gay but according to IG he’s been married to a female screenwriter for ten years. No kids just a dog.

[Quote] But, did Roman ever indicate killing the other guys involved in the rape before killing Lance Henriksen's character in front of Sidney?

No, just Milton. Roman seems to put the blame squarely on him for what happened to Rina Reynolds.

Yeah, Roman needed to track down Daddy and go after him and his friends. Instead, he went after his (traumatized) mother. The whole thing is really disturbing, actually. Roman and his White Male Energy really felt entitled to his mother, who he knew had been raped/taken advantage of, and his innocent half-sister's life. Why?

Same goes for Billy Loomis. Why didn't he kill his cheating father? Nancy Loomis also seemed to place the blame on Maureen, while her adulterous ex-husband was allowed to slink into the background.

I actually felt sorry for Roman. Abandoned and rejected by his own mother.

Sidney's whore of a mother is the real villain and cause of everything in the series.

Now that I think about it, there was maybe enough evidence that Milton could have been Roman's father.

I think 3 basically implied that Milton was Roman's father.

R311 Maureen was definitely gangraped but as Milton was the ringleader, Roman may have just assumed/decided he was his father. No mention of a DNA test or anything.

Who's the GF you'd most like to bottom for or suck off?

Milton seemed to have a closer-than-you'd-expect relationship with Roman. He was mentoring him, hosting his birthday party, etc. Also, Maureen's movie credits were all his, so we know they slept together back in the day.

R314 none of them. I'd pick Derek (Jerry O'connell).

R314: Roman!

They should bring back Tatum.

Just let Rose McGowan go batshit crazy.

"See this what happens when you get crushed in the doggy door! And those ashes Dewey had was from a barbeque!"

How's that for legacy?

Finally saw this, my thoughts as an extremely scream nerd

New York scene was done extremely well, they had a fancy restaurant, a back alley, dorm rooms, a brownstone, a luxurious penthouse, a movie theater and subway and a movie theater.

The opening was grest, among top three at least. After 5, they managed previous trauma very well. Scream 5 characters were given some pathos.

More violence, the killings were brutal, lots of knives through the eyes, face, etc, but not sp gory as advirtesd. Scream 4;had the most gruesome death

Much better than 5 except for the ending. This ending was the worse part..

Kudos for the gayle scene.

Finally three points:

. Dermot was easily guessed. He mentioned another son where there was no further reference to it, so it was rshter obvious. Also in the subway scene there were only two other characters outside, he was part of it,

- spre scream 3 agreed completely os the worse one, most of the deaths are too sanitized, lots of characters you are not sire are dead as the murderers are to clean, notably parker posey, the best thing of it, even the opening is sort of meh (the worse opening os the metamscream 4)

- the number of people who survive, considering injuries, is ridiculous.

Overall, except for the last 15 minutes enjoyed it tremendously.

It's out on Amazon Prime today so I finally watched it. I think it's not without its problems but yes a definite improvement over 5. The chase sequences in particular were thrilling and well choreographed. I'm glad this time no legacy characters died and the motive was simple and relatable. I even liked the Demi Lovato song. As for the ending, I didn't think it was that bad as everyone was saying but yeah Chad surviving after so many stab wounds was ridiculous. I still think they need to get rid of the prolonged Billy appearances and Mindy's monologues but thankfully they kept both of those at a minimum this time around.

I think Jason will be forgotten quickly but I wonder if he technically counts as a Ghostface since he wore the costume, used the voice modulator, and killed at least one person.

R321 I think future sequels could tie Jason in somehow by having a friend or relative of his go on Ghostface killing spree to "complete" his mission. I know it would be the same as what Richie's family did, but in horror movie franchises things get recycled.

This won best movie at the MTV Movie Awards. The first time since the original.

I enjoyed this a lot more than I expected. Some great set pieces and lots of tension. And, I must admit, I didn't miss Neve as much as I thought I would. In fact, I thought even Gale - aside from the excellent, tension-filled sequence in her hi-rise - wasn't really needed either.

Melissa was much better in this sequel. But it's ridiculous that both Mindy and Chad survived. I like both of them but they were pretty brutalized, especially Chad.

It was nice to see Hayden again but she didn't look off to me. I know Hayden's had to deal with a lot in the past few years, though.

What a joke. This series is like sloppy latinx fan fiction. All killers will be white of course. The new prejudice agenda.

R325: The directors are two white guys. Go figure.

Wow! I thought Scream 5 was bad, but then I watched Scream 6. 💩

The killers in the first four movies from 1996-2011 were all white, before there even were any Latino characters or anyone was shrieking about "woke," so it hardly seems like any kind of agenda. (I believe Sidney's roommate in 2, who was Black, was supposed to be one of the killers in the original ending before it was leaked and they changed it. The script is online.)

R328 not talking about the og trilogy bew. Stay on topic.

Jason was soooooo white :P

[quote](I believe Sidney's roommate in 2, who was Black, was supposed to be one of the killers in the original ending before it was leaked and they changed it. The script is online.)

Interesting. I'm going to have to read that, I'd like to know what her motive was supposed to be.

Probably more or less the same motivation as the Olyphant character, r331? Her whole role would have been altered.

[quote]Probably more or less the same motivation as the Olyphant character, [R331]? Her whole role would have been altered.

Oh, so both were active serial killers off of a messageboard? Like Richie and Amber and that idiotic bullshit that was Scream 5? I'm glad that got axed and Mrs. Loomis was brought in on Scream 2. Debbie Salt was such a fun Ghostface and her motive was of course A+.

[Quote] (I believe Sidney's roommate in 2, who was Black, was supposed to be one of the killers in the original ending before it was leaked and they changed it. The script is online.)

They still could have stuck with that. Spoilers wouldn't have ruined it for everyone like they can now when something is leaked.

[Quote] Debbie Salt was such a fun Ghostface and her motive was of course A+.

Just good old fashioned revenge.

It would have been fun if Laurie Metcalfe would have been in part VI as the ghost of Debbie Salt/Nancy Loomis and appeared to Sam and asked to be called "Grandma Ghostface".

People claiming Melissa Barrera was a better actress in 6 vs 5 are embarrassing. She has the dead eyed charisma free persona of kim Kardashian.

Debbie Salt/Mrs. Loomis was always the ultimate villain in Scream 2. In the original script, Derek (the boyfriend) and Hallie (the roommate) were the killers who she was working with the same way she did Mickey in the final version. So it would have felt a lot like the ultimate ending of the 2022 Scream. There are a few interviews with Kevin Williamson where he claims this was always a dummy draft, but why would they include the Mrs. Loomis reveal in the dummy draft and let that get out? Seems like that would be a bigger secret to keep.

Here's one of the sites that have it:

Another link in case that one's wonky. (It's rough, but some of Mickey's lines remain the same coming from Derek and Hallie.)

I'm glad they didn't have Derek be one of the killers. Another psychotic boyfriend would be too much.

R336: Seriously who she is blowing?

Even though it hasn't been announced we all know Scream 7 is happening. I'm hoping they listen to these suggestions:

1. Kill one of the Core Four - preferably Mindy or Tara.

2. It's time to move on from the Richie Kirsch storyline. Don't make Richie's mom the killer in the next installment.

3. Don't bring Sidney back. She wasn't missed and Neve will phone it in if brought back.

4. Kirby's voice sounded really weird. Maybe not bring her back next time.

5. Move the story out of NYC. It was so obvious that they were in Canada.

6. Don't put in too many obvious clues as to the killers' identities - Dermot talking about "losing a son"

7. Stop with the Billy hallucinations - they don't work.