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Scream VI (Spoiler Thread)

I've seen it. I like it more than 5.

My personal ranking: 1, 2, 4, 6, 5, 3.

by Anonymousreply 341May 21, 2023 4:03 AM

Pros:

A really inventive opening scene.

Melissa's acting is a lot better.

Ghost Billy only appears twice and briefly.

The violence is really brutal, one of the most of the franchise.

Gale lives, just barely, but she puts up a hell of a fight before getting stabbed a few times. Dewey's lame death is NOT repeated.

Lot of eye candy for the gays and girls.

Lot of nods to past killers who aren't Billy and Stu.

by Anonymousreply 1March 9, 2023 7:47 AM

Cons:

A romance subplot between Jenna Ortega and Mason Gooding, who have 0 chemistry.

The main killer (there are multiple) kind of flops during the motive scene at the end

I'm sure I'll have more thoughts but wanted to get this rolling for my fellow Horror Queens..

by Anonymousreply 2March 9, 2023 7:50 AM

Who’s the killer or killers?

by Anonymousreply 3March 9, 2023 7:50 AM

R3 Richie's Dad and two siblings. Dad is no Debbie Salt, I'll say that much. He wasn't bad, but you of course immediately compare it to the end of Scream 2, and there's only one Laurie Metcalf.

by Anonymousreply 4March 9, 2023 7:54 AM

Two siblings? Names?

BTW, motive?

by Anonymousreply 5March 9, 2023 7:55 AM

Oh, god, they’re pulling a Scream 2? The last film was god-awful. It was Scream on a budget. How are people interested in this stale shit that’s repeating itself?

by Anonymousreply 6March 9, 2023 7:56 AM

R5 I was trying to be a little vague in case someone falls in by mistake.

The motive is revenge for Richie. Obviously.

R6 if you hated 5, give this one a chance. It's definitely an improvement.

by Anonymousreply 7March 9, 2023 7:57 AM

There's also a nod to real world conspiracy theories. It's widely chatted by the Scream version of QAnon idiots that Sam was the killer in 5 and framed Richie and Amber.

by Anonymousreply 8March 9, 2023 7:59 AM

Did anyone watch the MTV series? How’d they keep the Ghostface killer thing going with that?

by Anonymousreply 9March 9, 2023 9:47 AM

If true, Gale should live though they’ve not really written her up to par in 4 or 5.

by Anonymousreply 10March 9, 2023 12:21 PM

Does Kirby survive?

by Anonymousreply 11March 9, 2023 12:42 PM

Really OP? You prefer 4 and 5 over 3?

by Anonymousreply 12March 9, 2023 11:40 PM

I'm assuming Neve had the good sense to leave this mess behind.

by Anonymousreply 13March 9, 2023 11:43 PM

R12 you were a shining spot in a lesser entry, my love

R11 yes.

R13 she passed over money

by Anonymousreply 14March 9, 2023 11:44 PM

From what I’ve heard, Gale’s chase/kill is one of the best in the franchise.

by Anonymousreply 15March 10, 2023 12:02 AM

R15 correct. They very much did not give her a lame scene like Dewey's death.

One thing that's funny: in every movie from 3 on, they use ONE photo from Courteney and David's marriage. It's like in the decade or so that they were together, Gale and Dewey picked up a camera ONCE

by Anonymousreply 16March 10, 2023 12:30 AM

Wait, Gale died? Noooooooo!

by Anonymousreply 17March 10, 2023 12:38 AM

R17 she lives, but barely. She takes a BEATING

by Anonymousreply 18March 10, 2023 12:40 AM

Does she at least give as good as she gets?

This should have been the movie Gale kicks some ass and takes out a GF all by herself.

by Anonymousreply 19March 10, 2023 12:42 AM

R19 yes. It's a hell of a fight.

by Anonymousreply 20March 10, 2023 12:45 AM

Tell me about Jack Champion the Avatar twink

by Anonymousreply 21March 10, 2023 12:51 AM

R21 underwritten character, no shirtless scenes.

by Anonymousreply 22March 10, 2023 12:56 AM

R22 shame, thought he would be the gay character in the show

by Anonymousreply 23March 10, 2023 12:58 AM

I do have some issues with the way they’ve written Gale since 3. She’s a really popular character, she’s also badass like Sidney, but more interesting. She didn’t really have any great scenes in either 4 or 5. It sounds like she finally gets a good one in 6, but she’s almost defeated and doesn’t take out a Ghostface. Maybe I’ll be happy with the fight she puts up and Ghostface didn’t end of killing her so I don’t know. I feel they’ve really missed a lot of opportunities with her character. Kevin Williamson was originally going to make her the center of one of the newer films when he was still involved along with Dewey. Reportedly Gale was Wes’ favorite characters and forbid her being killed off.

by Anonymousreply 24March 10, 2023 1:01 AM

From what I’ve heard, this movie is very satisfying and subverts who you think will die and I am actually very happy about what was done.

The only negative I’ve heard is how the last act plays out. Apparently, it went a tad campy (this is one aspect of Scream I wish they’d nix).

In the end, I’d like Sidney and Gale being the sole survivors.

by Anonymousreply 25March 10, 2023 1:08 AM

Do they mention Sidney in this film?

by Anonymousreply 26March 10, 2023 1:10 AM

R26 briefly

by Anonymousreply 27March 10, 2023 1:12 AM

Please tell me Chad doesn't die! I won't go see it if he does.

by Anonymousreply 28March 10, 2023 1:13 AM

The NYT review has a funny mention of Neve Campbell.

it’s also the first “Scream” without Neve Campbell’s Sidney, which goes to show that Hollywood contract negotiations are more horrifyingly fatal than any cinematic maniac.

by Anonymousreply 29March 10, 2023 1:15 AM

R28 you and I have very opposite feelings. He's VERY hot, but the character is a nothing burger. They need to throw him on the body pile in 7.

I wanted him dead in 5, I wanted him dead in 6, I still do.

by Anonymousreply 30March 10, 2023 1:18 AM

Mason Gooding makes me very wet and I’m a guy.

by Anonymousreply 31March 10, 2023 1:23 AM

The actress playing Mindy is almost as bad as Melissa.

by Anonymousreply 32March 10, 2023 1:26 AM

Courtney Cox looks…..good in this. Whatever she did, or undid, or didn’t do, works.

by Anonymousreply 33March 10, 2023 1:28 AM

The Youtube channel DrumDums has apparently been getting a lot of flack for saying he didn't care for this.

Good grief folks, wait until the dust settles and the paid hypers for this are no longer on payroll before you cast judgement on him.

by Anonymousreply 34March 10, 2023 1:35 AM

It's pretty obvious who at least two of the killers are. When you see a character covered in blood but didn't actually see them attacked? Likely fake. Then that character has a family member who is also in the film, vowing to avenge the (fake) death. Well, there's two Ghostface killers.

There are technically five in this film.

by Anonymousreply 35March 10, 2023 1:46 AM

Yes, the opening is clever and you won’t see it coming.

Yes, there are technically 5 GF killers.

CC does look good. Really good.

Sidney wasn’t missed. It becomes too much about her in every film. Others need to shine which is why I agree Gale should have been given more.

by Anonymousreply 36March 10, 2023 1:49 AM

At the theater about to watch so as I go in the last 5 minutes of the last show are on and I see who all survives just as another character runs up naming the 2 killers and the others add a 3rd name.

Usually when I enter a theater the shit on screen is Maria Menounos or the M&Ms.

Oh well I'm sure I'll still enjoy it.

by Anonymousreply 37March 10, 2023 1:52 AM

R33 she stopped fucking with her face around 2016.

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by Anonymousreply 38March 10, 2023 1:54 AM

She did something and she has fucked with her face since 2016 because she looked horrible in part of that Friends reunion. She looked good, to me, in part 4. She looked old, but good, in part 5. She looks older, but better than part 5, in part 6.

by Anonymousreply 39March 10, 2023 1:56 AM

[quote]Others need to shine which is why I agree Gale should have been given more.

This movie tells us that Gale never spoke to Ghostface on the phone before now. That's interesting but it's true. I kinda hope that they don't bring Sidney back after this. Gale can carry the nostalgia on her own.

by Anonymousreply 40March 10, 2023 1:57 AM

R39 she looked terrible in 4.

by Anonymousreply 41March 10, 2023 1:58 AM

R41 I didn’t think so and many I know feel the same. I know many feel she looked terrible, too. I’m just happy she looked good in this one.

by Anonymousreply 42March 10, 2023 1:59 AM

I guess I'm just old but I don't care about these lackluster Gen Zers/Millennials. I'd only watch to see Courteney Cox or somebody of my age group.

by Anonymousreply 43March 10, 2023 2:09 AM

R43 not many slashers about 50 year olds getting chased

by Anonymousreply 44March 10, 2023 2:22 AM

True R44, that's why if I want to see a slasher flick I'll just rewatch a Halloween or Friday the 13th.

by Anonymousreply 45March 10, 2023 2:25 AM

Hayden Panettiere had more fillers than Courtney Cox did.

The actress that played Samantha Carpenter kept on reminding me of a Kardashian pre-plastic surgery / makeup / fillers

The neighbor at the adjacent apartment was hot. Was the window peaking thing a reference to Friends?

by Anonymousreply 46March 10, 2023 3:32 AM

*window peeking

by Anonymousreply 47March 10, 2023 3:34 AM

The Drew Barrymore part in this film was played by Margot Robbie-lite

by Anonymousreply 48March 10, 2023 3:37 AM

Courteney Cox brought her beautiful daughter Coco Arquette as her date to the world premiere of her highly-anticipated horror film, Scream VI, at the AMC Lincoln Square Theater in New York City on Monday night.

While attending the star-studded screening, the 58-year-old Friends star and teenager, 18, who she shares with ex David Arquette, rocked a black minidress, velvet blazer, semi-sheer tights and a pair of matching stilettos.

The Golden Globe nominee completed her look with a pair of gorgeous hoop earrings, a $17,500 diamond Tennis necklace and one-of-a kind white gold onyx and diamond circle ring by Jennifer Meyer.

by Anonymousreply 49March 10, 2023 3:38 AM

pics.

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by Anonymousreply 50March 10, 2023 3:39 AM

Look. I am crushing on Mason Gooding. I hate slasher movies.I just want to know if the only reason for me to see it is Mason, is it worth going to see it?

by Anonymousreply 51March 10, 2023 3:54 AM

R51 Yes, and Mason is so hot it hurts. The movie is good. Of course they go a bit off the rails at the end, but up until then, it’s very good and very tense.

by Anonymousreply 52March 10, 2023 4:00 AM

I wish they had surprised us and made Sydney the killer.

by Anonymousreply 53March 10, 2023 4:10 AM

No problem with him as a Nepo baby?

by Anonymousreply 54March 10, 2023 4:11 AM

R53 That would be so fucking stupid. Seriously. Like, what? That is a jump the shark moment. Same if they made Gale, who would have more motive (ambitious, writes about the murders), but still, it would be a jump the shark moment.

by Anonymousreply 55March 10, 2023 4:25 AM

Throughout the movie, I went back and forth on whether or not I liked this. By the end, I decided I did. It' a step up from 5, even though it still has issues with the writing, casting and even worse killers.

The opening felt like something out of Tales from the Crypt. Very refreshing for this franchise. But I wish Samara Weaving had a bigger role. Maybe have her be the fakeout death and Richie's sister instead of Lianna Liberato.

Dermot Mulroney and Hayden Panettiere are hilariously bad. Especially the former.

by Anonymousreply 56March 10, 2023 5:38 AM

R9 we dont talk about that abortion

by Anonymousreply 57March 10, 2023 5:43 AM

Billy’s mother will always be Debbie. Not Nancy.

by Anonymousreply 58March 10, 2023 5:44 AM

They limited Sidney Prescott when they made her a mom. It was dumb for her to leave the kids at home to run around after GF killers in Scream 4. Leave that to the authorities, lady! Stay at home with her kids who need you.

Gale is the True Final Girl in this franchise.

by Anonymousreply 59March 10, 2023 5:53 AM

^ Scream (2022), not Scream 4...

by Anonymousreply 60March 10, 2023 5:54 AM

R59 you mean 5? It made sense. Dewey, the only useful cop was dead. She could either go on the offense and kill the killer or what for them to show up at her door.

by Anonymousreply 61March 10, 2023 5:55 AM

It really didn't make sense for a mom of three to charge into the fray like that, putting herself at risk. She should've been in the Witness Protection Program if she was truly afraid... if any of this were based in reality, which it's not.

Anyway, I'm glad she's gone. Her story is complete.

by Anonymousreply 62March 10, 2023 6:02 AM

R62 I agree with you that I'm fine if she had her happy ending, but she did try hiding before (in 3).

by Anonymousreply 63March 10, 2023 6:16 AM

I'm just glad the movie was better than the "Made in 10 minutes on a deadline" poster.

by Anonymousreply 64March 10, 2023 6:17 AM

R9 I never bothered with the series. But I like the promo they did with the actors from other MTV shows.

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by Anonymousreply 65March 10, 2023 6:36 AM

I miss Marco Beltrami

by Anonymousreply 66March 10, 2023 8:49 AM

I agree Gale is the true Final Girl and she’s the best character in the franchise prior to 4. They’re neutered her since.

by Anonymousreply 67March 10, 2023 1:00 PM

I guessed the killers both times because duh… all this series is now is a tired retread with minority actors instead of whites and where the equation is minorities=good, white people=bad. Welcome to the new Hollyweird racism. So the killers in this one are the white family avenging the white killer from 2022

Even the girl who taunts the Melissa B character on the street is white. Whities are the worst!!! So evil!!!

by Anonymousreply 68March 10, 2023 1:55 PM

^white fragility in action

by Anonymousreply 69March 10, 2023 2:20 PM

R68 and they still can't have a gay or bisexual MALE character, despite the fact that the series was created by a gay man and the movies have a huge gay male fanbase

Instead we get a lesbian, who gets to make out with a girl in Scream 5 AND survive

In all honesty, the straight guy Scream fans, judging from Facebook groups, would have an epic snowflake meltdown if they brought on a gay/bi male character, these are the same people who have been calling ALL gay men groomers ie pedophiles but they sure have no problems with lesbians

Gay men really do get treated the worst

by Anonymousreply 70March 10, 2023 3:14 PM

Still not confirming if Stu Macher is alive or dead.

Wasn't the actress playing Sidney in Scream 3 also a Ghostface but editing fucked all that up.

They should bring her back as a pissed off GF not getting the recognition she deserved.

by Anonymousreply 71March 10, 2023 3:18 PM

It’s so formulaic and the new cast is so bland and uninteresting. I’ll give Scream 7 a pass at this point.

by Anonymousreply 72March 10, 2023 3:19 PM

Sidney needs to snap and murder the new cast.

by Anonymousreply 73March 10, 2023 3:20 PM

They could EASILY bring back Parker Posey as Jennifer Jolie in Scream 7

Yes she was stabbed and shot once but she fell to the floor and was never confirmed dead, Gail, Dewey and Sidney survived worse

They could continue having Jennifer be obsessed with Gail Weather's and she left acting to become a reporter like Gail and the two go at it as rivals

Hilarity ensues

by Anonymousreply 74March 10, 2023 3:23 PM

They definitely gave away too much in the trailer.

by Anonymousreply 75March 10, 2023 5:38 PM

Does anybody know what the deal was with the aged ghostface mask? I don’t think it was adequately explained why the mask looks so different.

by Anonymousreply 76March 10, 2023 5:44 PM

Not that it’s saying much but I think 6 is slightly better than 5. Still nothing can compare to the Wes Craven films. I don’t know why people love to shit on 3. 3 is a masterpiece compared to 5 and 6.

by Anonymousreply 77March 10, 2023 5:51 PM

I hate the new cast. They're all so unimpressive and unlikable. Seriously who are Jenna, Melissa, and Yasmin blowing in Hollywood?

by Anonymousreply 78March 10, 2023 5:55 PM

They were so trying to pull a Scream 2 but nobody can beat the great Laurie Metcalf.

by Anonymousreply 79March 10, 2023 5:57 PM

There's a scene in the trailer with Dermot with a gun and a bruise on his head. I thought there's no way they would put that in the trailer so I was in the minority that it wasn't gonna be him. I thought it was going to be Ethan and Quinn or Ethan and Anika. I knew the motive would have something to do with either Richie or Amber. So overall I would say this was a pretty easy Scream to figure out. Next time they shouldn't reveal so much in the trailer.

by Anonymousreply 80March 10, 2023 5:59 PM

Does anybody know what the post credit scene is? I had to take a piss didn't want to stay until the end of the credits!

by Anonymousreply 81March 10, 2023 6:17 PM

Hilarious that Samara Weaving was the first kill of the movie.

by Anonymousreply 82March 10, 2023 6:25 PM

Neve could stay relevant forever and laugh all the way to the bank with this franchise. I don't have much sympathy for her "value" not being reflected.

by Anonymousreply 83March 10, 2023 6:45 PM

Of course Mason Gooding is hot. He comes from good genes. His grandfather was gorgeous. Yes. Grandfather. He belonged to a singing group my mother used to love. The Main Ingredient. Here's a sample of his voice. Golden voice. Lead singer.

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by Anonymousreply 84March 10, 2023 7:04 PM

The opening was pretty clever and hilarious. This definitely felt like a throwback to Scream 2. A parent seeking revenge, the subway scene being an homage to Scream 2 opening, the big finale taking place inside a theater. There will be a Scream 7 for sure.

by Anonymousreply 85March 10, 2023 7:09 PM

Well, what must Richie's mother think after all this? She's around somewhere... early prediction for Scream 7.

by Anonymousreply 86March 10, 2023 7:44 PM

Is this movie gory or just suspenseful. Because I can do suspense but not gore.

by Anonymousreply 87March 10, 2023 7:46 PM

R87: It's basically torture porn at this point. Of course they say each and every time that this Scream will be the most brutal and more gorier than the last. Honestly, I thought this really wasn't that scary or gory.

by Anonymousreply 88March 10, 2023 7:49 PM

This was an improvement. They definitely read the bad Scream 5 reviews.

by Anonymousreply 89March 10, 2023 8:29 PM

I was really hoping they would kill off Mason Gooding. I just hate his nepo baby personality and face.

by Anonymousreply 90March 10, 2023 9:12 PM

I was hoping they'd kill off Mindy. Her exposition monologues are so cringeworthy. Can the girl take an acting class or something?

by Anonymousreply 91March 10, 2023 9:18 PM

R91: I know right. Like I said I think she and Melissa Barrera and Jenna Ortega are blowing the same guy in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 92March 10, 2023 9:23 PM

Dermot looks like shit and was really terrible in this.

by Anonymousreply 93March 10, 2023 9:24 PM

The directing duo on this film (Radio Silence) said that they want to do a sequel to Ready or Not. I really hope it happens -- that movie was so much fun. The actors from that film who were in Scream 6 were really under-used IMO.

by Anonymousreply 94March 10, 2023 9:33 PM

R91 The actress is quite good in Yellowjackets. I think it’s more of an issue of the writing for her Scream character than her acting ability.

by Anonymousreply 95March 10, 2023 9:41 PM

[quote]Does anybody know what the deal was with the aged ghostface mask? I don’t think it was adequately explained why the mask looks so different.

It was Billy's mask from the original killings which would make it nearly 30 yrs old.

by Anonymousreply 96March 10, 2023 9:55 PM

R87 - NYT says : In one of its gruesome kills, a knife doesn’t just go for the throat, it shoves it down and twists....There are a couple of truly frightening, patiently established suspense scenes, including one inside a subway car during Halloween that’s filled with people in costumes of horror villains, including multiple Ghostfaces. It’s a nicely staged vignette that, in keeping with the spirit of “Scream,” operates as a meta commentary on the glut of scary movies. But it’s tricky business balancing disturbing terror and jokey film criticism, and while this sequel occasionally pulls it off, the weight of obligations to the dictates of the franchise ultimately drags it down."

by Anonymousreply 97March 10, 2023 10:06 PM

They should do a dream sequence with all past ghostfaces for Scream 7.

by Anonymousreply 98March 10, 2023 11:07 PM

Some of the leaks turned out to be true like Quinn faking her death and Samara Weaving and Tony Revolori being the opening kill.

by Anonymousreply 99March 11, 2023 1:22 AM

Jason and Greg - Wayne Bailey

Bodega Clerk - Wayne Bailey

Dr. Stone - Wayne Bailey

Anika - Wayne Bailey

Gale attack - Quinn

Mindy attack - Quinn

Chad attack - Quinn and Ethan

by Anonymousreply 100March 11, 2023 1:41 AM

R68 JFC you’re fucking insane. I bet your mom wishes she aborted your sorry pathetic ass.

by Anonymousreply 101March 11, 2023 2:04 AM

[Quote] I hate the new cast. They're all so unimpressive and unlikable. Seriously who are Jenna, Melissa, and Yasmin blowing in Hollywood?

I have to agree with R95 . Jasmin is good on Yellowjackets and i don't get the hype over Jenna either but i don't think there's any blowing going on. Neither of them are straight.

by Anonymousreply 102March 11, 2023 2:29 AM

Jasmin's gay IRL

by Anonymousreply 103March 11, 2023 2:46 AM

Her gfs cute too. I wonder if she ever hooked up with Javicia.

by Anonymousreply 104March 11, 2023 3:17 AM

[quote]The neighbor at the adjacent apartment was hot.

I've found Josh Segarra to be hot as fuck since I first saw him in the series "The Other Two". Though he's underutilized in [bold]Scream VI[/bold], at least we're treated to a gratuitous shirtless scene with him.

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by Anonymousreply 105March 11, 2023 4:27 AM

R105: I agree he's very cute.

by Anonymousreply 106March 11, 2023 4:44 AM

Peter K Rosenthal's review

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by Anonymousreply 107March 11, 2023 5:13 AM

R105: Too bad he can't act for shit.

by Anonymousreply 108March 11, 2023 6:18 AM

I guessed the killer because they laid a clue early on about Quinn's brother dying and that's why her father transferred to NYC as a cop. Didn't guess that the nerd was the other brother. Dermot looks haggard AF. Does he drink?

I think Eva Longorria should play the mother of Jenna and Melissa in the inevitable Scream 7.

Whiole you saw people in costumes, the city didn't look particularly seasonal.

I enjoyed the movie. Many of the set pieces were fun. I was partcularly disturbed by the bodega and subway scenes. I think in the next one, the two sisters should be the Ghostfaces getting revenge on asshole social media types and just end the franchise on that note.

by Anonymousreply 109March 11, 2023 6:27 AM

R109: Dermot looks like shit. He’s somebody who really has no business being in a Scream movie. Quinn does mention a brother dying and after she fakes her death Dermot says something like now I lost a daughter and a son. Those were total dead giveaways.

by Anonymousreply 110March 11, 2023 6:48 AM

When trying to figure out who the ghostface killer or killers may be, I find that a good rule of thumb is to pick the people who are the strangest looking or least attractive.

by Anonymousreply 111March 11, 2023 6:51 AM

Samara Weaving is supposed to be this cool college film professor, but she acts like a spaz on her tinder date. I like her dress - it's conservative and sexy at the same time. I really wanted more from her character as well as a longer chase sequence.

by Anonymousreply 112March 11, 2023 9:38 AM

I hope Dermot Mulroney wins the Razzie next year.

by Anonymousreply 113March 11, 2023 9:45 AM

R110 I was about to say Samara is a little young but i just googled and she's 2 years younger than me 😭

by Anonymousreply 114March 11, 2023 9:46 AM

Oops that was meant for R112

by Anonymousreply 115March 11, 2023 9:47 AM

R109 I agree, Halloween and NYC weren't really utilized that much.

by Anonymousreply 116March 11, 2023 9:50 AM

Agreed with this guy.

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by Anonymousreply 117March 11, 2023 10:04 AM

Some of these characters got stabbed/slashed and then were laughing and totally fine less than a day later. The Yellowjackets actress almost had her arm cut off but the following scenes didn't show even the bulk of a bandage through her shirt. Then she got stabbed in the stomach on the subway and was running around and joking with the other survivors at the end of the film.

Were the directors drunk when they filmed this? I know it's ~a movie~ but c'mon. At least characters in his Scream movies staggered around after getting attacked.

by Anonymousreply 118March 11, 2023 4:42 PM

^That should read, "Wes would never." I just woke up.

Dewey survived the first Scream and limped in every scene afterwards until he was killed. Maybe David Arquette is a better actor than I've given him credit for.

by Anonymousreply 119March 11, 2023 5:01 PM

Looks like it is "killing" at the box office and set to make it's highest opening weekend of the franchise.

by Anonymousreply 120March 11, 2023 5:02 PM

Can't believe that was Jack Champion. He was a hot twink in Avatar 2.

He looked like Jesse Eisenberg's more Aspie, socially inept younger brother who transitioning.

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by Anonymousreply 121March 11, 2023 6:29 PM

R121: Um I wouldn’t exactly describe him as hot.

by Anonymousreply 122March 11, 2023 7:37 PM

[quote]Some of these characters got stabbed/slashed and then were laughing and totally fine less than a day later.

Yeah, it happens over & over again in the movie. To me, the worst case of this was Chad. We see him repeatedly stabbed in the chest with big ol' hunting knives by 2 Ghost Faces simultaneously, yet he's still found alive some time later. I mean, even if he hadn't died immediately, wouldn't he have bled out before then?

I think Mason Gooding is hot, so I'm glad he lives to see another sequel -- but I can only suspend my disbelief so far.

by Anonymousreply 123March 11, 2023 9:26 PM

I was kind of hoping they would kill off Chad and Mindy.

by Anonymousreply 124March 11, 2023 10:54 PM

I, for one, really like Chad and Mindy - maybe more than the two leads. I don’t have any strong reasoning to back that up with, but it pains me to hear them slandered.

by Anonymousreply 125March 11, 2023 10:58 PM

How did Dermot Mulroney fake his daughter’s death? Wouldn’t a coroner and the morgue be involved?

by Anonymousreply 126March 12, 2023 1:47 AM

I like Scream 2 only slightly better. Laurie Metcalf is always brilliant. I love how the surprises still shock after you haven’t seen it in a while. And Jada’s opening scene shows what a natural she truly is. She has great screen presence and sinks into the role.

But the first is a classic and set the standard. Scream made me fall in love with filmmaking.

by Anonymousreply 127March 12, 2023 1:52 AM

Thank god Courtney barely has a role in this.

by Anonymousreply 128March 12, 2023 3:42 AM

It was much better than 5, but it was still kind of lacking. The opening sequence was great. Melissa's acting improved. The conspiracy plot point was done well. Neve wasn't missed.

The rest was... meh. The twist was fine, but it was easy to predict that Ethan was part of it. Both Mindy and Chad should have died from their injuries. Mindy is an insufferable character with her explanation about the rules.

Speaking of which, this franchise's hook about being meta really doesn't work in 2023, because everything is meta and self-aware now. But that won't stop a Scream 7.

by Anonymousreply 129March 12, 2023 3:48 AM

I wonder how much money they'll throw at Neve for Scream VII.

by Anonymousreply 130March 12, 2023 3:56 AM

It was ok... Mason is hot... what's his story?

by Anonymousreply 131March 12, 2023 4:04 AM

He's still a nepo baby.

by Anonymousreply 132March 12, 2023 4:10 AM

Mason is hot but his character adds nothing

And he got stabbed an insane amount of times. He should be dead.

by Anonymousreply 133March 12, 2023 8:24 AM

r133

so did his sister yet she was running around at the end... actually so did Wednesday yet she was acting like nothing happened

by Anonymousreply 134March 12, 2023 3:17 PM

The reveal scene would have worked if they had cast a better actor as Bailey. Dermot is a serviceable actor but that's it. To pull off camp, you need to have a good sense of timing and be able to know when to turn it up to eleven, dip back down so it isn't just non-stop screaming, and then turn it up again. Laurie Metcalf has that precision, which is why the ending of Scream 2 worked even though up until that point, Debbie was a peripheral character. They should have cast a Broadway actor who does some TV; maybe Brian D'Arcy James.

Mindy should died. Have her and Gale survive their attacks back to back really brought down the tension, and I choose Gale surviving over her any day. That said, I don't think Courtney looked any less awful in this one compared to 5, just less bloated in the face. Kirby's work was more distracting though; her face from under her eyes to her top lip is completely frozen.

But over all I really liked it, much more than 5. The beginning kills, the bodega, Gale's apartment, and the subway scene were the stand outs.

by Anonymousreply 135March 12, 2023 3:24 PM

That was Hayden Pannietiere? I thought it was Kim Petras. Chad surviving is even worse than Dewey surviving in Scream 2.

by Anonymousreply 136March 12, 2023 5:32 PM

No love for hot daddy Henry Czerny? I was hoping Madeline Stowe was going to be at the door to deliver an icy lecture.

by Anonymousreply 137March 12, 2023 5:37 PM

The killer reveals went from jaw-dropping to "oh, it's them" since Scream 3.

by Anonymousreply 138March 12, 2023 5:43 PM

R127 = Jada Smith

by Anonymousreply 139March 12, 2023 5:52 PM

[quote] And Jada’s opening scene shows what a natural she truly is.

DO NOT mock my woman Jada or you will get a slap!

by Anonymousreply 140March 12, 2023 6:10 PM

R87, Courteney Cox had the best scene and the most suspenseful/exciting scene.

The rest of the movie wasn’t very suspenseful. It had a few scenes that were genuinely exciting.

by Anonymousreply 141March 12, 2023 7:36 PM

Courteney Cox looks like Caitlyn Jenner now.

Her face looks odd, like her skin has been stretched across like a mask.

by Anonymousreply 142March 12, 2023 7:46 PM

Question that has been bothering me:

Why does Ethan help save Mindy after she is stabbed on the subway?

by Anonymousreply 143March 12, 2023 8:47 PM

R143, the same reason Farrah Fawcett rushed her kids to the emergency room after shooting them.

by Anonymousreply 144March 12, 2023 9:34 PM

I think he needed her to be his alibi. She could vouch that he wasn’t the Ghostface who stabbed her.

But really, how could he count on her surviving?

I guess all the legacy characters ended up stabbed and survived. Maybe not Samantha? There was a lot of stabbing in this one. Even barely featured actors with a couple of lines ended up stabbed.

by Anonymousreply 145March 12, 2023 10:00 PM

R145, Diane Downs wasn’t counting on her kids surviving after she shot them and she still rushed them to the hospital.

by Anonymousreply 146March 12, 2023 11:06 PM

[quote]No love for hot daddy Henry Czerny?

He had like 20 seconds of screen time. Wasted! I was hoping he'd be Ghost Face but alas... As R135 said, you have to have an actor who understands camp. Henry could have done that role better than Dermot.

by Anonymousreply 147March 12, 2023 11:11 PM

Mason Gooding is sizzling

by Anonymousreply 148March 12, 2023 11:12 PM

Sure the acting is nothing to write home about it's a Scream film after all so I wasn't bothered by that. I was disappointed that it ended up being Dermot. From the moment he was announced, everybody said he was going to be the killer so they really should've went with somebody else.

by Anonymousreply 149March 13, 2023 12:45 AM

The consensus is right: the kills brutal, the chase sequences thrilling, and the opening brilliant. On the other hand, you could see the killers and motives coming from a mile away. Also, I just can't warm up to the "core four." They're all so annoying and unlikable.

by Anonymousreply 150March 13, 2023 12:56 AM

Why do people think it’s okay to enjoy explicit depictions of “brutal killings” of humans? People who enjoy that are disturbing

by Anonymousreply 151March 13, 2023 4:42 AM

I always love trying to figure out who did what and who killed who after each Scream movie. I think it was mostly Dermot. Quinn killed Gale’s boyfriend and attacked Mindy. The only one I’m not sure about is who killed Anika.

by Anonymousreply 152March 13, 2023 8:27 AM

Dermot. He talked about applying Quinn's makeup and the son was at the study group giving him an alibi.

by Anonymousreply 153March 13, 2023 1:08 PM

R109, I believe they shot some of it in Canada actually

by Anonymousreply 154March 13, 2023 3:21 PM

It made me mad in the first Scream that Stu has such a thin motive that I never watched the other ones.

by Anonymousreply 155March 13, 2023 3:36 PM

How the hell did that girl who got gutted on the subway just the night before get released from the hospital so she could show up after the killers were dispatched?

by Anonymousreply 156March 13, 2023 3:38 PM

I loved the kills but hated the characters you were positive were going to die didn't. There were Fucking 4 of them!

Mindy - pretty much gutted in the subway.

Chad - 2 GFs were repeatedly stabbing him and he lived

Kirby - got shot and bled like a stuck pig but she's okay

Gale - amazing chase sequence but the EMTs save her. I guess it's kind of the pass because she's the only OG character.

And the fat ginger is 'murdered' but lives

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by Anonymousreply 157March 13, 2023 5:49 PM

It was Montreal standing in for NYC

by Anonymousreply 158March 13, 2023 6:09 PM

They sprinkled in a few moments of wokeness like Gale's black boyfriend, Mindy and Anika's relationship, the core four being all minorities but without shoving it in your face.

by Anonymousreply 159March 13, 2023 7:41 PM

R159 Enough with seeing “wokeness” everywhere. JFC you’ve fallen for the FAUX conservative outrage BS. Once they point something out, even if it is wrong, that’s all you see and you fell for it.

by Anonymousreply 160March 13, 2023 8:50 PM

Aging is a fucking bitch.

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by Anonymousreply 161March 13, 2023 8:54 PM

R122 you wouldn't hit that?

Or he over the hill, Bryan S

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by Anonymousreply 162March 13, 2023 8:58 PM

R159 sorry notwhites, nonstraights exist

by Anonymousreply 163March 13, 2023 9:04 PM

R151: For Christ's sake it's only a fucking fictional movie.

by Anonymousreply 164March 13, 2023 10:24 PM

Did anyone else find this installment rather boring? I realized I was about half way into the movie and not much had actually happened. The ending is way too overwrought.

That said, I will still give 4, 5, and 6 some kudos for making up for the absolute mess that was Scream 3.

by Anonymousreply 165March 14, 2023 12:24 AM

I liked it, but no one important died. Scream 2 had Randy, Scream 3 had Cotton. Someone who MATTERED needed to die.

by Anonymousreply 166March 14, 2023 12:28 AM

I'll have to re-watch it, but there were some moments where it seemed like they were throwing some shade at Neve for turning this one down.

Some people speculated she was asking for too much $$$, but that seems a bit odd considering they just met her demands for Scream 5. I can't imagine that much has changed within a year.

by Anonymousreply 167March 14, 2023 12:47 AM

Come on 3 wasn't that bad. It poked fun at the casting couch/1970s Hollywood and the Roman reveal was a nice surprise. Yes the others were superior films but at least 3 was better than 5.

by Anonymousreply 168March 14, 2023 2:57 AM

All of the Wes Craven SCREAMs are leagues better than the new offerings in every way. No one ever complained about the acting in Wes's films.

by Anonymousreply 169March 14, 2023 3:54 AM

[Quote] It poked fun at the casting couch/1970s Hollywood

I would love to know what Harvey Weinstein thought of that subplot.

by Anonymousreply 170March 14, 2023 4:55 AM

R165, yeah it seemed to be paying homage to Scream 2 in having an utterly dead stretch in the middle of the movie.

You can’t say this on any other forum, but that Quinn girl was too dumpy and out of shape to run up a flight of stairs, let alone participate in a massacre.

by Anonymousreply 171March 14, 2023 9:05 AM

R170 from what I've heard, it didnt even ring a bell with him

by Anonymousreply 172March 14, 2023 9:12 AM

R172 what else have you heard? 👀

by Anonymousreply 173March 14, 2023 10:01 AM

Scream 1 dragged a bit in the middle as well. Moreso than 2, imo.

by Anonymousreply 174March 14, 2023 10:59 AM

R171 that's why I love Scream 3 more than 2

It doesn't drag, it's campy fun plus PARKER POSEY

by Anonymousreply 175March 14, 2023 1:00 PM

Some thoughts after watching it for a second time =

I guess Harvey's bro was the one listed in the end credits.

Ethan being able to make a yell for another kill round (after being "knife twisted" in the throat) made me LOL the second time I viewed it.

Sam stabbing cop dad so many times with little to none blood splatter was so unrealistic.

Film girl getting out of the hospital (after being stabbed in the stomach) to go see anyone is so unbelievable.

Little troll sis can run up to a multiple stabbed victim, take off his oxygen (so considerate) in order to plant a selfish kiss was also unbelievable. The fact that he can talk & didn't have more blood on him clothes/body was also unbelievable.

No major character died in this other than film girl's galpal who we just met & really didn't care for much as a character. Everyone knew she wouldn't make it across that ladder as the final person to go across. She was bleeding out so much on the bed but as she went across the ladder not even a drop LOL! So unbelievable.

by Anonymousreply 176March 15, 2023 9:19 AM

Also Gayle shows no outrage/concern for her token black boyfriend who was just killed seconds ago & was making jokes was just poor character development. She should've had Dewey flashbacks in some manner at the time. Also if Quinn was the one to kill him how did she throw his bigger muscled body thru that wooden thing so easily not to mention overpower him in that struggle behind Gayle so easily/quickly?).

I call bs on so many things in this film. No one knows cop dad 's son was a famous killer before he was hired onto the force? Not Gayle or any other reporter in the crowd? Not Kirby, Sam, Film girl or Little troll sis? The minorities getting offed by whites (other than last film's Asian girl - the first minority Ghostface ) is so unbelievable. So out of 12 Ghostface killers only 1 non-white killer & 4 female killers. Yeah that's believable. This franchise needs a reboot more than it needs tired old Sydney or painful to look at Gayle in the driver's seat again.

I like Kirby but I struggle to believe her character as a FBI agent. She needs to eat something & the film never reveals if she really was a FBI agent or was taken off for her Ghostface issues as it was implied. Lots of problems with this film compared to the other ones that came before it.

I prefer the first 4 films over the last 2 based on the scripts. I hope the Core Four gets taken down to one in the next film (Sam being the last one alive) & maybe she or Gayle sees Dewey like we have to put up with the Billy visions. This one was too afraid to pull the trigger on killing any major character. No guts & no glory for it.

by Anonymousreply 177March 15, 2023 9:37 AM

The directors said they felt guilty about killing Dewey and thus didn't want to kill any legacy or new character in this latest installment. I highly suggest that they kill one of Sam, Tara, Mindy, or Chad in Scream Seven. They're all so charisma free and this Core Four being all minorities just screams (pardon the pun) stunt casting.

by Anonymousreply 178March 15, 2023 11:37 AM

It's so weird to me there are people commenting in this thread wanting to know what happens BEFORE they go and see it. Why spoil it for yourselves?

I loved it, thought it was a big improvement over 5.

by Anonymousreply 179March 15, 2023 12:04 PM

Regarding the lack of concern for Gale's bf R177 - she was fighting for her life and trying to work out where the killer was, do you expect her to break down in tears and leave herself open to attack?

I agree that you have to have a slight suspension of belief when it comes to how the killers manage to do everything and they often get a beating themselves and then later show up without any visible effects, but I'm not looking for super realism here so it doesn't really take me out of it.

I thought it was pretty damn obvious that the cop just made up that story about Kirby being kicked out of the FBI. Oh and it did show her eating something!

I do agree that there needs to be Core 4 offed assuming 7 will feature them again.

by Anonymousreply 180March 15, 2023 12:09 PM

I'm glad they read the bad Scream 5 reviews but there are still a few things they need to work on for 7. These new directors give away too much in the trailers and make their killers so obvious.

by Anonymousreply 181March 15, 2023 12:42 PM

They were definitely throwing some shade at Neve for being a greedy bitch with that Gale phone call scene.

by Anonymousreply 182March 15, 2023 1:06 PM

Chad surviving his brutal stabbing in the last Scream was unrealistic. I actually laughed when they wheeled him out alive and conscious at the end of this one. But hey he’s guaranteed eye candy to get me back for the next one.

by Anonymousreply 183March 15, 2023 1:19 PM

Neve completely phoned it in for 5. Believe me she wasn't missed.

by Anonymousreply 184March 15, 2023 2:45 PM

She'll be back. Bugs Bunny veneers aren't cheap.

by Anonymousreply 185March 15, 2023 2:56 PM

[quote]I agree that you have to have a slight suspension of belief when it comes to how the killers manage to do everything and they often get a beating themselves and then later show up without any visible effects, but I'm not looking for super realism here so it doesn't really take me out of it.

Hasn't always been that way. After Mickey crashed the cop car at the end of Scream 2, when he revealed himself as a GF, he had a huge bruise on his face. This was Wes Craven's attention to detail that the new filmmakers simply don't have. Maybe the Core Four have supernatural abilities and that's why injuries don't affect them? If you told me that Scream 6 didn't really happen and was Sidney Prescott's fever dream, I'd probably buy it.

by Anonymousreply 186March 15, 2023 3:30 PM

R180 Gayle was like ho hum & even made a joke shortly after her boyfriend's body was tossed on the floor.

She was basically over him before his corpse hit her luxury flooring. Maybe Cox just can't cry on cue during phone calls LOL.

Also she left herself open to attack by leaving her locked closet where she stored her gun (which is how she ended up in the hospital clinging to life). Did you not see this film or pay close attention?

by Anonymousreply 187March 15, 2023 9:47 PM

Some people are saying this is the best Scream since the first one. I don't know about that but it has the best opening scene since the first one.

by Anonymousreply 188March 16, 2023 1:10 AM

The people behind this new trilogy are very mid. Like low iq.

by Anonymousreply 189March 16, 2023 1:24 AM

R189: They're very derivative of the Wes Craven films and they put in way too many obvious clues as to the killers' identities.

by Anonymousreply 190March 16, 2023 1:35 AM

Gale looked just fine in this. She finally got a really good scene.

Scream needs to take it down a notch with the over the top antics. It doesn’t need them.

Gale doesn’t need to die. She interesting when they write her correctly.

I’m sick of the racist screeching about the Four Core being all minorities and the killers being white. Like, STFU. We’re all sick of the racism. Whites have had it all for centuries and minorities are being written in more, sometimes clumsily, and your world is falling apart. JFC get a grip!

by Anonymousreply 191March 16, 2023 1:51 AM

If they're going to kill one of the core four in seven, please for the love of God let it be Mindy. Her monologues are annoying. Keep Sam and Tara for the overall story and Chad for the eye candy.

by Anonymousreply 192March 16, 2023 2:22 AM

R188, get yo honky ass out my thread.

by Anonymousreply 193March 16, 2023 2:57 AM

[Quote] I don't know about that but it has the best opening scene since the first one.

They're never going to top Drew's opening scene. But I like all of the others except i prefer the alternate cut of Scream 4. I think it was changed because there's no Ghostface call.

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by Anonymousreply 194March 16, 2023 3:40 AM

Opening scenes ranking: 1, 2, 6, 5, 4, 3.

by Anonymousreply 195March 16, 2023 9:27 AM

While the Radio Silence films provide a humorous commentary on the state of Hollywood today, they feel like essentially loose remakes and the new characters aren't particularly memorable or charming.

by Anonymousreply 196March 16, 2023 7:48 PM

Scream and Scream 2 aired on tv this past weekend. I was falling asleep toward the end of Scream 2 so I didn’t see the hole thing but did Dewey not find out that his sister was gruesomely murdered? He doesn’t seem to mention it or be affected by it in either film.

by Anonymousreply 197March 16, 2023 11:07 PM

-whole thing. Sorry. Too many holes.

by Anonymousreply 198March 16, 2023 11:12 PM

[quote]I didn’t see the hole thing but did Dewey not find out that his sister was gruesomely murdered? He doesn’t seem to mention it or be affected by it in either film.

You have to wait all the way to Part 5 to see he keeps her ashes on his mantle.

That's all the Tatum you get in this series aside from her clothes on display in the Ghostface shrine in the latest one.

by Anonymousreply 199March 17, 2023 2:06 AM

Whatever happened to poor Mrs. Riley, Dewey and Tatum's mother? The dad was nowhere, and she lost both of her kids to GF. SAD!

by Anonymousreply 200March 17, 2023 2:40 AM

What do we think of the twink from Avatar?

by Anonymousreply 201March 17, 2023 5:22 AM

R197 I think Dewey does mention her to Randy in Scream 2. And there was a deleted scene in Scream 4 that replicates Tatum's death.

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by Anonymousreply 202March 17, 2023 6:20 AM

Scream 2 was over a year after Scream 1. He clearly grimaces when Gale mentions her death in Scream 2. I dont think he needs to mention her constantly throughout the films.

by Anonymousreply 203March 17, 2023 1:43 PM

I wish they hadn’t killed Randy off so soon in Scream 2. He would’ve made a good Scruffy substitute in a Scooby Doo sort of way. He could help solve crimes.

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by Anonymousreply 204March 17, 2023 6:16 PM

I like how they tacked on Randy having a sister in Scream 3 just to hand Sidney and Gale a tape 😄

by Anonymousreply 205March 18, 2023 4:14 AM

Randy's sister has a cameo in 5.

by Anonymousreply 206March 18, 2023 4:35 AM

Scream series jumped the shark when Dora the Explorer didn’t die in opening of 5. Now no one dies even if they’ve been stabbed a hundred times. Trash.

by Anonymousreply 207March 18, 2023 4:38 AM

Why did Hayden Panatierre decide to talk like Annie Potts in this movie?

by Anonymousreply 208March 19, 2023 1:10 AM

Was Mason Gooding in a car accident at some point? He has some scars on his face?

by Anonymousreply 209March 19, 2023 1:25 AM

He was bit by his dog when he was a toddler.

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by Anonymousreply 210March 19, 2023 2:23 AM

The Bailey family is no Mrs. Loomis.

by Anonymousreply 211March 19, 2023 3:51 AM

I watched Scream last night and i didn't really enjoy it. But maybe i'm just getting old? I thought the opening scene with Jenna was decent, but the rest?

- Everyone just came off as an asshole, like the twins didn't seem phased at all by the situation and neither did their mother.

- Why would Sam be seeing Billy exactly as he was in the final act?

- What was the point of Liv, Kyle Gallner's character or Wes (aside from mentioning his name a bunch of times)?

- Dewey's death was brutal but also stupid as was the whole abandoned hospital sequence and only leaving Tara with one police officer to protect her.

- Seeing Sidney and Gale in Stu's kitchen again just seemed completely ridiculous. The killers motive didn't really work for me either and i feel like Amber's actress was trying way too hard. I'm supposed to believe that bitch took Dewey out?

by Anonymousreply 212March 19, 2023 8:48 AM

All valid points R212.

by Anonymousreply 213March 19, 2023 4:59 PM

Major suspension of disbelief is required for all of the murders committed by the female GFs. We are supposed to believe that 90lb Jill Roberts really tossed a body off the roof of a parking garage.

by Anonymousreply 214March 19, 2023 5:15 PM

Jill was the most psychotic and Amber had the best reveal but Mrs. Loomis was my favorite GF.

by Anonymousreply 215March 19, 2023 5:17 PM

Amber really DID have the best reveal. She (and Richie) also had one of the worst motives.

by Anonymousreply 216March 19, 2023 5:20 PM

Hayden Panettiere has excessive filler and Botox, seems like she’s on Xanax, slurs and can barely emote. Horrible actress.

by Anonymousreply 217March 19, 2023 5:22 PM

Will the entire Blaxican cast return for Scream 7?

by Anonymousreply 218March 19, 2023 5:22 PM

Yes, and they will still be attending MoreBlack University.

by Anonymousreply 219March 19, 2023 7:01 PM

I lol’d when I saw “Blackmore University”

by Anonymousreply 220March 19, 2023 7:02 PM

[quote]Hayden Panettiere has excessive filler and Botox, seems like she’s on Xanax, slurs and can barely emote. Horrible actress.

It's really sad. She was one of the best parts of Scream 4 but she's been through so much since then, she's a shell of her former self.

by Anonymousreply 221March 19, 2023 7:26 PM

R221 what has she been through?

by Anonymousreply 222March 19, 2023 7:48 PM

I suspected Amber but never thought she would reveal herself by randomly killing Liv out in the open. Her reveal was definitely the best but her motive was the worst and made no sense at all. I still think 6 has some problems but I’ll take the old revenge motive over the reboot/requel motive.

by Anonymousreply 223March 19, 2023 8:57 PM

[quote] what has she been through?

Yellowstone Park, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 224March 19, 2023 9:03 PM

One of the nice things about the new film is that it gives a shout out to all past killers and not just Billy and Stu. People associate Billy and Stu with Ghostface but I think Jill was arguably the most ruthless killer. She killed her mother, boyfriend, and friends for fame. Scream 4 had a contemporary relevance with 2011 being the height of social media.

by Anonymousreply 225March 20, 2023 2:09 AM

Scream 3 is still the most fun Scream movie to watch and Roman the best Ghostface

Also rumors are that Jennifer Jolie will be back in Scream 7, she didn't die after all

The new film has a nod to her too

by Anonymousreply 226March 20, 2023 4:43 AM

[quote]One of the nice things about the new film is that it gives a shout out to all past killers and not just Billy and Stu. People associate Billy and Stu with Ghostface but I think Jill was arguably the most ruthless killer. She killed her mother, boyfriend, and friends for fame. Scream 4 had a contemporary relevance with 2011 being the height of social media.

Jill was awesome, and I wish they would have let her live. She would've been a huge star from death row, all those incels fighting to do things for her.

by Anonymousreply 227March 20, 2023 4:46 AM

R226 I just watched S3 again & I like it better than I remembered.

I forgot that the Mark in this one survived & is Sydney's baby daddy.

The black guy's fate in this one (was also presumed by some to be still among the living even thought he bled out so much) but I hope he's not brought back as he is a Elon Musk fan, against woke left politics & comes across as a fundie ala the Sister Sister gals that he co-starred with. He also is a big fan of P. Rashad who tirelessly defended creep Bill Cosby.

by Anonymousreply 228March 20, 2023 5:16 AM

I think we can all agree Richie was the worst Ghostface. He made Amber do all the dirty work, his motive was lame, and nepo baby Jack Quaid was really not that menacing or attractive for that matter.

by Anonymousreply 229March 20, 2023 5:28 AM

Top: Scream 1 and Scream 4. Memorable deaths, funny moments, strong villains. Story keeps moving.

Middle: Scream 2, Scream, 3, Scream 6. Strong deaths, funny moments, but some weak sections remain.

Bottom: Scream 5. Wholly unoriginal, boring rehash, unlikable actors.

by Anonymousreply 230March 20, 2023 5:32 AM

OP is an idiot with shit taste if he thinks 3 with DL Patron Saint Parker Posey was the worst in the series.

by Anonymousreply 231March 20, 2023 5:32 AM

Personal Ranking: 2,1, 3, 6, 4, 5

I love the college setting in 2, felt so late 90s.

by Anonymousreply 232March 20, 2023 5:34 AM

Number 1 will always be the best! Followed by number 2.

4, 5, 6 and 3 have some great highs and lows. Some great characters and set pieces. Some really great opening scenes and some bad ones. The ending reveals can be both amazing and horrible.

Overall a great series where even the less than sequels are better than and more consistent than most horror franchises.

by Anonymousreply 233March 20, 2023 10:08 AM

[Quote] what has she been through?

I take it you missed the street fight Hayden got into with her abusive boyfriend. I was surprised she came back for Scream 6.

by Anonymousreply 234March 20, 2023 11:17 AM

Why does everyone hate on 4? I liked it a lot. 5 wasn't bad either.

I like they're subverting the opening has to have a kill and the main cast have to die. Very clever.

by Anonymousreply 235March 20, 2023 2:14 PM

Scream 5 wasn't a Scream film. It wasn't even a horror film. It was a dreadful comedy.

by Anonymousreply 236March 21, 2023 1:44 AM

The end when Gale smashed the Vodka bottle on the girl GF and kicked her into the flames lighting her up was epic.

by Anonymousreply 237March 21, 2023 1:52 AM

R233 yes even the "worst" Scream is still pretty good, which a lot of franchises cannot say.

And dear cunt at R231, name some great things about that movie that aren't Jennifer Jolie. (crickets) exactly. And Parker herself isn't even a fan of it.

by Anonymousreply 238March 21, 2023 2:02 AM

This was absolutely terrible. Ghostface was more powerful than I have ever seen him - Jason Vorhees level of stabbing and stalking. I don't know why they are trying to salvage all of this shitty. None of them with the sheer force they were stabbed would be able to be up and just walk it off. Gale would have been dead as a door nail. The black girl who got stabbed in the stomach with a huge blade on the subway was bandaged out and spewing witticisms in the final scene. Her brother would be dead. Terrible cast. Courtney Cox was the only thing to getting excited about and she's going too far with all the surgery - it was distracting.

by Anonymousreply 239March 21, 2023 2:37 AM

Her lips reach her ears now.

by Anonymousreply 240March 21, 2023 2:47 AM

She looks better now than she did in 4

by Anonymousreply 241March 21, 2023 2:50 AM

Change the order R233. 3 & 4 are way better than 5 & 6. Anyone who can't see how bad the fifth movie really is, remains part of the problem.

by Anonymousreply 242March 21, 2023 4:00 AM

Scream 1,2,3 are the only ones that count. It's becoming too formulaic, but I'm glad a new audience gets to enjoy it. Nothing will ever be as clever without Wes Craven.

by Anonymousreply 243March 21, 2023 4:01 AM

I liked 4, I thought Jill's motive was good/solid. It's all about the motive for me. If it's something lame like "the Stab movies suck now, and we're trying to revive them!1," I lose interest. My only problem with 4 is the Culkin kid. He looks like a villain plus he's puny. I could kick his ass and I'm nothing special.

Billy, Mrs. Loomis, Roman, Jill, and the Baileys had the best motives. Amber and Richie had the worst. Stu, Mickey, the Culkin kid, and the two random GFs from 6 were meh.

by Anonymousreply 244March 21, 2023 4:07 AM

I thought Courteney looked good. She looked older in 5. She had some good shots of her in 4. She looks more natural and prettier.

The Scream series is, by far, the most consistently good horror franchise. They stay very faithful to the formula without going to space, or being a zombie supernatural killer. The excessive stabs and surviving them is a Scream staple. It’s kinda of their thing. Dewey was the obvious example. EVERY movie has seen multiple people, Sydney and Gale, stabbed or shot multiple times and walk around. At the end of 5, Sydney and Gale, shot and stabbed, aren’t even rushed to the hospital! They’re sitting in the ambulance chatting away. That would NEVER happen, but it’s a part of Scream.

by Anonymousreply 245March 21, 2023 4:13 AM

Dermot Mulroney was no Laurie Metcalf that's for sure.

by Anonymousreply 246March 21, 2023 4:21 AM

Debbie Salt/Mrs. Loomis was the greatest villain in the series. Laurie Metcalf is brilliant.

by Anonymousreply 247March 21, 2023 4:27 AM

[Quote] And Parker herself isn't even a fan of it.

That's a shame.

[Quote] I liked 4, I thought Jill's motive was good/solid. It's all about the motive for me.

Her monologue at the end wasn't very good. But Jill was definitely the most fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 248March 21, 2023 6:25 AM

I think the kills are brutal but boring. Where are the kills like Rose McGowan getting her tits stuck in the garage door? The whole cast practically lived. The only kills were throwaway characters.

by Anonymousreply 249March 21, 2023 6:30 AM

[Quote] The only kills were throwaway characters.

That's one of the problems. Olivia's death in Scream 4 was brutal but the character wasn't exactly memorable. And Anthony Anderson's was just silly.

by Anonymousreply 250March 21, 2023 6:44 AM

R250 is an idiot. R249 is clearly talking about Scream 6 in which far too many new main cast members survived. Stop hating on Scream 4. It's hilarious, bloody and never becomes boring. The franchise needs to lean into more female killers. Mrs. Loomis & Jill are still the funniest, craziest, most memorable killers. They embrace the camp. The straight guys just come off as crazy rapist incels. Not as fun.

by Anonymousreply 251March 21, 2023 6:51 AM

R214 Jill didn't kill the publicist in the garage, Charlie did. He's a guy. Men are stronger than women and he could've easily tossed her off the roof. Jill killed Charlie once she no longer had need of his services. That's another thing Scream 5 & 6 didn't do: have the killers turn on each other like they did in 1, 2, and 4.

by Anonymousreply 252March 21, 2023 7:01 AM

R251. Thank you for helping make one of my points. The "white guy killers" aren't very convincing in their acting/selling the roles/motivations. Maybe if the first 2 guys were revealed to be lovers that would've helped them out in that area.

by Anonymousreply 253March 21, 2023 7:04 AM

[quote] The whole cast practically lived.

What's the problem with that?

by Anonymousreply 254March 21, 2023 7:33 AM

R251 grow the fuck up. Scream 6 was not the only one that had throwaway characters get killed. I don't have to share the same opinion as you on Jill or Scream 4. Get over yourself.

by Anonymousreply 255March 21, 2023 7:57 AM

Kirby needed to eat something? I thought she looked fat... and they couldn't hem her jacket sleeves so they're not covering her hands? Plus she had a country accent somehow

by Anonymousreply 256March 21, 2023 8:04 AM

None of the deaths in 6 were important characters, even if the kills were fun (the opening, the ladder, etc)

by Anonymousreply 257March 21, 2023 9:32 AM

Who cares if they weren’t important. I loved how subversive it was to NOT kill any of the main characters. It was shocking and I loved it!

The one who wants a lot of the characters killed is a racist who rants about “white killers” and “the minorities who lived.” Fuck off Klan POS.

by Anonymousreply 258March 21, 2023 11:49 AM

R258 calm your tits hun. When you have scenes like the subway and Chad getting gutted with at least 10 stab wounds and they’re just like…eh we’re fine, it undermines the scenes.

Unlike a lot of DL, I like Mindy but Chad is basically pointless but pretty.

by Anonymousreply 259March 21, 2023 12:30 PM

I'd rank them: 1 > 2 > 3 = 4 > 5 = 6

They messed up Scream 3, but Sarah Darling had a great scene; Jennifer Jolie was a wonderfully comic character; Angelina Tyler had a fun moment; I liked the jealous sibling twist, as well as the Maureen Roberts backstory. It had Carrie Fisher as well.

Scream 4 was imperfect as well, but Emma Roberts' monologue at the end was one of the best scenes in the franchise. Kirby was a great new addition.

I just don't think Scream 5 and 6 are going to age well. Jenny Ortega is the only good thing about them. Otherwise, I hate the "Core Four."

by Anonymousreply 260March 21, 2023 12:35 PM

I know Brian Tyler is their guy and he’s fine, but his music doesn’t touch Marco Beltrami. Should’ve kept him on.

by Anonymousreply 261March 21, 2023 12:43 PM

Jill Roberts beating herself up was pretty awesome. They should have ended the movie there -- the hospital scene was trash.

by Anonymousreply 262March 21, 2023 2:58 PM

Dermot and Henry Czerny should’ve switched roles. I think Henry would’ve been a much better papa Ghostface.

And whoever created/approved the main poster should be blacklisted. What a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 263March 21, 2023 3:49 PM

I know Billy is like the Beyonce of Scream but Jill really is an underrated Ghostface. The other killers just wanted to kill Sidney. Yes Jill wanted to kill Sidney too but she did it for fame and the way she beat herself up to look like a victim/hero - a true psycho. Also, Jill did kill the publicist (Allison Brie). Charlie was talking with Trevor and Gale when she threw her body off the roof. She killed the publicist because the publicist wanted Sidney to leave Woodsboro.

by Anonymousreply 264March 21, 2023 8:33 PM

Roman was the cutest and by far the smartest Ghostface - worked alone, bulletproof vest, tricked his victims, multiple voice changer, waited patiently for years to attack Sidney. He is the real GF. Part of me also feels bad for him - abandoned by his own mother.

by Anonymousreply 265March 24, 2023 4:16 AM

Some of the men that raped Maureen must have been goodlooking and non Harvey-looking.

by Anonymousreply 266March 24, 2023 4:39 PM

R264 I hated Emma Roberts’ shrill voice, such an annoying bitch.

by Anonymousreply 267March 26, 2023 10:05 AM

Nothing is better than the first one. Billy Loomis and Stu. I can get over the suspension of disbelief that Emma Roberts who weighs 90 lbs soaking wet or Laurie Metcalf who doesn't weigh much more would be able to commit the murders.

Ala Scream, I had a friend who was convinced those Sorority murders in Idaho were committed by a woman, a close friend, and I was like there is no way. I was correct.

by Anonymousreply 268March 26, 2023 6:40 PM

R268: Or Amber who weighs about the same gutting Dewey and Quinn killing the boyfriend while on the phone with Gale.

by Anonymousreply 269March 26, 2023 9:10 PM

The ending sucked! The killers felt like caricatures. I hated the amazing “kills” being reversed so unrealistically. One okay but all of them just shows an inability to go there…I count five. The best part was the switch up when we revealed ghostface in the opening only to go and reverse that too. Was okay without Sidney but she should be brought back for the next or last.

by Anonymousreply 270March 26, 2023 10:04 PM

Ranking the series for me - 1 and 2…4,6, and tie for last 3&5. Both had some good stuff.

by Anonymousreply 271March 26, 2023 10:06 PM

R270 they’ll probably have to park a truckload of money at Neve’s house to bring her back and they’ll kill her character off

by Anonymousreply 272March 26, 2023 10:06 PM

The next one should be the last. Bring it back to Woodsboro, reveal Stu to be alive, kill Gale and Sydney, cue the song that's been in every Scream movie since the first and be done with it.

by Anonymousreply 273March 26, 2023 10:09 PM

Stu is dead and any reversal of that would be so fucking stupid.

by Anonymousreply 274March 26, 2023 10:17 PM

If Mason can be stabbed 15 times and his sister can crack jokes after being filted, Stu can still be alive. He was supposed to be in Scream 3.

by Anonymousreply 275March 27, 2023 4:25 AM

Radio Silence has some interesting ideas, but they're just not talented enough to really pull them off. They also like to be subversive in a bad way.

by Anonymousreply 276March 27, 2023 4:01 PM

R275 Chad being alive is stupid. Stu was mentioned as being dead in 6.

Billy and Stu have been mentioned MANY times since 96. For him to be alive and no one having said anything….STUPID.

by Anonymousreply 277March 27, 2023 4:20 PM

The series will go on forever like Fast and the Furious but they need to stop with the this is the most brutal and ruthless Ghostface platitudes. 6 wasn't any more gorier than 5.

by Anonymousreply 278March 27, 2023 8:28 PM

[quote]Quinn killing the boyfriend while on the phone with Gale.

Yeah, that skinny little college girl overpowering Gale's BBC boyfriend was laughable.

A lot of Jill's victims were sitting down when she attacked them (Anthony Anderson's cop, maybe Adam Brody's cop, too? can't recall, her mom).

by Anonymousreply 279March 28, 2023 6:32 AM

Gale is a great character and her arch is not finished by a long shot. Dewey dying makes Gale need to get major revenge on a GF killer.

by Anonymousreply 280March 28, 2023 12:02 PM

Gale's character arches are fallen, r280.

by Anonymousreply 281March 28, 2023 12:23 PM

R281 Exactly which is why she needs more redemption.

by Anonymousreply 282March 28, 2023 12:23 PM

Gale's arch didn't fall. She's a flawed, and interesting, character who is good at heart but has huge ambitions which cause her to fuck things up. They've really written her poorly lately. She is the most interesting legacy character. If they were smart they'd capitalize on that.

by Anonymousreply 283March 28, 2023 1:12 PM

I say bring back the red streaks.

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by Anonymousreply 284March 28, 2023 1:30 PM

Killing Gale off in 7, which they'll do, would be such a waste.

by Anonymousreply 285March 28, 2023 1:44 PM

It pissed me off Gale was saved, after putting up a ferocious fight, by someone else instead of saving herself. Then again Sydney is often saved by others, too.

by Anonymousreply 286March 28, 2023 1:48 PM

Jill is my favorite because I love the idea of this character being set up as a next generation Sidney, but is actually the mastermind and almost gets away with it. Emma Roberts is not the best actress, but she doesn't ruin it. I really wish the original plan for 5 had panned out (minus the whole amnesia thing).

by Anonymousreply 287March 29, 2023 8:18 PM

R287: Jill came the closest to killing Sidney but she was one of the stupidest killers. If she hadn't told Dewey about her and Gale's matching wounds, she would've gotten away with it. Ruthless bitch killed her own mother in order to be the new Sidney. I don't think any of the others would've committed matricide and even Mrs. Loomis and the Bailey Family took on the mantle in order to exact revenge on behalf of their children who were GFs themselves.

by Anonymousreply 288March 29, 2023 8:44 PM

Mrs. Loomis is my favorite - the white outfit, her newspaper reporter persona, how she took out Mickey, how she went from gun to knife, and Laurie Metcalf's superb ability to elevate the campy material.

by Anonymousreply 289March 30, 2023 1:48 AM

Some of the killers were more obvious than others but the Jill reveal was a real shock because she was in nearly every scene.

by Anonymousreply 290March 30, 2023 2:20 AM

What moron approved that shit poster?

by Anonymousreply 291March 30, 2023 2:24 AM

Do not get the love for Jill. It was like watching community theater. Emma Roberts was terrible.

by Anonymousreply 292March 30, 2023 3:58 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 293March 30, 2023 1:46 PM

Gale's camera guy from Scream 2 (Joel, played by Duane Martin) should make a return, even if it's a cameo. There aren't that many major/ minor characters who have survived but then never reappeared.

by Anonymousreply 294March 31, 2023 4:37 AM

Joel had his head on straight. I'm glad he lived.

by Anonymousreply 295March 31, 2023 9:31 AM

[quote]The directors said they felt guilty about killing Dewey and thus didn't want to kill any legacy or new character in this latest installment. I highly suggest that they kill one of Sam, Tara, Mindy, or Chad in Scream Seven. They're all so charisma free and this Core Four being all minorities just screams (pardon the pun) stunt casting.

I think Mindy will die in Scream Seven. I can see being a copycat of Uncle Randy's death in the van from Scream 2.

by Anonymousreply 296April 3, 2023 12:55 AM

The Radio Silence directors basically make feel good Scream movies where everybody makes it out all happy and alive despite being stabbed 50 times. One of the Core Four has to go in the next one and it seems like the knives are out (pun intended) for either Mindy or Tara.

by Anonymousreply 297April 3, 2023 1:07 AM

I could see them copying Halloween Kills and killing off Tara to make Sam go on some kind of revenge quest similar to Laurie Strode after Karen was killed. . I could a GF killer being a relative of Stu Macher wanting some kind of revenge against Billy's love child.

by Anonymousreply 298April 3, 2023 1:11 AM

IMO they've done enough with the Stu Macher line already: Amber lived in his old house, and his nephew was a victim in Scream 5.

by Anonymousreply 299April 3, 2023 1:52 AM

I think Tara's the only one who's guaranteed to be safe, since Ortega's the biggest star (outside the franchise) at this point. Unless she wants out and agrees to be an opening victim.

Any of the others should be up for grabs, and one or more should go.

by Anonymousreply 300April 3, 2023 1:56 AM

Sam's boyfriend will probably be offed in the next movie.

by Anonymousreply 301April 3, 2023 1:57 AM

Do we know if the Radio Silence directors (Matt & Tyler) are on our team?

by Anonymousreply 302April 3, 2023 2:17 PM

The director Tyler is pretty cute.

by Anonymousreply 303April 4, 2023 12:58 AM

[quote] Some of the men that raped Maureen must have been goodlooking and non Harvey-looking.

It's been a few years since I have watched Scream 3. But, did Roman ever indicate killing the other guys involved in the rape before killing Lance Henriksen's character in front of Sidney?

by Anonymousreply 304April 4, 2023 2:51 AM

The friend group should have had at least 2 more members so these reveals aren’t as shocking.

by Anonymousreply 305April 4, 2023 5:50 AM

I thought for sure the Scream director Tyler was going to be gay but according to IG he’s been married to a female screenwriter for ten years. No kids just a dog.

by Anonymousreply 306April 4, 2023 6:58 AM

[Quote] But, did Roman ever indicate killing the other guys involved in the rape before killing Lance Henriksen's character in front of Sidney?

No, just Milton. Roman seems to put the blame squarely on him for what happened to Rina Reynolds.

by Anonymousreply 307April 4, 2023 10:24 AM

Yeah, Roman needed to track down Daddy and go after him and his friends. Instead, he went after his (traumatized) mother. The whole thing is really disturbing, actually. Roman and his White Male Energy really felt entitled to his mother, who he knew had been raped/taken advantage of, and his innocent half-sister's life. Why?

Same goes for Billy Loomis. Why didn't he kill his cheating father? Nancy Loomis also seemed to place the blame on Maureen, while her adulterous ex-husband was allowed to slink into the background.

by Anonymousreply 308April 4, 2023 4:55 PM

I actually felt sorry for Roman. Abandoned and rejected by his own mother.

by Anonymousreply 309April 4, 2023 5:06 PM

Sidney's whore of a mother is the real villain and cause of everything in the series.

by Anonymousreply 310April 4, 2023 5:07 PM

Now that I think about it, there was maybe enough evidence that Milton could have been Roman's father.

by Anonymousreply 311April 4, 2023 5:30 PM

I think 3 basically implied that Milton was Roman's father.

by Anonymousreply 312April 4, 2023 5:38 PM

R311 Maureen was definitely gangraped but as Milton was the ringleader, Roman may have just assumed/decided he was his father. No mention of a DNA test or anything.

by Anonymousreply 313April 4, 2023 5:39 PM

Who's the GF you'd most like to bottom for or suck off?

by Anonymousreply 314April 4, 2023 5:56 PM

Milton seemed to have a closer-than-you'd-expect relationship with Roman. He was mentoring him, hosting his birthday party, etc. Also, Maureen's movie credits were all his, so we know they slept together back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 315April 4, 2023 6:00 PM

R314 none of them. I'd pick Derek (Jerry O'connell).

by Anonymousreply 316April 4, 2023 6:02 PM

R314: Roman!

by Anonymousreply 317April 4, 2023 6:05 PM

They should bring back Tatum.

Just let Rose McGowan go batshit crazy.

"See this what happens when you get crushed in the doggy door! And those ashes Dewey had was from a barbeque!"

How's that for legacy?

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by Anonymousreply 318April 5, 2023 7:28 PM

Finally saw this, my thoughts as an extremely scream nerd

New York scene was done extremely well, they had a fancy restaurant, a back alley, dorm rooms, a brownstone, a luxurious penthouse, a movie theater and subway and a movie theater.

The opening was grest, among top three at least. After 5, they managed previous trauma very well. Scream 5 characters were given some pathos.

More violence, the killings were brutal, lots of knives through the eyes, face, etc, but not sp gory as advirtesd. Scream 4;had the most gruesome death

Much better than 5 except for the ending. This ending was the worse part..

Kudos for the gayle scene.

Finally three points:

. Dermot was easily guessed. He mentioned another son where there was no further reference to it, so it was rshter obvious. Also in the subway scene there were only two other characters outside, he was part of it,

- spre scream 3 agreed completely os the worse one, most of the deaths are too sanitized, lots of characters you are not sire are dead as the murderers are to clean, notably parker posey, the best thing of it, even the opening is sort of meh (the worse opening os the metamscream 4)

- the number of people who survive, considering injuries, is ridiculous.

Overall, except for the last 15 minutes enjoyed it tremendously.

by Anonymousreply 319April 16, 2023 3:33 AM

It's out on Amazon Prime today so I finally watched it. I think it's not without its problems but yes a definite improvement over 5. The chase sequences in particular were thrilling and well choreographed. I'm glad this time no legacy characters died and the motive was simple and relatable. I even liked the Demi Lovato song. As for the ending, I didn't think it was that bad as everyone was saying but yeah Chad surviving after so many stab wounds was ridiculous. I still think they need to get rid of the prolonged Billy appearances and Mindy's monologues but thankfully they kept both of those at a minimum this time around.

by Anonymousreply 320April 25, 2023 8:15 PM

I think Jason will be forgotten quickly but I wonder if he technically counts as a Ghostface since he wore the costume, used the voice modulator, and killed at least one person.

by Anonymousreply 321April 27, 2023 5:17 PM

R321 I think future sequels could tie Jason in somehow by having a friend or relative of his go on Ghostface killing spree to "complete" his mission. I know it would be the same as what Richie's family did, but in horror movie franchises things get recycled.

by Anonymousreply 322April 27, 2023 9:57 PM

This won best movie at the MTV Movie Awards. The first time since the original.

by Anonymousreply 323May 9, 2023 2:54 AM

I enjoyed this a lot more than I expected. Some great set pieces and lots of tension. And, I must admit, I didn't miss Neve as much as I thought I would. In fact, I thought even Gale - aside from the excellent, tension-filled sequence in her hi-rise - wasn't really needed either.

Melissa was much better in this sequel. But it's ridiculous that both Mindy and Chad survived. I like both of them but they were pretty brutalized, especially Chad.

It was nice to see Hayden again but she didn't look off to me. I know Hayden's had to deal with a lot in the past few years, though.

by Anonymousreply 324May 9, 2023 3:00 AM

What a joke. This series is like sloppy latinx fan fiction. All killers will be white of course. The new prejudice agenda.

by Anonymousreply 325May 9, 2023 3:39 AM

R325: The directors are two white guys. Go figure.

by Anonymousreply 326May 9, 2023 3:51 AM

Wow! I thought Scream 5 was bad, but then I watched Scream 6. 💩

by Anonymousreply 327May 9, 2023 4:40 AM

The killers in the first four movies from 1996-2011 were all white, before there even were any Latino characters or anyone was shrieking about "woke," so it hardly seems like any kind of agenda. (I believe Sidney's roommate in 2, who was Black, was supposed to be one of the killers in the original ending before it was leaked and they changed it. The script is online.)

by Anonymousreply 328May 9, 2023 12:14 PM

R328 not talking about the og trilogy bew. Stay on topic.

by Anonymousreply 329May 9, 2023 8:54 PM

Jason was soooooo white :P

by Anonymousreply 330May 9, 2023 8:57 PM

[quote](I believe Sidney's roommate in 2, who was Black, was supposed to be one of the killers in the original ending before it was leaked and they changed it. The script is online.)

Interesting. I'm going to have to read that, I'd like to know what her motive was supposed to be.

by Anonymousreply 331May 9, 2023 9:39 PM

Probably more or less the same motivation as the Olyphant character, r331? Her whole role would have been altered.

by Anonymousreply 332May 9, 2023 10:28 PM

[quote]Probably more or less the same motivation as the Olyphant character, [R331]? Her whole role would have been altered.

Oh, so both were active serial killers off of a messageboard? Like Richie and Amber and that idiotic bullshit that was Scream 5? I'm glad that got axed and Mrs. Loomis was brought in on Scream 2. Debbie Salt was such a fun Ghostface and her motive was of course A+.

by Anonymousreply 333May 9, 2023 10:46 PM

[Quote] (I believe Sidney's roommate in 2, who was Black, was supposed to be one of the killers in the original ending before it was leaked and they changed it. The script is online.)

They still could have stuck with that. Spoilers wouldn't have ruined it for everyone like they can now when something is leaked.

[Quote] Debbie Salt was such a fun Ghostface and her motive was of course A+.

Just good old fashioned revenge.

by Anonymousreply 334May 10, 2023 2:37 AM

It would have been fun if Laurie Metcalfe would have been in part VI as the ghost of Debbie Salt/Nancy Loomis and appeared to Sam and asked to be called "Grandma Ghostface".

by Anonymousreply 335May 10, 2023 5:39 AM

People claiming Melissa Barrera was a better actress in 6 vs 5 are embarrassing. She has the dead eyed charisma free persona of kim Kardashian.

by Anonymousreply 336May 10, 2023 7:21 AM

Debbie Salt/Mrs. Loomis was always the ultimate villain in Scream 2. In the original script, Derek (the boyfriend) and Hallie (the roommate) were the killers who she was working with the same way she did Mickey in the final version. So it would have felt a lot like the ultimate ending of the 2022 Scream. There are a few interviews with Kevin Williamson where he claims this was always a dummy draft, but why would they include the Mrs. Loomis reveal in the dummy draft and let that get out? Seems like that would be a bigger secret to keep.

Here's one of the sites that have it:

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by Anonymousreply 337May 10, 2023 1:38 PM

Another link in case that one's wonky. (It's rough, but some of Mickey's lines remain the same coming from Derek and Hallie.)

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by Anonymousreply 338May 10, 2023 1:41 PM

I'm glad they didn't have Derek be one of the killers. Another psychotic boyfriend would be too much.

by Anonymousreply 339May 10, 2023 3:14 PM

R336: Seriously who she is blowing?

by Anonymousreply 340May 10, 2023 5:20 PM

Even though it hasn't been announced we all know Scream 7 is happening. I'm hoping they listen to these suggestions:

1. Kill one of the Core Four - preferably Mindy or Tara.

2. It's time to move on from the Richie Kirsch storyline. Don't make Richie's mom the killer in the next installment.

3. Don't bring Sidney back. She wasn't missed and Neve will phone it in if brought back.

4. Kirby's voice sounded really weird. Maybe not bring her back next time.

5. Move the story out of NYC. It was so obvious that they were in Canada.

6. Don't put in too many obvious clues as to the killers' identities - Dermot talking about "losing a son"

7. Stop with the Billy hallucinations - they don't work.

by Anonymousreply 341May 21, 2023 4:03 AM
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