“The Little Mermaid” was an Anti-Feminist Tale?

This film looks and sounds awful. Will it be another Pinocchio?

Ah yes, "modern audiences".

[quote] ​“Bright young women sick of swimmin’/​Ready to stand,"

How is this offensive? Is standing ableist?

Isn't this the "feminist" who showed up at the Oscars last year with her sister, both of them dressed like they had just gotten off their shift at the Spearmint Rhino?

Will Ariel start an Onlyfans? That’s modern day feminism

IIRC, the original Hans Christian Andersen story was a morality tale about the dangers of a woman becoming someone she’s not to catch the man of her dreams. The growth of her new legs is agonizing, and the prince rejects her anyhow. Unable to regain her mermaid form, she dies of heartbreak and dissolves into sea foam. The Disney version is a complete reversal of the story’s original message.

Also interesting is how both the Little Mermaid and the Steadfast Tin Soldier, both written by Andersen, have themes of bodily mutilation/dysmorphia… but I digress here.

Bless you, 19-year-old with so much world experience, for what this centuries-old tale means and for telling us all how to feel.

Disney is just preparing its excuses in advances for the film bombing before it even comes out. The backlash stopped them from premiering the the trailer during the Super Bowl. They turned off the comments on YouTube. The trailer has 1 million likes vs 4 million dislikes. The same thing happened with the recent preview. Disney needs to stop with these live action remakes already. They add nothing and are cringe as hell. Sorry, Melissa McCarthy.

[quote]The over-arching message of the original movie didn't exactly reflect the values of modern feminism. Ariel gives up her voice and changes her body for the man of her dreams

Ridiculous. MANY of us here would “give up our voices and change our bodies” for the man of our dreams!

R9- You're evil. Come sit by me.

Fuck the woke remakes in the name of "modern times."

The Disney animated version was nothing like the original. Hans Christian Anderson was gay, no? I thought it was pretty accepted to read the story with that context.

If Disney and Lin-Manuel Miranda want to do a progressive reimagining of a film, which was itself a reinterpretation of a cautionary story about a teenage girl dying of "pick-me" hoeness, I don't see the problem.

But is she trans?

[quote]So [now] it’s more about Ariel finding freedom for herself because of this world that she’s obsessed with. [Prince Eric] is a cherry on top. But it’s not all about him.

So, now, instead of changing herself for a guy, she's changing herself for the entire world she wishes to be a part of so they will accept her. Yes. That's so much better. A far more superior message for young girls today. Especially in the social media era.

Why mess with a good thing?

This new retelling may bring Disney down a peg when people reject it.

They’re already making that ridiculous Snow White film with no dwarves in it.

I always read it as an allegory for a gay relationship at the time. The mermaid has to lose her voice for the sake of her relationship - that's the deal. I love Andersen and I cannot well watch movies like Frozen or the Little Mermaid that dumb down such a beautiful thing.

The original Disney film is a good time, but the messaging has always been icky. But one could say that about most of their movies from Snow White to Cinderella. At least Ariel had a little backbone and drive. Most of the early Disney princesses are the least interesting characters in their own stories who allow horrible things to happen to them, never complain, and wait for someone to rescue them from the bad situations they find themselves in. Not only is the message awful, but it's boring to watch as well.

The original story is a huge downer, but it does have something valuable to say about how it's not wise to change yourself for someone or to fall in love with someone without knowing them. It's a tragic story, but it does have a good message. The sea witch isn't a villain at all in the story, but just someone willing to help the lead character get what she thinks she wants. It's been a long time since I read the story, but I believe she even warns her and tells her to think it through before she gives up her voice. I'd rather see someone adapt the story in a more faithful way, but people would probably complain that it was depressing.

[quote]Hans Christian Anderson was gay, no?

He was allegedly bisexual because he was infatuated with the opera singer Jenny Lind but also expressed romantic and erotic desires for his boyhood friend Edvard Collin. He summed up his feelings for Edvard by expressing, “I languish for you as for a pretty Calabrian wench… my sentiments for you are those of a woman.” Also, Andersen was a homely man whose love was unrequited. Sadly, he suffered a fate similar to that of his one-legged tin soldier and mermaid with species dysphoria by dying a virgin.

So this is going to be an even more fucked up movie than first thought.

[quote]R19 He was allegedly bisexual because he was infatuated with the opera singer Jenny Lind

Gurl, there’s plenty’a queens right here obsessed with opera singers, an’ that doesn’t make ‘em bi.

Why ‘little’? Why ‘maid’

Literal violence.

Why can’t it be a mindless 90 minutes of a girl in love swimming and singing with talking fish? Why does everything have to have a MESSAGE THAT WILL AFFECT THE LIVES OF ALL WHO WATCH THIS FILM?

No one cares, guys. Really.

I wonder which will be worse, this or the Disney+ 'Peter Pan and Wendy'? That film's trailer has Wendy encountering the Lost Boys:

"We're the Lost Boys!"

"But you're not all boys?"

"SO?"

Disney's version is very much an anti-feminist tale. Honest Trailers did a hilarious trailer which poked fun at the anti-feminist messages of the movie.

R23. I find it painfully ironic that the very people who say movies like this have no impact on kids, are usually also the very people who say that kids are so corruptible they need to be kept away from anything that might impact their fragile little minds - like, for example, any suggestion a character might be gay.

Not saying you're doing this R23 but it's something to think about.

[quote]I wonder which will be worse, this or the Disney+ 'Peter Pan and Wendy'?

I suppose people are so exhausted by the endless number of Peter Pan related movies through the years, which include non-Disney movies, that they are giving the bizarre casting of Peter Pan and Wendy a pass for now. I don't envy parents having to explain to small children the drastic and inexplicable change to Tinker Bell's appearance. Maybe say that Tinker Bell's parents had a foster child and she's filling in for the real Tinker Bell in the movie.

[quote]R26 I don't envy parents having to explain to small children the drastic and inexplicable change to Tinker Bell's appearance.

What’s drastic? That she’s not white?

No, she's half-Iranian, one quarter Choctaw and one quarter black ( of course, the media will advertise her as black). But, what the parents will have to explain is how a Harvard student could stoop to being Tinker Bell.

Yes, happily women no longer act like asses and harm themselves over men anymore…

[quote]r28 what the parents will have to explain is how a Harvard student could stoop to being Tinker Bell.

Natalie Portman went to Harvard and she played a psychotic black swan. Matt Damon went there, too, and he played a retard. John Lithgow played trans more than once. Mira Sorvino played a porn star and Stockard Channing played a high school whore half her age.

But playing Tinker Bell is too out there?

The importance of character integrity used to be huge with Disney. The look and actions had to be precise. Even with the diversity mob demands, it’s surprising that Disney so easily threw the concept away.

[quote]…what the parents will have to explain is how a Harvard student could stoop to being Tinker Bell.

Ron DeSantis went to Harvard Law, and he stooped to being Ron De Santis.

[quote] Hans Christian Anderson was gay, no?

Historians seem to think he was so sexually immature that he died a virgin, having had no sex with either men or women.

[quote] He was allegedly bisexual because he was infatuated with the opera singer Jenny Lind

Probably the way a gay boy did Madonna in the 80s. Hans was gay.

[quote] Historians seem to think he was so sexually immature that he died a virgin, having had no sex with either men or women.

Riiiight, like Michael Jackson.

[quote] Riiiight, like Michael Jackson.

Well, there's no evidence he was into men. Or women. Or boys. Or girls. Unlike Michael Jackson, where his behavior screamed "I LIKE TO SUCH THE PENISES OF SMALL BOYS!"

It makes me sad that there such a strong anti love/relationship theme in so many things now. Nothing compares to falling in love and sharing your life with someone.

R37. What? Love and relationships are still huge themes in movies, TV shows and music.

I can't remember the last show I watched that didn't have a love/relationship angle.

I must be slow, because I thought that in the original Disney movie Ariel's obsession with the above-sea world existed long before she saw the Prince. Obviously it was a Disney romance and so he became a big part of it once he was in the picture, but didn't she always long to live where you walked on feet?

R38, the big twist in Frozen was of course that True Love did not come in the form of romance. (This is actually true to Andersen's The Snow Queen, which was about the power of friendship, though the story differs in pretty much every other way.)

[quote] Halle Bailey explains how the live-action remake was updated to be more progressive and reflect modern feminism.

She just assured it will bomb.

Casting her assured it will bomb.

R39 You are correct, Ariel was fascinated by all things above water, she had a secret storage place where she collected objects that fell into the ocean and it’s featured in one of songs from the movie so this is nothing new for Disney writers.

This new version of Ariel looks like a whore. Thick lipstick, false eyelashes, heavy eye makeup...she looks like a hooker.

R39. I think the idea is she longed to live on the land but never would have done anything about it if not for meeting the Prince.

It's not like Ursula was going anywhere. The choice was always there.

Now if she had made that deal and then met the Prince, the relationship would have come off slightly differently.

Of course, I suspect it was done this way so it didn't seem as if she was basically abandoning her family for nothing. I suppose running off to pursue "true love" is seen as a more acceptable and concrete reason than just leaving to pursue a childhood obsession.

lmao.

Honestly, who hasn’t uprooted their entire life in pursuit of cock? Felicity did and no-one complained it was anti-feminist.

Disney is merely a reflection of the wokeness that has permeated the industry. Even the Dungeons and Dragons movie has intentionally emasculated the male characters in favor of the powerful warrior woman. Yawn.

[quote]r42 You are correct, Ariel was fascinated by all things above water, she had a secret storage place where she collected objects that fell into the ocean

Gdamn hoarder!

^^ Aha. That explains her cruise ship passenger bone collection of guests who mysteriously disappeared after being — somehow — lured to the deck in the dead of night.

Enough about this silly cock-starved whore Ariel. How many shirtlessness and/or nude scenes will we get from this version of Prince Eric? Is he hot? THOSE are the deciding factors that will make or break this movie for me.