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Different From the Others (Anders als die Andern) - 1919

Has anyone seen this? It's a German film from 1919 that's considered to be the first film about gay people

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by Anonymousreply 26March 5, 2023 6:33 AM

I was vaguely aware of it, never seen it, unfortunately there's only bits of it left. This is one thing I would actually love to see a remake of. Such a cool house too in the first scene, and a cute couple too

Hope the rest of it turns up someday although it seems unlikely now

by Anonymousreply 1February 24, 2023 8:17 AM

I didn’t realize Jeremy Irons was that old, or even German!

by Anonymousreply 2February 24, 2023 8:25 AM

I've seen it and I've also seen paint dry.

by Anonymousreply 3February 24, 2023 8:29 AM

One shouldn't confuse the tedious "Different From the Others" of 1919) with the equally tedious "Mikaël, Chained: The Story of the Third Sex" from 1924.

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by Anonymousreply 4February 24, 2023 9:45 AM

Conrad Veidt lived an interesting life and was a good man. Probably bi.

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by Anonymousreply 5February 24, 2023 10:24 AM

R4 - I like Mikaël, but then director Carl Theodor Dryer is an acquired taste.

by Anonymousreply 6February 24, 2023 11:02 AM

I guarantee that if Carl Theodor Dryer were alive today he would disown this creaky, primitive, pantomimic, century-old relic of juvenilia.

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by Anonymousreply 7February 24, 2023 11:25 AM

OP wow, thanks for posting this.

by Anonymousreply 8February 24, 2023 12:50 PM

Yes, I saw it several years ago. It stars Conrad Veidt, who played Cesare, the creature in The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari, and the villain, Major Strasser, in Casablanca.

by Anonymousreply 9February 24, 2023 1:12 PM

Fun fact: Reinhold Schunzel (the villainous blackmailer of "Anders") directed Joan Crawford's worst movie at MGM, "Ice Follies of 1939." As well as the first VICTOR UND VICTORIA (33).

We're lucky to have at least 50 minutes of an otherwise "lost" film.

by Anonymousreply 10February 24, 2023 1:35 PM

There is only 1 copy of this film that exists

by Anonymousreply 11February 24, 2023 5:28 PM

Not any more, R11.

It can be pirated by anyone now it has been broadcast on Youtube.

by Anonymousreply 12February 24, 2023 10:07 PM

They look like a couple of lebkuchen sniffers.

by Anonymousreply 13February 24, 2023 10:14 PM

[quote] Conrad Veidt

He escaped Germany and had a decade of well-deserved stardom in England before coming coming to America and dying too soon.

The two best ones were 'Dark Journey' opposite the fabulously-dressed Vivien Leigh.

The better one was 'Contraband' (AKA 'The Spy in Black') which is an extremely efficient clever drama in the Hitchcock style.

It's an extremely well-crafted movie which shows how much movie-making had progressed from the archaic relic in this thread's title.

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by Anonymousreply 14February 24, 2023 10:19 PM

The message of this movie was way ahead of its time. There's another gay-themed German film from that era (made by young William Dieterle, before he moved to Hollywood) called SEX IN CHAINS. Unfortunately that movie is pretty homophobic. I bought the DVD and realized how misleading the cover art is after watching the film: it makes it look like the two men on it are showing affection to each other when in reality it's a still from the movie where some pervy guy is trying to molest his sleeping cellmate in prison.

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by Anonymousreply 15February 24, 2023 10:35 PM

^ Cool, they made a movie about prison sex

by Anonymousreply 16February 24, 2023 11:13 PM

Yes. It was revolutionary.

by Anonymousreply 17February 24, 2023 11:43 PM

I remember those days!

by Anonymousreply 18February 25, 2023 1:03 AM

R5 He wasn't handsome but he appeared in some important films.

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by Anonymousreply 19February 25, 2023 10:16 AM

It wasn't produced by Germany's for profit film industry, rather as a propaganda/educational/argument film, and funded by Berlin's progressive sexuality research institute: Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, 1919 to 1933. Of course this film was amateur hour, its the nature of the genre. 1919 is usually named the first year of German Expressionism and the Kraut were soon making timelessly great movies.

by Anonymousreply 20February 25, 2023 11:25 AM

Dieterle, 20 years later, directed THE ACCUSED. Prim, sexually repressed psychology professor Loretta Young fends off her rape-y student (hot Douglas Dick) by killing him in self-defense. Dieterle shoots the attack in primo German Expressionistic style.

He took on controversial sexual themes in both Berlin and Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 21February 25, 2023 1:56 PM

The Nazis would try to shut down showings of the film

by Anonymousreply 22February 25, 2023 7:13 PM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 23February 26, 2023 1:00 AM

William Dieterle went on to produce this masterpiece.

Which contained a chilling performance from (the anti-gay) Sir Cedric Hardwicke.

It also contained a wonderfully sympathetic portrayal from (gay) Charles Laughton.

And a brilliant score by Alfred Neumann incorporating themes from Hungarian gypsy culture and Dvorak

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by Anonymousreply 24February 26, 2023 5:20 AM

The violinist was really smelling the cookies!

by Anonymousreply 25February 27, 2023 5:57 PM

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by Anonymousreply 26March 5, 2023 6:33 AM
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